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Finally got my FTW3...couldn't be much happier. Maxed the power, temp and voltage targets, and threw the fans into aggressive mode and ran Unigine Heaven for 7 hours straight to see how hot it would get, how noisy, and what clocks it could achieve. Card hits 2000Mhz like this with no core offset, until it hits ~55C, then it drops down to 1987Mhz, and stays there because it never goes past 60C. Usually sticks around 58. At these temps, the fans don't go much higher than 60 or so percent, so it's still pretty quiet. Pretty happy with it. Gonna start overclocking as soon as EVGA sends me a code for Unigine Superposition(they have a promo giving out premium versions of it for free)...so I can use that for stability testing, as I am bored of Heaven and the like. Also, IAMA about how that extra $30 totally decimated my bank account boys. Times are rough because of it, I may have to sell my house and get a cardboard box to game in lol.
7:50 - this content is revolutionary. I feel like, Steve, you've basically surpassed all of your peers in the tech journalism world at this point, well done, man!
I got that strix oc edition for $915 with prime and free delivery. Hurry up if you want it. That's actually below msrp considering the cooling system it comes with.
Owen Asus is better by a very slim margin, but I honestly got it for the better cooling and better looks. I know it's silly, but I have a great aesthetic rgb performance build that REQUIRES the Asus.
strix is simply a beast and looks amazing but you do pay the price in raw cash atleast in europe. the strix is always the most expensive card among the pure air cooled cards
I paid £810 (20% Value Added Tax for imports in UK) from my favourite dealer. From appearances they get 10 in stock and sell them with in a few hours, the out of stock price returns to £799. I'm very happy with my purchase though. I think the aesthetics of the strix alone are worth paying more for, no photos or videos do it justice. Even if I went for the mid tear cards I would still be paying 20% more lol .
Steve remains the best youtuber in the industry BAR NONE... His personality in combination with his excellent communication skills, and long hair is a testament to his individuality and abilities.. He is highly intelligent, and committed balls to bones to his craft, and is self evident to those of us who have watched him for years... He is the pinnacle broadcaster within his segment of industry and should have long ago received his 1 Million Sub TH-cam award... It is a injustice that someone of his caliber has to wait so long to be recognized for his contributions and the education he has been providing all us without complaint or fail for years.. While I am convinced he will indeed hit 1 million Subs... I will continue to support and recognize his contributions to the hobby we all love. Well done Steve.... Keep doing you bro! we got your back and support you 100%
EVGA Deserves way more credit for keeping thier FTW3 card limited to a 2 slot profile. That's a big deal to a lot of people, way more than a few dba in noise output or degrees of heat.
Rin Chi note that past 30dba (i think) each 3dba is now twice as loud. I remember that at some point the increase by 3dba leads to twice the percived 'loudness'.
Don't forget the other BIG advantage of buying EVGA: SUPPORT! Asus is *renowned* for being HORRIBLE to deal with if your product arrives DOA/needs *any* modification!
ColehBroleh you confuse loudness and sound pressure in db you should search for the measument loudness, since it depends on few parameters like frequency and sound wave pressure, andvit is also subjective matter.
I thought +3db was twice the intensity. Just enough for us to perceive and +10db was about twice the perceived volume. I duno though I learned that stuff nearly 10 years ago :D
You are right about EVGA, they have a great support reputation. Personally I wouldn't know because I've never had an issue with an EVGA product. And THAT's the reason I go EVGA for my graphics solutions - better to never find out how good their support actually is in the first place. :) As far as Asus - I've had good success with their products but did warranty a graphics card a number of years ago. I had no trouble at all with the process, it was timely and there was no drama involved. That said, I've always had the thought that Asus's engineering ideas were at the top of the business but their manufacturing execution wasn't up to the same standard. Fortunately they've recognized this and taken steps to improve their production quality, hopefully it will mean better reliability for their customers. If it weren't for EVGA I'd have no problem buying the Strix - or the Gaming X for that matter. And as far as mainboards - Asus or MSI, EVGA isn't top-tier there, for me.
Christopher F As someone who bought an EVGA 1080 Ti SC2, I'll tell you yes, the $30 extra ($80 in comparison to FE card) is definitely still a factor. Even those of us willing to spend that much on a GPU must believe it's worth the extra money. To give you my perspective, when I was weighing up my options, I asked myself what was important to me. I really liked the idea of iCX, so I decided to go EVGA. With the current state of GPU Boost, I decided to just go with the SC2 (plus I liked the way it looks with 2 fans). For someone like me, the Strix is a hard sell because it's more expensive and didn't have features that interested me as much.
I really disagree with that way of thinking. Another example of it is something like: 'Well if you can afford to go on holiday with your family, then you can afford to finally get rid of that old car of yours'. Just because you can 'afford' one thing, doesn't mean you have another bunch of money laying around for something else. The vast majority of people in the developed world have budgets for almost everything they buy, especially in regards to computer set ups. If you have a $2000 PC budget, then a $30 difference on a GPU DOES MATTER. Thats the difference between a very good CPU cooler and an 'ok' one, or the difference between two SSD capacities, or the difference between a locked intel CPU and an unlocked (k) CPU.
I was able to preorder the FTW 3, direct from EVGA, at $750 over a month ago... not sure why it's now $780. That aside, yes, $30 can sway a lot of people (myself included) especially if you are building a new system and/or have a set budget. Every dollar counts the higher the total cost goes. If that $30 gives you significant performance, then it might be worth it, but, in this case, I don't see how spending an extra $30 helps people in any way (well, maybe the customer service... that could be worth the added cost).
That's like saying, you are paying $30,000 for a car, what''s another $1,500 for the Nav Package? You setup a PC Build budget for a reason. So while $30 seems like nothing, that $30 could be applied towards better drive, psu, motherboard, etc.
@Gamers Nexus -- I think you are doing great and confused why you don't have more subscribers. you go in depth and love your reviews. Thanks and keep up the great work!
