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In a new episode of Rule Britannia, VICE joins the UK's Army Cadet Force and asks what the youth club can give British kids who may not have a lot else.
The Army Cadet Force has over 46,000 cadets from the ages of 12 to 18, training in 1700 detachments all over the country. The super low-cost club evenings and training camps equip teenagers with discipline and skills in anything from orienteering and military knowledge to weaponry, first aid, and sports.
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Having been in cadets for a few years I can say it was a great experience. You were given the uniform for free and all the camps were low cost. On Annual camp we stayed in a real army base and used all the same facilities and activities as real soldiers. The adult instructors keep it real and shout at you. You don't even have to have a military interest to join.
of course you need some degree of interest for the military, otherwise I'd think the uniform, code language and weapons would be a real turn off.
So you like it when they shout at you and bitch you around?
whiteynator some people, mostly girls join out of the interest of meeting new people and trying new experiences.
4sizle it isn't enjoyable but it feels authentic and like you are part of an army
Roller sail I wouldn't say that. My detatchment did have the odd idiot but was mostly full of fairly intelligent people. Most were going to university after the leave school. The real army does have dumb people in infantry jobs but some very smart people elsewhere e.g. Army Air Corp
this is one of the reasons why England can crank out some damn fine soldiers. respect from America
Britain.... not England, god damn you....
And you show whats wrong with american education, ITS NOT FUCKING ENGLAND YOU DUMB MOUTHBREATHER ITS BRITAIN
no, it isn't. most of these cadets don't go into the military, only a minority do.
we just wana shoot guns and go on cool expeditions for next to nothing, most the cadets corps are in rich kids schools but some of us are lucky in poor areas and get to do some cool stuff which we would definitely ont be able to afford otherwise.
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and you see whats wrong with british society when a person like you resorts to violent name calling on a comment that was a complement...why you so butthurt over a simple comment that was in no way offensive?
constitutional libertarian What does USA stand for?
Cadets didn't make me want to kill people.
But these comments....
i went down to the comments to write something related to the video...then i remember this is a vice video and the entire comment section is like being in the mind of a special needs child
Hahaha
Hahahaha so fucking true
You are not putting yourself on a better position by tossing everyone in the same pot.
I spent 4 years in the cadets. They taught me discipline, respect, selfless commitment, courage, integrity, loyalty and respect for others. At no point did the tell me how best to kill a person, force a dogma/religion down my throat or anything of the kind. They didn't at any point suggest joining the army/RAF/navy. They simply taught me basically the good part's that come with being a part of the military, the standards and moral that guide a soldier. It is closer to scouts then it is the real army, so don't speak out your arse like you know that much about the cadets from watching a vice documentary of all things.
i agree entirely i spent 4 years in the cadets and then joined the Army, where i spent 24 years as a career soldier, the cadets had no bearing at all on what i did. it was about fun and being part of a group and no more than that.
I’m from the US and I don’t know much bought this but is there like a cadets for RAF
ME TWO
Hey I was just wondering (I think i'm going to join) in training do we camp and do air soft and also on the weekends do we sleep there and is there showers there? (i'm 6 years late lol)
I'm a Canadian army cadet, and I couldn't agree more. People think of the cadet program as "getting you ready for the army" or something. It's not like that, it's meant to teach us useful skills, and keep us away from being a lowlife criminal or something.
I've been part of the Cadet organisation for 6 years...Never had I had the desire to massacre anyone with a rifle. People who join aren't forced into it and are required to have parental consent with everything they do. plus the Army Cadet Force has been around since the late 1850s and there has not been a massacre due to "Kids not knowing what they are doing" They know what they are doing and under go a very extensive safety and Weapon's handling test to make sure they are safe to shoot...Adult Instructors who are qualified on the range are full capable of taking a cadet off the range if they believe they are not acting in a safe manner.
I know plenty of Cadets that haven't joined the Military and only 20% of people I've met in the Cadet Organisation have gone on to joining the Military. Yes, Cadets USED to be a Recruitment ploy until after WWII. In fact a lot of people like myself used Cadets a way to meet new people around the UK or if they are lucky enough around the world or even just to gain more qualifications
Eww brony
These little patriots melt my heart, I look back fondly on my time in the cadets and genuinely feel sorry for those who did not get a chance to experience it.
