How you remember where everything goes when you put that engine back together is beyond me, I salute you sir. Thanks for the video Warren, good content.
The amount of knowledge you pertain is amazing. Very blessed to be able to be alive during your lifetime and learn from what you teach us. Thank you Warren. Another great video! Love the commentary and stories you have to tell!!!!
People need to buy tangible item's, and extra stuff they might need, because you are right Warren. So many people are gonna be caught with their draws down. Love your video's, God bless you and yours.
Your absolutely correct Warren. We are losing our way. I've seen you transfer stuff from 1 block to another, but this motor is the worst, pure garbage! Your knowledge amazes me that you can remember where everything goes. Great video! Thanks for sharing.
Great video Warren it's always fun to disassemble the newer emissions engines. When you figure out how many different things you have to remove. Looking forward to the next video on this engine stay safe.
Standing about helping my dad cut up a fallen tree on the side of a hill as the sleet blew around us might be the coldest I have ever been! Great stuff Warren!
Totally agree ….. the world has gone crazy. The sad part is. ……. this has been a carefully orchestrated effort which allows some elites to have more power and money. Us common folk only get to deal with all the crap.
hi Warren , greetings from sunny Queensland Australia , obvious to me , design guys thought!!! our engines are so good they would not need to be dismantled often !!!! cheers mate.
Save the planet they say, so, we dig up more ore's, make a bigger mess of trying to save the planet. Perfect example of this is, take a long hard look at the electric vehicles today, especially the batteries. Environmentally unsafe period. Can't breath the fumes if it's on fire, can't escape said vehicle unless you know where all the mechanic locks/unlocks are at. Oh and the cost of said vehicle and the cost of said battery... Older equipment, vehicles are still far superior when you break it down and still less harmful to the atmosphere compared to what many will attempt to claim. Technology is a wonderful tool if used correctly but, today, just seems like we're taken backward steps now. Great video as always, cheers :)
The paint marks on the head bolts are from a cylinder head re torque campaign that the EPA 17 mx13 engine had trying to prevent head gasket failures from the relaxed torque to yield head bolts. I work at KW dealer and primarily on MX's. Watching you fight the easy stuff like the egr shield ( which the egr valve doesnt have to come off for) and valve cover cracked me up! Great video.
4/12/22; ...another fine video Warren! ..don't know how you keep track of all those components & their respective bolts 🔩, shaped tubes, connectors & sensors. You gotta have a librarian behind you cataloging & putting all these parts into some multisize pigeon-hole 'bookcase', aye? Maybe that is a quick 'aside' for this or another video 'quick-take' on how you keep track these very important components & their different size bolts 🔩. Thanks for mentioning this truck has 500,000+ miles (out of its expected 1 million miles...1/2 life expectancy) on it when -of all things- its crank shaft 💔 broke!! Unbelievable!! But here we are! Thank goodness you have the skill, experience, shop & tools to put a new short bloc back into this fine Peterbuilt truck 🚚. Stay safe Warren & keep all us armchair YT viewers informed. Much enjoy your camera close-ups of internal areas like exhaust crust inside t'manifold & the view of t'broken crank shaft...lots of hard work, awkward body positions to show us what you must do examine & repair these big trucks that haul the materials keeping our 🇺🇸 US economy running. You are doing a great job showing us the 'nitty-gritty' details of just how our professional highway truckers & farmers equipment must be maintained. Thank you for your honest comments & extra efforts. Carry on Sir!👍👍👍🧑🔧🚜😊
Damn Warren, what a freaking nightmare. Pile of garbage is right, you know some engineer someplace is really proud of that sewer flute he's designed. Bet the guy has never had to work on it himself though..Here's a joke for you, when an engineer fails his entrance exam at Rolls Royce he gets a job at Paccar. I can't get over the amount of extra crap hanging off the engine. Thanks for dragging us along with you on this "journey". Stay Safe !
I don’t know about the head bolt marking but my 2021 Pete has marking all over the bolts on the mounting brackets, air lines, fuel lines, etc…. Keep the videos coming. You have me considering selling my truck and becoming a mechanic.
I agree totally with you Warren about the stupidity of these ongoing changing environmental regulations. We went from a clean burning diesel to a diesel that sits there for hours at a time just burning diesel to clean a “filter” that reduces the smoke by .02% while running. The amount of times that a crew of us were standing there waiting for the excavator to finish its two hour regen just so we could use it for a two hour job. My former company spent close to a billion dollars over the years to come up with a dry Low NOX combustion system. After 12 years of development they had the machines running at less than 10 ppm NOX when a normal machine used to run at 150 ppm. California ruled it was not good enough to run 10 ppm. They wanted 5 ppm. To get there required a DEF exhaust system that used an ammonia compound circulating through the exhaust gas. When the fluid is spent it is now a Toxic waste and must be disposed of by the operator and these same regulators do not care that this is the result of their stupid demanding regulations. 10 ppm was not good enough. So what is.
