Doctor Who: The Complete Story of 'The Cybermen'

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  • @thewhoaddicts
    @thewhoaddicts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    I hope you enjoyed The Story of the Cybermen! Yes a lot is still missing (including their appearance in A Good Man Goes to War) but from what I could gather, that legion was a part of the Cyber Wars, a topic we may tackle in a future video!

    • @jamiethomas3768
      @jamiethomas3768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Who Addicts love ❤️ it guys!

    • @jamiethomas3768
      @jamiethomas3768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Who Addicts maybe the angels next? They are your favorite villain 🦹‍♂️ Matthew.

    • @ElleCirano
      @ElleCirano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wasn't expecting this until Saturday, glad we get it now!!! 😁😁

    • @phantomsidious2934
      @phantomsidious2934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well that can't be helped, the modern Cybermen have a very convoluted history, are they the lumic versions still? Are they a combination of mondas and lumic Cybermen? The modern series really has made a mess of them in my opinion

    • @jefferyyoung2580
      @jefferyyoung2580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A!

  • @edwardreed67
    @edwardreed67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1041

    Only in Doctor Who can you have the major difference between two planets being one is upside down, and inhabited by lizard people who cybernetic-ally enhance apes who time travel and play it completely straight faced.

    • @shabnamrafique3638
      @shabnamrafique3638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I know we might as well put monkeys in tin cans; there you go you got your cybermen.

    • @VirginPrince
      @VirginPrince 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      You're going to love the Celestial Toymaker.

    • @splorpmguffins6052
      @splorpmguffins6052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah like most of doctor who is just straight up retarded plot wise, great to watch when you are high

    • @naubolos8426
      @naubolos8426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      In fairness, both planets were inhabited by ''lizard people''.

    • @redneckwithajeep5001
      @redneckwithajeep5001 ปีที่แล้ว

      Earth has lizard people to the only one I actually remember is a lesbian in the 19th century

  • @mb2000
    @mb2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +480

    Drinking game: take a shot every time he says “Cyber...”

    • @shebbs1
      @shebbs1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      I would need a cyber replacement for my liver!

    • @EndoClaw
      @EndoClaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Owain Shebbeare so you would need a cyver

    • @madabbafan
      @madabbafan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I don't have enough bottles of whisky

    • @kurankrishan8971
      @kurankrishan8971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      We’re screwed
      Breaking news: mass deaths are linked to damaged organs by drinking too much alcohol

    • @nightmarekiller3699
      @nightmarekiller3699 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dead by minute 4

  • @CoolCat8927
    @CoolCat8927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    when the daleks met the cybermen, it wasn't war, it was pest control

  • @royhay5741
    @royhay5741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +350

    It's implied that all Cybermen from Series 6 onwards are from our universe lacking the Cybus Industries logo and instead having the circular designed chest piece. However, it's also implied in Series 7's Nightmare in Silver that the Mondasian and Parallel Earth Cybermen had met one another and allied themselves fighting in the Great Cyber Wars together. So from Series 7 onwards excluding Series 10 we Areias fact seeing both types of Cybermen, a nice tie off for the Parallel Earth Cybermen.

    • @Gojirawars03
      @Gojirawars03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I feel it likely started with the Series 5 and 6 Cybermen, since it wouldn’t make any sense for the Mondasians to somehow invent the exact same design as their Cybus counterparts.
      Seeing Cybus designs flying Mondasian style starships in Series 5 and 6 makes me think that the Cybus Cybermen met their Mondasian counterparts in the space-time vortex after the events of “The Next Doctor.”

    • @sorrenblitz805
      @sorrenblitz805 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Gojirawars03 It does make sense. Mondasians are technically human. Convergent evolution is a thing on our world where different things evolve into the same shape. Earth Humans and Mondasian Humans being basically the same thing the Cyberman shape may just be what shape Mechanized humans will take. Like Ichthyosaurs weren't fish but looked like fish.

    • @cement_eater
      @cement_eater ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I hope someday we see the first interaction between the mondasians and cybusmen

  • @wcapewell3089
    @wcapewell3089 4 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    To quote Count Dooku from star wars:
    "I've been looking forward to this".

  • @Xegethra
    @Xegethra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    It's funny how these "emotionless" beings have a lot of anger and irritability with a strong instinct to survive. You can't really write emotionless, because you need to write a reason for them to live, something to care about.

