Overconfidence Led to Disaster - 3v3 Siege - Total War: Rome 2

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  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Apollo: Overconfidence Led to Disaster
    History: Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?

    • @kharnthebetrayer8251
      @kharnthebetrayer8251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also: Chasing Light Cav that seem to be fleeing leads to disaster

  • @aristotlemarkakis3085
    @aristotlemarkakis3085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Hey, I played Macedon and I wanted to catch the Carthaginian forces off guard. I also had 2 sally outs during that time. It didn’t quit work as well as I wanted but I made up for it in the end.

  • @johnssmith4005
    @johnssmith4005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +256

    Real Life Sieges : The defenders were able to hold a city for decades defending the walls
    Total War Sieges : Walls ?? You mean those things that keep us shade ??

    • @muhammadirfanjalaluddin1018
      @muhammadirfanjalaluddin1018 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Total war walls: papermache

    • @krishna4817
      @krishna4817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ye lol

    • @Cwrigz
      @Cwrigz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@muhammadirfanjalaluddin1018 lol

    • @vq-gamesblitz
      @vq-gamesblitz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well decades is a bit much, but years, yes

    • @kevinschmidt8101
      @kevinschmidt8101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@vq-gamesblitz "decades" is actually true. Just an example: the ottomans besieged Candia for 21 years

  • @mostserenechannelofvenice7190
    @mostserenechannelofvenice7190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Roman hastati:
    -are we going to win, general?
    Apollo:
    -shut up, MEATSHIELD!
    I loved it

    • @donbenthusen5470
      @donbenthusen5470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Roman hastati:
      -I’m Scared General
      Apollo:
      -shut up and get in there

  • @chriskipouros2834
    @chriskipouros2834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I feel like its Apollo's job to mension the batle of Thermopoly at least one time every video because he does that every time and especially when Sparta is on the batlefield and I love it!!!!!

  • @pimpinjt123
    @pimpinjt123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Apollo looks like he wants to cuddle with elephants.

  • @dagnir1960
    @dagnir1960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Snacks and Drinks at the ready

    • @salmanrizqankarima1448
      @salmanrizqankarima1448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Alwayss 🤛🏻

    • @noseenogo
      @noseenogo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Welcome all, to the slaughter of many snacks and drinks. The snackocalypse and drinkageddon if you will! ;)

  • @Ajan_S
    @Ajan_S 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    17:57
    Rome: we have you surrounded 2 armies to 1
    Sparta: I don't like those odds

  • @ConkerVonZap
    @ConkerVonZap 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    "They pikes aren't out..."
    -Apollo

    • @marinoutdoors
      @marinoutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      GET THOSE PIKES OUT!!!

  • @raisedTwIsTeD
    @raisedTwIsTeD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Rome had no plan. He was lined up all nice and pretty looked like he was going to have a tiered fight cycling in and out one row at a time, then he just charged everything in at once and impaled himself on spears.

  • @valentinoheartfield2542
    @valentinoheartfield2542 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Omg I have heard that warband sound before in your videos and I was going insane wondering why warband music was playing. Now I know.

  • @dancingtk
    @dancingtk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Talk about the Iceni more. That commander sure knew what he was doing. Highest KD ratio in the game and the most troops left alive. That chariot move was brilliant. Those archers could've been a much bigger problem to his allies pikes later on

  • @Munnaboi
    @Munnaboi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "I wouldn't want to intentially kill my horse even if that means scaring elephants"
    -Pixie 2021

  • @hranman485
    @hranman485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Apollo getting excited about keeping an eye on the mini map and catching the action in time is the kind of character growth that I come here for.

  • @noahi8187
    @noahi8187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For a moment there, those pikes from macedon almost made me have a aneurysm.

  • @tesstickle6974
    @tesstickle6974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer"

  • @TrippFuller
    @TrippFuller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    44:30 the guy in the bottom left be like: I got stabbed but I still want to t pose on the haters

    • @KingLouis420th
      @KingLouis420th 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol dead tpose on the haters. Kill me? You ThoughT

  • @patzeb21
    @patzeb21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow, and insidious killer
    No wait, wrong game

    • @justaguy899
      @justaguy899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see what you did there ... ;)

  • @thunderchild8548
    @thunderchild8548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    At the end of the Battle of Thermopylae there were 7,000 other free Greeks

