Both sides knew their advantages and disadvantages. That's why Spartans always tried to catch the Athenians off guard before they hop into their ships. And it is also known that when the people of Athens went to the oracle to get advice they were said to never abandon the wooden walls that protected Athens, meaning the wooden ships. And the Athenian general Periklis always said "We will defend in land and attack at sea". Proud to be Greek from Macedon. We came to play a little later. But that's also the problem with us folks till today. We cannot just stick together. If only the Greek states combined strength and never let loose...
arsenios ch If the Greeks combined, it would have been a pretty neat combination of skillets and overall tactics that may have lead to a later even more unified and powerful Rome as it’s successor.
Honestly I would love to see a Sparta vs Athens tournament. Athens could show off its versatility and Sparta could show how it deals with Athenian variety with their hoplites; it’d be lit lol
Finn Bailey Finn Bailey Finn Bailey what's your argument for that? They were actually one of the smallest (and arguably the weakest) military forces in Greece, with their army numbering only a thousand, and that was at its peak. The only reason they're famous and heard of today is because they stood at thyrmopalye against the Persians, as a last stand to cover the retreat of the majority of the Greek coalition's forces. And you know that whole 300 spartans vs 1 million Persians is a lie, right? Firstly, the spartans weren't the only ones there, holding the Persians back-- no, initially there was around 10,000 Greeks at that pass(only 300 of which were spartans), but since defeat was assured; Athens, and some other minor Greek states fell back to engage in guerrilla warfare later on. The spartans and a bunch of thespians, helots and thebians (numbering a total of around 2000) held their ground to cover the retreat of everyone else. So to sum it up: it's a myth that 300 spartans stood alone against 1 million Persians. And Sparta only had 300 fucking soldiers at that pass-- now compared to the total number of the Greek forces, they are (were) considered a MINOR nation. Very minor. Athens and Thespians made up the majority. Another thing to note: the Greeks would have lost the war if it were not for the Athenians. Their large navy and army was the only thing that stopped the Persians. I mean c'mon now; they became the leader of the coalition for a reason...
@@imperatorcaesaraugustuspri5319 I know, I'm just more familiar with the places near those, and also places like Thebes and the like, but I know Greece is large 😅
When everyone has historical reasons for loving Sparta, but you love them because you associate them with John 117 amd the Spartans from the Halo Universe 🎃
Hey Apollo another classic rivalry that never appeared on your channel: Rome against the Parthians ... it would be fantastic. Another idea: a 4v4 battle with all cheap troops!!!
Put the army in the face of death where there is no possible escape and they will not flee,they will not be afraid. Put them on death ground and there is nothing they cannot achieve-Sun Tzu The Spartans put this to good use at Thermopylae and Platea and so did those Thorax swordsmen
This is why I had such high hope for Total War : Arena, its hard to micro manage 20 units, ships, cav, inf, range, artillery etc. It would be so cool to have a 10v10 where each player had 3-4 units or a specific role, but in traditional Total war gameplay
32:37 I think those swordsmen could hold for that much time because they were fresh, they haven't been in combat, not like mostly all of the Spartans they faced.
A big part of the reason why Athens was so Superior in Naval Combat was because they control the main port and a lot of times they would tax the Spartans and their friends so if you are getting tax then that means that you were losing money and money for sparta wasn't really there thing, they didn't trade too much
@@thejackman687 well when Phillip of Macedon concord a majority of Greece he sent a letter to a Spartan Kings saying thet first pharagraf I wrote up there (maybe not exactly like thet because I wrote thet from my memory I didn't really look it up). Spartans answerd whith only one word "if". Neither Phillip or his son Alexander concord Sparta. But they concerd rest of city states.
Sparta had faded in relevance. Enslaving most of their population has its consequences. Also says a lot that Alexander the great didnt bother with sparta depsite destroying the persian empire, wasnt worth the time.
+So what do we do against these Athenians? -Poklites! +What? -Poklites! You take some Hoplites, you take some Pikemen, you put them together, you get Poklites! +Someone get this freak out of here please.
