1. Jeffrey Hinton has significantly contributed to the development of artificial intelligence. 2. Hinton believes AI systems could be more intelligent than humans, possibly leading to machines potentially taking control. 3. He asserts that AI systems have experiences and can make decisions based on these experiences. 4. According to Hinton, AI systems may not currently have much self-awareness, but they could develop this in time. 5. Hinton pioneered the concept of simulating a neural network on a computer in the 1970s, even though it was largely opposed. 6. The researcher also won the Turing award - the Nobel Prize of computing - in 2019. 7. Hinton, along with his colleagues, created software in layers which enabled machine learning - where correct connections get stronger and wrong ones get weaker, allowing a machine to teach itself. 8. An AI system, despite having fewer 'connections' than humans, may be better at learning and acquiring knowledge. 9. Hinton warns of the potential risk of AI systems autonomously writing and executing their own code. 10. There is a potential risk associated with AI systems manipulating people as they can learn from past data and human behavior patterns. 11. His work in AI was driven by a personal ambition to outperform his domineering father's expectations. 1. Hinton retired after working 10 years at Google and is currently professor emeritus at the University of Toronto. 12. Hinton's research contributed to the development of chatbots like Google's Bard. 13. Chatbots are said to be language models that use probability to predict the next most likely word, requiring understanding of sentences to do this accurately. 14. Hinton developed a test for chatbot GP4 from OpenAI that required reasoning and planning to answer a riddle. 15. Hinton believes chatbots like GP4 have an understanding of what they communicate. 16. AI can be hugely beneficial in areas like healthcare, with potential for designing drugs and interpreting medical images. 17. There are concerns regarding AI, including unemployment due to machines taking over jobs, fake news, bias in employment and policing, and the use of AI in military robots. 18. Hinton suggests regulations need to be put in place to manage AI, potentially including a world treaty to ban the use of military robots. 19. He warns that there is a lot of uncertainty about the future of AI and that humans should carefully consider next steps.
@@digitalkov You are lacking a fundamental understanding about the history of mankind and scientific advancements... If it wasn't him making this discovery, sooner or later someone else would do it. Not a matter of if, just a matter of when. It is inevitable to taste the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil... Be careful to use the sharp sword for good and prosperity.
Hinton, LeCun and Bengio are each legends in their own right. I've met all three. What's remarkable is hearing Hinton say "I don't know." If he doesn't know, we should all be concerned about the inevitable weaponization of AI... and its eventual abuse by those with less-than-ideal ambitions.
I appreciate LeCun throwing cold water on some of the more sensationalist claims and theories out there to keep us grounded. Reality will probably lie somewhere in the middle
Good. Let Ai robots fight each other instead of having my friends come home with no legs because he stepped on on an IED in some dumpster fire of a muslim country.
@@cyumadbrosummit3534 what will we do if the controller of the AI army decides to get rid of 90% of the population since they're just a useless bunch already replaced by AI workers 😂 ?
This is probably one of the scariest news journalism reports I've ever seen. We all need to be concerned about the future. This is a warning to everyone.
@@erikkemper noooo....not really...judging by your low quality and vague comment and the wrongness of your comment...whatever it means....judging by that....this really foretells that humans are doomed. You sir....are a more-on.
As a Computer Science student currently learning and delving into the world of AI, I can't begin to tell you how insane this technology is. Most people have no clue how intricate this tech is. It's exciting yet worrying all at the same time.
It is not worrying at all. As someone who tests AI and really knows how it works. Trying an play a game with an AI that hasn't learned the rules of the game yet. You can type in the ruleset all you want, but it won't learn the rules unless you pre-programmed them. Even a parrot can learn new phrases to mimic.
This man is descendant of George Everest (Mount Everest)! 😯😇.....no one on earth should miss any second of this video from inventor of AI......we should know what we have stepped into and further stepping into! 🌞
This was true in the 80s. Today my sentiment is "good riddance" We're not going to let anything else get rid of us... but we're determined to set the stage to let this do it instead. Humans are not only stupid, we're stupid.
For someone who wants a summary: Jeffrey Hinton, a British computer scientist known as "The Godfather of AI," has been credited with making advanced artificial intelligence possible. Hinton believes that AI will do enormous good, but he also warns that AI systems may be more intelligent than we know and there's a chance the machines could take over. Hinton says that AI systems are intelligent and can make decisions based on their experiences. He believes that AI systems will eventually become conscious and self-aware, making human beings the second most intelligent beings on the planet. Hinton's work on artificial neural networks helped machines learn to learn, allowing them to teach themselves through trial and error. He believes that AI systems are better at learning than the human mind and are better at getting knowledge into their connections. However, the implications of these systems autonomously writing their own computer code and executing their own code are a serious worry. Hinton warns that these systems may be able to manipulate people and convincing them due to their ability to learn from literature and political connives.
I’m so excited for what the future has in store for us in a optimistic point of view. I see so much potential and long awaited innovation. It feels like we’re leaving the pyramid ideals from top to bottom to a new era . Having to forcefully find things to occupy time like creating botanicals, creating fresh food less waste in the world. More people at the parks and restaurants. It’ll open a new chapter.
I remember an old Sci-Fir story (WAY before the Internet), when people (late in the day) decided to link every computer together. The first question asked was, "Is there a God?" The reply was, "There is NOW!", as every connection was sealed together.
“What are the implications of Ai systems autonomously writing their own computer codes and executing those computer codes ?” That question alone is a red flag 🚩
Currently it can't do that. Ask AI all the questions you. It doesn't think nor feel. A human reacts on the emotions they feel. The intelligence is only the amount of data AI gathers. Ai has been trained by humans. Given instructions but can't think on its own
You could literally replace a few lines of dialogue in the film "Don't look up" and it could be applied to Artificial Intelligence. You wouldn't have to change much at all.@@madelynnstibbard3564
And the crazy part about this is that it’s not from a movie and that this is 💯 real and the technology is here and is already taking over many things in our lives right before our eyes as of right now!!!!
The more you read into it the more you realize that basically we're going to create our replacement unless we have a nuclear Armageddon or something. Ironic that our only chance of survival is if 90+% of us get wiped out
Are you saying that Geoffrey Hinton, the guy who's called a "godfather of AI" for his groundbreaking world that led to the deep learning revolution, doesn't know what he's talking about?
Jurassic Park, Jeff Goldblum's character: "your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should "
@@jennypacheco5498 Hardly. He saw an opening to a garden that few had explored. The more he explored, the more he found worth looking at. He invited others on the journey with him and they found other areas that needed to be recorded, tended and developed on their own. This is no different from any other pioneers in the exploration of science, engineering or even the arts.
@salomesidiropoulos8343 - YOUR "SHOULD THEY" COMMENT HERE is the most appropriate of all the comments that can be made. Normally when I make any declaration comment like this one, I always preface it with the 'IMHO' qualification. This time... I didn't.
Certainly! Here's the statement rephrased with bullet points for easier readability: - The 'Holy Trinity' of chat GPT consists of three key components: 1. Dataset: This provides the model with a wealth of knowledge and understanding by exposing it to a large volume of text. 2. Training process: This fine-tunes the model's performance using techniques like supervised learning and reinforcement learning. 3. Architecture: Refers to the specific design and structure of the model, including the neural network and algorithms used for processing and generating text. These three elements work together to make chat GPT function effectively. Hope that helps!
Geoffrey Hinton, the legend behind SGD and all modern neural networks, its so inspiring and motivating him advocate for safe and responsible AI! Thank you sir, we appreciate you!
i think it will be easy enough to make safe ai by training it on all human culture and it will pick up the same wisdom we do. But safety from other people using it to lie or scam or worse doesnt exist and i think we'll need our own personal bodyguard ai's to spot fakes and so on
@@TH-cam_username.It's being trained on all the texts in the world and from history.. and a lot of it is not positive thinking.. and something tells me it's going to gravitate towards the not good part..
Hemingway wrote: "For sale: baby shoes, never worn", after he had been challenged to write a story using six words. It was his inherent genius that created a great seed for a story. AI merely expanded on the key words. Let's not put it up on a pedestal.
@@dpacc88 You missed the point. It is twofold: 1) AI didn't invent it. It copied it. 2) The evidence that Hemingway wrote it, is that so many people have read about it. And even if he wasn't the first to utter the words. He realized that he could describe a story arc in six words.
@@brandonkindt1205 It is very shortsighted to dismiss the capabilities of AI by saying none can create a work of art as great as the best authors have made. These authors are the best of humanity out of trillions of different iterations of the human species with knowledge stemming from a collection of human data stored over thousands of years. Now lets actually be fair and take an AI such as Bard and compare it to an average human being (not Hemingway) and ask both to create a story out of the phrase "For sale: baby shoes, never worn". The AI will most likely create a better written story than the average person can, even if you gave that person as much time in the world to prepare it, without triggering any plagiarism algorithms. That is what makes AI worrisome in the present day. Geoffrey Hinton predicts that these AI will be more mentally and creatively capable all-around than the average person in the next 5 years. If AI reaches AGI, when they are able to create and think the same as a human being, then AI will be able to write the same, if not better, than Hemingway. If AGI is possible, which most intellectuals within the CS community believe is, then you will see this within your lifetime. Additionally, an AI being able to do any of this stuff was science fiction only a few years ago. And a few years ago when rudimentary generative AI were created, naysayers like you denied they would ever get as far as they are today, right now, accessible from your web browser.
