Here's the thing. We want people to drive less and use ebikes and public transit right? You ban whole classes of ebikes themselves, and you end up leaving out a whole transportation option that people might otherwise be willing to shift to. This is like banning cars for all their accidents. The answer is not a ban, but 1. dedicated bike roads to give space for bikes away from cars and 2. road rules for ebikes, including age restrictions
If you are on the road, regardless of vehicle (cars, mopeds, and bikes) used, you have to follow the rules of the road. This includes stop lights, stop signs, turn signaling, and speed limits. Sidewalks have speed limits of 15mph
Here we go again, Hawaii imposing more rules and restrictions. It wasn't the bike that killed the boy. 🤔 And why do you need to pay registration for a bike? Such a money hungry state!
No E bike operator rear ended an SUV, which caused E bike operator to veer onto the on coming traffic in which a truck collided with the E bike operator.
@@dan749 sorry the news had it wrong yesterday then. Not that I'm for young children riding these things but we have some really bad drivers here! Also I almost hit a kid on a motorized scooter recently. Idk how these parents let these kids ride these things.
@@cherylmedeiros6287 In the Netherlands they have actual bike and car road rules that integrate well and a system that acquaints people with both cycling and driving. Perhaps this underlines a need for a rework of Hawai`i road rules for both, accompanied by a required retest for all drivers and childhood education on road rules when using bicycles.
Less than 20 mph? All the e-bikes that the kids ride around on in my part of Waipahu are able to travel well past 20 mph. They are always zipping past vehicles that are traveling at speeds of 30-35 mph with ease.
@@Critique808 then anyone driving a car downhill in the same way would have gotten into the same kind of accident-- or rather, it would have been worse. In this case, it sounds like operator misuse.
Kam hwy good enough it’ll take you around the whole island. Bumbai you’ll get people fighting against you crying about tax payers money and how that’s not fair. They going cry you rivers lol.
@@jimvacuum it's because the bike lanes here are sub-par, a mere strip on the side of the road in many places. Not dedicated at all like what we actually need
It just seems that the government wants its due. I'm sorry but regulations should not be in the hands of government that has never ridden an e-bike get experts who have experience in riding these e-bikes to set the regulation Police Officers are not qualified to do this.
I agree it is the jackasses who drive cars in Hawaii that are the biggest problem! I've had right turning cars almost hit me in the crosswalk on a green light
As a former motorcycle rider I agree the biggest hazard to bicycle and motorcycle riders is other drivers. Lack of education and experience (age being in this category) are other significant factors. I don't know what the answer is...
I have ridden Motorcycles since I was 18 years old I'm now 70 years old every accident I have ever been in was caused by a driver of a car not seeing me. I don't care how good a rider you are you are going to have an accident. I had one while I was stopped at a stop sign a drunk driver plowed into the rear of my motorcycle, Tell me Bobby how would education prevented this?
What scary about these ebikes Reckless kid riding around no light no safety gears They need to learn the laq of the road before they can buy Atleast written test to know the rules of the streets
Why don’t they simply do something about terrible infrastructure for anyone not driving a car? $30 registration? Come. On. No developed country does that! Ones with MUCH better infrastructure. Fix your poorly planned areas!
WHY does HBL limit conducting their workshops mainly Downtown HNL/ WKK area. Every month, HBL could/should hold their workshops in different areas of Oahu, so as to avoid incidents such as Ewa Beach 12y/o. If HBL were Really concerned about education/prevention, they Would effort to reach out to ALL of Oahu, not just from Aiea/Kalihi/Manoa/Aina Haina/Hawaii Kai. There are bicyclists, both regular & e-bikes...All Over Oahu!
Some people live over the Pali/Likelike though (over the mountains). If someone wants to use an ebike for that commute, it doesn't make sense to limit them to 15mph. I think it's still way justified for faster ebikes to exist, just they should not be forced to ride with cars.
Here's the thing. We want people to drive less and use ebikes and public transit right? You ban whole classes of ebikes themselves, and you end up leaving out a whole transportation option that people might otherwise be willing to shift to. This is like banning cars for all their accidents. The answer is not a ban, but 1. dedicated bike roads to give space for bikes away from cars and 2. road rules for ebikes, including age restrictions
If you are on the road, regardless of vehicle (cars, mopeds, and bikes) used, you have to follow the rules of the road. This includes stop lights, stop signs, turn signaling, and speed limits. Sidewalks have speed limits of 15mph
I go 20mph on the sidewalk lol
Here we go again, Hawaii imposing more rules and restrictions. It wasn't the bike that killed the boy. 🤔
And why do you need to pay registration for a bike? Such a money hungry state!
Exactly
Wasn't the boy rear ended and thrown into the other lane? Maybe we need better driver education than bicycle education here!
No E bike operator rear ended an SUV, which caused E bike operator to veer onto the on coming traffic in which a truck collided with the E bike operator.
@@dan749 sorry the news had it wrong yesterday then. Not that I'm for young children riding these things but we have some really bad drivers here! Also I almost hit a kid on a motorized scooter recently. Idk how these parents let these kids ride these things.
