The start of this video is the best part. Joe locks on to Dave as if to say he will beat him if he doesn't agree about the 32x the same way Penn will beat Teller to have things his way
I remember getting my 32X on clearance at Wal-Mart for $24.95 along with a copy of every single game in the library, all for $4.99 each. It was really a pretty decent upgrade at $24.95. I loved it, held me over until I could afford a PS1 and N64 with my lawnmowing money.
I loved my 32X. I didn't buy it full retail, about 6 months after it was released they cut the price. I ended up buying it from Wal-Mart for $50 on sale. That was after I spent 2 days shoveling snow to get the money for it. I traded virtua fighter for Mortal Kombat 2. Mortal Kombat 2 is my all time favorite game and it was fan-freaking-tastic on the 32X
I'm really happy for this episode. Pretty much every other 32X review out there just talks about the system a little and declares whether or not it sucks. It was nice to see the entire library covered. Also that skit at the very end completely made my day.. "I consider you my friend no more." That's just gold. XD
This episode, the Saturn episode and Sega CD episode are the ones I keep coming back to. Easily your best work Dave and Joe. Glad to be a patreon backer, and I hope some folks follow suit so we can get more console reviews. Beard Sack for life.
I watch a lot of gamer reviews and honestly I think Game Sack deserves more views. It's more informative and I really enjoy the technical intros. Thank you guys for entertaining me and asking for nothing in return.
Knuckles Chaotix was the way it was because they wanted 2 player simultaneous play. Honestly I love the game, but I can understand why others don't like it. When I was a kid I only had the Genesis, and I wanted a 32x solely for Knuckles Chaotix. IMO Knuckles Chaotix has the best 2D graphics out of any Sonic game. They are lush and colorful, almost like a pastel painting.
EnigmaHood They are great graphics...although some of the colors both me. Knuckles doesn't quite look right, as if his fur is slowly turning pale pink from old age. I don't know whether I like Sonic CD's or Knuckles' Chaotix's graphics more.
That’s why the SEGA SATURN looks better than PS1 and N64 in 2019, because SATURN had a large library of Beautiful 2D games. Early 3D PS1 like games look like shit.
One of my favourite gaming moments is me and a friend playing through Star Wars Arcade in the Y-Wing. We made it to the end and if either of us would have farted the ship would have blown up it was that damaged. It was a real air punch moment when we beat the game though.
I don’t agree with your take on some of the games, but I appreciate the quick overview of the 32x library. Fun fact: MK2 was the best home port, even better than the PSX and Saturn versions.
I always think it shows how technically advanced arcade games like space harrier and afterburner were that they needed to wait for 32bit generation to get anywhere close to accurate ports!
I love to rewatch any episodes of this channel, anytime i watch these guys talk about retro video games I end up nodding off from all the euphoria I get from going down memory lane.
Great video. I LOVE my Sega Genesis, Sega CD, 32X combo. The Voltron of video game consoles. I too think the 32X gets too much hate. I also have many of the games you mentioned. To each their own but I loved Star Wars 32X. It had an arcade mode and an longer 32X mode plus you could play in 2 player co-op with one person flying and the other as the gunner. There was also a code in Cosmic Carnage to play as the human characters. Keep these great videos coming!
Are you seriously comparing Web of Fire to Mega Man (which does not have awful controls)? And I played Web of Fire for WAAAY over 10 minutes (did you see the previous episode it was in?) Look, it's fine if you like the game, but you're just gonna have to deal with us having different opinions.
I loved being a 15 y.o pothead and getting ripped on weed and playing Doom, Virtua Fighter and Virtua Racing on my 32X back in 95! It may have sucked overall but I got what I could out of it!
I just want to say thank you and that I appreciate this review. When I saw the title, I didn't actually expect you guys to literally cover all the games for this system.
I think the 32x gets a bad rep because of the AVGN's review on it which was done primarily just to highlight bad games. But a lot of 32x games are really good, and they are some of the best 2D graphics you'll see from its era. Definitely worth playing some of these games on emulator, don't bother with the real thing unless you're a collector. :)
Well, the 32x was in fact pretty expensive and has barely any games :/ If it was a seperate console (Sega Neptune) and Sega didn't come out with the Sega Saturn right away, then the 32x would have been much better. But I would pick it up over any 8th gen console as of right now because of their terrible policies, games barely living up to the hype and lack of good exclusives.
M3rtyville All true. The story goes that there was a severe lack of communication between Sega of America and Sega of Japan. 32x was essentially conceived by SOA, and they wanted the Genesis to produce more colors than the SNES, which had a superior color palette. However they had no idea SOJ was coming out with the Sega Saturn, a far superior system. However the Saturn also failed mostly due to the idiotic leadership of Bernie Stollar. The Saturn was primarily designed for 2D processing in mind, but he refused to allow 2D games to be released on it because he felt it would make the Saturn look inferior to the PS1 which had superior 3D processing. As a result, the Saturn died too. Stupid stupid leadership killed Sega.
EnigmaHood It is quiet sad that both sides couldn't agree on one thing. If SoJ had used the marketing tactics of SoA, the 32x had been scrapped and those games be directly planned for the Saturn as well as launch the Saturn later, they could have beaten Sony. It is like Sony had more luck than smart marketing to get all those great games on their consoles and sell like hotcakes. Even the N64 missed its chance to catch on. Ironicly I picked up a Sega Saturn recently mainly for 3D games. I really got interested in the Panzer Dragoon games and the first Nights game recently and import adapters are easy to find today thanks to the internet.
M3rtyville The Saturn was also a nightmare to properly program for. If programmed for properly, the Saturn had amazing 3D processing, as is evinced by the games you mentioned. However programming for 4 processors was no easy feat, and as a result many multiplatform 3D games looked inferior on the Saturn. Also 3rd parties flocked to the PS1 due to the superior 3D processing and ease of programming. Ironically though, most 2D Saturn games have aged a lot better than those archaic looking PS1 3D games. The Saturn was a 2D powerhouse and to this day has some of the best looking 2D games ever made.