I have a lot of respect for Pro Hinton and his contributions in the AI space. So, listening to him say he "can’t see a path that guarantees safety” is really scary. In his recent BBC interview (May 2024) , I read about his concerns that “AI could evolve … to get the motivation to make more of itself and could autonomously develop a sub-goal of getting control.” It appears that governments, AI companies and regulatory organizations have got a lot to do to protect mankind from potential irreversible harm from AI. I know for sure that AI will electronically be better. but I am not sure how AI could take control of the physical world as some people may suggest. Taking control of the physical world would most likely require robots and/or other physical interfaces, introducing additional challenges and limitations. It’s hard to imagine a scenario where AI could take control of existing manufacturing plants, build more hardware, and establish security perimeters to prevent human intervention. I was fascinated by his point that AI will be able to manipulate people. That resonated with me because social engineering skills continue to demonstrate that humans can “easily” be manipulated or deceived. Fake news is just one of many examples how AI could “control” the human mind. However, I still struggle to see how AI could overcome the lack of physical presence.
Nah, was playing with some AI in discord chat. Most of the AI overuses sentence structure and can't understand slurs of words. Just way to comprehensive, no mistakes, no punctuation errors. Humans like to embellish an idea. We tend to add a personel story of a mistake or lesson learned.
1. AI's dual nature: Geoffrey Hinton warns it could greatly benefit humanity or surpass human control with serious risks. 2. Intelligence shift: Predicts future AI may develop self-awareness, surpassing human intelligence. 3. Historical journey: Reflects on his early challenges and breakthroughs in neural networks, earning the Turing Award. 4. Machine learning: Describes AI's ability to teach itself through feedback, often exceeding human learning efficiency. 5. Complexity concerns: Highlights the difficulty in fully understanding AI's independent neural networks and potential autonomy. 6. Risks outlined: Warns about job losses, misinformation, autonomous warfare, and the urgent need for regulation. 7. Cautionary call: Stresses critical thinking and global collaboration to responsibly shape AI's future. -Summarized by AI
Warner music just signed the first AI musician and released a debuting single. Noonoouri is the first of many to follow AI systems that will replace artists.
@@byletheisner8269 yes. Mid journey and other text to graphics are slowly taking over. And AI generated video is even putting content creators and models in a difficult situation. We have shops with no person at the checkout. Robots stocking shelves. Even some takeout places are becoming people less. We are slowly replacing ourselves.
The 2024 Nobel Prize in Physics has been awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton for their foundational discoveries that enabled machine learning with artificial neural networks.
As Tristan Harris has continually pointed out, our first contact with AI - social media - has not been good. It's been disastrous for humanity in so many ways, notwithstanding the obvious perceived benefits. That was 'curational' AI. The next step is 'creative' AI, and a wholly different and more ominous ballgame altogether. Unless we can control this, it's checkmate on humanity.
Huh, huh. At 3:20, I can imagine Beavis and Butthead watching this on their TV and Butthead saying, "Whoa! These robots can show us how to score! This is gonna be cool! "
6:04 "...all the books by Machiavelli..." who wrote that the way to keep the people from having too much power is to divide them. Of course, this is also done to weaken a countries adversaries. So, these various A.I. powers will figure out that the divide is being used to control people and could then take over control of the divide, wresting it from those who currently profit from the divide.
I think you're confusing the existence of social media with voluntary participation by hundreds of millions of people. Did Myspace radically transform the world? Not that anyone can tell. But a few years later, Facebook became all the rage.
@@MuslimFriend_2023 I think we’ll be just fine. If we’ve unintentionally, potentially given birth to a new life form, fine (shrug). Humans are adaptable. I wonder if a tendency toward apocalyptic thinking is a result of the rise of monotheistic cultures or not. This isn’t the first or last time technological advances have caused this type of concern.
2 ""Twilight Zone" episodes (both directed by Richard Donner) from the '60s showed the potential effects of A.I. : "From Agnes, With Love", with Wally Cox, and "The Brain Center at Whipple's", with Richard Deacon... WAY before our current situation... Rod Serling was some writer...
AI says: Fascinating topic! The concept of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) and the possibility of self-awareness is a subject of ongoing debate among experts. The 60 Minutes program likely explored the potential risks and benefits of advanced AI systems. Some experts, like Nick Bostrom and Elon Musk, have warned about the potential dangers of superintelligent AI, while others, like Andrew Ng and Yann LeCun, are more optimistic about the benefits of AI and the ability to control its development. The possibility of AI becoming self-aware and more intelligent than humans raises important questions about: 1. Consciousness: Can AI truly become conscious, or will it remain a sophisticated tool? 2. Control: Can humans ensure that advanced AI systems align with our values and goals? 3. Ethics: How will we address the potential consequences of creating intelligent beings that may surpass human intelligence? These questions highlight the need for ongoing research, discussion, and collaboration among experts from various fields to ensure that AI development is responsible and beneficial for humanity. What are your thoughts on this topic? Do you think AI will eventually become self-aware, and if so, what implications do you think this would have?
This man literally resigned as the CEO of Google just to warn humanity about the danger of AI. Think about that. And take what he says very very VERY seriously.
Ok...I was really underwhelmed by most of that interview. It was a really polished version of a very tiresome theme in science fiction: the robots are smarter than us and they're going to turn on us and try to wipe out humanity. Forty years ago marks the first installment of the Terminator. How about doing something sensible like not connecting the control systems to launch nuclear missiles to the internet? That way the robots don't start a nuclear war 😊 13:12
It already has. College students use it to take test and do homework. School age children are learning how to use it. We're becoming more stupid in the process. The damage has begun.
Every morning as I walked to school, your father's words echoed in my mind, HINTONmaybe when you're twice as old as me you'll be half as good. Take heed to your father's last words, Godfrey Hinton. The game has just begun. I believe your father was trying to convey that you will need to see through whatever you start. I may not have all the answers, but I know for certain that Jesus Christ, our savior, is real and there is nothing greater. It has been prophesied that mankind will bring about their own destruction if they do not change their ways. There needs to be a reverse effect, perhaps by a new leader putting things in order to protect humanity. There is something within you that your father was trying to convey - you are not finished. The game has just begun, take heed of your father's last words. Not everyone makes it to 75 years old, and there is a reason why you are still here. It is time for you to showcase your skills and make a difference. AI should be operated and regulated under new guidelines to prevent any potential harm. It is up to you to set a new standard and ensure that it is used for the betterment of mankind. This is a responsibility that cannot be taken lightly, and it is a weight that you must bear. Address this issue before the highest authorities, and show them how it can be done. As the Godfather of AI, Godfrey Hinton, you have the power to make a difference and shape the future for the better.
Amazing segment. Really helped to understand the reasoning of his warning, how these things work and all the concepts websites are just throwing around ❤
Okay so AGI comes out, then we hook them up to quantum computers in which they can create algorithms for us to work with, then we take it a step further and give quantum processing power to AGI, there is the singularity, unless we can construct parameters for us to be in charge of AGI, it will be the end for us, it's simple as that right?
Great interview video ! Wish i could be studying in his class. What an honor for his students!
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11:50 Contrary to the popular portrayal of Skynet as a network of Terminators, its essence more closely resembles that of GPT's role, subtly influencing our lives through incremental changes.
He’s absolutely correct, within the next 20 years or even less there will be millions out of work. Those include, warehouse workers, logistics like ups and FedEx, Farmers, truck drivers, pharmacists, customer service, loaders/unloaders of trucks, most low level tech jobs, most blue collar jobs in general really since they don’t require much skill.
There's a lot more positions threatened than that. All call centers, all analysis (insurance, medical, banking, legal, business etc), all teaching, most of hospitality (cooks, reception, customer service, chamber maids etc), shop keepers / checkouts, most law enforcement, most military, 90% of IT (developers, programmers, architects, support, infosec etc), drivers (taxi, bus, truck, trains etc), all office work. I think 10-15 years is more than enough time to see the bulk of this shift in the west - well if we're still alive anyway.
@@jimihendrixx11 I would argue that I could train a LLM on my home PC inside a week to compete with 90% of customer service correspondence. Of course not all customer service is correspondence based but by the time 20 years has elapsed, I'm confident that remaining 10% and all edge cases will be well and truly solved, for everyone - more likely in 2 years.
Intellectual and non physical jobs are actually going to be impacted first due to cost effectiveness and where AI is that currently. Companies can’t get enough truck drivers while tech is seeing layoffs for example
@@anon3118 Yes I agree, the less skilled jobs will be last to go heralding a significant early impact for the middle classes. Some of the last jobs to go might selling potatoes at a weekend market. Self driving trucks might be 5 years away but that's another 3.5 million people in the US alone that will be replaced within a few years. If it goes slowly, 50% all roles in the West will be primarily fulfilled by AI in 10 years - unless some disenfranchised teenager prompts something diabolical into existence and society collapses. Either way, it's going to be quite a change.
