I am not so sure that this is the case. It looks like a covert subscription to me. Traktor 4 is not the version that has been promised for almost two years. For me and after all I have seen in the last 24 months, this version could be called Traktor 3 Pro Plus Subscription Version 2. The subscription model must have been a disaster and that's why they have killed it. Pay now for the upgrade which coincidentally costs practically the same as the annual Plus subscription ..... who doesn't assure you and the rest that next year Traktor Pro 5 will appear with some of the new features they have been announcing (Stems and Flexible Grids don't work as expected). So next year if Traktor Pro 5 appears, I will say the same thing: It will be Traktor Pro 3 Plus Subscription Version 3.... I hope I have explained this well. They needed money now. They have also left thousands of users with a browser flickering problem that they know exists and refuse to fix in Traktor Pro 3 when the browser worked fine until version 3.4. They can't be trusted.
I got into Traktor when it was first released, no hardware and everything controlled by mouse or keyboard. Stuck with them through all the years and glad I did. Welcome v4!
This is incredible news, especially when compared to Pioneer's recent move to start gouging their customers to use hardware they already paid for. I'm so glad to see Native Instruments doing right by their customers, and it's great to finally see some benefits from the NI / Izotope merger. I'm really, really happy with this, and I bought a day 1 upgrade to thank them.
I've been at it non-stop since yesterday.. and for me, personally, this is the best thing that has happened in 2024 . I feel very comfortable and content as everything works like magic.. Elated!
I'm happy for all Traktor users that there's progress being made! Traktor was my first digital solution and I was 'all in' for a very long time. Like many 'old skool' DJ's, I went from vinyl, to CDJ-100 / 900 etc., to Traktor. N.I. made a series of missteps, but the biggest was probably: deciding to drop the new code base of Traktor DJ 2 in favour of returning to the old code base of Traktor Pro. I worry that may come back to haunt them, but if it doesn't, so much the better. And good on them for listening to the community and doing away with subs. That can go a long way to buying back some good will. I've switched to another software solution and am very happy with it, but Traktor for sure is the OG, and the UI is darn near perfect in terms of intelligibility.
Traktor was my first love in DJ software and I was a user for years before I switched to Denon. I've always hoped they would come back to current with their software so I could pull ouy my S4 again occasionally for some fun and this video made me very happy in a nostalgic way! Also really happy to see they are taking a stand against the subscription model. Good for them. I might even upgrade just to support them.
Now we just need traktor to release a standalone controller, a mix between the s8 and the latest s4. With ozone control accessible from the screens. And of course, easy to plug a maschine +, inside, and voila, perfect hybrid setup on the go.
I'd kill for a smaller 2 Channel version of the S5, which I really enjoyed but was still a bear to haul around everywhere. Something sized like a Z1 with one half of an X1 on each side... Sort of like my old Novation Twitch.
Hey Phil thanks for the short review! Great news for Traktor users. And, hopefully, for more users too! Love Traktor (that I’m currently studying with your course) as it gives you a very creative approach to music, not only mixing two tracks abut also live remixes, 4 real decks and integration with other native instruments hardwares like Maschine and Komplete Kontrol!
I've been on Traktor since 2016 and I'm SO excited about this!! The sound quality, effects and stability have made it worth sticking with it for me, as well as some of the other functions, this takes it over the top!
FINALLY! Been using Traktor for years but of late, not so much mainly because of Stems. My Z2 mixer still doing a perfect job. Might just need to remap to make stems control simpler. Welcome back Traktor!
I wish the stem separation was on the fly, but it we still save me time from using outside software and it will keep my beat grids and cue points. Good Job NI
NI miss so many game changer moves. They've got komplete software / hardware, machine, traktor and now Izotopes. Integrating them to work well together is the magic I've been missing
I'm so happy Traktor finally listened to requests for Stems! I didn't want to have to make the switch back to Serato with all the hardware & software purchases! Can't wait to try this out!
At least they finally delivered something. We‘ve been hearing “soon” for too long. I am fine with none real time stems if that gives us better quality.
Traktor is amazing with its Pattern Player and Ozone Maximizer/Limiter, Flexible Beat Grid! Too bad the stems are not live BUT i heard a comparison of Stem extraction amongst different DJ software and Traktor came #1 for sound quality. AMAZING Traktor, I have always stuck with you and now you caught up.