24:00 Hear that Javelin “Machine Gun” fire and again shortly after? Didn’t know the Athenians invented the “Javelin Gun.” Get it? Like a Gatling Gun but a “Javelin Gun”? Wow. I’m so funny. My names BeeStrell and I’ll be here all night with granola. Why thank you. Thank you... *applause*
Factually, the most popular Total War TH-camrs are not necessarily the best ones. However, I personally would LOVE to see a Total War TH-camr's Total War Rome 2 Tournament. No matter the layout I think it would be great to see Pixie, Legend, Heir of Carthage, Jackie Fish, Alex the Rambler, Republic of Play, OfficiallyDevin, and any others I may have forgotten, compete in a Rome 2 tourney. Field battle or siege, single knockout or best of 3 I think that it would make for an absolutely LEGENDARY Total War tournament. One of the best things about all of these Total War TH-camrs, in addition to their skills' is their fantastic commentary. Please make it happen, and if you don't...... please know that I will still love you all nonetheless.
14:14 "The flank is opening up"-- it also is opening up to you as well, when you rotate units especially pikemen in a flank, the pikes then create a vulnerability on the enemies side of the line. If implemented right it could backfire.
TeammateNATE yeah see to me that would have been cool. I haven’t played war hammer or anything, but I’ve seen how they have hybrid archer/spear units. Sparta should have had a hybrid heavy melee/heavy spear unit. So they could swap between sword and spear. Would have been legendary and probably very OP
I personally am a fan of Sparta but it has nothing to do with 300. I just love the fact that the Spartan army is so disciplined. Athens is cool to though. I love Ancient Greek and Macedonian history in general.
For the pocket, their general told them to hold the line till their death... And they accepted😭refusing to give up👍 (even against all your soldiers and trash talking)
I have all these games but I dont play them, however, as I read History, I come for recreations of real battles and get a graphical sense of what it was like. I love the fact these games made that opportunity for us History lovers!
You're disgusting, To Hades with spartans. Athenians suffered the invasion of Persia, and Sparta didn't wanna help them take back their colonies in Persia after the sacking of Athens 480. So why are you cheering for Sparta? Sure, they helped Athens win the war over Persia, but that's something I wouldn't say, before knowing the whole story.
@@taxiarchiskalyvas8198 Without Sparta state? Persia would've demolished them too. There wouldn't even be a Sparta, what choice did they have? It was either move to Korinth or leave Lakonia.
Really cool battle. Make this a Peloponnesian War series!!! Because it would be awesome to see Sparta defend against Athens instead of attack, since defense is what Spartans are made for.
Although I’m sure you know this, but yes Sparta has a good military but their true strength was propaganda. That is clearly evident because the stories we still tell of them today and how exaggerated they are yet still believed.
After Sparta won and expanded their land they couldn't keep it on the long run because they kept their tradition of only the best are to become warriors, the problem with that was that they had more land and less warriors to defend it and when people realized that they revolt
I think the reason to the one athenian unit which was surrounded didnt die quickly was because almost all of your units which was surrounding the athenians didnt break them because they were exhausted! And the athenians were fresh
In Rome 1 there actually as a game mechanic by which a unit, if completely surrounded would sometimes fight to the death rather than break, so it was a good idea to leave at least a little gap for them through which to run away (you could still mop them up _after_ they broke).
Sorry I usually go for the technology based factions but Athens was trying to create a mini empire to which Sparta created the Peloponnesian league (which was a defensive treaty) and Athens later on in the war decided to hold spartan prisoners for ransom because Sparta was besieging Athens, to which the Spartans left, but then Athens went and pulled the war crime of killing all the prisoners and Sparta couldn’t besiege the settlement for a few years after this because they already organized the withdraw. (So in other words they did it just to elongate the conflict). In the end Sparta and her allies besieged Athens again and she had to concede this time to which many of the other city states wanted athens to burn to the ground, but the spartan king said it was not the people’s fault but the leaderships. So I’m all Sparta in any battle where the two are going after each other, and yes all of them had slaves back then that sadly was the norm.
Funny story about the peloponnesian war that probably no one asked for. It was actually spartan navy that caused the athenian destruction in the battle of lamsakos. Plus that the spartans won the battle without losing a single ship
A funny thing in history is when the persian empire sent a letter that Said that IF they took Sparta they would not spare anyone and kill the women and children too, and the letter the spartans sent back Said only 1 word: if
I'm surprised no one on the Spartan side tried to go on the far left flank along the coast line once the Athenians fell back to their last stand position. It's narrow but they wouldn't have had a line of site to see anything coming. If you get a couple of units round there you're in their rear and can flank any of their defence points at your leasure. It's a trick I use all the time on this map.
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"Archers are key in this battle. (Which is why I sacrificed most of them after 5 minutes)." - P.A., 2020
Ha
Lmao chocked in my coffee
(Apollo joins the battlefield!)
