Chad's been to Ducati HQ in the UK for the launch of the Monster SP, not the best of conditions to ride a bike like this. We feel a group testing in the planning! #ducati #ducatimonster #monster
@@TheMissendenFlyer to be honest, you could have just as much fun on an original 1100 hypermotard for 5K, love those things!!! You heading to the show over the weekend?
Ducati's pricing for all their range of bikes are out to lunch. Just compare the new full throttle scrambler and compare it to the Monster, and then the StreetFighter V2. It does have a fuel gauge however. 😜
@@robnobbycrawford4378 MT is a better bike, much quicker up the power range. Better suspension than standard monster. My MT high up the range was quicker than my mates 890R.
Lovely but the base model V4 isn't far from the price of it,,suppose it depends on what you want,, the V2 street fighter,,is pretty similar,,most stuff that price is out of my range,,but it's nice to see new stuff ☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland 😁
Ive had my ‘22 Hyper SP for 18months and it feels like this Monster SP is really a Hyper for vertically challenged and smaller people with reduced weight and lower ride height with the same bonkers ride a Hyper. I need to test one
Naked bike group test will be epic. This. New triumph. Mt09-sp. 890. Yeehaw! I'm not calling it a "middle weight " test, because these bikes are almost 1000cc (except the trumpy). We're spoiled for choices!
Nice review. Really like this bike & agree with your preference for level of performance for the road as well as riding on your own at semi-sensible speeds. I'd definitely be considering getting one of these if it didn't cost a bomb.
They have pushed the price close to the Streetfighter, they should have put the cam profile fro the Streetfighter to make the extra cost more worthwhile.
nice and to the point! i am a bit disappointed because despite the improvements the engine remains the same - the 1200 version is not there any more, so i was hoping for an engine with improved specs on the SP version for the price. Still, it is an awesome bike. On the other hand so are the MT09 SP and KTM 890 R and they are also bit cheaper .. and tbh the V2 SF looks also appealing 🤪
I have the standard 2021 937 in red. Put the termi full system on mine (that test bike only has the slip ons). Also put a ohlins steering damper ( a must have on this bike) also a ducati tank mounted small bag. So all mine is missing now is the fancy suspension and brakes but I think the standard ones are just fine. All the Ducati SP models are rip off's - but if people are paying (and they are) Ducati will supply them.
Comes down to preference looks wise, and maybe riding position. I would go for hypermotard of the two, more unique bike. Both are awesome. I got the Suzuki gsx s1000 2022 because I cant get desmo service in this part of the country.
If had that kind of money to give for a bike it wouldn’t be this one for sure, if ducati wants to double down on being exotic and premium this doesn’t cut it, mv agusta does it better
Hopelessly overpriced where I live - 30% more than a Duke 890 R or the new Street RS. For the same money I could buy a brand new MT-10, fit better pads + braided lines and still have enough money for +400 litres of petrol. That should be about enough to power the MT-10 for a whole month 😂
I'm always disappointed when the media is afraid to give a real review. No one can actually believe this is the true heritage of Monster and not point out how disappointing it is with regards to the new 890 KTM. I love my Ducati Monster and this is a very sad day (and review).
We're not afraid to do anything, Chad did say it'll be interesting to see how it compares to the KTM, we will not do a direct comparison unless we ride the other bike on the same day.
So the fuel tank to me looks like a bad choice building a StreeFighter Hunch Back of Nostradame, ugh and I have always liked the Monster range since my first ever Ducati the first 600cc when ten years old.
I think losing the trellis has removed one of the best visual cues of the Monster, what a shame, looks just like every other naked now, more like a Suzuki than a Duke IMO :-(
£14K OMG. My new Hayabusa only cost a grand more, and I know which one I prefer...all day long. You can keep you Monster bike with its Monster price Due-Kat-E
Here in Italy this bike is absolutely overpriced, around 3000 euros more than the new street triple rs. I won't believe it's worth the price difference, especially since it has 20 HP less
I agree. The price of a Termi exhaust nowadays is extortionate! (The one for the new Diavel V4 is £5,000!) Ohlins and the exhaust and a few decals for this, £3K? I'd take the standard bike and find a cheaper aftermarket exhaust personally. I notice that this one still sounds like a sewing machine even with the upgraded exhaust. (That's Euro 5 for you)
@@shanestewart4905 and what’s not premium about it? Öhlins suspension, steering damper, Brembo brakes, v2 engine, manufactured in Europe by European people that receive european salaries? Get a pay raise, bitter boy.