    • @galarstar052
      @galarstar052 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      i assume it's more basic programming. They're just computers carrying out what they're programmed to do.

    • @alphatrion100
      @alphatrion100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@galarstar052 that would make them un interesting

    • @VictorGreinvolfe48
      @VictorGreinvolfe48 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@alphatrion100 depends who you ask. I prefer the more organic mondasian cybermen

    • @alphatrion100
      @alphatrion100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@VictorGreinvolfe48
      the antagonist having a somewhat relatable motivation or having doubts about his motivation can give a story so much more depth when done right than just having mindless drones as baddies.
      And the first cybermen are the scariest because they are so obviously part human.
      The later ones just look like robots
      When big movies have hordes of drones i dont know anything about i feel nothing during the action

    • @VictorGreinvolfe48
      @VictorGreinvolfe48 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@alphatrion100 that’s why I like the more organic ones. They’re still visibly human

  • @killy1
    @killy1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I am sure in one episode they addressed the cybermen being all over the place suggesting that it is an inevitable branch of evolution across many planets.

    • @Nocturnewashere
      @Nocturnewashere ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Correct. There are multiple differrnt subspecies of Cyberman.
      The original Mondasians Cyberman. The Telosian Cyberman from Tomb of the Cybermen. The CyberFaction from The Invasion. The CyberNomads from Revenge of the Cybermen, and the CyberNeomorphs from Earthshock to Silver Nemesis. Then there's the Parallel Earth Cybermen, and the hybrids in Nightmare in Silver. And now the Galifreyan Cybermen.

    • @cement_eater
      @cement_eater ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nocturnewashere didn’t all of them originate from Mondas until 2006?

  • @ishaandw
    @ishaandw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Was it a complete coincidence that I watched a Classic Cybermen story, a modern Cybermen story and listened to a Big Finish Cybermen audio yesterday? Yes, it was.

    • @nelsonunit7000
      @nelsonunit7000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Which were they?

    • @cement_eater
      @cement_eater ปีที่แล้ว

      If you still remember, yeah, which were they?

  • @Squicx
    @Squicx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    I want to see a doctor who episode with the casing removed and it shows a walking corpse.
    It's dark but HOLY HELL THAT WOULD BE FREAKY COOL!!!

    • @jameslegault9398
      @jameslegault9398 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      The cyber men is just a brain in a suit with artificial nerves, haven't you been paying attention?
      Edit:not talking about the ones missy created

    • @Detson404
      @Detson404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@jameslegault9398 Or the cyber woman from Torchwood or the time when that chubby guy with the baby was being converted. It’s dr. Who, the show laughs at canon.

    • @jameslegault9398
      @jameslegault9398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Detson404 chubby guy is Craig

    • @erikduvmo8137
      @erikduvmo8137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      series 5 ep 12 the pandorica opens:
      th-cam.com/video/EOjsH16k-v8/w-d-xo.html

    • @jamesbarras3834
      @jamesbarras3834 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jameslegault9398 you’re new to Dr who huh, there is no cannon

  • @thehorrorcounselors4747
    @thehorrorcounselors4747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +785

    The Cybus Cybermen are without a doubt the best incarnation of the cybermen for me and that’s cos they don’t look like flimsy plastic silvery cheap looking cybermen they look like literal metal men and that iconic stomping they do is amazing and just shows their weight and strength.

    • @ftumschk
      @ftumschk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      The stomping is what I dislike about them most. Technology usually gets quieter and slicker as it improves, so their noise and stiff movements come across as rather silly to me.

    • @jellybabiesarecool4657
      @jellybabiesarecool4657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      Most people say the flimsy plastic cybermen are better because they feel more like humans shoved inside a suit rather than normal robots.

    • @MrRobertoMoir
      @MrRobertoMoir 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      I’d disagree. The stomping and “delete” nonsense feel like bad additions to the cyberman lore to me. They were always desperate, slinking and sneaking to survive before that.

    • @davidgeisler9885
      @davidgeisler9885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Also not a fan of the stomping here. They aren’t robots. It’s a key point that so often gets lost when they are presented in stories.

    • @davidgeisler9885
      @davidgeisler9885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @Ricky Gaughen metal is heavy on earth. Some metals are heavier than others. I'd like to think in SciFi land that a civilisation that can build Cybermen has found a way to build "metal" / armour that is light.

  • @clugirl86
    @clugirl86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    I love this video. It was very informative. Daleks (space Nazis), Cybermen (humans with no feelings), and The Master are the villains that are creepy, but we love it when they appear. I am going to watch this video again!

