This reaction was a WRECK! Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) ULTIMATE EDITION
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Look at what Alfred said to Bruce. The fever, the rage, feeling of powerlessness is what turns good men cruel. That's what Bruce felt when his parents were killed. He spent decades fighting all sort of things but Black Zero event took him right back to his trauma. People were dieing around him and he was powerless. Every nightmare he has - you can hear the sound of Word Engine in the background. Pure PTSD clouding his judgments to the point he doesn't want to hear or see anything else.
He's in the wrong and almost a villian for the majority of the movie and has to redeem himself next
You got it, you're watching the right version! Always check the run time if unsure. You should watch Wonder Woman next.
Alfred is the voice of Scar from the lion king
My mind = blown 😂
Among other things...
he play in Lolita 1997 😁
This Batman is based off of "the Dark Knight" comics. In the Batman movies you've seen before he has killed people, but they don't make it seem like he has.
Anywho, Ben Afflecks Batman has been Batman for over 20 years vs Christian Bale who had been Batman 3+ years by the end. He's fought many villains, including the Joker (hinted at by him saying they don't trust clowns in Gotham), and the Batman suit all painted with "ha ha,.jokes on you Batman" was painted on that suit when Joker killed his sidekick Robin. To put that in perspective for all you MCU fans, this is basically if Zemo killed Spiderman and sent his body to Stark Tower with a note to Ironman. That would break him as a character!!! He had PTSD from the NYC battle in 2012 that almost ruined him in Ironman 3. At that point he killed henchmen with a machine gun for breaking a plastic dorra watch. Now imagine what Ironman would do if Spiderman, his trainee, was killed because of him. How would that affect him?
Then many years later with all that anger still built up, let's say MCU Captain Marvel came to earth and saved the world but destroyed a city in the process. Would a broken and angry Ironman be happy about that? Would he trust Captain Marvel to do the right thing or see her as a threat?
The line "even if there's a 1% chance we have to treat that as an absolute" is a point in statistics and psychology. Think of it as a chance of a bear being in a cave and you walk into it. There's a 1% chance it kills you, or you can just leave it. But off you leave it, what if the bear leaves the cave and goes on a killing spree in your neighborhood? That might only be a 1% chance, but if you have the chance to take down the bear and save countless lives, wouldn't it be worth killing it? (I'm not arguing either way, just making a point)
So the moral of my comment is "is Batman acting out of character?" Nope, as this is based off of the dark Knight comics, so any criticism against this character goes to the source material. Also, this character has been through emotional h*** and back. The Amazing Spiderman admits to having stopped pulling his punches after Gwen died. If Spiderman can get sympathy for doing the same thing, why can't Batman? (Because the ignorant can't think critically.)
Perfectly explained. Better than what I was going to say. Keaton's Batman killed. What I love about this movie is if all powerful Alien was suddenly among us? Half the world would freak out! If this was real life people would freak! A lot of people would be afraid of Superman. That News reel footage of people discussing should there be a Superman. The most realistic Superhero moment put to film.
Live action Batman is a total joke compared to DCAU Batman. The DCAU handled DC's heroes way better than live action ever did.
The "1%" line is classic risk analysis. Some things present an incredibly low chance of happening, btu if they do the effects are cataclysmic. For example, the odds of a stray asteroid striking the Earth are a small fraction of 1%, but if it happened it could wipe out civilization, so we spend a lot of money watching far out and tracking object trajectories to try and be better prepared if it looks like that might happen. Yes, 1% seems like very low odds, but if Superman goes off the rails everyone looses.
The part of the equation that Bruce wasn't accounting for is what are the costs of not having a Superman. The realization that the Earth avoided the threat of Doomsday solely because of Superman's existence is what finally shifts the balance of his thinking.
We did see Iron Man at his worst it's called Infinity War after peter dusted away he fell into a deep state of depression and wasn't even in a state of vengeance.
The reason Batman wanted Superman gone is because he knows if he ever lost control, he could end everything. He’s an ultimate power that nobody can do anything about. He saw first hand what happens just from a fist fight from more of Supermans people, who came because of him. He also got it confirmed from his dream, Superman can lose it if the few things that teather him to humanity is Lois and his mom. If they were killed, Superman could become authoritarian and ends always justify means. End war through total planetary subjugation. What does he care? He isn’t held to a humanity standard anymore. He’s the ultimate power. Batman doesn’t hate Superman, he just knows exactly what could happen to someone with ultimate power.
You're right. Nevertheless, Zack Snyder wrote Batman completely wrong. He didn't understand the Batman character. Because with these reasons, Batman would never have tried to kill Superman. A Batman would never have acted like that.
That's why I'm glad that James Gunn has now taken over the DCU.
@@alfwinch24 wow u ppl are so bitter, he didnt write it wrong, i cant belive u crybabies love to gatekeep what is or isnt batman, batfleck isnt the comic version and u forgot WE HAVE MULTIVERSE, so we can create different version of the same character so stop claiming your ideal version is the 'real version' as batman has changed over the years and some of us enjoyed this version.