As one of the cheapest 1080 ti cards with a custom cooler, it would be interesting to see how the EVGA 1080 Ti SC Black Edition GAMING performs in comparisen to these more expensive cards.
Fantastic channel. For the past 3 weeks I've been through every little detail of getting my components chosen for a new build. This channel has proven invaluable in that process. The level of detail in the testing and presentation, as well as simply honest(brave) and clear conclusions is almost unique on YT.
I'm still happy with the FTW3 vs the Strix. Asus's CS and warranty is nothing compared to EVGA's, plus it would seem the Strix has some fairly bad coil whine issues. From what I have seen almost 1 in every 2 Strix cards has that issue...not something I want to deal with.
If this is a response to the coil whine bit, your fan speed has absolutely nothing to do with coil whine. Also, I can't really hear my FTW3 fans at 50% fan speed either lol.
Coil whine is still very dependant on the model and quality of the capacitors used. Why do you think coil whine is such a big issue with so many FE cards? Same with the Asus. It's fairly common on specific cards for a reason.
a card wont get coil whine when the capacitors are good quality. also evga will Always help you their customer service is amazing. i love the asus cards but i love the evga cards even more.
So this begs to question, any chance we'll see an SC Black vs SC2 comparison or blurb? :) On the surface, it appears they both have the same cooler and same clock, same reference design - the SC2 just adds the sensors and RGB lighting instead of white only for the SC?
This guy looks like Winter soldier's lesser known brother, Spring Break soldier. No but for real these reviews are some of the best and most technically detailed I've seen which is exactly what I'm looking for. Keep up the great work!
Still daily driving mine for 6 years now. I've upgraded everything else a year ago except the GPU, because why not? It still works flawlessly for my 1440p needs
I had 1060-6gb and 1070 by Asus GOG Strix. Not bad at all, but buyng 1080Ti i decided to try MSI GaminX and noticed that it not so noisy at 75-100% fun speed.
PLEASE STOP with the generic "% of max" for fan speed measurements! If the max RPM of one brand is significantly different than another, it makes a direct comparison of "50% fan speed" completely meaningless! SPECIFY AN EXACT RPM NUMBER PLEASE!
Finally someone has intelligent methodology comparing (normalizing) by dBA output! I was so waiting for this. Comparisons based on % fan speed need to stop, it is dumb - the fans have different shapes and different dBA at different % speed and also the max rpm of cards differs - other reviewers take notes from Gamer Nexus.
Thank you guys for all the hard work put into these tests and videos. A purchase like this is a rather big decision to most, and it's always great to find detailed information about it to help make the purchase decision easier and more clear.
If only MSI listened and stopped this stupid red+black color scheme. The Twin Frozr VI is getting great reviews for every product it's on but I'll still never buy it. Hopefully they take the hint next generation and either make their Quicksilver edition the go to or all black with red accents being optional somehow.
Fantastic review and new charts. Extremely helpful and you are completely right... when it comes down to it, you are paying more for the cooling and noise performance differences and that is exactly what you tested. Thanks for the hard work!
You should include examples of sounds produced when game is played couple of hours in NIGHT time. For example by recording sounds by microfone. Because sometime fans produces noise on 'bad' frequency. So it can be silent, but if you play in the night, it makes you tired and irritate
Gamers Nexus - please give me straight answer. If money are no issue and all I care is max possible Overclock with min noise and best temps- EVGA FTW3 or Asus ROG STRIX? Or should i just choose what lokks better? Thx
Julatz Schmulatz if he was after over clocking then I would recommend the evga and do a hybrid mod like GN did as that way you can monitor temps for the overclock I bought a Asus Turbo 1080Ti and put a Morpheus II cooler on it. It’s quiet at Low rpm with my two ML120 fans and I only hit max temp 46 degrees at stock 1911mhz @.893v My only issue is I can’t measure the vram and vrm temps hence my recommendation for the evga model. OptimumTech did a great video comparing the two custom coolers on the evga - I recommend having a look
I cant get it to sync with deluxe II motherboard. Arura keeps crashing and a Dr Help webpage opens. Then the GC icon is removed from Arura. So may versions of the software too. Any tips?
hey ICY i just bought my asus code board and wanted to ask a quick question well maybe two as support cant seem to answer it, one do the leds on the motherboard when set to white seem to have a greenish blue glow to them for you or are they bright white? mine have a weird hue, second, are you using an AIO liquid cooler? when i have my corsair H100VI plugged into the cpu optional header the corsair led flickers and im not sure if that port isnt meant to work for it. Thanks!
Yes, that is because there's only red, blue, and green LEDs in the board. When you want white, it mixes all of the colors to make white. So it is normal.
No, you can't really change the LED color when they're already installed in your mobo. (I use the NZXT Kraken x62) I normally use the blue breathing and the blue/purple tai chi in my aio.
Great video as usual, thank you. I own this card; My view is that: It has great cooling, looks great, sags a bit on the mobo and has NOTICEABLE COIL WHINE.
Great video and thank you for all the benchmarking and numbers. Though, two measeruments aren't much valid: 50% and 100% fan speed as different fans have different speeds, and more importantly they have different airflow (cooling effect). So more reliable and comparable would be measing at certain volume of air going through - and that I guess isn't worth the effort, since it still doesn't tell much. So maybe instead I would go for noise+temperatures at certain high as possible frequencies - which should produce same heat for dissipation - and either stock or best possible curve -> to really compare the fans/cooling possibilities (temperature vs noise).
I chose a pair of these to replace 3 980 TI(s) in Nvidia surround setup because 1) they're the only 2 slot top-end aftermarket 1080 TI which greatly helps with cooling in SLI; 2) EVGA has the best CS of any card manufacturer; 3) I can get advanced replacement RMA service from EVGA if one breaks; 4) the factory warranty transfers to next owner which makes selling my old EVGA 980 TI cards easy; I am able to recoup some of my investment when upgrading. The above for me far outweighs a fw db in sound difference which I can't hear outside the case anyway. This comparison really is doomed from the start as you can't compare a 2 1/2 slot card to a 2 slot card and call it an accurate comparison. The fact that EVGA is only a few db louder with such a large reduction in heat-sink surface area is a testament to the engineering & build quality inherent in the FTW. If the FTW was a 2 1/2 slot card I expect the results would be different... I do like the fan headers on the ASUS Strix though. That was a nice addition, especially if you can control them from the OC Software...
