The 26-hour ‘war’ that ended Portuguese rule in Goa & how NATO prevented India from acting earlier
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- On this day 62 years ago, Goa officially became part of the Union of India. In episode 941 of Cut The Clutter, first published on 16 February 2022, Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta explains how tiny state was liberated & why it took India 14 years after Independence to rid it from Portuguese rule.
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USA wants to create another War in South China sea and Indian Ocean.....But British slaves( Ghulam) Indians don't know Geopolitics now........
4:11 : No, Mr. Gupta, though you made an honest mistake. He was not the only fascist dictator to survive ww2. Actually, Francisco Franco of Spain also did, in fact Franco lived 5 years more than Salazar. And Franco did this while sharing a border with Vichy France (german puppet state).
Watching today’s print episode from Goa, bcz I’m a Goan. So happy and so proud that Shekhar ji took notice of our small yet important state, contrary to other media houses covering IPL Auction, WAR, etc. Lots of Love and support from Goa to PRINT team
Hope, whatever SG says is truth but Leftist has a character of 2 truths and 1 lie which forces us to believe, even that 1 lie is true and they tell everything politely, slowly and spin their own story which becomes addiction. Beware.
Honestly, I have given up on politics in India... But Mr Shekhar bring me back again ❤
Good call! Indian politics is not that interesting anymore -- it is stable and predictable (with some intermittent drama from the NPCs).
This is great because India has moved on from political drama to actual governance, becoming the fastest growing large economy.
Even Mr. Coupta is not claiming coup attempts by the Indian army anymore.❤
Today when India is relatively strong everyone is critical of Nehru. Imagine his plight, Pakistan a NATO ally constantly sniping at India and India not having such a strong military and also a weak economy, he was being asked to take on a NATO member. People critical of Nehru don't ask how come we have not been able to recover our Chinese occupied territories ( even if some of them were occupied in Nehru's time).
Like Prime Minister Vajpayee once said "It is very easy to start a war, but we must know how it will end" it"
You may think, going back in time. In reality, when Tibet was forcibly occupied by China, US has asked for position in India near Ladakh which Nehru refused assuming it will become another East India company. US wanted a position to counter China and USSR from going deep south. As USSR realized Nehru's mindset, they started giving their old arms to India and ready for any military support. I agree that Nehru's position was awkward, but he was not brave enough take the help of Indian army and rather believed on Krushna Menon. Everything is history. When you don't take decisions appropriately, you as a leader looses the plot and that is what can be attributed to him. Unfortunately, Indian history can be distorted and hence instead of publishing the truth, it was painted Nehru as great visionary.
But why was Pakistan the ally of NATO? Eisenhower tried to be a friend. But Nehru was considered massively prickly. It's as if we are ignoring the character of this incredibly vain man who isolated so many capable men while running after such absolute communist trash as Krishna Menon
What the hell are you talking about? Pakistan was never a NATO member. Also, NATO is a defence pact predominantly concerned with defence affairs in Europe and the US. Other than involving itself in the ousting of Gaddafi in Libya, it has never involved itself in the affairs of Asia! Are you smoking drugs or something?
@@SV-wu2my You say that with hindsight. Who knows what the US would have done.
Nobody would want a buffer war here.
You should have given some credit to Krishna Menon, the then Defence Minister , who prevailed upon Jawaharlal Nehru that it was time to use force.
Sir, also would have been worth while mentioning some Maharashtrian activist and revolutionaries like Senapati, Bapat and Gomantak movement.
What to expect from a Delhi based journalist
Ideology don't permit that
Its worthy to mention here the atrocities of Portuguese captured so well in the MOG, the museum of Goa
“The tolerance to corruption among people of Goa is very high. We are sitting idle, as there is not a single complaint of bribery or disproportionate assets in the state against officers from the people for the past five years,”
- superintendent of police (SP) of CBI in Goa, Ashesh Kumar, TOI 3 Nov, 2022
Thank you for this great work.
Sir, plz make video on "Moplah hindu " Genocide and so called mahatma gandhis take on that so that our secular hindus mind will open little bit
Don't bring such unsecular things on our secular platform print. Haven't you learned nothing from the uber-wise Gupta ji?
High hopes.
That incident was already painted as it's just a farmer agitation against most cruel hindu zamindars by many liberals like Gupta.
@@nicolasflamel3489 He has😂😂😂😂. Moplah victims were all uber rich. Why?
Another RSS propaganda
Thank you shekar sir for bringing up goa a tiny state.Good to know about the past history.
