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Oh, I guess you're only familiar with the new Batman movies. Michelle Pfeiffer? Ha. The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether or Eartha Kitt. And how come Batman doesn't dance anymore? Remember the Batusi?
Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman performance is unsurpassed to this day. FYI the scene where she beheads the mannequins with her whip and then ropeskips away, was done on her first take. It was all her and she nailed it. She also put that bird in her mouth for real. Talk about dedication. 🖤
It’s not a Batman movie… it was a Tim Burton movie… Batman just happened to be in it. It was literally a repeat of Edward Scissorhands with the Penguin, it wasn’t even about Batman
@@nsasupporter7557 to be fair all the other Batman movies stole stories from elsewhere and you have the most renown Batman: The Dark Knight, basically a Joker movie, not a Batman movie. Batman actually looked good and was a focus in Tim Burton's films unlike the Nolan ones. Where most his time he's Patrick Bateman roleplating as Batman using the 5 year old voice kids do when they try to be tough.
@@myTERAexperience I just finished explaining how Batman wasn’t the focus in Returns… it was completely about the Penguin and the Penguin was Edward Scissorhands. The first Batman movie from 1989 was more about Batman but not that much more. I know alot of people crap on Batman Forever because it was “too light and corny,” but we actually had more screen m time with Batman/Bruce Wayne in that movie than either one of the Tim Burton movies
The mistletoe reveal is so unbelievably good! I get chills every time!!! I watched this movie every Christmas growing up, it's one of my favorites. I'm so happy to see people still enjoying it!
"Are those real penguins?" *Some* of them are. There's also puppet/robot animatronics, some of the big Emperor Penguins are actually small performers in suits, and a couple of the big crowd scene shots are early CGI characters.
As with Die Hard, this is technically a Christmas movie. The first is brilliantly done, Tim Burton brought Batman to the darkness while trying to find the light. This is incredible, it didn't disappoint.
Agreed. I just don't see why 1992 parents hated it. Because of that backlash, it made Warners want to lighten up the tone and hire Joel Schumacher to direct Batman Forever (1995) and Batman & Robin (1997).
@@nickperkins8477 So? It doesn't have to be released at Christmas to be set during Christmas and thus be a Christmas movie. Iron Man 3 was relased in May, Die Hard was in July. Both of those still fit as Christmas films.
@@alextan1478 " I just don't see why 1992 parents hated it. " Really? Most parents wouldn't want to show this to their kids. PG-13 seems right for the rating in the creepy but then add in all the dirty talk about sex and BDSM flirting. They would probably say push it one higher rating. Fine for adults/mature audiences. I think parents would wait till they at least in high school for their kids to see this one. Especially how even Blue was shocked at some of the things Penguin said.
"Max Schreck" was actually the name of a German actor from the early 20th century, he played one of the first on-screen Vampires in the famous "Nosferatu" (1922). It seems Tim Burton chose that on purpose. Ironically "Schreck" is also the German word for "scare", like in being scared (dt: 'erschrecken' or 'erschreckt werden').
He was also meant to be Penguin's brother, their parents would've had a second son they kept. But they dropped it from the original script. That's why Max is "just there" with no real impact in the story despite having some really serious looking scenes with Penguin that allude to something more important. It was also Penguin's whole motivation with killing first born sons.
Michelle Pfeiffer didn't just bring the perfect attitude (and voice) to her portrayal of Catwoman, she was also pretty handy with the supervillain's whip. The scene where she breaks into a Gotham City department store and using her whip snaps the heads off four mannequins is a fun sequence, and it has a few cuts to tight shots of the heads falling off, so it's not clear if Pfeiffer is actually doing the whipping. And in most instances for scenes like this, the actor steps aside and allows a stuntperson to do it. But in a behind-the-scenes clip from the movie that surfaced in mid-February 2021 and instantly went viral, you see that Pfeiffer wasn't just doing the whip work in the scene but dropped all four heads in one take. After doing it and jump roping with the whip off screen you hear the crew give Pfeiffer a huge round of applause.
You don’t get modern super hero movies without this movie. It pushed what a live action comic movie could be and while I don’t think Burton was always super comic accurate, he nailed a tone that gave long time batman fans something to love and cherish. The complex parallels on life paths is still top tier.
"Returns" is the best Batman movie ever made. Darker, deeper, edgier, it's literally the best of everything. And Danny Elfman's soundtrack in this one is *sublime*.
@@StreetHierarchy I'd actually never thought about that before, excellent point 🙂 I'm a huge fan of Burton's Batmans, I consider them to be infinitely better than the Nolan trilogy; Nolan's films are ok, but I do think they're vastly overrated (I know that's a controversial opinion to have in the world of contemporary cinema, but I stand by it). Burton's Batmans have true artistic value, and unlike Nolan's films these ones legitimately feel like a comic book come to life - Burton's films consistently maintained the campy comic-book aesthetic while blending it with gothic surrealism and elements of dark fantasy, whereas Nolan's films are so much weaker by comparison because he unwisely chose to ground the Batman universe in minimalistic realism, which was a mistake. Burton's films have it all - the best Batman (Keaton), the best villains (Nicholson is the best Joker; no disrespect to Heath Ledger, but Nicholson will always be the most iconic portrayal of the character), the most memorable musical score (Danny Elfman, bravo👌), and "Returns" is the ultimate expansion of all of that. One of the producers summed it up perfectly in a documentary I saw a while ago - "Batman 89" is Tim Burton in a Batman movie, "Returns" is Batman in a Tim Burton movie. That's why it's a masterpiece. And "Edward Scissorhands" also being the masterpiece that it is likely had a lot to do with it, again, excellent point you've made.
Dark knight still beats it tho but I love this one! & funny everyone loves Michelle’s Catwoman for the same reason they hated Hailey Barry’s 😂 she comes back from death and can do gymnastics out of nowhere
@@TheHurley108 Both artists did the most possible with their varied approach and thus are worthy of the highest respect. One chose painting, the other chose sculpting; that said, I enjoyed Tim Burton's films far more. Both are brilliant and chose disciplines far different from one another, yet approached the same subject with great enthusiasm. I think Nolan wanted to be Batman while Burton was afraid he already was.