Also Apollo: so this is where i do a costly mistake.
"Archers coming all over the place" - Apollo 2020
😂
What a mess
@@jaidengabriel1675 what are you shooting at step bro
That’s kinda ghey bro
😂😂😂 they coming alright
Athenians: Our navy Is unstoppable
Spartans: We about to end their whole career
More like we gonna conqeur you ending that career
Athenians: our navy is unstoppable.
CA: we about to end their whole career
Thanh Tran quite accurate for real life, Athens had a large navy but a Sparta conquered the land and was able to build a better one
Funny joke
@@rhyono020_5 Well, not so much build a better one as much as borrow one from the Persians
Red vs Blue
Land vs Water
Athens vs Sparta
Rome vs Carthage
The best rivalries of history.
Benito Mussolini what about Rome vs Gaul? Because Gods! I hate Gauls!
America vs Russia
England vs France
Knight vs samiri vs Viking
@@aceshotz5051 im from Gaul 🥲
Both sides knew their advantages and disadvantages. That's why Spartans always tried to catch the Athenians off guard before they hop into their ships. And it is also known that when the people of Athens went to the oracle to get advice they were said to never abandon the wooden walls that protected Athens, meaning the wooden ships. And the Athenian general Periklis always said "We will defend in land and attack at sea". Proud to be Greek from Macedon. We came to play a little later. But that's also the problem with us folks till today. We cannot just stick together. If only the Greek states combined strength and never let loose...
Ise ellinas?
Take Back Constantinople 🇬🇷
That should have be done after the persian wars rome macedon and persia would never have be able to take them over
arsenios ch
If the Greeks combined, it would have been a pretty neat combination of skillets and overall tactics that may have lead to a later even more unified and powerful Rome as it’s successor.
@@delanovanraalte3186 Rome was greedy they would probably, remember I said probably postpone the inevitable.
We need another siege tournament Pixie
Maybe a Third Age/Medieval 2 or a Attila/ 1212 AD tournament? Just to mix things up.
“Throw your soldiers into positions whence there is no escape, and they will prefer death to flight." Sun Tzu The art of war
Sunzi, The Art of War
Price of a mile intensifies
Honestly I would love to see a Sparta vs Athens tournament. Athens could show off its versatility and Sparta could show how it deals with Athenian variety with their hoplites; it’d be lit lol
Sparta won that war a tournament would be useles as histicly they were better at warfare its their specialty
Delano Van raalte
True, but Athens often had its effective methods, or so I’ve heard.
No mercenaries though
No mercs to be used
Finn Bailey Finn Bailey Finn Bailey what's your argument for that?
They were actually one of the smallest (and arguably the weakest) military forces in Greece, with their army numbering only a thousand, and that was at its peak.
The only reason they're famous and heard of today is because they stood at thyrmopalye against the Persians, as a last stand to cover the retreat of the majority of the Greek coalition's forces. And you know that whole 300 spartans vs 1 million Persians is a lie, right? Firstly, the spartans weren't the only ones there, holding the Persians back-- no, initially there was around 10,000 Greeks at that pass(only 300 of which were spartans), but since defeat was assured; Athens, and some other minor Greek states fell back to engage in guerrilla warfare later on. The spartans and a bunch of thespians, helots and thebians (numbering a total of around 2000) held their ground to cover the retreat of everyone else.
So to sum it up: it's a myth that 300 spartans stood alone against 1 million Persians. And Sparta only had 300 fucking soldiers at that pass-- now compared to the total number of the Greek forces, they are (were) considered a MINOR nation. Very minor. Athens and Thespians made up the majority.
Another thing to note: the Greeks would have lost the war if it were not for the Athenians. Their large navy and army was the only thing that stopped the Persians. I mean c'mon now; they became the leader of the coalition for a reason...
“Spartans want to be surrounded”
*Thermopylae flashbacks*
Yes
archers:*exist*
Apollo: so you have chosen death
My grandparents moved to the U.S. from Sparta so...my loyalties in this battle are sealed. Nice work as always man!
''They are hitting me with artillery. That's ok'' *meanwhile, five spartans burn alive*
I'm actually Greek and I love when Apollo talks about my countrys' History! :D
Lolzyy
Were you born near where Athens or Sparta used to be?
@@thalmoragent9344 I'm actually from Crete , just like the unit the "Mercenary Cretan Archers"
@@thalmoragent9344 Greece is much bigger than that ._.