So now that the Gaming x card is 850, the strix is the best card to buy. I sold my Evga 1080 ti SC Black Edition because it was a loud card. If all the 1080 ti preform the same, then temps. And noise are more important to me.
You know, (and I believe I'm not the only one) why hasn't any GPU manufacturer offered a custom water cooling card that is w/o the fans and heat sinks? I mean cost wise they wouldn't lose any more money since they won't have to add the cost of the heat sink, fans and the weight for the shipping.
I think most people who are going to buy EVGA ftw3 is for the dual bios option, that alone is worth the extra for me, i am going to watercool it so fan charts dont matter to me
its basically has the same value, just lock one of the variable and you make a better and practical review. but with the limitation of noise measurement they have it might be better to use relative high db target. then they can use the same db at more low power cards and still be in range of the db meter.
That's basically what they do ALREADY when testing noise. The max temp is usually about 82degC. Even if there's a small difference between cards I don't think it would make much difference due to how BOOST works.
got evga hybrid kit for my FE card and its running great. and quiet. So far i'm really having fun with the card and i cant wait to see if it can drive asus' new 4k gsync hdr monitor coming out later this year.
Hi Steve, I have a question on the OC charts that you use in your reviews. It has a bunch of pass and fail entries, but which one is that you ultimately use? Is it the final one on the list that Passes?
Why are Asus components so expensive? I could have understand it more than 5 years ago, however nowadays most performance and feature set are the same across the board, not to mention quality as well. In fact, other AIB are better and cheaper.
If you look at actual hardcore overclocking you can see that you're talking out of your rear. Strix have one of the best vrms and even the asus dual series (budget) is decent.
Now that makes it ant valid. Their marketing to an incredibly small subset of users. Also not to mention those same people would modify the hardware anyways. Finally it is just absurd to make it a fact that all Asus components are great overclockers when there are plenty of records broken using gigabyte, msi. Not sure I'm the one who is taking out of their a"".
This asus card is the best ti. And very few users are going to spend $900+ on a gpu and not overclock. And if they are "catering to a small subset", then good. I want to be catered to. Because I want to make a monster pc build. And I certainly have.
Are there any bios mods which will just allow us to force a fixed clock speed when the card is handling 3D content? For example with the GTX 900 series cards, it was rather simple to disable the boost 2.0 function, raise the power limit, bump the voltage slightly, and then set the card to 1500MHz and have that clock speed regardless of the game.
Hey man i know this is an older video, but Ive always wondered why my "boost clock" was 1897 but in the evga software it was well above 2001. Is it similar to my i5 8400, it says 2.8GHz but always runs at 4.1GHz? Will we be seeing this in the next few generations?
As allways very informative review and video about GPU:s. As non native English speaker i would love sometimes bit slower phase on speak or some places, but more importantly very precise pronunciation on some cases. ie. very techno bable stuff. But all in all cool to see that there still actually sites that really do they work on different computer / gaming related previews. Like you see many many typos etc incorrectly writen words here so :) be that in mind, i did not mean in negative way. Sadly the TI prices in here Europe expcialy in Finland are extraordinarly pricy ie. 950-1k € Also this is old video but still :)
MSI's cards have allways been cooler than all the others at low fan rpm, resulting in the quitetest card of them all. also the exact frequency noise the fans generate are a more comfortable sound than other fans, so when your chart says it is 1dB lower, in real life its experienced like maybe 4dB really.
I wouldn't say that Aorus Extreme is the least favourable as buying one gets you 4 years of warranty compared to 3 years given by other manufacturers (if I remember correctly Zotac only gives 2 years of warranty on their cards). Also in Europe its cheaper than Asus by about $25-50. The only thing that I don't like on Aorus is that it's bigger than the rest (3 slots vs 2.5).
Hey GN! I have a few questions about GPU temps. I tried looking through the article and maybe I missed it, but I was wondering what resolution you do your temperature tests at, or even resolution even matters in the first place. I'm curious because I recently got a Zotac 1080ti AMP edition (not extreme), and my temps in BF1 and GTA V at 4K Ultra usually settle at 80c with 80% fan speed. Considering I had a 1080 FE before this that achieved basically identical thermals and noise, I was expecting a bit more out of an aftermarket card. Are these thermals just normal for 4K Ultra? Or would cards like the Gaming X and Strix OC have lower temperatures? Thanks!
My Current set up consist of a 980 TI I am running three monitors one Dell 34 ultra wide and 2 Dell 27 inch for a 3 monitor set up I'm considering the EVGA 1080 TI or the Asus Strix 1080 TI. I do some gaming and also video creation. I like the fact that the EVGA has three display ports is why I'm considering the EVGA 1080 TI over the strix any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks !
and people dont believe me when i tell my gpu when OCed to 2126 mhz runs at 69c (at 23c ambient), dis a 1080 tho, not the ti. not only does Asus's cooler perform amazingly, it simply just looks amazing (: that is ofc objective. with fans at 1800rpm (49% i think). this is after 5 hours of a stabilitytest :P ive since just set it to 2000 mhz just cause of ocd, and well, its like a 1% performance difference. just to top it all off tho, (this was at black friday ofc, when the 1080 prices were higher) for 620 bucks outside of the US. aint got a single complain about this card, Asus really nailed the 10 series cards (or the strix). Keep up the goodcontent GN, basically the only tech channel i watch anymore.