    • @bendeguzborda5902
      @bendeguzborda5902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yes, it was a combined force, but when they realized that they are going to get flanked most of them fled. Only 300 spartans and 700 thebens remained. So yeah poor thebens nobody remembers them

    • @lucasavelli2945
      @lucasavelli2945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@bendeguzborda5902 Erodotus recounts that the Spartans forced the thebans to stay because they were suspected to cooperate with the Persians, and they did. Poor thebans? The thespians stayed and died with the Spartans though

    • @bendeguzborda5902
      @bendeguzborda5902 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lucasavelli2945 sorry my bad (altrough there are some speculations that the thebens, who fought were helping the greeks against the will of their city) I tought of the tespians, but I heard this thing long ago.

    • @lucasavelli2945
      @lucasavelli2945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bendeguzborda5902 no problem; it is not very clear what were those thebans doing since the sources contradict each other. Maybe the Spartans forced them to stay, maybe they were thebans who opposed the Theban policy of cooperation with the Persians.

    • @TheMHB199
      @TheMHB199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What's also funny is if we look at it through today's moral compass the Persians were the good guys.
      They didnt have the same level of slavery as the Greeks. Thier empire covered a huge area and as such had a lot more different races and peoples and cultures. Same for religion and there was significant religious freedom which almost no other empires have ever had to the same level.
      And to top it all off they achieved in Greece what their military aims were. So technically it was mission successful despite the Greek suicide mission at Thermopylae and the other battles that happened.

  • @Ytuser12382
    @Ytuser12382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love to see the consistent uploads. I've been enjoying your Total War content for over 5 years now. Keep doing you and thanks for bringing us hours of entertainment in our weeks.

  • @cannonfodder9724
    @cannonfodder9724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Seems like the “the defenders never win” rule is no longer available

    • @Savage.Doomer
      @Savage.Doomer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I have yet to see one of these games where the defenders don't win. Only 1 game out of the 20+ I have watched did the attackers win.

    • @antred11
      @antred11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, Rome was on the side of the attackers, so it was pretty much a given that the defenders would win ...

    • @cannonfodder9724
      @cannonfodder9724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@antred11 Hehe

  • @anthonyjiang2776
    @anthonyjiang2776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Been watching since 2016 love the content.

  • @VenomSeeker
    @VenomSeeker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3:22 I see you too make an alarm for when it's almost harvesting season.

  • @taherkuwawala6944
    @taherkuwawala6944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Snack ready for the sack

  • @feliksssander1554
    @feliksssander1554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    *clicks on video about how overconfidence leads to disaster*
    *Sees masses of Romans*
    Me: Yeah... I know where this is going...

  • @antttiny2243
    @antttiny2243 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gotta love the subtle M&B warabnd quest complete whistle! xD

  • @oryan4395
    @oryan4395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Poor Rome was like, "Be not afraid, for we are Rome! What can the Greeks do to us?!"
    *5 min later, Rome:* Run Away! Run Away!

  • @Hok_khi
    @Hok_khi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:23
    Looks Like King Harlaus Inviting You To The Feast Apollo

  • @gamelandmaster3680
    @gamelandmaster3680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:26 I was playing Mount & Blade: Warband when I heard that noise and was like, 'I didn't complete a quest. What's going on?" Lovely siege battle though.

  • @johnssmith4005
    @johnssmith4005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apollo say it with me : PRIN CHI PEH

  • @dagnir1960
    @dagnir1960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Got my siege pants on

  • @WormbokStudios
    @WormbokStudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    around 30mins i loved how there was one Praetorian behind the pikes

  • @lukezuzga6460
    @lukezuzga6460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Your overconfidence is your weakness."
    "Your faith in your friends is yours!"

  • @christopheryoung3617
    @christopheryoung3617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i wish that the general units emblem would have a part broken off or show damage when the general dies so you can tell without having too look for the individual himself

  • @ethanwase8846
    @ethanwase8846 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is sick keep up the work apollo

  • @jking6020
    @jking6020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lmao "without the pikeman" 🤣🤣

  • @yorkplays1595
    @yorkplays1595 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apollo,
    Have a great vacation! You certainly deserve it.

  • @Hok_khi
    @Hok_khi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait The Minute Apollo...I Have To Get My Snack And Drink

  • @nep3559
    @nep3559 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome battle! love the videos

  • @morgoth1179
    @morgoth1179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Apollo missed it but there was a moment off screen when the ranged defenders on the hill killed all the Syrian archers who got too close. Those archers could have made a huge difference either killing the defending range or pikes. Great replay Apollo!

