Say what you want about Thorin, there is no one in the space that hypes players up the way he does, the passion, the narratives and the storylines. I already know I’m about to watch a masterpiece
The GeT_RiGhT story is one of giving everything to be the greatest you can be. Your "Who is GeT_RiGhT" video from 2017 on his career is fantastic and well worth a watch if anyone hasn't seen it yet. As a side note with regards the point you made near the end, I remember a quote from a Reddit AMA you did a few years ago, where you wrote "If GeT_RiGhT had f0rest's aim, he would have been the most impossibly brilliant CS player imaginable."
Device is said to be the CSGO goat because he was top 5 (never number 1) from 2015 to 2020. GTR was #1 in 2009, 2012, 2013, 2014 and #2 in 2010 and 2011. You can't beat that.
dev1ce was godlike when cs was already much harder.back in the days cs level was much lower, same goes for astralis, there is a reason they are the goats and not fnatic.
This guy is so old now that people forgot when Get_Right first entered the scene he was considered a prodigy. This man started his pro career at the age of 13. By the age of 16 he was playing on one of the most legendary teams in CS history, NIP. Now look where we are, 18 years down the road when the journey first started, an E-Sports player staying relevant for 18 years, that's insane.
the thing with f0rest is that he had some negatives that holds him back from being the goat but the thing me and my friends say about him is that he has the smoothest playstyle ever. When he goes off it looks completely effortless. When s1mple goes off it looks incredible but he has kind of a shaky playstyle where he shakes his mouse when he gets kills with the awp. F0rest looks like he isn't even trying
ba1tple is shaky because he is no master of aim like f0rest is, f0rest is easily among the best aimers (not only in CS:GO/1.6), but overall in every single FPS game.
You're right about his smooth playstyle. It's one of those playstyles where if you were watching it without names you could recognize that it's f0rest. f0rest's smooth playstyle reminds me of this story I read about a long time ago about this Quake player in the 90's. He was trying to compete with this shitty mouse that had a low malfunction speed so if he swiped even marginally quick his crossair would spin out. I guess he couldn't afford a better one so he kept practicing with the one he had, getting used to moving it as slow as he could without it malfunctioning. Well after awhile he got really consistent at it and his playstyle was incredibly smooth and fun to watch for such a fast paced FPS.
The end of NiP and VP as we knew them has left a void that nobody has really been able to fill at least for me. Well, at least we still have remnants of Astralis and Fnatic to represent the old guard.
Would be interesting to hear Thooorins thought on the greatest Cs 1.6. cs:go and Cs duo. There are some really fun duo names in cs:go to discuss and maybie some fun history from the 1.3 - 1.6 times.
As an MMA enthusiast as well as a CS enthusiast....I appreciate your comparisons so much. You have such an analytical approach to these GOAT discussions!
It's a clip that GeT_RiGhT filmed for him. He wore the wig on stage for a pre-match interview against Team EnVyUs because he lost an aim map bet against NBK-. I think the event was FACEIT Stage 3 Finals / DreamHack Winter 2015 but not 100% sure.
@@davidcoulter1058 miss those days. Back in the early days the pros looked like they had fun. wearing horse masks or wigs and made bets with each other. nowadays it just feels boring (and im not talking about covid). loved to see cadian doing the horn thing and the iem sydney were fun because the casters and players made fun with each other. the other tournaments feels bland in comparrison.
What has stopped NEO from being the GOAT? Was he on a downward slope before CSGO or was it because of changes in the mechanics of the game between 1.6 and CSGO? If so, what mechanics changes made it unable for him to succeed in the way he did in 1.6?
It's skill ceiling. CS 1.6 has higher skill ceiling than CS GO because of the game bugs which NEO mastered really well. He skills used to get studied by other players. Higher skill ceiling means, there will be stark difference in levels of players. Whereas in CSGO players are not easy to differentiate if you leave S1mple aside.
3 i'd say. 2015 - 2017. In all of them he had 2-3 months where you could look at him and objectively say he was the best. 2015 late summer -> Cluj. 2016 he was hardcarrying the team but not quite the best, at the end when gla1ve came you could say he was the best and that went on for like 3-4 months until briefly after the major.
Considering that the AUG and the SG553 have been the best guns in CS:GO since 2014... no cs:go player has been the best using the best gun in the weapon until 2018 lol.
@@cinderella8187 The latest best team will always be better than the older best teams because they can study and improve on the tactics of every team before them.