@@da-vidcargill4975Agreed
You watched the proper 3h version ;) Just make sure you'll watch the TRUE 4h cut of Zack Snyder's Justice League (and not the 2h cut)
I agree you should watch the Zack Snyder cut or Justice League. Even though it is longer it's by far better pace and a much better film
I watched the extended cut of Justice League. I swear the extra 2 hours was all...of...the...slow...motion...scenes. It made sense for the Flash stuff, but everything else was unnecessary.
@@tonytheriault1186 ur dumb bro
Make sure you watch the full length Justice League the Snyder cut!!! ONLY
@@tonytheriault1186 You might want to watch that again because you're talking out of your ass, brother. The Snyder Cut of Justice League is a completely different movie in tone and exposition.
You've started the movie with the false assumption that you wouldn't understand parts of the film because you thought you watched a wrong version... And ended up confused by scenes that just didn't matter. And no, you don't need to watch older Wonder Woman shows to appreciate WW in this film and the next one. The Wonder Woman movie is a wonderful introduction to the character and gives all the background you'll need. You'll LOVE it.
Zack originally wanted the audience to assume it’s Selena Kyle.
Until the air hostess calls her Ms Prince.
You're talking about a girl who at 16:09 is repeatedly asking why Henry Cavill was topless. As if the concept of taking one's top off for $$$ is somehow baffling to her. I don't know if she was asking that question as a joke... but the irony of an OF model asking that question was kinda hilarious.
“I bet your parents taught you that you mean something, that you're here for a reason. My parents taught me a different lesson... dying in the gutter for no reason at all."
My favorite line in this movie
There's a lot of banger dialog in this movie.
I like “this is how it all CAVES in, civilization on the WAYNE, MANNERS, out the window. But who would believe me anyway, I’m insane.”
I can’t believe they cut out caves Wayne manners but in the theatrical cut.
Such a cool and stylish way of Lex telling him he knows his identity.
@@jimmy2k4o I've never heard this, but I've watched movie 10-11 times, when does he say this?
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During the scene where he visits Lex in prison.
Link above.
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When Bruce visits Lex in jail
Bruce was angry after seeing superman fight zod and during that many died!
Then because of him, again, people died in the explosion!
Plus this is an angry messed up version of batman! he lost everyone in his life! and he fears that superman could destroy the world! And again was tricked by lex into thinking Superman is kinda like devil!
"Batman wouldn't be vengeful" 😂😂😂
*BATMAN is all about VENGEANCE*
Henry Cavill's shirt comes off for an extra million bucks in his contract... Trixy will take it off for an extra hundred bucks on OF. And she was baffled as to why they included that scene ( 16:08 ). I wouldn't try to explain character motivation to her.
Batman blamed Superman for the events in Metropolis where thousands of people died. And overall Batman doesn't trust many people let alone aliens. And as he told Clark, in Gotham they have experience with creatures that dress like clowns.
So Batman blames Superman for causing a building to collapse, even though he saved the entire city and maybe planet? Is Batman stupid???
@@erosgritti5171 Not Batman, but maybe you. It was because of him that Zod flew to Earth, putting the entire planet in danger.
@@nedvva 1 Batman didn't know anything about ZOD, Batman didn't see the superman movie, he can't know the cause and effect connections
2 Batman would never blame someone because he is an alien. That hasn't been the characterization of Batman in at least 80 years
3 Insulting does not give more strength to your opinions
@@erosgritti5171 "that son of bitch brought the war to us 2 years ago."?????
Batman certainly hasn't learned anything at all in the almost 2 years.
You're trying to explain character motivations to her? She's an OF model that was baffled as to why Henry Cavill was shirtless ( 16:07 ). Oh the hilarious irony.
You probably weren't paying attention because your mind was distracted. I thought it was pretty obvious on Batman's motivation in the movie's beginning?
Batman didn't fight Superman because he felt 'insecure' lol. He saw the dangerous potential of Superman during the battle of Metropolis with Zod. So rather risking another destruction, Batman felt that he should remove Superman instead.
She went through the entire plot which clearly explained and even spoonfed us into why Batman is going up against Superman and she still didn't get it. 😂😂😂 And I thought I was the least observant and quite the dull one for missing stuff when watching a movie. 😂😂
I'd just add that Bruce didn't see Superman's humanity and discovering that a human mother had raised him (and just happened to have the same name as his own mother) made Bruce question his own motives. You know, the Martha of it all. Some people were bothered by that, but I wasn't.
He also thought Superman destroyed the capital too. Everything Lex did that make Superman look bad added to it
@@smdias65 I wasn't bothered with that as well. At first it was jarring, and mindblowing because I'm a Batman fan and didn't realize that they shared the same mother's name. And yes basically Batman finally sees that despite Superman's alien origin, at the end of the day he was just a boy from Kansas, with a human mother.
And ALSO, this is Batman's redemption story because he was unable to save HIS Martha, but now he can save this Martha. Pretty poetic.
