La Decepción - The Story of the SEAT Cordoba WRC
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- The SEAT Cordoba WRC is often referred to as one of the worst rally cars ever, and whilst that's certainly debatable, what's not debatable, is the fact that it looked incredibly cool doing it. The SEAT was expected to be a top performer in the World Championship, but it just kept falling short.
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Possibly unpopular opinion - that Cordoba wrc combines all the best elements of the Impreza, Evo and the Sierra Cosworth - it looks absolutely glorious
One of the best liveries too.
No I see what you mean. It was purposeful looking. Especially the Evo 2. Seat being burned by the FIA allowing Peugeot to use the 206 killed it for them, I believe. Not to mention Skoda being there as well.
Now that you mention it...
It did have surprisingly good proportions, coupe body with WRC width.
Has to be the red and chrome evo for me
Great puns!
His ford wasn’t focusing
Subaru isn’t imprezzing anyone😂
Indeed!
"Colin McRae's focus wasnt able to go Ford anymore" 😂
I would love to see SEAT (via Cupra) returning to WRC. Now that even Lancia has their eyes on return to rallying, it won't be impossible for Cupra to get back into WRC
Too bad the idiots at VW decided to kill the brand in the near future
I agree it would be amazing, but cupra is building itself as an electric car company, so it just wouldn't make sense for seat
@@kjp-sy8uftrue but so is lancia, and theyve hinted at a return to rally despite being an ev only company (as far as im aware, atleast). hopes up for both i guess
Lancia? But with what???
Considering WRC is dropping the hybrid formula and SEAT/Cupra/Lancia repositioning themselves as electric marques that sounds beyond impossible at a corporate level now
You know it's a good day when Failed Racers posts another video about fascinating racing cars, this car always reminds me of my childhood - Colin McRae Rally 2.0, I always used it there
It’s now playable in the new EA Sports WRC after all these years
@@Joao14361 V rally 3 has it as well.The only car I use there
I beat Collin McRae Rally 2.0 with the Cordoba WRC. Good times.
Found my best underrated channel of the year
I had *no* idea Loeb test-drove the Cordoba WRC at one point for a press day; how different would WRC history have looked had SEAT pounced and given Loeb a full-time drive!?
Funny enough.Valentino Rossi also tested one in 2004.
Imagine the butterfly effect this would've caused - it may have changed the entire history of the WRC as we know it
@@ivaneurope Nah I doubt that would happen.Two very real scenarios however are that both Tommi and Carlos joined seat for the 2000 season.
@@jt-hb8lh Makinen and Carlos were called by Seat, but they denied. The 2000 Seat drivers were Auriol and Gardemeister.
The Ford deciding not to focus joke made me laugh more than it should
The Seat WRC program was very solid at the time, but underfunding from the VW group kinda killed it. Skoda had the same issue, yes, but Seat, having achieved some impressive results, deserved better.
More WRC videos like this please. Even though I know most of the history of WRC and the cars it is still interesting to watch such videos
Great video, one of the most interesting WRC cars of the early days :)
Also great writing in the video, looking forward to the future :D
The Cordoba had two problems that ruined its chances . it was Very front/top heavy and underpowered.Fun fact,one of the suppliers for this car was....Prodrive.
Actually, Liatti said that the engine was very good, and it was rumoured that it was the most powerful, but everything else was a bit wrong, like the rear wing: it was too big in the first version of the car, and because of that, performances were harmed a bit.
@@Snarl616nah. What else can hebaay beeing swat driver. Engine was developed from racing engine and was not very good for rally conditions.
@@user-nm6sp1eg5o oh you know better than the ones who drove the car and helped developing it, right?
@@Snarl616 i know history ofnseat in WRC do gtfo. IT is not secret from where cordoba WRC engine was developed. You just wrote your first comment from the ass without any conection with facts
Dude, your puns are absolutely freaking hilarious… 😂
You’ve earned yourself a subscriber here.
Keep up the great content!
Thank you for this awesome video on one of my favourite rally cars! Amazing footage, brought back memories. The Cordoba had genuine potential but unfortunately VAG had two of its makes competing with each other in the WRC (Too many cooks spoil the broth!) and probably ditched the wrong make. May you please also consider a future video on the never-raced and probably never-built MG DTM racer of 2005? Look forward to the Cadillac story.
Thanks man! Keep these WRC videos coming. I do believe the late 90’s and early 2000’s was the best era for rally.
I always assumed the Cordoba and the Octavia had the same engine, and I am now amazed at the discovery that they didn't.
What on God's earth was VAG thinking?
Another sad story of a World Rally Car that simply came too late, just like the Hyundai Accent. The Cordoba would have rocked in 1997. The Evo 2 version would have been great in 1998. Unfortunately it just came too late.
I love the music! Reminds me of old global underground/gatecrasher cds I would listen to after watching these rallies on Speedvision!