@@cinderella8187sure if they played today's maps and game version, but put them against nip in their version of the game, they would get shat on no offense
The fact that the argument about being the goat is built behind being great in both 1.6 ond go is just stupid. Because there will never come more players that have been good in 1.6. Therefore making it impossible to be better than Forest, or as Thorin argues,. Getright.
@@saratchandrab4384 What impact? Always baiting, always last into the site. Lost 1v1s to Frod, Friis, Markeloff. How many majors did he win? You need 'resources' to play CS? Oh, you mean the usual Brazilian bitching about bad internet and "we will show you on LAN"? Yeah, they never did.
@@someonewhoisnotretarded3708 Yes I did. You talked about he baited and how he lsot to Markeloff in 1v1's. The thing is, cogu is easily among the hardest carry players in cs history.
2010 they lost to mouz squad with the pollac guy CYX who died in a car accident, idk if people remeber but he was way better than get_wrong any day... 2009 and 10 ez. these better player are kinda meh
How dare you mantion markeloff neo and forget trace .I remembered get right in the interview saying he wached the demos of him for angles and positioning
Ofcourse Thorin wouldnt pick device as the greatest CSGO player even though his criteria of greatness is evidently how decorated a player is and not how talented. Device is the most decorated CSGO player so he should be the greatest.
Say what you want about Thorin, there is no one in the space that hypes players up the way he does, the passion, the narratives and the storylines. I already know I’m about to watch a masterpiece
Yep. Extremely well spoken, confident in what he says and something satisfying about his voice.
No one in the space that hypes GamerSupps up the way he does
Look no further than K0nfig as a piece of evidence to back up this statement. Thorin "The Esports Historian" is so fitting.
better narratives than anyone else bc he's worked in the scene for so long
this point about peak years makes a lot of sense. also rip dosia when he watches this
lau bless
The GeT_RiGhT story is one of giving everything to be the greatest you can be. Your "Who is GeT_RiGhT" video from 2017 on his career is fantastic and well worth a watch if anyone hasn't seen it yet.
As a side note with regards the point you made near the end, I remember a quote from a Reddit AMA you did a few years ago, where you wrote "If GeT_RiGhT had f0rest's aim, he would have been the most impossibly brilliant CS player imaginable."
Simple now?
You gotta appreciate the ads. Thorin can literally say the same schtick each time but he decides to bless us with his creativity.
He's probably posting more Todo the ads😂
the intros are definitely shower/3am thoughts lol. i can imagine the "ahah!" moments.
Get right inspired me to get into esports
Device is said to be the CSGO goat because he was top 5 (never number 1) from 2015 to 2020.
GTR was #1 in 2009, 2012, 2013, 2014 and #2 in 2010 and 2011. You can't beat that.
You just said CSGO goat but you listed years where CSGO wasn’t even a game yet lol wtf
@@PandaXDVAL he didn't, the context is get right being thr greatest... Not only in CSGO
Crazy how forest is considered better than GTR........ Guess more about thr Eye test weightage like thorin says
dev1ce was godlike when cs was already much harder.back in the days cs level was much lower, same goes for astralis, there is a reason they are the goats and not fnatic.
@@noxe6413 Not true. 2009 to 2012 CS 1.6 level was very high.
This guy is so old now that people forgot when Get_Right first entered the scene he was considered a prodigy. This man started his pro career at the age of 13. By the age of 16 he was playing on one of the most legendary teams in CS history, NIP. Now look where we are, 18 years down the road when the journey first started, an E-Sports player staying relevant for 18 years, that's insane.
the thing with f0rest is that he had some negatives that holds him back from being the goat but the thing me and my friends say about him is that he has the smoothest playstyle ever. When he goes off it looks completely effortless. When s1mple goes off it looks incredible but he has kind of a shaky playstyle where he shakes his mouse when he gets kills with the awp. F0rest looks like he isn't even trying
S1mple shaky thing is just due to high sens, but I agree with the F0rest part!
@@marius3552 f0rest himself plays with high sens
@@Diavolo222 Lmao, I just checked and they actually play on almost the exact same sens!
ba1tple is shaky because he is no master of aim like f0rest is, f0rest is easily among the best aimers (not only in CS:GO/1.6), but overall in every single FPS game.