@@imperatorcaesaraugustuspri5319
I know, I'm just more familiar with the places near those, and also places like Thebes and the like, but I know Greece is large 😅
When everyone has historical reasons for loving Sparta, but you love them because you associate them with John 117 amd the Spartans from the Halo Universe 🎃
@Caleb Knoll battle of 100 dont you mean 300?
@Caleb Knoll its 300
@Caleb Knoll but true, 300 was awesome
I'm simply fascinated by warrior societies. Unfortunately for Sparta, their attempt to build utopia ultimately resulted in their downfall.
@@coyotejohn3101 Utopia? Sparta was a particularly ruthless bunch of slavers.
Hey Apollo another classic rivalry that never appeared on your channel: Rome against the Parthians ... it would be fantastic. Another idea: a 4v4 battle with all cheap troops!!!
Or Macedon vs literally everyone to the east
@@Callsign_Prophet ahaahahah yes
Alberto Sosso those are some good ideas I hope they happen
Spartans when they see arrows flying at them: *"We fight in the shade"*
Our arrows shall blot out the sun
@@Yeeeter all the better we'll fight in the shade
Put the army in the face of death where there is no possible escape and they will not flee,they will not be afraid.
Put them on death ground and there is nothing they cannot achieve-Sun Tzu
The Spartans put this to good use at Thermopylae and Platea and so did those Thorax swordsmen
Spartans talking to Athens: YOU SUCK
Athen:😮
You're really, really good at talking up a battle that you know you eventually lose. I was almost convinced at one point.
My mans as much as I love watching you, you should be like a god at this game by now lol
I would love these type of videos more - the real enemies against eachother (In this case Athens/Sparta)
I'd definetly watch
"Grab your snacks and drinks..."
Me have no snaky me angy REEEEEEEEEEE
*doing homework*
me-"Oh a new Pixelated Apollo video is up"
*click*
THIS IS SPARTA
29:22
“IT’S EVERYWHERE!!! IT’S ON THE WALL, ON THE CEILING, ON ALL THE TOWELS!!! Wait... HOW’S IT ON THE CEILING?!?! AGHHHH!!!!”
This is why I had such high hope for Total War : Arena, its hard to micro manage 20 units, ships, cav, inf, range, artillery etc. It would be so cool to have a 10v10 where each player had 3-4 units or a specific role, but in traditional Total war gameplay
PA u are the best TH-cam ever
Edit: when can u do more third age total war?
You need to do a battle with the spartan anthology mod it adds awesome units for Sparta as well as reskins many units
Apollo: “And this is a fight we are going to win”
The result at the end: “Valiant Defeat”
😂
Apollo: gotta be careful of firing on your own troops there.
*Apollo regularly risks shooting his own troops with archers and occasionally artillery*
32:37 I think those swordsmen could hold for that much time because they were fresh, they haven't been in combat, not like mostly all of the Spartans they faced.
SPARTANS WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION!!!
I guess "Ahoo, ahoo, ahoo!" is a profession....
War
"Ahou" is how you say it.
Glory!!!!!!
Chronically Unemployed.
A big part of the reason why Athens was so Superior in Naval Combat was because they control the main port and a lot of times they would tax the Spartans and their friends so if you are getting tax then that means that you were losing money and money for sparta wasn't really there thing, they didn't trade too much
An amazing battle great tactics from you Apollo, and doing great with hoplites vs a heavy sword faction, GREAT BATTLE KEEP IT UP!!!
Yes Apollo keeep it up
It's really good to see you back on TH-cam we have missed you
If I attack u right now I would win and destroy Sparta, ur city wouldn't rise ever again.
Sparta: "if"
MilosO what happened though
@@thejackman687 well when Phillip of Macedon concord a majority of Greece he sent a letter to a Spartan Kings saying thet first pharagraf I wrote up there (maybe not exactly like thet because I wrote thet from my memory I didn't really look it up). Spartans answerd whith only one word "if". Neither Phillip or his son Alexander concord Sparta. But they concerd rest of city states.
MilosO nc English
@@LiewLmao well sorry
Sparta had faded in relevance. Enslaving most of their population has its consequences. Also says a lot that Alexander the great didnt bother with sparta depsite destroying the persian empire, wasnt worth the time.
Freaking epic! Hate to see Greeks fighting Greeks but still, a classic Hellenic Age battle.
That's the best thing i could possibly watch... 🤙
Go ATHENS 💪 (as an Athenian)
+So what do we do against these Athenians?
