I’ve quit and returned a few times. Best recommendation is keep your mana base: fetches, shocks, even check lands. Those are always the first things to buy again. I’ve never regretted selling a card that ended up being valuable like Parallel Lives or Yawgmoth, but I always regret getting rid of a solid mana base.
I'll disagree with this statement as a 30 year player. Only keep unlimited dual lands or alpha/beta. Revised duals are definitely in stock everywhere. Including foreign ones. Keep only high VALUE RL! If you choose to possibly come back. Non-RL LANDS will always be reprinted...
I liked what you were saying about the financial aspect, and I think there's another good point in there: You might be saying now "I wish I'd kept that dual land that I sold for $50 when today it's $700," but the $50 when you _really_ need it is worth a lot more than $700 when you're doing just fine.
I can attest to this, when my sons were babies I sold a lot of my old GBA games when we needed cash. $50 was a life saver when you're running low on diapers and formula.
This was incredibly serious and positive. I think most people will read the title and think it's a sarcastic satirical video and skip it, but they shouldn't. This really ties into how any hobby fits into your life.
I've never played Magic but this helped me leave Yugioh, or maybe not check in with me in a month. But it's so powerful to hear a genuine video from someone saying "I understand" about such an odd semi-niche hobby that I always feel like I'll never hear that sentiment from most players.
I think one of the best aspect of these hobbies is the ability to cultivate community and I have been lucky enough to be a part of several awesome groups of people. If I can pass on even a fraction of that experience to others I’ve achieved what I set out to do. I stepped away from YuGiOh with the advent of fire king and haven’t felt the need to come back yet. Goat format scratches that itch for now. Maybe give Magic a try!
This is incredibly wholesome. I haven't played in a few years but I'm still holding onto some commander decks because I've quit and come back before but I think I might need to downsize. Thank you for the advice.
I essentially quit due to my two casual playgroups for their own reasons on an individual level quitting. I tried to find new groups to play Magic with and it just seemed from that point forward all people wanted to play was Standard Format or Commander Format and the few that were willing to play casually have played since the beginning and would have decks that won the game turn 2 or 3. Miss the old days of going to a friend's house and casually playing in their living room or basement, having long, but enjoyable games, for the most part playing with what we had (We disallowed the Un-Set cards outside of basic lands as we had a player who tried to be cheaty with Letterbomb)
It's really hard to find casual classic magic that is true. I remember the days of 12 person pods in some guys garage. With the accessibility of cards, people have moved towards just playing pauper or whatever just to bound the power levels. Maybe put together a few decks and lend them out to get things started. Something with powerful cards that do stupid stuff or weak cards that do crazy combos. Show people the beauty of casual and then they might start building their own.
Magic helped me alot. My life imploded during covid, a series of horrible events left me in pieces. The only moments in which I socialized were the ones at the draft or sealed at the local store.
@@TheFirstJake Of course, and this line of thought goes hand in hand with: Buying magic cards from your LGS is about the worst way to support them, their margin on sealed product is insulting. Buy their accessories, buy their snacks, pay them flat rate to rent their table space, and for the love of all that is moral in this world, proxy all MTG.
@@theravenone3439 Every LGS within range of where I live has been dropping their MTG stock month by month. Used to take up as much as 50% of the card game shelf space, now it's less than 20% in most stores, around 10% in the biggest one. Pokemon and Lorcana now have the most stock, followed by (bizarrely) Yugioh. MTG and Weiss Schwarz are about tied. It's really nice to see LGS less reliant on MTG.
Using proxies isn't any different than pay to win. When you can make any card you want, why not just load all the best cards for the deck you're making? It has nothing to do with skill or the ability to build a deck; proxies is finding the best deck list online, printing it off and sleeving it up to roflstomp your play group.
Ive helped several people quite mtg with my own method. Land destruction, counter spells, and infinite loops. I also helped them leave toxic friendships (im the toxic friend).
I support this video and the message. Magic doesn't feel good like it used to. Maybe product fatigue, never having the chance to appreciate a set because spoilers for the next set are released before you've even collected your pre-orders, the constant drain on finances, pulling a chase card and feeling empty rather than joy, the structural collapse from power creep...It even feels like deck building isn't as unique / personal as it once was.
i've been idly perusing the comments to this video without actually watching the video (i'm weird like that sometimes) and so many comments made me think to myself "gosh i am glad i discovered premodern"
Hey Jake, I enjoyed your video. Amusing, calming, and informative. Good job dude. The pace of products these days in MTG is crazy. I used to try and keep up, but I think I got burned out. Now new products get shown by the mothership and I'm like "meh, not interested". I've become choosier. I have decided for myself that I will only buy stuff that I'm truly excited about. Otherwise, I will just buy the singles I need to keep playing the Modern format. I put together the psychic frog, Dimir Murktide Modern deck a couple weeks ago and I enjoy playing it in the new, post-MH3 meta. I wasn't sure I would like it because I don't tend to do well at control type decks, but turns out it's pretty damn good and not too complicated to run, so I'm happy. If I feel like turning my brain off at Modern night then I can always just run my backup deck - Boros Legends. I've been playing Modern since like 2017 or so.
Never seen this channel before but it’s weird that this just suddenly popped up like this. I’ve been on the fence about quitting, not because of finances or anything like that… Bit it goes kinda with your thing about the social aspect. My friends and I got into the game to have fun but about half of our group has become so hyper competitive that it just drains the fun out of the game for the other half of our group (including me). I’ve got a perfect example from just a couple days. We had played several games swapping out players and I jumped in with a brand new deck I had wanted to try out, the guy who is most certainly the worst of our power gamers asked me if it was a strong deck. I explained it was a janky, low powered, budget deck. He goes “cool, I’ll use my pet deck then” and pulls out his cEDH deck, blows everyone out of the water on turn two, tells everyone that it’s ok because he was holding back (showing us his hand and explaining how he could have won that turn if he wanted to “but that wouldn’t have been fun”), and then decides to just get it over with and win on turn four when he finally realizes the rest of the table has just completely checked out. That was the last game we played that night while everyone awkwardly put away their cards. I’ve been thinking a lot since that happened… I don’t mean to knock people who do have fun playing competitively, that’s just not how I get enjoyment out of the game. Oh, and sorry for the long message.
That's how it goes sometimes. I would say though that playing competitively is different than pubstomping. It's only playing competitively if everyone can compete. Otherwise it's just bringing a gun to a knife fight. This is a conversation that needs to happen outside the game, because I imagine it wouldn't be solved even if you brought something that was on their level. If all else fails, just shop around for a new place to play. There's a lot of people that share your perspective on fun in commander.
