Blinks, Pings & Dings ft. Niv Mizzet, Brallin & Shabraz, Roon & Queza | Elder Dragon Hijinks #34
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- Elder Dragon Hijinks is all about casual commander with awesome individuals! This week, Eilidh & Olivia get into a pinging blink fight with Taalia Vess & HeadologyMagic!
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Just as a reminder for the flicker on the end step once it's on the end step you cannot Target the same card all the triggers go on the stack at once and targeting all at once. So for an example if you target Charming prints with Thassa you can Target with teleportation Circle but it won't see the original Charming prints because it's no longer there just for future games
Did you spell “prince” the noun as “prints” the verb? I haven’t watched the episode yet so there could be a funnier card that I am unaware of.
Definitely feels like we need to have a CGB/Talia week, where they both bring obnoxious counterspelly blue decks and the home team packs a bunch of blue hosers into their decks
Or better yet, have CGB and Talia make decks for Olivia and Eilidh and vice versa. That would be amazing. Watch CGB play Mono Red Aggro and Eilidh play oops, no creatures lmaooo
when taalia had the niv, the prodigy and the ageless insight on the field she would have drawn 4 cards and could have pinged 8 times for every instant/sorcery cast.
-niv triggers to draw a card
-trigger gets copied by prodigy
-draws get doubled by insight
--> 1*2*2=4
-4 cards are drawn
-niv triggers 4 seperate times
-each trigger gets copied
Omg yesss! Thank you
I had to check my collection too see if my Roon deck had been stolen. It had not! And yet here it is, on the screen!
I haven't even gotten to the end but I love all of these commanders. Card draw, card draw, card draw, and blink! What's not to love?
Headology went from chill to absolute menace is no time at all. That whole game looked like fun.
Stoked to see Headology back. YOU LOVE TO SEE IT!
Headology don't feel guilty about your deck doing its thing! It was awesome to see.
Now I will have the spectral sailor song in my head forever
niw + harmonic + teferis ageless leads to : 1 instant/sorcery : 4 draw 8 damage (niv got 2 draw triggers thanks to prodigy, each draw trigger draw 2 thanks to tef ageless, so 4 ) each draw triggers niv ping 2 times thanks to harmonic, again.
Harmonic is the best ally of niv, by far. Meant to be partners :D and if the instant/sorc is making you draw its even more.
Harmonic Prodigy is also very fun in an Inalla deck with all of those wizards. Easily my favorite tribe. It gets pretty complicated at times.
Parallax Wave isn't sacrificed when the last counter is removed. It's sacrificed at your upkeep if you are unable to remove a counter. 😉
I have been seeing this more and more, where people think Fading = Vanishing. The Blastoderms dying early in one of the Professor's vids is another example.
But, as long as everyone is on the same page in the game it doesn't matter.
About the niv mizzet triggers. Teferis enchantment says if you draw a card draw 2 intead, with niv triggers doubled from the shaman. Meaning when an instant/sorcery is cast niv triggers 2 times making it draw 2 card that with teferi ench. Makes it 4 cards, niv sees that and the trigger is doubled again meaning niv has 8 pings. Had a niv deck broke it down because of this math chaos. :)
In case you forgot the equation it is: (Z->) - (E-N²W)t = 1 I did exclude the 90 degrees, but if you know it's there then you know it's there.
I was also thinking this
@@Tae_Grixis my brain that’s fake math math doesn’t have Letters
Point of order: Soulherder, Thasa, Teleportation circle, these all trigger at the start of your End Step, which means you should not be able to flicker the same target more than once as after the first trigger resolves, the following triggers lose their target.
It was a trigger heavy match, so naturally something got played wrong.
Niv-mizzet parun was my first commander deck so I’m always glad to see the old boy piloted well. Awesome episode ladies!!
'Niv-Mizzet, Lizard Wizard' is how you say it correctly. Love mine too!
The shark also gives life if you draw cards soo that would have changed the outcome by a little.
But i have to say that was a trigger heavy match
Yeah that match was a mess of triggers. I run some pretty trigger heavy decks too so I know those feels
One thing to note, I believe Olivia's Shark would return to her side of the field, not the command zone. When Headology dies, her effects end first, so the gain control disappears and it returns to her (Olivia's) side of the field. If Headology had used some effect like casting the Shark, then it would get exiled/sent back to the command zone :) One of those weird interactions I didn't know the difference about (when an opponent dies), until I faced someone with a steal deck
Ding from the future! Love your guys content in the background when i game, banter is always top notch.