I like the asus But I just paid 470 after tax for a g1 1080, where the cheapest asus is 550...USD Hard to justify the price differences, granted the higher quality gigabyte is similarly ridiculously priced
if everything youre after is a 1080, it probably wont matter much which one you go with, and i totally would get the price differences and how they matter more. i have yet to see another 1080 go for lower than what i paid for mine durring black friday (even today) unless its the cheaper models on sales, in my country :P 470 usd sounds amazing tho! i myself care a bit too much about looks and cooling so for me personally, i'd pay the full price(after the 1080 price reduction, its now at a 725 usd) for the strix if i had to :P price of being into case modding and overclocking i guess ;D
I'm not sure if Gigabyte made too many or what, but they're selling both teh G1 1070 and 1080 over here for considerably less than every other 3 fan competitor. Matching founders edition pricing I hadn't considered there would be different patterns outside the US, that was silly of me.
just double checked, and gigabyte actually do have a model that is 680 usd, thats not bad at all! its far from 470, but way lower than 725 so! the cheapest atm is a palit at like 640 bucks :P but thats a dual fan one, not to mention the area of the 'lower' quality ones :P
Jesus I can only imagine what a Titan costs there I wouldn't have gone for any higher than the 1070 but I saw that 1080 for 100 more and couldn't help myself
EVGA and MSI are priced the same right now on Newegg (780). Might as well go for EVGA for performance correct? Or is db level that big of a reason to buy MSI Gaming X regardless?
I am curious if the MSI GTX 1080 Ti Sea Hawk X would perform better than these cards. I've heard there is a coil whine on some of them. Is that on all of those cards or just some that were produced incorrectly. Are there any other AIO cards out there for GTX 1080 Ti?
i think at 40 db sea hawk could perform better, but pure db measurement would not account for how pleasant a noise is, only loudness, coil whine or pump noise or radiator turbulence adds more variables. but seriously 40 db is quite loud, 20 db is silent, 30 db is ok for some people living in a noisy environment and 30 db is within range of gamers nexus testing. 40 seem like a bad choise
long video, but uh Performance(overclocking) to temperature to noise levels/warranty for canada, which of these are the best? I really want to buy one of them but cant deicide.
I'm trying to figure out how he makes the statement that the Aorus card is the less favorable card when the only thing it wasn't keeping up with or doing better than the Strix is was the vram cooling. Everything else on the charts, as well as the lower price point makes me see the Aorus as the better card in many ways.
Read up on the Aorus cards a bit, I was going to buy one, cancelled the order because there's a 200+ page thread of customers with massive stability issues right out of the box, not even in OC mode. its a shame, it looked like a great buy.
sry if this question is not Video related, but can you guys make a ryzen oc Video? And is it possible to oc the automatic Turbo boost? Because i dont want to run my ryzen permanently on 4 ghz.
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That extra 40% more fins pays off huh?
IF and only IF they release a 1080 Ti K|ngP|n card, I would be up for a comparison of it vs the cheapest 1080 Ti available...
Great Video! Glad to see the Strix pull ahead in thermals considering the price.
I like the new chart. Comparing cooling to noise is nice to see.
I would be curious to see how this and the FTW3 compare to Zotac's offerings.
Finally got my FTW3...couldn't be much happier. Maxed the power, temp and voltage targets, and threw the fans into aggressive mode and ran Unigine Heaven for 7 hours straight to see how hot it would get, how noisy, and what clocks it could achieve.
Card hits 2000Mhz like this with no core offset, until it hits ~55C, then it drops down to 1987Mhz, and stays there because it never goes past 60C. Usually sticks around 58. At these temps, the fans don't go much higher than 60 or so percent, so it's still pretty quiet. Pretty happy with it.
Gonna start overclocking as soon as EVGA sends me a code for Unigine Superposition(they have a promo giving out premium versions of it for free)...so I can use that for stability testing, as I am bored of Heaven and the like.
Also, IAMA about how that extra $30 totally decimated my bank account boys. Times are rough because of it, I may have to sell my house and get a cardboard box to game in lol.
I'm still rocking this card and nothing I play could even come close to making it seem obsolete. What a monster!
7:50 - this content is revolutionary. I feel like, Steve, you've basically surpassed all of your peers in the tech journalism world at this point, well done, man!
Ahhh...Those were the Days...780 Dollars for a 1080ti...Now you almost pay double. :D
I got that strix oc edition for $915 with prime and free delivery. Hurry up if you want it. That's actually below msrp considering the cooling system it comes with.
Dominic Commisso WHYYYYYY would you do that? Right now you can get an EVGA FTW3 for $670, and it has same if not better performance in all categories
Owen Asus is better by a very slim margin, but I honestly got it for the better cooling and better looks. I know it's silly, but I have a great aesthetic rgb performance build that REQUIRES the Asus.
1439 Euros for a 2080 Ti strix....
Just bought a used 1080ti off ebay for $400 US
strix is simply a beast and looks amazing but you do pay the price in raw cash atleast in europe. the strix is always the most expensive card among the pure air cooled cards
its not,at least not in germany
The Strix cards are generally more affordable in the states...
McHox It is.
Denmark
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Germany
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I paid £810 (20% Value Added Tax for imports in UK) from my favourite dealer. From appearances they get 10 in stock and sell them with in a few hours, the out of stock price returns to £799. I'm very happy with my purchase though. I think the aesthetics of the strix alone are worth paying more for, no photos or videos do it justice. Even if I went for the mid tear cards I would still be paying 20% more lol .
Steve remains the best youtuber in the industry BAR NONE... His personality in combination with his excellent communication skills, and long hair is a testament to his individuality and abilities.. He is highly intelligent, and committed balls to bones to his craft, and is self evident to those of us who have watched him for years...
He is the pinnacle broadcaster within his segment of industry and should have long ago received his 1 Million Sub TH-cam award... It is a injustice that someone of his caliber has to wait so long to be recognized for his contributions and the education he has been providing all us without complaint or fail for years..