@@CRL888 that's called "pub stomping" and there's nothing cool about it. The people who do it are just insecure and probably don't get many wins in real life. An example of this mindset can been seen while driving: let's say you're driving along and pass someone who's stopped at a red light, because as soon as you roll up, it turns green. Then, they stomp on the gas to catch up and pass you. Smh 😑 yes, this stems from pure, deep-seated insecurity and it's the same kind of people who think pub stomping is cool. Don't worry, those kind of people will never be anyone's _true_ friend and are ultimately become their own worst punishment. Wish them the best and move on. You will find like-minded people who want to enjoy life with the people around them (rather than just using those around them for their own selfish and relativistic gratification). Anyway, you're post was not too long. Thanks for the detail. And by all means keep it playful my guy, I have MTG horror stories too, but just remember that you are proof that not everyone is like that. Put out what you want to receive ✌❤ respect
lol, thank y’all both for your support. I didn’t mean for this to become a free therapy session when I posted that yesterday ^_^;; Was just feeling down and typing out my comment seemed like the thing I needed to do to get those thoughts out of my system. Unfortunately I can’t exactly find a new place to play really because our usual hangout place is my kitchen/dining room table… However, definitely reconsidering my friendship with the guy from yesterday’s comment :/ Don’t know if that seems like extreme measures from a stranger on the internet over something as silly as a card game… But believe me when I say it’s one of those straw that breaks the camel’s back kinda situations. And I just wanted to say again, thank you both for your supportive replies.
FYI…i love the long message, you don’t need to apologize. I had this same issue in high school. The mtg crowd was overly competitive. Some of them would proxy their decks so they could have play sets of the best cards. 8/10 times I would have the lower life total when the morning bell rang. I traded to get a play set of Wellwisher. Eventually I dropped my elf deck to 40 cards to make it supper fast and always got mana in my opening hand. Finally I started winning with cheap cards against “expensive” decks. Today I know better than to rack my brain to try and win against super competitive players who think they have to win every game they play. Magic is about more than game, it’s about the community. I hope you can find a playgroup that enjoys casual play. In a casual game you can get to know the person, rather than be hyper focused on winning.
@@CRL888 EDIT: I had a typo that changed the meaning a bit (meant to write "difficult" but wrote "different") Right on, I'm sincerely happy to hear that, thank you for sharing 👊 However, one adjustment to my words could be beneficial: Everything depends on your friends age (so, the context) If you guys are teenagers, (dont tolerate disrespect, but) PLEASE be merciful towards one another. Everyone is trying to figure out life, and everything is DIFFICULT at first. With that said, you can also wish other people well from a distance. (Or, at least until barriers are established.) However, my man, if your friend is mid-twenties or above, simply put, you're not someone's scratch paper. Let them learn the hard way, just NOT at your expense, ie, far away from you. In other words, if that is the case: please re-read the original message, lol. ✌ Edit: Also, it's probably good to mention how that wasn't a bro move of him (ie, the pub stomping nonsense) before you cut the cord though 💪 BEST OF LUCK!!
The only reason i took a years long break was that my group broke up and had a tough time finding a new LGS. it feels good to be back and playing but the reasons you list are totally valid
As somebody in that transition stage from warhammer (with the community for gw falling around apart me), and getting more and more into magic. This advice is golden, even if I need to swap the word card for minis troug out the vid.
funny video to see pop up on my feed as i finish spending 2 days organizing my MTG collection and finally having time to update my decks. A couple times I thought "is this all worth it?" It is for me still, but thanks for the video
Yeah Magic is in a weird place right now. I will say the one thing that Hasbro is good at is following money. If it makes sense for them to move towards more traditional sets, they will. Time will tell where the greater playerbase wants to go.
I started in '95, just played with friends. Played some FNMs. Then I stopped. I started playing again in the early 2000's, this time super competitively. PTQs, then GPs & PTs. Then I stopped. I started up again, made a cube and drafted every week with friends. Then I stopped. This month my niece(14) started playing and wanted to play in tournaments. I am so so proud and we have been having a blast. I have never once stopped playing and then been glad that I stopped. I've regretted it every time. But you're 100% correct with the financial reasons. If you have to, you have to. (But also, potential advice: maybe never sell your lands.)
Universes Beyond is why a lot of new faces have joined the Magic community in the last few years and has been a net good to the health of the game. I still have mixed feelings, but that’s the truth.
@@TheFirstJake The truth? He's the truth: most of those "new faces" will NOT stay for very long, because by definition of the argument, they came in for a specific IP. More concerning to longtime Magic players, is the fact that *Universes Beyond will NOT stop.* After all, there's always another IP. We should consider what kind of game that would create and ask ourselves if it would even resemble MTG at that point. In the end, these "new faces" are simply here to make Hasbro money because Universes Beyond amounts to nothing more than a greedy cashgrab to satisfy corporate earnings (those must only go up btw... so what must they do to ensure packs are purchased🤔) Perhaps you're getting new subs from all the "new faces" (which makes your opinion bias btw), however please consider that this is like a sugar high or an economy boosted-up temporarily by printing money, ie, it's unsustainable. They have to keep bringing in new players to make up for those leaving (both old and new) as well as topping the previous big-selling set with a new, even larger-selling set. Only when players start to notice that their Commander decks, the ones that once identified their character and personality, have become completely different because Universes Beyond has "power crept" their decks into something they were never intended to be, will they realize that this is how Hasbro slowly butchers the goose that lays the golden eggs: by turning Commander (and Modern) into a rotating format devoid of personality and about as authentic as Disney Land. It's like idiocracy is a documentary with all the shortsightedness.
@@TheFirstJake That's not true at all. Universes Beyond has created a lot of new players, but number of players isn't the only metric of game health. By that logic, one should be endorsing shanty towns as the healthiest form of settlement because they can house a lot of people very quickly. By WOTC's own admission, these players are only expected to keep playing for an average of 18 months, which is down from the two year expected average they said a few years ago, and the game they're playing is increasingly becoming divorced from the game that older fans enjoyed. It's a Ship of Theseus problem - WOTC have switched out most of the card pool and most of the player base in the past 5 years, so is the game they have now still the same game we had 10 years ago, or is it a new ship by the same name? That's why the player count as health metric doesn't work - MTG can have as many players as it wants, but if what they're playing is universes beyond, thunder junction-style genre sets, MH3, and secret lairs, then I still can't find a good group to play with and MTG is still, to me, effectively dead.
