Classic Game Room - SEGA 32X review part 1
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Part 1 of 2. Classic Game Room HD reviews the SEGA 32X add-on for the Sega Genesis 16-bit video game console. Also available for the Sega Mega Drive, the 32X boosts the POWER of the Genesis.... or something like that. It plays 32X games which are typically larger, smoother and even better looking than awesome Sega Genesis video games. The 32X suffered from many problems though, not the least of which was its requirement to use two power supplies. The 32X works with the model 1 and model 2 Sega Genesis but requires a special 32X cable to work properly. The 32X is powered by the common Sega MK-3102 power supply and covers the player's room with wires and nonsense. Sega's biggest mistake? Even though the 32X was a commercial disaster and is regarded as a joke there are some amazing games available for the Sega 32X like Doom, Virtua Fighter, Virtua Racing Deluxe, Afterburner and Metal Head. The library of games is smaller than what you'll find for the Genesis but there are some real gems in there like Cosmic Carnage. If you can find the cables to make it work, pick up a 32X for a song these days and you'll be surprised at how good it actually is, even if it is a complete clusterf---. - บันเทิง
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I watched this video in 2012, when I was 12. I'm now 21 and am a proud owner of a working Model 1 Sega CD and Sega 32X. Thank you for getting me into game collecting, Mark. I'll miss the old days. :'-)
Do you have the plastic extension piece for the Model 1?
@@jmullner76 The plastic extension piece only applies to the model 2.
@@julianchrobak-prince1915 Ah, sorry. I read it as a Model 1 Genesis and a Sega CD. Sega CD model 2 has the extension piece for the Model 1 Genesis.
The 32x didn't fail because the console itself was bad. It failed because Sega was at war with itself. Sega of America made and pushed the 32x while Sega of Japan put out the Saturn and ordered the 32x discontinued. Sega had also released and discontinued the Sega CD shortly before, so as you might imagine people were sick of buying Sega's crap only to have support for it pulled shortly after. If Sega had waited to release the Saturn and shown the 32x proper support, or better yet released the 32x as is own console like originally planned the system wouldn't have failed as badly. Instead they trolled their fanbase one to many times and ended up destroying themselves.
Let me guess, Sega had a civil war.
+TheMamaluigi300 Yep
+exorphitus Or Sega could have just waited to release the Saturn and not make an add-on for an aging console that was going to be last gen anyways by the time the Saturn actually came out. Sega really shot themselves in the foot with those Genesis add-ons (Sega CD and 32X. Especially with the 32X.). The 32X was ill-convinced right from the start. What where they thinking? They might have been better off hyping the Saturn before it came out and releasing more games for the Genesis in the meantime.
exorphitus I can confirm this. I worked for one of the largest wholesale distributors at the time and we had meetings with Sega US in which there were also Sega Japan reps. These guys seemed to hate each other! The translators where always embarrassed.
Normlally, I'd say you're a Sega Heda, exorphitus, but yeah. Sega of Japan needs more say in those things.
32X had a lot of great games for it. For the time it had the best home ports of Space Harrier and After Burner
My friend had rented one back in 1996. We played star wars arcade, Virtua fighter, doom, and great arcade ports of after burner and space harrier.
I forgot it also had good ports of NBA jam tournament edition and WWF wrestlemania the arcade game.
May The 32X Be With You. :)
I picked up literally the last one the local K-Mart had. They were using the cover of the box for display, so the stuff was kinda dusty.
I remember the year these came out... Within 6 months the 32X, Sega CD, and all related accessories were in the 75% off bin (actually it was more of a wall because our store had bought a lot of that stuff.) Interesting enough they were sharing the clearance bin with all the Nintendo Virtual Boys.
He likes 32x but AVGN hates it?
AVGN is a nintendo fan, and hes lame as well, which kinda explains why he likes SNES better than Sega Genesis.
Noah Lipsey Eduardo Garduño Also doesn't help that AVGN is a character :)
Never owned a 32x myself... would be nice to pick up along with a Nintendo Virtual Boy.
Haha Virtual Boy is so terrible though! That's bad for the console itself. The only reason 32X is "bad" is because of marketing and the multiple wires. But it's got great games, like Knuckles Chaotix, Kolibri, After Burner, Space Harrier, Virtua Fighter, etc.
After Burner... I'm in.
The Virtual Boy probably isn't all that good but some off the stuff looks interesting :D
Would probably cause bleeding from the mind BUT... for a bargain bin price I wouldn't complain :p
Noah Lipsey The 32X is garbage. The Sega CD is worth owning yes, because it had a lot of great games for it and compliments the Genesis's design very well if you have the right models. In that regard it's like the Famicom Disk System. But the 32X looks horrible, possibly the ugliest console of all time. AVGN said it best, it looks like a tumor. If I ever used it at all, I'd want to take it out immediately after I was done playing. But I can't do that, because it runs off its own damn power adapter.