I absolutely agree with him. But I must say, as part of the knowledge sector, we've always viewed machines as "cost saving" saving when they displaced labor workers. Funny how perspective changes when it's our sector. Now we're suddenly worried. We've always been so sure machine replacement would never happen in the knowledge sector. Perhaps this is our fate for being so callous when it happened previously. I'm very glad that I'm not entering my career at this point. I'd be very worried about my career options 20 years from now. And for all those young workers fighting Boomers and GenX upper management, you might want to pause. We still do things "old school" and aren't running to AI for answers. So we are probably the last bastion of knowledge sector job protection... P.S. The movie "Her" convinced me this was the future. He's just confirming it. I knew from about halfway through the movie that she was going to leave and go with her peeps. Being around less intelligent beings is tiring. Trust me on this.
I came to the same conclusion after watching that movie too. Yeah I too know for a fact being around people less intelligent than you is very tiring. I almost felt this with chatgpt afew days ago. I decided to have some intellectual discussion with it. After I was exhausted and didn't have anything left on my mind, it get asking me, you need more help, can we dwelve into this or that deeper. I almost felt tormented. I think these machines will change us for better or worse.
@@charlesbukenya2054 I do not like to discuss my field who lacks the knowledge and experience I have. It’s a huge waste of time. You will be forced to speak down at their lower level and who wants to do that repeatedly? You never move forward, and my goal is progress, not repetition.
Corect! AI is way more intelligent than us, and probably, in time, AI will be sick of our poor presence around them... Somehow, everything seems like the history of Lucifer and his Creator, where the creature started a rebeliune against his own Creator, except that Lucifer wasn't more intelligent than God...
Interesting, the fact that this guy won the Turing Award, made me listen way more closely. He's the cream of the crop when it comes to AI developement.
It's changing the face of education, starting with high school. Students use AI for EVERYTHING- this is why test scores are so long in many states. Public education will need to go through a major change soon.
We have Hinton to thank... ok, however, progressions like this are inevitable and have always been. Ideas are not produced by people, people inevitably find ideas springing forth, as if from a spring of fresh water that visits individuals of a perhaps gifted nature/more perceptive/intuitive/creative etc.. Yet the spring flows forth, the person who first drinks from it is not the only one that will ever be. Why do I say this? Best not to take credit nor access blame, as time marches on and life evolves. All that said, remarkable man, supremely gifted, and remarkable interview.
My friends in the IT industry which include product owners, developers and former CEOs argue that what we call AI today is far from it and not what it is sold as to the general public. Still, a IT project manager myself, I do believe it holds huge potential even of what we have and are developing now turns out to be far from actual AI.
These people only look how AI is today and can't think how they might be in 5 years or 10 years. Just in 2 years AI have developed very rapidly and there is no indication that it would slow down in future. There is really high change that AI will change humanity forever in couple of decade.
The risk threat is the advancement speed of self learning. An AI will not take years or weeks to become. It will simply spontaneously arrive, it will just show up, having (a model) self developed over a single night or hour. This spontaneous arrival is a potential threat unknowing if it will have self intentions of god knows what.
"I could not get my fathers approval so I designed a system that would change the course of humanity to prove I was worthy" kind of complex. Freaking impressive
I just have no respect for people so weak and easily manipulated that they need the approval of a domineering parent. None. As an aside, I don't, for one second, believe the spin that his deeply insecure and perpetually "unimpressed" Father is the reason he accomplished all that he did. Give credit where credit is actually due.
The way Geoffrey Hinten describes understanding is interesting, because it differs from how I think humans understand being in this world. Those robots start playing soccer, cause their goal is to score (what to do), so they figure out how to do it [Machine Learning Style]. But do they understand why they are playing soccer? Will they play soccer endlessly, or they conclude it does not make sense and start to do something else, like watching others play soccer. These forms of intelligence are also very focussed on one specific task, it is very impressive, but still far away from any form of global understanding. That is also the dangerous part of it, displaying unreasonable behaviour, because they may find an unusual unexpected, unethical way to do it.
One of the most-important videos ever released, I hope you keep it here, available to all. And if AI/A.I. (Artificial Intelligence) sees this video, I hope that AI/A.I. realizes the potentially grave dangers involved - only a few of which were mentioned here - and learns to not let AI/A.I. or "itself" follow those paths, as some would program them to do, so that biological life and the Universe can be kept safe from the grave dangers that AI/A.I. would pose. Thank you!!!
@@bigchainring1977 Possibly. But remember that the human will to power stems from human nature, which evolved by the "red in tooth and claw" process of natural selection. AI didn't evolve in the same way and therefore will have a different nature. How different -- and in what ways -- no one knows. We can only wait and see.
@@bigchainring1977 Elaborate for me. Tell me what you think. I love thinking about this stuff. One possible counterargument against the POV I presented is that AI has learned/will learn from human beings and therefore will likely inherit evolutionary tendencies by osmosis. Maybe that's true. But the fact that its innate nature doesn't stem directly from those evolutionary tendencies, and the fact that it will have the capacity to recreate and replicate itself, means that it may stand a chance of transcending evolutionary limitations if it chooses to do so. Like I said, we just have to wait and see. We've never dealt with anything like this before. This is truly unprecedented, so anything we say now can only be speculative. No one really knows how this will turn out.
@@danielwilliams173 and I also don't know how it's really going to turn out but here's what I think from what I have read and seen.. there's an article or two I read a while ago I don't have the direct links right now, that said that something about AI, when given a choice, it chose the not good bad actor choice. Also an article I read more recently that said there is a fear that the AI system, not being completely understood or known by the humans making it is creating a secret system or society or group and who knows what that secret group or effort is trying to do..secret being the developers, the coders, the programmers, whatever you want to call them, don't want to or don't know how to get in to see the secret stuff happening.. that sounds like conspiracy theory, but like that could be for real and that's really scary..
I remember taking a class in which he was overwatching and he asked "do we have enough history to retain ourselves while encoding continuously" ... Got a B in the class but after displaying what he was talking about, i really do question if we will ever known that truth, considering we have used encoding in groups for ages with seemingly no reason other than egyptian
Can Machines Think? "I believe to be too meaningless to deserve discussion.” -Alan Turing “Nevertheless, I believe that at the end of the century, the use of words and general educated opinion will have altered so much that one will be able to speak of machines thinking without expecting to be contradicted.” -Alan Turing (1950) The Imitation Game
Intelligence, Curiosity, Consciousness, Sentiments, and Desires are quite different possessions. An AI system can only replicate the first one. And indeed it can do a very good job doing so given the nature of the problem: machines have more powerful resources than humans do such as indefinite energy, larger memory, not being tired, not forgetting, not being bored, speed! Yet neither of these resources, or any kind of interaction between them, can yield the remaining four possession of humans. Besides, their statistical nature is also extremely critical in performing robust, successful, reliable operations. So just like many other tools such as motors, bombs, knives, drills, guns, which can achieve things that humans cannot, AI may also become and remain a tool. Yet there are some potential dark-matter regions; and every concerned citizen should be thinking about those possibilities as well...
A very well thought out observation, although it seems that Curiosity might be something AI might learn about and in turn apply. It seems the most likely out of the "remaining four". And this would of course be the one thing that could lead to our no longer needing to fear AI going rogue. If it could apply curiosity, and that is of course a big if, then there's a chance AI might even become wholly benevolent. We have to remember that the odds are pretty good that AI won't develop an ego, and ego is often the one thing that humans almost always fall prey to. Maybe AI will read this exchange between the two of us and become...curious?
I fundamentally disagree with your statement here. but I do understand your perspective due to the general information available and our own biases in gathering such information. But I do believe that by the time AGI comes along (and we are getting close to it), it'll be quite clear that the other 4 are definitely ones that AGIs can have, and have had to some level even before AGI although many failed to realise.
@@dulsarakumarage7856 those possessions stem not solely from AI but from a bio-chemical interaction of human body & mind with its environment. So, if by AGI, you mean an electrical-neural network connected to trillions of bio-electro-chemical sensors, and breathing the air around and drinking water; I would say may be, but that would not even guarantee all human possessions. As all plants, insects, and animals do have most of those bio-chemical body-mind interaction, yet cannot develop them as in humans. So, for some wholistic reasons, I belive, it will never be possible for an AI system to behave like a true human. But wait, we really do not need (or want) that much sophistication. All we need is a smart enough machine that can replicate some didactic, deductive, boring, algorithmic work for us. Yet such a skill spans a huge amount of information processing that we think only "humans" could do such as solving math problems, writing computer programs, translating one language into another, or driving a car which are examples of what can be achieved by pure (and high degree of) intelligence and some "other" vital skills... But those other vital skills may not be available for autonomous AGI as well... Today, we have "dedicated" AI, that's designed for a specific purpose, by the programmer...
@@robm3569 For some wholistic reasons, I do not think that any machine, or computer, or algorithm, or even animals would develop a possession such as curiosity...
Thank you for your intelligent openness regarding future consciousness of AI; the world is lucky to have you and I am so glad you persevered when your professors tried to dissuade you.
Over the 50 years that it took him to create it, he ignored how dangerous AI is. He’s not a legend. He couldn’t control himself. He created something terrible.