@@Narutoanime16g I'll be honest, I've never been a fan of The Dark Knight. I know, everyone loves it, lol I just never have; a couple of people who used to be some of my closest friends growing up have in fact actually stopped talking to me altogether just because I don't like it, kinda funny, also fairly petty. But I stand by it. "Batman Begins" is a solid movie, I really like that one, but the last two aren't that great, and The Dark Knight especially is very overrated. I have too many issues with it (glaring plot holes big and small, some terrible dialogue, some bad acting here and there, choppy pacing, etc.). Christian Bale's a cringy Batman (but not a bad Bruce Wayne, oddly enough), Michael Caine's Alfred is whiny and talks *way* too much, and I really think they rushed the whole thing with Two Face. Plus there's the whole underlying theme of worshipping the modern justice system, which is total garbage. Heath Ledger was a great Joker, but that's it, that's *literally* the only compliment I can hand the movie. The rest of it's pretty forgettable.
Michelle Pfeiffer is incredibly powerful. All the acting in this is wonderful. I've never seen someone discover this Catwoman from scratch without spoilers! I agree that this relationship between Batman and Catwoman is something the world needs more of, and I love how you ship them. I do think these two movies have inspired a lot of comics, cartoons, games, and other movies. I think Batman Returns is a formative movie for Blue -- Catwoman is her spirit animal now!
I remember watching this in the theater (I was 12) and being creeped out in all the best ways by the Penguin. I also remember wanting Catwoman to be my girlfriend
The Penguin and Catwoman were two of the popular villains from the 1960s TV show. They appeared quite often, along with The Joker and The Riddler. These four combined to be Batman's archnemeses in the 1966 TV movie, which aired prior to the shows 3-year run. The show was intended to be campy, so it would be good for laughs.
The scene in the department store with the whip and the dummy head removal and her flipping in the store was actually real the actress, she took training in acrobatics and whip training, even the director said no one would believe it.
That line that Selina says to Bruce as they walk along the street in daylight "There'll be a hot time in the old town tonight." Is the same line Joker sings to that gangster that he roasts in the boardroom in the first film. Thanks to that Easter Egg I can't help but think when Selina says it to Bruce, Joker's going to pop up in the background in full blown priest gear to marry them off Joker style!😂
Fun reaction Blue. The look on your face at times was priceless/hilarious 😅 This movie started my life long crush on Michelle Pfeiffer. Still the best cat woman and not just because she's beautiful/sexy. She's a fantastic actress, and still beautiful today. Christopher Walken and Danny DeVito's characters are unredeemable sociopaths/psychopaths. The Penguin and his plan at the end is very dark/disturbing. Some of the Batman movies get a bit too ridiculous. Especially the George Clooney Batman movies. However Uma Thermon is a fun Poison Ivy
6:26 "Me." I mean skin tight vinyl and a whip might be an interesting look on you lol. 10:10 Loved the realization of Catwoman here. 11:11 "She did not strike me as the type." Oh, it's always the quiet ones that end up being the freakiest fun lol.
I’m still amazed pfieffer didn’t win some sort of award for the breakdown scene. As a kid I found the scene haunting, especially with that music, but now that I’m older, and been through my own hard times, DAMN that scene hits so hard.
I much prefer this Batman movie to all the others. Nolan's Batman movies clearly had a lot of work go into them, but this movie hit me right where I needed it.
Batman Returns is a visually stunning film that captures the dark and brooding essence of the Batman character. The cast delivers solid performances, with Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman stealing the show. However, the plot is convoluted and the pacing can be uneven at times, making it feel like there are too many subplots competing for attention. Additionally, some of the more fantastical elements may not be to everyone's taste. Overall, while it may not be the strongest entry in the Batman franchise, it is still a worthwhile watch for fans of the character and those who enjoy Tim Burton's unique aesthetic.
Max Shreck, was the name of the actor who played "Nosferatu" in the Silent film (1922) as Count Orlok. The German film could not get the rights to "Dracula" so they made their own similar, yet better Vampyre movie. (Frederich Gustav Maximillian Schreck (1879-1936) - Long before the animated Shreck films. Tim Burton is a fan of German Expressionist Art and Cinema -even elements of "Metropolis" (1927, Fritz Lang) has visual tribute in this Batman film.
Had to laugh when you said "weapon of choice" when Selina picked up the taser. There was a popular music video in the early 2000s called Weapon of Choice, which featured Christopher Walken (who played Max Shreck) dancing.
Christopher Walken in the The Prophecy Do you know how you got that dent, in your top lip? Way back, before you were born, I told you a secret, then I put my finger there and I said Shhhhh
Fun fact, not too long ago Michelle Pfeiffer found her old whip she used in this movie and posted a video of herself running through some of the practice routines she used to do back in the day. She still has her skills all these years later.
Fun fact, when Michelle Pfeiffer whipped the mannequins' heads off, she did that on her first take. I believe that she became a master of the whip for this movie. There is BTS footage of that moment, and the crew applauded her for it.
Paul Reubens and Diane Salinger (Peewee Herman and Simone) from 'Peewee's Big Adventure' play Oswald Cobblepot's parents at the very beginning. A nice nod to Tim Burton's first Theatrical Movie.
I absolutely loved watching how giddy and enthusiastic you got watching Pfeiffer's performance in this. And just so you know, it wasn't a one-off... she has quite the body of work behind her, it was always a treat watching her command her roles during the 80's and 90's. If you want 'heat' with some fun, please try The Fabulous Baker Boys (1989). You don't even have to do an official vid posting of it, just something you can sit back and enjoy and have a big ole giddy grin on the entire time. My guilty pleasure of hers is 88's Married To The Mob.
If you want to see Bruce and Selina’s future adventures after this film, check out the comic series Batman ‘89. Despite the name, it occurs after Batman Returns.