-Poklites!
+What?
-Poklites! You take some Hoplites, you take some Pikemen, you put them together, you get Poklites!
+Someone get this freak out of here please.
As an Athenian I am with Athens!
Super!
As the son of an Athenian, I am with Sparta!
Athens will fall by your so called diplomacy or by our spears
Glória to Athens !
Athens suck should be shamed
53:58 when you are fighting, but still have to buy milk before the store close
24:00
Hear that Javelin “Machine Gun” fire and again shortly after? Didn’t know the Athenians invented the “Javelin Gun.”
Get it? Like a Gatling Gun but a “Javelin Gun”? Wow. I’m so funny.
My names BeeStrell and I’ll be here all night with granola. Why thank you. Thank you... *applause*
Factually, the most popular Total War TH-camrs are not necessarily the best ones. However, I personally would LOVE to see a Total War TH-camr's Total War Rome 2 Tournament. No matter the layout I think it would be great to see Pixie, Legend, Heir of Carthage, Jackie Fish, Alex the Rambler, Republic of Play, OfficiallyDevin, and any others I may have forgotten, compete in a Rome 2 tourney. Field battle or siege, single knockout or best of 3 I think that it would make for an absolutely LEGENDARY Total War tournament. One of the best things about all of these Total War TH-camrs, in addition to their skills' is their fantastic commentary. Please make it happen, and if you don't...... please know that I will still love you all nonetheless.
Rome vs. Sparta/Athens
I wanna see that battle soo bad. Doesn't matter if its siege or open field i just wanna see the battle.
#NBBC
14:14 "The flank is opening up"-- it also is opening up to you as well, when you rotate units especially pikemen in a flank, the pikes then create a vulnerability on the enemies side of the line. If implemented right it could backfire.
Sparta needs a sword unit. Literally one sword unit would make them a good offensive faction.
Baby Yoda right you are
Depends on how much you daily eat
They should have one they were very effective in sword combat💯
Divide et Impera solves that issue; there are no weak factions in DeI. There are strong factions and stronger factions.
TeammateNATE yeah see to me that would have been cool. I haven’t played war hammer or anything, but I’ve seen how they have hybrid archer/spear units. Sparta should have had a hybrid heavy melee/heavy spear unit. So they could swap between sword and spear. Would have been legendary and probably very OP
I personally am a fan of Sparta but it has nothing to do with 300. I just love the fact that the Spartan army is so disciplined. Athens is cool to though. I love Ancient Greek and Macedonian history in general.
For the pocket, their general told them to hold the line till their death... And they accepted😭refusing to give up👍 (even against all your soldiers and trash talking)
I love this game so much and your videos!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Me to
Sparta may have the military but In the end Athens has the Greek capital
Apollo: Glorious!
Me: GLORIOUS!!!!!
"unfortified settlement, which means there's no walls"
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes
Fortifications (at least in the real world) do not necessarily imply walls.
@@antred11 thanks to your reply i saw my typo in the comment, thank you.
But yes it was a joke about the game :D
@@restitvt0r1 LOL, glad to be of service. :D
Apollo, I honestly can't believe you haven't hit a million subscribers. Your videos are AMAZING keep up the great work
Athens mainly due to their navy and decent army
I have all these games but I dont play them, however, as I read History, I come for recreations of real battles and get a graphical sense of what it was like. I love the fact these games made that opportunity for us History lovers!
Can you pls do a Rome vs Carthage battle. This likes me really intresting.
(Sorry for bad English I don't speak English)
Watching this battles is more fun than watching a game of the NBA...This channel kick ass!
To Hades with the Athenian empire they call a "league!"
TEAM SPARTA!!!
You're disgusting, To Hades with spartans. Athenians suffered the invasion of Persia, and Sparta didn't wanna help them take back their colonies in Persia after the sacking of Athens 480. So why are you cheering for Sparta? Sure, they helped Athens win the war over Persia, but that's something I wouldn't say, before knowing the whole story.
@@MelonPython believe me without Sparta city states had no chance
@@MelonPython you're calling someone disgusting over the side they're taking in video game? Dude, it was roleplay.
@@panzerpriest9220 Picking a side, without knowing the whole story yes, It's like picking Germany in WW2 without knowing what they did.
@@taxiarchiskalyvas8198 Without Sparta state? Persia would've demolished them too. There wouldn't even be a Sparta, what choice did they have? It was either move to Korinth or leave Lakonia.