@@AshrafAnam You'd be surprised. After observing a number of BvS reactions out there...I'm surprised on how many reactors missed the crucial points of the story (especially the tricky 'Martha' part. That part just went over their head most of the time) 🤔
This is the extended cut
45:21 _The kryptonite had weakened him, which is the reason he could not withstand the blast_
47:21 _they don’t know that his powers come from the sun, and that the sun can heal him_
21:31 that's Robin's suit, Robin was killed by Joker Brutally.
*Who the hell said watch Wonder Woman first?* THIS is where she is first introduced. You should check the years the movies came out before reacting.
If some one shows up to your neck of the woods and starts dropping buildings, killing countless of your people and none of that would of happened if that same person never showed up. Watching what you love being actively destroyed, maybe that's why Batman wanted him dead in the beginning. Imagine.
An invading army destroys entire neighborhood. A resourceful guy who lived there goes up against the army.
Her: I just don't get why he would go up against the army! I didn't know he was so vengeful. Why is he so insecure about the army being more resourceful than him?
😂😂😂
That’s not precisely it. Yes he was obviously horrified by what happened, but he knows that superman chooses to be good, but if he ever became not good that’s the end of everything. It’s the ultimate power in the hands of one guy who isn’t particularly special, and can be twisted or motivated to do evil in the name of good. Batman is extremely practical and knows exactly what happens when someone has that kind of power, confirmed by his dream, which was actually a vision of a possible future. This is all fleshed out in the comics, unfortunately the movies have to sort of spoon feed people obvious things because they miss the subtleties and underlying motivations. Batman doesn’t hate Superman personally, just what he has and that he is just a seemingly weak man inside that will come out in world ending ways if pushed too far.
When you watch Justice League, make sure it is Zach Snyder's Justice League and not the theatrical release that was butchered by Joss Whedon. Watch Wonder Woman next and then Zach Snyder's Justice League. Batman blamed Superman for the destruction of Metropolis in Man of Steel.
When I saw Zach's version I kept rubbing my eyes I could believe what I was seeing. They should have left him alone to make his 5 film storyline. That they released that shit theatre version! WB assholes!
I saw the theatrical release and, at the time, was ok with it. I’d been waiting for that movie for decades. When I saw Zach’s movie, I immediately called my buddy and told him, “If you haven’t seen the Snyder cut, you haven’t seen the Justice League.”
Batman fight Superman cause he think he's reckless and an liability to the safety of humanity. Just in the begining, Superman destroy a city to stop one single enemie. Of course, it was not he's choice, but Superman dosen't seem to care in Batman's eyes (because of Lex and his plan to dupe everyone). Also, this Batman, he's an old one, one that have seen a lot of bat sh*t (like the Joker painting, reference to the Joker killing Robin). So yes, this is a hurt Batman with wisdom, but also rage.
(1) You definitely watched the Ultimate Edition here: I could tell from the Drone Strike at the Beginning.
(2) Joker's Spray-Paint on Robin's Suit is an "Easter Egg" reference to one specific Batman Story: "A Death in the Family."
(3) If You're really-such a Car Girl then why did You Stop Reacting to "The Fast and the Furious?" I really Enjoyed those...
There's like a million fast movies and they all have the same basic story
Bruce motivation to stop Superman because he's can pose a threat to the entire world is on par with the character but instead of his motivation being built over the course of other movie installments. It was shoehorn into the second movie of the franchise when it should have been the 4th. Bruce thinks everyone is a threat so he has ways to take down not just super villains but also all the heroes on the Justice League.
i prefer this batman because hes seasoned. he spent years as batman and it turned him into someone that doesnt hold back.
And it's not just that he's seasoned, THIS IS THE BATMAN. The Dark Knight Trilogy or The Batman did not portray him accurately.
Also people hate on batfleck for killing but bale, Keaton and Kilmer killed people. Only Adam west, George Clooney and Robert Pattinson didn’t kill anyone.
@@AshrafAnamBatman The Animated Series is THE BATMAN. This is Snyder putting the Punisher in a Batman mask. His recent comments basically confirmed that he doesn't understand Batman.
The Dark Knight is Nolan wanting to a James Bond movie and a psychological crime drama with a few characters in costumes.
The Batman is close but he hasn't developed the Bruce Wayne persona for the general public and only into his second year of a masked persona.
@@jessecortez9449 DCAU Batman is the goat he solos every live action version
@@jessecortez9449 The Punisher? That's bullshit. Batman has blown up cars in the comics countless times and the people in those cars obviously died. The only time Batman uses a gun on a person in this movie is an apocalyptic dream sequence. He's absolutely nothing like The Punisher. That's just delusional, man. This is all comic accurate. After The Killing Joke and Death In The Family, Bruce lost himself. He became reckless and much more violent. That's the whole reason Tim Drake basically forced himself into the Robin mantel. He felt like Batman needed a Robin to balance him back out. Lay off the cartoons and read some comics, man.