They say the diesel exhaust causes cancer."After three decades of epidemiologic research, diesel exhaust was classified as a carcinogen in humans by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) in 2012 based on evidence of its carcinogenicity to the lung."
I agree, no thought process on repairs. Audi has a model, can’t remember which one, but one of the O2 sensors requires you to pull the engine and transmission to change it.
We in France have gone so crazy that they want to ban Dièsel and switch to all-electric, by closing nuclear power plants, Paris already bans mopeds, motor scooters and scooters, like Mao's China, all on bicycles, it's sick!
When I listen to you expound on your view of the world I imagine a Warren in a high level federal job going off on all the woke bureaucrats who actually believe they are smarter than the average citizen. Would be hilarious to sit in one of those meetings. And for reference, I retired from federal employment after 35 years. At times it was almost more than I could tolerate and I was in a field that didn't actually tell people what to do. Thanks for being an entertaining renegade.
You made the right call Warren to take the head off with the engine out the truck. I'm retired so most interested on your comments about supply chain problems. I just notice when shopping the gaps on the supermarket shelves.
Hey Warren, I hope your taking good video of that thing coming apart. You’re probably going to need some reference going back together. Thanks much for sharing your videos!
When I was serving my apprenticeship we had this turner who was trained by Rolls Royce company. He save our bacon so many times with his skills an precision. No bragging, no extra junk, no talk just do, modern companies could learn a lot from guys like that. The whole green movement is a total joke. How can a battery car save the planet. I bet the manufacturing process is toxic an the recycling of batteries even more so. Plastic, precious metals an an acid/alkaline....................
Warren, I agree with your take on the way things are and they are only going to get worse. I know the Pakistanis hate us but have you seen any of their channels? They would not only have fixed that crank but they would have fixed the lower end of the block. When the shtf they will survive. Unbelievable stuff they do. Mostly primitive but they get the job done. Good luck in all you do! Thanks for the videos!
That’s a good way of putting it Warren “ it eats its own shit all day “ Lol, looks cold over there, it’s a little better over here in the rogue valley, keep up the good work.
Good morning Warren. I worked for kenworth for about a year and did mostly cummins work but when I did work on the paccar product I've never seen the paint marks on the head bolts. There was an open campaign to check and retorque head bolts. That's would be an option or like you said the head has been off before.
Just wanted to compliment you on the video about the injectors from yesterday, but it's gone now. I have run 6.0's since they were new, and watched almost every video about them it seems. And your video had unique diagnosis info on it that I haven't seen elsewhere. Hope everything is going well for you 👍. One other idea, is make sure with those taller aftermarket oil filter caps, that the owner didn't put a short OEM type filter back in with the tall cap. Will make oil bypass and any debris in the oil is bad news for those oil driven injectors.
Not to mention all the diesel machines that build the factory, mine, process and ship the materials, ship the cars, tow them to the shop, etc, etc, etc.
You are completely right Warren. The people of America have lost the ability to think critically. They have lost the ability to think for themselves period. That will be the demise of America.
Its not just america its the entire world headed down the road of stupidity. For us thinkers and doers it is incredibly frustrating on a daily basis just to be around most humans because of this
Hi Warren 😃 what a cluster that engine is, the designer should get a boot in the family jewel's for even thinking about it, lol, I take it that the head needs some serious attention, or did I miss something, sounds like the spares situation is getting worse when things like filters are getting hard to find, are they made in USA or the far east?, it wouldn't surprise me , as just about everything has a Chinese connection these days. Thanks for another interesting video mate, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
Hi Warren! I love watching you work on the big trucks and tractors and you do very well with the quality of your videos. I will say that this Paccar engine is a complete joke and it gives me a headache to see that there is no thought process in the design of this motor. My dad's 1974 KW W900 that is still on the road making money has a Cummins big cam 350 and that old engine is so simple compared to this Paccar. My dad doesn't run to California or the eastern states thankfully.
Hey could you talk about gaining confidence being a young mechanic. I want to get in there and take stuff apart and fix things but I don't want to screw things up!! Any new job I've never done I ALWAYS second guess myself on most of the time I decide not to do it. Thanks for all the videos!
I don't no about Warren's veiw on this but any young guys who ever ask me similar questions to this is go get yourself something that runs fine take it completely apart to the last nut bolt and clip then put it all back together again so it runs, if it does you did OK if it doesn't go find the problem
I have heard of many problems with the Dutch Paccar engines. Is this another case of the duty cycle/load in USA too much for the European engine design? Certainly has been the case with ag engines.