Amazing news. Like most in the comments been a long time traktor user and can’t imagine playing on anything else (and I’ve tried 😂) NI please continue with the updates and would love to see some new hardware, D2 mk2s or a Z4 mixer perhaps? Or even some good NI approved TSIs for some of the popular kit? (Denon SC players anyone?) With the flexigrids maybe get some NI approved TSIs for things like the DJM battle mixers?
Just few months back i commented on one of ur video Traktor is Dead & u replied its may come back....something like that.....u were right,not upto the mark but its a welcome upgrades to Traktor n glad to see they havent completed neglected it as it seemed.
This is genuinely (for me, as a loyal Traktor Pro user) the most exciting thing to come out in terms of digital DJing for a decade. I've been on Traktor Pro 2 for as long as I can remember. I still use it week in week out on a Macbook Pro at gigs and it's never let me down, but I never liked the stylistic change of Pro 3, and the issues with the look of that version on Retina was a deal breaker for me. I know the Retina thing still hasn't been addressed for v4, but there is enough about this new version with the stems, the flexible gridding, and the unlocking of the Ozone maximizer and pattern player to make me finally do the upgrade. I am so excited and grateful to Native Instruments for finally bringing a lot of people's favourite digital DJing platform kicking and screaming into the modern age!
Glad to see Native Instruments coming back strong, when at one point it didn't look good for them moving forward.. Always had a soft spot for them since it was my first experience using control vinyl. I may have to dust off the old fluorescent Traktor vinyl for a spin with the new software 👌
True while you can not batch process Stems in Traktor 4 you can however process many files to be processed one after another like queueing. While processing one file I wanted to see if I could process more, so I clicked on another file to generate stems while the previous file was still generating. I did the process about four more times. The outcome was great when one file finished the other started automatically it continued this cycle without any additional interaction from me until all songs were completed "Queueing". It uses a lot of CPU but, this method works just set it and forget, and it will complete the task. I have not tried to do more than 10 files in my testing. I'm sure I will steadily increase the number to see if there is a breaking point.
Queing seems to be in their mind already. Why else would the statusbar show 1/1 before every task. Maybe with an early Update. Also would be great if they utilize the GPU more for Steming.
Traktor was the first DJ software I used and liked it a lot. I own a slew of Traktor controllers including the S4, the S8, X1 (Mk2 and Mk3), F1, Z1. I have been using them with Virtual DJ who have done a decent job of incorporating the intended functions into their software (even on the S8), giving me controller freedom and allowing me to mix and match controllers. For example, I bring my X1 to a gig where the CDJ play button is faulty so that I have a way to make sure the track will play when I hit play. I'm not crazy about having the software convert to the old stems format as it will take up way more room on my drive, duplicate the track and I think will get messy. I may go back and give it another try once they're able to figure the stems thing out... and Video would be another cool feature to add as I have transitioned to playing music videos as well... NI, are you listening? Another thing they can do to coax DJs there is to start making .tsi files for as many 3rd party controllers as possible which may or may not cannibalize their hardware sales (making this move will attract more DJs who have existing controllers and they can then market to these DJs with superior stuff from NI, but not doing it won't attract as many DJs back, so I think it's a strategic move and will also show the love to DJs who have been feeling abandoned by Native Instruments)
Sounds like a great update, but I'll wait a few weeks to see if there are any bugs. Yet I'm sad they still haven't implemented the recommended tracks feature they had in Traktor DJ for the Ipad 10years ago.
I've just finished implementing support for the new flexible beat grids for conversion to- and from- Traktor Pro 4. Before rolling this out as an update, the feature needs to be tested. So, I'm opening a free public beta program! If you have a valid DJCU license and Traktor Pro 4 installed, I'd love for you to join the beta. Just send me a DM, and I'll get you the download link.
I might have to swap my S11/XP2 out for my Z2,F1,X1, Machine MK3...I do miss Traktor and Using my Z2...I still maintain that the Z2 with Traktor 3 was the best integration and control of ANY software/Hardware combo to date
There are a few good mappings from other users or mapping-services for the S11. You can maybe stick with it. But I'm totally with you. The in-universe hardware and modular extensions from NI are great.
Hearing the part about the flexible was a little odd to me, I've been playing open format with Traktor for 10 + years and have been able to switch between genres fine. Maybe I just need to try it out to find out what the big difference is.