This is still my favorite of the live action Batman movies. It's kind of what got me into the comics which are vastly different. Although in some comics Catwoman tried stealing a Diamond which Batman recovered. She was always a bit peeved about losing the diamond to him on their first meeting. Even after they learned each other's identity she still was a bit sore about losing the Diamond. In a recent comic however Catwoman and Batman teamed up and Batman got down on one knee and proposed to Catwoman with the Diamond she stole the first time they ever met embedded in a ring that he had specially made for her.
There is a comicbook adaptation of the cancelled 3rd Tim Burton Batman movie where Billy Dee Williams's Harvey Dent/Two-Face is the villain, it itroduces a black Robin (I believe Marlon Wayans from Scary Movie & White Chicks was considered for the role) & Catwoman returns.
R.I.P Treat Williams he died on Monday from a motorcycle crash he was 71 he starred in my favourite creature feature movie DEEP RISING a totally underrated classic with loads of actor's people will recognise
Micheal Keaton was an excellent Batman and most everyone's favorite. Which is a big reason on why he is returning as Batman in the upcoming Flash movie.
The actor that played Chip didn't tell anyone he was going to do a Christopher Walken impression... So when he delivered his lines, Walken was caught off guard and his reaction was real..
Blue Catwoman and Penguin were villians on the original Batman TV series. Catwoman was played primarily by Julie Newmar with appearances by Eartha Kitt (3 episodes) and Lee Meriwether (2 episodes and the 1966 Batman TV movie). The Penguin was famously played by Burgess Meredith, Mick from the Rocky movies. These two villains along with the Joker and the Riddler were the primary villians that rotated appearances on the show. Other villians such as Mr Freeze, King Tut and Egghead also appeared but less frequently. Blue you don't know how close you are. In the original TV series Batman and Catwoman had a similar relationship love/hate also each story was always split over 2 episodes with a cliffhanger usually Batman in dire trouble in the first episode and the narrator always telling us to tune in next week same Bat Time same Bat Channel
Paul O'Brian. Batman 66 was not a TV movie. It was a theatrical release, using the TV characters. It is actually the first live action Batman movie to hit theaters, (not counting the 1940s Batman portrayals)
I'm glad you like Batman and Batman Returns, they're the two best Batman movies in my opinon. Had so much fun watching as a kid, great movies. Cheers :)
It's funny how you're saying Penguin should have hacked and tracked Batman's vehicle... This came out in 1992, there was no internet, no hackers, no satellite navigation or GPS!
Annette Bening was originally cast as Selina Kyle/Catwoman in 1991 after Tim Burton saw her in The Grifters (1990) and thought she’d be perfect. Michelle Pfeiffer was secretly devastated and even mentioned to Jack Nicholson, her Witches of Eastwick (1987) co-star, how much she’d have liked to play Catwoman. When Annette became pregnant with Warrren Beaty’s baby and had to drop out, Jack brought up Michelle’s name to Tim Burton and she was hired. Later, Michelle starred with Jack in 1994’s Wolf, about modern-day werewolves.
This is my favorite Catwoman (and you will see a couple more before you're done). This one is tied for my favorite Penguin (and can hardly wait for your reaction to the NEXT Penguin). I always assume Selina had learned all these amazing physical skills but it took something really big for her to start using them, like this weird trauma involving cats (which I figure was just something about a Tim Burton movie and its universe--like Penguins raising a human baby).
🐧: "I was their #1 son, but they treated me like #2." #2 is a term that parents use with kids for poop (#1 is pee). FWIW, two other great films with Danny DeVito are "Get Shorty" and "Twins."
Yeah, as time has gone by, this eclipsed Burton's first "Batman" as my favorite. Close though. But you , me and a lot of people love that darkness and a more fully developed Burton vision. Fun stuff.
When penguin said “I was their number one but they treated me like number two” in the US we refer to pooping as number 2. I’m not sure if the number 1 and number 2 has the same meaning in other places
Yeah. Tim Burton had a different vision for Batman 3 which would have kept the darker feel. But sadly, the studio wanted to go a more family friendly direction because of merchandising reasons so Tim Burton's third Batman movie (titled Batman Continues) was cancelled in favor of Batman Forever.
Batman became batman because a mugger killed his patents, and in the comics the mugger was arrested, but gothams police became corrupt. Batman also in 99% of his versions has a very strict no killing rule, because if he kills he's no better than the criminals, also hes.....kinda insane and the no kill rule is what keeps him controlled, in alot of versions where he let's himself kill, he starts killing everyone
That was a patent leather trench coat that Selena made into her Catwoman costume. I would have preferred it Tim Burton made Michelle Pfeifer dye her hair color to jet black in order to be true to the comic book character's look.Did you noticed that the neon lights text sign in her apartment wall originally said "Hello There" and then she changed it to "Hell Here". That was one of her nails/claws that got caught in Batman's suit. The penguins didn't betray the Penguin. Alfred changed the radio frequency to change their actions. Each bullet that Max Shrek shot could be counted as a life. You called it when you said that Catwoman was on top of a building looking up at the bat signal.
Just popping up here with a personal opinion: I'm 46, I grew up with the Burton Batman movies. Keaton is my favorite Batman and though I really like the Nolan and Christian Bale Dark Knight trilogy and also enjoyed Robert Pattinson's last year's "The Batman" there's no denying this: Keaton and Pfeiffer have the best sexual chemistry on screen as Batman and Catwoman. They're both amazing actors who also have happened to have been involved in real life a few years prior to "Batman Returns " and that shows. Bale and Anne Hathaway had zero chemistry and Pattinson and Zoe Kravitz barely. With Keaton and Pfeiffer you feel their characters just want to get it on but they can't because they're antagonists. Hathaway's Catwoman flips to the good guys side at the last minute (what the heck?) and Zoe Kravitz's pretends she's a baddie but not really. Pfeiffer portrayed a real psycho Catwoman, not a bland alteration like in newer movies.
In earlier drafts Max Shreck was Penguins older brother. Plus Max is actually based on the 1920's silent movie actor Max Shreck who played the lead role in 1922's Nosferatu.