@@cherylmedeiros6287 In the Netherlands they have actual bike and car road rules that integrate well and a system that acquaints people with both cycling and driving. Perhaps this underlines a need for a rework of Hawai`i road rules for both, accompanied by a required retest for all drivers and childhood education on road rules when using bicycles.
Less than 20 mph? All the e-bikes that the kids ride around on in my part of Waipahu are able to travel well past 20 mph.
They are always zipping past vehicles that are traveling at speeds of 30-35 mph with ease.
I know that road. It is downhill going Ewa bound from Kam highway. He was probably going faster than he should because of the downhill speed.
@@Critique808 then anyone driving a car downhill in the same way would have gotten into the same kind of accident-- or rather, it would have been worse.
In this case, it sounds like operator misuse.
I agree and some dont have lights
We need a highway that is dedicated for bikes only
Kam hwy good enough it’ll take you around the whole island. Bumbai you’ll get people fighting against you crying about tax payers money and how that’s not fair. They going cry you rivers lol.
There is, It is called the bike lane, trouble is cars are continuously crossing those lines daily to change lanes, to park
@@jimvacuum it's because the bike lanes here are sub-par, a mere strip on the side of the road in many places. Not dedicated at all like what we actually need
30 dollar fee is ridiculous and should be considered theft!
making it illegal won't stop kids... you guys are LAW CRAZY
A lot of the E-bikes that I seen has been upgraded to go faster. I’ve seen it go more then 40 mph.
Surron come stock at 45-50mph
It just seems that the government wants its due. I'm sorry but regulations should not be in the hands of government that has never ridden an e-bike get experts who have experience in riding these e-bikes to set the regulation Police Officers are not qualified to do this.
Ban them. Make the lards peddle.
shaddap! Ban cars then. And the bus, wheel chairs too! They should get off of their broke-back arses!
Oahu is just not a bike safe community.
It Really should be its a small island 🤓
Buy your kids a ebike show them how to use it safely, but in stead governments get involved and it cost you 30 dollars!
It's not only kids who are the problem...
I agree it is the jackasses who drive cars in Hawaii that are the biggest problem! I've had right turning cars almost hit me in the crosswalk on a green light
As a former motorcycle rider I agree the biggest hazard to bicycle and motorcycle riders is other drivers. Lack of education and experience (age being in this category) are other significant factors. I don't know what the answer is...
I have ridden Motorcycles since I was 18 years old I'm now 70 years old every accident I have ever been in was caused by a driver of a car not seeing me. I don't care how good a rider you are you are going to have an accident. I had one while I was stopped at a stop sign a drunk driver plowed into the rear of my motorcycle, Tell me Bobby how would education prevented this?
What scary about these ebikes
Reckless kid riding around no light no safety gears
They need to learn the laq of the road before they can buy
Atleast written test to know the rules of the streets
Why don’t they simply do something about terrible infrastructure for anyone not driving a car? $30 registration? Come. On. No developed country does that! Ones with MUCH better infrastructure. Fix your poorly planned areas!
The thing that killed the kid was the cars on the road.
E bike operator rear ended a SUV. Causing E bike rider to veer onto on coming traffic in which a truck collided with E bike operator.
dah PARENTS🍻
@@dan749 I know. If there were no cars no death. Death to cars.
WHY does HBL limit conducting their workshops mainly Downtown HNL/ WKK area. Every month, HBL could/should hold their workshops in different areas of Oahu, so as to avoid incidents such as Ewa Beach 12y/o.
If HBL were Really concerned about education/prevention, they Would effort to reach out to ALL of Oahu, not just from Aiea/Kalihi/Manoa/Aina Haina/Hawaii Kai. There are bicyclists, both regular & e-bikes...All Over Oahu!
Always someone ruining things for others
I have one that goes only 15 miles an hour it’s a dependable ride close to home and work
Some people live over the Pali/Likelike though (over the mountains). If someone wants to use an ebike for that commute, it doesn't make sense to limit them to 15mph. I think it's still way justified for faster ebikes to exist, just they should not be forced to ride with cars.
Man up and get a real bike.
E bikes, and standard bicycles should also be obeying all traffic rules, like stopping at stop signs.
Not standard bikes e-bikes
@@ClarkKent-tg6ls Regular bikes are required to follow the normal traffic laws when on the road.
Good luck enforcing
As a bus driver i hate having to go around them.
Den go Tru dem🍻
Taxpayers $$$$ can cover🤑
@@jwpoyapilom8315 dumb response
So hard yeah? I mean you gotta steer this way and then back that way. So humbug!
All i need is another japanese woman trying to tell me whats best for Hawaii
Pft! What does race have anything to do with this? What's your recommendation? More poi, hula and ulu maika?
Hey 8🐸8 puppets!
Can u clowns imagine in 4022, when MuliufiFAIL gets plugged in, dah caos on board??? 🥳
WAIT doesn't Sleepy 🍦Slow Biden's BBB plan mandate it???
You've been watching too many fake videos.
"No ways, brah! Was fo real, cause even da intahnet said so!"
🤗 let dem crash 🤪
Just like 8🤡8 politicians n dare puppets🌈🐸
Blue state baby!!! #SOROS