How many hours on that engine? There is a trucking company next to us with 60-70 trucks all Petes and KW with paccar engines, they say when this engine gets to 20,000 hrs they are done. They have about 10 engines on the shop floor and a few trucks that have been parked at the fence for a year or two as they do a full drop in replacement. We have a Pete that we are swapping the MX for a C15 right now. Very hard to get parts for the MX these days.
4:26 1: If that letter arrived in my mailbox I would send a response saying 'I am moving out of this state over this. Fuck you.' 2: It would take a LOT of strongarming to convince me not to throw that junkpile MX-13 into the Marianas Trench and slap an 8v92 or 12v71 Detroit back in. I fucking love that two stroke Detroit howl and those engines are so fucking simple it isn't even funny. If they'll rotate, they'll run. If they don't rotate, give freeing it up a shot. If you get it freed off, it will run. They don't need hardly any wiring to speak of, they don't have any computer bullshit on them, they last basically forever...mmmmm.
I use to work for a Kenworth dealer and there was campaign for the big head bolts and they had to be torqued an additional 90 deg, so those marks could have been from another tech performing that campaign
Any time you have a machine of any type that you look at and say what a mess, it's a problem. When I went truck shopping and even preferred the Detroit to the Paccar it was because the way all the extra crap was handled by the manufacturer. Then again I live about 45 min away from Redford Mi, and have pulled many many trailers full out of the Detroit mfg plant. So I'm a little partial lol
hey Warren. with the 2019 Pete I was running, it had a head bolt recall and they marked the bolts, not to sure if that's the case there or not. have a good day budd
Check out the video on the c6.6 Perkins/cat head I just did that had the seats off center a mile from the factory. You will get a kick out of the lack of quality control!
There's an engine under all that junk somewhere Warren. Incredible that the engineers responsible can get their act together and have a better solution. Surprised anyone buys a Paccar if they're this bad. On a positive note, all this junk will keep you in work 😊
They are not that bad. In fact on a reliability scale they break down less than Cummins fitted to either Pete`s or Kenworth. And the workshop hours for an out of frame re-build are the same as the Cummins. But Mechanics are all objective and they have their favorites. More based on familiarity than anything else.
@@anthony1636 I live in UK and used to be responsible for a large fleet of these Eindhoven developed engines. I thought at the time they were very good. This version of the engine just seems so cluttered up with over complexity and cheap plastic parts. Emission stuff aside, I'm sure a good design team to come up with a neater execution of all these parts.
@@raycollington4310 Then you should know that Engines of today have to be complex, to adhere to all the Regulations. In fact the technicians in the shop I use, find them no harder to work on than either the Cummins or the Detroit. Unlike other power plants all of the main parts are on the outside and yes it does look cluttered " BUT it is accessible. rather than buried out of site and a Nightmare to get to. My own experience with the Paccar has been very good ( apart from all the emissions garbage ) but that also applies to the rest of the manufacturers. And at least with the Paccar the sensors are all easy to get to.
I would get the head pressure tested and the exhaust valves checked as the stems wear like an hour glass then it drops a valve.in europe you get front and rear casing oil module with a short block
From the factory paccar head bolts weren’t turned 180, so there’s a head bolt tightening campaign where you have to turn all the head bolts 180 degrees. That’s why you see the paint marks. The head has probably never been of it, because like I said in my last comment I’ve never seen a head come off a paccar and go back on. Normally it’s a new head because their heads are junk.
Amen to the people don’t use common sense thinking !! I’m a mechanic in mountains of Nc the company I work for cheaped out trying to use bio diesel in the winter pushing snow every plow truck with emissions went down and 2 new Deere graders pretty much ruined the hp pumps.
Ain't nothing wrong with pushrods. KISS. These engines don't rev high enough to benefit in any way, shape, or form from overhead cams and the ridiculous complexity associated with putting the cams up top just makes them even more of a nightmare to work on. OHC engines don't really start to shine until they're revving north of 6,000RPM or so. These engines are lucky to hit 2,000RPM without exploding and generally run out of puff well before that. And honestly with this engine having 4 valves per cylinder there probably wouldn't be anything in the difference even if it could rev high enough.
How many of these have you been through? I have done hundreds of e model overhead cat engines and isx engines, I can have a cam out of 3 overhead engines and back together before 1 pushrod POS engine.
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 There's no real advantage to having the cams up there except added complexity and marketing wank. These engines don't rev high enough to benefit from what overhead cams have to offer. The cam is a part that should have a lifetime greater than the lifetime of the engine as an entire unit and should only need replaced when the entire engine is being overhauled. How quickly you can get the cams out is irrelevant, except to say that those OHC engines are pretty trash if you're having to change the cams in them in the first place.