    • @majodkajavs6977
      @majodkajavs6977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Cyber men are comunists/socialists

    • @fjccommish
      @fjccommish 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      DALEKS (space Nazis), Cybermen (space communists), the Master (space tyrant) - all forms of leftists.

    • @2345mat
      @2345mat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Space nazis lmaooo

    • @thequokkahaslanded321
      @thequokkahaslanded321 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I never thought of Daleks as Supremacists in space but you are right. They are flipping Conservatives 🤣🤣🤣

    • @gaminganimators7000
      @gaminganimators7000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I never thought of the Daleks being nazis but that makes sense

  • @Legendary3Dgamer
    @Legendary3Dgamer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    This feels like a movie specially with the music

    • @antcoloniesofearth7295
      @antcoloniesofearth7295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I like how doctor who has so much rich history and detail behind it, that is what happens when you have a very flexible show with 50 years of content and many writers, but Gallifrey was done badly, I used to imagine it like Middle Earth from Lord of the Rings, a magical mysterious planet with rich history, but the show handled it badly and made it feel empty and cheap which is why I am glad they destroyed Gallifrey, because it was already ruined and the timecards felt weak, but now we know the doctor is from another mysterious world with proper timecard like beings. Now that new mysterious world doesn't feel boring and empty like Gallifrey, because we know nothing about it, if the show ever explores it, they would have to do it properly or it will be ruined like Gallifrey.

  • @bcr4503
    @bcr4503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +253

    Imagine if Who Addicts wrote Doctor Who stories for BBC. 👌👌👌

    • @macturner2196
      @macturner2196 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I work in Hollywood. I've had arguments with execs. One was CEO of Warner Bros.
      They don't know to target an audience and create, They try to please everyone, but end up pleasing nobody.

    • @Steph.98114
      @Steph.98114 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@macturner2196 exactly, they need to realise it's better to focus on the fans and if the fans like it, more people will come. A great example of this is the Mandalorian tv show, rather then trying please everyone it tries to give the fans what they want and has seen critical success

    • @macturner2196
      @macturner2196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Steph.98114 Yeah, Dave and Jon have given the fans what they want. What a concept, right? If DW had a young, attractive man, it would do better. Even Paul McGann in an 8th Doctor mini series would do better. That, or REVIST an old face, and have Paul come in. He's still attractive to women, even for his age.
      But I think 45 and under would be right. Smith was in his 20's.
      But that would bring back female fans. Boys would want to play with the action figures. It would bring back the success of the old days if they cast Kris Marshall. He is just right for that type of thing. But, he's not getting younger. Anyway, that's my thoughts on WHO. He should be a guy, boys want to be, and girls want to be with.

    • @bcr4503
      @bcr4503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @SoapCanMan who

    • @morphor
      @morphor ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @SoapCanMan even fugitive outshined despite the issues.

  • @Mintlicious
    @Mintlicious 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    A design aspect of the Cybus Cybermen, that I feel is often overlooked, is that the faceplate's design was specifically intended to evoke the shape of a skull. It really helps to emphasize the human aspect while still getting to enjoy full cyberization. It's chilling creature design.

  • @tmntleo
    @tmntleo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Say what you want about the Cybermen, they got some banging good music.

  • @penninefilms4714
    @penninefilms4714 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The Cybermen are for me the most horrific Doctor Who villain, the true body horror element of them I don’t think has yet to be realised on screen.

    • @naubolos8426
      @naubolos8426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Truly! Shame that they keep getting badly used. Even in some of the great stories of the Classic series they were a little off; such as when they are shouty and angry in 'Earthshock'. The weakness to gold was a terrible idea from Holmes, who hated Cybermen, as well; it was better when they were killed by radiation.

    • @maverickhistorian6488
      @maverickhistorian6488 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They are rather tragic figures, who were taken by force and 'upgraded ' against their wills

    • @Anayvin
      @Anayvin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      literally the weeping angels

  • @lizbmusic11
    @lizbmusic11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I discovered your wonderful channel today. I'm 60 and still a Dr Who addict. It was always my favorite programme as a kid. I found the cybermen terrifying! My parents wouldn't allow me to watch for a time snd I protested so much thry had to give in. I still remember the argument lol!