It’s like we watched different movies 😂😂
25:26 Dreams don't blow papers around.
One of the big problems of a Superman vs Batman fight is the question of “how is even a equal match?” Superman is obviously the greatest fighter.
But Superman can lose by holding back his strength, because he’s fundamentally a very decent person.
And Batman stands a chance because he would go to any lengths, hold nothing back. Because at his core, Batman is a bad person.
In the graphic novel that partially inspired this movie, Bruce Wayne explains that he knows he’s a criminal, all superheroes are criminals. It’s against the law to do the things that they do. And Bruce acknowledged that. But he also said Clark Kent justified himself by aligning with the US government, and by obeying the government, he was “good”.
Batman and Superman twice are villain for each other in this movie. The warehouse scene was so reminiscent of the Arkham Knight game where Batman can take down lots of guys
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45:51 I simply LOVED when Wonder Woman showed up
That moment when you realize that you accomplished what you were trying to do by accident. 😂😂😂
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"They should form a league, a Justice League" that was the most adorable thing I've seen in awhile.
An invading army destroys entire neighborhood. A resourceful guy who lived there goes up against the army.
Her: I just don't get why he would go up against the army! I didn't know he was so vengeful. Why is he so insecure about the army being more resourceful than him.
😂😂😂
Blue you are so wonderfully, beautifully, adorably you. I hope that make sense. Love that you were able to watch the extended version after all. Perhaps the connection you are missing as the reason Batman wants to take down Superman is in that early scene. Bruce was in the city that Superman fought Zod in from the first movie. He saw first hand how dangerous and destructive a Superman level fight could be. Bruce doesn't see Superman as a hero. Just powerful and dangerous. Perhaps It would help to know that in the comics Batman has contingencies for stopping each of the Justice League members if it should ever come to that.
For me, Batman is very in character here. In comics he has contingency plans against every member of the league in case they become evil. And for him, Superman could become evil in any second. He lost a lot of people at the battle of Metropolis. So he has taken as his mission to avenge his "family" and save the world.
After 20 years in Gotham he hasn't seen a big difference in crime slowing down. New bad guys always appear. But there is only one Superman. He was indeed gonna kill him. His first cold blooded murder. But for stopped and realise Superman was just a guy worried about his own mom', human mom, safety. For him Superman was just an alien until that moment.
But it was a good reaction still!! Glad you still liked it she enjoyed it!
Now Wonder Woman, Suicide Squad Extended Edition (although it is still not the true director's vision, so you can skip it if you want) and then Zack Snyder's Justice League. A four hour epic!
11:25 they said it was an unmanned drone. It was trying to bomb the place Lois was at, so it’s kind of expected Supes blew it up.
They mashed several comic book storylines into this one. Animated DC movies don’t do that and usually follow comics more properly. Highly recommend you look into them.
As i was watching you i was thinking, strange these scenes are in the extended edition.. until the great reveal lol
You made my evening 😂
This Batman IS here since 20 years, a Robin was killed by Joker. He IS tired and angry and a little paranoïd.
In comics, in an anime, he is even prepared to fight against everyone members of the justice league. just Because he is Batman
Batman is in every sense of the word,is a "Dark Knight". And even amongst his own team members, he's always had a contingency plan of how to take his teammates down. Superman attacked him first. Superman thought he could intimidate Batman he was so wrong.
I think one thinkg to understand about this particualr version of Batman is that he's like 20, 25 years into his career as the dark knight and his experiences have changed & molded him into what he is now. The destruction of his building in Metropolis, the loss of Robin, a countless number of things we can't possibly know have shaped experiences that have turned him into a bit of a bitter, ruthless and calculating man.
Earlier in the film (a scene I that was notably missing from the YT cut of thie reaction) he tells Alfred "Twenty years in Gotham, Alfred; we've seen what promises are worth. How many good guys are left? How many stayed that way?" It's not super hard to imagine how he ended up so cruel and bitter.
I think it also informs how he sees Superman. Sure, today the guy saving exploded space shuttles and people from disatrousfloods. What happens when he suffers a deep loss. Feels pain the way that Batman has? That Superman is a global threat. A threat with no discernible means of being stopped. The Knightmare dream sequence kinda nails that point home.
It takes nearly killing him and learning that Clark's mother shares his mother's name. It finally makes Brucerealize that this larger than life alien is far more human than he will ever be. Kinda kickstarts his old self. I think on paper it's a good arc for Bruce. The execution leaves a lot to be desired
Watching Wonder Woman after this makes more sense anyway it came out the following year.
Great reaction Blue! Here’s a little something for your troubles, but I’m so glad that you did get the Ultimate Edition after all… But yeah you got it right about Batman in the end. He mentions that he’s been at it for 20 years already, with Robin being killed by the Joker(that’s the suit with the Joker writing that Bruce was looking at in the batcave), and allies turning bad over the years. Those reasons, and the Krytonians’ destruction to Metropolis is why he didn’t trust Superman, and that’s why he had lost faith in the world and was so violent and merciless towards criminals. In all the other Batman movies, he’s just getting started or a few years into it as Batman, so we hardly ever see him dealing with all the losses and hopelessness. Also don’t forget Suicide Squad extended cut, which came out a year before Wonder Woman, and takes place in the time after Superman’s death. 💙
Hearing you mention vengeance and Batman made me realize you definitely need to watch The Batman with Robert Pattenson.