@@Asgardsrei You assume too much. Having the means often means being wise enough to acquire those means. Paying over the odds for a collection of parts that might only be slightly better than a less showy version at half the cost makes little financial sense to me. Groove on Fanboy.
Chuck it against the moto2 similar value and see how it holds up bet it would get lapped Ducati are silly nowadays especially with the model of buy another bike until you can afford a Ducati
I Agree. It looks ok but the character is lost. The monster was a chunky roadster/street mix. And with the trellis frame gone and that jacked up rear there is no heritage left.
Damn it. It's ugly. That really hurts my heart. I've been debating on the MT09, FTR1200, SV1100, GSX S1000/R750 and Duke 890... etc. So far the FTR has been the most fun hooligan wise, but a Duke is hilariously light and agile. The Ducati always peaked my interest but as an automotive photographer it HAS TO LOOK GOOD! The FTR leads that category in spades. Damn it. I'm sure it's fantastic to ride though, but I won't pay that much for a date with the ugly girl.
Tickles mar pickle chad👌 Little bit nosey✓ The gold stuff✓ Termis r sexy✓ yes they are different to the set that comes with the full fat system but be ample for mar knackered 45yrold bones.✓ plus im deaf😂 Bit more sexy than me old 765rs imo On me watch list at Stalkers dealerhip 14bags ay nearly 30.plenty left for bits and motion lotion. Big fat yes for me👍
Ugly motorcycle since they get rid of trellis frame ! Used to have 2002 916 sena edition monster with all goodies and carbon fibers but this, well I like engine but I do not like anything else. If I will get to naked category again which I will not then Japanese motorcycle is way to go.
What a lovely bit of kit - I loved the standard bike, I'd love a tickle on one of those puppies....great review as ever Chad and the guys.....
It’s a great bike, people will have issues with the price though.
@@BikeWorldTVshow Yes it's a lot of money for a weekend toy isn't it....shame, I rather fancy one.
@@TheMissendenFlyer to be honest, you could have just as much fun on an original 1100 hypermotard for 5K, love those things!!! You heading to the show over the weekend?
@@BikeWorldTVshow Sadly not - life getting in the way...!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Life does that!
I am with you on that one, rarely above the ton these days, 105 bhp on my first gen street triple does me just fine!
We're heading out to Spain in a few days to ride the new Street, look out for that one...
@@BikeWorldTVshow Brilliant, look forward to watching it! 🤙💦
@@BikeWorldTVshow*rubs hands eagerly
Ducati's pricing for all their range of bikes are out to lunch. Just compare the new full throttle scrambler and compare it to the Monster, and then the StreetFighter V2. It does have a fuel gauge however. 😜
Real world review right there - spot on!
I owned the standard 937 and I had it for 8 months before swapping it for an MT09SP and my goodness the MT was much better, quicker and more torque
I currently have the MT , Yamahas quality ,spec and pricing is hard to beat , and Yamaha dealers always seem happy to do a deal
@@robnobbycrawford4378 MT is a better bike, much quicker up the power range. Better suspension than standard monster. My MT high up the range was quicker than my mates 890R.
Duke 890r faster and more brutal power🤘
if it had a single sided swing arm it would be nearly perfect
Cool.
Looking forward to the Duke 890R comparison.
I still miss the trellis frame but this new monster is growing on me. Especially this SP version!
If they hadn't changed the tank and the frame at the same time....
Looks nice, I wonder how it compares to a stock mt10 as they are under £14k
It pales.
Lovely but the base model V4 isn't far from the price of it,,suppose it depends on what you want,, the V2 street fighter,,is pretty similar,,most stuff that price is out of my range,,but it's nice to see new stuff ☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland 😁
Ive had my ‘22 Hyper SP for 18months and it feels like this Monster SP is really a Hyper for vertically challenged and smaller people with reduced weight and lower ride height with the same bonkers ride a Hyper. I need to test one
Naked bike group test will be epic.
This. New triumph. Mt09-sp. 890.
Yeehaw!
I'm not calling it a "middle weight " test, because these bikes are almost 1000cc (except the trumpy).
We're spoiled for choices!
That's the issue, what do you call them now?
I debated on first year of this Monster or the Duke 890r, the 890r has been a riot so far!
Nice review. Really like this bike & agree with your preference for level of performance for the road as well as riding on your own at semi-sensible speeds. I'd definitely be considering getting one of these if it didn't cost a bomb.