@@munen-muso I don’t entirely disagree, because I did come to the game for the Godzilla cards and stayed for the Jurassic Park set. But I’ve stuck around for a while past that. Have a few decks that I enjoy outside of Universes Beyond. I think UB was a great way to get people interested in the game, but boy, I’m in too deep now XD
@ Jake: I Laud your efforts with this video. Your approaches were well thought out and relevant to most circumstances be it past, current or future. Great vid…..I left twice and came back. First time I left was after high school and I sold my cards then after college. I did painstakingly reacquire all the cards I liked from the first time minus 1 but I kept all the cards from college so when I came back again it didn’t take much effort to assemble a deck that relevant to the current decks. It’s all a pendulum swing with ebbs and flows depending on how the game is managed but one thing is constant and that is change. If you like the game but hate what it has become then by all means take a break but keep the cards since chances are there will be a time when it’s worth returning to or better yet if you know exactly what to change then invent a new format; never know it may take off.
Protip. Don't store valuable cards sleeved in deck boxes. Take them out so the paper can breath with the seasonal climate changes, and store them boxed with pressure on both sides, otherwise they will curl/warp.
I left the game in 2007 and came back 15 (!) years later. I left because I simply didn't had time (MSc, work, etc) and the group disbanded. I kept all my cards because I wanted to come back at some point and because most of them weren't really valuable. After a house spring cleaning in 2022 I bumped into two sleeved decks and when a friend was visiting we just played a couple of games... And we were hooked again! I got most of my play group back again - which is the best part, the gathering. The only thing I'd say for someone thinking quiting is: explore other (perhaps more casual) formats or build a cube, you don't need to spend a lot of money or keep up with all the cards coming up every month to have fun, you just need to find people who share a common interest.
I left MTG around the time when Lorwyn came out in 2007. I saw the insane power creep that was occurring and decided it was too much for an (at the time) fairly casual player to handle, nevermind to afford! I got back into playing TCGs about a year ago, and it was Pokemon TCG that got me hooked again. Affordable decks and a diverse format enticed me and now I'm sold on competitive Pokemon. Power creep still exists but is largely offset by how affordable it is to build a competitive deck. The Pokemon market is largely propped up by collectors of full art/special illustrations which arent required in any way to build a good deck. The game has plenty of depth and is simultaneously easy to get friends/newbies involved in. I can hand them a deck and say "this is yours now, have fun!" and they will not only have fun, but win plenty of matches along the way.
Looking at the olschool decks and now trying to complete my casual decks of each mono colors is keeping me sane at the moment. Its my happy place for some reason, something to fixate on rather than on the crap life is throwing me. Of course it will get old, but man, having the new sets be bad and too complicated makes the older cards so attractive
Left for game reasons. I really dislike the current state of most formats. I'll keep things because I do think one day things could swing back around to not being awful. A new format etc.
Not gonna happen. Creep is a one-way street. Power, complexity, clutter - unless the game dies and is picked up by a new company that de-canonizes a lot of cards and mechanics it can only ever get worse from here. So once you have reached the tipping point, where the game is too fast for you or the cards have too much text or whatever it is, just move on. As popular wisdom has it: friends come and go, enemies pile up. Nothing wrong with leaving a game as long you still have some fond memories of it.
I quit the game for various reasons, mainly universes beyond and feeling like the game was “Commander: the Universes Beyond the Gathering”. As my last token to the game, I built a huge chaos cube of 1100 cards from Innistrad, my favorite plane, and I’m hoping to draft it at some point I traded it for Force of Will TCG-which is basically Magic without lands, with a bit of YGO sprinkled in. It has its own issues, and coming back to Magic wouldn’t change much of my financial status (and if anything, going back to Magic would be more expensive) I don’t want to come back. I feel the company and people in charge have betrayed what Magic was originally about
With the reprint policy that WotC has been adhering to, I'd part with anything worth anything if I left the hobby. Just buy the cards back upon returning for pennies
I've never actually quit but there were times that I just didn't feel like Magic and was interested in other TCG's, or was doing something else, so I've put it on hold sometimes for many months at a time. However, I'd never even consider selling my collection unless it's for financial reasons. If there's one thing I've learned it's that the 30 year history of development and refinement in the gameplay department is very hard to overlook and has made this game one of, if not the most satisfying gameplay experiences ever. Even if I get mad at Wizards (or Hasbro to be more precise) sometimes, or one or more sets aren't to my liking, I just can't quit the game itself entirely. I respect and love it too much.
Right there with you. I’m at the point where I’m very selective of what sealed product I buy into. I do think I would continue playing the game forever even if Hasbro killed it tomorrow.
I went to my local store one day and played in a little tournament that was meant for non-competitive decks. I had made some silly little thing that I thought was pretty neat. Second opponent I met had a deck that shut me down completely. My opponent played both my turn and his and it went on and on and on. It's the closest I've come to hitting a guy in my entire adult life. I quit paper magic after that day. That was 15 years ago. I know it's my problem but I just get so frustrated by decks like that, it's not worth it. Tried Arena 10 years later, same thing. Now I see the Commander format and I'm thinking maybe there's hope for me. Already started looking at an Ooze deck but unsure if I changed enough to be able to throw the salt off.
I'm always in the opposite situation. For me, it's always been very difficult to play because either there's not enough people to play with or there's not enough time. I've tried playing in stores, but I have zero interest in "gathering", I just want to play in the little time I have and go on with my life. Then Magic Arena came along and since then I've been able to play frequently 🙏
I quit twice because i never had a constant and good play group of friends. I just recently got a good group and I'm loving it so far... Even if I've spent a bit too much getting back into it. 😅
I'm purging my worthwhile cards and keeping the cheap stuff! I simply cannot put my confidence in the game Wizards has made in the last handful of years
@@Lemon_Sage9999 Apologies 😃 I gotta stop thinking everyone started back in Revised with me lol. Sell Everything then lol. You have a right to question wizards and be fearful of holding any non RL cards as they WILL be reprinted
@@KodiaKSE I got bit on so many things.. bought Archon of Cruelty at 40 and bought Crucible of Worlds at 50. Two vids below this one on my timeline was a guy pasting art books onto basic lands and painting [card name]. I've never been a speculative collector, but my played collection has still lost at least $200. I don't feel the need to play competitively, I'm switching to PTCG for an affordable competitive experience
About the 'Battle Box' idea...I built a suite of 7 obsolete Modern decks, decks that did well in their time and are fun to play but have been surpassed by power creep and a changing metagame. This lets me play something other than EDH, get a different experience without my friends being forced to build for Modern with possibly building a deck way out of the power band I've set for this suite of decks. The 'Chinese Printers' have allowed me to do the same for Vintage, for times we want really degenerate games.