Trxy: You are Team Deadpool. That is your humor.
You shouldn't at least overlook the on-screen title of the movie even if you do that with the opening credits. It clearly says *ULTIMATE EDITION* in the title. 🤦♂️
Lol, she went into this with a negative mindset.
43:35 nah many of these guys are dead or near death after Batman is done.
There is a British TH-camr who is also a medical doctor. On his channel he actually reviews action movie fight scenes and describes the real world consequences. He watched this scene and started listing out all of the physical traumas inflicted. By the end of the video he was like “None of these people is getting up and walking away. The lucky ones will survive long enough to make it to the emergency room”
"Why is everyone in this movie attractive?"
Every SUPERHERO in the comics basically has supermodel good looks.
Batman 🦇🖤
Are you sure about Superman being more stable? Can you imagine what it's like to spend your entire life keeping a tight control on every emotion, every impulse because the slightest mis-step could mean you might murder somebody by accident? That's on top of the same trauma that every child goes thru when learning they're adopted at a young age, and not even knowing who their parents are or why they left. Only in his case that's multiplied by a billion because he wasn't just abandoned by his parents, but by his whole world. Yes he learns the truth eventually but that never fully erases the trauma of the past. Not to mention it's never easy to stradle two worlds (in this case both literally and figuratively) and to live two lives. We all have trauma, that's just life. Superman's is pretty unique to him but it's still there. And when somebody keeping themselves under tight control finally breaks...
I'm not sure if I've even seen the extended version, but you must watch the movie for the introduction of Wonder Woman, and as far as it being the United States fault you can't get it...I guarantee it's your Countries decision, America has no problem sharing its entertainment with the rest of the world.
I’ve been with you since the beginning and to be honest I didn’t think you’d make it. However You have evolved into one of my favorite reviewers. I follow hundreds and you are in my top ten now, maybe five. Keep being genuine and don’t get arrogant like so many others. Sincerity rules.
Batman already feared/hated Superman due to the destruction of Metropolis in the first Superman movie. Also, Bruce failing to save his people, his employees and whatnot, is reflective of the fact that Bruce requesting to leave the opera show early led to his parents getting killed. Bruce blames himself for their deaths and the deaths of his people working in Metropolis. Then all of that turns into anger towards Superman. This is underlined again by the fact that he had no idea one of his employees, whom he saved during the Metropolis attack, was mentally suffering and hated Superman only to blow himself up. Was it to try and kill Superman? Was it to send a message to Bruce? Either way, Bruce again blames himself for the Capital bombing and again that anger is directed at Superman - did he see something but not do anything? Was he too indifferent to the people to care about saving them?
Superman thinks that Batman's form of vigilante justice is inhumane and brutal. Batman started branding people? And then, on top of that, anyone with the branding was murdered - did Batman brand them for that purpose? To target them for murder because they snitched to Batman? 'This guy snitched so I branded him so when he's in prison others know he snitched and they will kill him and I see that as justice' is what Superman thinks Batman is doing. That's why Superman kicked the Batmobile to the curb and threatened him - something that further resolves Batman into believing Superman is too powerful to not be a threat if he ever turned against humanity. Then Lex finds Superman's ultimate weakness - how to destroy his image. You see, God is either all-powerful or all-good, and the same goes for Superman. By kidnapping his mother and saying 'Go kill Batman' he puts Superman in an impossible place. Either kill the Batman and prove to the world you are not all-good, and therefore lose humanity's trust. When that happens, Lex will be granted his silver bullet of Kryptonite to go kill Superman. OR go and fail to kill Batman, who uses kryptonite to kill Superman. And now Lex doesn't have to lift a finger. Either way, Superman loses.
For you and I we think this is all simple - that heroes just need to tell other people 'I'm a hero' and suddenly everyone is friendly and its all good. But the real way the world works is that the world is not split into black and white. There are more than 2 ideaologies beyond 'good' and 'evil' there are infinite amounts of grey zones in between. Superman could have no way of knowing Batman's intentions and vice versa.
I just found this one tonight; Blue, you have never been cuter than at the 34 minute mark...😂😂😂
“So he’s like a genius, but he’s a psycho” Pretty much. The Lex Luthor in this version might as well be Joker without the makeup and purple suit. 😅
You don't know the Joker if you say this. This is nowhere close to the Joker. This is a young hot headed inexperienced version of Luthor and also a throwback to the original Luthor. He has all the characteristics of Luthor in the comics: genius, megalomaniacal, mad scientist, Machiavellian, manipulative, egoistic with a deep personal hatred for Superman. He sees humans as having greater potential than the alien and meta heroes.