Stop buying new. Rebuild old. That is the only way to change this shit. And when someone asks why you are driving an old truck tell em no emissions shit and its as clean as with
Over forty years ago a friend of mine, Ted Pritchard a fellow Australian, designed and built a modern steam unit. It went to America and was demonstrated to the vehicle builders and senators successfully. All decided that was the way to go. It was the lowest emission engine in the world and probably still is. What happened? Nothing. In my opinion it was because all the R and D industry had spent on the internal combustion engine would have been voided. I could be excused for believing the gutless govt. we had at the time went out of their way to destroy that project. Steamers can burn liquids, solids. gasses and residuals cleanly while internal combustion engines use low flashpoint high grade premium fuels and still produce high emission levels. By turning to steam visual pollution levels could have been cut by 90% in L.A. The system is so simple unlike the complicated mess seen on the Paccar, much cheaper to build and does not require the sophisticated machinery in production. A steamer would leave a diesel for dead as far as maintenance goes. So why are there no steamers? Again I could be excused for believing it's not about pollution, it's about the good old dollar.
Your right about that, these rich oil companies buy the patents for any technology that might put them out of business. The guy who came up with the idea gets a couple million dollar pay out and the oil company has the rights to the technology and does nothing with it.
I’ve got a MX13 PACCAR with a cracked head in five places; got a shop working on it now, put a new head on it, fired it up, and immediately started leaking again. Come to find out, the “new” head was also cracked from the factory. Supposedly have a new head, just waiting on new head bolts because, ya know, once you use the head bolts once, you can’t reuse them. F. M. L. And! My MX13 is neutered, which is probably why it cracked the head in the first place. Hell, who knows? 🙄
How you remember where everything goes when you put that engine back together is beyond me, I salute you sir. Thanks for the video Warren, good content.
Master tech minded same thing I tell my self when I take something apart
This guy in an encyclopedia of mechanical knowledge. Top content my friend 👍👍👍
The amount of knowledge you pertain is amazing. Very blessed to be able to be alive during your lifetime and learn from what you teach us. Thank you Warren. Another great video! Love the commentary and stories you have to tell!!!!
People need to buy tangible item's, and extra stuff they might need, because you are right Warren. So many people are gonna be caught with their draws down. Love your video's, God bless you and yours.
As a baker, been stocking up on flour, and wine.
yeah don't buy anything intangible lol
You are so correct on everything Warren Shtf is coming Evil is out and about. Take care.
Well look at that.after several hours of work there was a motor underneath all that plastic and emissions crap. Always a good job.
Your absolutely correct Warren. We are losing our way. I've seen you transfer stuff from 1 block to another, but this motor is the worst, pure garbage! Your knowledge amazes me that you can remember where everything goes. Great video! Thanks for sharing.
Just goes to show you if you can fix anything you will always have work. Keep at it.
Great video Warren it's always fun to disassemble the newer emissions engines. When you figure out how many different things you have to remove. Looking forward to the next video on this engine stay safe.
Standing about helping my dad cut up a fallen tree on the side of a hill as the sleet blew around us might be the coldest I have ever been! Great stuff Warren!
Totally agree ….. the world has gone crazy. The sad part is. ……. this has been a carefully orchestrated effort which allows some elites to have more power and money. Us common folk only get to deal with all the crap.
hi Warren , greetings from sunny Queensland Australia , obvious to me , design guys thought!!! our engines are so good they would not need to be dismantled often !!!! cheers mate.
Save the planet they say, so, we dig up more ore's, make a bigger mess of trying to save the planet. Perfect example of this is, take a long hard look at the electric vehicles today, especially the batteries. Environmentally unsafe period. Can't breath the fumes if it's on fire, can't escape said vehicle unless you know where all the mechanic locks/unlocks are at. Oh and the cost of said vehicle and the cost of said battery... Older equipment, vehicles are still far superior when you break it down and still less harmful to the atmosphere compared to what many will attempt to claim. Technology is a wonderful tool if used correctly but, today, just seems like we're taken backward steps now. Great video as always, cheers :)
Try an dispose of one of the wind mill generators .......And they keep putting them up ......
The paint marks on the head bolts are from a cylinder head re torque campaign that the EPA 17 mx13 engine had trying to prevent head gasket failures from the relaxed torque to yield head bolts. I work at KW dealer and primarily on MX's. Watching you fight the easy stuff like the egr shield ( which the egr valve doesnt have to come off for) and valve cover cracked me up! Great video.