I can't get a game in anymore. I've retired from playing, Likely won't stop collecting until I have all I want, but I can't play anymore. Commander took over and I just don't enjoy it. I get hate for the opinion all the time. Weird looks as well, usually after the "you have such a good set for commander why don't you play?" question. It's nice to hear for once I'm actually valid in refusing to play anymore. Maybe one day I'll find that unicorn group. until then, I'm retired.
I'll probably never quit PLAYING as long as there's someone to play with, but i stopped BUYING quite some time ago due to the behavior of the company that produces the game.
I have not watched the video yet, but with all the bs that Hasbro/WOTC have been doing to the game for the past few years and turning it into a mess, the ridiculous prices, the cardstock quality dropping to a new low every year, releasing a billion sets a year despite the previous issues, and drowning every other format for the sake of Commander, it would make a lot more sense to make a video called "How to *not* quit Magic the Gathering". I haven't touched it since 2018, I genuinely don't understand how people still tolerate it and willingly give money to Hasbro/WOTC for the mess that they have created. D&D is in a similar situation.
ok, I feel the need to point out that mtg is a really fucking bad thing to add to your portfolio. trinket mage who manages people portfolios as a job brought this up recently. mtg in your portfolio is a bad stain on your portfolio and is not worth investing. if you make money you make money but if your investing in cards you're not gonna do well. your portfolio will be shit and your investments would be better served in other places.
Beat advice is to sell it all once and for all and dont look back. Dont listen to anyone telling you to keep pieces etc. its like a crackhead keeping crackhead friends and expecting to “quit” just sell it all!
@@EastWindCommunity1973 I've asked around and asked my local game store. It's only Commander. No standard, modern,legacy, vintage,limited,sealed and the pre releases are barely a thing either. Most people just sign up get their product and drop and trade for commander staples and dip. It's literally nothing but Commander as far as the eye can see and in all directions. So for me the game is effectively dead.
@@EastWindCommunity1973 so these days I only buy cards that work well for my pet deck that I've been honing since about 2011 but I never actually get to use them, not since 2018 at least.
In my experience, the best way to quit magic the gathering is to stop playing magic the gathering, and then watch multiple videos every week about why magic is still bad, as if WOTC is suddenly going to completely change their design approach and start making a game I want to play.
When I quit magic, I keep my cards, because I always end up going back. I'm leaving now because of the terrible quality, terrible art, Hasbro money grabs like Fallout--things that don't belong in MTG. I'll leave for 5 years and see if the idiots have left.
Hey little cousin I got you a great Christmas present it's all my hand-me-down cards there's like 5,000 of them. Come on you know I play Yu-Gi-Oh I don't want your hand me down trash. (I just gave the kid the best present ever) The kid- hey bro my uncle just gave me some useless trash you want some?
Its extremely easy: I sold my collection and with that money I bought a high end PC. Thanks to that I started both TH-cam and Twitch channels and now I get to play much cooler games that are not trying to be Commander in every format. Plus Arena is free, and you can amass a gigantic amount of success in there without spending one penny. MTG has been a train wreck since even before the pandemic. Even Modern rotates now. Decadent ex game☠️
Goddamn dude I feel like you’re my dad. I’m all emotional and shit. I don’t think I’ll ever really quit.. I just would like to have the chance to show my boys the game when they’re a little older..
First of all, I’m proud of you. You’re doing a great job. Secondly, my son started playing around seven and now is an avid Pokémon player so we’re close.
@@TheFirstJake I have read somewhere about a player that said that MTGA is not having games, it's a bunch of algorithms. In reality the matches we play are not matches.
I'm not sure if that's true, but without a face that is definitely what it feels like. It's missing most of what I find interesting about Magic. It really bothers me when people suggest using MTGA to learn the game.
Advice: Just put your cards away and not dump them into a dealer. You will be glad you did. Many wortlhess cards before commander are now good money and will happen with cards in your collection. Like having an unexpected rent given to you.
Or you know just move on and play another game. Magic is nostalgic but not special, and I say that as someone who started in 95 and quit pre covid. The game doesn't matter, the people you play it with does.
I feel morally obligated to write that I hope you are just joking about if the end ever comes near. I have some artist signatures on some of my power 9 and would be happy to play a few games with you.
I’ve quit and returned a few times. Best recommendation is keep your mana base: fetches, shocks, even check lands. Those are always the first things to buy again. I’ve never regretted selling a card that ended up being valuable like Parallel Lives or Yawgmoth, but I always regret getting rid of a solid mana base.
Very true
ABSOLUTELY! I always say it feels bad to buy a manabase, but it feels so much worse to buy it twice.
Diamond hands. Never sell.
I'll disagree with this statement as a 30 year player. Only keep unlimited dual lands or alpha/beta. Revised duals are definitely in stock everywhere. Including foreign ones. Keep only high VALUE RL! If you choose to possibly come back. Non-RL LANDS will always be reprinted...
land is foundational to a deck. without the right land. it just wont vibe well; then the deck suffers because of it.
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Nah, drugs are cheaper.
I liked what you were saying about the financial aspect, and I think there's another good point in there: You might be saying now "I wish I'd kept that dual land that I sold for $50 when today it's $700," but the $50 when you _really_ need it is worth a lot more than $700 when you're doing just fine.
I can attest to this, when my sons were babies I sold a lot of my old GBA games when we needed cash. $50 was a life saver when you're running low on diapers and formula.
Babies are crazy expensive. Clearly luxury hobbies.
This was incredibly serious and positive. I think most people will read the title and think it's a sarcastic satirical video and skip it, but they shouldn't. This really ties into how any hobby fits into your life.
The people that need it, will find it. Thanks for watching!
I've never played Magic but this helped me leave Yugioh, or maybe not check in with me in a month.
But it's so powerful to hear a genuine video from someone saying "I understand" about such an odd semi-niche hobby that I always feel like I'll never hear that sentiment from most players.
I think one of the best aspect of these hobbies is the ability to cultivate community and I have been lucky enough to be a part of several awesome groups of people. If I can pass on even a fraction of that experience to others I’ve achieved what I set out to do.
I stepped away from YuGiOh with the advent of fire king and haven’t felt the need to come back yet. Goat format scratches that itch for now. Maybe give Magic a try!
Yugioh is such a poor game these days. Glad i quit when XZs came out
I really needed the compassion of this video! Thank-you 🥰
Magic is about community. Community is about compassion. Welcome aboard!