Without spoiling much of anything, the sequels "Forever" and "& Robin" are soft reboots, "Begins" starts a new trilogy in a 100% different continuity, Man of Steel reboots everything in DC, and now director James Gunn is starting over again with younger actors. I don't know that it matters much anymore but recently WB has officially connected The Micheal Keaton Batman and Christopher Reeves Superman in the same continuity... but otherwise one probably wouldn't notice. For me it's just unfortunate that Tim Burton never got to do more Batman films... I think they would've been great!
ironically both tim burton and nolan took many liberties but still made good movies to me it just shows how verstile batman as a character is you can make almost any type of genre film with him and it be really feel like a genre film more then a superhero one.....
11:00 - "How does she have a leather suit" in her closet? She didn't. She had a vinyl / pleather raincoat that she cut up and sewed into a skin-tight outfit for herself. How anyone could simply cut up a raincoat and re-stitch it together at odd angles and scraps without a pattern and **multiple** fittings, on the first try: movie magic. Or maybe that's one of this Catwoman's magical cat powers. At any rate, she nailed it, and created one of the single most iconic comic-character outfits of all time. The glittery black or purple spandex of the TV show's many Cat-women were all sexy and beautiful. The many costumes that the comic book artists came up with were all important in their own way. This off-kilter, unhinged, hand-stitched-by-a-mentally-unstable-person-after-a-near-death-experience body suit was edgy and BDSM and raw as hell. The Halle Berry film tried (and for my money, succeeded more than many people give it credit for; acknowledging its many flaws I was still entertained). The Anne Hathaway character was cool, with the goggles / ears thing that was pretty clever. Zoe Kravitz' character had depth. But this is THE Catwoman for a lot of people, myself included. Nobody else's character and costume- each on their own and together as a package- has come close, IMHO.
After all these years of seeing these movies as a child back-to-back I just realized when Catwoman said "it'll be a hot time in the cool town tonight" is a little Easter egg reference to The Joker in the first movie when he fried Antoine rotelli to death with the hand buzzer, while he was frying the poor guy the death he started singing "ohhh it'll be a hot time in the old town tonight"
it's a reference to that old song, which if I remember correctly, alluded to, of all things, "anti-Irish sentiment" due to waves of immigration from that country at the time from which the song originates. "Mrs. O'Leary, put a lantern in the shed, and when the cow tipped it over, she looked around and said there'll be a hot time in the old tonight," from 1896.
The 89 Batman was my favorite movie when I was a little kid, the shootouts and overall gothic dark tone. I was so hyped for this when I was little and could not have been more let down. It feels cartoonish in a cheap carnival side show act way, and then the next 2 batman movies got even worse until luckily Christopher Nolan came in and saved everything with the reboot.
His Name is Max Schreck. Schreck being the german word for scare, like when something scares you. Probably not intentional but who knows with Tim Burton. Edit: It's Shreck not Schreck. Sorry my bad.
Michelle Pfeiffer’s Catwoman will always be legendary. Sultry, quirky, sardonic, and altogether unhinged and that was just in the opening act.
She is MY Catwoman
Oh, I guess you're only familiar with the new Batman movies. Michelle Pfeiffer? Ha. The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether or Eartha Kitt. And how come Batman doesn't dance anymore? Remember the Batusi?
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Another great classic ! 👍😒🇺🇸🇮🇹🇲🇽
Batman is back in the flash movie in 2023 ! 👍🇺🇸🇮🇹🇲🇽
Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman performance is unsurpassed to this day. FYI the scene where she beheads the mannequins with her whip and then ropeskips away, was done on her first take. It was all her and she nailed it. She also put that bird in her mouth for real. Talk about dedication. 🖤
And she ad-libbed the rope skipping at the end. In heels.
During COVID she posted a video at home cracking that whip in her yard. Still got it.
@@MrNoosphere wow ! 😮
When Penguin says his parents treated him like “number two,” he’s not talking about order of birth. “Number two” refers to defecation.
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Both Michelle Pfeiffer and Danny DeVito were perfect in their roles. Very underrated movie
Batman Returns was always my favorite Batman movie.
It’s not a Batman movie… it was a Tim Burton movie… Batman just happened to be in it.
It was literally a repeat of Edward Scissorhands with the Penguin, it wasn’t even about Batman
@@nsasupporter7557 Whatever you want to call it. I liked it.
@@nsasupporter7557 to be fair all the other Batman movies stole stories from elsewhere and you have the most renown Batman: The Dark Knight, basically a Joker movie, not a Batman movie.
Batman actually looked good and was a focus in Tim Burton's films unlike the Nolan ones. Where most his time he's Patrick Bateman roleplating as Batman using the 5 year old voice kids do when they try to be tough.
@@myTERAexperience I just finished explaining how Batman wasn’t the focus in Returns… it was completely about the Penguin and the Penguin was Edward Scissorhands. The first Batman movie from 1989 was more about Batman but not that much more. I know alot of people crap on Batman Forever because it was “too light and corny,” but we actually had more screen m time with Batman/Bruce Wayne in that movie than either one of the Tim Burton movies
@@pauldavis5665Batman 1989 will always be the best Batman movie
The mistletoe reveal is so unbelievably good! I get chills every time!!! I watched this movie every Christmas growing up, it's one of my favorites. I'm so happy to see people still enjoying it!
"Are those real penguins?"
*Some* of them are. There's also puppet/robot animatronics, some of the big Emperor Penguins are actually small performers in suits, and a couple of the big crowd scene shots are early CGI characters.
As with Die Hard, this is technically a Christmas movie. The first is brilliantly done, Tim Burton brought Batman to the darkness while trying to find the light. This is incredible, it didn't disappoint.
Agreed. I just don't see why 1992 parents hated it. Because of that backlash, it made Warners want to lighten up the tone and hire Joel Schumacher to direct Batman Forever (1995) and Batman & Robin (1997).
Yes. And, a Christmas movie that originally was released in June. June 19, 1992.
