Max is such a great addition to Crooked Media. Not only is he intelligent and an excellent writer, his wittiness is spot on! He meshes well with the team. 🎉
One of the things I really liked and was only aware of subconsciously was asking yourself if it was important to post something and basically who would care. I have found myself doing that lately, even deleting something before hitting send. Great series, guys. Love the humor you bring to all you do.
This is a great topic!!! Unmooring yourself from your phone and social media in general is a deliberate and constant act of CHOICE. I’ve weened myself off my phone reliance and it’s changed my life for the better.
For those who cannot spend a full 1hour 30 minutes of screen time on this great topic, I feel that the core information is here >>1:01:10 - 1:27:57 . x2 Speed brings it down to a 15-minute chunk of gold.
Before smartphones, I did not even have a TV (just radio, newspapers). Exhausted ? Read an easy magazine or...go to sleep. When I got a TV, so distracted by ...ads. Felt engulfed in useless bits of inforrmation between 2 interesting programs. Now addicted to phone but when tired in the evening. This pidcast is very interesting because folks more in need of connection because of their jobs. Doing engraving. Sculpture for years. My rule : give any new class or hobby 3 months. Most won't stick but those which will will take you a long way.
Right around when this challenge started, I was confronting my own addiction to my phone. The Offline Challenge genuinely helped provide me with some tools (One Sec, Grayscale, turning off notification [I turned off badges as well, they still drew me to open the apps]) to reduce my screentime from 5 hours to 3. Then, about a week and a half after Jon did it, I had had enough and deleted Twitter off of my phone. That brought my screentime down to just over an hour a day (the apps that contributed to my screentime after that have been things like Waze, messages, etc). Removing Twitter, for me, was the key to really getting my addiction under control because realized I was *reflexively* opening Twitter, even if it wasn't why I picking the phone up, to the point that it was effecting my short-term memory. Now, I pick up my phone, remember Twitter isn't there and put it back down (unless I genuinely need it). I've found myself staring into space, actually having space in my brain to either have some free-floating thoughts or even just relax and have *no thoughts* instead of inducing anxiety and stress from the endless doom scrolling. My only disagreement is that you *need* to do the flip phone part of the challenge to break the addiction; sure, cold turkey may work better but in this economy not everyone can afford to go buy a second phone just for the sake of breaking the addiction to the devices we already pay for, others need the smartphone capability for accessibility reasons, etc. If you're a listener and you happen to read this, don't be discouraged if you can't get a flip phone. Turning on screen time, using the One Sec app (I used it specifically for Twitter and it worked wonders within the first couple of days), and deleting Twitter from my phone have personally helped me not only start to form a healthier relationship with my phone, social media, and the internet but I can absolutely tell that I'm more productive, less stressed, less anxious, and actually just feel a bit lighter now that I'm not participating in the never-ending vitriol to the same degree I was before. Thank you Jon, Max, Caroline, and the Crooked team for coming up with this roadmap to freeing myself from the shackles of my phone.
I've been doing my own version of Offline challenge. I feel so much better. I'm more of an introvert so wanting to connect with others is not always the primary reason I crave phone use. It's actually being exhausted from being around others all day. I find myself wanting to numb out so I start scrolling.What I have been doing instead is taking a walk outside by myself or coloring as an alternative to phone use. After I do that I feel less irritable being around others. Being online was draining my energy because of all the social interaction online.
Y'all are so much fun! Love Offline and Max is a great addition. Y'all have good chemistry; it feels like I'm listening to my friends. And bou do I need to lessen my screen time, too. Multitasking is a myth!
This was a great challenge!! Perhaps because I was not brought up on smart phones, (I am in my 50's) I tend to use my phone as more of a tool than something to suck all my time up with. Wherever I am, it is not out but inside my bag. I have a smart watch so if it is something important, I will be notified but otherwise, I don't care. I read, listen to the radio, cook, bake, craft, spend time with others and never think of picking up my phone to see what I missed. I do think that what we are missing is connection and FUN. I have never felt connected by using my phone but by spending my time with people or talking to people using my phone. I work with HS kids and it always baffles me that instead of talking, they text each other and they are sitting right next to the person.