Dude. Love the wholesome approach to all this. Subscribed
Awesome, thank you!
This is incredibly wholesome. I haven't played in a few years but I'm still holding onto some commander decks because I've quit and come back before but I think I might need to downsize. Thank you for the advice.
Welcome back! Good luck with the sorting!
I essentially quit due to my two casual playgroups for their own reasons on an individual level quitting. I tried to find new groups to play Magic with and it just seemed from that point forward all people wanted to play was Standard Format or Commander Format and the few that were willing to play casually have played since the beginning and would have decks that won the game turn 2 or 3. Miss the old days of going to a friend's house and casually playing in their living room or basement, having long, but enjoyable games, for the most part playing with what we had (We disallowed the Un-Set cards outside of basic lands as we had a player who tried to be cheaty with Letterbomb)
It's really hard to find casual classic magic that is true. I remember the days of 12 person pods in some guys garage. With the accessibility of cards, people have moved towards just playing pauper or whatever just to bound the power levels. Maybe put together a few decks and lend them out to get things started. Something with powerful cards that do stupid stuff or weak cards that do crazy combos. Show people the beauty of casual and then they might start building their own.
Magic helped me alot. My life imploded during covid, a series of horrible events left me in pieces. The only moments in which I socialized were the ones at the draft or sealed at the local store.
That’s great to hear. I’ve really enjoyed the community that I’ve found in Magic. It’s good to hear that experience from others as well.
Proxy all. Games should be won and lost based on deck building skill and player skill, not pay-to-win bullshit.
As long as you support your community and your LGS it’s all good!
@@TheFirstJake Of course, and this line of thought goes hand in hand with: Buying magic cards from your LGS is about the worst way to support them, their margin on sealed product is insulting. Buy their accessories, buy their snacks, pay them flat rate to rent their table space, and for the love of all that is moral in this world, proxy all MTG.
@@theravenone3439 Every LGS within range of where I live has been dropping their MTG stock month by month. Used to take up as much as 50% of the card game shelf space, now it's less than 20% in most stores, around 10% in the biggest one. Pokemon and Lorcana now have the most stock, followed by (bizarrely) Yugioh. MTG and Weiss Schwarz are about tied. It's really nice to see LGS less reliant on MTG.
ya because then everyone ends up playing the same meta net deck and all the local shops close because they can't afford to stay open
Using proxies isn't any different than pay to win. When you can make any card you want, why not just load all the best cards for the deck you're making?
It has nothing to do with skill or the ability to build a deck; proxies is finding the best deck list online, printing it off and sleeving it up to roflstomp your play group.
Ive helped several people quite mtg with my own method. Land destruction, counter spells, and infinite loops. I also helped them leave toxic friendships (im the toxic friend).
Be the change you want to see in the world!
I support this video and the message. Magic doesn't feel good like it used to. Maybe product fatigue, never having the chance to appreciate a set because spoilers for the next set are released before you've even collected your pre-orders, the constant drain on finances, pulling a chase card and feeling empty rather than joy, the structural collapse from power creep...It even feels like deck building isn't as unique / personal as it once was.
That’s when you go play Premodern
@@85mcarnold I'll check it out, thanks 🙂
i've been idly perusing the comments to this video without actually watching the video (i'm weird like that sometimes) and so many comments made me think to myself "gosh i am glad i discovered premodern"
Man, I wasn’t even considering quitting but I’m so glad I found this video. I can tell it was made with a lot of genuine care and empathy.
Thanks a lot!
Hey Jake, I enjoyed your video. Amusing, calming, and informative. Good job dude. The pace of products these days in MTG is crazy. I used to try and keep up, but I think I got burned out. Now new products get shown by the mothership and I'm like "meh, not interested". I've become choosier. I have decided for myself that I will only buy stuff that I'm truly excited about. Otherwise, I will just buy the singles I need to keep playing the Modern format. I put together the psychic frog, Dimir Murktide Modern deck a couple weeks ago and I enjoy playing it in the new, post-MH3 meta. I wasn't sure I would like it because I don't tend to do well at control type decks, but turns out it's pretty damn good and not too complicated to run, so I'm happy. If I feel like turning my brain off at Modern night then I can always just run my backup deck - Boros Legends. I've been playing Modern since like 2017 or so.
A park ranger telling me if i should quit magic is not on my 2024 bingo list
It’s been a year.
Never seen this channel before but it’s weird that this just suddenly popped up like this. I’ve been on the fence about quitting, not because of finances or anything like that… Bit it goes kinda with your thing about the social aspect. My friends and I got into the game to have fun but about half of our group has become so hyper competitive that it just drains the fun out of the game for the other half of our group (including me). I’ve got a perfect example from just a couple days. We had played several games swapping out players and I jumped in with a brand new deck I had wanted to try out, the guy who is most certainly the worst of our power gamers asked me if it was a strong deck. I explained it was a janky, low powered, budget deck. He goes “cool, I’ll use my pet deck then” and pulls out his cEDH deck, blows everyone out of the water on turn two, tells everyone that it’s ok because he was holding back (showing us his hand and explaining how he could have won that turn if he wanted to “but that wouldn’t have been fun”), and then decides to just get it over with and win on turn four when he finally realizes the rest of the table has just completely checked out. That was the last game we played that night while everyone awkwardly put away their cards. I’ve been thinking a lot since that happened… I don’t mean to knock people who do have fun playing competitively, that’s just not how I get enjoyment out of the game. Oh, and sorry for the long message.
That's how it goes sometimes. I would say though that playing competitively is different than pubstomping. It's only playing competitively if everyone can compete. Otherwise it's just bringing a gun to a knife fight.
This is a conversation that needs to happen outside the game, because I imagine it wouldn't be solved even if you brought something that was on their level.
If all else fails, just shop around for a new place to play. There's a lot of people that share your perspective on fun in commander.
@@CRL888 that's called "pub stomping" and there's nothing cool about it. The people who do it are just insecure and probably don't get many wins in real life.
An example of this mindset can been seen while driving: let's say you're driving along and pass someone who's stopped at a red light, because as soon as you roll up, it turns green. Then, they stomp on the gas to catch up and pass you.
Smh 😑 yes, this stems from pure, deep-seated insecurity and it's the same kind of people who think pub stomping is cool.
Don't worry, those kind of people will never be anyone's _true_ friend and are ultimately become their own worst punishment.
Wish them the best and move on. You will find like-minded people who want to enjoy life with the people around them (rather than just using those around them for their own selfish and relativistic gratification).