  • @raheljamil1001
    @raheljamil1001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of elephant tactics in incendiary pig or flaming pig were recorded by the military writer Polyaenus and by Aelian.Both writers reported that Antigonus II Gonatas' siege of Megara in 266 BC was broken when the Megarians doused some pigs with combustible pitch, crude oil or resin, set them alight, and drove them towards the enemy's massed war elephants. The elephants bolted in terror from the flaming, squealing pigs, often killing great numbers of their own soldiers by trampling them to death.According to an account, Gonatas later made his mahouts keep a swine among elephants to accustom the animals to pigs and this practice was immortalized by a Roman bronze coin dating back to his time, which showed an elephant on one side and a pig on the other.

  • @jimmydean4494
    @jimmydean4494 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Roman army sure did give that away.

  • @christopheratwood9213
    @christopheratwood9213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    44:30 guys over here practicing his t pose

  • @Yoo-Kang
    @Yoo-Kang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    guy on the right, with grey and has a funni black smurf hat 9:50

  • @1101millie97
    @1101millie97 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    'They are going to break through the backside...' Nice.

  • @wolflightning2331
    @wolflightning2331 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Another hour to watch time to ready my dinner

  • @aryanrana5436
    @aryanrana5436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am from INDIA trying to understand .
    I really like your comentries

  • @sgtdishwasher4687
    @sgtdishwasher4687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Please someone, tell me how to beat Kush in a siege! I threw legionnaires at them. I've sent Praetorians at them. I've even tried using an army of gladiators, but I keep getting crushed by their shotel warriors.

    • @samisha5834
      @samisha5834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Cause those are really armoured units. Try light germanic units like the naked warriors.

    • @aguardman9267
      @aguardman9267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      use unit with high melee defense

    • @aguardman9267
      @aguardman9267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      is they can't hit you you can't be kill

    • @samisha5834
      @samisha5834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@aguardman9267 Usually low armour units have high meele def right

    • @aguardman9267
      @aguardman9267 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes

  • @thatonekid6576
    @thatonekid6576 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man... You're commentary is amazing lmfao

  • @the_rover1
    @the_rover1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:40 they lost that specific battle though 😅 after holding the narrow pass for like three days, and their city as well as attika subsequently have been looted and devastated by persia until the persian fleet has been beaten at salamis.

  • @thesiberianproductions3748
    @thesiberianproductions3748 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the T posing dude at 44:28 lol

  • @JoeXTheXJuggalo1
    @JoeXTheXJuggalo1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well now..... Don't be over confident in anything because that's when you make mistakes.

  • @Jaeremiah
    @Jaeremiah 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that balance of power tho shifted so much

  • @xZAEx
    @xZAEx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sound on point in this video !!!! Still love the high or tired Apollo 😘

  • @micjrod3455
    @micjrod3455 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I've learned anything from watching Apollo's video it is "Fear The Pikes."

  • @scuchtern4849
    @scuchtern4849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rome looks like a new player

  • @brownsrevenge303
    @brownsrevenge303 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Speaking about the "apollo curse".

  • @pain5253
    @pain5253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Early Love Rome 2 keep up Apollo

  • @SizedMedusa
    @SizedMedusa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Litterally no one
    Apollo: " oOo chaos"

  • @hyperion3145
    @hyperion3145 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Elephants can also go on roid rages during mating season and have been known to throw cars... And crocodiles

  • @ravencut1851
    @ravencut1851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apollo has the highground

  • @prolific138
    @prolific138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey pixelated Apollo! I wanted to add a special request I've been watching you for about 3 years now and I wanted to know if you can bring more battles of Thrones of Britannia!!! It's been alot of viking shows and just been a vibe for Vikings! If you can are you able to bring it back?!!! I appreciate your videos teaches me alot about strategy and history within these videos. DAY 1!

  • @killuminati477
    @killuminati477 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never saw the use of elephants they trample their own men more than the enemy

  • @Qcfreshdude
    @Qcfreshdude 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    44:28 Absolute Chad t-posing to assert dominance

  • @TheZombifiedGuy
    @TheZombifiedGuy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

  • @mixedgames6313
    @mixedgames6313 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    gas video
    love this game still

  • @jtheconqueror121
    @jtheconqueror121 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was it me, or did it look like Rome was trying to push some troops through the pikes around the 30 minute mark? Or was there a gap I couldn't quite see that he was getting through, cus it looked like Rome was getting behind the pikes for a moment.