Not to mention not following the de torque sequence of the head(also a KW tech)
4/12/22; ...another fine video Warren! ..don't know how you keep track of all those components & their respective bolts 🔩, shaped tubes, connectors & sensors. You gotta have a librarian behind you cataloging & putting all these parts into some multisize pigeon-hole 'bookcase', aye? Maybe that is a quick 'aside' for this or another video 'quick-take' on how you keep track these very important components & their different size bolts 🔩.
Thanks for mentioning this truck has 500,000+ miles (out of its expected 1 million miles...1/2 life expectancy) on it when -of all things- its crank shaft 💔 broke!! Unbelievable!! But here we are! Thank goodness you have the skill, experience, shop & tools to put a new short bloc back into this fine Peterbuilt truck 🚚.
Stay safe Warren & keep all us armchair YT viewers informed. Much enjoy your camera close-ups of internal areas like exhaust crust inside t'manifold & the view of t'broken crank shaft...lots of hard work, awkward body positions to show us what you must do examine & repair these big trucks that haul the materials keeping our 🇺🇸 US economy running. You are doing a great job showing us the 'nitty-gritty' details of just how our professional highway truckers & farmers equipment must be maintained. Thank you for your honest comments & extra efforts. Carry on Sir!👍👍👍🧑🔧🚜😊
Thanks for sharing your work Warren, I enjoyed watching it after I'd finished mine.
Damn Warren, what a freaking nightmare. Pile of garbage is right, you know some engineer someplace is really proud of that sewer flute he's designed. Bet the guy has never had to work on it himself though..Here's a joke for you, when an engineer fails his entrance exam at Rolls Royce he gets a job at Paccar. I can't get over the amount of extra crap hanging off the engine. Thanks for dragging us along with you on this "journey". Stay Safe !
Great video ,thanks for sharing Warren 👍
You are 100% right on working on these motors
I don’t know about the head bolt marking but my 2021 Pete has marking all over the bolts on the mounting brackets, air lines, fuel lines, etc…. Keep the videos coming. You have me considering selling my truck and becoming a mechanic.
I'm with you on all this emissions bullshit ,more trouble than it's worth. From Australia keep up the good work mate
I agree totally with you Warren about the stupidity of these ongoing changing environmental regulations. We went from a clean burning diesel to a diesel that sits there for hours at a time just burning diesel to clean a “filter” that reduces the smoke by .02% while running. The amount of times that a crew of us were standing there waiting for the excavator to finish its two hour regen just so we could use it for a two hour job. My former company spent close to a billion dollars over the years to come up with a dry Low NOX combustion system. After 12 years of development they had the machines running at less than 10 ppm NOX when a normal machine used to run at 150 ppm. California ruled it was not good enough to run 10 ppm. They wanted 5 ppm. To get there required a DEF exhaust system that used an ammonia compound circulating through the exhaust gas. When the fluid is spent it is now a Toxic waste and must be disposed of by the operator and these same regulators do not care that this is the result of their stupid demanding regulations. 10 ppm was not good enough. So what is.
The Problem is the bureaucrats employed by left leaning politicos. None of these people have ever lived in the same dimension/world as us.
They say the diesel exhaust causes cancer."After three decades of epidemiologic research, diesel exhaust was classified as a carcinogen in humans by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) in 2012 based on evidence of its carcinogenicity to the lung."
I agree, no thought process on repairs. Audi has a model, can’t remember which one, but one of the O2 sensors requires you to pull the engine and transmission to change it.
I hate those damn plastic christmas tree thing's for all the modern equiptment with miles of wiring, sure miss the old stuff.
That surely is one of the most complex engines I have ever seen. An apt name for it would be "NIGHTMARE" as it would scare the s@#% out of me.
We in France have gone so crazy that they want to ban Dièsel and switch to all-electric, by closing nuclear power plants, Paris already bans mopeds, motor scooters and scooters, like Mao's China, all on bicycles, it's sick!
When I listen to you expound on your view of the world I imagine a Warren in a high level federal job going off on all the woke bureaucrats who actually believe they are smarter than the average citizen. Would be hilarious to sit in one of those meetings. And for reference, I retired from federal employment after 35 years. At times it was almost more than I could tolerate and I was in a field that didn't actually tell people what to do. Thanks for being an entertaining renegade.
You made the right call Warren to take the head off with the engine out the truck.
I'm retired so most interested on your comments about supply chain problems. I just notice when shopping the gaps on the supermarket shelves.
Hey Warren, I hope your taking good video of that thing coming apart. You’re probably going to need some reference going back together. Thanks much for sharing your videos!