Well I don't know what you're expecting from us. The camera parts are 100% improv. Maybe you want us jumping up and down screaming about games like some other lame-ass channels do? I guess there just is no pleasing some people.
Fuck anyone who dislikes Gamesack. There’s literally no reason to hate on them. Their videos are as perfect as you can get and anyone worried about shit like camera work is just nitpicking. Camera moves don’t matter in videos like this. It’s all about the game footage.
I got a 32X in 1997 (actually it was one of my first online purchases), and love it, even if some of the games available for it are mediocre. Even those had their charm, like Cosmic Carnage, which was a scifi Art of Fighting knockoff. Highly underrated add-on . I'm 3/4 of the way to owning a complete library.
Out of all games that I like on the 32X, I like Metal Head, Cosmic Carnage, Stellar Assault and Sangokushi IV. I love the music and storyline in those games.
MK looks like garbage compared to Sf2, I always wonder why so many people laugh at Street fighter the movie so badly while admiring MK at the same time, Sfm is not a great game by any means but offers much better experience than MK does. The hit box and control of MK are both horrendous and unbearable, how could any one tolerate them and keep playing?
Honestly that's one of the biggest issues I have with this channel, they review based on personal preferences and not facts. That and their obsession with "scrolling and scaling".
@@ced214 mk is awful. That series has always had stiff controls. Its like a stationary stick whos attacks involve another stick protruding from the initial one, and thats supposed to be a punch or kick.
No shit, I have gotten several games over the past few months because of the videos you guys make. Sooooo.....keep doing what you do best, also get your asses out to some conventions and hang out \m/
Damn it... I love Game Sack. What a great show. You guys have the only show on TH-cam that I can watch over & over again, without ever getting tired of it.
About the power supply, there is a solution for that: there is a Sega Power Strip which will give you more room to plug in your Genesis and 32X and Sega CD add-on's power supplies. And by "More room", the electrical outlet sockets on the Sega Power Strip are rotated and spaced out.
There are now new power supply's where you only need 1 plug. It breaks out 3 connectors for the 3 components. I have one and it works quite well. Heck of a lot cleaner in the back now.
Lads I discovered your show through an advert on another TH-cam video. Now I have been watching episodes everyday for about 2 weeks! great show guys, I really appreciate your hard work and effort! I love this show why didn't I find it sooner!! keep up the awesome work! Chris
I'm surprised that you guys didn't mention that not only is the 32X compatible with still playing the Sega Genesis games. (Obvious I know) But that it was sometimes known to delete your save games. I found that out with my copy of Shadowrun on the Sega Genesis. Love your videos guys, thanks. :)
Why couldn't Final Fight, Super Street Fighter II Turbo, Captain America and the Avengers, X-Men, and the Simpsons have come home to the 32X? Rondo of Blood? A Shinobi game in the vein of Shinobi 3? No.
hey guys,nice job on the review and thanks for covering supreme warrior that game holds a warm place in my heart.Basically you have to press left/right punch/kick as they appear on-screen
Ryan Amberger Yeah as long as you look past its rough history, it's a neat add on. With easily my favorite console port of Doom, and Space Harrier and Virtua Racing. And Kolibri, a very good 32X exclusive I still like replaying to this day, and knuckles chaotix, while hard to get used to, is underrated in my opinion.
tbh, the 32X was good hardware for its time... all it really needed was: longer support better games better cosmetics a single power adapter for both the Genesis and 32X addon cables not needed another GPU 9something like an NEC or ATI chip woulda been nice)
They did had that, it's called Project Neptune and it was suppose to be a standalone Sega Genesis 32X console similar to the CDX but you can play Genesis and 32X games on it. Sega never released that console cuz everyone (consumer and developers) was focusing on the Sega Saturn at the time or still playing their Genesis. Had they still support that, it would had taken two years until we in NA got the Saturn, Sega ain't going to let that happen so they killed the 32X a year after. It was a good run but it was killed for the better.
When saturn first came out it was really expensive (to me I was in my early teens) I wonder if they stuck with the 32x and made it kind of a 'discount system' where the games cost less, if it would have any more success?
Game Sack I understand, but I feel like every time you guys showcase a fighting game that either has a lot of violence, or uses digitized sprites, you always say that it was "because of Mortal Kombat" in a most disdainful way, like Mortal Kombat was to blame for all those games, haha. Of course, Mortal Kombat took its gameplay style from Street Fighter 2, so you can just blame THAT! :D
Biohazard EXTREME Well the excessive violence and gore in fighting games came from Mortal Kombat for sure. That's its gimmick. I often wonder how popular it would have been if it didn't have that. As for disdain, yeah I don't really feel such things add to the game. They feel tacked on just for the sake of having blood and gore.
Game Sack While it's true that it probably would never have become such a phenomenon if it wasn't for the excessive violence, if that's all that people get from it, then they're really missing out. Mortal Kombat has a very rich backstory, and plenty of depth to its characters, and most die hard Mortal Kombat fans are as invested in that aspect of it as they are in the violence, or the gameplay. Of course when something becomes so popular, other developers will try to rip it off, but all those countless clones don't suck BECAUSE of the violence, they suck in spite of it, and if MK never existed, they may have ripped off Street Fighter 2 instead, and they'd still suck just as much.
Game Sack this makes a lot of sense if people just think about it, without its over the top (for the time) gore it really is just a fighting game, nothing more and nothing less.
I liked well before the halfway point as I began to realize you were going through the whole library. Now that's dedication. Thanks guys. Long live the memory of Sega!