You're right about his smooth playstyle. It's one of those playstyles where if you were watching it without names you could recognize that it's f0rest.
f0rest's smooth playstyle reminds me of this story I read about a long time ago about this Quake player in the 90's. He was trying to compete with this shitty mouse that had a low malfunction speed so if he swiped even marginally quick his crossair would spin out. I guess he couldn't afford a better one so he kept practicing with the one he had, getting used to moving it as slow as he could without it malfunctioning. Well after awhile he got really consistent at it and his playstyle was incredibly smooth and fun to watch for such a fast paced FPS.
"Unparalleled consistency" no no no, I've been getting 24+ deaths every match I've ever played now that's consistency
Old NIP was the reason I got back into cs and the reason I still to this day avidly watch pro tournaments.
Get right also probably influenced/inspired the esports career of many swedish players who were bound to change csgo history
Not only swedish players... GTR was/is a inspiration to many!
When nip fell apart was the moment i stopped watching csgo, most of the time it was the most enjoyible playstyle
@Nis that was the painfull downfall
The end of NiP and VP as we knew them has left a void that nobody has really been able to fill at least for me. Well, at least we still have remnants of Astralis and Fnatic to represent the old guard.
@Nis but even with Them cs isn't what is was
Yes I will like if I agree
Would be interesting to hear Thooorins thought on the greatest Cs 1.6. cs:go and Cs duo. There are some really fun duo names in cs:go to discuss and maybie some fun history from the 1.3 - 1.6 times.
for duos it would probably be NEO and Taz for 1.6, and for cs:go it could be s1mple and electronic, dev1ce and dupreeh, coldzera and fallen
You completle right... none of these kids from today saw how fricking dominant gtr was.. he was insane
As an MMA enthusiast as well as a CS enthusiast....I appreciate your comparisons so much. You have such an analytical approach to these GOAT discussions!
At this point we're basically clicking these videos for the stuff tacked on after the brilliant ads in the beginning, hahah, good one. Keep it up!
"6 and two 3s" we say in Brazil like "trading six for half a dozen". Nice to see that the 6 metaphor is common elsewhere. lol
I remember watching this guy play in 2009 fnatic and it was bloody insane.
Lmaooo Thorin had me dying when he said among the mortals he was unbelievable skilled... s1mple is Alien, f0rest is a alien... man oh oh man
I think he means divine/godlike
F0rest is my favourite but the spray god is on top
f0rest is the CS GOAT for me but you can surely make arguments for GTR.
Other way around.
^ This
I definitely agree, GeT_Right is the greatest
I love the part where he says "I am biased toward get_right so he is the greatest"
brutal honesty
And hes an amazing community member still with us!
The MMA analogy is Bang On.. Great video
GTRs average level throughout different version of Counter Strike is just madness
Can someone refer me to where the intro video is from ??
It is hilarious to see GTR like that 😂
Its some Bruce Lee quote..at last half of it..with water and stuff
It's a clip that GeT_RiGhT filmed for him. He wore the wig on stage for a pre-match interview against Team EnVyUs because he lost an aim map bet against NBK-.
I think the event was FACEIT Stage 3 Finals / DreamHack Winter 2015 but not 100% sure.
@@davidcoulter1058 miss those days. Back in the early days the pros looked like they had fun. wearing horse masks or wigs and made bets with each other. nowadays it just feels boring (and im not talking about covid). loved to see cadian doing the horn thing and the iem sydney were fun because the casters and players made fun with each other. the other tournaments feels bland in comparrison.
Yesss, my favorite player of all time
You are really good at what u do thorin! Love the content !
No one:
Thooorin: *blinks*
Isn't this that valorant pro from the BBC interview?
what an intro already
God Tier Intro, thanks for the content
-Is Thorin my father?
-As it should be.
Get right was so good for so long
If they start a hall of fame, he is definitely first in
Great video, thanks for this.
What has stopped NEO from being the GOAT? Was he on a downward slope before CSGO or was it because of changes in the mechanics of the game between 1.6 and CSGO? If so, what mechanics changes made it unable for him to succeed in the way he did in 1.6?
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Probably the mechanics, remember NEO is a movement-based player. He does not have the same aiming skills as f0rest, but he's truly skilled.
It's skill ceiling. CS 1.6 has higher skill ceiling than CS GO because of the game bugs which NEO mastered really well. He skills used to get studied by other players. Higher skill ceiling means, there will be stark difference in levels of players.
Whereas in CSGO players are not easy to differentiate if you leave S1mple aside.