Thank you, Prakash, for watching and writing in...best wishes, Shekhar
Salacar was not the only significant dictator in Europe to have survived WW2. General Franco of Spain also did and he seems to be more significant than Salacar.
Salgaoncar?
what else do you expect from a nehru apologist narrative. good research?!
Shekhar Gupta. The best political storyteller (English) in India.
Fascinating - As always. Thank you.
Mr Gupta you did not mention that the first free elections were held in Goa shortly after its liberation and a non-Congress party the MGP, came into power. Portugal had to wait till the mid-1970s for its first truly democratically elected government. It is the only instance in the world where a former colony adopted democracy before the colonial power. The election in Goa softened anti-India feelings in several western countries, and showed the difference between Nehru the democrat, and Salazar the dictator.
Revisiting History so also your publication 😊 🙏✍️🙏
We reunited Goa with the motherland but not the hearts and minds of the Goan people after the police action, we should have offered Goa special status like Nagaland . India is just like Europe , an malaamaton of civilisationally similar states, united in purpose but different . Safeguarding the culture, diversity and heritage of each state was paramount
Goa is RSS state, unlike Nagaland.
....now worst trying to impose the hindi - hindu sentiment in the country.
In hindsight it would have been tremendously favorable for India if Goa had stayed in Portuguese hands. It is such a small piece of land compared to India. Imagine a door to the commercial powerhouse Europe directly in front of you. Shengen Visa issued upon arrival in Goa from anywhere in India. Tourism alone would be making the area rich beyond imagination. But then again hindsight is always 20/20.
I've read Patel a life by Rajmohan Gandhi and other Patel's biographies which clearly indicate that Sardar Patel wanted Goa's liberation much earlier and it was ONLY Nehru who opposed it and delayed it (before NATO even got created which happened in 1949) in 1948.
of course, it's a different matter that timing of Goa's liberation was before 1962 election (which helped Nehru/Krishna Menon) and it proved BAD for India as it made Nehru confident in dealing with China (forward policy) and made China think India will attack it, precipitating 1962 war that led to India's defeat (not a theory. but explained clearly in JFK's forgotten war by Bruce Riedel. This sounds again like, defend Nehru episode, pretty much, by a old lutyen media
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Great.
RSS ko jana tha
Exactly nehru shoe...
Much earlier? Patel died on 15 December 1950. He had not cleared French till then, who were much more open to leaving. All that was done under Nehru. You have simply discounted all good arguments for avoiding early Goa liberation and started pointing towards "intentions" which somehow you know. And so it may not be your theory, but it is Bruce Riedel theory which somehow for you is Gospel.
And then you somehow link it with China war as well. China attacked us in a place where it had prepared well and India simply had no quick way to react. The "defeat" was primarily because of the cease fire. In fact, by 1967 India had plugged many holes along that front
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathu_La_and_Cho_La_clashes
So Nehru was the best there was. I would have done almost everything as Nehru given the situation of the time and the international situation.
As far as 1962 election is concerned, Nehru didn't need a war to win it. There was no one apart from Congress who controlled India. Congress got 361 and CPI 29 seats. So please stop spinning stories
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1962_Indian_general_election
@@brahm-ahamasmi Please stop. I wont listen to your stories. Sab Nehru aur Edwina ki galti
Nice recollections , educative
Come to the point, why we took so long to liberate Goa?!!!
Nahry ki galoti kebabs😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@sauron2000000cope dirty spammer
nepotism & coloniality.
NATO
Nicely illustrated
I have some friends from Goa who complain India captured Goa illegally and India must liberate them, I dunno what to tell them
Tell them to fuck off to Portugal then and sell their asses!
They can go to Portugal.
Then why didn't India take Bangladesh in 1971.
The did not hold any plebicite to see what the Goan people wanted.
I suspect Goans would have wanted independence supported by the Delhi-state.
@@alani3992 Actually it was the Goans particular the Southern Goans and non-Catholics who request Nehru to invade, but he took forever.
Thank you sir!
Please do video on the unprecedented opposition MPs suspension.
He will not, for obvious reasons 😊
A rare good piece from Gupta ji. 😊
Super presentation,
Sir.
Truly a great capture of history
Outstanding!
Very interesting video ❤
Any plan to do show on whats happening in Parliament?
EMOTIONS not REALISM governed India's foreign policy during this era😮
No mention of the Britshits (spelling intentional) sending their navy to try and help the Portuguese, Guptaji?
Really? You're kidding me? The bastards!
Your efforts cannot be equalised. Great journalism
Thank you
I would prefer Goa to be part of Portugal.
Whatever we Indians manage, it is in shambles.
