One of your best videos Chris. Thanks so much. I’ve been working on holding my “back to the target” and with this exercise I’m feeling very comfortable. The combinations are coming together nicely. Love your work.
From South Africa here. I’ve watched so many videos trying to fix my swing, this is definitely the one, absolutely Godsent, I’ve saved it and shared with my friends
Been really enjoying your latest videos, fantastic instruction and something which really aligns with some of the other great instructors such as AMG and Monte! However I feel this one is on a different track to the recent set and a little at odds with what you've been teaching. Getting the body rotated before the arms move in the backswing is likely to get the arms raising late and likely then trailing the pivot on the way down isn't it? The previous videos were about firing the arms down to get them synced up. I'm not qualified to judge but it's somewhat of a polar opposite approach and maybe suited to a different individual. Great content none the less!
Hey Dan, this is a valid point and someone else has raised this too in the comments, I’ll try and explain. The most common sequence amount good players is the lower behind the downswing and the arms move last, generally the most desired pattern. For so many that slice, get steep, over the top etc the arms stay pinned to the upper body for too long, when they finally fire the arms it’s way out of sync. For those golfers, and there are a large number, telling them to hold the body at the top and fire the arms down first is likely going to be the best thing for them to focus on, I actually gave this exact lesson this morning with exactly the results we wanted…. If we measured these golfers 3D its very very unlikely that is what would be happening, even though they feel the arms start it’s likely to be the body, which is correct. Some may disagree, but I believe my job as a coach is to say what needs to be said to get the results both myself and the student want, and sometimes that’s in the form of concepts and ideas which maybe aren’t 100% true. I really should convey these messages within the videos however when in the past I have tried to do this the viewers turn off, the views drop and TH-cam doesn’t touch the videos, unfortunately not the way I would like to to be Hope that makes sense and you make a great point
@@ChrisRyanGolf thanks for taking the time to write such a considered response! I definitely fall into the latter category as a 12 cap playing like a 30 cap at the moment with a tendency to come OTT and/or suffer with bouts of poor contact. Your previous video covering the three elements of the downswing is gold for my pattern and probably one of the best articulations I've seen. Do you offer virtual lessons?
Thanks Chris… although I haven’t had the time to practice (I know) but my trusty drives have been hooking and I’ve been struggling to understand why. I think this is it and need to get back on the driving range to prove it. Keep up the great work… it is appreciated 👍
I love this! It's exactly what I've been working on. I've been using your video with the step drill to help my transition (and it has), but this feels like the missing part.
@@ChrisRyanGolf Have you done any lessons on (I'm not even sure how to put it)... a lot of drills and practice swing movements seem to fall apart once you put a ball down for some reason. (especially with my driver)
Hi Chris, Just want to say thanks for your consistently informative golf videos. I'm a pretty good golfer (play off 7) but have always been a very 'clean' striker of the ball so I don't leave a lot of room for error. Over the past couple of months I have been working hard (using the Fatplate aid) to be a little more steeper into the ball. Your video drills that focus on encouraging this particular type of swing plane have been a real help, so thank you. 👍
You've got some great videos. I just find some advice contradictory. That wide takeaway you demonstrated that some pros have seems to contradictor the keep your trail bicep attached to the peck and fold the trail arm. The don't start the downswing with the arms seems to contradict all the advice on how to correct the slice, specifically waiting to long to swing down causes the over the top path. This was a slightly confusing video as it relates to some of the others. Do you start the downswing with the arms or do you start by turning your body?
Hey Jack, the downswing should start from the ground up, so lower body and that is the case for almost all great golfers. The fairly recent slice fix video where I referred to my brother in law was specifically talking about getting the arms firing from the top, think that’s the one you refer to, I actually gave a lesson this morning with that exact concept. Those videos, I guess, would help most of those who are steep, but firing the arms first is the concept, feel rather than the reality. Many slicers simply need to use the arms earlier, but they would rarely start the downswing. Can 100% see how these may contradict and be conflicting, maybe I need to convey these messages more in the videos. As a fairly experienced coach I feel that I have a decent understanding doing of what to say to certain groups of golfers to get the results we both want, such and hold the upper body and fire the arms, but the reality is that I know that won’t happen at full speed, but I see my job as to get results rather than always give 100% accurate info, that may be different to other coach. Apologies for the long answer but you do raise a great point
I believe the body should move, and control, the clubhead. Am I wrong? (This is not saying that I do not have lapses during which I move the clubhead too early.)
I didn't realise I'd become so handsy. Letting the body swing the club rather the other way around has suddenly made everything better, especially bunker shots. Who knew?
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This video is pure gold! If you are like me as a 6th year senior at TH-cam University. This is the one.
Thanks appreciate that 🙌
One of your best videos Chris. Thanks so much. I’ve been working on holding my “back to the target” and with this exercise I’m feeling very comfortable. The combinations are coming together nicely. Love your work.