@@nickperkins8477 So? It doesn't have to be released at Christmas to be set during Christmas and thus be a Christmas movie. Iron Man 3 was relased in May, Die Hard was in July. Both of those still fit as Christmas films.
@@alextan1478 " I just don't see why 1992 parents hated it. " Really? Most parents wouldn't want to show this to their kids. PG-13 seems right for the rating in the creepy but then add in all the dirty talk about sex and BDSM flirting. They would probably say push it one higher rating. Fine for adults/mature audiences. I think parents would wait till they at least in high school for their kids to see this one. Especially how even Blue was shocked at some of the things Penguin said.
"Max Schreck" was actually the name of a German actor from the early 20th century, he played one of the first on-screen Vampires in the famous "Nosferatu" (1922).
It seems Tim Burton chose that on purpose.
Ironically "Schreck" is also the German word for "scare", like in being scared (dt: 'erschrecken' or 'erschreckt werden').
He was also meant to be Penguin's brother, their parents would've had a second son they kept. But they dropped it from the original script. That's why Max is "just there" with no real impact in the story despite having some really serious looking scenes with Penguin that allude to something more important. It was also Penguin's whole motivation with killing first born sons.
Michelle Pfeiffer didn't just bring the perfect attitude (and voice) to her portrayal of Catwoman, she was also pretty handy with the supervillain's whip.
The scene where she breaks into a Gotham City department store and using her whip snaps the heads off four mannequins is a fun sequence, and it has a few cuts to tight shots of the heads falling off, so it's not clear if Pfeiffer is actually doing the whipping. And in most instances for scenes like this, the actor steps aside and allows a stuntperson to do it.
But in a behind-the-scenes clip from the movie that surfaced in mid-February 2021 and instantly went viral, you see that Pfeiffer wasn't just doing the whip work in the scene but dropped all four heads in one take. After doing it and jump roping with the whip off screen you hear the crew give Pfeiffer a huge round of applause.
You don’t get modern super hero movies without this movie. It pushed what a live action comic movie could be and while I don’t think Burton was always super comic accurate, he nailed a tone that gave long time batman fans something to love and cherish. The complex parallels on life paths is still top tier.
"Returns" is the best Batman movie ever made. Darker, deeper, edgier, it's literally the best of everything. And Danny Elfman's soundtrack in this one is *sublime*.
I think the difference between the Tim Burton Batman movies is, Returns was made after he found his voice(Edward Scissorhands)
@@StreetHierarchy I'd actually never thought about that before, excellent point 🙂
I'm a huge fan of Burton's Batmans, I consider them to be infinitely better than the Nolan trilogy; Nolan's films are ok, but I do think they're vastly overrated (I know that's a controversial opinion to have in the world of contemporary cinema, but I stand by it). Burton's Batmans have true artistic value, and unlike Nolan's films these ones legitimately feel like a comic book come to life - Burton's films consistently maintained the campy comic-book aesthetic while blending it with gothic surrealism and elements of dark fantasy, whereas Nolan's films are so much weaker by comparison because he unwisely chose to ground the Batman universe in minimalistic realism, which was a mistake.
Burton's films have it all - the best Batman (Keaton), the best villains (Nicholson is the best Joker; no disrespect to Heath Ledger, but Nicholson will always be the most iconic portrayal of the character), the most memorable musical score (Danny Elfman, bravo👌), and "Returns" is the ultimate expansion of all of that. One of the producers summed it up perfectly in a documentary I saw a while ago - "Batman 89" is Tim Burton in a Batman movie, "Returns" is Batman in a Tim Burton movie. That's why it's a masterpiece. And "Edward Scissorhands" also being the masterpiece that it is likely had a lot to do with it, again, excellent point you've made.
Dark knight still beats it tho but I love this one! & funny everyone loves Michelle’s Catwoman for the same reason they hated Hailey Barry’s 😂 she comes back from death and can do gymnastics out of nowhere
@@TheHurley108 Both artists did the most possible with their varied approach and thus are worthy of the highest respect. One chose painting, the other chose sculpting; that said, I enjoyed Tim Burton's films far more. Both are brilliant and chose disciplines far different from one another, yet approached the same subject with great enthusiasm. I think Nolan wanted to be Batman while Burton was afraid he already was.
@@Narutoanime16g I'll be honest, I've never been a fan of The Dark Knight. I know, everyone loves it, lol I just never have; a couple of people who used to be some of my closest friends growing up have in fact actually stopped talking to me altogether just because I don't like it, kinda funny, also fairly petty. But I stand by it. "Batman Begins" is a solid movie, I really like that one, but the last two aren't that great, and The Dark Knight especially is very overrated. I have too many issues with it (glaring plot holes big and small, some terrible dialogue, some bad acting here and there, choppy pacing, etc.). Christian Bale's a cringy Batman (but not a bad Bruce Wayne, oddly enough), Michael Caine's Alfred is whiny and talks *way* too much, and I really think they rushed the whole thing with Two Face. Plus there's the whole underlying theme of worshipping the modern justice system, which is total garbage. Heath Ledger was a great Joker, but that's it, that's *literally* the only compliment I can hand the movie. The rest of it's pretty forgettable.
Michelle Pfeiffer is the coolest Catwoman ever! This movie makes me wanna replay Batman Arkham City just for Catwoman’s story
Not to mention the Catwoman’s revenge on Arkham knight.
I don't think, before being recycled into a catsuit, it was a leather suit. I think in theory it was a pvc raincoat or something :)
Michelle Pfeiffer is incredibly powerful. All the acting in this is wonderful. I've never seen someone discover this Catwoman from scratch without spoilers! I agree that this relationship between Batman and Catwoman is something the world needs more of, and I love how you ship them. I do think these two movies have inspired a lot of comics, cartoons, games, and other movies. I think Batman Returns is a formative movie for Blue -- Catwoman is her spirit animal now!
I remember watching this in the theater (I was 12) and being creeped out in all the best ways by the Penguin. I also remember wanting Catwoman to be my girlfriend
The Penguin and Catwoman were two of the popular villains from the 1960s TV show. They appeared quite often, along with The Joker and The Riddler.