I started watching your warhammer vids and I loved your battles and these siege battles are epic
This should be sexy
Edit: I am with Athens
Beautiful!! MAKE MORE OF THESE!!
Well, i'm with Athens with all my heart, but Sparta, they're more likely to win....
Pixelated Apollo never disappoint!
Sparta all the way, as you can see it's in my profile picture
No.
Really cool battle. Make this a Peloponnesian War series!!! Because it would be awesome to see Sparta defend against Athens instead of attack, since defense is what Spartans are made for.
You forgot the voting ^^
Ive actually never heard of athians until I watched u pixelated apollo
Although I’m sure you know this, but yes Sparta has a good military but their true strength was propaganda. That is clearly evident because the stories we still tell of them today and how exaggerated they are yet still believed.
Spartans all the way baby!! Love it pixie. Havent kept up with ur vids in awhile.im sorry! But as always I love it!
"I fight all my battles in 60fps"sun zu
Awesome battle! Love the gimmick/scenario type of clashes!
For your next weird army composition you should do cavalary only except you cant be Parthia.
Rome 2 Is one of My all time favs!!! Great Battle!!! GO SPARTA!!!
We ❤️ You Pixelated Apollo!!!
After Sparta won and expanded their land they couldn't keep it on the long run because they kept their tradition of only the best are to become warriors, the problem with that was that they had more land and less warriors to defend it and when people realized that they revolt
FOR SPARTA ➕ my favorite TH-camr keep up the good work
That thumbnail is absolutely gorgeous
I love these open city battles
I think the reason to the one athenian unit which was surrounded didnt die quickly was because almost all of your units which was surrounding the athenians didnt break them because they were exhausted!
And the athenians were fresh
In Rome 1 there actually as a game mechanic by which a unit, if completely surrounded would sometimes fight to the death rather than break, so it was a good idea to leave at least a little gap for them through which to run away (you could still mop them up _after_ they broke).
Apollo:loves athens but goes with sparta
(Apollo: *sends archers to fight archers* (Me an intellectual: *Sends in a phalanx to take down archers, and it somehow works*
love your vids Apollo
keep the hard work up
Pixelated Apollo
YOU ARE WRONG! The best rivalry in history is Ino and Sakura 🤣🤣🤣 LOL
Sorry I usually go for the technology based factions but Athens was trying to create a mini empire to which Sparta created the Peloponnesian league (which was a defensive treaty) and Athens later on in the war decided to hold spartan prisoners for ransom because Sparta was besieging Athens, to which the Spartans left, but then Athens went and pulled the war crime of killing all the prisoners and Sparta couldn’t besiege the settlement for a few years after this because they already organized the withdraw. (So in other words they did it just to elongate the conflict). In the end Sparta and her allies besieged Athens again and she had to concede this time to which many of the other city states wanted athens to burn to the ground, but the spartan king said it was not the people’s fault but the leaderships. So I’m all Sparta in any battle where the two are going after each other, and yes all of them had slaves back then that sadly was the norm.
LOVED this playthrough
Funny story about the peloponnesian war that probably no one asked for. It was actually spartan navy that caused the athenian destruction in the battle of lamsakos. Plus that the spartans won the battle without losing a single ship
Just the kind of Athens vs Sparta fight I like to see
Un-walled siege battles are always brilliant, I'd argue the best form of Rome II battle.
Popcorn and water ready for some juicy rome 2 battles
Celery, hummus and orange juice at the ready
00:23 OBVIOUSLY WITH THE SPARTA
29:22 This saying made me subscribe.
edit: also the battle was cool
A funny thing in history is when the persian empire sent a letter that Said that IF they took Sparta they would not spare anyone and kill the women and children too, and the letter the spartans sent back Said only 1 word: if
Challenge for you: choose a low tier unit like club levy but don't choose club levy and spam it
I'm surprised no one on the Spartan side tried to go on the far left flank along the coast line once the Athenians fell back to their last stand position. It's narrow but they wouldn't have had a line of site to see anything coming. If you get a couple of units round there you're in their rear and can flank any of their defence points at your leasure.
It's a trick I use all the time on this map.
This is epic man 🤩
Once team Athens, always team Athens
"THIS IS SPARTA" Leonidas, from the movie 300
*Sparta Versus Athens?* Gosh dang it _Ares and Athena,_ what did your father Zues tell you two about fighting each other?
Apollo, my answer to your question at the beginning is: I stand with Sparta.