While I am convinced he will indeed hit 1 million Subs... I will continue to support and recognize his contributions to the hobby we all love. Well done Steve.... Keep doing you bro! we got your back and support you 100%
EVGA Deserves way more credit for keeping thier FTW3 card limited to a 2 slot profile. That's a big deal to a lot of people, way more than a few dba in noise output or degrees of heat.
Rin Chi note that past 30dba (i think) each 3dba is now twice as loud. I remember that at some point the increase by 3dba leads to twice the percived 'loudness'.
Don't forget the other BIG advantage of buying EVGA: SUPPORT!
Asus is *renowned* for being HORRIBLE to deal with if your product arrives DOA/needs *any* modification!
ColehBroleh you confuse loudness and sound pressure in db you should search for the measument loudness, since it depends on few parameters like frequency and sound wave pressure, andvit is also subjective matter.
I thought +3db was twice the intensity. Just enough for us to perceive and +10db was about twice the perceived volume. I duno though I learned that stuff nearly 10 years ago :D
You are right about EVGA, they have a great support reputation. Personally I wouldn't know because I've never had an issue with an EVGA product. And THAT's the reason I go EVGA for my graphics solutions - better to never find out how good their support actually is in the first place. :)
As far as Asus - I've had good success with their products but did warranty a graphics card a number of years ago. I had no trouble at all with the process, it was timely and there was no drama involved. That said, I've always had the thought that Asus's engineering ideas were at the top of the business but their manufacturing execution wasn't up to the same standard. Fortunately they've recognized this and taken steps to improve their production quality, hopefully it will mean better reliability for their customers.
If it weren't for EVGA I'd have no problem buying the Strix - or the Gaming X for that matter. And as far as mainboards - Asus or MSI, EVGA isn't top-tier there, for me.
Is anyone really going to complain over $30 when you're spending over $750 on a video card?
Christopher F yes. not me, but yes.
Christopher F As someone who bought an EVGA 1080 Ti SC2, I'll tell you yes, the $30 extra ($80 in comparison to FE card) is definitely still a factor. Even those of us willing to spend that much on a GPU must believe it's worth the extra money.
To give you my perspective, when I was weighing up my options, I asked myself what was important to me. I really liked the idea of iCX, so I decided to go EVGA. With the current state of GPU Boost, I decided to just go with the SC2 (plus I liked the way it looks with 2 fans). For someone like me, the Strix is a hard sell because it's more expensive and didn't have features that interested me as much.
I really disagree with that way of thinking.
Another example of it is something like: 'Well if you can afford to go on holiday with your family, then you can afford to finally get rid of that old car of yours'.
Just because you can 'afford' one thing, doesn't mean you have another bunch of money laying around for something else.
The vast majority of people in the developed world have budgets for almost everything they buy, especially in regards to computer set ups.
If you have a $2000 PC budget, then a $30 difference on a GPU DOES MATTER. Thats the difference between a very good CPU cooler and an 'ok' one, or the difference between two SSD capacities, or the difference between a locked intel CPU and an unlocked (k) CPU.
I was able to preorder the FTW 3, direct from EVGA, at $750 over a month ago... not sure why it's now $780.
That aside, yes, $30 can sway a lot of people (myself included) especially if you are building a new system and/or have a set budget. Every dollar counts the higher the total cost goes. If that $30 gives you significant performance, then it might be worth it, but, in this case, I don't see how spending an extra $30 helps people in any way (well, maybe the customer service... that could be worth the added cost).
That's like saying, you are paying $30,000 for a car, what''s another $1,500 for the Nav Package? You setup a PC Build budget for a reason. So while $30 seems like nothing, that $30 could be applied towards better drive, psu, motherboard, etc.
This gentleman's voice sounds very bored, I like it.
@Gamers Nexus -- I think you are doing great and confused why you don't have more subscribers. you go in depth and love your reviews. Thanks and keep up the great work!
As one of the cheapest 1080 ti cards with a custom cooler, it would be interesting to see how the EVGA 1080 Ti SC Black Edition GAMING performs in comparisen to these more expensive cards.
Fantastic channel. For the past 3 weeks I've been through every little detail of getting my components chosen for a new build. This channel has proven invaluable in that process. The level of detail in the testing and presentation, as well as simply honest(brave) and clear conclusions is almost unique on YT.
I'm still happy with the FTW3 vs the Strix. Asus's CS and warranty is nothing compared to EVGA's, plus it would seem the Strix has some fairly bad coil whine issues. From what I have seen almost 1 in every 2 Strix cards has that issue...not something I want to deal with.
i have a 1080ti strix which is completly silent even at 50% fan speed
If this is a response to the coil whine bit, your fan speed has absolutely nothing to do with coil whine.
Also, I can't really hear my FTW3 fans at 50% fan speed either lol.
Coil whine is still very dependant on the model and quality of the capacitors used. Why do you think coil whine is such a big issue with so many FE cards? Same with the Asus. It's fairly common on specific cards for a reason.
a card wont get coil whine when the capacitors are good quality.
also evga will Always help you their customer service is amazing.
i love the asus cards but i love the evga cards even more.
So this begs to question, any chance we'll see an SC Black vs SC2 comparison or blurb? :) On the surface, it appears they both have the same cooler and same clock, same reference design - the SC2 just adds the sensors and RGB lighting instead of white only for the SC?
My 1080TI FTW3 is the best card I’ve gotten in years. Still use the bad boy without any problems. I love watching these videos still.
yea i still have my EVGA 1080ti ftw3 and is still a beast ...
I needed this after watching Jay go crazy over the FTW3. I'm happy with my decision going with the Strix OC.
The strix isn't a good card...it's a great one
oh man, I Remember when 1080 TIs were 750-800 bucks those were the good old days.Now its About 900-1000 FOR ONE GRAPHICS CARD!
This guy looks like Winter soldier's lesser known brother, Spring Break soldier. No but for real these reviews are some of the best and most technically detailed I've seen which is exactly what I'm looking for. Keep up the great work!
Just buy a Asus 1080ti strix OC with 400$. It's really cool.
What about zotac amp extreme? Do you still have beef with zotac after that review?