The 32X alone didn't cause Sega's downfall. It was the 32X, the Sega CD, the Game Gear, the huge fiasco with Sonic Xtreme, the Dreamcast being ridiculously easy to pirate for. Just a long stream of consecutive fuck-ups that cost them the trust of her audience and third-party developers.
SuperLlama42 A lot of mistakes led to Sega's downfall. This was one of them, but I think the CD was far worse. Sega's culture had corroded, as they were pitting their American and Japanese teams against each other instead of working together. It is sad, because the Dreamcast was an amazing system, but by then they had lost the trust of the 3rd party developers and customers.
+FallicIdol I don't see how the SEGA CD was worse than the 32X. The SEGA CD was supported for years, & sold over 6 million units globally. The add-on was soley designed to compete with NEC's TurboGrafx 16 CD. I mean the SEGA CD wasn't perfect, it was a worthwhile experiment, but the 32X was a disaster. If was simply diomed from the start with its poor timing, poor graphics, and its presentation, SEGA also touted the 32X as their next gen platform, then as a 'transitional console' then canned the damn thing 11 months after launch, which tarnished their name.
The Sega CD and GameGear had nothing to do with it. The GameGear was a success ( all be it a small one) and the Sega CD, while a commercial flop, it really didn't have a hugely negative effect on Sega. They were making a lot of money on the Genesis and there Arcades. It also helps that the Sega CD did have good games and didn't have a bad impact on Sega's reputation at the time. The same can not be said for the 32x and Saturn.
+FirePrinceZuko 77 The Saturn had great titles. problem was that Bernard Solar, refused to bring popular Japanese titles over and 2D titles weren't allowed. If SEGA of America handled the Saturn the way Sega of Japan did, the Saturn would've placed a solid second here in the States.
This is the best overview on the 32x I've seen. Great show! However I have to disagree with your take on Wrestlemania Arcade and Mortal Kombat II. With a Sega 6 button controller I had no problems pulling off special moves at all. Players should print a move guide for help. Both are excellent arcade ports with no loading times.
yeah I thought the seeming lack of knowledge on what mortal kombat or doom even was was a little discrediting for a channel all about games when they were such impactful games
Counter Strike is an 'impactful' game too, but it looks boring to me and I don't want to play it. I bring that point up because we all think certain things are overrated. That's just how it is. I don't see why someone shouldn't freely express that if they wanted to. To be fair, in later episodes, Joe seemed to like Doom and Mortal Kombat more.
Luis Mediavilla It's more of an opinion thing or an aquired taste. Maybe it didn't appeal to them. It's like how people prefer King of Fighters over Street Fighter or enjoy games like Myst. All down to preference.
kiwisoup Come guys, they get this same comment on like every video from all types of people. It's just not appealing to them. And obviously some personal opinions. Just get over it. Heck, I don't personally like The legend of Zelda Skyward Sword and Minecraft, and even Mega man 5-8.
+Game Sack It was at the part where you were showing off the Spiderman game. It's alright, the Craig Stadler jokes in the Saturn episode were so good, I'll let it slide.
Reviews make me wonder, why developers wouldn't make some sort of Metroid clone using CD or CD 32X technologies, since CD can handle huge amount of data comparing to SNES cartridge
The actual arcade version of Star Wars Arcade was much, much better, with a faster and more stable framefrate, better graphics, and a bigger screen, it's a much easier experience than the 32X version
Yeah but the arcade version of Star Wars ran on hardware that cost around £10000 so it was good that the 32x got so close to the arcade version, especially on a rushed launch game
^Oh, definitely! Can't argue with that! I just got to play it because they happened to have the machine at my local Cinema. I would never pay that kind of money for a cabinet that I wouldn't have anywhere to put :P
THEGREATMAX Yeah I always dreamed of having an arcade cabinet but not so much now that I am able to play many games using MAME and the official Street Fighter 4 arcade stick. I swear it's pure 100% nostalgia for me
you talk about mortal kombat like is any other crappy one off game for the system and like its any other fighter, when in reality it is one of the most successful and well known fighters, and one of the first games to use digitized sprites. I guess to me, when you say that you didn't really think mortal kombat was anything special, its would be like saying that Super Mario Bros. wasn't anything special.
Actually we talked about Mortal Kombat 2. Super Mario may have done some cool things as far as selling NES's goes but that doesn't mean people are forced to like it. I'm personally sick of Super Mario 1. It's like the default game that everyone talks about when they mention videogames.
Some examples of what you're talking about would help us in responding. But what's a flaw to us may seem like nitpicking to you and vice-versa. I think you should watch our show more. Most people seem to think we have generally positive attitudes towards the games the large majority of the time.
A review giving their honest opinions at that time. Also, it's impossible for everyone to be exposed to every popular media out there. Try not to be reasonable here.
***** Dude! I'm just kidding))) Why so serious? That's not opinion of mine))) These games are world-acclaimed-classics, no more nor less. I live in Ukraine, but even I know and love DooM and MK series, from the very childhood. It's like... hating ice-cream) or something like that! Kinda funny IMHO) Joe and Dave rocks anyway. Easy, man! Don't waste yourself in stupid comment-fight. Peace, bro!
Sega 32X was a shameless cash-grab in the US/Europe, it's no wonder it still leaves Sega fans bitter to this day. As an avowed scrub ROM-stealer with no skin in the game whatsoever, I'm still struggling to find even a single game I want to download illegally. If that isn't an indictment I don't know what is.
It was SOA's idea. They designed it in 1993 because the Genesis at the time was riding high. SEGA of Japan was ready to move on from Genesis/MD altogether and had sent SOA a prototype SKU called "Sega Giga Drive" or "Sega Mars", but SOA was determined to keep the Genesis marketshare. SEGA DID have game plans. They just suffered too much from miscommunication and even worse, a Parent company determined to screw them over and kill off their entire gaming brand for selfish corporate interests.