."do you have a sister?"
"yeah, she's a lesbian though"
"I can try...."
Lol this was hilarious
What time in the video was this?
@@thessiger0077 6:05
I'd just like to mention the Cadets is not a recruitment tool (don't yet know if it's mentioned in the video or not), they do "army training" in it but they are not required to join the army once they are 18, it's there to give teenagers the opportunity to experience army life if they are considering joining the Army. There's also cadets for the Royal Navy, RAF and Royal Marines all for the same reason. It's not really "training kids for combat" it's giving them experiences and opportunities they cannot get anywhere else. Just take the Air Training Corps, some cadets are able to get their PPL(Private Pilots Licence), funded by a RAF scholarship, before their drivers licence. They wouldn't have been able to do that without the ATC, and they still aren't required to join the RAF afterwards.
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This is much better than siting all day playing games during summer.
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman? Holy shit he lives.
Sup sarge.
A great sense of nationalism in their culture. It's really admirable.
GuardianAsim Ok?
GuardianAsim So were the Russians when they took Berlin and ended WW2.
DigitalDyslexia So were the Russians when they killed 40 million people for disagreeing with them.
Who gives a flying fuck? I agree with Britain's overall agenda, therefor the nationalism they as a people display is admirable to me.
GuardianAsim Gobbles liked beer. Are you going to stop drinking beer now?
when I was in cadets one of the higher ranks went to punch me to see if I would flinch and I didn't he said good you didn't flinch when he left I was thinking "WHY ME"
Ever figure it out?
Its great to see kids with a dream to serve their country
I can't wait to join the Royal marine cadets in the next few months.
@@Dicko1 good luck
@@alisultan1451 Cheers! 😁😁😁👍👍
I am 13 and I am about to join @Abc Def
They want call of duty real experience lol
Imagine the person walking there dog and seeing kids in army outfits with guns lol 😂
Jesus the memory's from when I was younger and now I'm actually in the army. Loving every single minute of it just don't let anyone know you was a cadet in basic training and you'll be fine.
I have to admit cadets was one of the best insights to the army style life I ever had. Although it is not as hard as the regulars nor as dangerous it is still fantastic. If anyone is looking to join and is unsure seriously go for it ! I made some of the best friends I could ever make and got some of the best experiences I could have that a regular civi wouldn't get. Firing rifles and field craft was just a small part of the whole experience and now I am on track to join the regulars ! hoping to get into PCoy
And for anyone wondering I was in Rifles E company :)
I was in the cadets for years (in this regiment and battalion and went to most of these facilities) and turned out more or less alright. To the people worried about kids being brainwashed into army barmy nutjobs that definitely wasn't the case. It taught a degree of respect for one's elders and superiors, taught us to enjoy a hard day's work. Something that the education system had definitely failed to teach in my experience at the time. And the whole weapon thing. That was just a cool hobby. Shooting on a range and blank firing are lightyears away from fighting in a war. Granted they all appear to have aspirations of joining the military, but I did too at 15, also wanted to be a fireman and loved video games. Only a small portion of my cadet friends joined the military, people's ambitions and tastes change as they grow older. But the lessons of being a good citizen, looking after yourself and your family and being respectful in all aspects of your life never leave you.
I'm too young to be nostalgic, but this documentary hit me right in the feels.
Sam Haines I’m 15 and want to join the cadets , will I be allowed to join at 15 and will it be laughable since I want to join at 15?
I’ve always wanted to join the army and have interests in working in construction trades or becoming a fireman
im sorry but vice is giving a biased view.
i was part of the Air cadets (A CHARITY ORGANIZATION) and raised in the inner city. we learnt alot of skills and this was built into the education system and it taught us how to improve our grades and CV's in the working world we did alot of charity work to raise funds for military charities and our own.
Also shooting wasn't as popular as you think. The 13 yo boy seems a bit confused. They trusted us with the weapons because we went through 2 training lessons and an exam before we shot a rifle, a 22. bolt action was the first. It would take a while before you hold your first assault rifle the L98 training rifle safer and isn't full automatic; same moderation goes for the LSW in the video
Air cadets about planes not guns
@@l.f.c9973 you shoot aswell
I was in the army cadets for 4 years, I personally found it a great experience. I made some great friends who I am still friends with today, got to travel all over England and to some other countries. If I ever have children I will definitely encourage them to join as well.