847,628 views What happened?
Yeah I'm curious about this as well.
he torched zotac with his 980 review
847,628 views I actually looked it up right after I asked. Yeah he laid the massive smackdown on them.
Wait wat? They are have but my mobo is horizontal so I don't have the sag.
Still daily driving mine for 6 years now. I've upgraded everything else a year ago except the GPU, because why not? It still works flawlessly for my 1440p needs
Your folks' production values are getting really awesome
I had 1060-6gb and 1070 by Asus GOG Strix. Not bad at all, but buyng 1080Ti i decided to try MSI GaminX and noticed that it not so noisy at 75-100% fun speed.
PLEASE STOP with the generic "% of max" for fan speed measurements! If the max RPM of one brand is significantly different than another, it makes a direct comparison of "50% fan speed" completely meaningless! SPECIFY AN EXACT RPM NUMBER PLEASE!
Char Aznable "She could have been a mother to me!"
"I asked for ketchup! This is TARTA!"
I chose the EVGA because of the 2 slot size.
I'm at work and this just popped up in my feed! At least I can read the article.
Finally someone has intelligent methodology comparing (normalizing) by dBA output! I was so waiting for this. Comparisons based on % fan speed need to stop, it is dumb - the fans have different shapes and different dBA at different % speed and also the max rpm of cards differs - other reviewers take notes from Gamer Nexus.
Thank you guys for all the hard work put into these tests and videos. A purchase like this is a rather big decision to most, and it's always great to find detailed information about it to help make the purchase decision easier and more clear.
Hey Steve there is a Non-oc version of this card that is at the $750 price point.
just ordered one cant fcking wait
Same just grabbed the non oc one as the oc version was not in stock and with Pascal higher stock oc doesn't really guarantee anything
My OC version only got +50 to core....Boooooo
If only MSI listened and stopped this stupid red+black color scheme. The Twin Frozr VI is getting great reviews for every product it's on but I'll still never buy it. Hopefully they take the hint next generation and either make their Quicksilver edition the go to or all black with red accents being optional somehow.
Just bought this card in 2020! I CANT WAITTTTTTT
I respect that the advertisement in the video has something to do with the product I’m looking at. Instead of some random shit
Fantastic review and new charts. Extremely helpful and you are completely right... when it comes down to it, you are paying more for the cooling and noise performance differences and that is exactly what you tested. Thanks for the hard work!
I was finally able to make a purchasing decision after watching this. Thanks GN for finding a meaningful way to differentiate these cards for us
That strix cooler on the 1070ti is a beast. More impressed than the 1080ti gaming X on the other computer!
You should include examples of sounds produced when game is played couple of hours in NIGHT time. For example by recording sounds by microfone. Because sometime fans produces noise on 'bad' frequency. So it can be silent, but if you play in the night, it makes you tired and irritate
What do you recommend for 4k and VR gaming ? On 1080 ti ?
Love the tests normalized for noise, great work!
Just when I thought you guys couldn't get much better, you proved me wrong. Love the new chart
13:02 You DEFINITELY should have a temperature test with 100% fans, (core, mem and VRM). That should also include clockspeeds or use identical clocks.
I love my new STRIX! Beautiful, cool and powerful! Oh and it's actually available for purchase.
Gamers Nexus - please give me straight answer. If money are no issue and all I care is max possible Overclock with min noise and best temps- EVGA FTW3 or Asus ROG STRIX? Or should i just choose what lokks better? Thx
Julatz Schmulatz if he was after over clocking then I would recommend the evga and do a hybrid mod like GN did as that way you can monitor temps for the overclock
I bought a Asus Turbo 1080Ti and put a Morpheus II cooler on it. It’s quiet at Low rpm with my two ML120 fans and I only hit max temp 46 degrees at stock 1911mhz @.893v
My only issue is I can’t measure the vram and vrm temps hence my recommendation for the evga model.
OptimumTech did a great video comparing the two custom coolers on the evga - I recommend having a look
Great video!! very comprehensive! Is it safe to use liquid metal thermal paste on this card?
Will you guys ever cover Zotac cards? I'd love to see a buildzoid teardown since they're usually some of the faster cards offered.
Choosing this card for the noise and for it to match my Asus Code mobo, gotta sync that lighting.
I cant get it to sync with deluxe II motherboard. Arura keeps crashing and a Dr Help webpage opens. Then the GC icon is removed from Arura. So may versions of the software too. Any tips?
hey ICY i just bought my asus code board and wanted to ask a quick question well maybe two as support cant seem to answer it, one do the leds on the motherboard when set to white seem to have a greenish blue glow to them for you or are they bright white? mine have a weird hue, second, are you using an AIO liquid cooler? when i have my corsair H100VI plugged into the cpu optional header the corsair led flickers and im not sure if that port isnt meant to work for it.
Thanks!
Yes, that is because there's only red, blue, and green LEDs in the board. When you want white, it mixes all of the colors to make white. So it is normal.
ugh do you know if the formula is any different in terms of the LED lights? and might i ask if you use an AIO
liquid cooler with your asus code mobo?
No, you can't really change the LED color when they're already installed in your mobo. (I use the NZXT Kraken x62) I normally use the blue breathing and the blue/purple tai chi in my aio.
I went with the EVGA 1080ti. I had an ASUS 1070 but didn't like GPU Tweak. Precision XOC is much better.
Good job on the dBA/temp charts!
a lot of the asus rog strix branded stuff look really nice
Great video as usual, thank you. I own this card; My view is that: It has great cooling, looks great, sags a bit on the mobo and has NOTICEABLE COIL WHINE.
Wow, way to think of something new and very useful.
liked and subbed!
Great video and thank you for all the benchmarking and numbers. Though, two measeruments aren't much valid:
50% and 100% fan speed as different fans have different speeds, and more importantly they have different airflow (cooling effect). So more reliable and comparable would be measing at certain volume of air going through - and that I guess isn't worth the effort, since it still doesn't tell much.