    • @13th_Ghostly_Grimm
      @13th_Ghostly_Grimm ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A real cool boomer you are

    • @Goodiesfanful
      @Goodiesfanful ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The girl who played Ace was also terrified of the Cybermen as a kid. Her mother banned her from watching Dr Who because she was getting Cybermen nightmares.

    • @CloudyNight2156
      @CloudyNight2156 ปีที่แล้ว

      What was the argument?

    • @kaylaskreations4973
      @kaylaskreations4973 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You won the battle my friend

  • @corneliuscrewe677
    @corneliuscrewe677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    I honestly think the original Tenth Planet are the most terrifying. As cheesy as those gauze-like masks were, it actually worked to humanize them just to enough to really underline the horror of what they did to themselves.

    • @choco.__.cat8088
      @choco.__.cat8088 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      honestly!! but i feel like it was just a bit better in world enough and time. just because we got to witness the genesis of the cybermen,, how they started, how they ended up the way they were, the amount of pain they were in throughout the conversion process. i feel like the fact that we got to see it made it more real

    • @Biodebatable
      @Biodebatable 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Agreed, the tenth planet and the moonbase designs build into the uncanny, the modern Cybermen feel too mechanical imo, too far removed from humanity to represent the fear of assimilation.

    • @mrtuber8207
      @mrtuber8207 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I actually think gauze masks are creepier than the metal ones. Makes it look more medical like and surgical. Which emphazises the body horror

  • @jzanimates2352
    @jzanimates2352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    You should do the complete story of Rassilon or the timelords

  • @Regulus985
    @Regulus985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's a story as old as time.
    Doctor meets cyberman.
    Doctor defeats cyberman.
    Doctor loses cyberman.
    Doctor meets cybermen again.

  • @Uajd-hb1qs
    @Uajd-hb1qs ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I really loved how they carried over the original Mondasian design into the modern day. A lot of tv series that started in the late 20th century try to make up for the technical limitations of the time by revamping costumes into intricate and updated designs or simply using cgi. The doctor who team was like “you know how the original cybermen looked like guys in fabric costumes with cardboard boxes strapped to their chests? Well that’s how the cybermen look canonically. Here’s one now to prove it.”

  • @leeannturner494
    @leeannturner494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Thank you for this wonderful video. I really enjoyed it. I have Autism & can easily get confused & overwhelmed with information, but the complete story of the Cybermen was explained perfectly, so I never felt I was getting confused or overwhelmed.

  • @hglasier
    @hglasier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Cybermen were invented by my late great uncle Kit Pedler I believe. A man of vision.

    • @naubolos8426
      @naubolos8426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, along with Gerry Davis. Your uncle came up with the race with the best concept in DW!

    • @megatron8449
      @megatron8449 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool!

  • @angelicagaldos
    @angelicagaldos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Cybermen are scary just like the Daleks. Thank you for the awesome video The Who Addicts. I'm now an addict to your channel. Keep up the awesome content.

  • @gavinburr6213
    @gavinburr6213 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video.
    My 2¢ is the cybermen are more of an inevitable concept rather than a specific race.
    Like how carcinisation leads creatures to evolve to crab like beings. Humans in the Whoniverse just end up creating Cybermen sooner or later so snuffing them out is effectively impossible.

  • @DCSMedia
    @DCSMedia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Once again, I have to applaud you for another incredible video. These story of videos are fantastic. No wonder Liv goes on about them in live-streams, they’re just so damn good. Or should I say.........
    EXCELLENT

  • @elizabethspedding1975
    @elizabethspedding1975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The Cybermen wonderful! I'm 58 and I remember hiding behind the sofa as a little girl.

  • @simonking2869
    @simonking2869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Your 'Complete Story..." series is very well made and fascinating. Thank you!

    • @thewhoaddicts
      @thewhoaddicts  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you so much! I put a lot of effort into them so that means a lot

  • @swedishbloke
    @swedishbloke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My favourites are the Mondasian Cybermen (the ones Capaldi’s doctor encounters on the colony ship) and the Cybus Cybermen

  • @kryten1016
    @kryten1016 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    I personally think though the lone cyber man looks cool half faced human, i think id be more scared if it it was completely cyber, it looks to emotional.

    • @antcoloniesofearth7295
      @antcoloniesofearth7295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I liked the lone Cyberman but I agree, I think it is because he had emotions, he looked like an evil guy in a cyber suit a not a walking zombie.