  • @tomburns8441
    @tomburns8441 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the horses b.o scared the elephants

  • @yeetman21
    @yeetman21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 units of spartans can just hold to the bitter end, make sure you flank

  • @scotvince7847
    @scotvince7847 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As we commonly say here: thanks, romans.

  • @roadknight6980
    @roadknight6980 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a problem every time I try to paly total war rome 2 multiplayer siege battles it kicks me out when I start the siege battle does anyone know how to fix it?

  • @stevens8162
    @stevens8162 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Apollo are you going to play warhammer lll when it comes out?

  • @aryanrana5436
    @aryanrana5436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apollo I like Rome 2 siege battle

  • @Viper-tm9he
    @Viper-tm9he 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When there are enemies that are more powerful then you you make unlikely alliances

  • @danguhzone5130
    @danguhzone5130 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't care about the stuttering. At this point dude, I'm just always gonna watch your sieges.

  • @concretehippogaming
    @concretehippogaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Roman player needs to grow some braincells lol

  • @oqu9331
    @oqu9331 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's leggy be because you got a Trojan, I'll see myself out

  • @thenatural1278
    @thenatural1278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does every Roman player think they're invincible

  • @ethandunn6498
    @ethandunn6498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At Thermopylae, Leonidas had 300 Spartans, AND 8000 other local forces from neighbouring City States.

    • @madavarams268
      @madavarams268 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who left before the last stand. Only 700 thespians remained with the Spartans

  • @DaekaelTV
    @DaekaelTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    they used to cut the throat of bad horses, the dispensable ones

  • @gonuhi
    @gonuhi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apollo whats ur stream schecdudle? sorry about the spelling!

  • @maximumsdecimusceckhladze3173
    @maximumsdecimusceckhladze3173 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apollo lay of the weed man comon :d

  • @coltoncyr2283
    @coltoncyr2283 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heeeeey Macarenaaaaaa!

  • @_av8
    @_av8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hate the faction sparta cuz I just feel like holding doesn't really achieve much in the long run and they get next to no kills

  • @linoflaviodemagistris
    @linoflaviodemagistris 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone could help me ? When a start the campain my unit are smal and I would like to have the full unit , like 160 for Pretorian ect...

  • @hasselnttper3730
    @hasselnttper3730 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Elephants are very intelligent. They can see themselves in the mirror, and use the reflection to groom themselves. Not many animals can do that. They also have great emotional intelligence and memory.

  • @joshwatts7768
    @joshwatts7768 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What pc do you use? I’m looking to buy 1

  • @modernprosperity7798
    @modernprosperity7798 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rome did themselves zero favors this entire battle lol. From running into spears, to bum rushing like 6 units at a time only to be routed. No bueno sir, no bueno

  • @jollydeath87
    @jollydeath87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Apollo archers absolutely do lose the ammo when a unit dies.

  • @canadian__ninja
    @canadian__ninja 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It wouldn't surprise me that the bigger version of Athens in the daylight is more demanding on the hardware than other cities.

  • @ashwinmanoj8935
    @ashwinmanoj8935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are the wall arts banned on those matches?

  • @megaton199x
    @megaton199x 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, Apollo! Last year in August, I had some Medieval 2 LAN sparring. My opponent was much more experienced, so I'm hesitant to provide the replays. Even so, I'm planning on rematches this August! I hope to send you some nice replays then! Would you like the shoddy replays in the meantime?

  • @secutor7142
    @secutor7142 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah, you Apollogize ;)

  • @donut3733
    @donut3733 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone know what map that is? Trying to find it :D

  • @peenplays4219
    @peenplays4219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i got 2nd hand embarrassment from the roman player

  • @patriotsnetwork1228
    @patriotsnetwork1228 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Obi wan would b proud

  • @skarjj1
    @skarjj1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    is this an unmodded game or does it have a mod like radious?

  • @Stryder00o
    @Stryder00o 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zap Brannigan was playing Rome in some Rome 2 Multiplayer! :P

  • @nazarkirmani9639
    @nazarkirmani9639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I ask when will you upload on your second TH-cam channel please I want to see assassins creed odyssey