Most wonderful analysis on the goan history😊most indians don't know about why it took 14 years... Kennedy was a great friend of India but Nehru was too OBTUSE ans stupid not to take advantage😢😢😢😢
These are the freedom fights where socialist and sangh swayamsevak fought together... they won the fight much easily in dadara nagar haveli... but goa was difficult... they fought continuously... many great attists like lata mangeshkar, Mohammad rafi etc all given them support to keep activity on. Sudhir fadke marathi famous singer done singing shows to get information, maps and connection in goa to use for thse fights. I have met those freedom fighters even after 2014, government recognized them as freedom fighters and given award to them by president. In goa, who got caught those suffered a lot in those 15 years but even Indian people doesn't know this and doesn't know how people just done everything in their power to get freedom without no any government support. Even succeeded in dadara nagar haveli but failed in goa and got suffered saviourly for 15 years.
The point is not whether it is a Portuguese colony or Indian colony, the point is are the people better off
Its a high GDP state, so it also contributes towards the North-Indian colonial state.
Why is SG MIA when some of the most important news are breaking 😅😅
Sir any CTC on the harrasment of Governors by state governments, earlier in Bengal and now in Kerala
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24:15 "we really put our hairs down - his line, not my line" 😂
Shekar Gupta's sense of humour😅😂😂
24:12 " we also put our hair down"
Shekar: "his line not my line"
Look what Goa has become today , riddled with crime and criminals of all types many of them flocking from other parts of the country, rule of law has been kept aside in so many ways and instances, Goa is now fast going/gone down the drain with utter disregard for the environment and nature.... ask native Goan person born before two to three generations and he/she is sad at todays state of affairs , a treaty was signed to join the union of India with then existing rules and codes now largely swept below the carpet... this is what our forefathers/Goan freedom fighters had not fought for and drove the colonials away... it is indeed a sad state of affairs today and the day is not far away true Goans and their unique identity will go extinct.....
@Shekhar ji you left out Franco who was another major Fascist leader to survived WW2.
Time to recognise pinto, braganza for all their struggle
Its again and yet again a point to be reiterated when our history books dont capture these very vital events of history, except a mild mention as part of GK qn that French ruled this this, Portuguese ruled this and that. We are still balming West through our history books than,calling spade a spade.
Our forefathers have fought for the liberation of Goa in vain. Today Goa police and the government machinery is supporting the law breakers, criminals and the real estate mafia especially from Delhi. Law and order has gone for a toss under the current government. Loads of suitcases packed with cash exchange the hands of criminals and politciansand also police. Those who are having retirement homes in Goa get no sleep as music blares above 80 decibels every night non stop despite the High court ruling to stop all music after 10PM.
...the hindi belt will ruin the country...
Ministry has releases a new LEADS ranking for logistics among states in India
Can you do a CTC on that? Worthy topic since the narrative is current govt doing more for infra push. Wanted to check if the narrative is true to every word
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.... Goa was ANNEXED
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18:51 Cuncolim not Candolim
French had Chandannagore in West Bengal which was ceded only in 1950
I think it's a rare opportunity to correct you SG ..... Franco outlived Hitler ,Salazar and ruled well into the 1970s
You don't have to negotiate to take what is yours.
JLN soul might be astonished by what SG knows about his, Indian, Portugal, USA, NATO, Pak, SETO etc. thinking if he (JLN) known so much then Goa would have been like J&K and JLN would have had fun time even now looking at the mess.
Just take it(Goa Or J&K etc..)what is yours first otherwise it turns out to be a issue forever.
Salazar in Portugal and Franco in spain... Not only Salazar
Portugal was part of NATO and India's aggression would have meant a combined response from NATO nations
@3:36 Truth comes out, but SG measured it diplomatically.
Congratulations to Indians for kicking out the Colonialist Powers.
The detail about protection of NATO members' mainland, but not their colonies is really important.
hi, shekhar , tippu was born in 1751 and died in 1799. How can Pinto Movement took help from tippu in the year 1718.. Please let me know....... 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
Goa needs liberation from CORRUPT politicians..
Couldn't agree more. Goa was actually the first state to go Congress mukt in 2012. The 35000 crore mining scam accused Congress Govt was booted out of power. It's a sad tragedy that the greedy Congressmen made a backdoor entry into the BJP.
@@sankalp6872
Just like BJP embraced Ajit Pawar?
@@mg.f.9023 Yes, but less severe than Congress embracing the secular Shiv Sena or Rahul Gandhi hugging Lalu Prasad Yadav after his public stunt of tearing the then Manmohan Singh Govt ordinance specifically designed to allow Lalu to contest elections.