It looks just like my F800R...which I love. Great review as always.
I was thinking that...my brother owns an F800R
@@BibtheBoulder I think I have the nicest looking one in Red and Brushed aluminum.
@@granty1150gs My brother has a boring grey one.But he rates it.
The price is crazy, even for Ducati.
Their response Is buy another bike until you can afford a Ducati great sales model 😂
Yeah, 2023 increases ar crazy, same thing for Harley and many others.
@@pierfrancescotancredi8353 not uncommon to see bikes at 20k+ now getting silly
Yes you’d have to really want one, makes the SFV2 seem like value
CR-V msrp is up 25% since 2020, prices are crazy everywhere.
“My friends, hello friends”. 👍🤪🇨🇦
They have pushed the price close to the Streetfighter, they should have put the cam profile fro the Streetfighter to make the extra cost more worthwhile.
nice and to the point!
i am a bit disappointed because despite the improvements the engine remains the same - the 1200 version is not there any more, so i was hoping for an engine with improved specs on the SP version for the price. Still, it is an awesome bike. On the other hand so are the MT09 SP and KTM 890 R and they are also bit cheaper .. and tbh the V2 SF looks also appealing 🤪
in my country this beauty cost less than a mt 09 sp. I will definitely consider buying one.
I have the standard 2021 937 in red. Put the termi full system on mine (that test bike only has the slip ons). Also put a ohlins steering damper ( a must have on this bike) also a ducati tank mounted small bag. So all mine is missing now is the fancy suspension and brakes but I think the standard ones are just fine. All the Ducati SP models are rip off's - but if people are paying (and they are) Ducati will supply them.
Does it have cruise control? I have a 2004 monster, I wouldn’t mind the new version, but I want cruise control
Ducati Monster SP or Hypermotard 950 SP??
There's a question, what do you think?
I wonder the same
Comes down to preference looks wise, and maybe riding position. I would go for hypermotard of the two, more unique bike. Both are awesome. I got the Suzuki gsx s1000 2022 because I cant get desmo service in this part of the country.
Hypermotard any day!
Hypermotard every day of the week
Thank You Almighty God, I will buy one for myself
Looks pretty cool but this is ain’t Monster 1200.
AMEN!
Isn’t an S4RS either
Looks like it's had a lift kit fitted!
I hope there is some more ground clearance, because that was the biggest problem on the standard bike... I fucked up 2 gear shifters on track :P
If had that kind of money to give for a bike it wouldn’t be this one for sure, if ducati wants to double down on being exotic and premium this doesn’t cut it, mv agusta does it better
The elephant in the room… How is the “heat” issue with this Monster SP?
Hopelessly overpriced where I live - 30% more than a Duke 890 R or the new Street RS.
For the same money I could buy a brand new MT-10, fit better pads + braided lines and still have enough money for +400 litres of petrol.
That should be about enough to power the MT-10 for a whole month 😂
Oh man, if you're getting this over a one or two year old Hypermotard SP, there's something wrong with you
We do love a Hypermotard!
If uou are buying a motard i would say the same
I'm always disappointed when the media is afraid to give a real review. No one can actually believe this is the true heritage of Monster and not point out how disappointing it is with regards to the new 890 KTM. I love my Ducati Monster and this is a very sad day (and review).
We're not afraid to do anything, Chad did say it'll be interesting to see how it compares to the KTM, we will not do a direct comparison unless we ride the other bike on the same day.
So the fuel tank to me looks like a bad choice building a StreeFighter Hunch Back of Nostradame, ugh and I have always liked the Monster range since my first ever Ducati the first 600cc when ten years old.
I think losing the trellis has removed one of the best visual cues of the Monster, what a shame, looks just like every other naked now, more like a Suzuki than a Duke IMO :-(
Ducati brutale
£14K OMG. My new Hayabusa only cost a grand more, and I know which one I prefer...all day long. You can keep you Monster bike with its Monster price Due-Kat-E
How tall are you?
Is this one really worth that 3500 quid over the MT-09 SP?
Here in Italy this bike is absolutely overpriced, around 3000 euros more than the new street triple rs. I won't believe it's worth the price difference, especially since it has 20 HP less
Toys and bling aside, 14k? Double a Hornet for double the bike? I think not. Outrageous pricing of these sunny day toys.