    • @crimsondynamo615
      @crimsondynamo615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The only thing i really liked about him was how his armor looked like an amalgamation of different cyber designs

    • @eukgaming8914
      @eukgaming8914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bruh thats its gimmick

  • @nelsonunit7000
    @nelsonunit7000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The harvesters big finish 7th doctor story, where the cybermen seek to return to the flesh might have warranted a mention here? Also the sword of orion stories?

  • @deathblade909
    @deathblade909 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That one episode that showed us the first cybermen was crazy and the best

  • @SargentRail
    @SargentRail 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love the wheel in space Cybermen. Especially the scene where the second doctor says to Jamie “I’ve got company” then the camera pans to the Cybermen. They may not be the creepiest or the funniest (cough cough earthshock) but the letterbox Cybermen I think are the most cyber-y. They had 3 whole serials which greatly took advantage of the less plastic like look.

  • @ariktaranis8855
    @ariktaranis8855 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i could be wrong here but im pretty sure the mondassian cybermen didn't use inhibitor chips or anything like that but instead just cut off the part of the brain that processes emotions. which is what made the original conversions so dangerous which they show in spare parts.

  • @chaosboxproductions-scotti7153
    @chaosboxproductions-scotti7153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It's videos like this that make you realise how utterly amazing, creative, clever and just mind blowing Dr Who and it's lore is. Great stuff. Great video.

  • @OverlordMalarkey
    @OverlordMalarkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The flaw of cybermen is they wish to improve humanity, which is a noble goul but it they "upgrade" humans by force, taking away the one thing that makes humans human. The freedom of choice

  • @directeducation2890
    @directeducation2890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My favourite moment while watching The invasion on my 4K TV was not just seeing those Cyber-wetsuits, but in a close-up of their feet, seeing that their Cyber-boots were held on by Cyber-laces! I remember the size of TV we had when that was first on, and no-one would have noticed on a TV like that.

    • @naubolos8426
      @naubolos8426 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They got Cyber-laces again after 'Earthshock'. They have them in 'The Five Doctors' and 'Attack of The Cybermen'. They make sense as if the foot is damaged, it is easier to untie or cut open laces. Though I am not sure how they'd tie them with those big Cyber-hands!

  • @taleyajoinson4703
    @taleyajoinson4703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    David Bank's *Cybermen* is a pretty goddamn good bible for the timelines up to Varos. Even works after that fact with stuff like Spare Parts and The Doctor Falls slotting into it very neatly

    • @naubolos8426
      @naubolos8426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indeed. David Banks's work works beautifully and the makers of DW should use it as a bible along with 'The Terrestrial Index' by Jean-Marc Lofficier.

  • @PlanetNateGaming
    @PlanetNateGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The Cybermen with the brain windows still creep me out to this day (Just imagine being able to see your brain)

  • @alexfletcher5192
    @alexfletcher5192 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The obvious tragedy of the Cybermen is that they were probably always Dr Who's most grisly concept, but increasingly sidelined as robots. And there are a mere handful of stories that explore what they actually mean in terms of humanity. But there is still scope. You see it in modern politics and the psychopathy of that. And the inability to design societies around humans rather than machines.

  • @chriscaygill6331
    @chriscaygill6331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fantastic episode of "The Story Of" guys!!! Gave me a lot of information I didn't already know (particularly at the beginning of the video about the very start of the Cybermen). 20:35. Lol.😂😂
    I'd LOVE to see a Sarah Jane story of. That would be great as I haven't seen much of the classic era and my knowledge is limited.

  • @sk1ppman
    @sk1ppman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Man, the Cybermen have a bad case of Power Creep. Now there's Time Lord Cybermen? Come on man.

  • @jellybabiesarecool4657
    @jellybabiesarecool4657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    There was also that race of cybermen in The War Master that Cole started who fought in the time war but got wiped out of history.

  • @WhiteChevy4.8
    @WhiteChevy4.8 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    These guys were always the most terrifying doctor who villains to me when I was younger.

  • @cosmichobo4216
    @cosmichobo4216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Great Video five thumbs up
    👍👍👍👍👍
    Request:Can you do U.N.I.T. Next

  • @phantomsidious2934
    @phantomsidious2934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Excellent video, the Cybermen are my third favorite villains after the Master and Davros, although I must confess I like the classic Cybermen way more than the stomping robots of the modern series. Apart from the two parter in series 2 the Cybermen haven't had a proper story in the modern series very much, and their last 3 outings the Master was the screen stealer, I just Hope one day we get a proper story with Cybermen like the mondas ones from the series ten finale, the classics still work..