*Imagine the Cheems dog meme:*
Seat in WTCC: *muscled one*
Seat in WRC: *weak one* 😂
I need that photo of didier auriol in that cowboy hat NOW lol
I can't remember where I found it tbh, it's just on my computer somehow. I think this image should really be preinstalled as part of Windows
Beautifully executed video, it had everything I expected like complete teardown of evolutions, historical background of Ibiza Kit Car domination, ups and downs...and I swear I did not know about Seb Loeb giving it a test drive. So everything I expected plus more plus some obvious puns. Neat!
That's by far your best video yet! Enjoyed them all, but the edits are so clean in this one! Nice commentary! :D
Next suzuki attempt, first S1600 category and then WRC👊🏻💛
Or Opel in 1993
Suzuki ruled s1600.
Little trick at 5:25 got Me but I'm already subscribed
Loved my Cupra FR and would love to get my hands on another one. Also had the mark 1 Fabia and what a pocket rocket it was.
Quality video as always. Detailed, funny and good pronunciation of various names. 👌👌👏👏
awesome car, awesome video!! keep it up dude 🙏 greetings from spain
Spaniard Carlos Sainz (also without a spot after retirement of Toyota) was close to Seat for 2000, but he was not convinced by the car. At the end he chose Ford and so Seat signed Auriol.
That's interesting! Did Sainz ever test the car? That would add him to the surprisingly long list of rally legends who have driven this car.
@@FailedRacers I have to check 😄
omg what amazing writing, the puns and rhymes are really funny. 🔥
Still my go to car on v rally 3.
Could you please post your complete track list? The music you use in the videos arr amazing and the EDM tracks fit amazingly reminding me of the ost from the Wip3out series.
You forgot to mention so many things here:
1. UNDERSTEER. During the Catalunya 99 round, Liatti said that the Cordoba behaved well in the first kms, but then the tyres were destroyed. The only way to fix that was to adopt some (quote) "compromise solution" in the suspensions setup, which made the tyres last longer, but made the car understeer. This was a design flaw that was never fixed, because to fix that you basically need another platform, and since WRC are based on road cars, there was no chance.
2. UNRELIABILITY. While the Octavia was the wrong car but at least they made a tank out of it, the Cordoba broke down many times. In 2000 Auriol was many times without power steering, and in Montecarlo 1999 Liatti would have finished much higher than 6th if the brakes didn't leave him. Ok, it was the debut, but still...
3. UNPROFESSIONALISM. Sometimes, the team was to blame too. Why did Liatti retire in China 1999? Because after a water splash, water entered into the electric part of the car, thus shutting it off. The only answer that Liatti had from the team was to enter in the river slower. Also, in a round (can't remember which one, maybe Finland 2000), a Seat retired just because they didn't put enough fuel in the car. Mistakes happen, but at these levels they shouldn't.
4. BEATEN BY AN EX DRIVER. Rovanpera was fired from Seat at the end of 1999. In the 2000 Finland round, Rovanpera ended 3rd with an obsolete Toyota Corolla and could have been 2nd if they didn't mess up a stage time he did, while Gardemeister retired and Auriol finished 11th.
All in all, to me the Cordoba WRC was total crap. Not the worst WRC, but surely the one that disappointed the most and delivered the least. It was flawed from the beginning and things never improved despite various evolutions to the car were brought along. If anything, they went worse and worse and Seat revealed to have an inefficient team. Yes the car scored some podiums, but only when everybody else retired or the conditions were so extreme, like in Safari, that speed or handling don't matter much. To be honest with you, after all this, even the Ibiza was probably not that great. Ok, it won titles, but it just was nowhere against the 306 Kit and the Xsara Kit.
Emil Triner drove Cordoba Evo 2 in Czech championship in 2002. In 2003 his team bought Cordoba Evo 3. In first round he was asked about Evo 3 updates. He told that there are 3 active differential but they had to replace rear one back to older version because factory adviced them to do so. Factory said that active rear diff is less reliable and brings almost no speed improvement.
Then Triner continued that Evo3 has joystick gearshift homologated but factory again adviced that it is less reliable so they used old system.
Last but no least Triner said that they have different dashboard where he see better car setup.
Money well spent!😁
You make amazing content, and the use of Different styles of EDM as the BG music, wow.
I'll be looking forward to your next video
Ironically speaking, that heavy body roll made a beautiful dance of it!!
Skoda and seat are really forgotten wrc cars
And i dont think that Harri was in peugeot in 2000 i do think he was driving in private toyota team
“All rally cars are cool” couldn’t agree more!
Amazing video bro, congrats 🔥
thanks for making a video on this beautiful car !
Actually harri didn't join Peugeot in 2000 .He drove as a privateer in a Cordoba and a corolla before coming back for an one off event at the final round.
You're right, I should've double checked that one
@@FailedRacers All good.loved the video.
SX4 WRC next !!