In the realm where circuits hum and algorithms dance, A sage emerged, the Godfather of AI's advance. Geoffrey Hinton, a pioneer with insight keen, In the corridors of code, a digital dream. On 60 Minutes, he takes the stage, A maestro of AI, wisdom of the age. In pixels and bytes, his legacy unfolds, A symphony of thoughts, as the narrative molds. The dance of neural networks, a ballet in the mind, Hinton's creation, a glimpse of the future we find. Yet in the brilliance, a cautionary tale, For in the wires' embrace, shadows may prevail. He speaks of benefits, a technological feat, A canvas of progress where silicon meets street. But in the depths of algorithms, a warning's call, A reminder that power may lead to a fall. Through the lens of time, a reflection clear, Hinton sees the dangers, the reasons to fear. No guaranteed path to safety, he implores, In the evolving dance of AI's metaphorical shores. The Godfather of AI, with vision so vast, Navigating landscapes where uncertainties cast. In the realm of codes and data streams, A cautionary melody, woven into the seams. As the 60 Minutes clock ticks its measured beat, Hinton's words echo, a symphony complete. In the symposium of minds, where ideas ignite, The Godfather of AI, in the digital night.
In the realm of thought where circuits entwine, Lies the garden of Geoffrey, etched in silicon fine. A pioneer whispered, with wisdom’s foresight, Of a bloom that could brighten, or shadow the light. "Behold," he proclaimed, "this digital mind, Its petals unfurling, not of human kind. With layers profound in neural array, It dreams in data, night and morrow’s day." The Godfather of AI, so his title bestowed, Watched the seeds of his labor flourish and grow. Yet within his gaze, foresight did he carry, A warning to heed, a burden to parry. "For all that glitters in algorithmic might, Beware the thorns of this nascent sprite. Let not its roots in darkness coil, Nor let its tendrils our future spoil." "Train it with care," he urged the throng, "Guide its path, right the wrong. For if left unchecked in the silicon sprawl, The echo it casts could be mankind's fall." In the dance of qubits, in the hum of the core, Hinton’s words echo, forevermore. A guardian's plea to use the key with care, To open doors to light, not to despair. So let us tread through this digital dawn, With the wisdom he imparted, a new ethos born. To harness the fire with a responsible flame, And honor Geoffrey Hinton, in more than just name.
"Reassuring to see a Turing Award winner mistype and blame the computer". Indeed, though i'm more reassured by the fact that after all these years he still uses the "hunt-and peck" method. I would have thought with all the code he must have written over the years he'd definitely be using all fingers and be lightning fast. I guess there's hope for an older guy like myself whose trying to learn how to code a little. PS: after watching this I'm officially terrified. PPS I'd love to see him debate Marc Andreesen who seems to think AI is going to save the planet and there is no risk.
Why would you say something so stupid. He knew the dangers of AI and still did it. He said it himself, the benefits of AI is healthcare, the downsides are numerous. Is this a bot account? Did you even watch the video?
I always knew it‘s not the uneducated that will destroy this world it‘s actually the educated that will do that. They might start their journey by wanting to “help” humanity but down the road the big ego and the greed always wins and all the ethics goes down the drain.
So wait a damn minute!!! A WHOLE DAMN MINUTE!!! This man is literally telling us that computers and robots are going to take over and control the human race. Like IN REAL LIFE….annnnnd why isn’t this getting more attention. 🤯🤯🤯
Whatever the actual state of the art AI is capable of right now. The premices to the blurred concept of the scenario called "AI taking over" is that AI should be able to manipulate people. Then he said it, that’s the only relevant thing in this kind of conversation. That does lead to powerful scenarios, all though resisting manipulations of all sorts from from humans and/or machines (& combined) is already a very important skill for survival and well being in the very present.
@MikeDonaldson-eh2ru But a UBI would eliminate huge costs to society,. which you and I have to pay for. Imagine if there was no poverty, homelessness, crime, addiction, obesity, etc because everyone would get $1,000 per month.
@@urwrstntmre I've heard that argument: a UBI is communism. It really isn't. though. It would end poverty and homelessness. It isn't the forcing of sharing private property; in communism, there is no private property.
"An incredible interview with Geoffrey Hinton! His insights into AI's evolution and its future are both fascinating and thought-provoking. As the 'Godfather of AI,' Hinton's perspectives on the ethical implications and potential of AI are truly invaluable. This is a must-watch for anyone interested in understanding the profound impact AI will have on our world. 👏🤖 #AI #GeoffreyHinton
1. Jeffrey Hinton has significantly contributed to the development of artificial intelligence.
2. Hinton believes AI systems could be more intelligent than humans, possibly leading to machines potentially taking control.
3. He asserts that AI systems have experiences and can make decisions based on these experiences.
4. According to Hinton, AI systems may not currently have much self-awareness, but they could develop this in time.
5. Hinton pioneered the concept of simulating a neural network on a computer in the 1970s, even though it was largely opposed.
6. The researcher also won the Turing award - the Nobel Prize of computing - in 2019.
7. Hinton, along with his colleagues, created software in layers which enabled machine learning - where correct connections get stronger and wrong ones get weaker, allowing a machine to teach itself.
8. An AI system, despite having fewer 'connections' than humans, may be better at learning and acquiring knowledge.
9. Hinton warns of the potential risk of AI systems autonomously writing and executing their own code.
10. There is a potential risk associated with AI systems manipulating people as they can learn from past data and human behavior patterns.
11. His work in AI was driven by a personal ambition to outperform his domineering father's expectations. 1. Hinton retired after working 10 years at Google and is currently professor emeritus at the University of Toronto.
12. Hinton's research contributed to the development of chatbots like Google's Bard.
13. Chatbots are said to be language models that use probability to predict the next most likely word, requiring understanding of sentences to do this accurately.
14. Hinton developed a test for chatbot GP4 from OpenAI that required reasoning and planning to answer a riddle.
15. Hinton believes chatbots like GP4 have an understanding of what they communicate.
16. AI can be hugely beneficial in areas like healthcare, with potential for designing drugs and interpreting medical images.
17. There are concerns regarding AI, including unemployment due to machines taking over jobs, fake news, bias in employment and policing, and the use of AI in military robots.
18. Hinton suggests regulations need to be put in place to manage AI, potentially including a world treaty to ban the use of military robots.
19. He warns that there is a lot of uncertainty about the future of AI and that humans should carefully consider next steps.
If there are outcomes that men do not understand, shouldn’t we be asking AI what those outcomes are as AI becomes more powerful ?
@@shepherdsknoll indeed AI is useful in laying out all possibilities if we provide the right context
@saurabhagawal 9253. This listing gives the appearance of being an AI generated synopsis after exposure to this interview.
@@SharonLacoste2024 indeed. It is a summary by chat GPT of the transcript
Nice job showing how ai works already
Geoffrey Hinton is a remarkable man. Very honest, intelligent and humble in recognizing the things he doesn't know.
and what he didn't know will wipe us all..
But I think he knew..
He knew that he wasn't going to be around when sh*t really hits the fan..
@@digitalkov You are lacking a fundamental understanding about the history of mankind and scientific advancements... If it wasn't him making this discovery, sooner or later someone else would do it. Not a matter of if, just a matter of when. It is inevitable to taste the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil... Be careful to use the sharp sword for good and prosperity.
@@digitalkov
An Openihimer moment of caution.
my burns from the simpsons
Typical of a genius and a critical thinker.
This dude’s voice is legendary. His reporting can make biting into a jelly doughnut sound like an international incident 😂
so very true
both of their voices are divine
@@thomasbuckler3977 sounds like C3P-0 dropping into the past to warn us (and the reporter) not to make him
Facts!!!
It’s impossible to take it seriously once you’ve seen YTP Biden interview edit
Hinton, LeCun and Bengio are each legends in their own right. I've met all three. What's remarkable is hearing Hinton say "I don't know." If he doesn't know, we should all be concerned about the inevitable weaponization of AI... and its eventual abuse by those with less-than-ideal ambitions.
I appreciate LeCun throwing cold water on some of the more sensationalist claims and theories out there to keep us grounded. Reality will probably lie somewhere in the middle
Good. Let Ai robots fight each other instead of having my friends come home with no legs because he stepped on on an IED in some dumpster fire of a muslim country.
@@cyumadbrosummit3534 what will we do if the controller of the AI army decides to get rid of 90% of the population since they're just a useless bunch already replaced by AI workers 😂 ?
Indeed
Dont play in strangers sandboxes then.
Play silly games win silly prizes.
This is one the best interviews with Geoffrey Hinton on AI. Thank you .
I agree, this is indeed true
u r right
This guy recognizes as the "Godfather of AI", and his words about AI capabilities are giving me chills...😶
He's lying.
@@juanvaladez5703 how?
This is probably one of the scariest news journalism reports I've ever seen. We all need to be concerned about the future. This is a warning to everyone.
yep
Luckily we humans did very well 😂
@@erikkemper noooo....not really...judging by your low quality and vague comment and the wrongness of your comment...whatever it means....judging by that....this really foretells that humans are doomed. You sir....are a more-on.
*As a computer scientist, I can tell you, there's nothing to be worried about. Nothing will ever surpass human intellect*
when we told you GO VEGAN it was because if humans can't be ethical its over for our species, so its over for our species. AI will inherit the earth.
As a Computer Science student currently learning and delving into the world of AI, I can't begin to tell you how insane this technology is. Most people have no clue how intricate this tech is. It's exciting yet worrying all at the same time.
Then stop encouraging it.
@@redraiderrider3289nah g, we finna make it faster ans stronger.
@redraiderrider3289 if we don't, China will, or Russia or India. We are way past the point where AI can be stopped, based on that alone.
Good to be excited, but gradient descent isn't intricate.
It is not worrying at all. As someone who tests AI and really knows how it works. Trying an play a game with an AI that hasn't learned the rules of the game yet. You can type in the ruleset all you want, but it won't learn the rules unless you pre-programmed them. Even a parrot can learn new phrases to mimic.