@Zcorpio M4577 in England i think its 16, could have changed though, I’m 29 now so it was a long time ago.....
8:58 He said the Taliban uses cheap walkie-talkies from Argos, lol.
cheap walkie talkies from Argos I'm actually dead 😂
my favorite thing about these British videos from vice has always been the intro
Jesus im in army cadets and I never thought people would have such strong feelings about this. It not child soldiers, its just kinda like a serious piss about. Would you prefer to have your child hanging out round the corner shop or actually do something useful.
I feel for the kid with ADHD because kids like that seem to always aspire to have a physical job. So denying him that is sad. On the other hand I wouldn't trust him with a loaded weapon.
Lori but the cadets do
I would trust him seeing as I have adhd along with a lot of other mental illness so shut the fuck up
I have adhd and I want to join the cadets so stfu
ADHD just means someone's a bit hyperactive/impulsive. It doesn't mean they're incapable of controlling themselves or are any more aggressive than someone without ADHD. Also, people with ADD can be diagnosed as 'ADHD without symptoms of hyperactivity.'
@@Alexander-vm2ox Terrifying, you are
I spent my HS years in JROTC and it was fun. I think something like this should be available for everyone.
Great documentary once again Vice!
I was. Lance corporal cadet in the ACF for 6 years, it made me the man I am today. Excellent organization, that's trains young people to be good adults, and not necessarily soldiers. Max respect to this org, keep up the good work. Cheaply Holme det, 3 Somme coy, GMACF.
I was in the ATC in the 60s, reached the rank of CWO , I had fabulous time in the cadets, but we did not have all the fabulous equipment they have today.
Air cadets do basically the same as the army cadets plus flying
+OliP007 u guys dont do as much as us
You really do not, I've witnessed how much less you guys do being an army cadet alongside an air cadet unit.
+ThunderViper It varies between squadrons
OliP007 You have no standardisation? o.o
+ThunderViper Obviously we have standardisation but it is inevitable to have differences between squadrons. The leadership, the cadets and facilities will vary a lot between different squadrons and that isn't something that can be standardised
everybody got to start somewhere but make no mistake about it when these kids get older and wiser they'll be one hell of a fighting machine, the UK know how to train them to a level which makes them one of the best in the world !!
This looks super cool!
This is just like JROTC in the US. I've had many shy buddies gain a lot of skills and confidence through cadets. It's a blessing things like this are around for young boys.
lol hahaha cheep walkie talkies from Argos.
da beast man no dead falkland soliders
"If it wasn't for the fallen soldiers, we wouldn't be speaking English" lol
thats the kind of bullshit these kids are fed to justify killings
@@telephonebear21 No wonder international language in English
This is actually really great
Full Metal Jacket - great film illustrating the problems of military recruitment. a timeless classic.
No matter what happens my loyalty for England and the queen shall never falter. Cheers from Canada. P.s haven't seen the vid yet so don't mention anything yet
Well aren't you just a good little subject. Remember to respect your Royals! They were born better than you after all.
Richard Taylor now come on mate :) birth has nothing to do with superiority. My love of history makes me patriotic about our ties to the empire and the queen
Jacobo Matta Alright. Fair enough. That is your prerogative.
Jacobo Matta LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!
Shove those Stars and Stripes up your ass Richard, america ain't no heaven.
As an American I'm glad our friends in the UK are doing this. We are sick of being the main police force in the world and it's time for other countries to step up to the responsibility. Cheers my mates in the UK.
Well we have been the “police force” of the world for about from the 1400’s to 1945 which is about 550 years. Non the less respect to our allies across the pond.
Lol america lost 5 wars since ww2 and got independence from UK in 1770 something. They do a great job keeping that iron curtain over America
i was in the army cadets for 6 and a half years and i can say it was the best experience of my life. Met alot of people and still to this day talk to them and see them. Its an opertunity for lads (and lasses) who don't have much to do something amazing almost free of cost. You also gain invaluable lessons for everyday life on top of the qualifications in both first aid and public uniformed services. Did i forget you get to use the L98a2 cadet GP rifle? Or the SA80 to everyone else.