Loved this episode so much, especially the discussion with Catherine about being more intentional with how we're using our phones and I can't wait to hear how Jon and Max's relationship with their phones continues to evolve
I grew up before smart phones or even mobile phones in general. As I get older, I want to become the best I can be with the things I loved as a child: riding dressage and playing viola. This has lead to participating in multiple musical groups, and taking riding lessons and leasing a horse. I have something to do almost every evening after work. And yes, I use a smart phone but I try to keep it at a minimum and being satiated by early social media, I always stayed off Twitter and Instagram (too many passwords!) I read the news on my phone and don't have a TV (the previous opium of the masses!) Its not a matter of never using a smart phone, its a matter of finding balance and interesting things to do as hobbies (I also excercise, walk daily and meet friends for hiking etc ) I used to do martial arts as well. Just find something you love to do and work on it (in the pandemic I learned how to paint with acrylics which I did on the computer in long distance classes but it was great!) Anyone who is beyond precontemplation should be able to do this, you just need will and motivation.
I knew I was 'too online' when my headphone batteries died and I was like: "These things only last 14 hours? What if I need to be on my computer for longer than that? What then, headphones?!"
This was really thoughtful! I want to try some of these strategies this summer. I think my biggest addiction with the phone is TH-cam ; I cut out Twitter and Instagram and only go on fb a little. But TH-cam and Netflix are my Achilles heels
What a great show. Your guest was awesome, and I have really enjoyed this challenge. I’ve been doing my own version, and found that even small changes matter. I will check out the tool kit now, too. And I agree with Max- you’re both winners. 🌟🌟💕💕✌️✌️
Interesting topic my phone is used as a phone once upon a time my dear friends would come over every Thursday evening for movie night / game night depending what the visual offerings were. Now it always and only movie night and 15min into the movie I look around to realize I'm the only one actually looking at the visual wonder on my absolutely fabulous 75" TV while they're faces are glow from the light from their phones
Before watching episode comment: I think so, I only use my phone for communication, and productivity as well as recording. I check twitter maybe 3-4 times a day at most and don't really like social media anyways. I haven't had facebook for a few years and before that was just a year, I really hadn't had social media most of 2010-2016. I don't like to just sit with my phone doing nothing, I have to be moving around, playing guitar, or working. It's just necessary. I'm not even watching this on a phone, it's on my desktop. I consider myself born along the apex of which technology began to take hold and so I have an appreciation for not having a device around. It's weird but I'd rather just use it for audiobooks most of the time, listening to a book. After episode: Yeah I see the points they are making. I guess I feel like I've been there for awhile. Sorry you lost, Jon.
Great topic and I have enjoyed watching Jon and Max go through this. I'm also happy max has joined the Crooked team. I don't think I have phone addiction but I do have computer addiction. I can't avoid it as I work from home. However, I did do the greyscale idea on the phone and cut the usage of my phone by half or more. I am amazed how effective that is. The few games I might play aren't as fun in greyscale! Thanks for doing this and sharing with us!
I'm in my mid-forties, and I have a smartphone (only bought in 2021 to have my Covid vaccination QR Code on. A must for where I live). But I have no twitter, no facebook (anymore, deleted in 2010) and no other social media. To me, it's so vacuous and pointless, and given the problems we have especially with the known effects it has on kids and teenager's confidence and self-esteem, I'm happy not to have gone all in on it. I live in South Korea which has some of the highest phone addiction levels in the world and I see daily the negative effects it has. As a teacher also, I see the negative effect it has on students. But Koreans have everything on their phones, their credit cards, their photos, their social media, basically their lives, and it's awful to see how people have become so dependant on these things. Phone companies also have you over a barrel because not only do you have your whole life on your phone, they can sell you the newest versions of phones with their new features, so you're up to date and fashionable. That's even before we start on the misinformation and disinformation daily that people see on these social media platforms. Hate it. But it's only going to get more addictive and more dependant for people.
The Maggie Haberman rule is actually something I apply to real life. Every day I think back and “congratulate” or thank myself for not saying something I was thinking about saying. In hindsight, many things sound far more weird and unnecessary than they do in the moment when you’re excited and want to offer your input.
I try to use a Haberman-like rule about posting, despite PLENTY of knee-jerk reactions and mistakes still being made (I'm using it NOW! 😬). One thing that does help, especially as an everyday person, is that there are no conversations on Twitter - moreso than other SM. Maybe there's a volley or two at times, but it all disappears when the next vacuous micro-crisis comes up, and they often usurp the real ones. So, good chance the impact you desire won't be made. Oh, well, and ANYhoo... I've become much more of a phone person since The VID, so I'm looking forward to getting time back to be more creative. 🤓 Thanks for the tips!
"Give me my phone. " Groans Jon 😂 To his defense, this would be the MOST difficult time to be away from your phone. Trump is facing 70+ indictments between FL & NY. 🤯
I did get a flip phone but as a person without a TV and who's internet is a Verizon hot spot I need to do some prepping (downloading videos, getting a DVD player etc.) If I want to have my 50 gigs of high speed last the whole month.