Maybe if Sega of Japan had actually kept Sega of America in the loop and told them, "We've got something in the pipeline", things would have gone better. Of course, the Saturn was a fence-sitting, complex system which tried to grasp Japanese gamers when the real money was in the North American/European markets.
Used to own a 32X back when younger, loved the system. Spent so many hours on Virtua Fighter and Virtua Racer. Keep up the good work guys, really love your show.
doom for ps1 was pretty good, had some good music and it was mostly faithful to the pc version. The n64 version was interesting too. PC was best though. can't believe these guys sifted through all these abysmal games and still had something bad to say about doom and mk2.
Oh and you know you guys are good when I will watch a half-hour+ video based on a bad system add-on and still be thoroughly entertained the entire time. Can I ask why you guys don't do (I don't think, maybe I missed one) system overviews on anything pre-8 bit? Atari 2600 and 7800, Coleco, etc? I know maybe they aren't in your wheelhouse era-wise but your system overview vids are great across the board...I'd love to see you go further back in time!
Thanks for the feedback! I have a sega and a PS1 and I will be recording both of them, is there anything you specifically recommend for recording those (out of the ones you listed). It's hard to find something to record the older systems with, so I really appreciate the help guys!
It's never a bad time to rewatch Game Sack episodes
Show me your sack. Your game sack.
The start of this video is the best part. Joe locks on to Dave as if to say he will beat him if he doesn't agree about the 32x the same way Penn will beat Teller to have things his way
Hell Yeah Brother!
It gets even better after nine years
Not true..right nows a pretty bad time
I was one of the proud 700,000 32x owners. Until it got discontinued like a couple months after I bought it.
Not sure if the majority of SEGA 32X owners were "proud" of it...
That sucks
It was shit apart from Knuckles Chaotix
Yup I got one too, Christmas 94
Time for the community to give you a really slow clap for that comment
I remember getting my 32X on clearance at Wal-Mart for $24.95 along with a copy of every single game in the library, all for $4.99 each.
It was really a pretty decent upgrade at $24.95.
I loved it, held me over until I could afford a PS1 and N64 with my lawnmowing money.
worth a small fortune now.
@@teddym2808 i was on Ebay one day and some one was selling the 32X plus the entire library for 1500 bucks
Every game in the library or every game Wal-Mart happened to have?
Your full of shit
@@donnymac990 You're.
I loved my 32X. I didn't buy it full retail, about 6 months after it was released they cut the price. I ended up buying it from Wal-Mart for $50 on sale. That was after I spent 2 days shoveling snow to get the money for it. I traded virtua fighter for Mortal Kombat 2. Mortal Kombat 2 is my all time favorite game and it was fan-freaking-tastic on the 32X
I got mine 2 years ago for £3.27
I'm really happy for this episode. Pretty much every other 32X review out there just talks about the system a little and declares whether or not it sucks. It was nice to see the entire library covered.
Also that skit at the very end completely made my day.. "I consider you my friend no more." That's just gold. XD
I am also happy the whole library covered because it helped me decide that the 32x library unfortunately sucks 😂
The skit at the end of this video was so damn funny. I love it, don't stop Game Sack
32X Space Harrier and AfterBurner with the Genistick controller is arcade heaven for me, and reason enough to never sell my 32X
SOA: "Let's make a 32 bit upgrade"
(Consults SOJ)
SOJ: "screw you" (releases saturn)
That was pride that took down Sega both in USA and JAPAN.. they were ALL foolish mortals
SoJ ordered new 32-bit hardware to be added. SoA wanted the $49.95 SVP Lock On cart and yo focus on game development. SoA turned out to be right.
@@MaxAbramson3 There are a lot of things about what SoA was right…
Also the PS3 vs Genesis CD 32x skit was priceless. "I consider you my friend no more!" XD
This episode, the Saturn episode and Sega CD episode are the ones I keep coming back to. Easily your best work Dave and Joe.
Glad to be a patreon backer, and I hope some folks follow suit so we can get more console reviews. Beard Sack for life.
I watch a lot of gamer reviews and honestly I think Game Sack deserves more views. It's more informative and I really enjoy the technical intros. Thank you guys for entertaining me and asking for nothing in return.
Knuckles Chaotix was the way it was because they wanted 2 player simultaneous play. Honestly I love the game, but I can understand why others don't like it. When I was a kid I only had the Genesis, and I wanted a 32x solely for Knuckles Chaotix. IMO Knuckles Chaotix has the best 2D graphics out of any Sonic game. They are lush and colorful, almost like a pastel painting.
EnigmaHood They are great graphics...although some of the colors both me. Knuckles doesn't quite look right, as if his fur is slowly turning pale pink from old age. I don't know whether I like Sonic CD's or Knuckles' Chaotix's graphics more.
+Caleb Jaaniste (K-leb) Simple. Sega CD was better designed than 32X.
I still say "you are a good friend, here is 20 dollars" when my friends show me something nice
I´ll take a bad 2d game over a bad 3d game every day. Many early 3d games are hardly playable.
Yeah this was evident to me after purchasing the Playstation Classic recently.
I still think a lot of the early PS1 titles hold up. It's the N64 that's the bad early 3D system for me.
@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN really? It's the opposite for me.
That’s why the SEGA SATURN looks better than PS1 and N64 in 2019, because SATURN had a large library of Beautiful 2D games. Early 3D PS1 like games look like shit.
@@NPCNonBinary I still think the early PS1 3D looks good, especially with the likes of Ridge Racer and Gran Turismo.
Please never stop making these videos! You guys have no idea how much I love this channel!
One of my favourite gaming moments is me and a friend playing through Star Wars Arcade in the Y-Wing. We made it to the end and if either of us would have farted the ship would have blown up it was that damaged. It was a real air punch moment when we beat the game though.