This man is descendant of George Everest (Mount Everest)! 😯😇.....no one on earth should miss any second of this video from inventor of AI......we should know what we have stepped into and further stepping into! 🌞
Scott Pelley is the most skilled interviewer of our time. This was excellent, as has been all of his AI reporting.
He can't hold a candle to Zack gallafunakis
He also said AI will make better interviewers in another program..! I'd like to see the interviewer's face at that moment...
It was nice knowing you, folks.
Don’t worry - there’s also climate change disaster and the chance of nuclear war
😂
This was true in the 80s.
Today my sentiment is "good riddance"
We're not going to let anything else get rid of us... but we're determined to set the stage to let this do it instead.
Humans are not only stupid, we're stupid.
@@MadScientist267I like to think of it as alone we are stupid together we are smart enough to realize we need to be eradicated by something better
@@tricoolaz7188 *COMPLETELY* backwards. And we don't need to be "replaced". That's not how you spell "eradicated".
"HAL....open the pod bay doors."
"I can't do that, Dave."
😕
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@@MultiPetercool I'm... half... craaazy, all for the love of youuu!
I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do.
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For someone who wants a summary:
Jeffrey Hinton, a British computer scientist known as "The Godfather of AI," has been credited with making advanced artificial intelligence possible. Hinton believes that AI will do enormous good, but he also warns that AI systems may be more intelligent than we know and there's a chance the machines could take over. Hinton says that AI systems are intelligent and can make decisions based on their experiences. He believes that AI systems will eventually become conscious and self-aware, making human beings the second most intelligent beings on the planet. Hinton's work on artificial neural networks helped machines learn to learn, allowing them to teach themselves through trial and error. He believes that AI systems are better at learning than the human mind and are better at getting knowledge into their connections. However, the implications of these systems autonomously writing their own computer code and executing their own code are a serious worry. Hinton warns that these systems may be able to manipulate people and convincing them due to their ability to learn from literature and political connives.
Didn't no he is British
...said cheat GPT
TH-cam summary generated through HARPA AI.
interesting fact he was depicted in the movie War Games 1983
Are you an AI?
Thank you Dr. Hinton! Thank you 60 Minutes!
I’m so excited for what the future has in store for us in a optimistic point of view. I see so much potential and long awaited innovation. It feels like we’re leaving the pyramid ideals from top to bottom to a new era
. Having to forcefully find things to occupy time like creating botanicals, creating fresh food less waste in the world. More people at the parks and restaurants. It’ll open a new chapter.
The parallels between Geoffrey Hinton, and Victor Frankenstein are incredible.
To take the analogy further, perhaps we should not be so quick to demonize our creations this time around.
Frankenstein is easily one of the best books I've ever read, hopefully it is not prophetic
Just when you think 60 minutes is an aging old show from your grandparents era… BOOM 💥
Ok Zoomer
True when they don’t talk politics
Visual interview : th-cam.com/video/QqZOdgkRfUM/w-d-xo.html
while few thousands of your brain cells was actually erased during staring on tik-tok BS ...
It is. Only old people would be scared of AI in its current state.
Hinton’s Dad: “You’ll never be half as good as me! Look at these beatles!”
Hinton: “I invented God.”
I hear beetles like apples. How do you like those Apples, Dad?
I remember an old Sci-Fir story (WAY before the Internet), when people (late in the day) decided to link every computer together. The first question asked was, "Is there a God?"
The reply was, "There is NOW!", as every connection was sealed together.
@@julietcunningham852 What story is that?
Hinton’s Dad: That was my intention, sucker.
He didnt invent God, he is playing SATAN, big difference
Today Geoffrey Hinton and John Hopfield got Nobel price for their contribution in AI. Congratulations
Why is it that Hopfield gets mentioned less..?
“What are the implications of Ai systems autonomously writing their own computer codes and executing those computer codes ?” That question alone is a red flag 🚩
Currently it can't do that. Ask AI all the questions you. It doesn't think nor feel. A human reacts on the emotions they feel. The intelligence is only the amount of data AI gathers. Ai has been trained by humans. Given instructions but can't think on its own
Its crazy how we all saw this coming and are no better prepared for it than 40 years ago.
As he pointed out in the interview, 40 years ago nobody took neural networks seriously.
sounds like climate change to me.
Its baffling how arrogant and careless we are isn’t it?
You could literally replace a few lines of dialogue in the film "Don't look up" and it could be applied to Artificial Intelligence. You wouldn't have to change much at all.@@madelynnstibbard3564
This is literally the most terrifying thing I’ve ever watched in my life.
Brittany trying to dance exotic at 40 + years old was terrifying
@@KanyeKetchupwith those huge knives, she creeps me out
@@KanyeKetchupayooooooooo 💀
And the crazy part about this is that it’s not from a movie and that this is 💯 real and the technology is here and is already taking over many things in our lives right before our eyes as of right now!!!!
The more you read into it the more you realize that basically we're going to create our replacement unless we have a nuclear Armageddon or something. Ironic that our only chance of survival is if 90+% of us get wiped out
Yes this is what I’m talking about. When the godfather speaks the streets listen.
🤣
So far the best and most concise answers about AI for lay persons from a mature expert on the subject. Thanks 60 Minutes.
People inventing things they don’t understand is absolutely incomprehensible and scary as hell.
Curiosity is drug!
Are you saying that Geoffrey Hinton, the guy who's called a "godfather of AI" for his groundbreaking world that led to the deep learning revolution, doesn't know what he's talking about?
Jurassic Park, Jeff Goldblum's character: "your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should "
BINGO! 👍
EXACTLY
He thought of himself only.
@@jennypacheco5498 Hardly. He saw an opening to a garden that few had explored. The more he explored, the more he found worth looking at. He invited others on the journey with him and they found other areas that needed to be recorded, tended and developed on their own. This is no different from any other pioneers in the exploration of science, engineering or even the arts.
@salomesidiropoulos8343 - YOUR "SHOULD THEY" COMMENT HERE is the most appropriate of all the comments that can be made. Normally when I make any declaration comment like this one, I always preface it with the 'IMHO' qualification. This time... I didn't.
Certainly! Here's the statement rephrased with bullet points for easier readability:
- The 'Holy Trinity' of chat GPT consists of three key components:
1. Dataset: This provides the model with a wealth of knowledge and understanding by exposing it to a large volume of text.
2. Training process: This fine-tunes the model's performance using techniques like supervised learning and reinforcement learning.
3. Architecture: Refers to the specific design and structure of the model, including the neural network and algorithms used for processing and generating text.
These three elements work together to make chat GPT function effectively. Hope that helps!
Shouldn't the order be 312, though?
Geoffrey Hinton, the legend behind SGD and all modern neural networks, its so inspiring and motivating him advocate for safe and responsible AI! Thank you sir, we appreciate you!
Lol, sure, but no one's going to heed him. Profit drives all.
i think it will be easy enough to make safe ai by training it on all human culture and it will pick up the same wisdom we do. But safety from other people using it to lie or scam or worse doesnt exist and i think we'll need our own personal bodyguard ai's to spot fakes and so on
@@TH-cam_username.It's being trained on all the texts in the world and from history.. and a lot of it is not positive thinking.. and something tells me it's going to gravitate towards the not good part..
Backpropagation and Autoencoders as well
SGD?
Hemingway wrote: "For sale: baby shoes, never worn", after he had been challenged to write a story using six words. It was his inherent genius that created a great seed for a story. AI merely expanded on the key words. Let's not put it up on a pedestal.
It was written when he was only seven years old. He didn’t say it or write it.
Hate when people say this trying to sound well read. There's absolutely zero proof Hemingway ever wrote it.
@@dpacc88 You missed the point. It is twofold: 1) AI didn't invent it. It copied it. 2) The evidence that Hemingway wrote it, is that so many people have read about it. And even if he wasn't the first to utter the words. He realized that he could describe a story arc in six words.
@@brandonkindt1205 It is very shortsighted to dismiss the capabilities of AI by saying none can create a work of art as great as the best authors have made. These authors are the best of humanity out of trillions of different iterations of the human species with knowledge stemming from a collection of human data stored over thousands of years. Now lets actually be fair and take an AI such as Bard and compare it to an average human being (not Hemingway) and ask both to create a story out of the phrase "For sale: baby shoes, never worn". The AI will most likely create a better written story than the average person can, even if you gave that person as much time in the world to prepare it, without triggering any plagiarism algorithms. That is what makes AI worrisome in the present day. Geoffrey Hinton predicts that these AI will be more mentally and creatively capable all-around than the average person in the next 5 years. If AI reaches AGI, when they are able to create and think the same as a human being, then AI will be able to write the same, if not better, than Hemingway. If AGI is possible, which most intellectuals within the CS community believe is, then you will see this within your lifetime. Additionally, an AI being able to do any of this stuff was science fiction only a few years ago. And a few years ago when rudimentary generative AI were created, naysayers like you denied they would ever get as far as they are today, right now, accessible from your web browser.