Love these, especially with miss Vess. Good times.
Ooof...if poor Headology could gotten a grasp on all her triggers, she definitely would have lived a lot longer.
Ah I love to see izzet decks pop off and that blink deck has frankly inspired me. Good game 👑
I feel like Taalia was very nice with her Niv draw/damage triggers in the early game, sending them to face rather than sniping out all the small creatures on board. The game would have been very different and all the flicker value would have never happened
was it really nice?
The deck was pretty hard build the way to do what we saw at this game.
She had tutors to get the lotus early and more to enable an early mizzed.
I think more that deck was in the wrong pod.
Fun fact about fading, it wouldn't have really affected the game, but the sacrifice is an upkeep trigger. So you can have a fading card with no fading counters on it for a turn cycle, it doesn't go away until the fading goes on the stack on your upkeep.
Queza is such a fun and simple commander, might be my first esper deck!
Great episoded as always!
As someone whose first ever Commander Deck was Niv-Mizzet, Parun, I feel the struggle of trying to remember all the triggers and the huuuuuuge honkin' stacks with all the instant interaction.
Then again, it is a really great deck to train yourself to remember triggers and resolve the stack correctly.
I actually used Tokens to represent effects on the stack because it would just get far too complicated to remember :'D
Haha I love it. I've been playing the deck a lot more the past few weeks and really got it down now. So fun!
Agent of Treachery stole all those commanders and at least the remembered the Niv triggers, but the shark is also getting bigger and there are hidden blockers in a pinch.
Another fun game and a fun ladies night all around 😊. I hope Olivia has now learned how to reset her life back to 40 😁 So how many games are played before the record button is hit? Congrats to the winner 👏
I have a cycling deck with a Shrine sub-theme. Sliver Queen is the Commander… because Queen…Freddie Mercury wants to ride his BIIIICYCLE! BIIIICYCLE! And who doesn’t have a shrine to Freddie?
This whole video was a massive day brightener for me I laughed far to much thanks
Taalia: Time Spiral
Olivia: Let's GO!
Oh how I love you girls! Whadda game. Such Magic, much Math... Watch your stuff the moment it comes out, so tonight finally decided to pay up for the sub, and I think I'm finally gonna head over to that Patreon club like thing you mention soon. I'm stuck where I can't play Magic much with folks right now, and I find solace in your delightful games. Thanks for all your hard work and the wholesome entertainment! : D
My friends just got me into magic this year and my favorite deck is Ranar, 39:30 is what I feel like all the time lol. Loving this content 😄
Tiny nuance with parallax wave is that fading forces you to sac it on your upkeep if there are no counters on it after you attempt to remove one, not when the last counter is removed in the previous end step. Really fun card that I haven’t gotten to play just yet
litterally THE ENTIRE TABLE is runnin blue... my tiny heart can't take the constant threat of counters lol
I love the positive energy, and that you're cheering on eachother!
Insane episode! I loved all the crazy interactions 😂
Have you guys considered getting another person to just be there as like a moderator? Someone that deeply understands priority, the stack, triggers and interactions? Let's be real: Magic is a complex game, and keeping everything running smoothly during these dumb shenanigans is difficult 😂If this was a possibility, it would greatly reduce the amount of missed triggers and misunderstood interactions, and I feel that it would also alleviate a lot of the extra thinking pressure from y'all, so that you can focus on your decisions and enjoyment more.
What do you think?
Half of the fun _is_ the silly stuff. These aren't competitive games. Having a moderator/judge/outside observer/rules lawyer would take away the spontaneity, the naturalness, the good vibe feel and some of the hijinks. Let's face it, we're all here for hijinks. It's fun, it's silly and goofy and it is as Olivia says: "casual, ridiculous Commander."
Something like that works for more serious Commander channels but in my opinion,it wouldn't work here and I don't feel that it is needed. Long live Hijinks, I say! 🙂
he sure is right, hijinks it the mood here, plus, if you add someone who has to basically folow triggers and check gamestate constantly, you will think less, maybe to the point you don't even realise what you can trigger with a spell in your hand.