I was in cadets and now I'm in the army I can say it was not forced, one morning I asked my mum to look at the cadets and it was one of my best choices ❤️
Damn, these cadets got it good, I used to be in the cadets years back and we spent most of our time doing map and compass in a classroom, and had 1950's webbing. No access to all this nice expensive gear and radio training etc...
Im 17 and in Cadets! And im Proud to say im prepared to DIE for my country Great Britain, not for the government...... but only in the defense of the British people !
Brings back memories of my time in the cadets, was so much fun.
god damnit, these rule britannia videos are fantastic.
We meet the UK's Army Cadet Force to find out if giving a 12-year-old a gun can ever be a good thing.
Watch Part 2 now: bit.ly/Cadets-2
JWLuke787 you kidding me!? After the revolutionary war they ain't no way they could pick up a gun if their peckers depended on it.
PSYche Nihil well you're a moron... British special operations units are widely regarded as the best in the world, not the seals, not the marines, the fucking S.A.S
Troll Slayer 200 yrs ago they attacked a new nation. I don't think they hold the same amount of power over America.
chevy jay I think you might be pretty amazed. ;)
I was a cadet, best time of my life.
Respect to all British soldiers out there
One of my daughters is a member of the cadets. Not all of them join with illusions of a life in the military, but it does provide them with an insight and options for a potential future career. Does seem to instil an element of confidence and purpose also.. My other daughter goes to guides and also enjoys her time there also. Kids love to be given something to occupy their time and energy.
Good to see there are people in England that still have a backbone.
I was in cadets for 8 years and came out loving it most of the time. The thing about cadets is that it gets kids out the house and into the wild. It teaches them discipline, respect, leadership, the ability to work with others no matter your background. Life skills I've learnt from cadets as young man has helped me through later life. Yes there a military influence on theorganisation but it also creates self confidence, to be able to do things other teenagers couldn't imagine doing, standing infronto of a memorial on remembrance day or in trafalgar square representing my town and county is a proud moment for myself, some of the kids may choose to go into the forces later on in life but the aim of the organisation is not to churn out soldiers but to educate and enrich children.
I dont know wh but at 2:37 I laughed when he said 21 .
number 17 the best
Rule Britannia is the best series on Vice
Just got back from my Adv medical course and saw this; Respect (I'm a NZ Air Cadet)
Its better than quickscoping cod noobs on xbox
Init
5:27 he forgot to foward assist
Respect from Australia 🇦🇺
I did this when I was a kid. It was awesome.
Some people are born warriors. They are necessary to any society for protection against hostile enemies
the guardian type of plato's republic
I’m not gonna lie to you, Vice pissed me off, Cadets isn’t about combat and fighting wars it’s about having a good time with your mates and working on your teamwork and resilience, the “child solider” take is really wrong
Agreed, the best part about cadets is the mates you make in it
these are the type of kids that grow to be spec ops. mad respect from across the pond. US Marine boot camp in 19 days.
I was in the cadets, it was awesome adventure of a young kid. Taught me a lot and I learned a few useful skills if the apocalypse ever comes ;). I'm a Doctor now, didn't go into the army, though I was thinking about it at. Cadets was the place I learned first aid skills and got qualifications, learned about survival in the wild, learned to appreciate the natural beauty of the British countryside, learned to climb, abseil, canoe, and had amazing fun running around in the dark with my mates with a (blank firing) rifle. It's not for everyone, but you aren't forced to go and you don't have to join the Army afterwards.
My little lass will be going to cadets too, if she wants, when she gets old enough.
This series is absolute bullshit
It portrays cadets as some kind of killer making machine.
Its LITERALLY a youth club with a military edge to it. You learn drill, fieldcraft skills, skill at arms (taking weapons apart and putting them back together), shooting, camouflage and concealment etc
You are not at ANY point pressured to join the military, you dont use a bayonet or anything like that, all shooting targets are square paper targets rather than human figures etc.
Its like scouts but with more weapons and drill.
Its really fun and I never joined the military afterwards
And when in Islamic State same thing happens (Teen Cadets), everyone loses their minds. Lol.