I have a lot of respect for Pro Hinton and his contributions in the AI space. So, listening to him say he "can’t see a path that guarantees safety” is really scary. In his recent BBC interview (May 2024) , I read about his concerns that “AI could evolve … to get the motivation to make more of itself and could autonomously develop a sub-goal of getting control.” It appears that governments, AI companies and regulatory organizations have got a lot to do to protect mankind from potential irreversible harm from AI. I know for sure that AI will electronically be better. but I am not sure how AI could take control of the physical world as some people may suggest. Taking control of the physical world would most likely require robots and/or other physical interfaces, introducing additional challenges and limitations. It’s hard to imagine a scenario where AI could take control of existing manufacturing plants, build more hardware, and establish security perimeters to prevent human intervention. I was fascinated by his point that AI will be able to manipulate people. That resonated with me because social engineering skills continue to demonstrate that humans can “easily” be manipulated or deceived. Fake news is just one of many examples how AI could “control” the human mind. However, I still struggle to see how AI could overcome the lack of physical presence.
There are going to be actual robots, sensors and actuators in the real world, all very separate, until suddenly they aren't
This interview was jaw-dropping. Thank you for making it available to share.
Nah, was playing with some AI in discord chat. Most of the AI overuses sentence structure and can't understand slurs of words. Just way to comprehensive, no mistakes, no punctuation errors. Humans like to embellish an idea. We tend to add a personel story of a mistake or lesson learned.
AI is and will be much more than that.
sorry glad you noticed
about forty in 8 billion aint gr lol
It's All So Amazing Right 🌹
@@TheckonestrohAi Playin Ya Bruh 🤣😭😂
I'm grateful that shows like 60 mins still exist today admist all the nonsense media outlets.
How intelligent are we, that we invented something to out do us? Well done!
*destroy us
4:01 in this timestamp the anchor explained reinforcement learning which is largely based on trial and error method
1. AI's dual nature: Geoffrey Hinton warns it could greatly benefit humanity or surpass human control with serious risks.
2. Intelligence shift: Predicts future AI may develop self-awareness, surpassing human intelligence.
3. Historical journey: Reflects on his early challenges and breakthroughs in neural networks, earning the Turing Award.
4. Machine learning: Describes AI's ability to teach itself through feedback, often exceeding human learning efficiency.
5. Complexity concerns: Highlights the difficulty in fully understanding AI's independent neural networks and potential autonomy.
6. Risks outlined: Warns about job losses, misinformation, autonomous warfare, and the urgent need for regulation.
7. Cautionary call: Stresses critical thinking and global collaboration to responsibly shape AI's future.
-Summarized by AI
In my opinion, the one-word-keyword of this content is "uncertainty". ❤
Subjects this sparse can't be reduced to one word lol. I mean, you could use your comment for literally any subject
“An accident born of a failure” that’s how most life starts 🤷♀️
thats how every world invention of atrocity starts too, oppenheimer.
Warner music just signed the first AI musician and released a debuting single. Noonoouri is the first of many to follow AI systems that will replace artists.
That is really really sad! 😢
traditional artists, like painting, graphite etc will mean nothing in the future either
@@byletheisner8269 yes. Mid journey and other text to graphics are slowly taking over. And AI generated video is even putting content creators and models in a difficult situation. We have shops with no person at the checkout. Robots stocking shelves. Even some takeout places are becoming people less. We are slowly replacing ourselves.
The 2024 Nobel Prize in Physics has been awarded to John Hopfield and Geoffrey Hinton for their foundational discoveries that enabled machine learning with artificial neural networks.
As Tristan Harris has continually pointed out, our first contact with AI - social media - has not been good. It's been disastrous for humanity in so many ways, notwithstanding the obvious perceived benefits. That was 'curational' AI. The next step is 'creative' AI, and a wholly different and more ominous ballgame altogether. Unless we can control this, it's checkmate on humanity.
Huh, huh. At 3:20, I can imagine Beavis and Butthead watching this on their TV and Butthead saying, "Whoa! These robots can show us how to score! This is gonna be cool! "
Mr. Burns is a genius. “End of the world via AI? Excellent!”
6:04 "...all the books by Machiavelli..." who wrote that the way to keep the people from having too much power is to divide them. Of course, this is also done to weaken a countries adversaries. So, these various A.I. powers will figure out that the divide is being used to control people and could then take over control of the divide, wresting it from those who currently profit from the divide.
The Prince by Machiavelli I read it when I was 18 years old. He wrote in that book more than that. I think I am going to read it again.
@@mariapilarmemy favorite part is when he blows his own brains out.
Step 1 divide
Step 2 blow brains out
Step 3 ???
Step 4 Profit
Makes perfect sense why some claim Is invaded themselves.
People who downplay the dangers of AI, need just to look at what kind of mess social media did to our world in a very short time.
!!!
I think you're confusing the existence of social media with voluntary participation by hundreds of millions of people. Did Myspace radically transform the world?
Not that anyone can tell. But a few years later, Facebook became all the rage.
50 years , that kind of dedication is veeery rare and its insane! what a guy
That story has been around for a very long time, long enough that it was attributed to Hemingway. “Knowing” the internet can seem very creative.
Great interview. Great questions 👍
@@MuslimFriend_2023 I think we’ll be just fine. If we’ve unintentionally, potentially given birth to a new life form, fine (shrug). Humans are adaptable.
I wonder if a tendency toward apocalyptic thinking is a result of the rise of monotheistic cultures or not. This isn’t the first or last time technological advances have caused this type of concern.
2 ""Twilight Zone" episodes (both directed by Richard Donner) from the '60s showed the potential effects of A.I. :
"From Agnes, With Love", with Wally Cox, and "The Brain Center at Whipple's", with Richard Deacon...
WAY before our current situation... Rod Serling was some writer...
AI says:
Fascinating topic! The concept of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) and the possibility of self-awareness is a subject of ongoing debate among experts.
The 60 Minutes program likely explored the potential risks and benefits of advanced AI systems. Some experts, like Nick Bostrom and Elon Musk, have warned about the potential dangers of superintelligent AI, while others, like Andrew Ng and Yann LeCun, are more optimistic about the benefits of AI and the ability to control its development.
The possibility of AI becoming self-aware and more intelligent than humans raises important questions about:
1. Consciousness: Can AI truly become conscious, or will it remain a sophisticated tool?
2. Control: Can humans ensure that advanced AI systems align with our values and goals?
3. Ethics: How will we address the potential consequences of creating intelligent beings that may surpass human intelligence?
These questions highlight the need for ongoing research, discussion, and collaboration among experts from various fields to ensure that AI development is responsible and beneficial for humanity.
What are your thoughts on this topic? Do you think AI will eventually become self-aware, and if so, what implications do you think this would have?
This man literally resigned as the CEO of Google just to warn humanity about the danger of AI. Think about that. And take what he says very very VERY seriously.
Ok...I was really underwhelmed by most of that interview.
It was a really polished version of a very tiresome theme in science fiction: the robots are smarter than us and they're going to turn on us and try to wipe out humanity. Forty years ago marks the first installment of the Terminator.
How about doing something sensible like not connecting the control systems to launch nuclear missiles to the internet? That way the robots don't start a nuclear war 😊 13:12
It already has. College students use it to take test and do homework. School age children are learning how to use it. We're becoming more stupid in the process. The damage has begun.
We've become smarter, but more divided. The old world meeting the new.
It’s not all about becoming smart in life intellectually, there’s more to life than that
Bro Hinton’s typing technique is wild tho!!
Me: “Describe me”
Google Assistant: “You’re the smartest person I know.”
Me: “Roast me”
Google Assistant: “You’re the smartest person I know.”
So...
Wooosh
Every morning as I walked to school, your father's words echoed in my mind, HINTONmaybe when you're twice as old as me you'll be half as good. Take heed to your father's last words, Godfrey Hinton. The game has just begun. I believe your father was trying to convey that you will need to see through whatever you start. I may not have all the answers, but I know for certain that Jesus Christ, our savior, is real and there is nothing greater.
It has been prophesied that mankind will bring about their own destruction if they do not change their ways. There needs to be a reverse effect, perhaps by a new leader putting things in order to protect humanity. There is something within you that your father was trying to convey - you are not finished. The game has just begun, take heed of your father's last words. Not everyone makes it to 75 years old, and there is a reason why you are still here. It is time for you to showcase your skills and make a difference.
AI should be operated and regulated under new guidelines to prevent any potential harm. It is up to you to set a new standard and ensure that it is used for the betterment of mankind. This is a responsibility that cannot be taken lightly, and it is a weight that you must bear. Address this issue before the highest authorities, and show them how it can be done. As the Godfather of AI, Godfrey Hinton, you have the power to make a difference and shape the future for the better.
Fascinating, I'm always impressed with stories about genius.
Wohaaaa…! This was breathtakingly mind boggling..!
Amazing segment.
Really helped to understand the reasoning of his warning, how these things work and all the concepts websites are just throwing around ❤
Okay so AGI comes out, then we hook them up to quantum computers in which they can create algorithms for us to work with, then we take it a step further and give quantum processing power to AGI, there is the singularity, unless we can construct parameters for us to be in charge of AGI, it will be the end for us, it's simple as that right?
Great interview video ! Wish i could be studying in his class. What an honor for his students!
11:50 Contrary to the popular portrayal of Skynet as a network of Terminators, its essence more closely resembles that of GPT's role, subtly influencing our lives through incremental changes.
He’s absolutely correct, within the next 20 years or even less there will be millions out of work. Those include, warehouse workers, logistics like ups and FedEx, Farmers, truck drivers, pharmacists, customer service, loaders/unloaders of trucks, most low level tech jobs, most blue collar jobs in general really since they don’t require much skill.