Im still re-watching this episode in 2020. Great stuff
pfff 2020? That's nothing: I am watching this in 2023!
I don’t agree with your take on some of the games, but I appreciate the quick overview of the 32x library. Fun fact: MK2 was the best home port, even better than the PSX and Saturn versions.
Really? I heard it was only slightly better than the Genesis version. I've never tried it first hand though.
I always think it shows how technically advanced arcade games like space harrier and afterburner were that they needed to wait for 32bit generation to get anywhere close to accurate ports!
Growing up in a house without a computer being able to play doom on console is one of the highlights of my childhood
Knuckles Chaotix is awesome. It changes the "core mechanics" for a Sonic game, and that's what makes this game so unic and special.
I love to rewatch any episodes of this channel, anytime i watch these guys talk about retro video games I end up nodding off from all the euphoria I get from going down memory lane.
You and me both buddy
I really like that racing game. It makes me feel like I'm back in a 1990's arcade.
Great video. I LOVE my Sega Genesis, Sega CD, 32X combo. The Voltron of video game consoles. I too think the 32X gets too much hate. I also have many of the games you mentioned. To each their own but I loved Star Wars 32X. It had an arcade mode and an longer 32X mode plus you could play in 2 player co-op with one person flying and the other as the gunner. There was also a code in Cosmic Carnage to play as the human characters. Keep these great videos coming!
"How can I be impressed by something so unimpressive? I consider you my friend no more." - I laughed out loud. Well done.
Are you seriously comparing Web of Fire to Mega Man (which does not have awful controls)? And I played Web of Fire for WAAAY over 10 minutes (did you see the previous episode it was in?) Look, it's fine if you like the game, but you're just gonna have to deal with us having different opinions.
The way that guy says "VIRTUAAA RAAACING!!" had me laughing so hard
"TIME BONER!"
I loved being a 15 y.o pothead and getting ripped on weed and playing Doom, Virtua Fighter and Virtua Racing on my 32X back in 95! It may have sucked overall but I got what I could out of it!
I just want to say thank you and that I appreciate this review. When I saw the title, I didn't actually expect you guys to literally cover all the games for this system.
I think the 32x gets a bad rep because of the AVGN's review on it which was done primarily just to highlight bad games. But a lot of 32x games are really good, and they are some of the best 2D graphics you'll see from its era. Definitely worth playing some of these games on emulator, don't bother with the real thing unless you're a collector. :)
Well, the 32x was in fact pretty expensive and has barely any games :/
If it was a seperate console (Sega Neptune) and Sega didn't come out with the Sega Saturn right away, then the 32x would have been much better.
But I would pick it up over any 8th gen console as of right now because of their terrible policies, games barely living up to the hype and lack of good exclusives.
M3rtyville All true. The story goes that there was a severe lack of communication between Sega of America and Sega of Japan. 32x was essentially conceived by SOA, and they wanted the Genesis to produce more colors than the SNES, which had a superior color palette. However they had no idea SOJ was coming out with the Sega Saturn, a far superior system.
However the Saturn also failed mostly due to the idiotic leadership of Bernie Stollar. The Saturn was primarily designed for 2D processing in mind, but he refused to allow 2D games to be released on it because he felt it would make the Saturn look inferior to the PS1 which had superior 3D processing. As a result, the Saturn died too. Stupid stupid leadership killed Sega.
EnigmaHood It is quiet sad that both sides couldn't agree on one thing.
If SoJ had used the marketing tactics of SoA, the 32x had been scrapped and those games be directly planned for the Saturn as well as launch the Saturn later, they could have beaten Sony.
It is like Sony had more luck than smart marketing to get all those great games on their consoles and sell like hotcakes.
Even the N64 missed its chance to catch on.
Ironicly I picked up a Sega Saturn recently mainly for 3D games.
I really got interested in the Panzer Dragoon games and the first Nights game recently and import adapters are easy to find today thanks to the internet.
M3rtyville The Saturn was also a nightmare to properly program for. If programmed for properly, the Saturn had amazing 3D processing, as is evinced by the games you mentioned. However programming for 4 processors was no easy feat, and as a result many multiplatform 3D games looked inferior on the Saturn. Also 3rd parties flocked to the PS1 due to the superior 3D processing and ease of programming. Ironically though, most 2D Saturn games have aged a lot better than those archaic looking PS1 3D games. The Saturn was a 2D powerhouse and to this day has some of the best looking 2D games ever made.
The nerd does rip it but he mentions that there are good games but he didnt own them so he couldnt review them
Well I don't know what you're expecting from us. The camera parts are 100% improv. Maybe you want us jumping up and down screaming about games like some other lame-ass channels do? I guess there just is no pleasing some people.
guessing the person they replied to deleted their comment.
Fuck anyone who dislikes Gamesack. There’s literally no reason to hate on them. Their videos are as perfect as you can get and anyone worried about shit like camera work is just nitpicking. Camera moves don’t matter in videos like this. It’s all about the game footage.
Don’t hurt Sack’s feelings.
Joe’s gonna use that big ass alligator gob and bite the shit out of you.
I would love to listen to a podcast of you guys just talking shit.
I got a 32X in 1997 (actually it was one of my first online purchases), and love it, even if some of the games available for it are mediocre. Even those had their charm, like Cosmic Carnage, which was a scifi Art of Fighting knockoff.
Highly underrated add-on . I'm 3/4 of the way to owning a complete library.
i really like that you guys show unique games for each system.
there where almost 1 or 2 games which i have i barely heard or seen for the system.
GameSack isn't a youtube thingy anymore, this is a real television show. Good job guys!
Out of all games that I like on the 32X, I like Metal Head, Cosmic Carnage, Stellar Assault and Sangokushi IV. I love the music and storyline in those games.