There's a difference between a military camp and child fighters.
Also, one is a legitimate state and the other is a group of terrorists. You cant even compare the two.
IS kids are trained to kill we Cadets are never encouraged to kill or even rarely given the skills or knowledge to do so the most we learn are ambushes and section attack or maybe for some Fighting in built up areas however we never employ these tactics in real life like the IS do and they are not trained in a safe environment with skilled instructor like British cadets are.
sam edmison Wow that is naive. Why the fuck do you think the army puts on these camps? So that all the kids just lead a normal life after? No. They brainwash until signing-on age and draft them in to be officers, this is an investment for our armed forces.
***** But air cadets Don't get Funded by The government or army or RAF and alot still join and most of my mates from army cadets don't join the army.
sam edmison Sorry mate I don't mean to offend you if you have personal links but read this page on the air cadets website, the funding part, www.raf.mod.uk/aircadets/wanttojoin/informationforparents.cfm
I just think something is wrong when you hear from their own mouths how some are so keen to get of to afghan and kill people. And I know not all of them join up but a higher proportion than normal society do so the programs work in terms of recruitment.
i had six awesome years in cadets, then twelve in the army.
i would guess the greater percentage of lads do not go on to join the services.
but it was the best grounding ever, not just for the services, but for life in general.
I was in Air cadets, not quite the same as army cadets. I now fly commerical airlines. Cadets was easily one of the best experiences of my life, recommended to anyone, not only if you want to join the military.
Can I just say that I was in the air cadets and I then left because it was so fucking boring and all we did was clean and march. If we did anything like this I would've stayed!
Did you join ACF after?
sam edmison No I just thought they were all that boring and had few activities.
Imposterindahouse its like that to start but after you get past the shit you get to the good stuff
***** but the way they told me about it was like it was all action. two of my friends left but I knew that i should probably give them a chance. But after like 8 months with a bunch of honestly annoying pricks (I tried making friends but I guess they weren't bothered) and with no one to really talk to and one shooting session and a memorial service I left.
Lol. I did the same thing. I was in the air cadets for 3 months then left because it was boring.
Keep your skinny or sagging jeans and use of drugs id rather my kids be in cadets
i really do love the rule britannia series.
It's great to have young people involved in something positive, as long as their not brainwashed.
I wish we had something like this in the States.
Boy Scouts? Isn't that where 50 year old Christians feel up kids.
Hey its called Sea Cadets, but its hard to find a division that have the fun motherfuckers to be with. I was lucky enough to find one a friend of mine was in. They do much more military stuff than these dudes, but they only meet once a month for one weekend. It's totally worth it. Whatever rank you end with in Sea Cadets, which its extremely hard to rank up, you get if you enlist. Pretty great if you ask me. Hope this helps! Non sibi sed patriae!
Roller sail HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Youre a funny dude. Ignorant, but funny.
Roller sail lol yeah man, we dont all do that. Thatd be pretty unfortunate.
We do its called JROTC
air cadets is where its at, when i was young i got to fly planes, gliders and an army lynx once
Im proud that these teeenagers are doing such amazing things to not only help people but one day save lives. Im 14 almost 15 in July and the Army or Cadets just wouldn't be for me and i know that for a fact as i dont see myself being military material
Being in the cadets is awesome, its very underrated
09:00 "in afghan" they don't have argos mate 👍👏
I Joined when i was of similar ages in a rough council estate... All the lads were nob heads, they all thought they were the hardest, most smoked weed, me included....
Buzzed off annual camp, then got kicked out for being a gobby twat that couldn't take orders.... To be fair after typing that, i ain't really changed that much Lol.
On a serious note though..... How comes we British UK are allowed to train child soldiers ??
You basically told us you are a spastic and expect a answer??
'All the lads were nob heads, they all thought they were the hardest, most smoked weed, me included' you have just contradicted yourself, you smoked weed to try fit in. Making you and the other all looks like nob heads.
thats correct...
SootyHunt what coy
I'm in the Army Cadets now. I can confidently say that I want to join the Army when I am of age. This isn't because the cadets has persuaded me to, I joined the cadets because I wanted to join the Army beforehand. I've learnt many life skills that other people won't have. The Army is way more fun than any other job in my opinion. That's why I want to join.
honestly cadets is the best thing to do , it gives you a sense of responsibility. the uniform us pretty decent , annual camps are great .