These four combined to be Batman's archnemeses in the 1966 TV movie, which aired prior to the shows 3-year run.
The show was intended to be campy, so it would be good for laughs.
The movie was actually shot & released after season 1. Julie Newmar was unavailable for filming, so Catwoman had to be recast for the film.
@@Rocket1377 Thanks for correcting me. I had a feeling that I may have gotten the order wrong.
The scene in the department store with the whip and the dummy head removal and her flipping in the store was actually real the actress, she took training in acrobatics and whip training, even the director said no one would believe it.
And did it in one take
What we can learn from this movie: After a punch of kitties revive you, you're into bondage.
That line that Selina says to Bruce as they walk along the street in daylight "There'll be a hot time in the old town tonight." Is the same line Joker sings to that gangster that he roasts in the boardroom in the first film.
Thanks to that Easter Egg I can't help but think when Selina says it to Bruce, Joker's going to pop up in the background in full blown priest gear to marry them off Joker style!😂
Batman Returns is my favourite Batman movie, and also an underrated Christmas movie!
Fun reaction Blue. The look on your face at times was priceless/hilarious 😅
This movie started my life long crush on Michelle Pfeiffer.
Still the best cat woman and not just because she's beautiful/sexy. She's a fantastic actress, and still beautiful today. Christopher Walken and Danny DeVito's characters are unredeemable sociopaths/psychopaths.
The Penguin and his plan at the end is very dark/disturbing.
Some of the Batman movies get a bit too ridiculous. Especially the George Clooney Batman movies. However Uma Thermon is a fun Poison Ivy
6:26 "Me." I mean skin tight vinyl and a whip might be an interesting look on you lol. 10:10 Loved the realization of Catwoman here. 11:11 "She did not strike me as the type." Oh, it's always the quiet ones that end up being the freakiest fun lol.
It used to be a raincoat
I’m still amazed pfieffer didn’t win some sort of award for the breakdown scene.
As a kid I found the scene haunting, especially with that music, but now that I’m older, and been through my own hard times, DAMN that scene hits so hard.
I much prefer this Batman movie to all the others.
Nolan's Batman movies clearly had a lot of work go into them, but this movie hit me right where I needed it.
Best Batman movie. The Dark Knight comes close in different ways but, to me, Returns has yet to be beaten.
Batman Returns is a visually stunning film that captures the dark and brooding essence of the Batman character. The cast delivers solid performances, with Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman stealing the show. However, the plot is convoluted and the pacing can be uneven at times, making it feel like there are too many subplots competing for attention. Additionally, some of the more fantastical elements may not be to everyone's taste. Overall, while it may not be the strongest entry in the Batman franchise, it is still a worthwhile watch for fans of the character and those who enjoy Tim Burton's unique aesthetic.
def. stronger than 3 and 4. and b v s.
Max Shreck, was the name of the actor who played "Nosferatu" in the Silent film (1922) as Count Orlok. The German film could not get the rights to "Dracula" so they made their own similar, yet better Vampyre movie. (Frederich Gustav Maximillian Schreck (1879-1936) - Long before the animated Shreck films. Tim Burton is a fan of German Expressionist Art and Cinema -even elements of "Metropolis" (1927, Fritz Lang) has visual tribute in this Batman film.
This portrayal of Catwoman was spot on! She’s mostly bad and yet has a good side to her.
Had to laugh when you said "weapon of choice" when Selina picked up the taser. There was a popular music video in the early 2000s called Weapon of Choice, which featured Christopher Walken (who played Max Shreck) dancing.
Christopher Walken in the The Prophecy
Do you know how you got that dent, in your top lip? Way back, before you were born, I told you a secret, then I put my finger there and I said Shhhhh
Fun fact, not too long ago Michelle Pfeiffer found her old whip she used in this movie and posted a video of herself running through some of the practice routines she used to do back in the day. She still has her skills all these years later.
Fun fact, when Michelle Pfeiffer whipped the mannequins' heads off, she did that on her first take. I believe that she became a master of the whip for this movie. There is BTS footage of that moment, and the crew applauded her for it.
Batman Returns is def one of The Darkesr n most tragic films of Batman overall the tone of the film is epic
"strong indipendent woman"
what a lovely fable.
Paul Reubens and Diane Salinger (Peewee Herman and Simone) from 'Peewee's Big Adventure' play Oswald Cobblepot's parents at the very beginning.
A nice nod to Tim Burton's first Theatrical Movie.
Reubens played his Dad in Gotham as well
@@billthomas478 really? that's kinda awesome, I should see it.
That is because Tim couldn’t get Burgess Meredith in the movie. He got Paul instead.
If you haven't been catwoman before for Halloween you would be PERFECT as catwoman
This was the high point of Batman movies. Everybody killed their role.
I absolutely loved watching how giddy and enthusiastic you got watching Pfeiffer's performance in this. And just so you know, it wasn't a one-off... she has quite the body of work behind her, it was always a treat watching her command her roles during the 80's and 90's. If you want 'heat' with some fun, please try The Fabulous Baker Boys (1989). You don't even have to do an official vid posting of it, just something you can sit back and enjoy and have a big ole giddy grin on the entire time. My guilty pleasure of hers is 88's Married To The Mob.
If you want to see Bruce and Selina’s future adventures after this film, check out the comic series Batman ‘89. Despite the name, it occurs after Batman Returns.
Michelle got herself trained to do her own stunts and still looked stunning!
This is still my favorite of the live action Batman movies. It's kind of what got me into the comics which are vastly different. Although in some comics Catwoman tried stealing a Diamond which Batman recovered. She was always a bit peeved about losing the diamond to him on their first meeting. Even after they learned each other's identity she still was a bit sore about losing the Diamond. In a recent comic however Catwoman and Batman teamed up and Batman got down on one knee and proposed to Catwoman with the Diamond she stole the first time they ever met embedded in a ring that he had specially made for her.