I found that having limited internet helped me, in that I had to choose, do I want to watch this enough to plan ahead for it? Dumb stuff that I’d watch only because it was there - that temptation was removed, and I didn’t miss it.
"Your Song" by Elton John is a terrible song as a romantic pick, and I only realized that recently. The song is an actual joke, and nobody mentions that. Crazy pills! None of the lyrics, other than the chorus and hook, are about anything other than how difficult it is to write a song. It's just a songwriter making excuses over coming up with lyrics, so they just write that. Listen to the song again. The progression is: Romance, Romance, This thing I forgot about you, Writing songs is hard, Romance (same as before), Blah blah blah, Romance (same as before, again) The whole song is a troll. 😂
I like Max but he has major "little brother brought home an A grade on the day I got suspended" energy today. There is such a as a sore winner, Max. Chill, the glue is not dry on your placard yet 😂
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Max is such a great addition to Crooked Media. Not only is he intelligent and an excellent writer, his wittiness is spot on! He meshes well with the team. 🎉
I couldn’t agree more. Too often hosts are chosen for their talent for low-life snark. I so much prefer the wit-with-depth combo.
I agree with you both. I also appreciate his positive nature (i.e. “nice apprentice”). Refreshing.
Max's kindness during the 'Apprentice' section was really striking - really sweet
One of the things I really liked and was only aware of subconsciously was asking yourself if it was important to post something and basically who would care. I have found myself doing that lately, even deleting something before hitting send. Great series, guys. Love the humor you bring to all you do.
This is a great topic!!! Unmooring yourself from your phone and social media in general is a deliberate and constant act of CHOICE. I’ve weened myself off my phone reliance and it’s changed my life for the better.
[Typed on an iPhone]
I walked away from twitter about 6 months ago and it is no longer missed. You folks are my last quilts pleasure😊
For those who cannot spend a full 1hour 30 minutes of screen time on this great topic, I feel that the core information is here >>1:01:10 - 1:27:57 . x2 Speed brings it down to a 15-minute chunk of gold.
Max is so Thoughtful. So. Darn. Thoughtful. 🥰
Before smartphones, I did not even have a TV (just radio, newspapers). Exhausted ? Read an easy magazine or...go to sleep.
When I got a TV, so distracted by ...ads. Felt engulfed in useless bits of inforrmation between 2 interesting programs.
Now addicted to phone but when tired in the evening.
This pidcast is very interesting because folks more in need of connection because of their jobs.
Doing engraving. Sculpture for years. My rule : give any new class or hobby 3 months. Most won't stick but those which will will take you a long way.
Right around when this challenge started, I was confronting my own addiction to my phone. The Offline Challenge genuinely helped provide me with some tools (One Sec, Grayscale, turning off notification [I turned off badges as well, they still drew me to open the apps]) to reduce my screentime from 5 hours to 3. Then, about a week and a half after Jon did it, I had had enough and deleted Twitter off of my phone. That brought my screentime down to just over an hour a day (the apps that contributed to my screentime after that have been things like Waze, messages, etc). Removing Twitter, for me, was the key to really getting my addiction under control because realized I was *reflexively* opening Twitter, even if it wasn't why I picking the phone up, to the point that it was effecting my short-term memory. Now, I pick up my phone, remember Twitter isn't there and put it back down (unless I genuinely need it). I've found myself staring into space, actually having space in my brain to either have some free-floating thoughts or even just relax and have *no thoughts* instead of inducing anxiety and stress from the endless doom scrolling. My only disagreement is that you *need* to do the flip phone part of the challenge to break the addiction; sure, cold turkey may work better but in this economy not everyone can afford to go buy a second phone just for the sake of breaking the addiction to the devices we already pay for, others need the smartphone capability for accessibility reasons, etc. If you're a listener and you happen to read this, don't be discouraged if you can't get a flip phone. Turning on screen time, using the One Sec app (I used it specifically for Twitter and it worked wonders within the first couple of days), and deleting Twitter from my phone have personally helped me not only start to form a healthier relationship with my phone, social media, and the internet but I can absolutely tell that I'm more productive, less stressed, less anxious, and actually just feel a bit lighter now that I'm not participating in the never-ending vitriol to the same degree I was before.
Thank you Jon, Max, Caroline, and the Crooked team for coming up with this roadmap to freeing myself from the shackles of my phone.