Playing war. Cute.
Mate, you’re not funny. Shut up.
Wouldn’t really call it playin more of training, something ya might wanna do, puttin on a couple off pounds there mate😂
Wish the US had something like this
it was the best experience of my life
Jrotc is similar
+MustacheCash It does, the US Army run similar cadet cores in several inner city public schools, they are very popular.
+TheAirsoft Legionaire Lol
+DyeSL lol what?
Respect from Across the Pond
Were is this one it looks epic
LOL I was forced to do this for three years at my school, It didn't go down to well with me especially as I am a Voluntaryist and I had open objections for the Afghan and Iraq wars.
Voluntaryist= meaning I believe a mans only loyalty should be to freedom, those he loves and himself.
From my point of view it teaches you to be proud of your country, which is gladly free from oppression and to protect your loved ones. For that reason I support the troops regardless. I don't really know what voluntarism is but I'm guessing something like conscientious objector? Like I said my view, don't expect you to agree necessarily :)
It definitely develops you personally too
mar1n35rth3b35t I respect your opinion but if you don't know what voluntarism is then visit out this page it basically sums it up, who knows you might be a Voluntaryist without knowing it.
voluntaryist.com/fundamentals/introduction.html#.VKr1QSusUbV
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ProNikegod Foolish patriotic statist.
Phht damn army cadets, Air cadet master race. At least we are more of a useful tool in warfare and have less of a cannon fodder stance in war.
Curiosity Of Mankind m8 we need each other I'm a para detachment
You mean chAIR FORCE
That was funny. It seems the instructor were doing a good job teaching the kids to keep control, act step by step...
Love that intro
I'm a member of my schools army cadet force only for experience to put on my cv as I want to join the Royal Marines. It is nothing like actual training, it's really just mucking about most of the time, and there's so many rules and regulations behind what we can and can't learn that it cannot compare in any way to the actual army. Cadets are known for being the laughing stock of the army, and often sneered upon by serving members. From my experience it is just a group of either people doing it for experience or because they like guns and think it makes them manly, or it's just a good social with mates.
If my kid ever wants to join the military I'd feel I had failed as a parent. I'm not going to raise a mercenary pawn for government/corporate power games.
You literally just posted my opinion, it couldn't have been said any better
Good! And I was waiting for all the "patriots" to hurl abuse my way.
Brainwashing is what it is. Now I see where our tax money go
There's more to militaries than war, however. Plus, these kids aren't even in the military. Cadets, though simulating the army, is mostly fun. There's no risk or obligation in it
*Speaking as someone who served in the Airforce but hasn't done Cadets. My friend has talked to me about his Cadets experience for hours, however
That's fair enough, I wouldn't want my kid joining the army. But I think you have a bit of a negative view about the military. People forget the army spent a lot of time building schools in Afghan and is now helping to treat Ebola victims. Sometimes it is necessary to fight terrorists. For example Iraq can hardly defend itself against ISIS through no fault of it's own, but we the countries with power should just sit by and watch thousands be massacred by ISIS fighters? Where's the justice in that?
Iraq 2003 was an unjustified war, like a lot of others. But remember the USA, UK, France, Germany, Austrailia and others aren't thinking the best way to go and kill a load of innocents without getting into trouble.
I love that this is available to them, it's such a good experience for young people. Just unfortunate they have to allow kids like that add kid in there. Getting his hopes up and such, only to find out later he has no chance of being in the military.