I agree. The price of a Termi exhaust nowadays is extortionate! (The one for the new Diavel V4 is £5,000!) Ohlins and the exhaust and a few decals for this, £3K? I'd take the standard bike and find a cheaper aftermarket exhaust personally. I notice that this one still sounds like a sewing machine even with the upgraded exhaust. (That's Euro 5 for you)
It’s a Ducati! It’s a premium brand. Plus, inflation is real.
@@Asgardsrei Premium prices always mean a premium product don't they..?
Fill yer boots fan boy.
@@shanestewart4905 and what’s not premium about it? Öhlins suspension, steering damper, Brembo brakes, v2 engine, manufactured in Europe by European people that receive european salaries?
Get a pay raise, bitter boy.
@@Asgardsrei You assume too much. Having the means often means being wise enough to acquire those means. Paying over the odds for a collection of parts that might only be slightly better than a less showy version at half the cost makes little financial sense to me. Groove on Fanboy.
By abandoning lineage to build an MT09 clone, they only gave consumers more reason to go Yamaha.
Huh?
Chuck it against the moto2 similar value and see how it holds up bet it would get lapped Ducati are silly nowadays especially with the model of buy another bike until you can afford a Ducati
Where is Chris!?
He's teaching for BMW in Portugal, back in a couple of weeks.
Nice bike but way, way over priced. Ktm 890 Duke r is cheaper and miles better.
I can't figure out what it is but I just don't like the look of it, somehow it looks like a cheap bike.
None of the new Ducatis looks as good as previous years. They're starting to look like Japanese styling.
It looks like anybodys bike.It not what the Monsters used to look like,that engine is half hidden,no trellis framework.Not for me,sorry...
I Agree. It looks ok but the character is lost. The monster was a chunky roadster/street mix. And with the trellis frame gone and that jacked up rear there is no heritage left.
I think the Indian ftr 1200 is more Monster than this.
@@pierfrancescotancredi8353 I agree.Thats a stunning bike👍
The price is as salty as the roads!
🤣
Sheesh, the 821 looks better than this bland
I think I prefer this to a Streetfighter v2
why ?
It would be a much better road bike but the V2 is much much more desirable despite really being a gutless wonder unless you rev the hell of it
Shame it looks the way it looks, no trellis frame and a hefty price tag, I mean why would you just because its a Due-cat-teeee
I'll give you 8k
And without cruise control I won't even consider it! Too many mountain bike injuries to not have CC...
Ouch 14k
Still looks like a Hyosung unfortunately
no trellis frame, no single swing arm. no character NOPE!
6:22: i don't much care for the way that rear number plate is flapping about............
..........and 6:28.................
Damn it. It's ugly.
That really hurts my heart. I've been debating on the MT09, FTR1200, SV1100, GSX S1000/R750 and Duke 890... etc.
So far the FTR has been the most fun hooligan wise, but a Duke is hilariously light and agile. The Ducati always peaked my interest but as an automotive photographer it HAS TO LOOK GOOD! The FTR leads that category in spades.
Damn it. I'm sure it's fantastic to ride though, but I won't pay that much for a date with the ugly girl.
Before you buy that FTR do yourself a favor and read about the reliability.
i would pick Scout 1100 over FTR1200 anyday, i have seen both in flesh, FTR's build / finish quality is suspect
Tickles mar pickle chad👌
Little bit nosey✓
The gold stuff✓
Termis r sexy✓ yes they are different to the set that comes with the full fat system but be ample for mar knackered 45yrold bones.✓ plus im deaf😂
Bit more sexy than me old 765rs imo
On me watch list at Stalkers dealerhip
14bags ay nearly 30.plenty left for bits and motion lotion.
Big fat yes for me👍
Man that’s ugly
Trying to get people used to electric bike styles 👎
Not the prettiest
Is this the future ? reviews without Chris ? He’s the only reason to watch this channel tbh
He’s only in Portugal teaching for a month, he’ll be back soon.
@@BikeWorldTVshow awesome 😃
Doesnt look like its worth the money
Ugly motorcycle since they get rid of trellis frame ! Used to have 2002 916 sena edition monster with all goodies and carbon fibers but this, well I like engine but I do not like anything else. If I will get to naked category again which I will not then Japanese motorcycle is way to go.
Great review, ugly bike and your riding position in corners...oh my...
It's not a monster without a trellis frame. Just looks like a yamaha or kawa or honda. . Glad I still have my 1100 evo. Wouldn't touch these new ones.