I've been doing my own version of Offline challenge. I feel so much better. I'm more of an introvert so wanting to connect with others is not always the primary reason I crave phone use. It's actually being exhausted from being around others all day. I find myself wanting to numb out so I start scrolling.What I have been doing instead is taking a walk outside by myself or coloring as an alternative to phone use. After I do that I feel less irritable being around others. Being online was draining my energy because of all the social interaction online.
Access to a toddler or young child offers a great way to rediscover fun for yourself and provide enrichment for the child.
As a disabled person who is socially isolated, I do rely upon my phone and internet connections
"Let's do Nice Apprentice" is the most Max thing I've ever heard Max say 💛
Y'all are so much fun! Love Offline and Max is a great addition. Y'all have good chemistry; it feels like I'm listening to my friends. And bou do I need to lessen my screen time, too. Multitasking is a myth!
'Can You Have a Healthy Relationship With Your Smart Phone?'
When it's used as a tool, not just a toy.
This was a great challenge!! Perhaps because I was not brought up on smart phones, (I am in my 50's) I tend to use my phone as more of a tool than something to suck all my time up with. Wherever I am, it is not out but inside my bag. I have a smart watch so if it is something important, I will be notified but otherwise, I don't care. I read, listen to the radio, cook, bake, craft, spend time with others and never think of picking up my phone to see what I missed.
I do think that what we are missing is connection and FUN. I have never felt connected by using my phone but by spending my time with people or talking to people using my phone. I work with HS kids and it always baffles me that instead of talking, they text each other and they are sitting right next to the person.
Great show and great guest. Offline is one of my favorite podcasts and I didn't think it could get better but the addition of Max was a good one!
Loved this episode so much, especially the discussion with Catherine about being more intentional with how we're using our phones and I can't wait to hear how Jon and Max's relationship with their phones continues to evolve
I grew up before smart phones or even mobile phones in general. As I get older, I want to become the best I can be with the things I loved as a child: riding dressage and playing viola. This has lead to participating in multiple musical groups, and taking riding lessons and leasing a horse. I have something to do almost every evening after work. And yes, I use a smart phone but I try to keep it at a minimum and being satiated by early social media, I always stayed off Twitter and Instagram (too many passwords!) I read the news on my phone and don't have a TV (the previous opium of the masses!) Its not a matter of never using a smart phone, its a matter of finding balance and interesting things to do as hobbies (I also excercise, walk daily and meet friends for hiking etc ) I used to do martial arts as well. Just find something you love to do and work on it (in the pandemic I learned how to paint with acrylics which I did on the computer in long distance classes but it was great!) Anyone who is beyond precontemplation should be able to do this, you just need will and motivation.
I knew I was 'too online' when my headphone batteries died and I was like:
"These things only last 14 hours? What if I need to be on my computer for longer than that? What then, headphones?!"
This was really thoughtful! I want to try some of these strategies this summer. I think my biggest addiction with the phone is TH-cam ; I cut out Twitter and Instagram and only go on fb a little. But TH-cam and Netflix are my Achilles heels
What a great show. Your guest was awesome, and I have really enjoyed this challenge. I’ve been doing my own version, and found that even small changes matter.
I will check out the tool kit now, too. And I agree with Max- you’re both winners. 🌟🌟💕💕✌️✌️
Interesting topic my phone is used as a phone once upon a time my dear friends would come over every Thursday evening for movie night / game night depending what the visual offerings were. Now it always and only movie night and 15min into the movie I look around to realize I'm the only one actually looking at the visual wonder on my absolutely fabulous 75" TV while they're faces are glow from the light from their phones
My average daily screen time never goes below 8 hrs 😅 I think I just watch too much PSA on the TH-cam app
Before watching episode comment:
I think so, I only use my phone for communication, and productivity as well as recording. I check twitter maybe 3-4 times a day at most and don't really like social media anyways. I haven't had facebook for a few years and before that was just a year, I really hadn't had social media most of 2010-2016. I don't like to just sit with my phone doing nothing, I have to be moving around, playing guitar, or working. It's just necessary. I'm not even watching this on a phone, it's on my desktop. I consider myself born along the apex of which technology began to take hold and so I have an appreciation for not having a device around. It's weird but I'd rather just use it for audiobooks most of the time, listening to a book.
After episode:
Yeah I see the points they are making. I guess I feel like I've been there for awhile. Sorry you lost, Jon.
I haven't wanted to mention it, but it seems like my TH-cam addiction is outta control :/
Yep. That’s mine.
Ditto. I lived without a TV for years but now I watch 6 hours of YT a day
Great topic and I have enjoyed watching Jon and Max go through this. I'm also happy max has joined the Crooked team. I don't think I have phone addiction but I do have computer addiction. I can't avoid it as I work from home. However, I did do the greyscale idea on the phone and cut the usage of my phone by half or more. I am amazed how effective that is. The few games I might play aren't as fun in greyscale! Thanks for doing this and sharing with us!