Thanks so much 🙌
From South Africa here. I’ve watched so many videos trying to fix my swing, this is definitely the one, absolutely Godsent, I’ve saved it and shared with my friends
Thanks so much and hope it helps
Been really enjoying your latest videos, fantastic instruction and something which really aligns with some of the other great instructors such as AMG and Monte! However I feel this one is on a different track to the recent set and a little at odds with what you've been teaching. Getting the body rotated before the arms move in the backswing is likely to get the arms raising late and likely then trailing the pivot on the way down isn't it? The previous videos were about firing the arms down to get them synced up. I'm not qualified to judge but it's somewhat of a polar opposite approach and maybe suited to a different individual. Great content none the less!
Also a bit puzzled. At the top drop the arms and turn or turn and drop the arms?
Hey Dan, this is a valid point and someone else has raised this too in the comments, I’ll try and explain.
The most common sequence amount good players is the lower behind the downswing and the arms move last, generally the most desired pattern.
For so many that slice, get steep, over the top etc the arms stay pinned to the upper body for too long, when they finally fire the arms it’s way out of sync. For those golfers, and there are a large number, telling them to hold the body at the top and fire the arms down first is likely going to be the best thing for them to focus on, I actually gave this exact lesson this morning with exactly the results we wanted…. If we measured these golfers 3D its very very unlikely that is what would be happening, even though they feel the arms start it’s likely to be the body, which is correct. Some may disagree, but I believe my job as a coach is to say what needs to be said to get the results both myself and the student want, and sometimes that’s in the form of concepts and ideas which maybe aren’t 100% true. I really should convey these messages within the videos however when in the past I have tried to do this the viewers turn off, the views drop and TH-cam doesn’t touch the videos, unfortunately not the way I would like to to be
Hope that makes sense and you make a great point
@@ChrisRyanGolf thanks for taking the time to write such a considered response! I definitely fall into the latter category as a 12 cap playing like a 30 cap at the moment with a tendency to come OTT and/or suffer with bouts of poor contact. Your previous video covering the three elements of the downswing is gold for my pattern and probably one of the best articulations I've seen. Do you offer virtual lessons?
Thanks Chris… although I haven’t had the time to practice (I know) but my trusty drives have been hooking and I’ve been struggling to understand why. I think this is it and need to get back on the driving range to prove it. Keep up the great work… it is appreciated 👍
Hope it helps
I love this! It's exactly what I've been working on. I've been using your video with the step drill to help my transition (and it has), but this feels like the missing part.
Yeah those two work really well together actually! 🙌
@@ChrisRyanGolf Have you done any lessons on (I'm not even sure how to put it)... a lot of drills and practice swing movements seem to fall apart once you put a ball down for some reason. (especially with my driver)
Genius explanation. Thank you for this!
Thanks 🙌
Well done Chris Great video 😊
Thanks
Great video … thnx!!
Thanks
Hi Chris, Just want to say thanks for your consistently informative golf videos. I'm a pretty good golfer (play off 7) but have always been a very 'clean' striker of the ball so I don't leave a lot of room for error. Over the past couple of months I have been working hard (using the Fatplate aid) to be a little more steeper into the ball. Your video drills that focus on encouraging this particular type of swing plane have been a real help, so thank you. 👍
Thanks Bobby, the FatPlate is brilliant for strike so should work well
You've got some great videos. I just find some advice contradictory. That wide takeaway you demonstrated that some pros have seems to contradictor the keep your trail bicep attached to the peck and fold the trail arm. The don't start the downswing with the arms seems to contradict all the advice on how to correct the slice, specifically waiting to long to swing down causes the over the top path. This was a slightly confusing video as it relates to some of the others. Do you start the downswing with the arms or do you start by turning your body?
Hey Jack, the downswing should start from the ground up, so lower body and that is the case for almost all great golfers. The fairly recent slice fix video where I referred to my brother in law was specifically talking about getting the arms firing from the top, think that’s the one you refer to, I actually gave a lesson this morning with that exact concept. Those videos, I guess, would help most of those who are steep, but firing the arms first is the concept, feel rather than the reality. Many slicers simply need to use the arms earlier, but they would rarely start the downswing.
Can 100% see how these may contradict and be conflicting, maybe I need to convey these messages more in the videos. As a fairly experienced coach I feel that I have a decent understanding doing of what to say to certain groups of golfers to get the results we both want, such and hold the upper body and fire the arms, but the reality is that I know that won’t happen at full speed, but I see my job as to get results rather than always give 100% accurate info, that may be different to other coach.
Apologies for the long answer but you do raise a great point
@ChrisRyanGolf Makes sense, thanks for responding have a great day.
I believe the body should move, and control, the clubhead. Am I wrong? (This is not saying that I do not have lapses during which I move the clubhead too early.)
That’s exactly how I would see it, so spot on 🙌
I didn't realise I'd become so handsy. Letting the body swing the club rather the other way around has suddenly made everything better, especially bunker shots. Who knew?
I always have it that my body leads the club.
Perfect 🙌
Back nine, body tired, refused to finish first, trouble starts
First