    • @nightowl8477
      @nightowl8477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Master always makes an Alliance with another species, the Cybermen are just the most interesting for him to team-up with.

    • @phantomsidious2934
      @phantomsidious2934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@nightowl8477 interesting yes but the Cybermen become sidelined and forgettable which Cybermen should never be

  • @ianmangham4570
    @ianmangham4570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was cybermen crazy in the 70s, still am. Best cybermen ever were with Tom Baker in 1975 era

  • @misterjakester
    @misterjakester 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great video! Something I’d be interesting in seeing is you doing a video on all the companions in the series, from the show, audios, comics, and stories. I think it would be really cool.

  • @stevepashley795
    @stevepashley795 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video was brilliant. Thank you. I've been a Dr Who fan from day one. I have every episode from the first till Jodie, and still downloading. So I have subscribed. Thank you. I was 10 when the first episode aired. Never missed one since

  • @Log-On-Line
    @Log-On-Line 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i loved the design for the cybermen in capaldis last season
    i loved that they brought back the old design and it really looks creepy with that cloth mask

  • @rushstone5670
    @rushstone5670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a brilliant video. Keep it up dude, you're on your way to gaining even more subs!

  • @lunaflower4507
    @lunaflower4507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this amazing video I love cybermen so much. Your content is fantaic keep up the amazing work x

  • @vergil3687
    @vergil3687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "UPGRADE OR BE DELETED"-a cyberman

  • @ReiverBlue1971
    @ReiverBlue1971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done! Interesting information all through out. Good work

  • @andreaswheeler
    @andreaswheeler 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is a great video, loads of information presented as clearly as possible , nice one

  • @nightowl8477
    @nightowl8477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    My favourite villains! The body horror, the creepiness, the communism, the exploration of humanity and emotion. They rarely get utilised properly, but (like Martha) I love them all the same.

    • @theentity5201
      @theentity5201 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      You got it there, the cybermen are effectively technological communists. The whole speech from the cyber leader in doomsday about humans being removed of their sex, colour, class and creed, you will become identical, you will become like us. Thats nearly what Marx imagined give or take a Frankenstein idea or two, if the daleks are the fascist nazis/imperial Japan/Italy then the cybermen feel like the soviet union and china in a way, true communism would be the cybermen. Identical and equal save for the commanding leaders or cyber planners/hive mind.

    • @antcoloniesofearth7295
      @antcoloniesofearth7295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      My favourite Cyberman stories:
      -Spare Parts
      -World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls
      -Tomb of the Cybermen
      -The Haunting of Villa Diodatti, Ascension of the Cybermen and The Timeless Children

    • @robertsimpson8292
      @robertsimpson8292 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I really don't see much parallel to communism

    • @nightowl8477
      @nightowl8477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@robertsimpson8292 - it's there, but it's probably unintentional.
      Think of the Cybermen as the opposite to the Daleks (nazism being the polar opposite to communism.)

    • @nightowl8477
      @nightowl8477 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@antcoloniesofearth7295 - yeah, they're bloody brilliant stories. Really unique take on the Cybermen in all of them, except perhaps The Timeless Children, but the idea of Cyberfreyans is something I've been hoping for for a while.

  • @KimPossibleShockwave
    @KimPossibleShockwave 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    IIRC the Lumic Cybermen were reverse-engineered/re-developed from corpses of the Modasian Cybermen, found by Lumic.
    Ironically, he improved on the design: Only the brain was used compared to full-body conversion (even through they later did this during the Battle of Canary Wharf and beyond), and he eliminated their weakness to gold.

  • @LSween7573
    @LSween7573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The cyber men are an amazing doctor who villain

  • @adamcrombleholme6180
    @adamcrombleholme6180 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Say what ya want about the timeless child but the cyber masters were amazing! I loved the concept and design, gave me goosebumps

  • @anothergingeronthetheinternet
    @anothergingeronthetheinternet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The little things near the cybermen’s eye look a bit like tears i just noticed that

  • @jayanderson9375
    @jayanderson9375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks, just rewatching this, what a resource!

  • @greg2961
    @greg2961 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We need you back during this wilderness period!

  • @twistedmindsteam1449
    @twistedmindsteam1449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Biography of k9 anybody? I feel like it would be a lovely light-hearted adventure

  • @TheDankee75
    @TheDankee75 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    confusion started in the beginning of video with ape vs reptiles. But it a great video and so much still to clear up, keep up the good work!