And as for the games...only 34 titles were released for it, only a few worth playing. Knuckles Chaotix and Kolibri are ok, but everything else you mentioned are arcade ports. Good ports yes, but ports nonetheless and today there exist better ports on better systems like the Saturn. The only port for it that's better than any other console release that I know of is Mortal Kombat II.
If you don't have the cable to connect the 32x to the Genesis, you could do a quick and dirty hack that I did when the cable for mine broke; Just grab some wire, and connect a wire to each hole on the 32x's AV in, then you just connect the other ends on the wires to the same holes on the Genesis, then you tape the mess of wires together. Tada! Now you can play Truxton, eventhough it doesn't require the 32x.
I agree mark the 32x is awesome and even if u don't have 32x games it improves ur sega genesis color palette
The video encoder in the 32X is awesome. It rids the Genesis video signal of any jailbars that's plagued in almost every Genesis.
Everyone says the the 32x and Sega CD suck, but idgaf, I'm getting them for my Model 2 Genesis
Idgaf? Dafuq does dat meen
i dont give a fuck
Awesome! I had my Sega with 32x and Sega CD back in the day! I was talking with some of my friends about it and they didn't even remember these existed. Thanks for proving me right
I'm glad that I'm finally going to get my own 32x soon in the mail.
It would've been great if Sega released the 32X as a separate console instead of an add-on (as they were originally going to), but no, they decided to release it as an add-on.
Or integrate it within the Sega Saturn
Where did you find the time and energy to plug in BOTH cords? Phew! Tiring!
I've been waiting for this review from CGR for a looooonnnngggg time.
Great Review AND best connections tutorial !! thanx
I just picked up a 32X yesterday and it turns out that AVGN was right about it damaging Genesis games. I played Sonic 2 on the 32X for 5 minutes and it just stopped working! It wouldn't even work on the Genesis with the 32X disconnected!
+Adam D I always put my Genesis carts into the 32X. It never damaged any of them.
+John DiLoreto No. Both the 32X and Sonic 2 cart were both clean when I used it. My 32X still isn't working to this day.
Lol the song in the beginning is actually a porn song. I heard it on a porn before.
Jonathan Garduno wtf
And the 32X, as life support, in my opinion, does it's job well, DOOM, MKII, and Knuckles Chaotix especially were all great games, and in a game like Knuckles Chaotix you can tell how much the 32 Bit power of the 32X improves the animation quality just look at how good those sprites are animated dude.
Long day at the office huh.... mark ?
LOL
Cant wait to see the Sega 32X reviews
"Bottom line, the 32x sucked and it was one of the biggest failures of all time."
This isn't a shitty AVGN review. This is an awesome CGR review.
TnVGaming Some people take the internet too seriously.
I know the Nerds videos on the things were funny asf, but they weren't as bad as he said.
@John DiLoreto or they just had that opinion to begin with
Wait...you're running it without the grounding pieces in the Genesis cartidge slot? Also, no mention of the spacer that goes under it, which is a different height between the Genesis 1 and 2 models?
You are missing a couple of metal pieces that are supposed to go into the console flaps. They were to touch something inside the genesis, and that's why there are connectors at the front (and back?) of the 32x.
I bought one of these from a guy on Craigslist for $10. Didn't come with the cable but I later found it at Play N Trade for $8 and tested it with a copy of Doom. Worked :D
I don't embellish. Just got lucky.
I used to watch CGR videos when I was at home sick from school. Now 14 years later I decided to revisit as I'm home sick from work with a nasty case of Norovirus, and I'm honestly feeling better already(-:
Retro Gaming Cables in the UK sell a variety of brand new cables, not official Sega cables of course, but they're made to a very high standard in the UK, and not China or some big factory for 30 cents a piece. Well worth it!
Make sure if you have an NTSC Model 1 Genesis (not a Mega Drive) you choose the "V/U" shaped 8 pin plug, and not the C shaped one.
The benefit of these cables is that you don't need the adapter cable on the end of the 9 pin mini din cable for the Model 2 Genesis/Mega Drive. Less clutter, less mess. I think there's a stereo audio cable available too, just to give better results.
Here's an interesting (or not) bit of video game info...
The Atari 7800 had a planned add-on such as this. The Atari 7800 XM homebrew project drew it's inspiration from the original design. Of course, all the grandiose plans, for the Atari 7800, we're squashed once Atari changed hands from Warner Communications to Jack Tramiel.