There is a comicbook adaptation of the cancelled 3rd Tim Burton Batman movie where Billy Dee Williams's Harvey Dent/Two-Face is the villain, it itroduces a black Robin (I believe Marlon Wayans from Scary Movie & White Chicks was considered for the role) & Catwoman returns.
Fun fact the man who plays the father of the penguin is also the same man who plays Pee Wee Herman
Paul Reubens. And Tim Burton had directed Paul in Pee-wee's Big Adventure seven years earlier.
Trixy, i thought it was sad when the Emperor Penguins were burying Penguin after he died, they raised him , so they were like his real parents
R.I.P Treat Williams he died on Monday from a motorcycle crash he was 71 he starred in my favourite creature feature movie DEEP RISING a totally underrated classic with loads of actor's people will recognise
Yes - Catwoman and Batman's chemistry is tangible and very hot. The masquerade ball was the stuff of fantasies. *Swoon
This will always be my favorite Batman movie of all time
Fun fact: When Michelle Pfeiffer put that bird in her mouth it was actually a real bird and flew out there was no other way to do it at the time
"You are not giving milk to the cat, are you?" As human beigns did for thousands of years, before today madness!
Micheal Keaton was an excellent Batman and most everyone's favorite. Which is a big reason on why he is returning as Batman in the upcoming Flash movie.
The actor that played Chip didn't tell anyone he was going to do a Christopher Walken impression... So when he delivered his lines, Walken was caught off guard and his reaction was real..
"Why are they so posh?" is a FANTASTIC question 🤣
Blue Catwoman and Penguin were villians on the original Batman TV series. Catwoman was played primarily by Julie Newmar with appearances by Eartha Kitt (3 episodes) and Lee Meriwether (2 episodes and the 1966 Batman TV movie). The Penguin was famously played by Burgess Meredith, Mick from the Rocky movies. These two villains along with the Joker and the Riddler were the primary villians that rotated appearances on the show. Other villians such as Mr Freeze, King Tut and Egghead also appeared but less frequently.
Blue you don't know how close you are. In the original TV series Batman and Catwoman had a similar relationship love/hate also each story was always split over 2 episodes with a cliffhanger usually Batman in dire trouble in the first episode and the narrator always telling us to tune in next week same Bat Time same Bat Channel
Paul O'Brian. Batman 66 was not a TV movie. It was a theatrical release, using the TV characters. It is actually the first live action Batman movie to hit theaters, (not counting the 1940s Batman portrayals)
I suspect a lot of people would get tired of a neon sign that says "hello there" - "hell here" is a fun moment.
23:30 hence the expression
"if the trailer is rockin
Don't come a knockin"
This movie is a lot more darker and violent and more controversial than it's predecessor.
I'm glad you like Batman and Batman Returns, they're the two best Batman movies in my opinon. Had so much fun watching as a kid, great movies. Cheers :)
It's funny how you're saying Penguin should have hacked and tracked Batman's vehicle... This came out in 1992, there was no internet, no hackers, no satellite navigation or GPS!
I loved that moment when he took off his mask he pretty much said to Selina I never cared about being Superficial
When The Penguin said his parents treated him like #2 he ment it as a American idiom, when one goes to the bathroom they go #1 Pee, or #2 Poo.
Annette Bening was originally cast as Selina Kyle/Catwoman in 1991 after Tim Burton saw her in The Grifters (1990) and thought she’d be perfect. Michelle Pfeiffer was secretly devastated and even mentioned to Jack Nicholson, her Witches of Eastwick (1987) co-star, how much she’d have liked to play Catwoman. When Annette became pregnant with Warrren Beaty’s baby and had to drop out, Jack brought up Michelle’s name to Tim Burton and she was hired. Later, Michelle starred with Jack in 1994’s Wolf, about modern-day werewolves.
Fun fact, Max Shreck is named after the actor who played Nosferatu back in 1922.
Michelle became the best Catwoman ever. Fantastic! Batman Returns is my favorite of all the Batman movies without a doubt.
Tim Burton's best movie, and the best Batman movie, and also I think Danny De Vito and Michelle Pfeiffer did their best roles ever in this.
12:41 "Treated like number two", as in something that gets flushed to the sewer.
12:42 "Number two" is a euphemism for 💩, so he was saying they treated him like 💩.
This is my favorite Catwoman (and you will see a couple more before you're done).
This one is tied for my favorite Penguin (and can hardly wait for your reaction to the NEXT Penguin).
I always assume Selina had learned all these amazing physical skills but it took something really big for her to start using them, like this weird trauma involving cats (which I figure was just something about a Tim Burton movie and its universe--like Penguins raising a human baby).
The unmistakable style of Tim Burton, the music of Danny Elfman and, of course, the best Catwoman ever
🐧: "I was their #1 son, but they treated me like #2." #2 is a term that parents use with kids for poop (#1 is pee).
FWIW, two other great films with Danny DeVito are "Get Shorty" and "Twins."
"Bruce Wayne? Why are you dressed up like Batman?"
8:48 Oh, such nice foreshadowing :-)
This one is my favorite Batman movie I’ve watch this every night when I was a kid
Yeah, as time has gone by, this eclipsed Burton's first "Batman" as my favorite. Close though. But you , me and a lot of people love that darkness and a more fully developed Burton vision. Fun stuff.
One of my favorites as a little boy! Hope you are doing well, Blue. 💙
still one of my fav Batman and xmas movies
there was a cut story line where Max and Oswald were actually brothers and Thats why he picked him, also why penguins father dresses like Max.
Fun fact: Michelle did the mannequin scene in one take
When penguin said “I was their number one but they treated me like number two” in the US we refer to pooping as number 2. I’m not sure if the number 1 and number 2 has the same meaning in other places
Paul Reubens who plays Penguin's father in this would also go on to play his father in the TV series Gotham.
The other two batman films were like family friendly. They weren't the same
Yeah. Tim Burton had a different vision for Batman 3 which would have kept the darker feel. But sadly, the studio wanted to go a more family friendly direction because of merchandising reasons so Tim Burton's third Batman movie (titled Batman Continues) was cancelled in favor of Batman Forever.