These guys talk about Mortal Kombat II like they're never heard of it.
MK looks like garbage compared to Sf2, I always wonder why so many people laugh at Street fighter the movie so badly while admiring MK at the same time, Sfm is not a great game by any means but offers much better experience than MK does. The hit box and control of MK are both horrendous and unbearable, how could any one tolerate them and keep playing?
Honestly that's one of the biggest issues I have with this channel, they review based on personal preferences and not facts.
That and their obsession with "scrolling and scaling".
@superkami guru cause u suck
@@janepetit7087 Ma'am no one here shares your opinion
@@ced214 mk is awful. That series has always had stiff controls. Its like a stationary stick whos attacks involve another stick protruding from the initial one, and thats supposed to be a punch or kick.
You guys rock.Keep up the good work! This is the best channel for older game titles around. You two are thorough and fair.
No shit, I have gotten several games over the past few months because of the videos you guys make. Sooooo.....keep doing what you do best, also get your asses out to some conventions and hang out \m/
Damn it... I love Game Sack. What a great show. You guys have the only show on TH-cam that I can watch over & over again, without ever getting tired of it.
Agreed. Good point, Dave.
We'd love to if they'd ever think to put a convention closer than 1200 miles away. :)
I heart game sack. You guys are more in depth than most reviewers. And I think the show has gotten a lot better through the years.
About the power supply, there is a solution for that: there is a Sega Power Strip which will give you more room to plug in your Genesis and 32X and Sega CD add-on's power supplies. And by "More room", the electrical outlet sockets on the Sega Power Strip are rotated and spaced out.
There are now new power supply's where you only need 1 plug. It breaks out 3 connectors for the 3 components. I have one and it works quite well. Heck of a lot cleaner in the back now.
It's really sad to see the devolving friendship of the game sacks over the years...i hope his wife was worth it.
LOL it was great to see the entire 32x library in one show =) Kudos, you guys
I'm a Sega Fanboy mostly, but that nintendo/donkey kong 2001 space odyssey t-shirt in this video is AMAZING!!
Pitfall was one of the most fun games I've ever played
I have a feeling you guys are more of collectors then actual gamers.
Collectors suck!
@@chattingesque372 your mom sucks.
Lads I discovered your show through an advert on another TH-cam video. Now I have been watching episodes everyday for about 2 weeks! great show guys, I really appreciate your hard work and effort! I love this show why didn't I find it sooner!! keep up the awesome work! Chris
I'm surprised that you guys didn't mention that not only is the 32X compatible with still playing the Sega Genesis games. (Obvious I know) But that it was sometimes known to delete your save games.
I found that out with my copy of Shadowrun on the Sega Genesis.
Love your videos guys, thanks. :)
+Jordan Royter The 32X also at times suffered from mechanical problems and had a whopping 55% failure rate!
I remember playing Virtua Racing in the arcade. The cabinet was built like your sitting in a race car, and it costed a frickin dollar to play.
Why couldn't Final Fight, Super Street Fighter II Turbo, Captain America and the Avengers, X-Men, and the Simpsons have come home to the 32X? Rondo of Blood? A Shinobi game in the vein of Shinobi 3? No.
Cause GAY... that's why
@@Godzillafan1980 Awesome response
@@jacobprayer8656 YES it is quite poetic... I was influenced by Shakespearean lore
Loving Dave's utter disdain for the 32x in this episode 😂
I love your show! Thanks for making such great videos!
Thanks!
So glad I discovered this channel, it's great
Lol the ending is great :D
hey guys,nice job on the review and thanks for covering supreme warrior that game holds a warm place in my heart.Basically you have to press left/right punch/kick as they appear on-screen
32X rules ass
Lol that could be taken 2 ways. One that it's good an 2 it's the king of ass which would be bad as well.
It's amazing to me that you guys put a lot of work (or what looks like a lot of work.) for 26k subscribers. Keep it up
I actually like the 32x. Great video.
Ryan Amberger Yeah as long as you look past its rough history, it's a neat add on. With easily my favorite console port of Doom, and Space Harrier and Virtua Racing. And Kolibri, a very good 32X exclusive I still like replaying to this day, and knuckles chaotix, while hard to get used to, is underrated in my opinion.
Plus you can't let a game like Primal Rage or Motocross from letting you enjoy the 32X.
I love your channel. Btw, when will you dedicate an entire episode to the living legend Super Nintendo?
tbh, the 32X was good hardware for its time... all it really needed was:
longer support
better games
better cosmetics
a single power adapter for both the Genesis and 32X
addon cables not needed
another GPU 9something like an NEC or ATI chip woulda been nice)
They did had that, it's called Project Neptune and it was suppose to be a standalone Sega Genesis 32X console similar to the CDX but you can play Genesis and 32X games on it. Sega never released that console cuz everyone (consumer and developers) was focusing on the Sega Saturn at the time or still playing their Genesis. Had they still support that, it would had taken two years until we in NA got the Saturn, Sega ain't going to let that happen so they killed the 32X a year after. It was a good run but it was killed for the better.
+TheSoxmania All 32X needed was a better design: the CD32/CDX was one of the planned designed and concepts for MARS/Giga Drive.
When saturn first came out it was really expensive (to me I was in my early teens) I wonder if they stuck with the 32x and made it kind of a 'discount system' where the games cost less, if it would have any more success?
Agreed. All it needed was a total hardware re-design and good software. Man... so close!
All it needed was everything...
It fixed the Genesis/Mega Drive's biggest problem. Not enough colors on screen. Too bad it was squandered.
If you guys don't like Mortal Kombat, that's fine, but then, stop always mentioning it and giving it a hard time! It's an awesome franchise!