Getting a megadrive after school tomorrow, can't wait
It works perfectly with my model 1 genesis, but not so much with my model 2, which is why I'm glad to get the patch for the crossover cable.
I had a 32x... The low count of games hurt... It ended up braking my heart. But now, after all these years, I have 4givin. Still I love Sega
This is like comfort food in review format.
Thanks for this video, dude! I saw a 32x at Gamers, and now I know what all i'll need to hook it up with!
i like the smooth jazz background lol!
And I'm getting my sega clusterfuck soon (genesis, 32x and cd) and will always call it that
These days, I play this on my retropie. It's much easier than trying to track down everything and the life support wires lol
I remember when I was a kid, and I got one of these for my Birthday. We went to Kay-Bee Toys, and Picked it up with Doom. I was really excited, but when I got home it wouldn't work. I was also using a Genesis 1. Took it back about 3 times before I got one that would work right. But still had problems with the games sometimes. I have bad memories with this addon. But good video!
It's reviews like this that remind me why I hit that subscribe button.
In the UK, a good 32x costs about £80 ($133) and Knuckles Chaotix in good condition about £200 !! A bit extreme in the thought you can just emulate it for free.
To quote the AVGN, the mess of wires is a perfect analogy for what the 32X was: it was just the Genesis running on life-support.
Such a noble, yet true answer.
I need to implore for assistance, getting 32x was a dream come through I had since i was 12 and saw star wars arcade in a glass cabin in a local toy store. I just had the machine comming back from repair with a new scart lead, becausr details in yhr graphics were missing. I have a model one mega drive and I am experiecening problems I have tried to hook up alla cables but then suddenly I have no room for the scart one, I need help what am I doiung wrong?
Get Knuckles Chaotix, it's definitely worth it. I've emulated it, but nothing is more satisfying knowing you've connected "everything" and got it working on your TV.
What was the Serial port or whatever on the back of the Genesis used for?
I'm told having the 32x plugged in provides a minor graphical improvement to regular Genesis games. Is this true?
yea it will improve the colors. im not sure about anything else though
This is also true. You're right on the ball. I hope there's some more people out there that also notice this, too. People even say the Genesis is bad because of the 32x/Sega CD! What an outrage! They probably don't own
@LeeMan00 do the regular genesis games look better on the 32x than just running than through the genesis?
i have a question
are you using your new flip camera or your old camera
So to play a Sega CD 32X game you'd need all three wall warts plugged in?
+DB Pooper And TV.
Yes you can do that and someone on Sega 16 is making a Wolfenstein port for the 32X as we speak. The limit of adressable cartrige space on a 32X is the same as a Genesis. 4MB however using bank switching, meaning going from 1 ROM chip to another, you can theoretically make a game infinate in size.
I've got a 32X, but I've only got 6 games for it. However, I like the 32X. It's not the greatest system ever made, but it has some fun games on it. Definitely worth it if you're a collector or are curious.
My 32X however, doesn't have the connector for the original Genesis model, but I do have the part of the wire that works on the Genesis 2.
Do you have the name of the steel drum song that plays during the later part of this video?
That was so well written, I don't even know what to say as a rebutle.
sega genesis is great and i dont know about the 32x but genesis has the best 2d side scrollers and platformer. I enjoy all your sega reviews and i wish you continue to do more :) Thanks for taking your time to show and remind us how great the legacy was.
@MrAzazel666 - No, not the spacer. The expansion piece that plugs in the side of the Genesis, in the part that would normally plug into the SEGA CD. What was THAT for?
So do you need a cable to connect the 32X with the TV?
No
It will display the picture and sound wirelessly
Thank you for the actual technicalities. I am doing an IT/Arts double degree, and anything that expands my mind with technological peripherals is complementary to my learning. I've got some questions for you though, to really test you: Do you know what a SH-2 processor or framebuffer really is? I have learnt about instruction sets.
Question: what's with the red eyed squirrel in the opening logo?
PS. Is it possible to make new titles for 32x with special software? Also, what's the maximum megabit limit for a title for the 32x
4:48 *listens to the music* he did it!! yesss!
huh... mine has metal prong things that you have to insert... does this work with the model 3 genisis?
can you put a powerbase converter into a 32x? Always wondered that
The reason why that extra video cable was required, was because the Genesis video display processor couldn't output the additional colours needed for the 32x. Everything would've had to be filtered through the Genesis, limiting it to 64 on-screen colours out of 512. That cable bypassed this issue. This is also the reason why the Sega CD was limited to the same palette as the Genesis.
But as for games... check out Afterburner and Space Harrier, both faithful ports of arcade classics.
what hookups do you need for the master system?
If I remember a picture of it:It has a red port on the top or bottom that can connect to that cable so you can play on a TV,so it should work.