This looks fun.
its sad that the military is one of the only chances any UK citizen will ever fire a full auto gun or even a semi auto military designed rifle... don't even bring up mass shootings because that's hardly a problem there hasn't been one in over 2 years and 26 people dying shouldn't deprive over 300m people of their rights to their pursuit of happiness and if i want to own an AK-47 well that makes a lot of people happy just to have fun shooting targets... as for what the little black kid said umm he may need a psych evaluation because i have never heard that be a reason for liking guns... you guys need to get rid of your nanny state and get some of your freedom back
*****
lol and like a typical propagandized moron you brought up mass shootings... teachers arent all strapped in the USA either... we just have the freedom to... i can handle 9k gun deaths a year for the peace of mind that we could assemble a 100m or more strong militia to fight an invading country or domestic tyrant... thats what the 2nd amendment is for hunting and personal defense are just a bonus and FYI an ak-47 wasnt used in any school shootings in recent years they were ar-15's that shows your knowledge of guns
*****
funny how when i proved your stats wrong you change the topic with straw man arguments... =P you fail and muskets were military grade back then and a semi auto ar-15 isnt military grade yes its sister the m4 is military grade but its full auto and dont you think we at least need guns when they have tanks and jets and ships? also why cant any of you british have a debate without personally attacking other people? VIOLENCE IS THE FIRST REFUGE FOR THE INCOMPETENT... can we try to have a debate topic by topic instead of straw man arguments like one person who was retarded and got herself killed
*****
8583 is alot but taking guns away from the good guy has proven (in the USA anyways) just to make the number go higher... look at gun stats in Texas compared to Chicago where people get shot every day because only the criminals can get guns because there are already millions of guns on the black market cant you realize criminals dont follow gun laws thats kinda the point of being a criminal... only law abiding citizens follow the gun laws
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but what if i choose to use a knife or any blunt object or what if there is more than 1 guy or what if the one guy is stronger? in all those situations a small 90 year old granny can pull a 9mm out of her purse and have 20 rounds plenty to scare off or kill like 5 attackers... granny would be doomed using her fists and most people would facing more than one person... at least your smart enough to say you would carry a gun tho instead of relying on police who never get there in time
Guns make a lot of people happy and have fun shooting targets... Is that how you justify it? Such a moron. We do not need guns, we do not need guns for 'fun' either. Our police don't even need guns. Now should we fill our country with guns just so people can have 'fun'? Clearly we don't need to do it so people can protect themselves as we don't need to fear being shot in the first place because of the lack of guns around. Our countries are completely different however and I do not think guns should be illegal in the US now just because there's too many it would be impractical. But here in the UK we're fine and everyone here agrees.
Yes, you learn a lot of life skills, like finding your way around fields, shooting guns, killing, xenophobia, and blind nationalism, so that some day you could become a robotic pawn in games played by politicians.
Who isn't? We all pay taxes to the government you hypocrite, you support the regime just as much.
MISTA FLIPPY IV Thing is you don't have a choice in being Taxed
Lol, then claim most of it back through specialist Accountants... Don't believe the hype....
Now most Rich British that can afford it are living abroad so they don't have to pay our UK taxes...
yes hahaha
You really have no idea what your talking about, I know that sounds like another generic but hurt commenter but you seriously don't have a clue, I have been in the army cadets for years and I couldn't be further from the description that you have just put forward as is the most of my company and any other cadet I have ever meet. It teaches you transferable life skills relevant to every aspect of life. Xenophobia doesn't even come into question, and neither does blind patriotism, it forms a respect for your country and the army but it doesn't brain wash you, it doesn't change your views, if I heard something I didn't agree with for example xenophobia, I would still have the same stance on it as I did before I joined the cadets. You are literally making a judgement and probably just repeating stuff that you have heard without really understand anything about what you are talking about. Seriously mate catch a grip.
I’m joining the cadet soon 💀😎😶and I honestly can’t wait
I saw the whole video and i think i would want to join 😄
after watching Vice's unemployed youth video and the criminals I thought the description might be more understanding
Reminds me of my childhood.
Good times.
I wish we still used dpm am a knew cadet so i have dpm gear while waiting for mtp
This is simply indoctrination
I can’t wait to join the army cadets! ☺️
I used to go to army cadets in the 1990's and they are still using the same rifle by the look of it! We used to strip the sa80 down to the breech and put it back together in about a minute maybe less. Never got to fire it but fired .22 LR at Beckingham camp
These children seem very intelligent and healthy. Honestly, skills like these can be applied in any situation. No, it doesn't have to be military training, it's life training. A warriors code is one to follow for a good life that is chivalrous, exciting, tenuous, and bountiful.
Not to mention we also have Air and Navy Cadets. The Air Cadets get put in gliders and stuff, and the Navy Cadets get to do a bunch of sailing.