@@sankalp6872
Corrupt is corrupt there is no more or less corrupt... So lets not crown the politicians with a hallow because they belong to the party you support..
@@mg.f.9023 Nope. Corruption is as old as politics itself. Hence, it's important to make a pragmatic choice - choosing the least worst option. Even Kejriwal is a liquor scam king. Everyone knows how Sahu made 400 crore cash and why he is so important to Congress. Hiding behind quotes doesn't cover your biases.
I don't know why we are not able to answer the question of why Goa was not liberated during Indian independence in 1947. The Indian independence was(should have been) about having independence from all western colonization. I am sensing appeasement and character building exercise instead of nation building.
For all practical purpose, the imperial European powers, dictatorship or democracies, lost their colonial possession due to only one real and culturally true, democracy - the US.
And thankfully, WW2 made it the superpower while reducing all the colonial powers to pauper - economically, militarily and culturally.
American President Franklin Roosevelt and his non compromising pressure on the supremacist, colonialist British PM Winston Churchill, apparently elected by a democracy - led to Indias Freedom. Not some pacifist movement in India.
Maybe it is time we recognize his contribution and make a grand statue of Franklin Delano Roosevelt in our capital city to honor his memory.
Unfortunately he died early and not witnessing the actual freedom of the colonies.
This also tells us, democracy or dictatorship - it makes no difference for a state to its greed, colonization and loot of other nations.
None of these things led to India's freedom
What led to its freedom was the fact that Hirohito and Hitler started a world war which ravaged Europe to hell
@@AKu-xs5vg please read Winston Churchill 5 volume epic on ww2. To understand the dynamics of European imperialists and the only pressure to release the colonies, particularly India.
Yes Europe was ruined, imperialist ate each other making them weak. But that also means continued loot of the colonies.
But that did not happen.
Another force that helped the colonies to freedom is the emergence of Soviets. USSR.
On their own, non of the colonies are capable of achieving freedom from their colonial masters.
Militarily or politically or administratively.
Shekhar gupta sir , I would request you to make an analysis series of Indian politicians
Particularly nehru, indira , rajiv ..
to some extent about narshimaha rao & Dr. Manmohan singh
because there is always a cncipracy theory thrown out by bjp
On the other hand
Sardar patel , shastri , vajpayee
People across party line revere them
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What about Falkland ? Please enlighten me.
18:48 Sir please check the date of pinto conspiracy
It's not matching with tipu's reign
SG where are you going 😮
23:25 who sent them sardar Patel
Surprisingly Print host is accepting the Neharuvian blunders against their ideology and support.
Gupta ji, we already have given tbe benefit of doubut to both Panditji snd Mrs. Indira Gandhi. Better toes with the West and America have been a saga of lost opportunities, but the fault only lay partially with Nehru, and a minor onr at that. The greater nlame for theissed opportunities lie swuarely euth the choices Anerica made anf there really was mo way India could have gone along with America. The shenanigans over Goa were a piece of American chouces then.
The shenanigans over Gurpatwant Sibfh Pannu is a piece of American cjoices now.
Apparently Portuguese were more brutal towards native Indians than Brits .
Pandit ji had the courage to send in Indian army and capture Goa however fleeing Portuguese took all the Gold within their vaults back .
Gold were later retrieved by the help of then President of India late Venkatraghavan .
Who is President Venkat Raghavan?
@@padmakumarvadhyar7656indian cricket umpire
@@padmakumarvadhyar7656Apologies - Venkat Raman
@@padmakumarvadhyar7656 Friend of president Chandrashekar
The Portuguese purposely took all the Gold with them bcoz the Indian Army was raping & looting the Goans left and right. The Gold was deposited as a security against monetary loans and were rightfully returned by the Portuguese to its owners after the war was ended.
Shekhar why don’t you talk about your role during Hindu genocide in Kashmir? Why you never wrote or did anything about it? Your complacency as a stooge of Congress to look the other way
Exactly taklu will never talk about Hindu genocides.
Now the Indian govt.has destroyed Goa. Look at the shabby state nd also the miseries of Goans.
We also have a very inefficient CM. as well as the rest of the ministers.Cry my beloved Goa.
Those who don't participated in freedom struggle, those who always gave der support to British are the one who make noise about petroitism.
They have one Savarkar for der entire ideology and still he was with British after 1920.
He even got pension from British. I don't know what SEVA he was doing for British.
While Nehru was wining and dining with the British... Go eat some chaara from Lalu
This is why I have the greatest respect for the likes of Nehru.
Nehru was a deeply flawed man, who was perhaps not the correct man to lead an already independent country toward progress.