If only the mapping of the jogwheel of third party controllers was on point. I never could make my DDJ-SR to feel good while scratching. I hated to use Serato, but had Traktor already, so I used my SR with Traktor. I then tried Rekordbox with it, which worked great. Plus the flexible beatgrids and sync worked exactly like in Traktor. And now I have a FLX10... Maybe I should try to use it with Traktor once again....
Would love a mapping for a DDJ1000. Moved to RB5 from traktor a few years ago but would love to come back. Hate subscriptions and want to use timecode with the DDJ 👍
@@digitaldjtips I used to have an S4, since then I've had a djm450 + xp2 & timecode. Now the ddj1000 + timecode with RB5. I love the ddj1000 but prefer the traktor software.
When pioneer future cdj's can play/separate stems then producers/record labels will release music in this format as it is the trend. Then one must ask why they didn't do it 9 years ago when Traktor introduced the feature & concept.
And GUESS WHAT? They waited til the darn 50% off July sale was OVER to do this! This is kinda scummy, but yeah it's a nice upgrade. I'm still on 3 so I guess I'll show them my feelings by waiting for another sale. I've been a customer for probably 15-17 years now. Thanks for the video Phil!
First, I'm very pleased that NI finally got around to implementing stems. However, it seems like it's kind of clunky compared to Serato's simple real time implementation where there's so preparation ahead of time, no extra files to deal with and no cluttered display. In Serato you just click a button and you get the isolated stem (bass or vocal, etc.).
I have an X1 Mk2 and would like to be able to control the stems. Do I need to add an F1 to my set up? Or will NI be releasing a new mini controller soon?
Stems tip: As mentioned in the video you cant select a batch of files to stem separate, BUT You can select a track to Separate and whilst its separating the first track you can then add to the stem separation queue whilst its separating tracks. Whilst its been processing a queue I have been able to ad 6 tracks to the queue..... Little work around I guess... I was really starting to consider leaving Traktor, but using Pro 4 for the last 20 mins, Im going to see where they go with updates....
@lk0707 so what? I was just encouraging you to contact them before assuming they'd be unreasonable and deny you the upgrade to 4. too late ffs. You should have thought a little yourself
upgraded last night and start analyze stems on several tracks, made lot of requests on queue and had a crash, started Traktor again and no single file presenting link to stems, the files were there, I checked... delete all stems files and start all over again, less files on queue now, lets see..... running on a M1 macbook air
Not quite true to say no other DJ software has a maximizer. VirtualDJ has been able to host VST plugins for years, and it's simple to put a maximizer across the master output (or even on each deck).
Its cool that Ni has added Stems but it's not on the fly yet. Perhaps this is coming down the pipe soon and when it does it will be a legitimate competitor/contender with the likes of Serato, Rekorbox, and Engine OS. The problem is that some Ni controllers may have some difficulties in effectively using stems especially when it comes to timing if you are mixing hip hop and you don't have Ni's flagship controller the S4 Mk3. Using the S3 you depend largely on using the mouse to manipulate STEMS. It's doable but, not practical. If you could map the keyboard shortcut to do it fine, even better if you map the Stems to the pads would be the best choice.
I’m a long time traktor user but stopped using it when I need to add video. I loved their compressor and limiter and using izotope ozone sounds great. I liked the UI quite a bit as well. But this update overall just makes them seem “less behind” as they’re already pretty deep in the hole. I’m currently using the advanced customization of VDJ to fill in for these areas. As VDJ supports adding VSTs I’m using the fabfilter limiters to help with that overall smoothness in volume across tracks, which perform just a little better than ozone. Still no video.
Now I really only need a controller thats like a mix between the s4 mk3 and the s8 no more screens but jogwheels and over the sample pads and loop controls i want to tow rows of noobs for the stem or rmx volumes and send efekts or filters. Shut all fitt on a pretty compact controller that can esaly be carried a few kilometers into the forest. As a Goa dj i dont really care about the flexible beat grids tho but still i'm pretty happy that there is some life signs and i am hoping for new hardware.
Wait does Spotify,Apple Music, and SoundCloud work with traktor pro 4 like the other softwares out there. Hahah I spotted that banger of a tune by Astrix the legendary psytrance wizard 🔥
@ awww man :( I was excited for a minute. I have the first gen of kontrol S4 MK1 been downloading tracks for now somehow I still have the origins software traktor pro 2 and it works well but music streaming would be an amazing edition for them to catch up with the market
first test of flexible beatgrid: - impossible to use on disco tracks (or spend 2h per track, maybe...) - deck locked: stop deck to load new track ERROR still happening... so they solved a lot of bugs, but not one that plagued Traktor Pro3 for years (and I'm lucky, I only experienced it two times at home, not during a DJ set...)