We HAD to mention it here because we wanted to include every single game in the 32X library, which we did. :)
Game Sack I understand, but I feel like every time you guys showcase a fighting game that either has a lot of violence, or uses digitized sprites, you always say that it was "because of Mortal Kombat" in a most disdainful way, like Mortal Kombat was to blame for all those games, haha. Of course, Mortal Kombat took its gameplay style from Street Fighter 2, so you can just blame THAT! :D
Biohazard EXTREME
Well the excessive violence and gore in fighting games came from Mortal Kombat for sure. That's its gimmick. I often wonder how popular it would have been if it didn't have that.
As for disdain, yeah I don't really feel such things add to the game. They feel tacked on just for the sake of having blood and gore.
Game Sack While it's true that it probably would never have become such a phenomenon if it wasn't for the excessive violence, if that's all that people get from it, then they're really missing out. Mortal Kombat has a very rich backstory, and plenty of depth to its characters, and most die hard Mortal Kombat fans are as invested in that aspect of it as they are in the violence, or the gameplay.
Of course when something becomes so popular, other developers will try to rip it off, but all those countless clones don't suck BECAUSE of the violence, they suck in spite of it, and if MK never existed, they may have ripped off Street Fighter 2 instead, and they'd still suck just as much.
Game Sack this makes a lot of sense if people just think about it, without its over the top (for the time) gore it really is just a fighting game, nothing more and nothing less.
I liked well before the halfway point as I began to realize you were going through the whole library. Now that's dedication. Thanks guys. Long live the memory of Sega!
The 32X alone didn't cause Sega's downfall.
It was the 32X, the Sega CD, the Game Gear, the huge fiasco with Sonic Xtreme, the Dreamcast being ridiculously easy to pirate for. Just a long stream of consecutive fuck-ups that cost them the trust of her audience and third-party developers.
SuperLlama42 A lot of mistakes led to Sega's downfall. This was one of them, but I think the CD was far worse. Sega's culture had corroded, as they were pitting their American and Japanese teams against each other instead of working together.
It is sad, because the Dreamcast was an amazing system, but by then they had lost the trust of the 3rd party developers and customers.
+FallicIdol I don't see how the SEGA CD was worse than the 32X. The SEGA CD was supported for years, & sold over 6 million units globally. The add-on was soley designed to compete with NEC's TurboGrafx 16 CD. I mean the SEGA CD wasn't perfect, it was a worthwhile experiment, but the 32X was a disaster. If was simply diomed from the start with its poor timing, poor graphics, and its presentation, SEGA also touted the 32X as their next gen platform, then as a 'transitional console' then canned the damn thing 11 months after launch, which tarnished their name.
also Bernard Stolar.
The Sega CD and GameGear had nothing to do with it. The GameGear was a success ( all be it a small one) and the Sega CD, while a commercial flop, it really didn't have a hugely negative effect on Sega. They were making a lot of money on the Genesis and there Arcades. It also helps that the Sega CD did have good games and didn't have a bad impact on Sega's reputation at the time. The same can not be said for the 32x and Saturn.
+FirePrinceZuko 77 The Saturn had great titles. problem was that Bernard Solar, refused to bring popular Japanese titles over and 2D titles weren't allowed. If SEGA of America handled the Saturn the way Sega of Japan did, the Saturn would've placed a solid second here in the States.
This is the best overview on the 32x I've seen. Great show! However I have to disagree with your take on Wrestlemania Arcade and Mortal Kombat II. With a Sega 6 button controller I had no problems pulling off special moves at all. Players should print a move guide for help. Both are excellent arcade ports with no loading times.
you don't like pitfall, doom, mortal kombat 2... strange
yeah I thought the seeming lack of knowledge on what mortal kombat or doom even was was a little discrediting for a channel all about games when they were such impactful games
Counter Strike is an 'impactful' game too, but it looks boring to me and I don't want to play it. I bring that point up because we all think certain things are overrated. That's just how it is. I don't see why someone shouldn't freely express that if they wanted to. To be fair, in later episodes, Joe seemed to like Doom and Mortal Kombat more.
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It's more of an opinion thing or an aquired taste. Maybe it didn't appeal to them.
It's like how people prefer King of Fighters over Street Fighter or enjoy games like Myst.
All down to preference.
kiwisoup Come guys, they get this same comment on like every video from all types of people. It's just not appealing to them. And obviously some personal opinions. Just get over it. Heck, I don't personally like The legend of Zelda Skyward Sword and Minecraft, and even Mega man 5-8.
octupusman1000 agreed. But I'd play it over most cod games. Expect cod 2 big red one.
Because it's a CD FMV game like we said (and those tend to suck). Thanks for watching!
That clothesline joke was... the.... worst.
Probably. I don't even remember it without rewatching but I'll take your word for it.
+Game Sack It was at the part where you were showing off the Spiderman game. It's alright, the Craig Stadler jokes in the Saturn episode were so good, I'll let it slide.
+Game Sack
How hard would it be, in your opinion, to publish games again for the Genesis, 32x, Saturn?
absolutely loved the ending!! you guys should totally do more of them!! haha
That ending killed me xD
Great video guys. I like that you managed to fit every game every made for the console onto this review.
"port of an atari first person tank arcade game"
could you have just said battlezone?
“I see you Sega, pretending to kill Star Fox!”
I am with Dave on this, not sure why this unit was ever made plus, the Saturn was released in Japan around that time.