@@AshrafAnamhe’s also based off Lex in Superman: birthright
Who was manic and had long red hair.
Someone probably already said this, but I'm not going to read all the comments to find out...
Blue, Batman hates Superman at the beginning of this movie because he blames Superman for the destruction and death in Metropolis caused when Superman was fighting General Zod in Man of Steel. In the flashbacks, Bruce was watching that final battle between Zod and Superman.
This is a batman who lost his way.. the detail shown is the Robin suit in the Batcave with the jokers writing "hahaha the jokes on you" in this world, joker killed Robin and batman abandoned his morals and started killing villains.
He feels superman shouldn't exist in case he goes bad one day; they won't be able to stop him.
This is explained when batman talks to Alfred about if there's a 1% chance superman can turn evil then treat it like an absolute
There's a story in DC where a young Bruce Wayne is studying to become a lawyer and learns that there's a difference between the law and justice that aren't compatible. Bruce cannot fight against crime using the courts or the system because not everyone is held accountable nor are they held to the same standards under those laws and institutions. As Batman, he feels that he's human but the idea of Superman comes down to accountability. With Superman's power there's a heavy toll everyone human and mortal around him pays. Yes, Superman can save kittens from trees and orphans from burning buildings and stop missiles from hitting innocent villages, but if anything equal to him proposes a threat there's a chance many people will become casualties. For Bruce and Batman alike, the world is already destructive and hostile enough as it is, was, and always will be. Adding meta-humans like Superman felt like an imbalance that needed correcting. A threat that could get ugly if it wasn't fixed beforehand. Hence, the "Knightmares" he'd been having of a future of an authoritarian state of Superman. Bruce has a dark, pessimistic outlook on everything because he's only known and experienced the worst that humanity has to offer his entire life practically.
batman was mad at superman because he saw the fight between superman and zod. he saw all the death that came from it and took it personal
Batman never trusted Superman. Batman doesn't trust anyone. He in fact has secret plans for defeat every member of the Justice League, just in case. But among all he fears Superman the most because he's like a god. If Superman loses control, the earth will be in trouble (Just as it happens in "Injustice: Gods among us" comic).
In case nobody else mentioned it, the outfit in Bruce's cave that you saw, was the outfit that Robin was in when he was murdered by the joker! This is a much older and different Batman than you have seen before. And the previous Batman movies are not in the same continuity as this movie. This Batman is very much like Batman was in a certain run of the comic. I think he started killing people after Robin was murdered. And also this is not the first version of Batman that killed people. The Tim Burton version killed quite a few people in the first two movies. People tend to forget about that when they are talking about Batman movies. But when you shove a bum down somebody's pants and push them off the top of a building, that tends to kill them. You really should watch the Tim Burton ones I think you would have a lot of fun with them. And you should also watch the Wonder woman and the Aquaman movie as they are directly connected to this movie. And you definitely should see Wonder woman before seeing the Justice League movie, because it directly references things that happened in The Wonder woman movie.
Hahaha. Now u understand the "Granny peach tea" I made reference to, and thanks for acknowledgeding it.
Batman is VERY vengeful and angry.... Those are his defining traits. He'll beat the crap out of criminals. But he doesn't kill. That's the one thing the won't do.
The movie was a confusing for sure. But I love these movies. Especially when all three heroes gathered.
Well done. Enjoying your reactions. 🙏🏻
She was exceptional in, Arrival!
Batman's motivation is not insecurity.
You saw all the dialog in the Man of Steel movie, but from an external observer, Superman just destroyed lives with his fights and superpowers. I think the desire of Bruce Wane to kill Superman did not start when Superman destroyed the Batmobile, but when Bruce was holding the girl pointing at the collapsed building when asked where her mom was.
The most out of character thing these movies have, is Clark Kent's personality basically being Superman with glasses. Clark is supposed to be a completely different character and voice intonation, so if you hear Superman's voice and you know Clark, you are not supposed to know they are the same.
I think the best thing to do is watching the movies in release order. Wonder Woman is next. In this movie they introduce her as a mystery and a surprise, if you have watched Wonder Woman first, all the surprise would be gone.
Money really does have nobodies changing up these days. It’s funny 😂
Like the ancient bizzaro world, and that Superman , Gotham is the opposite of metropolis!
This Batman is very much a grizzled veteran where he has spent a good majority of his life not only as being Batman, but continually watching friends and allies fall around him. While you're right about Batman not killing, this is an older more seasoned Batman who has kind of had enough.
Also, this is just my opinion, but the Snyder Cut of Justice League is where it's at. It's a long movie but it is so completely worth it. The first version that came out was kind of...wonky because Zack Snyder had to leave the movie because of a personal tragedy in his life and the director they hired to finish the movie truly cut Snyders' vision. Zack later came back after the movie came out and got some...crappy reviews to redo the entire movie and bring his vision to fruition.
he wants to fight him cause he thought superman is a villain
Just an FYI, when a movie is banned in a region, it's not because the US is claiming the rights to it. It's because the country you're in has taken legal action to have the movie banned. Trust me. They want your money and they would take it if your government allowed it.