@@paxwebb No other DJ software has beat gridding like DJ Pro 5. But there windows version leaves a lot to be desired compared to the MAC/IOS version and Traktor Pro 4
⚡ TIMESTAMPS ⚡
0:00 Intro
0:23 Stems
2:09 Flexible Beatgrids
3:20 Pattern Player
4:00 Ozone Maximizer
5:31 Our thoughts..
No subscription!!! Wow! That is the best news to me 😄
And to many
I am not so sure that this is the case. It looks like a covert subscription to me. Traktor 4 is not the version that has been promised for almost two years. For me and after all I have seen in the last 24 months, this version could be called Traktor 3 Pro Plus Subscription Version 2. The subscription model must have been a disaster and that's why they have killed it. Pay now for the upgrade which coincidentally costs practically the same as the annual Plus subscription ..... who doesn't assure you and the rest that next year Traktor Pro 5 will appear with some of the new features they have been announcing (Stems and Flexible Grids don't work as expected). So next year if Traktor Pro 5 appears, I will say the same thing: It will be Traktor Pro 3 Plus Subscription Version 3.... I hope I have explained this well. They needed money now. They have also left thousands of users with a browser flickering problem that they know exists and refuse to fix in Traktor Pro 3 when the browser worked fine until version 3.4. They can't be trusted.
I got into Traktor when it was first released, no hardware and everything controlled by mouse or keyboard. Stuck with them through all the years and glad I did. Welcome v4!
mix with mouse on Traktor is amazingggg
Same, remember the brown and orange colour theme 😅
Yeah was superprecise and cool@@nhac-space
THIS IS THE BEST NEWS IN DJING IN YEARS. FOR REAL.....
This is incredible news, especially when compared to Pioneer's recent move to start gouging their customers to use hardware they already paid for. I'm so glad to see Native Instruments doing right by their customers, and it's great to finally see some benefits from the NI / Izotope merger. I'm really, really happy with this, and I bought a day 1 upgrade to thank them.
Have fun with it
I've been at it non-stop since yesterday.. and for me, personally, this is the best thing that has happened in 2024 . I feel very comfortable and content as everything works like magic.. Elated!
Thanks for sharing, glad it’s gone well
I'm happy for all Traktor users that there's progress being made! Traktor was my first digital solution and I was 'all in' for a very long time. Like many 'old skool' DJ's, I went from vinyl, to CDJ-100 / 900 etc., to Traktor.
N.I. made a series of missteps, but the biggest was probably: deciding to drop the new code base of Traktor DJ 2 in favour of returning to the old code base of Traktor Pro. I worry that may come back to haunt them, but if it doesn't, so much the better.
And good on them for listening to the community and doing away with subs. That can go a long way to buying back some good will.
I've switched to another software solution and am very happy with it, but Traktor for sure is the OG, and the UI is darn near perfect in terms of intelligibility.
They have a chance to grab some market share here we feel
@@digitaldjtips Agreed. They just need to keep building on this long awaited momentum.
Traktor was my first love in DJ software and I was a user for years before I switched to Denon. I've always hoped they would come back to current with their software so I could pull ouy my S4 again occasionally for some fun and this video made me very happy in a nostalgic way! Also really happy to see they are taking a stand against the subscription model. Good for them. I might even upgrade just to support them.
Let us know how you get on…
Been a Traktor user since 2012 and this is superb news. Let's hope they keep moving forward. Nice!
I hope so too!
Now we just need traktor to release a standalone controller, a mix between the s8 and the latest s4.
With ozone control accessible from the screens.
And of course, easy to plug a maschine +, inside, and voila, perfect hybrid setup on the go.
It would be!
I'd kill for a smaller 2 Channel version of the S5, which I really enjoyed but was still a bear to haul around everywhere.
Something sized like a Z1 with one half of an X1 on each side... Sort of like my old Novation Twitch.
Hey Phil thanks for the short review! Great news for Traktor users. And, hopefully, for more users too! Love Traktor (that I’m currently studying with your course) as it gives you a very creative approach to music, not only mixing two tracks abut also live remixes, 4 real decks and integration with other native instruments hardwares like Maschine and Komplete Kontrol!
You bet!