When I was serving my apprenticeship we had this turner who was trained by Rolls Royce company. He save our bacon so many times with his skills an precision. No bragging, no extra junk, no talk just do, modern companies could learn a lot from guys like that. The whole green movement is a total joke. How can a battery car save the planet. I bet the manufacturing process is toxic an the recycling of batteries even more so. Plastic, precious metals an an acid/alkaline....................
Thanks for your time and consideration Warren you're right in everything you say 🚛🇺🇸🇬🇧🚛🦅
Another great video glad to see you’re staying busy be safe
That motor is what I call a boat anchor :)
Warren, I agree with your take on the way things are and they are only going to get worse. I know the Pakistanis hate us but have you seen any of their channels? They would not only have fixed that crank but they would have fixed the lower end of the block. When the shtf they will survive. Unbelievable stuff they do. Mostly primitive but they get the job done. Good luck in all you do! Thanks for the videos!
That’s a good way of putting it Warren “ it eats its own shit all day “ Lol, looks cold over there, it’s a little better over here in the rogue valley, keep up the good work.
Good morning Warren. I worked for kenworth for about a year and did mostly cummins work but when I did work on the paccar product I've never seen the paint marks on the head bolts. There was an open campaign to check and retorque head bolts. That's would be an option or like you said the head has been off before.
Just wanted to compliment you on the video about the injectors from yesterday, but it's gone now.
I have run 6.0's since they were new, and watched almost every video about them it seems. And your video had unique diagnosis info on it that I haven't seen elsewhere. Hope everything is going well for you 👍.
One other idea, is make sure with those taller aftermarket oil filter caps, that the owner didn't put a short OEM type filter back in with the tall cap. Will make oil bypass and any debris in the oil is bad news for those oil driven injectors.
Yep, like a local who owns a Tesla near me with the licence plate NOOIL believes he's saving the world one plastic bumper and interior at a time
Not to mention all the diesel machines that build the factory, mine, process and ship the materials, ship the cars, tow them to the shop, etc, etc, etc.
That "nooil"homeboy needs to go research on how plastics are made and how batteries are made. The how electricity is generated.
Ask him where the electricity comes from. How his tires are made and what from.
Thanks for another video, looking forward to the next one
I have a belief that if all engineers were required to work in a garage for a year things would not be such a pain to work on.
Warren a real engine master 👍
You are completely right Warren. The people of America have lost the ability to think critically. They have lost the ability to think for themselves period. That will be the demise of America.
Its not just america its the entire world headed down the road of stupidity. For us thinkers and doers it is incredibly frustrating on a daily basis just to be around most humans because of this
You are an awesome task master !!
Hi Warren 😃 what a cluster that engine is, the designer should get a boot in the family jewel's for even thinking about it, lol, I take it that the head needs some serious attention, or did I miss something, sounds like the spares situation is getting worse when things like filters are getting hard to find, are they made in USA or the far east?, it wouldn't surprise me , as just about everything has a Chinese connection these days. Thanks for another interesting video mate, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
Hi Warren! I love watching you work on the big trucks and tractors and you do very well with the quality of your videos. I will say that this Paccar engine is a complete joke and it gives me a headache to see that there is no thought process in the design of this motor. My dad's 1974 KW W900 that is still on the road making money has a Cummins big cam 350 and that old engine is so simple compared to this Paccar. My dad doesn't run to California or the eastern states thankfully.
Hey could you talk about gaining confidence being a young mechanic. I want to get in there and take stuff apart and fix things but I don't want to screw things up!! Any new job I've never done I ALWAYS second guess myself on most of the time I decide not to do it. Thanks for all the videos!
I don't no about Warren's veiw on this but any young guys who ever ask me similar questions to this is go get yourself something that runs fine take it completely apart to the last nut bolt and clip then put it all back together again so it runs, if it does you did OK if it doesn't go find the problem
Looks like Paccar outengineered Navistar!LOL!
Thanks for the upload Warren! Like I tell folks all the time, common sense is not so common anymore. Pretty damn sad really!
Imagine how well an engine would be if it avoided all of the emissions junk.
I would say some don't need to imagine, some just think back
Plenty of thoughts into the design. It's to be as difficult as possible to make more returns to the dealer for service and repair.
You know you're right there I don't think anybody's got any Common Sense anymore
I have heard of many problems with the Dutch Paccar engines. Is this another case of the duty cycle/load in USA too much for the European engine design? Certainly has been the case with ag engines.
How many hours on that engine? There is a trucking company next to us with 60-70 trucks all Petes and KW with paccar engines, they say when this engine gets to 20,000 hrs they are done. They have about 10 engines on the shop floor and a few trucks that have been parked at the fence for a year or two as they do a full drop in replacement.