But in hindsight, his largest achievement was to be one of the very few people to lead a former British colony into an (eventually) successful, peaceful democratic nation.
Nativated Huge Linguistic & Cultural Divide into A Today's Union of India
Correct. Absolutely. He provided stability in the early stages when democracy was the most fragile. He helped build institutions that safeguard democracy, and though he could have turned to autocracy, he served the cause of the people at least in building a new democracy. About his policies though, especially foreign policies leave too much to be desired. But credit where credit is due.
Peaceful you mentioned ?
Just think of the trauma of Partition on the western and eastern front in 1947 .
@@tapemaj It would have happened anyway
I was expecting at some point he'd touch on the persecution of Hindus by Portugese in goa, and other laws of subjugation. But that's too much to expect from nehru apologist narrative.
Goa is Portugal!
So we handed over a third of the geography to Muslims. And also Waited till Goans were Openly anti-India.
The problem is that’s we Indians want to blame “others” for the problem .
JK, Junagadh, Bhopal, 24:56
Just Geopolitics?.
We should call it the Delhi-state.
Nepal is also Indian, why not annex it.
Portugal would have been wise to grant independence.
Shekhar Gupta can't even get himself to say priest he has to consciously say pastor - such is the infiltration of hindutva even among professionals as good as Shekhar.
What was the point of this video again?
Liberation is actually Annexation in International Law. Infact India was the first country to disregard the United Nations Charter.
It was a big mistake. But give it time to play out.
Lol. 141 parliamentarians suspended. But Mr. Gupta wants to talk trivia. Not important enough, I guess...
India conquered Goa
1787* tippu
I would like for you to actually judge Nehru. Let us see what comes off that.
Fact is Goa was Invaded by india with 45,000 soldiers in 1961, u don't send that many soldiers to liberate any territory, and then within a year China invaded Aksai chin till date india badly cries for that part...
Lol you want to take back Goa, then come and try again 😂😂😂😂
Neharu Gandhi , so called the first famiky and its obedient servants !
While NATO prevented indians from liberating GOA earlier, I wonder what is preventing indians from liberating POK and Aksai Chin from pakistan and china? 😂
Pacifist Modi
Forget Aksai Chin, China has occupied several areas last few years.
What...???
Long time since economy CTC.. no more doomsday analysis nor comparison with favorite Pakistan..
Franco lasted longer and was also a fascist and didn't take sides either
Nehru was real gaddar anti hindu and fattu, him being first PM was thing and drag India down. His khangress party made everything to demean Bharat.
When I hear these 100% prophets, I wake up from my enlightened (false, of course) status into reality. And I realize that I cannot rely on my own brain ever, forget about a head that has lost all its credibility.... the hair. When you have a bunch of liars, lying in sequence, one after the other, you have no choice but to choose the latest liar for "up-to-date" reliability. Assuming that we have finally found truth, I am waiting for the next hero to debunk the claims.
Keep up to date folks! Let them keep rewriting history, while you lull yourself to sleep.
Shouldn't today you talk about the MPs being suspended in bulk. Goan history seems less important than what is happening right now
141 MPs Suspended today. Surely this topic was less important, Sir ???
Spineless Neharu with veated interests delayed the intogration of Goa
Haha Uncle is the only one out of touch with reality and news in India. Talks about goa when democracy is in danger 😅
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He is afraid.
@@alani3992 Paapi pet ka sawaal hai for Shekhar ji. 🤓
Nehru was the best thing that happened to independent India. My respect for the man keeps skyrocketing with each passing day.
Nehru king of blunders gave pok lost cok
@@gyanendrakumarsatapathy4257 sorry I don't argue with WhatsApp University graduates. Pls go read nehru. The man was a visionary beyond time
I share your sentiments. He was a quite wonderful human being and leader.
Hello Edwina khoon ki Eid ki kashmir mein 70 saal thi.or aksai chin mein abhi bhi. Tibet kaun Diya Dalai ko beghar bana Diya.
Nehru attacked & captured many regions, bombed Mizoram & Nagaland to annex, & later Sikkim & Goa.
First!
Portuguese Empire was one of the worst empires on earth.
You did not highlight the most important part of the letter and that is Nehru's fear of Pakistani army and it's alliance with US.
Salazaar = modi 😂😂!!
Silly Sekhar, what kinds of Congress apologia and concocted defence of indefensible persona and their actions/inaction’s of history! Even his so called recalling of facts from history is so selective. He remembers Johar Mahmood in Goa but not Saat Hindustani!
Saat Hindustani although the debut film of Amitab bacchan was a big Flop, no body remembers it