I'm in my mid-forties, and I have a smartphone (only bought in 2021 to have my Covid vaccination QR Code on. A must for where I live). But I have no twitter, no facebook (anymore, deleted in 2010) and no other social media. To me, it's so vacuous and pointless, and given the problems we have especially with the known effects it has on kids and teenager's confidence and self-esteem, I'm happy not to have gone all in on it. I live in South Korea which has some of the highest phone addiction levels in the world and I see daily the negative effects it has. As a teacher also, I see the negative effect it has on students. But Koreans have everything on their phones, their credit cards, their photos, their social media, basically their lives, and it's awful to see how people have become so dependant on these things. Phone companies also have you over a barrel because not only do you have your whole life on your phone, they can sell you the newest versions of phones with their new features, so you're up to date and fashionable. That's even before we start on the misinformation and disinformation daily that people see on these social media platforms. Hate it. But it's only going to get more addictive and more dependant for people.
My problem is Crooked and Meidas. Thanks guys.
The Maggie Haberman rule is actually something I apply to real life. Every day I think back and “congratulate” or thank myself for not saying something I was thinking about saying. In hindsight, many things sound far more weird and unnecessary than they do in the moment when you’re excited and want to offer your input.
For some reason I could really see Jon dressed up as Elton John, I think it would really work.
Big fan of Catherine, and the three of you together
I try to use a Haberman-like rule about posting, despite PLENTY of knee-jerk reactions and mistakes still being made (I'm using it NOW! 😬). One thing that does help, especially as an everyday person, is that there are no conversations on Twitter - moreso than other SM. Maybe there's a volley or two at times, but it all disappears when the next vacuous micro-crisis comes up, and they often usurp the real ones. So, good chance the impact you desire won't be made. Oh, well, and ANYhoo... I've become much more of a phone person since The VID, so I'm looking forward to getting time back to be more creative. 🤓 Thanks for the tips!
My primary addiction is not with my phone, but with my iPad.
I really don't want to give up my phone. I'm a real introvert outside of work. The phone is my book and news etc. People are a drain lol
I agree. I'm not on social media anymore. I mainly use my phone for news or the Kindle app which takes up most of my screen time each day.
"Give me my phone. " Groans Jon 😂 To his defense, this would be the MOST difficult time to be away from your phone. Trump is facing 70+ indictments between FL & NY. 🤯
This has encouraged me to take some of your challenges to heart… And I just need my bf to do it too haha
Do you have an advice for users of two phones simultaneously while sitting in front of the laptop
I did get a flip phone but as a person without a TV and who's internet is a Verizon hot spot I need to do some prepping (downloading videos, getting a DVD player etc.) If I want to have my 50 gigs of high speed last the whole month.
I found that having limited internet helped me, in that I had to choose, do I want to watch this enough to plan ahead for it? Dumb stuff that I’d watch only because it was there - that temptation was removed, and I didn’t miss it.
Is there a link/short list for all of the challenges they've done?
Great timing on this with Reddit going dark.
Me thinking this us a great idea, watching on my phone 😂😂😂
My kids (6 & 8) also make cardboard cell phones and tablets. They watch them with their stuffed animals.
Nooooooo I don't want it to be done. 1:00
FOMO sinks relation ships
What is FOMO?
@@MahkyVmedia1 "Fear of missing out"
You sound boring
"Your Song" by Elton John is a terrible song as a romantic pick, and I only realized that recently. The song is an actual joke, and nobody mentions that. Crazy pills! None of the lyrics, other than the chorus and hook, are about anything other than how difficult it is to write a song. It's just a songwriter making excuses over coming up with lyrics, so they just write that. Listen to the song again. The progression is:
Romance,
Romance,
This thing I forgot about you,
Writing songs is hard,
Romance (same as before),
Blah blah blah,
Romance (same as before, again)
The whole song is a troll. 😂
I read on my phone...
it helps twitter is trash at the moment.
Guilty pleasure😂
I immediately deleted the app as soon as I heard that Elon took over.
I like Max but he has major "little brother brought home an A grade on the day I got suspended" energy today.
There is such a as a sore winner, Max. Chill, the glue is not dry on your placard yet 😂
Step 1 Have selfcontrol. No more steps needed.
I downloaded the onesec app and have LOVED it. It has helped so much in reducing my social media time.
How about just cracked the shot of my phone grp🥹