I've been on Traktor since 2016 and I'm SO excited about this!! The sound quality, effects and stability have made it worth sticking with it for me, as well as some of the other functions, this takes it over the top!
Great to hear! Yeah this will please lots of people for sure
Oh my god this is so welcome. Congratulations on finally shipping this, NI team. Looking forward to what comes next!
Us too
FINALLY! Been using Traktor for years but of late, not so much mainly because of Stems. My Z2 mixer still doing a perfect job. Might just need to remap to make stems control simpler. Welcome back Traktor!
Echoing the sentiments of many
I wish the stem separation was on the fly, but it we still save me time from using outside software and it will keep my beat grids and cue points. Good Job NI
It kind of is, albeit slow
Getting away from subscriptions is a big step! Note that there they still have a free demo that runs for 30 minutes at a time.
NI miss so many game changer moves. They've got komplete software / hardware, machine, traktor and now Izotopes. Integrating them to work well together is the magic I've been missing
I never liked any other software, Traktor was just intuitive for me. Glad this update finally came out!
Great to hear!
The best is back
I'm so happy Traktor finally listened to requests for Stems! I didn't want to have to make the switch back to Serato with all the hardware & software purchases! Can't wait to try this out!
Enjoy!
At least they finally delivered something. We‘ve been hearing “soon” for too long. I am fine with none real time stems if that gives us better quality.
They are semi real time…
Excellent news.
Where does Traktor 4 sit when it comes to STEMS sound quality when compared to other software?
DJ Nuo just did a very good comparison video.
Watch nuo’s review, it’s quite good, among the best
Very similar
Thank you for sharing your insights! Just got it and so glad for these upgrades.
Great to hear!
Traktor is amazing with its Pattern Player and Ozone Maximizer/Limiter, Flexible Beat Grid! Too bad the stems are not live BUT i heard a comparison of Stem extraction amongst different DJ software and Traktor came #1 for sound quality. AMAZING Traktor, I have always stuck with you and now you caught up.
They are sort of “semi real time”!
finally Traktor's back
Old tracks + Flex grids + pattern player = redrum heaven
Yes - we have played and it is a LOT of fun
Amazing news. Like most in the comments been a long time traktor user and can’t imagine playing on anything else (and I’ve tried 😂)
NI please continue with the updates and would love to see some new hardware, D2 mk2s or a Z4 mixer perhaps? Or even some good NI approved TSIs for some of the popular kit? (Denon SC players anyone?) With the flexigrids maybe get some NI approved TSIs for things like the DJM battle mixers?
I also love the drop in the disgusting subscription model. I do feel that is a big dig at serato 😂
It’s getting the jogs right… that has always been the issue
Just few months back i commented on one of ur video Traktor is Dead & u replied its may come back....something like that.....u were right,not upto the mark but its a welcome upgrades to Traktor n glad to see they havent completed neglected it as it seemed.
Yeah welcome news indeed
Very nice! Good job NI!
This is genuinely (for me, as a loyal Traktor Pro user) the most exciting thing to come out in terms of digital DJing for a decade. I've been on Traktor Pro 2 for as long as I can remember. I still use it week in week out on a Macbook Pro at gigs and it's never let me down, but I never liked the stylistic change of Pro 3, and the issues with the look of that version on Retina was a deal breaker for me.
I know the Retina thing still hasn't been addressed for v4, but there is enough about this new version with the stems, the flexible gridding, and the unlocking of the Ozone maximizer and pattern player to make me finally do the upgrade.
I am so excited and grateful to Native Instruments for finally bringing a lot of people's favourite digital DJing platform kicking and screaming into the modern age!
Retina is coming apparently
Stems ?, Flexi Beatgrids ? = that's okay 👍
No browser flicker = TOPS 👌😄
Haha!
Thank you Traktor,!!!
Glad to see Native Instruments coming back strong, when at one point it didn't look good for them moving forward..
Always had a soft spot for them since it was my first experience using control vinyl.
I may have to dust off the old fluorescent Traktor vinyl for a spin with the new software 👌
FINALLY!! flexible beatgrid!!!!
Indeed
True while you can not batch process Stems in Traktor 4 you can however process many files to be processed one after another like queueing. While processing one file I wanted to see if I could process more, so I clicked on another file to generate stems while the previous file was still generating. I did the process about four more times. The outcome was great when one file finished the other started automatically it continued this cycle without any additional interaction from me until all songs were completed "Queueing". It uses a lot of CPU but, this method works just set it and forget, and it will complete the task. I have not tried to do more than 10 files in my testing. I'm sure I will steadily increase the number to see if there is a breaking point.