Anyway, you're post was not too long. Thanks for the detail. And by all means keep it playful my guy, I have MTG horror stories too, but just remember that you are proof that not everyone is like that.
Put out what you want to receive
✌❤ respect
lol, thank y’all both for your support. I didn’t mean for this to become a free therapy session when I posted that yesterday ^_^;; Was just feeling down and typing out my comment seemed like the thing I needed to do to get those thoughts out of my system. Unfortunately I can’t exactly find a new place to play really because our usual hangout place is my kitchen/dining room table… However, definitely reconsidering my friendship with the guy from yesterday’s comment :/ Don’t know if that seems like extreme measures from a stranger on the internet over something as silly as a card game… But believe me when I say it’s one of those straw that breaks the camel’s back kinda situations. And I just wanted to say again, thank you both for your supportive replies.
FYI…i love the long message, you don’t need to apologize. I had this same issue in high school. The mtg crowd was overly competitive. Some of them would proxy their decks so they could have play sets of the best cards. 8/10 times I would have the lower life total when the morning bell rang. I traded to get a play set of Wellwisher. Eventually I dropped my elf deck to 40 cards to make it supper fast and always got mana in my opening hand. Finally I started winning with cheap cards against “expensive” decks. Today I know better than to rack my brain to try and win against super competitive players who think they have to win every game they play. Magic is about more than game, it’s about the community. I hope you can find a playgroup that enjoys casual play. In a casual game you can get to know the person, rather than be hyper focused on winning.
@@CRL888 EDIT: I had a typo that changed the meaning a bit (meant to write "difficult" but wrote "different")
Right on, I'm sincerely happy to hear that, thank you for sharing 👊
However, one adjustment to my words could be beneficial:
Everything depends on your friends age (so, the context)
If you guys are teenagers, (dont tolerate disrespect, but) PLEASE be merciful towards one another. Everyone is trying to figure out life, and everything is DIFFICULT at first.
With that said, you can also wish other people well from a distance. (Or, at least until barriers are established.)
However, my man, if your friend is mid-twenties or above, simply put, you're not someone's scratch paper. Let them learn the hard way, just NOT at your expense, ie, far away from you.
In other words, if that is the case: please re-read the original message, lol.
✌
Edit:
Also, it's probably good to mention how that wasn't a bro move of him (ie, the pub stomping nonsense) before you cut the cord though 💪
BEST OF LUCK!!
The only reason i took a years long break was that my group broke up and had a tough time finding a new LGS. it feels good to be back and playing but the reasons you list are totally valid
Yeah it can take a bit to find a good community. I love the feeling of reconnecting with an old hobby.
As somebody in that transition stage from warhammer (with the community for gw falling around apart me), and getting more and more into magic. This advice is golden, even if I need to swap the word card for minis troug out the vid.
funny video to see pop up on my feed as i finish spending 2 days organizing my MTG collection and finally having time to update my decks. A couple times I thought "is this all worth it?" It is for me still, but thanks for the video
Organization has that effect on me as well. I started organizing and ended up with six unfinished decks…
Saving this for 10 years from now
I'm not quitting magic, I just watched this off my recommended videos page because I'd never seen a video on the subject. Now I'm sad :(
No reason for tears! Life happens. Just play and enjoy the game.
I never wanted to quit Magic, but the sets became so bad that Magic made me quit Magic
Yeah Magic is in a weird place right now. I will say the one thing that Hasbro is good at is following money. If it makes sense for them to move towards more traditional sets, they will. Time will tell where the greater playerbase wants to go.
I started in '95, just played with friends. Played some FNMs. Then I stopped.
I started playing again in the early 2000's, this time super competitively. PTQs, then GPs & PTs. Then I stopped.
I started up again, made a cube and drafted every week with friends. Then I stopped.
This month my niece(14) started playing and wanted to play in tournaments. I am so so proud and we have been having a blast.
I have never once stopped playing and then been glad that I stopped. I've regretted it every time.
But you're 100% correct with the financial reasons. If you have to, you have to.
(But also, potential advice: maybe never sell your lands.)
How to quit Magic: you lie to yourself into believing you won’t come back to the game and just hide them in a lockbox on a deserted island
Bury a box of treasure tokens on the island for added flavor.
@@TheFirstJake Oh my God, YES
Universes Beyond is why
Universes Beyond is why a lot of new faces have joined the Magic community in the last few years and has been a net good to the health of the game. I still have mixed feelings, but that’s the truth.
@@TheFirstJake The truth?
He's the truth: most of those "new faces" will NOT stay for very long, because by definition of the argument, they came in for a specific IP.
More concerning to longtime Magic players, is the fact that *Universes Beyond will NOT stop.* After all, there's always another IP. We should consider what kind of game that would create and ask ourselves if it would even resemble MTG at that point.
In the end, these "new faces" are simply here to make Hasbro money because Universes Beyond amounts to nothing more than a greedy cashgrab to satisfy corporate earnings (those must only go up btw... so what must they do to ensure packs are purchased🤔)
Perhaps you're getting new subs from all the "new faces" (which makes your opinion bias btw), however please consider that this is like a sugar high or an economy boosted-up temporarily by printing money, ie, it's unsustainable. They have to keep bringing in new players to make up for those leaving (both old and new) as well as topping the previous big-selling set with a new, even larger-selling set.
Only when players start to notice that their Commander decks, the ones that once identified their character and personality, have become completely different because Universes Beyond has "power crept" their decks into something they were never intended to be, will they realize that this is how Hasbro slowly butchers the goose that lays the golden eggs: by turning Commander (and Modern) into a rotating format devoid of personality and about as authentic as Disney Land.
It's like idiocracy is a documentary with all the shortsightedness.
@@TheFirstJake That's not true at all. Universes Beyond has created a lot of new players, but number of players isn't the only metric of game health. By that logic, one should be endorsing shanty towns as the healthiest form of settlement because they can house a lot of people very quickly.
By WOTC's own admission, these players are only expected to keep playing for an average of 18 months, which is down from the two year expected average they said a few years ago, and the game they're playing is increasingly becoming divorced from the game that older fans enjoyed. It's a Ship of Theseus problem - WOTC have switched out most of the card pool and most of the player base in the past 5 years, so is the game they have now still the same game we had 10 years ago, or is it a new ship by the same name?
That's why the player count as health metric doesn't work - MTG can have as many players as it wants, but if what they're playing is universes beyond, thunder junction-style genre sets, MH3, and secret lairs, then I still can't find a good group to play with and MTG is still, to me, effectively dead.