We have a Pete that we are swapping the MX for a C15 right now. Very hard to get parts for the MX these days.
I feel the same way about wind power. Complete waste of resources, and maintenance heavy support. People don’t look at the long game.
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1: If that letter arrived in my mailbox I would send a response saying 'I am moving out of this state over this. Fuck you.'
2: It would take a LOT of strongarming to convince me not to throw that junkpile MX-13 into the Marianas Trench and slap an 8v92 or 12v71 Detroit back in. I fucking love that two stroke Detroit howl and those engines are so fucking simple it isn't even funny. If they'll rotate, they'll run. If they don't rotate, give freeing it up a shot. If you get it freed off, it will run. They don't need hardly any wiring to speak of, they don't have any computer bullshit on them, they last basically forever...mmmmm.
Man that looks like a job and a half just stripping it down!
Stripping some engines in 2022 is like peeling an onion ,tears and all... 😁😁😂😂
Who engineered that engine the three stooges.
Thank you for the video Warren 👍, what a POS engine.
Observe what a *cluster fuck* that engine is-
now imagine the minds that facilitated that into being required by Law.
short block doesn't come with oil pump, pickup tube, block stiffener or oil pan, does come with a new flywheel though
Any more videos showing the shortblock.
Paint marks could be from a re-torque. Some models have a campaign for re-torquing that I’ve done and I paint them then but head doesn’t come off
I use to work for a Kenworth dealer and there was campaign for the big head bolts and they had to be torqued an additional 90 deg, so those marks could have been from another tech performing that campaign
"Why don't you just shit in your hand and eat it all day long", that statement was enough for me, goneeeee for good.
There was a campaign for a head bolt retorque an additional 90 degrees were you had to mark the head bolts. I assume that is why they are marked!
How many miles does this motor have on it When it came apart.
When you you putting the motor back in CT660. I need some info!!
Any time you have a machine of any type that you look at and say what a mess, it's a problem. When I went truck shopping and even preferred the Detroit to the Paccar it was because the way all the extra crap was handled by the manufacturer. Then again I live about 45 min away from Redford Mi, and have pulled many many trailers full out of the Detroit mfg plant. So I'm a little partial lol
Hey warren, does your service truck also have to meet the emission standards? Or what excludes it?
hey Warren. with the 2019 Pete I was running, it had a head bolt recall and they marked the bolts, not to sure if that's the case there or not. have a good day budd
Idk, I'm more convinced paccar makes a better engine than Cummins
From the rumor mill, John deere is trying to get away from egr and just use def and catalyst.
For getting the head done, I watch these guys (father and son) on YT. I don't know them other then watching on YT. Jims Automotive Machine Shop.
where's your shop located
Check out the video on the c6.6 Perkins/cat head I just did that had the seats off center a mile from the factory. You will get a kick out of the lack of quality control!
There's an engine under all that junk somewhere Warren. Incredible that the engineers responsible can get their act together and have a better solution. Surprised anyone buys a Paccar if they're this bad. On a positive note, all this junk will keep you in work 😊
They are not that bad. In fact on a reliability scale they break down less than Cummins fitted to either Pete`s or Kenworth. And the workshop hours for an out of frame re-build are the same as the Cummins. But Mechanics are all objective and they have their favorites. More based on familiarity than anything else.
@@anthony1636 I live in UK and used to be responsible for a large fleet of these Eindhoven developed engines. I thought at the time they were very good. This version of the engine just seems so cluttered up with over complexity and cheap plastic parts. Emission stuff aside, I'm sure a good design team to come up with a neater execution of all these parts.
@@raycollington4310 Then you should know that Engines of today have to be complex, to adhere to all the Regulations. In fact the technicians in the shop I use, find them no harder to work on than either the Cummins or the Detroit. Unlike other power plants all of the main parts are on the outside and yes it does look cluttered " BUT it is accessible. rather than buried out of site and a Nightmare to get to.
My own experience with the Paccar has been very good ( apart from all the emissions garbage ) but that also applies to the rest of the manufacturers. And at least with the Paccar the sensors are all easy to get to.
DEF: saving the world one plastic jug at a time. I wish I could put together the hours I have spent repairing after treatment crap
Every minute new complexity costs you, Milwaukee saves you two! Yeah well something like that.
I would get the head pressure tested and the exhaust valves checked as the stems wear like an hour glass then it drops a valve.in europe you get front and rear casing oil module with a short block
From the factory paccar head bolts weren’t turned 180, so there’s a head bolt tightening campaign where you have to turn all the head bolts 180 degrees. That’s why you see the paint marks. The head has probably never been of it, because like I said in my last comment I’ve never seen a head come off a paccar and go back on. Normally it’s a new head because their heads are junk.