So maybe instead I would go for noise+temperatures at certain high as possible frequencies - which should produce same heat for dissipation - and either stock or best possible curve -> to really compare the fans/cooling possibilities (temperature vs noise).
I chose a pair of these to replace 3 980 TI(s) in Nvidia surround setup because 1) they're the only 2 slot top-end aftermarket 1080 TI which greatly helps with cooling in SLI; 2) EVGA has the best CS of any card manufacturer; 3) I can get advanced replacement RMA service from EVGA if one breaks; 4) the factory warranty transfers to next owner which makes selling my old EVGA 980 TI cards easy; I am able to recoup some of my investment when upgrading. The above for me far outweighs a fw db in sound difference which I can't hear outside the case anyway. This comparison really is doomed from the start as you can't compare a 2 1/2 slot card to a 2 slot card and call it an accurate comparison. The fact that EVGA is only a few db louder with such a large reduction in heat-sink surface area is a testament to the engineering & build quality inherent in the FTW. If the FTW was a 2 1/2 slot card I expect the results would be different... I do like the fan headers on the ASUS Strix though. That was a nice addition, especially if you can control them from the OC Software...
Could you guys do a video just like this one comparing the 2080 Ti models? Specifically the noise outputs?
So now that the Gaming x card is 850, the strix is the best card to buy. I sold my Evga 1080 ti SC Black Edition because it was a loud card. If all the 1080 ti preform the same, then temps. And noise are more important to me.
I'm opposed to all Pascal air-cooled architectural cards because the low frequency is unbearable after the heat rises to 60 degrees Celsius
You know, (and I believe I'm not the only one) why hasn't any GPU manufacturer offered a custom water cooling card that is w/o the fans and heat sinks? I mean cost wise they wouldn't lose any more money since they won't have to add the cost of the heat sink, fans and the weight for the shipping.
I think most people who are going to buy EVGA ftw3 is for the dual bios option, that alone is worth the extra for me, i am going to watercool it so fan charts dont matter to me
LOVE the charting concept
Does the power limit differ on any of the cars tested? I imagine that is probably the biggest separator in performance between cards
I love you for that ad I was looking for something like that OOOHH!!!
FTW3 is a 2 slot card so it fits in my DanA4 SFF pc, and i can choose from silver, red, blue, white, black and green for the shroud!
Would there be any value locking to a temperature, and measuring dB? Basically the inverse of what you just did here.
its basically has the same value, just lock one of the variable and you make a better and practical review.
but with the limitation of noise measurement they have it might be better to use relative high db target.
then they can use the same db at more low power cards and still be in range of the db meter.
That's basically what they do ALREADY when testing noise. The max temp is usually about 82degC. Even if there's a small difference between cards I don't think it would make much difference due to how BOOST works.
this review made me subscribe you guys rock
got evga hybrid kit for my FE card and its running great. and quiet. So far i'm really having fun with the card and i cant wait to see if it can drive asus' new 4k gsync hdr monitor coming out later this year.
We should just stick asus fanhub+fans on the evga card+heatsink
Hi Steve, I have a question on the OC charts that you use in your reviews. It has a bunch of pass and fail entries, but which one is that you ultimately use? Is it the final one on the list that Passes?
Why are Asus components so expensive? I could have understand it more than 5 years ago, however nowadays most performance and feature set are the same across the board, not to mention quality as well. In fact, other AIB are better and cheaper.
If you look at actual hardcore overclocking you can see that you're talking out of your rear. Strix have one of the best vrms and even the asus dual series (budget) is decent.
Now that makes it ant valid. Their marketing to an incredibly small subset of users. Also not to mention those same people would modify the hardware anyways. Finally it is just absurd to make it a fact that all Asus components are great overclockers when there are plenty of records broken using gigabyte, msi. Not sure I'm the one who is taking out of their a"".
This asus card is the best ti. And very few users are going to spend $900+ on a gpu and not overclock. And if they are "catering to a small subset", then good. I want to be catered to. Because I want to make a monster pc build. And I certainly have.
Would be interesting to see this compared to the arctic accelero extreme 4
Are there any bios mods which will just allow us to force a fixed clock speed when the card is handling 3D content? For example with the GTX 900 series cards, it was rather simple to disable the boost 2.0 function, raise the power limit, bump the voltage slightly, and then set the card to 1500MHz and have that clock speed regardless of the game.
Ahh , the gold days of GPUs , 780 dollars for the top of the line card .. , now you pay that for a second hand 2080 Ti
how do the MSI GAMING X and the ASUS ROG STRIX compare for temps and performance?
Hey man i know this is an older video, but Ive always wondered why my "boost clock" was 1897 but in the evga software it was well above 2001. Is it similar to my i5 8400, it says 2.8GHz but always runs at 4.1GHz? Will we be seeing this in the next few generations?
As allways very informative review and video about GPU:s. As non native English speaker i would love sometimes bit slower phase on speak or some places, but more importantly very precise pronunciation on some cases. ie. very techno bable stuff.
But all in all cool to see that there still actually sites that really do they work on different computer / gaming related previews.
Like you see many many typos etc incorrectly writen words here so :) be that in mind, i did not mean in negative way.
Sadly the TI prices in here Europe expcialy in Finland are extraordinarly pricy ie. 950-1k €
Also this is old video but still :)
right step taken! That's exactly what I've wished for!
A nice addition to the 40dba test would be to try to clock all the cards to f.e. 1800 MHz to eradicate the differences between the factory overclocks.
MSI's cards have allways been cooler than all the others at low fan rpm, resulting in the quitetest card of them all. also the exact frequency noise the fans generate are a more comfortable sound than other fans, so when your chart says it is 1dB lower, in real life its experienced like maybe 4dB really.
Great testing that results in intriguing review
4:55 "Our first chart is a simple one." *_Features three y-axes._* 😂
What settings do you use for furmark/kombustor in your power virus scenario? Which flavor of donut, resolution, time, etc.? Thanks!
i ended up getting this card. and holy crap is it a beast.