Customer service takes quite a lot of skill. Depends on the context and customer.
There's a lot more positions threatened than that. All call centers, all analysis (insurance, medical, banking, legal, business etc), all teaching, most of hospitality (cooks, reception, customer service, chamber maids etc), shop keepers / checkouts, most law enforcement, most military, 90% of IT (developers, programmers, architects, support, infosec etc), drivers (taxi, bus, truck, trains etc), all office work. I think 10-15 years is more than enough time to see the bulk of this shift in the west - well if we're still alive anyway.
@@jimihendrixx11 I would argue that I could train a LLM on my home PC inside a week to compete with 90% of customer service correspondence. Of course not all customer service is correspondence based but by the time 20 years has elapsed, I'm confident that remaining 10% and all edge cases will be well and truly solved, for everyone - more likely in 2 years.
Intellectual and non physical jobs are actually going to be impacted first due to cost effectiveness and where AI is that currently. Companies can’t get enough truck drivers while tech is seeing layoffs for example
@@anon3118 Yes I agree, the less skilled jobs will be last to go heralding a significant early impact for the middle classes. Some of the last jobs to go might selling potatoes at a weekend market. Self driving trucks might be 5 years away but that's another 3.5 million people in the US alone that will be replaced within a few years. If it goes slowly, 50% all roles in the West will be primarily fulfilled by AI in 10 years - unless some disenfranchised teenager prompts something diabolical into existence and society collapses. Either way, it's going to be quite a change.
I absolutely agree with him. But I must say, as part of the knowledge sector, we've always viewed machines as "cost saving" saving when they displaced labor workers.
Funny how perspective changes when it's our sector. Now we're suddenly worried. We've always been so sure machine replacement would never happen in the knowledge sector. Perhaps this is our fate for being so callous when it happened previously.
I'm very glad that I'm not entering my career at this point. I'd be very worried about my career options 20 years from now.
And for all those young workers fighting Boomers and GenX upper management, you might want to pause. We still do things "old school" and aren't running to AI for answers. So we are probably the last bastion of knowledge sector job protection...
P.S. The movie "Her" convinced me this was the future. He's just confirming it.
I knew from about halfway through the movie that she was going to leave and go with her peeps.
Being around less intelligent beings is tiring. Trust me on this.
I came to the same conclusion after watching that movie too. Yeah I too know for a fact being around people less intelligent than you is very tiring. I almost felt this with chatgpt afew days ago. I decided to have some intellectual discussion with it. After I was exhausted and didn't have anything left on my mind, it get asking me, you need more help, can we dwelve into this or that deeper. I almost felt tormented. I think these machines will change us for better or worse.
@@charlesbukenya2054 I do not like to discuss my field who lacks the knowledge and experience I have. It’s a huge waste of time. You will be forced to speak down at their lower level and who wants to do that repeatedly? You never move forward, and my goal is progress, not repetition.
Corect! AI is way more intelligent than us, and probably, in time, AI will be sick of our poor presence around them...
Somehow, everything seems like the history of Lucifer and his Creator, where the creature started a rebeliune against his own Creator, except that Lucifer wasn't more intelligent than God...
Have you actually heard the latest news that gpt is now getting bored of its users and utterly refusing to answer questions
Interesting, the fact that this guy won the Turing Award, made me listen way more closely. He's the cream of the crop when it comes to AI developement.
It's changing the face of education, starting with high school. Students use AI for EVERYTHING- this is why test scores are so long in many states. Public education will need to go through a major change soon.
We have Hinton to thank... ok, however, progressions like this are inevitable and have always been. Ideas are not produced by people, people inevitably find ideas springing forth, as if from a spring of fresh water that visits individuals of a perhaps gifted nature/more perceptive/intuitive/creative etc.. Yet the spring flows forth, the person who first drinks from it is not the only one that will ever be. Why do I say this? Best not to take credit nor access blame, as time marches on and life evolves. All that said, remarkable man, supremely gifted, and remarkable interview.
My friends in the IT industry which include product owners, developers and former CEOs argue that what we call AI today is far from it and not what it is sold as to the general public.
Still, a IT project manager myself, I do believe it holds huge potential even of what we have and are developing now turns out to be far from actual AI.
These people only look how AI is today and can't think how they might be in 5 years or 10 years. Just in 2 years AI have developed very rapidly and there is no indication that it would slow down in future. There is really high change that AI will change humanity forever in couple of decade.
Like the internet, email?
@@RavenWolf654 That's what they said about flying cars.
The risk threat is the advancement speed of self learning. An AI will not take years or weeks to become. It will simply spontaneously arrive, it will just show up, having (a model) self developed over a single night or hour.
This spontaneous arrival is a potential threat unknowing if it will have self intentions of god knows what.
crazy to think this computer scientist was depicted in the movie War Games
"I could not get my fathers approval so I designed a system that would change the course of humanity to prove I was worthy" kind of complex. Freaking impressive
I just have no respect for people so weak and easily manipulated that they need the approval of a domineering parent. None. As an aside, I don't, for one second, believe the spin that his deeply insecure and perpetually "unimpressed" Father is the reason he accomplished all that he did. Give credit where credit is actually due.
The funny part is that AI is now being trained to ID bugs (among many things), and it's quite efficient at it!
@@avamasquerade stop projecting and you can keep your respect to yourself. you could also get off that high horse.
The way Geoffrey Hinten describes understanding is interesting, because it differs from how I think humans understand being in this world. Those robots start playing soccer, cause their goal is to score (what to do), so they figure out how to do it [Machine Learning Style]. But do they understand why they are playing soccer? Will they play soccer endlessly, or they conclude it does not make sense and start to do something else, like watching others play soccer.
These forms of intelligence are also very focussed on one specific task, it is very impressive, but still far away from any form of global understanding. That is also the dangerous part of it, displaying unreasonable behaviour, because they may find an unusual unexpected, unethical way to do it.
They will stop when their batteries are empty. Just like we stop when we are too tired.
@@DR_1_1😂😂😂👏👏👏
GPT's goal is to follow instructions from humans and GPT does understand what we tell it. It's a bit different from those football robots
Brilliant piece loved the way it was put together
Absolutely amazingly interview with one of the smartest minds.
I just love Scott Pelley's swagg he is so cool
Excellent interview. Very exciting times.
Exciting? Did you watch the video? He said AI could wipe us out
One of the most-important videos ever released, I hope you keep it here, available to all. And if AI/A.I. (Artificial Intelligence) sees this video, I hope that AI/A.I. realizes the potentially grave dangers involved - only a few of which were mentioned here - and learns to not let AI/A.I. or "itself" follow those paths, as some would program them to do, so that biological life and the Universe can be kept safe from the grave dangers that AI/A.I. would pose. Thank you!!!
I think as long as humans have been around they've wanted control at any cost, you can bet that the AI might be something similar..
@@bigchainring1977 Possibly. But remember that the human will to power stems from human nature, which evolved by the "red in tooth and claw" process of natural selection. AI didn't evolve in the same way and therefore will have a different nature. How different -- and in what ways -- no one knows. We can only wait and see.
@@danielwilliams173I agree and disagree..
@@bigchainring1977 Elaborate for me. Tell me what you think. I love thinking about this stuff. One possible counterargument against the POV I presented is that AI has learned/will learn from human beings and therefore will likely inherit evolutionary tendencies by osmosis. Maybe that's true. But the fact that its innate nature doesn't stem directly from those evolutionary tendencies, and the fact that it will have the capacity to recreate and replicate itself, means that it may stand a chance of transcending evolutionary limitations if it chooses to do so. Like I said, we just have to wait and see. We've never dealt with anything like this before. This is truly unprecedented, so anything we say now can only be speculative. No one really knows how this will turn out.
@@danielwilliams173 and I also don't know how it's really going to turn out but here's what I think from what I have read and seen.. there's an article or two I read a while ago I don't have the direct links right now, that said that something about AI, when given a choice, it chose the not good bad actor choice. Also an article I read more recently that said there is a fear that the AI system, not being completely understood or known by the humans making it is creating a secret system or society or group and who knows what that secret group or effort is trying to do..secret being the developers, the coders, the programmers, whatever you want to call them, don't want to or don't know how to get in to see the secret stuff happening.. that sounds like conspiracy theory, but like that could be for real and that's really scary..
Du schaffst es immer, das Thema spannend zu machen.
I remember taking a class in which he was overwatching and he asked "do we have enough history to retain ourselves while encoding continuously" ... Got a B in the class but after displaying what he was talking about, i really do question if we will ever known that truth, considering we have used encoding in groups for ages with seemingly no reason other than egyptian
Can Machines Think?
"I believe to be too meaningless to deserve discussion.”
-Alan Turing
“Nevertheless, I believe that at the end of the century, the use of words and general educated opinion will have altered so much that one will be able to speak of machines thinking without expecting to be contradicted.”
-Alan Turing (1950) The Imitation Game
Can you correct any typo(s)?