Greatest of all time or not at certain points of CSGO Get_Right broke the game in his role.
How many years does device have as a best player contender cause although he is top 3 a lot he isn't always a contender?
3 i'd say. 2015 - 2017. In all of them he had 2-3 months where you could look at him and objectively say he was the best. 2015 late summer -> Cluj. 2016 he was hardcarrying the team but not quite the best, at the end when gla1ve came you could say he was the best and that went on for like 3-4 months until briefly after the major.
Now think of the fact that GeT_RiGhT was this good across two titles - while literally never playing with the _best gun_ in either game.
Considering that the AUG and the SG553 have been the best guns in CS:GO since 2014... no cs:go player has been the best using the best gun in the weapon until 2018 lol.
Name someone that plugs sponsors better than Thorin ill wait!
Thoorin. The calypso lemonade is grade A
never stop talking about 1.6, for my sake
it would be nice to see an episode about Bruce Lee ! 💖
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in a lower level of cs, against teams that would get 16-0 by the 10th best team today
@@cinderella8187 The latest best team will always be better than the older best teams because they can study and improve on the tactics of every team before them.
@@Jerome-iwnl Yeah that proves my point even more, pros that compete and are good now, have a higher skill cieling than pros from before.
@@cinderella8187sure if they played today's maps and game version, but put them against nip in their version of the game, they would get shat on no offense
you never escape get right
Godtier ads as always.
GeT_HeatoN?
GeT_RiGhT 😍
The fact that the argument about being the goat is built behind being great in both 1.6 ond go is just stupid. Because there will never come more players that have been good in 1.6. Therefore making it impossible to be better than Forest, or as Thorin argues,. Getright.
Who cares about 1.6 now? Csgo will be active more than 1.6 soon and its a much better game and much more competitive scene.
f0rest higher rating & kdr over more matches played.
Remember, you are watching someone who thinks that Cogu was the best sniper ever.
He knows markeloff was better.....but in terms of resources provided to him correlating with the impact he had.........
@@saratchandrab4384 What impact? Always baiting, always last into the site. Lost 1v1s to Frod, Friis, Markeloff. How many majors did he win?
You need 'resources' to play CS? Oh, you mean the usual Brazilian bitching about bad internet and "we will show you on LAN"? Yeah, they never did.
Cogu is easily the best awper if you factor consistency. With the team he had it's nearly impossible to win majors.
@@crymeariver9141 You obviously did not read what I wrote above or ever seen his demos.
@@someonewhoisnotretarded3708
Yes I did. You talked about he baited and how he lsot to Markeloff in 1v1's. The thing is, cogu is easily among the hardest carry players in cs history.
GeT_RiGhT
Wasn’t Thorin saying s1mple was the GOAT for like the last 4 years
As he says in the video more than 1 time, he thinks that s1mple is the GOAT of CSGO.
This video is combining CSGO and 1.6
If your a top 5 player right now in csgo, you would be the best player in 1.6, the skill cieling is much higher now
@@cinderella8187 different games. Some CSGO legends played 1.6 but weren’t top at it. You can’t guarantee all top go players would be top in 1.6
the beginning lololololol
2010 they lost to mouz squad with the pollac guy CYX who died in a car accident, idk if people remeber but he was way better than get_wrong any day... 2009 and 10 ez. these better player are kinda meh
Nah mate. He is just not close
GTR is the goat
How dare you mantion markeloff neo and forget trace .I remembered get right in the interview saying he wached the demos of him for angles and positioning
f0rest will always be the GOAT:))Get right never had that power to be the goat hes a crybaby.ne0 comes close but hes not good enough in GO version
True. f0rest is the best counter strike franchise player ever, not ba1tple.
Ofcourse Thorin wouldnt pick device as the greatest CSGO player even though his criteria of greatness is evidently how decorated a player is and not how talented. Device is the most decorated CSGO player so he should be the greatest.
It's more of a mix of it, although yeah dev1ce is among the players with the most Mvp's
lol
CS 1.6 - Neo
CS:GO - Zyw0o
End of story
Simple
Yes!
Neo > all Swedish 1.6 players.
That's what Thorin says as well
I'm just a pleb but no, I disagree.
What happen-ed in 1.6 happen-ed and what happen-ed in CSGO happen-ed and here we are. We are in Valorant.
This video, content wise, is not supposed to be longer than 1 minute.