This has been artificially restricted by the Traktor team for now. The tech is actually already built in as you found out.
Queing seems to be in their mind already. Why else would the statusbar show 1/1 before every task. Maybe with an early Update. Also would be great if they utilize the GPU more for Steming.
Holy crap they just went from the far behind to jumping up to date
Awesome! Just cancelled my Rekordbox subscription :-P
TRAKTOR FAM WE ARE SO BACK
AMAZING!!!!!
Traktor was the first DJ software I used and liked it a lot. I own a slew of Traktor controllers including the S4, the S8, X1 (Mk2 and Mk3), F1, Z1. I have been using them with Virtual DJ who have done a decent job of incorporating the intended functions into their software (even on the S8), giving me controller freedom and allowing me to mix and match controllers. For example, I bring my X1 to a gig where the CDJ play button is faulty so that I have a way to make sure the track will play when I hit play. I'm not crazy about having the software convert to the old stems format as it will take up way more room on my drive, duplicate the track and I think will get messy. I may go back and give it another try once they're able to figure the stems thing out... and Video would be another cool feature to add as I have transitioned to playing music videos as well... NI, are you listening? Another thing they can do to coax DJs there is to start making .tsi files for as many 3rd party controllers as possible which may or may not cannibalize their hardware sales (making this move will attract more DJs who have existing controllers and they can then market to these DJs with superior stuff from NI, but not doing it won't attract as many DJs back, so I think it's a strategic move and will also show the love to DJs who have been feeling abandoned by Native Instruments)
I am sure they will see this…
I totally i agree with you for making TSI filles for as many 3rd party controllers.
Sounds like a great update, but I'll wait a few weeks to see if there are any bugs. Yet I'm sad they still haven't implemented the recommended tracks feature they had in Traktor DJ for the Ipad 10years ago.
Yeah would be good
HOLY SHIT, DID HELL FREEZE OVER?!?!
Brrr 🥶
I've just finished implementing support for the new flexible beat grids for conversion to- and from- Traktor Pro 4. Before rolling this out as an update, the feature needs to be tested. So, I'm opening a free public beta program!
If you have a valid DJCU license and Traktor Pro 4 installed, I'd love for you to join the beta. Just send me a DM, and I'll get you the download link.
Great stuff!
Stems and the Maximizer have me feeling like a kid in a candy store. Pattern Player & Beatgrids i'm sure i will like after playing with them.
Yeah much needed innovation!
I might have to swap my S11/XP2 out for my Z2,F1,X1, Machine MK3...I do miss Traktor and Using my Z2...I still maintain that the Z2 with Traktor 3 was the best integration and control of ANY software/Hardware combo to date
There are a few good mappings from other users or mapping-services for the S11. You can maybe stick with it. But I'm totally with you. The in-universe hardware and modular extensions from NI are great.
It has lots of fans
I mapped the Numark NS4 FX to Traktor midi, works except for the LED meters
Phill you didn't cover whether they are covering all the hardware now, I'm still waiting on Denon prime series to be covered by Traktor
Doubt that will happen
Hearing the part about the flexible was a little odd to me, I've been playing open format with Traktor for 10 + years and have been able to switch between genres fine. Maybe I just need to try it out to find out what the big difference is.
It can handle changing bpms within songs for sync etc
Hey Alpha Thefta, are you watching this? No subscription!
Serato should take notes too
@@Sergio-uy4ewSerato is AlphaTheta
@@illyrodrigues9159 not yet they just want to buy it/do a merger
@@illyrodrigues9159errrr, no it isn’t
If only the mapping of the jogwheel of third party controllers was on point.
I never could make my DDJ-SR to feel good while scratching.
I hated to use Serato, but had Traktor already, so I used my SR with Traktor.
I then tried Rekordbox with it, which worked great. Plus the flexible beatgrids and sync worked exactly like in Traktor.
And now I have a FLX10...
Maybe I should try to use it with Traktor once again....
It has never been very good!
Finally 🇩🇲🇩🇲🇩🇲🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
no browser flicker?! FINALLY 😭
Been on the fence for years on jumping to serato
Looking like I’m sticking around
Lots loving this
Damn, I wonder if they'll release some new gear... I was looking to buy an S3 next month :(
Awesome!!!!