I can't believe you watched the theatrical version. Look, the Ultimate Edition of Batman v Superman isn't just an extended cut, it's the complete movie. A week before its theatrical release, Warner Bros made Zack Snyder cut over 30 minutes of crucial parts from the film. That's why after the Ultimate Edition came out, many critics apologized to Snyder. If you couldn't buy it, watch it pirated, but never watch the theatrical version. Here in Brazil, they don't even sell the theatrical version anymore; only the Ultimate Edition is available. Wow, I'm not going to watch that reaction, unfortunately. I'm too sad now.
WAIT, YOU WATCH IT THE ULTIMATE EDITION!!!!! WTFFFFFFFFF, YOU WATCH THE RIGHT VERSION. HOLY SHITTTTT FORGET WHAT I SAID
Batman generally doesn't kill or carry a gun. But the truth is Batman has killed. Batman 1989 Michael Keaton has killed. So has the Christain Bale Dark Knight Nolan trilogy of Batman.
And if folks want to argue about Superman, the Christopher Reeve Superman killed Zod as well as the Henry Cavill Superman has killed Zod. But as a rule. These heroes don't generally kill. Certainly never the first choice. -OG
The Joker's writing on the old suit of Robin. A reminder to Batman that The Joker killed Robin.
The biggest difference between this Batman and all the other Batman films you've watched, Trixie, is that the. Ben Affleck Batman is an older seasoned Batman who has already been fighting crime for 20 years.
As a result, he's grown hard. A little numb from right and wrong. He's turned cruel. -OG
BATMAN: WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!!!
22:36 In this continuity, Bruce Wayne has been Batman for over 10 years. I’m thinking close to 20 years. Plus he grew up in Gotham. So the dots would need some filler to be connected back to him.
Why has the Justice League movie been moved to the members side of the channel? Now the normal non-paying subscribers can no longer see it.
Never listen to the Comments - sincerely, the Comments
Nolan's Batman kills 37 people in the three films. His career is TWO years and then he retires and gets married.
He was mad because of all the destruction caused by the kryptonians
Also a nuclear bo😢 was considered justice at one point and superman was always a time bomb
One of the things that most people miss about Bruce's hatred towards Superman is that Zod flat out said that Kal El FLED to Earth and had been hiding among them. Not that he was sent there as a baby and grew up AS one of them. Bruce even says, "He brought the war to US."
Also, a lot of people miss this little fact. Superman ALLOWED Bruce to threaten him with the spear instead of fighting back. At the beginning of the fight, he bent the solid steel gauntlet on Bruce's left forearm AFTER getting dosed with Kryptonite gas. He had plenty of time between the last time he was dosed and when Bruce was standing above him to work the gas out of his system, so it was just the spear that was causing him pain, but we saw later that he was able to fly while holding the spear and ram it into and through Doomsday while being in close proximity to Kryptonite AND being impaled through the heart by Doomsday. He could have easily launched Bruce away and continued the fight if he had wanted to. He wanted to reach Bruce and so used Martha's name, having researched Bruce after finding out his name at the party and finding out he was Batman and then researching Batman for his story that Perry killed.
41:01 Actually Lex in many of the modern telling is insecure. Lex is wealthy and genius level intellect. He thought he was the ultimate man. Then Superman shows up and can do things with a wave of his hand that Lex can never do.
Shame not to have
David Ayer's cut of Suicide Squad to be seen after Batman v Superman.
LOL! I find your frustration with anguish DELICIOUS! 🤣 You are awesome.
"Maybe I haven't paid attention to the Batman movies"... Maybe you haven't been paying attention to this one. Bruce Wayne clearly states why he is opposed to any kind of superman character. How could you even miss that? Yes, "insecurity". That's what you people are about. The holy quest to find that holy grail (in a person).
In this version of Batman, some liberties were taken to setup the backstory for him. He's been Batman for 20 years. And in this timeline as Batman, his first Sidekick Robin was murdered, His house was set on fire, and an alien from a distant planet came to earth and nearly destroyed an entire city as well as the planet(Zod). In Batmans eyes Superman being the one to kill Zod made him become possibly the most dangerous being on the planet. Batman now fears what could become of the planet if Superman should be evil.
This film/Stories does a great job showing just how much the world has changed now that Superman exists in it. It also does a great job of showing the internal struggle of Batman/Bruce that he deals within himself. Having to come to terms with his hesitation/fear towards Supermans possible raw power and strength, in addition with also knowing that this being(Superman) is needed in the aid of earths defense.
Cool and funny reaction by the way lol I was laughing to myself every time you kept thinking you weren't watching the Extended Edition lol 😂 Enjoyed the reaction, keep up the great work. And PLEASEEEEEEE, watch Zack Snyders Justice League. It's the 2021 version that's 4 hours long.
DO NOT watch the 2017 version first. PLEASE DONT WATCH IT FIRST!