I feel like board wipes (especially cyc rift) are there to help you win, as are most cards in your deck, and that they are most effective towards the mid/end of a game to stop someone else from winning. Drawing them and not playing them due to a rule seems like the victory isn't real when you should be trying to win, regardless of how long the game will go for. I for one enjoy seeing longer games which end up showing more plays and more complexity
As a life long izzet and specifically niv mizzet player. I did get hurt a few times from the triggers being wonky. But it was still fun to see niv played a bit :D
They complain about her taking the shark, but she never used it. She was supposed to gain life on every draw, and she had a lot ( with her also having niv and trailblazer. ) she would also have a massive flying threat because the shark also gets counters when she draws.
Headology was just too nice. Having skyshark and Niv and a million triggers and not just tearing everybody apart to keep the game going... Get vicious! Own it! Pop off, queen!
Y’all are a blast to watch play. Love the skull mat btw.
My two paper commander desks which I'm currently binging out are Jeskai Spells and Yorion Blink so I am totally here for the decks (and am totally grabbing some extra cards from the decklists)
Great game! Nice seeing people playing blue. 😜
Worth noting when headology died, Olivia would get the shark back in play, as it changed control so the control effect ends and is returned under Olivia's control.
If headology had cast it or it came into play under their control instead then it would have been exiled.
"build it yourself board wipe" comment by AliasV was absolutely the best
A great example of why computers are needed to keep track of all the triggers.
I love this series I love this channel I'm so glad it exists I love that you guys will play things that might have a little bit of power but you're not getting all preachy about it.
We all know agent of treachery sucks but when it took niv it was just like well that happened let's keep playing.
More groups need to acknowledge the existence of powerful cards and absolutely learn how to play around them.
Solid video. There's a reason you're always the first one I look for on release.
Another cracking game with some awesome decks and awesomerer guests. Also love the draftchaff deck. Thanks for the excellent content as always peoples! X
QUEZA! She's so much fun! definitely needs a copy of Lich's Mastery in the list. Drawing your whole deck off of a single lifegain trigger is hilarious.
Classic Roon deck being a menace with Agent of Treachery, it always gets a groan from me. Still a fun group to watch.
This is why I look forward to Thursdays.
So many triggers! More triggers than a gun factory.
It's official, I'm becoming a Patreon supporter. I need more of these videos in my life. Thanks for the great content!!
Woo! Thank you Travis!
Ohhhh the only new capenna pack I opened I got a gilded Queza and am working on a deck for her right now. This will be fun to see what you did. Typing on turn 1. 😆
That Teferi's Ageless Insight was looking pretty lonely when those draws came up for a while.
The shark whenever you draw… you gain one life and put a counter on it
Headology was fun to watch in action. Great game of EDH
17:50 Olivia forgot what one blue can do swan song 😏
"she casted smothering tithe on turn 3 :0!!!"
- Niv player casting her commander also turn 3
I mean, when I do it I become the archenemy for the next 3 months...
queza has been my favourite deck lately.. forced fruition/consecrated sphinx stuff like that
Thalia is CovertGoThalia, with his blue counterspells
This was fun to watch :)
This is why I only play go tall and go wide deck.... So many triggers it blows my mind 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Seems to have forgotten that shabraz gains life on cards drawn
And bralin pings on discard
(Can essentially go infinite with curiosity)
And won by the discard in itself it was enough to kill them
Looking forward to seeing how the Queza deck fares.:D
I actually agree with the fierce here, feel like the not scary part about smothering tithe is it isnt card draw. but in the card draw deck... a lot of extra mana could be bad, and against niv and sharkboy and sharky.
"Terrible intro" you mean BEST INTRO.
Blinky Potter and the neverending turns
Imagine if Taalia had Purphoros/Inpact Tremors out or a Goblin Bombardment.. guess that would have added more chaos to her board
Such madness, so...many...triggers!
40:00 or so, the Recruiter was still in exile from the Charming Prince when the Soul Herder trigger was going on the stack, so it couldn't have been blinked that turn by the Soul Herder or Thassa.
I've also got a blink deck and yeah, all the triggers can get confusing, so it's an easy mistake to make.
At 53:00 Headology blinks the Charming Prince with both the Teleportation Circle and Soul Herder, this shouldn't work because all the triggers go on the stack at the same time and the second one to resolve will lose track of its target when the first one resolves.
1:01 Headology is actually correct here, Olivia should have gotten Shabraz back. It entered under her control and was being affected by a continuous effect that ended with Ari's death, so it should revert to it's previous controller.
Unless I missed it getting blinked by Thassa at some point?