You are welcome
So if you were to edit your Best Software of 2024 vid would you revise your take on Traktor? And could you recommend it for beginners?
Yes, Traktor is now a better choice for beginners because they spent a lot of time updating it.
Thanks for Video DDT. Do you or anyone know if the Traktor F1 can be used for the pattern player??
Would love a mapping for a DDJ1000. Moved to RB5 from traktor a few years ago but would love to come back. Hate subscriptions and want to use timecode with the DDJ 👍
Consider a used S4?
@@digitaldjtips I used to have an S4, since then I've had a djm450 + xp2 & timecode. Now the ddj1000 + timecode with RB5. I love the ddj1000 but prefer the traktor software.
When pioneer future cdj's can play/separate stems then producers/record labels will release music in this format as it is the trend. Then one must ask why they didn't do it 9 years ago when Traktor introduced the feature & concept.
They won’t as there will be no need to
I love the non subscription bit. Any news on a standalone?
Doubt they'll make a standalone, but who knows?
And GUESS WHAT? They waited til the darn 50% off July sale was OVER to do this! This is kinda scummy, but yeah it's a nice upgrade. I'm still on 3 so I guess I'll show them my feelings by waiting for another sale. I've been a customer for probably 15-17 years now.
Thanks for the video Phil!
You’re welcome
So good, albeit so so so so so so sooooooo long overdue!!
Indeed!
First, I'm very pleased that NI finally got around to implementing stems. However, it seems like it's kind of clunky compared to Serato's simple real time implementation where there's so preparation ahead of time, no extra files to deal with and no cluttered display. In Serato you just click a button and you get the isolated stem (bass or vocal, etc.).
Similar functionality is hidden under the hood in Serato. But these could definitely get faster
@@digitaldjtips If the Traktor implementation gives significantly better stems audio quality, that would be a huge plus for me.
So because of that you are going to upgrade your Traktor course Right?
Of course
Yes
I have an X1 Mk2 and would like to be able to control the stems. Do I need to add an F1 to my set up? Or will NI be releasing a new mini controller soon?
You can map them to anything
I hope they come along with a z2 successor now
Wow that would be something!
What about third party hardware? Can I use my rane four?
Yes you can but you have to map the Midicontrols bei yourself and get no Display support
Looks like I can queue up multiple tracks to stem process
Yes but one by one, right?
Stems tip: As mentioned in the video you cant select a batch of files to stem separate, BUT You can select a track to Separate and whilst its separating the first track you can then add to the stem separation queue whilst its separating tracks.
Whilst its been processing a queue I have been able to ad 6 tracks to the queue..... Little work around I guess...
I was really starting to consider leaving Traktor, but using Pro 4 for the last 20 mins, Im going to see where they go with updates....
Yes that is exactly what you can do
DaaaammnnnnL !!!! just updated yesterday to v3
Email them a receipt. I bet they'll hand over upgrade to latest. Be pretty mean if they didn't
@@donkeyDangerMouse too late.
Purchased v4 yesterday. So ?
@lk0707 so what? I was just encouraging you to contact them before assuming they'd be unreasonable and deny you the upgrade to 4.
too late ffs. You should have thought a little yourself
@@donkeyDangerMouse btw upgrade is worth the price
@lk0707 no doubt. I'm excited for it. Was seriously concerned they were going to close shop
And ozone maximizer push hi freqs and it sounds very harsh when a song were originally crispy..Needs multiband maximizer.
Any chance of mapping the eqs low mid highs to do the stems instead anyone know?
upgraded last night and start analyze stems on several tracks, made lot of requests on queue and had a crash, started Traktor again and no single file presenting link to stems, the files were there, I checked... delete all stems files and start all over again, less files on queue now, lets see..... running on a M1 macbook air
It is certainly not yet perfect. A few at a time seems to be the way forward for now
Not quite true to say no other DJ software has a maximizer. VirtualDJ has been able to host VST plugins for years, and it's simple to put a maximizer across the master output (or even on each deck).
Fair point but you know what we mean
Have they fixed the flushing background glitch 😅
I think so
Word.👍✅
Does Serato have flexible beat grid? I need the flexible beat grid.
Yes
Phil, was the "Deck Lock" issue when using DVS was fixed?
That was one of the main reasons for me leaving.
Unfortunately it doesn't look like that. I've had this problem once since the update to TP4.