  • @HappyCodingZX
    @HappyCodingZX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't know if you mentioned if but the Cybermen's cameo in the Five Doctors is probably worth including.

  • @Direwolf-pg7wx
    @Direwolf-pg7wx ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I dont really know why but the original modasian cybermen absolutely terrify me for some reason

  • @ChuckNorrisDragonborn
    @ChuckNorrisDragonborn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought that the parallel universe cybermen joined forces with the normal cybermen and that's why there designs are similar in later seasons.

  • @thomasmoran6547
    @thomasmoran6547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The cybermen are my favourite dw villains

  • @Ethanc905
    @Ethanc905 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these!!! Can’t wait for the next

  • @entwistlefromthewho
    @entwistlefromthewho ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish that, when they revived Doctor Who in 2005, they had just started over with a new First Doctor.

  • @StarWarsJay
    @StarWarsJay 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant mate. I really enjoyed that.

  • @EdgyShooter
    @EdgyShooter 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the theory of the mondasian colony ship cybermen being the origin of the cybermen as that implies it all came down to the master again

  • @darrenwilliams5615
    @darrenwilliams5615 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    spare parts is one of the greatest pieces of work ever written in who lore. very emotional and scary which is a big deal for an audio story.

  • @D1n0nlyD1v94
    @D1n0nlyD1v94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    17:10 can we all just acknowledge how utterly uffed up this is ?

  • @willadeefriesland5107
    @willadeefriesland5107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    International Electromatics... Tobias Vaughn... The Invasion... St Paul's steps... What an iconic image...

  • @hailander09
    @hailander09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very nice, great work once more! I watched happily until the timeless children were mentioned, at which point i hastily vomited, shut the computer down and assumed the fetal position, weeping quietly while contemplating what an absolute trainwreck my once favorite show has become.

  • @kafeimewtwo2410
    @kafeimewtwo2410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just realized, the reason he Master calls it the Genesis of the Cybermen in World Enough and Time is likely because the cybermen in the main universe come from that colony ship, especially post-Mondas destruction.

    • @kafeimewtwo2410
      @kafeimewtwo2410 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      also small tangent, I dont think in World Enough and Time and The Doctor Falls, I don't think the Master upstages the Cybermen. If anything, they're upstaged by the cybermen and are honestly a great addition to the episode.

  • @SFS1009
    @SFS1009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some very good points made here...Plus those few, As yourself, Who mentioned material from David Banks "Excellent!" Cybermen book.

  • @adrianbeckmann3778
    @adrianbeckmann3778 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These stories are so convoluted that I literally lose track of what was happening like 5 minutes into this video.

  • @jamesbarras3834
    @jamesbarras3834 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a vague memory of reading a doctor who book that called the cyber men a phenomenon thats happened to countless worlds across the universe and said that it’s something ingrained into all living things. I might be completely making this memory up who knows

  • @maximedemers3467
    @maximedemers3467 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot a certain moment in A Good Man Goes to War.
    Rory: "I have a message and a question. A message from the Doctor, and a question from me: Where is my wife?"
    *Silence*
    Rory: "Oh don't give me those cold looks. The 12th Cyber Legion hears everything that happens in this region."
    Cyber Leader: "What is the Doctor's message?"
    *Cyber Fleet and/or space statinons explode*
    Rory: "Would you like me to repeat the question?"

  • @vasp99
    @vasp99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My theory is that the Master will cause the Time Lords' return through his ressurection of them as cyborg slaves. Meaning that they'll escape his influence and restart their civilization .

  • @royhay5741
    @royhay5741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's implied that all Cybermen from Series 6 onwards are from our universe lacking the Cybus Industries and instead having the circular chest piece. However, it's also implied in Series 7 Nightmare in Silver that the Mondasian and Parallel Earth Cybermen had met one another and allied themselves fighting in the Great Cyber Wars together. So from Series 7 onwards including Series 10 we are seeing both types of Cybermen, a nice tie of for the Parallel Earth Cybermen.

    • @SFS1009
      @SFS1009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It makes a lot of sense...Or as the cyber leader would say..."Excellent!".

    • @royhay5741
      @royhay5741 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SFS1009 motivational video from the Cyberleader th-cam.com/video/Mt67k3AEl1s/w-d-xo.html

  • @ragewielder3098
    @ragewielder3098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I thought that the tomb of the cybermen was the first appearance of them on tv with the second doctor?, it’s also lucky that the upgraded ones from the nightmare in silver and all the other episodes after never moved as fast as they did in that one episode ever.