Bruce/Batman saw Superman fight Gen.Zodd they ( Kryptonians) were destroying everything; Bruce sees all of his employees as family. Lex Luther stole the legless man's Wayne Enterprise's Injury Fund checks, which Lex wrote: You Let your family die ( his parents & his employees)
His dreams are visions from the a possible future, where he comes an enforcer under Darkside, to which you see the Omega symbol in his vision.
The Flash came to him saying. " You have to save Martha." Bruce thought it was about his mom until Lois told it was Clark's mom.
As fore the message on the Robin suit. Jason Todd one of the Robins after Dick Greyson grew up & came Knightwing. Was killed by the Joker horrificaly in the comics.
As for the burning of a bat brand into criminals, it was only for S.V.Ps ( Sexualy Violent Predators) so when he goes to jail, the other inmates will know what he is in for.
Like chomos wind up unalive ☠️ in the US prisons here.
Superman's hearing is so good he can tell who a person is by their Heartbeat. If Lois's heartbeat changes. Superman is there in a heartbeat.
The reason why Batman was against Superman was that Superman was so powerful that Batman feared that Superman would turn evil and destroy everything on earth. The whole "Martha scene" the reason why he was telling Superman "why did you say that name?!" And he found out it's his mother's name, because he knew that Batman was going to kill him and he was worried about someone else besides himself and Batman realized that he's become what he's been fighting since he became Batman. And yes, Lex orchestrated the whole thing because he hates Superman. And Lex wanted to be the hero that saved the world. The knightmare scene was a nightmare, but the other "dream" where the other person says "it's Lois, she's the key..." That wasn't a dream, as the papers behind Bruce are falling down.
Batman understand why he's angry
"This feels so real" Exactly my thoughts when I saw this movie in the cinema.
Perfect, although I think you missed it because of the skirt perception of watching the wrong movie, but I see the comments explain Batman well I just add to those comments, that this Batman has been in Gotham for 20 years and has lost Robin.
Then would come Wonder Woman (2017)
and Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021 - 4 hours in length).
This is the extended cut and Batman is vengeance. His famous words are “I am vengeance I am the night I am Batman”
The one overall aspect of Batmans philosophy is, he has to be apex, no one else.
48:12 The priest at the smallville funeral for Clark was the same priest he revealed himself to in man of steel when seeking guidance after Zods ultimatum.
You DID watch the extended version. The scene with Superman destroying the drone when he rescues Lois in the desert is cut out of the theatrical version.
He was the bad guy on Die Hard 3! And he did an excellent movie, where he became a killer, going after the murderers of his family!
I'm reading Comics (Marvel, DC & everything available in Europe) since more than 55 years! My favourite Superhero was, is and will always be Batman. And believe me, Ben Affleck (Batfleck) ist the by far most comic accurate Batman I've ever seen on the big screen. Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer & George Clooney? C'mon, no way! Christian Bale? Brilliant trilogy, but not the huge fighter, Batman always has been in comic books. And here he is: Ben Affleck is the Dark Knight as created by famous Comic legends Neal Adams, Frank Miller or Jim Lee - to name a few! And why did he fight against Superman? Bruce/Batman had no dreams, he had VISIONS from the future - and in this future he was killed by an evil Superman. Please rewatch this movie for your own joy (a must for all Zack Snyder movies!) and you will discover many things you missed. Next movies: Justice League (Snydercut) and Aquaman. Wonder Woman - if you haven't seen it - you can watch whenever you want.
As I was watching, I thought, "she said it wasn't the Ultimate Edition, but I don't think that scene (with Jena Malone in Star Labs) was in the theatrical version." For me, the big difference was a scene between Lois and the woman who testified ("I don't think he even answers to God"). In the theatrical version, they'd deleted the revelation that she was paid for her testimony.
She was the female voice in,The Impossibles!😮😮😮
Blue I want to thank you for leaving that long, amazing rant at the beginning. It would’ve been so easy for you to show an edited down version with only a passing mention of the difficulty you had in locating the extended cut. The part where you realized that you’d been watching it all along is one for the Trixy Blue highlight reel if there ever is one. Very funny and good judgement to leave it all in!
Bruce just sees the danger of someone as powerful as Superman. Like he said, if there is just a 1% chance of him turning evil it would be the end of the world. The stakes are just too high to believe he’ll stay a good guy.
That's one thing most people don't get about Superman. Absolute power corrupts. Superman is so powerful, he is in constant danger of being corrupted. If he ever strays from his moral compass, he'd be a massive threat. In the comics, even Superman understands this - at one point he gives Batman a piece of Kryptonite because Batman is the only one he trust to stop him if he ever turns bad.
Im so frustrated why even at the end she still dont get why batman is doing this 😅 also who told her to watch wonderwoman first? She needs more real nerds in the comments to guide her 😂
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You watched Bruce have a nightmare where the Superman went rogue, you seen Lex orchestrate the friction between them and yet you still cant understand why batman is fighting superman?? 🤨