@@louisdefumer2827 Looks like I'm sticking with Rekordbox.
@@louisdefumer2827 Deal breaker!
Looking to upgrade
I guess there's lots of new features, but don't feel like paying 70e after buying traktor 3 just couple years ago.
oh yeah, browser flicking. so probably no fix for old traktor. feeling like I could just back down to traktor 2 since it worked and is free.
Its cool that Ni has added Stems but it's not on the fly yet. Perhaps this is coming down the pipe soon and when it does it will be a legitimate competitor/contender with the likes of Serato, Rekorbox, and Engine OS. The problem is that some Ni controllers may have some difficulties in effectively using stems especially when it comes to timing if you are mixing hip hop and you don't have Ni's flagship controller the S4 Mk3. Using the S3 you depend largely on using the mouse to manipulate STEMS. It's doable but, not practical. If you could map the keyboard shortcut to do it fine, even better if you map the Stems to the pads would be the best choice.
It is, it’s just very slow
Traktor run ting
YAAAAAAY!!! Dang, I’m in the bath. Now I’ve gotta shift my butt and go download before Traxtor charges their mind and withdraw it. BYE!
Haha
I’m a long time traktor user but stopped using it when I need to add video. I loved their compressor and limiter and using izotope ozone sounds great. I liked the UI quite a bit as well.
But this update overall just makes them seem “less behind” as they’re already pretty deep in the hole.
I’m currently using the advanced customization of VDJ to fill in for these areas. As VDJ supports adding VSTs I’m using the fabfilter limiters to help with that overall smoothness in volume across tracks, which perform just a little better than ozone.
Still no video.
Not sure video will come
A worthy upgrade, but will die a death without new hardware
Let’s see what they come up with although we still love the S4
Which Traktor controllers are supported? With v3 they ditched S2MK1 support. I got the S2MK2 and worry a little bit (still a great controller)
I still use the S2 Mk1 with Traktor 3. It works. May not be supported...but I have not needed any support.
Thank you. Good news!hope this holds true for T4, too
I had just decided to go with mixon 8 or rane four..... This could sway me back! FFS lol
Decisions…
@@digitaldjtipsindeed!
Is it available for the DDJ FLX6?
It is as it was with the previous version
@@digitaldjtips nice 💯👍🏾
Did they add retina screen support?
No but they say they are working on it
Now I really only need a controller thats like a mix between the s4 mk3 and the s8 no more screens but jogwheels and over the sample pads and loop controls i want to tow rows of noobs for the stem or rmx volumes and send efekts or filters. Shut all fitt on a pretty compact controller that can esaly be carried a few kilometers into the forest. As a Goa dj i dont really care about the flexible beat grids tho but still i'm pretty happy that there is some life signs and i am hoping for new hardware.
Let’s hope there is some more hardware around the corner!
Wait does Spotify,Apple Music, and SoundCloud work with traktor pro 4 like the other softwares out there.
Hahah I spotted that banger of a tune by Astrix the legendary psytrance wizard 🔥
Spotify doesn't work with any DJ gear, Apple Music only with djay Pro.
@ awww man :( I was excited for a minute. I have the first gen of kontrol S4 MK1 been downloading tracks for now somehow I still have the origins software traktor pro 2 and it works well but music streaming would be an amazing edition for them to catch up with the market
Can you use a numark mixtrack pro fx controller with it
No
first test of flexible beatgrid:
- impossible to use on disco tracks (or spend 2h per track, maybe...)
- deck locked: stop deck to load new track ERROR still happening... so they solved a lot of bugs, but not one that plagued Traktor Pro3 for years (and I'm lucky, I only experienced it two times at home, not during a DJ set...)
How does it compare to DJay Pro with those old disco tracks do you know?
@@paxwebb No other DJ software has beat gridding like DJ Pro 5. But there windows version leaves a lot to be desired compared to the MAC/IOS version and Traktor Pro 4
Any idea if the stems feature work with the offline locker for Beatport link?? Can you please check this out for me please
No sorry not checked yet
Will this work with the Traktor Kontrol S2 MK1 ?
Yes should
Does it mix video files yet?
No and likely never will
This could make me change from rekordbox. I use DVS and my mixer works with traktor (thus far)
Give it a go!
Will it work with the S4 MK2?
Yes
They are less behind now, S4 MK3 is my current controller.
And a good controller it is!
I think I speak for every Traktor DJ when I say: about f***ing time.
Ha ha yes 👍