    • @TheAutisticBrony
      @TheAutisticBrony 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tenth Planet with the 1st Doctor and Moonbase with 2 are the first 2 appearances of The Cybermen.

    • @directeducation2890
      @directeducation2890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Moonbase is half lost, though, so Tomb is the first fully surviving 2nd Doctor Cyberman story.

  • @tonycavanagh1929
    @tonycavanagh1929 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Cyber men, was the only Dr who monsters that scared me in the 60s

  • @nightowl8477
    @nightowl8477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Ascension of the Cybermen comes before Nightmare in Silver, doesn't it?

    • @jasondavidson9491
      @jasondavidson9491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I believe nightmare in silver comes after all stories as those Cybermen were more powerful than their predecessors and had super speed, therefore the blew up the planet as nothing could stop them. I believe Ascension and TTC come before the Cybermen that appear in Dark Water and Nightmare in Silver is when the Cybermen finally died as we've never seen the versions from that episode which had superspeed and basically invincible. Honestly its all confusing but that's basically how I see it

  • @kangthao5121
    @kangthao5121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did I end up here from looking up Dragon Balls Z saibamen to Dr. Who Cybermen?

  • @JAProductions494
    @JAProductions494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeees the Cyber-Wars next plz

  • @LexiTheLeo
    @LexiTheLeo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Is it just me or are the Cybermen more scary than the Daleks? Idk id rather come into contact with a Dalek than the Cybermen 🤣 thank you for your video by the way!

    • @thebostonterrierdude1585
      @thebostonterrierdude1585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dying would be much preferred to having my head cut open WHILE IM ALIVE AND AWAKE and living the rest of my days a robot zombie.

    • @bob_the_bomb4508
      @bob_the_bomb4508 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well cybermen are certainly more able to deal with stairs…

    • @pikachufantastic
      @pikachufantastic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@bob_the_bomb4508darleks have been shown to have the ability to fly so stairs mean nothing to those crazy flying disco trash cans.

    • @bob_the_bomb4508
      @bob_the_bomb4508 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pikachufantastic they had to retcon the flying ability after the famous Birkett cartoon “well this buggers our plan to conquer the universe…”

    • @pikachufantastic
      @pikachufantastic ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bob_the_bomb4508 oh I didn't know that little bit, cool bit of information thanks for sharing.

  • @willadeefriesland5107
    @willadeefriesland5107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've always believed that the 'main' universe Cybermen merged technologies with 'Pete's' universe ones that crossed over. This could explain why the main universe Cybermen look the way they do in the later modern Who era... They are STILL the deadliest foes of the Doctor... The only ones that we could REALLY become! Brrr! Scary!

  • @thedoctor4949
    @thedoctor4949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The old rusty normal cybermen looked so cool and they always survive .

  • @Eltonlaleham
    @Eltonlaleham 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AWESOME CYBERMEN VIDEO IN BILLIONS OF WAYS

  • @wcapewell3089
    @wcapewell3089 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Maybe do a video on a classic villain, Sutekh

  • @charion1234
    @charion1234 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always thought cybermen didn't have a single origin and were instead an inevitability. Like if a human were transformed into an android they would always be a cyberman.

  • @tardisglitch547
    @tardisglitch547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    revenge of the cyberman is apparently the furthest point in the cyberman timeline so far

  • @dadcomeback1470
    @dadcomeback1470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never realised they used cricket gloves for the cybermen on silver nemesis 😂 i dont know why that made me laugh

  • @LSween7573
    @LSween7573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Anyone think the cyber men are the third most creepiest doctor who villain

    • @thehorrorcounselors4747
      @thehorrorcounselors4747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think they are the #1 best doctor who villains!!

    • @LSween7573
      @LSween7573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah they’re my personal favourite

    • @arthurmorgan3354
      @arthurmorgan3354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Who are number 1 and 2?

    • @LSween7573
      @LSween7573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      #2 the daleks
      Honourable mention the silence
      #1 weeping angels

  • @MisterAndrewBuckley
    @MisterAndrewBuckley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cybermen marching down the street in 2020 wouldn't surprise me

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      @pokechimp88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @ninjaortiz845
    @ninjaortiz845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the first version to use actual humans for their body is my fav