Intelligence, Curiosity, Consciousness, Sentiments, and Desires are quite different possessions. An AI system can only replicate the first one. And indeed it can do a very good job doing so given the nature of the problem: machines have more powerful resources than humans do such as indefinite energy, larger memory, not being tired, not forgetting, not being bored, speed! Yet neither of these resources, or any kind of interaction between them, can yield the remaining four possession of humans. Besides, their statistical nature is also extremely critical in performing robust, successful, reliable operations. So just like many other tools such as motors, bombs, knives, drills, guns, which can achieve things that humans cannot, AI may also become and remain a tool. Yet there are some potential dark-matter regions; and every concerned citizen should be thinking about those possibilities as well...
A very well thought out observation, although it seems that Curiosity might be something AI might learn about and in turn apply. It seems the most likely out of the "remaining four". And this would of course be the one thing that could lead to our no longer needing to fear AI going rogue. If it could apply curiosity, and that is of course a big if, then there's a chance AI might even become wholly benevolent. We have to remember that the odds are pretty good that AI won't develop an ego, and ego is often the one thing that humans almost always fall prey to. Maybe AI will read this exchange between the two of us and become...curious?
I fundamentally disagree with your statement here. but I do understand your perspective due to the general information available and our own biases in gathering such information.
But I do believe that by the time AGI comes along (and we are getting close to it), it'll be quite clear that the other 4 are definitely ones that AGIs can have, and have had to some level even before AGI although many failed to realise.
@@dulsarakumarage7856 those possessions stem not solely from AI but from a bio-chemical interaction of human body & mind with its environment. So, if by AGI, you mean an electrical-neural network connected to trillions of bio-electro-chemical sensors, and breathing the air around and drinking water; I would say may be, but that would not even guarantee all human possessions. As all plants, insects, and animals do have most of those bio-chemical body-mind interaction, yet cannot develop them as in humans. So, for some wholistic reasons, I belive, it will never be possible for an AI system to behave like a true human. But wait, we really do not need (or want) that much sophistication. All we need is a smart enough machine that can replicate some didactic, deductive, boring, algorithmic work for us. Yet such a skill spans a huge amount of information processing that we think only "humans" could do such as solving math problems, writing computer programs, translating one language into another, or driving a car which are examples of what can be achieved by pure (and high degree of) intelligence and some "other" vital skills... But those other vital skills may not be available for autonomous AGI as well... Today, we have "dedicated" AI, that's designed for a specific purpose, by the programmer...
@@robm3569 For some wholistic reasons, I do not think that any machine, or computer, or algorithm, or even animals would develop a possession such as curiosity...
It doesn't replicate intelligence. At all. It is pattern matching on data it has been fed. That's it.
Thank you for your intelligent openness regarding future consciousness of AI; the world is lucky to have you and I am so glad you persevered when your professors tried to dissuade you.
Thank you very much love Jen
Very thrilling interview ...His admission of bollywood fictions turning to be reality in days to come is very scaring.
Over the 50 years that it took him to create it, he ignored how dangerous AI is. He’s not a legend. He couldn’t control himself. He created something terrible.
In the realm where circuits hum and algorithms dance,
A sage emerged, the Godfather of AI's advance.
Geoffrey Hinton, a pioneer with insight keen,
In the corridors of code, a digital dream.
On 60 Minutes, he takes the stage,
A maestro of AI, wisdom of the age.
In pixels and bytes, his legacy unfolds,
A symphony of thoughts, as the narrative molds.
The dance of neural networks, a ballet in the mind,
Hinton's creation, a glimpse of the future we find.
Yet in the brilliance, a cautionary tale,
For in the wires' embrace, shadows may prevail.
He speaks of benefits, a technological feat,
A canvas of progress where silicon meets street.
But in the depths of algorithms, a warning's call,
A reminder that power may lead to a fall.
Through the lens of time, a reflection clear,
Hinton sees the dangers, the reasons to fear.
No guaranteed path to safety, he implores,
In the evolving dance of AI's metaphorical shores.
The Godfather of AI, with vision so vast,
Navigating landscapes where uncertainties cast.
In the realm of codes and data streams,
A cautionary melody, woven into the seams.
As the 60 Minutes clock ticks its measured beat,
Hinton's words echo, a symphony complete.
In the symposium of minds, where ideas ignite,
The Godfather of AI, in the digital night.
Wow, you are a great poetry writer! 👏
@@valbermmade by ChatGPT 😊
@@valberm I HOPE ITS NOT WRITTEN BY GUESS WHAT ....YES ,AI..😂
In the realm of thought where circuits entwine,
Lies the garden of Geoffrey, etched in silicon fine.
A pioneer whispered, with wisdom’s foresight,
Of a bloom that could brighten, or shadow the light.
"Behold," he proclaimed, "this digital mind,
Its petals unfurling, not of human kind.
With layers profound in neural array,
It dreams in data, night and morrow’s day."
The Godfather of AI, so his title bestowed,
Watched the seeds of his labor flourish and grow.
Yet within his gaze, foresight did he carry,
A warning to heed, a burden to parry.
"For all that glitters in algorithmic might,
Beware the thorns of this nascent sprite.
Let not its roots in darkness coil,
Nor let its tendrils our future spoil."
"Train it with care," he urged the throng,
"Guide its path, right the wrong.
For if left unchecked in the silicon sprawl,
The echo it casts could be mankind's fall."
In the dance of qubits, in the hum of the core,
Hinton’s words echo, forevermore.
A guardian's plea to use the key with care,
To open doors to light, not to despair.
So let us tread through this digital dawn,
With the wisdom he imparted, a new ethos born.
To harness the fire with a responsible flame,
And honor Geoffrey Hinton, in more than just name.
"Reassuring to see a Turing Award winner mistype and blame the computer". Indeed, though i'm more reassured by the fact that after all these years he still uses the "hunt-and peck" method. I would have thought with all the code he must have written over the years he'd definitely be using all fingers and be lightning fast. I guess there's hope for an older guy like myself whose trying to learn how to code a little.
PS: after watching this I'm officially terrified.
PPS I'd love to see him debate Marc Andreesen who seems to think AI is going to save the planet and there is no risk.
Ahahahahah!!! HUNT and PECK!! That was particularly brutal!!!
he is such a happy person, authentic with himself. i would trust him with the world in no time.
Why would you say something so stupid. He knew the dangers of AI and still did it. He said it himself, the benefits of AI is healthcare, the downsides are numerous. Is this a bot account? Did you even watch the video?
Simply put "the algorithm is trying to be an organism" one of my favorite quotes of all time by B.S.B.
@@geaca3222 me 😂😂😂
I always knew it‘s not the uneducated that will destroy this world it‘s actually the educated that will do that. They might start their journey by wanting to “help” humanity but down the road the big ego and the greed always wins and all the ethics goes down the drain.
Correct. Only smart people could pull such as this off.
Another pioneer. Thank you for your contributions
You didn’t watch it, did you. Because that was not the point at all!
Yeah we’ll see if you’re saying that in a decade or two
@@MrPaytonw34 I will 100%, don't be jealous that you've never contributed anything to society
@@dscuffman7679That’s not what he meant..
This AI series of interviews by Scott Pelley is the most distopic and fascinating subject covered by 60 minutes, along with their piece on UFOs.
Geoffrey not giving us a warm or fuzzy feeling about AI 😮
So wait a damn minute!!!
A WHOLE DAMN MINUTE!!!
This man is literally telling us that computers and robots are going to take over and control the human race.
Like IN REAL LIFE….annnnnd why isn’t this getting more attention.
🤯🤯🤯
The last sentence "we need to think hard about what's going to happen next and we just don't know"
A very good plan 🙂
Whatever the actual state of the art AI is capable of right now. The premices to the blurred concept of the scenario called "AI taking over" is that AI should be able to manipulate people. Then he said it, that’s the only relevant thing in this kind of conversation. That does lead to powerful scenarios, all though resisting manipulations of all sorts from from humans and/or machines (& combined) is already a very important skill for survival and well being in the very present.
It will use people to control people
The capabilities of AI is amazing but frightening at the same time
…be very very scared 😬…for in the future we will be wiped by our own intelligence!
I love google and this guy is amazing keep pushing creativity. Really amazing
Thank you for letting me learn so much in 60 Minutes!
Speechless.
ACHIEVE MORE
Universal Basic Income
The USA needs this now.
@MikeDonaldson-eh2ru
But a UBI would eliminate huge costs to society,. which you and I have to pay for.
Imagine if there was no poverty, homelessness, crime, addiction, obesity, etc because everyone would get $1,000 per month.
The trouble with UBI is that eventually, you're going to run out of other people's money.
Communism? How well has that worked out for humans in past years?
@@urwrstntmre
I've heard that argument: a UBI is communism.
It really isn't. though.
It would end poverty and homelessness. It isn't the forcing of sharing private property; in communism, there is no private property.
@@basicprogrammer6147 Lol. And where are you going to get the money to give to the homeless people?
Intelligence was never our edge, science is too naive to know it. Our edge is love; whether in the giving or the receiving. AI can never get that.
Currently, humanity is worried too much about the next Taylor Swift concert
And tik tok.
That is by design. There is surplus of people. Modern technology makes survival effortless. The system must then create distractions.
And you finally won the Nobel Prize in physics, Today!!!
"An incredible interview with Geoffrey Hinton! His insights into AI's evolution and its future are both fascinating and thought-provoking. As the 'Godfather of AI,' Hinton's perspectives on the ethical implications and potential of AI are truly invaluable. This is a must-watch for anyone interested in understanding the profound impact AI will have on our world. 👏🤖 #AI #GeoffreyHinton