Thank you SO much! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Love the music! :)
What a beautyful Car ❤ My second favorite WRC Car after the Escort WRC from 1998 . And a great Video too
Amazing video. Terrible jokes. Thank you for your informative content, I love it 😄
Facelifted Cordoba looked like a Blobeye GDB Impreza, had a 2001 4-door one in blue, so it looked even more similar.
My first car, had it for like a year, nothing impressive and slow as molasses, but it looked cool and sacrificed itself to teach me how to not be an idiot
I feel a video on the Mercedes V8 Supercar from a decade ago would be fitting given Erebus' current issues (plus it was easily the worst of the CotF cars despite winning two races)
Best speedrun car in Colin Mcrae Rally 2.0. 3 podiums, good looking car and potential. Sad that Seat will end in 2030, pls make a return in the Rally 2 class with the yellow and Repsol!
Safari 2000: the increased speed maybe due to the devs giving it extra 15 BHP?! KEKW CMR 2.0 joke!
Car had pace and performance... just needs a better team and engineers.
In one Spanish interview, one Spanish rally driver said that the Cordoba was faster on 0-60 tan even the 206 WRC, and he drove both. Cordoba's engine was something else
One of the cordobas probablems was it was underpowered...
My two favourite wrc cars were this and the Skoda.
My favourite Rally Car ❤
Do you edit videos yourself? If yes, great job!
Yeah, I edit them myself
As a joke here in Spain, we tend to say that the Cordoba is just an Ibiza with J-Lo's butt😂😂😂😂
Pues nunca lo había oído
@@IronMetal igual con lo del culo de J-Lo me he pasado jejej, pero lo de que el Córdoba es el Ibiza con culo si
Would love to see a video on the Mini WRC project.
0:07 Why is the intro to Bom Dia São Paulo, how specific hahahha, it's not even from Bom Dia Brazil, anyway, I loved the video
Haha, I thought it was still part of the SEAT ad at the beginning, the colour scheme is the same
@@FailedRacers Here is the good morning São Paulo vignette th-cam.com/video/vsimVq1qKL8/w-d-xo.html , is there a link to the Seat commercial is there a person who would love to see this from the television community here?
My first car was a 1998 Seat Ibiza Cupra 2. It was a rocket and a menace
We making it out of the siesta with this one boys
Quality is definitely improving video by video. I would go easy with the background music, level the volume of the only music parts with the narration parts.
The idea behind the high sound level with the music is I'm going for the effect that's like what you'd get from a 'bass drop' kinda thing, if I put the music up high after saying a line, it makes the line hit 'harder' idk how to explain it, but it's a bit of an effect I like to do, but I know that not everyone is going to like this effect which is why I put the volume warnings as well
that was a great looking car
When will we get an episode on Hyundai N Cereal?
I didn't even know that seat was in wrc
Seat cordoba was my fav in Colin mcrae rally 02 game
By far the best looking car of it's era
Just a hint: it's called Córdoba, that Ó is where you have to accent the name. By the way, beautiful city
man I love the look of those Cupra F2 kit cars
on a different note wasnt rovanperra a bit of a crash meister
My memories of this car are from Colin McRae 2.0 ;]
Love the puns 😂
Valentino ROSSI also drove a CORDOBA.. He crashed it too
hey mate, how did you find the old WRC music? would love to listen to the tracks by themselves.
There's a whole playlist of it th-cam.com/video/e7-hDUhZasI/w-d-xo.html
@@FailedRacers oh my god thank you
Nicely written and read - but why warn about poor audio balancing rather than fixing it - it’s kind of a problem throughout.
The reason for the sound editing being like this has to do with engagement and the fact that in 2024, long videos have to compete with Tik Tok, TH-cam shorts, Instagram Reels etc. Having the music turned up between the speaking creates a sort of bass drop effect at the end of the previous sentence which can make the words sound more powerful. But I'm also aware that whilst a lot of people think that it sounds really cool, others won't like it, so I put the warning. That way the viewer can decide of they want to stick with the original effect, or lower the volume. I think giving the viewer the choice is the way to go.
Can you link the songs you use in the description because they are 🔥
I've got some linked in the description, the ones which aren't linked are from the official WRC soundtrack from the 2000s which will come up if you just search "WRC Music"
Honestly, I thought the Cordoba would beat the Fabia, but as a Škoda fan, I don't mind.
it was beautiful rally car!
Nowadays Cupra is Competeing in Formula E and Extreme E
I have a diecast of this exact car
Seat Cordoba WRC is not a rally car...It Is THE Rally car ❤
even if it sucked i want more if not all cars from given eras to feature in games
Your videos are great, but these sound level differences are absolutely frustrating. You warn about them instead of simply, you know, make them less obnoxious.
:)
You let comments bully you into pronouncing names correct. I dont know how to feel about that
Learn how to audio balance, this was awful to listen to.