@@munen-muso I don’t entirely disagree, because I did come to the game for the Godzilla cards and stayed for the Jurassic Park set. But I’ve stuck around for a while past that. Have a few decks that I enjoy outside of Universes Beyond. I think UB was a great way to get people interested in the game, but boy, I’m in too deep now XD
@ Jake: I Laud your efforts with this video.
Your approaches were well thought out and relevant to most circumstances be it past, current or future.
Great vid…..I left twice and came back.
First time I left was after high school and I sold my cards then after college. I did painstakingly reacquire all the cards I liked from the first time minus 1 but I kept all the cards from college so when I came back again it didn’t take much effort to assemble a deck that relevant to the current decks.
It’s all a pendulum swing with ebbs and flows depending on how the game is managed but one thing is constant and that is change.
If you like the game but hate what it has become then by all means take a break but keep the cards since chances are there will be a time when it’s worth returning to or better yet if you know exactly what to change then invent a new format; never know it may take off.
Protip. Don't store valuable cards sleeved in deck boxes. Take them out so the paper can breath with the seasonal climate changes, and store them boxed with pressure on both sides, otherwise they will curl/warp.
This is good advice. Some cards will just curl anyways though...
Just keep it casual. Sell the trendy expensive cards and stop buying new product. Keep playing with what you have if you have a good gaming group.
Well said!
I left the game in 2007 and came back 15 (!) years later. I left because I simply didn't had time (MSc, work, etc) and the group disbanded. I kept all my cards because I wanted to come back at some point and because most of them weren't really valuable. After a house spring cleaning in 2022 I bumped into two sleeved decks and when a friend was visiting we just played a couple of games... And we were hooked again! I got most of my play group back again - which is the best part, the gathering.
The only thing I'd say for someone thinking quiting is: explore other (perhaps more casual) formats or build a cube, you don't need to spend a lot of money or keep up with all the cards coming up every month to have fun, you just need to find people who share a common interest.
I really like you. Totally support this message.
Awww shucks.
I left MTG around the time when Lorwyn came out in 2007. I saw the insane power creep that was occurring and decided it was too much for an (at the time) fairly casual player to handle, nevermind to afford! I got back into playing TCGs about a year ago, and it was Pokemon TCG that got me hooked again. Affordable decks and a diverse format enticed me and now I'm sold on competitive Pokemon. Power creep still exists but is largely offset by how affordable it is to build a competitive deck. The Pokemon market is largely propped up by collectors of full art/special illustrations which arent required in any way to build a good deck. The game has plenty of depth and is simultaneously easy to get friends/newbies involved in. I can hand them a deck and say "this is yours now, have fun!" and they will not only have fun, but win plenty of matches along the way.
I would give my cards to someone else, like a kid, but I don't want them to make bad financial decisions too :(
I will roll a five or an eight and get you out of this game 🎲 🎲
Looking at the olschool decks and now trying to complete my casual decks of each mono colors is keeping me sane at the moment. Its my happy place for some reason, something to fixate on rather than on the crap life is throwing me. Of course it will get old, but man, having the new sets be bad and too complicated makes the older cards so attractive
this is the coolest mtg video ive seen in a long time. love the national parks themse
Thanks a lot! I appreciate the kind words.
im a yugioh player, im quickly sinking into the mtg rabbithole, help!
The only help i can provide is saying you made the right choice.
Jist got back into magic and can say I wish i had followed the advice to keep my mana base. Now i have to rebuy all fetches and shocks 😢
Tale as old as time! Welcome back.
Left for game reasons. I really dislike the current state of most formats. I'll keep things because I do think one day things could swing back around to not being awful. A new format etc.
Not gonna happen. Creep is a one-way street. Power, complexity, clutter - unless the game dies and is picked up by a new company that de-canonizes a lot of cards and mechanics it can only ever get worse from here. So once you have reached the tipping point, where the game is too fast for you or the cards have too much text or whatever it is, just move on.
As popular wisdom has it: friends come and go, enemies pile up. Nothing wrong with leaving a game as long you still have some fond memories of it.
Fine explanation! I shared and posted! 🤘🦁🤘
Thanks a lot!
I quit the game for various reasons, mainly universes beyond and feeling like the game was “Commander: the Universes Beyond the Gathering”. As my last token to the game, I built a huge chaos cube of 1100 cards from Innistrad, my favorite plane, and I’m hoping to draft it at some point
I traded it for Force of Will TCG-which is basically Magic without lands, with a bit of YGO sprinkled in. It has its own issues, and coming back to Magic wouldn’t change much of my financial status (and if anything, going back to Magic would be more expensive)
I don’t want to come back. I feel the company and people in charge have betrayed what Magic was originally about
With the reprint policy that WotC has been adhering to, I'd part with anything worth anything if I left the hobby.
Just buy the cards back upon returning for pennies
Some cards will still appreciate in value despite reprints, such as serialised cards, but this is generally the way - and a good thing for it.
I've never actually quit but there were times that I just didn't feel like Magic and was interested in other TCG's, or was doing something else, so I've put it on hold sometimes for many months at a time.
However, I'd never even consider selling my collection unless it's for financial reasons.
If there's one thing I've learned it's that the 30 year history of development and refinement in the gameplay department is very hard to overlook and has made this game one of, if not the most satisfying gameplay experiences ever.
Even if I get mad at Wizards (or Hasbro to be more precise) sometimes, or one or more sets aren't to my liking, I just can't quit the game itself entirely. I respect and love it too much.
Right there with you. I’m at the point where I’m very selective of what sealed product I buy into. I do think I would continue playing the game forever even if Hasbro killed it tomorrow.
This is so well done.
Thanks!
I went to my local store one day and played in a little tournament that was meant for non-competitive decks. I had made some silly little thing that I thought was pretty neat. Second opponent I met had a deck that shut me down completely. My opponent played both my turn and his and it went on and on and on. It's the closest I've come to hitting a guy in my entire adult life. I quit paper magic after that day. That was 15 years ago. I know it's my problem but I just get so frustrated by decks like that, it's not worth it. Tried Arena 10 years later, same thing.
Now I see the Commander format and I'm thinking maybe there's hope for me. Already started looking at an Ooze deck but unsure if I changed enough to be able to throw the salt off.
I'm always in the opposite situation. For me, it's always been very difficult to play because either there's not enough people to play with or there's not enough time. I've tried playing in stores, but I have zero interest in "gathering", I just want to play in the little time I have and go on with my life. Then Magic Arena came along and since then I've been able to play frequently 🙏
I'll never quit my addiction but I take breaks on occasion
It’s good to occasionally go to Magic rehab.