Also I forgot to mention. It is a non serviceable head. So if a cup is cracked she’s fucked. Order a long block and don’t waste your time brother.
Thanks warren, I love the video's!
Amen to the people don’t use common sense thinking !! I’m a mechanic in mountains of Nc the company I work for cheaped out trying to use bio diesel in the winter pushing snow every plow truck with emissions went down and 2 new Deere graders pretty much ruined the hp pumps.
The best thing the owner could do is sell that pile immediately after you have it running. Maybe he could recoup some of his loss.
love warrens humor lol 😆
Ain't nothing wrong with pushrods. KISS. These engines don't rev high enough to benefit in any way, shape, or form from overhead cams and the ridiculous complexity associated with putting the cams up top just makes them even more of a nightmare to work on.
OHC engines don't really start to shine until they're revving north of 6,000RPM or so. These engines are lucky to hit 2,000RPM without exploding and generally run out of puff well before that. And honestly with this engine having 4 valves per cylinder there probably wouldn't be anything in the difference even if it could rev high enough.
How many of these have you been through? I have done hundreds of e model overhead cat engines and isx engines, I can have a cam out of 3 overhead engines and back together before 1 pushrod POS engine.
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 There's no real advantage to having the cams up there except added complexity and marketing wank. These engines don't rev high enough to benefit from what overhead cams have to offer.
The cam is a part that should have a lifetime greater than the lifetime of the engine as an entire unit and should only need replaced when the entire engine is being overhauled. How quickly you can get the cams out is irrelevant, except to say that those OHC engines are pretty trash if you're having to change the cams in them in the first place.
Do you know what the book hrs were to r/r the head ?
Check your mechanical advance.
Check the 3 wires on
Hall effect sensor inside HEI distributor.
Another Paccar boat anchor, I feel bad for the catfish.
Lost the ability to critically think but feel good emotionally.
Modern engines are forced to eat their own crap because of emission regulations, and I doubt it will get any better. Stay safe.
Stop buying new. Rebuild old. That is the only way to change this shit. And when someone asks why you are driving an old truck tell em no emissions shit and its as clean as with
What happened to 6.0 video? I was watching it and now it’s gone. Not complaining just curious. Keep up the good work warren.
Over forty years ago a friend of mine, Ted Pritchard a fellow Australian, designed and built a modern steam unit. It went to America and was demonstrated to the vehicle builders and senators successfully. All decided that was the way to go. It was the lowest emission engine in the world and probably still is. What happened? Nothing. In my opinion it was because all the R and D industry had spent on the internal combustion engine would have been voided.
I could be excused for believing the gutless govt. we had at the time went out of their way to destroy that project. Steamers can burn liquids, solids. gasses and residuals cleanly while internal combustion engines use low flashpoint high grade premium fuels and still produce high emission levels. By turning to steam visual pollution levels could have been cut by 90% in L.A. The system is so simple unlike the complicated mess seen on the Paccar, much cheaper to build and does not require the sophisticated machinery in production. A steamer would leave a diesel for dead as far as maintenance goes. So why are there no steamers? Again I could be excused for believing it's not about pollution, it's about the good old dollar.
Your right about that, these rich oil companies buy the patents for any technology that might put them out of business. The guy who came up with the idea gets a couple million dollar pay out and the oil company has the rights to the technology and does nothing with it.
I.am.so.sorry.to.tell.you.he.died.a.broken.man.on..a.pension.He.dedicated.his.life.to.steam.and.I.beieve.was.a.world.authority.See.Pritchard.Steam.Car.No.computers.He.could.control.steam.generator.superheat.and.had.a.very.efficient.engine.Diesels.have.become.a.scrap.iron.jungle.I.lost.a.fortune.in.that.venture.but.would.do.it.all.over.again.If.you.trust.politicians.or.big.buiness.seek.help.urgently.
500k and already out of the frame, I wonder how did that engine went through to fail.
Great comment about how the world thinks!!!
Do you know how fast this would be with a Cummins 400 with a PT pump 25 years ago lol
Why is the machine shop not willing to work on the head? What is wrong with the head? Looked pretty good to me.
Would you rather rebuild this engine or rebuild that kubota again? I’d say you enjoy them equally as much
I’ve got a MX13 PACCAR with a cracked head in five places; got a shop working on it now, put a new head on it, fired it up, and immediately started leaking again. Come to find out, the “new” head was also cracked from the factory. Supposedly have a new head, just waiting on new head bolts because, ya know, once you use the head bolts once, you can’t reuse them. F. M. L. And! My MX13 is neutered, which is probably why it cracked the head in the first place. Hell, who knows? 🙄