I just got a 32x and Sega cd any advice? Just asking
Can you use a standard sega genesis model 1 power supply with the 32X? If you don't have the 32X power-supply.
"power supply" more like life support. Great video, I subscribed. I enjoy videos about stuff
I'm gonna have my Sega 32X in a few weeks, I'm so excited :P I'm gonna play Doom all day and night
what's that 9 pin d sub connector on the back of the model 1 genesis?
Are the EM shields necessary?
I have a big question.can you use a sega 32 x on top of a sonic and knuckles game?
do you have the metal prongs for the sega 32x
I thought for the sega genesis model 1 you needed to put in metal prongs in the cartridge slot in order for the 32x to function.
Joseph Bertini The prongs aren't needed, but from my experience with the system growing up (as I eventually somehow lost the prongs), not having them messes with the colors in both Genesis and 32x games. The games still run fine, but the colors are all screwed up, either becoming dim and dull or just changing to completely different colors entirely.
Sooo...Can you play it with the newer models? Like the flashback, or the one that has 80 built in games? Just a guy strapped for funds and wants to play Knuckles' Chaotix
Can u still get stereo sound out of the headphone jack?
I wonder what would happen if you pluged the power base converter on to of the 32X?
You can get lucky. I found a unit alone from a guy who couldn't test it for about 10 on eBay. Then I used my game gear power cord and found a 9 pin mini-din cable for sale on the net and I was able to patch together a working 32x for under 25 bucks (I already had the game gear power adapter and a 2nd generation Genesis. If you have a 1st gen, it's a whole different story).
If I remember correctly you don't need both the 32X AV cable and the 32X conversion cable. The conversion cable should be so you can just use the AV or RFU from the Genesis. That Conversion cable is to Daisy chain the 32X with the Genesis for the Video input from the Genesis, but if you use the AV or RFU from the genesis you shouldn't need that 32X AV cable. I think, this was 25-27 years ago, my memory may be a bit off. :)
I remember my Cousin had the 32x when it was pretty new. I remember playing Virtua Racing a lot on it.
Does this work with the regular sega genesis?
My original 32X came with a spacer cartridge thing that you plugged in the side of the Genesis system. Does anyone know what the point of that thing was??
Wasn't there metal clips that you had to insert if you had a model 1 genesis. I had bought a used 32x with everything except the metal clips that was in the instructions and it never worked for me.
these videos rock! keep it up please!
Just bought one because of this video! :D
what website did you buy the sega 32x?
32X is one of the reasons why the Dreamcast failed.
How? Just asking.
Because people were getting tired of Sega releasing nonsensical hardware so when they released a new system after the Saturn people lost their trust in them
Ah ok. And since the saturn wasn't their future XD
Mike DiLoreto Sega screw over third party developers by scrapping Megadrive, 32X and Saturn support so early. The Dreamcast was handicapped from being heavily dependant on Sega's marketing and software efforts, and that made the entire endeavour financially unviable.
+Centipede not the only reason but one of many
was there ever a 32X that didn't require a external adapter and also for some reason i vaguely remember metal clips that were needed when connecting the 32X to the genesis.
Mark's favorite console together with Cosmic Carnage game for 32x
yeah I agree with you the Sega 32x is very underrated
Releasing so many platforms like the CD and 32X in such quick succession caused Sega to lose so much market share that they eventually quit making hardware.
how much did this thing cost? I vaguely remember the 32x.
Yo that music playing in the background reminds me of time splitters.
Do you need the metal plates
Love how it says High Definition Graphics on the 16 bit
You would also need the electromagnetic shields for the 32X.
Can someone help me. I want to have a sega setup which consists of a sega genesis console + 32x + Sega CD. Are all sega consoles compatable with one another? Or are there specific versions of the consoles that i need in order for this setup to become a reality?
I keep coming back to this episode and saying" Why can't I have one? D:"
what does the x mean in 32x? 320?
love love loved Star Wars Arcade and Doom as a kid with my 32x. Was so sad when it failed.
Wait did he not show the metal clips? Did he just straight plug it in? Were there 32x's that didn't need the metal clips? I'm jealous if so
+joshua powell metal clips are for the model 1, he might have just forgotten to mention them.
+Brandon Ottinger (JaqenH'ghar80) I use mine with a model 1 and don't use the metal clips.
cool, I just followed CGR on twitter, it said there would be a 32x video today and there IS ONE :D for some reason thats a big deal for me lol
there was mean to be a Sega Neptune Console which is a genesis and a 32X built into one console, but soon got scraped afterwards due to the release of the sega saturn. u can check at wiki for it which shows the prototype console as well
@PrrrromotionGiven How do they compare to this generation?