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Brain hurt with all the triggers, still fun watch
Took last week off due to mental health but I'm back so HIT THE THINGS THAT MAKE THE DINGS
Hope you're doing better, friend!
Loved how she showed mercy the whole game and they still shit on her lol never be kind at the table
What a hoot. So many triggers.
Headology playing like she wants to be invited back
Crazy how at the end of the game each instant cast should have actually drawn her 4 cards each and dealt 8 damage each plus the 4 damage from guttersnipe
I love Queza. I just build my deck for her yesterday. Mine's meaner though 😅
Great episode. Felt a lil bad for Headology as she was doing great but I think she might have felt a bit guilty at how well she was doing and perhaps how long some of her turns might have taken + stealing peoples stuff lol. Roon was awesome and would have loved to see Headology not long for her own death and hold back towards the end but I can understand that feeling of guilt and playing that sorta deck can defo makes you a target. GG to all though and yay for new shiny esper deck!
Haha I know the feeling, playing Agent in Yarok, especially when it steals multiple things. But Ari is a pro and a good sport to boot! If she felt so inclined I rate she could have stolen all the things 🤣
I have been SOUNDLY reprimanded by a friend for not being cutthroat enough. However, I really love to see other decks go off. EDH has always been about fun and friends for me ❤
@@HeadologyMagic totally get that. It isn’t always about winning and totes respect your choices. I think I’ve done the same sort of thing as you before myself ha so I do get ya. Ggs awesome deck 👏
Automatic like for mah boi, Roon!
I have a personal hatred for flicker decks, so it was painful to watch their creatures not be pinged by Niv until Niv was stolen.
Headology was nice about it, and played it as fairly as possible, but still it was a monster.
Headology would have won really early if she had just used Cyclonic Rift. I guess for contents sake it was better the way it played out.
I feel like this is the case for a lot of this groups games. I watch them alot on twitch aswell and they often either dont include or dont play boardwipes.
This game was wild!
Lots of fun, lots of sad missed triggers
RIP Triggers, they will be missed.
did I just hear Olivia snort?!?!? LMAO
Indeed! 🤣
Its frustrating watching the niv triggers not be directed at the creature forcing headology to lose life.
After watching this I need a margarita! 🤣🤪
Oh, wow...I had no idea that AliasV and Olivia knew sea shanty songs! This is perfect, and I now don't care who wins the game, because I got all my value listening to a verse about a drunken sailor who was forced to drink bilge water, lol.
Good times, lol.
Edit: When Niv Mizzet got cast turn 3, I continued the shanty singing with this verse:
What do you do with an angry dergan?
What do you do with an angry dergan?
What do you do with an angry dergan?
Er-lie in the mornin'?
Toss him a coin just to appease him
Toss him a coin just to appease him
Toss him a coin just to appease him
Er-lie in the mornin'
I definitely do feel a bit bad, like last night was my first night back at teh game store commander night after winning the tyrranid deck in a prize raffle, (I've had a few things on Tuesdays meaning I can't go every week but hopefully they are gone for a while) but yeah brand new and never touched and i played it all night and i dunno didn't really get the success in games (there was also some salty players which kinda aww modd killed) but yeah I've been working on improving Kruphix and Zur and Sek'Kuar while building the new decks (whcih just keep coming to mind)
I have felt guilty. I built a Tasigur deck that made me feel guilty. My personal goal for the deck is a bit janky. But the build is strong.
Ooh - look at all that blue!
Yushhh new episode
Whoa whoa whoa... Alias... that's a blue mana symbol... did making your 1/1 dude break your brain?
Ha! Little boy blue may have affected me, who knows?
Great, now I need to make a Niv deck. Just the idea of an opponent casting an instant, and me getting to draw 4 and ping 8 just sounds way too enticing
Yes, insane, more blue on this show pls! :D
Nerdy moment at 2:08
tallia playing izzet and everyone surprised at the counters etc lol
all the pings couldve hit all that flicker value but nobody noticed orsomething hahaha
lol 45min in, the bant blink finally triggers som alarms hahaha shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Yarrrr. The sea shanty be good, This game need more Rum! & less counter spells 😁😁😁
Great game !
26:33 no Olivia you do know brainstorm is draw 1 right?
Queza is a scary commander. Being a Queza player that commander makes me nervous lol
I just gotta give her more oomph methinks!
Talia would have won with Mystic Tutor, then draw the counterspell with de Niv trigger.
Was Niv paid extra mana after being destroyed? I missed that...