Reviews make me wonder, why developers wouldn't make some sort of Metroid clone using CD or CD 32X technologies, since CD can handle huge amount of data comparing to SNES cartridge
The actual arcade version of Star Wars Arcade was much, much better, with a faster and more stable framefrate, better graphics, and a bigger screen, it's a much easier experience than the 32X version
Yeah but the arcade version of Star Wars ran on hardware that cost around £10000 so it was good that the 32x got so close to the arcade version, especially on a rushed launch game
^Oh, definitely! Can't argue with that! I just got to play it because they happened to have the machine at my local Cinema. I would never pay that kind of money for a cabinet that I wouldn't have anywhere to put :P
THEGREATMAX Yeah I always dreamed of having an arcade cabinet but not so much now that I am able to play many games using MAME and the official Street Fighter 4 arcade stick. I swear it's pure 100% nostalgia for me
another great episode guys. Couldn't agree more. The bigger and more complex to hookup the better. Long live the 90s!
Am I the only person who likes Chaotic?
Chaotix*
Absolutely. We'll probably talk about homebrews and prototypes towards the end of the year.
you talk about mortal kombat like is any other crappy one off game for the system and like its any other fighter, when in reality it is one of the most successful and well known fighters, and one of the first games to use digitized sprites.
I guess to me, when you say that you didn't really think mortal kombat was anything special, its would be like saying that Super Mario Bros. wasn't anything special.
Actually we talked about Mortal Kombat 2. Super Mario may have done some cool things as far as selling NES's goes but that doesn't mean people are forced to like it. I'm personally sick of Super Mario 1. It's like the default game that everyone talks about when they mention videogames.
Game Sack Sick of Super Mario 1?? Blasphemyyyy!!
***** just only if the levels werent too hard after a while
Mortal Kombat 1 sucked arse but Super Mario Bros. Is legendary
I never played T-Mek on 32X, but the arcade version with multiple units hooked together was really fun.
koolibri is hummingbird in my language
What is your language?
comradeharley Estonian
Imre Saks Very interesting. Thanks.
holy crap that Easter egg at the end is gold!
I like the cute 8bit sound from star wars 32x.
Some examples of what you're talking about would help us in responding. But what's a flaw to us may seem like nitpicking to you and vice-versa. I think you should watch our show more. Most people seem to think we have generally positive attitudes towards the games the large majority of the time.
Both of you never played doom or mk2
Really ???
What kind of review is this ?!,!
+bonggzilla Those ports are terrible. And trust me, I'm a diehard SEGA fan.
A review giving their honest opinions at that time. Also, it's impossible for everyone to be exposed to every popular media out there. Try not to be reasonable here.
We use a variety of equipment from a Sony DSR25, Sony DVMC-DA1, Intensity Pro and a generic RGB SCART to HDMI transcoder.
Joe... You dont like DooM, you dont like MK2 also... What planet are you from? :)
***** Joe... Is that you? Oh... it's just another butthurt! Whatever...
***** Dude! I'm just kidding))) Why so serious? That's not opinion of mine))) These games are world-acclaimed-classics, no more nor less. I live in Ukraine, but even I know and love DooM and MK series, from the very childhood. It's like... hating ice-cream) or something like that! Kinda funny IMHO) Joe and Dave rocks anyway. Easy, man! Don't waste yourself in stupid comment-fight. Peace, bro!
Alrighty then) Well, even Heavy Rain have its own haters... I definitely don't want to understand them))) LOL
I actually LOVE the music in Metal Head, thank you very much!
Sega 32X was a shameless cash-grab in the US/Europe, it's no wonder it still leaves Sega fans bitter to this day. As an avowed scrub ROM-stealer with no skin in the game whatsoever, I'm still struggling to find even a single game I want to download illegally. If that isn't an indictment I don't know what is.
Courtesy of SEGA of America.
It was SOA's idea. They designed it in 1993 because the Genesis at the time was riding high. SEGA of Japan was ready to move on from Genesis/MD altogether and had sent SOA a prototype SKU called "Sega Giga Drive" or "Sega Mars", but SOA was determined to keep the Genesis marketshare.
SEGA DID have game plans. They just suffered too much from miscommunication and even worse, a Parent company determined to screw them over and kill off their entire gaming brand for selfish corporate interests.
SEGA's version of FX was a simple VDP chip simply called 32X VDP or Genesis 32X. It was designed to allow porting of Model 1 games over to 32X.
Maybe if Sega of Japan had actually kept Sega of America in the loop and told them, "We've got something in the pipeline", things would have gone better. Of course, the Saturn was a fence-sitting, complex system which tried to grasp Japanese gamers when the real money was in the North American/European markets.
Had the 32X hardware been a part of the Sega CD hardware from the get go, it might have worked.
Yeah, the 32X!! I always wanted one of these. Thanks for the info, guys, be well.
Hey.... the 32X.... hehehah.... what a useless peripheral. Nevertheless, good coverage guys.
Used to own a 32X back when younger, loved the system. Spent so many hours on Virtua Fighter and Virtua Racer. Keep up the good work guys, really love your show.
doom is only really good on the pc. it fucking rules on the pc in fact. what with all the mods and all.
doom for ps1 was pretty good, had some good music and it was mostly faithful to the pc version. The n64 version was interesting too. PC was best though. can't believe these guys sifted through all these abysmal games and still had something bad to say about doom and mk2.
Oh and you know you guys are good when I will watch a half-hour+ video based on a bad system add-on and still be thoroughly entertained the entire time.
Can I ask why you guys don't do (I don't think, maybe I missed one) system overviews on anything pre-8 bit? Atari 2600 and 7800, Coleco, etc? I know maybe they aren't in your wheelhouse era-wise but your system overview vids are great across the board...I'd love to see you go further back in time!
well i'm a brazilian and i would care about that game that were released for the 32X here in my country...
Thanks for the feedback! I have a sega and a PS1 and I will be recording both of them, is there anything you specifically recommend for recording those (out of the ones you listed). It's hard to find something to record the older systems with, so I really appreciate the help guys!
Start reviewing different kinds of shelled seeds so you can call the show Nut Sack
Or different types of sphere shaped items so they can call the show Ball Sack
This particular end skit is definitely my favorite.