Ghosty wun which card?
I wouldn't say that Aorus Extreme is the least favourable as buying one gets you 4 years of warranty compared to 3 years given by other manufacturers (if I remember correctly Zotac only gives 2 years of warranty on their cards). Also in Europe its cheaper than Asus by about $25-50. The only thing that I don't like on Aorus is that it's bigger than the rest (3 slots vs 2.5).
definitely would prefer the gigabyte auros xtreme. This card really looks beast.
Hey GN! I have a few questions about GPU temps. I tried looking through the article and maybe I missed it, but I was wondering what resolution you do your temperature tests at, or even resolution even matters in the first place. I'm curious because I recently got a Zotac 1080ti AMP edition (not extreme), and my temps in BF1 and GTA V at 4K Ultra usually settle at 80c with 80% fan speed. Considering I had a 1080 FE before this that achieved basically identical thermals and noise, I was expecting a bit more out of an aftermarket card. Are these thermals just normal for 4K Ultra? Or would cards like the Gaming X and Strix OC have lower temperatures? Thanks!
Strix gets my vote for looks but the ftw3 is nicely overbuilt and will last longer not to mention that frequency curve its the real test
Nothing wrong with the FE cooler if you reviewers turn up the fan to 60%+ 55c no noise in a positive pressure case
My Current set up consist of a 980 TI I am running three monitors one Dell 34 ultra wide and 2 Dell 27 inch for a 3 monitor set up I'm considering the EVGA 1080 TI or the Asus Strix 1080 TI. I do some gaming and also video creation. I like the fact that the EVGA has three display ports is why I'm considering the EVGA 1080 TI over the strix any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks !
and people dont believe me when i tell my gpu when OCed to 2126 mhz runs at 69c (at 23c ambient), dis a 1080 tho, not the ti. not only does Asus's cooler perform amazingly, it simply just looks amazing (: that is ofc objective. with fans at 1800rpm (49% i think). this is after 5 hours of a stabilitytest :P ive since just set it to 2000 mhz just cause of ocd, and well, its like a 1% performance difference. just to top it all off tho, (this was at black friday ofc, when the 1080 prices were higher) for 620 bucks outside of the US. aint got a single complain about this card, Asus really nailed the 10 series cards (or the strix). Keep up the goodcontent GN, basically the only tech channel i watch anymore.
I like the asus
But I just paid 470 after tax for a g1 1080, where the cheapest asus is 550...USD
Hard to justify the price differences, granted the higher quality gigabyte is similarly ridiculously priced
if everything youre after is a 1080, it probably wont matter much which one you go with, and i totally would get the price differences and how they matter more. i have yet to see another 1080 go for lower than what i paid for mine durring black friday (even today) unless its the cheaper models on sales, in my country :P 470 usd sounds amazing tho! i myself care a bit too much about looks and cooling so for me personally, i'd pay the full price(after the 1080 price reduction, its now at a 725 usd) for the strix if i had to :P price of being into case modding and overclocking i guess ;D
I'm not sure if Gigabyte made too many or what, but they're selling both teh G1 1070 and 1080 over here for considerably less than every other 3 fan competitor. Matching founders edition pricing
I hadn't considered there would be different patterns outside the US, that was silly of me.
just double checked, and gigabyte actually do have a model that is 680 usd, thats not bad at all! its far from 470, but way lower than 725 so! the cheapest atm is a palit at like 640 bucks :P but thats a dual fan one, not to mention the area of the 'lower' quality ones :P
Jesus I can only imagine what a Titan costs there
I wouldn't have gone for any higher than the 1070 but I saw that 1080 for 100 more and couldn't help myself
exactly what I want to see! I want low noise with good temps :-)
actually low noise is in the 20db range, i think they went a bit liberal with the noise levels because you cant cool a 1080 ti card very quiet.
ROG strix is the future of air coolers it perormance for noise is next level
Damien yeah no, sleeve bearing fans on a $750 card when everyone else is using ball bearing for cheaper prices
EVGA and MSI are priced the same right now on Newegg (780). Might as well go for EVGA for performance correct? Or is db level that big of a reason to buy MSI Gaming X regardless?
I am curious if the MSI GTX 1080 Ti Sea Hawk X would perform better than these cards. I've heard there is a coil whine on some of them. Is that on all of those cards or just some that were produced incorrectly. Are there any other AIO cards out there for GTX 1080 Ti?
i think at 40 db sea hawk could perform better, but pure db measurement would not account for how pleasant a noise is, only loudness, coil whine or pump noise or radiator turbulence adds more variables.
but seriously 40 db is quite loud, 20 db is silent, 30 db is ok for some people living in a noisy environment and 30 db is within range of gamers nexus testing. 40 seem like a bad choise
long video, but uh Performance(overclocking) to temperature to noise levels/warranty for canada, which of these are the best? I really want to buy one of them but cant deicide.
I'm trying to figure out how he makes the statement that the Aorus card is the less favorable card when the only thing it wasn't keeping up with or doing better than the Strix is was the vram cooling. Everything else on the charts, as well as the lower price point makes me see the Aorus as the better card in many ways.
Read up on the Aorus cards a bit, I was going to buy one, cancelled the order because there's a 200+ page thread of customers with massive stability issues right out of the box, not even in OC mode. its a shame, it looked like a great buy.
- Patamaran - stability issues? Mines running fine
what could be the best 1080ti for me if I want the best performance without caring about acoustics and price? thanks!
EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 vs ASUS ROG Strix GeForce GTX 1080 Ti OC.
Which is the better Card?
*B-but where is Z-zotac amp exterme?*
So if you are going to water a 1080 ti all cards are the same?
Should I get the OC version or the normal asus?
sry if this question is not Video related, but can you guys make a ryzen oc Video? And is it possible to oc the automatic Turbo boost? Because i dont want to run my ryzen permanently on 4 ghz.
So if I add the msi gtx 1080 ti lightning which one would be more quiet?