Batman became batman because a mugger killed his patents, and in the comics the mugger was arrested, but gothams police became corrupt. Batman also in 99% of his versions has a very strict no killing rule, because if he kills he's no better than the criminals, also hes.....kinda insane and the no kill rule is what keeps him controlled, in alot of versions where he let's himself kill, he starts killing everyone
11:20 to 11:25 is the moment Blue fell in love with Michelle Pfeiffer
Number 2 joke went right over blues head😂
perhaps we should try it a second time...
That was a patent leather trench coat that Selena made into her Catwoman costume. I would have preferred it Tim Burton made Michelle Pfeifer dye her hair color to jet black in order to be true to the comic book character's look.Did you noticed that the neon lights text sign in her apartment wall originally said "Hello There" and then she changed it to "Hell Here". That was one of her nails/claws that got caught in Batman's suit.
The penguins didn't betray the Penguin. Alfred changed the radio frequency to change their actions.
Each bullet that Max Shrek shot could be counted as a life.
You called it when you said that Catwoman was on top of a building looking up at the bat signal.
In my childhood we gave cats milk and we ate raw eggs when training. This was what we were taught. I have no idea when all that changed.
It was the Start of the Era where The Bat Movies Were Watched Mostly for the Villains
Just popping up here with a personal opinion: I'm 46, I grew up with the Burton Batman movies. Keaton is my favorite Batman and though I really like the Nolan and Christian Bale Dark Knight trilogy and also enjoyed Robert Pattinson's last year's "The Batman" there's no denying this: Keaton and Pfeiffer have the best sexual chemistry on screen as Batman and Catwoman. They're both amazing actors who also have happened to have been involved in real life a few years prior to "Batman Returns " and that shows. Bale and Anne Hathaway had zero chemistry and Pattinson and Zoe Kravitz barely. With Keaton and Pfeiffer you feel their characters just want to get it on but they can't because they're antagonists. Hathaway's Catwoman flips to the good guys side at the last minute (what the heck?) and Zoe Kravitz's pretends she's a baddie but not really. Pfeiffer portrayed a real psycho Catwoman, not a bland alteration like in newer movies.
"no they treated you like number 58"
"Number 2" was a poop refference
In earlier drafts Max Shreck was Penguins older brother. Plus Max is actually based on the 1920's silent movie actor Max Shreck who played the lead role in 1922's Nosferatu.
Solidly in my Top 10 Comicbook movies and favorite Batman movie. Seriously underrated
Without spoiling much of anything, the sequels "Forever" and "& Robin" are soft reboots, "Begins" starts a new trilogy in a 100% different continuity, Man of Steel reboots everything in DC, and now director James Gunn is starting over again with younger actors. I don't know that it matters much anymore but recently WB has officially connected The Micheal Keaton Batman and Christopher Reeves Superman in the same continuity... but otherwise one probably wouldn't notice. For me it's just unfortunate that Tim Burton never got to do more Batman films... I think they would've been great!
ironically both tim burton and nolan took many liberties but still made good movies to me it just shows how verstile batman as a character is you can make almost any type of genre film with him and it be really feel like a genre film more then a superhero one.....
11:00 - "How does she have a leather suit" in her closet? She didn't. She had a vinyl / pleather raincoat that she cut up and sewed into a skin-tight outfit for herself. How anyone could simply cut up a raincoat and re-stitch it together at odd angles and scraps without a pattern and **multiple** fittings, on the first try: movie magic. Or maybe that's one of this Catwoman's magical cat powers. At any rate, she nailed it, and created one of the single most iconic comic-character outfits of all time.
The glittery black or purple spandex of the TV show's many Cat-women were all sexy and beautiful. The many costumes that the comic book artists came up with were all important in their own way. This off-kilter, unhinged, hand-stitched-by-a-mentally-unstable-person-after-a-near-death-experience body suit was edgy and BDSM and raw as hell. The Halle Berry film tried (and for my money, succeeded more than many people give it credit for; acknowledging its many flaws I was still entertained). The Anne Hathaway character was cool, with the goggles / ears thing that was pretty clever. Zoe Kravitz' character had depth. But this is THE Catwoman for a lot of people, myself included. Nobody else's character and costume- each on their own and together as a package- has come close, IMHO.
After all these years of seeing these movies as a child back-to-back I just realized when Catwoman said "it'll be a hot time in the cool town tonight" is a little Easter egg reference to The Joker in the first movie when he fried Antoine rotelli to death with the hand buzzer, while he was frying the poor guy the death he started singing "ohhh it'll be a hot time in the old town tonight"
it's a reference to that old song, which if I remember correctly, alluded to, of all things, "anti-Irish sentiment" due to waves of immigration from that country at the time from which the song originates. "Mrs. O'Leary, put a lantern in the shed, and when the cow tipped it over, she looked around and said there'll be a hot time in the old tonight," from 1896.
The 89 Batman was my favorite movie when I was a little kid, the shootouts and overall gothic dark tone. I was so hyped for this when I was little and could not have been more let down. It feels cartoonish in a cheap carnival side show act way, and then the next 2 batman movies got even worse until luckily Christopher Nolan came in and saved everything with the reboot.
Poison Ivy was played by Uma Thurman when Schwarzenegger played Mr Freeze!
His Name is Max Schreck. Schreck being the german word for scare, like when something scares you. Probably not intentional but who knows with Tim Burton.
Edit: It's Shreck not Schreck. Sorry my bad.
Max Schreck was the name of the actor who played vampire Count Orlok in the film Nosferatu from 1922.
It's a tribute to the actor in Nosferatu.
@@brom00 forgot about that thx
My cousin used to own a hair salon, and it was near where Michelle Pfeiffer lived…😉✂️
Trixy, you have to consider that Penguin planned to ruin Batmans reputation and kill him. He didn’t even know Batman had another identity.
2:27 yeah. If you’re wondering it. Yeah. That’s definitely munching sounds you hear. The poor kitty was dinner.