Quite timely with the Duskmourn spoilers. XD
True it does look scary.
I quit twice because i never had a constant and good play group of friends. I just recently got a good group and I'm loving it so far... Even if I've spent a bit too much getting back into it. 😅
Yeah that can't be helped. Cardboard crack is real.
I just got back into MTG CEDH, hoping to keep the cards I have now. 😅
CEDH is a monster! Which deck did you land on?
No one quits magic . It’s the most addictive thing I’ve ever seen
It's a pretty great game.
I'm purging my worthwhile cards and keeping the cheap stuff! I simply cannot put my confidence in the game Wizards has made in the last handful of years
Keep your reserve list. Dump everything else.
@@KodiaKSE bold of you to assume I have any RL 😎 I started playing in 2014
@@Lemon_Sage9999 Apologies 😃 I gotta stop thinking everyone started back in Revised with me lol. Sell Everything then lol. You have a right to question wizards and be fearful of holding any non RL cards as they WILL be reprinted
@@KodiaKSE I got bit on so many things.. bought Archon of Cruelty at 40 and bought Crucible of Worlds at 50. Two vids below this one on my timeline was a guy pasting art books onto basic lands and painting [card name].
I've never been a speculative collector, but my played collection has still lost at least $200. I don't feel the need to play competitively, I'm switching to PTCG for an affordable competitive experience
You might try pauper or one of the cheaper competitive formats. It gets pretty cutthroat without the financial burden!
Wow. I thought this was going to be sarcastic and silly, but it was an amazing video.
Thanks for the compliment!
Comment for the wholesome vibe algorithm
I just stopped buying about 4 years ago
About the 'Battle Box' idea...I built a suite of 7 obsolete Modern decks, decks that did well in their time and are fun to play but have been surpassed by power creep and a changing metagame. This lets me play something other than EDH, get a different experience without my friends being forced to build for Modern with possibly building a deck way out of the power band I've set for this suite of decks.
The 'Chinese Printers' have allowed me to do the same for Vintage, for times we want really degenerate games.
That’s awesome! I love the classic modern decks. I like your deck breakdown videos btw. Fun to see their evolution.
@@TheFirstJake Cheers for it, happy you find it interesting. 🙂
I’ve quit two or three times since 1999 and regretted purging every time. If I ever quit again I won’t sell my cards. I know I’ll be back.
@@Cherokie89 And we’ll be here waiting.
I quit because my play group quit and I didn’t have the energy to find new friends.
Time to make some enemies then! How do you feel about land destruction?
I’ve been quitting Magic for 30 years. Not knowing what booster boxes contained what ended the cycle
Cards that are worth money to me = Dwarves, and we barely see much dwarves, so i'm good
I can't get a game in anymore. I've retired from playing, Likely won't stop collecting until I have all I want, but I can't play anymore. Commander took over and I just don't enjoy it. I get hate for the opinion all the time. Weird looks as well, usually after the "you have such a good set for commander why don't you play?" question. It's nice to hear for once I'm actually valid in refusing to play anymore. Maybe one day I'll find that unicorn group. until then, I'm retired.
I'll probably never quit PLAYING as long as there's someone to play with, but i stopped BUYING quite some time ago due to the behavior of the company that produces the game.
I have not watched the video yet, but with all the bs that Hasbro/WOTC have been doing to the game for the past few years and turning it into a mess, the ridiculous prices, the cardstock quality dropping to a new low every year, releasing a billion sets a year despite the previous issues, and drowning every other format for the sake of Commander, it would make a lot more sense to make a video called "How to *not* quit Magic the Gathering". I haven't touched it since 2018, I genuinely don't understand how people still tolerate it and willingly give money to Hasbro/WOTC for the mess that they have created. D&D is in a similar situation.
ok, I feel the need to point out that mtg is a really fucking bad thing to add to your portfolio. trinket mage who manages people portfolios as a job brought this up recently. mtg in your portfolio is a bad stain on your portfolio and is not worth investing. if you make money you make money but if your investing in cards you're not gonna do well. your portfolio will be shit and your investments would be better served in other places.
Beat advice is to sell it all once and for all and dont look back. Dont listen to anyone telling you to keep pieces etc. its like a crackhead keeping crackhead friends and expecting to “quit” just sell it all!
Dude being in the Boy Scouts amplified my MTG addiction WTF
@@danthewafflelord3059 We were getting Magic banned in Boyscouts one camp at a time. (Cherry Valley, Trask, Verdugo Oaks, the list proliferates.)
@@TheFirstJake Too true 😅
I can't quit. It's too late for me. Just give me something for the pain and let me die.
Start playing warhammer 40k next thing you know your entire card collection will slowly turn into toy soldiers
See i tried that, but now I’m just doing both…
@TheFirstJake how many armies do you have ? Wait till you get to your 2nd third army then there's age of sigmar
It ramps up fast as fuck 🤣
Jokes on you I play kill team so… nine. I have nine. And a full Death Guard 2.5k.
"Yugioh has a much better community".... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
never ever will that be true lol
Damn YuGiOh players, they ruined YuGiOh!
@@TheFirstJake I think a lot of them are just angry the font is size 1.
What I have learned by playing Yugioh and MTG for over 10 years is that only Pokemon players seem like they're actually having fun.
when i stopped smoking weed, i played magic instead. definetely more healthy :)
More expensive though.
The choice was made for me. Commander took over and made it completely impossible to get a game in paper.
There's always limited. But yeah, commander is lame.
@@EastWindCommunity1973 I've asked around and asked my local game store. It's only Commander. No standard, modern,legacy, vintage,limited,sealed and the pre releases are barely a thing either. Most people just sign up get their product and drop and trade for commander staples and dip. It's literally nothing but Commander as far as the eye can see and in all directions. So for me the game is effectively dead.
@@EastWindCommunity1973 so these days I only buy cards that work well for my pet deck that I've been honing since about 2011 but I never actually get to use them, not since 2018 at least.
I thought this was a joke
In my experience, the best way to quit magic the gathering is to stop playing magic the gathering, and then watch multiple videos every week about why magic is still bad, as if WOTC is suddenly going to completely change their design approach and start making a game I want to play.
When I quit magic, I keep my cards, because I always end up going back. I'm leaving now because of the terrible quality, terrible art, Hasbro money grabs like Fallout--things that don't belong in MTG. I'll leave for 5 years and see if the idiots have left.
Hey little cousin I got you a great Christmas present it's all my hand-me-down cards there's like 5,000 of them.
Come on you know I play Yu-Gi-Oh I don't want your hand me down trash.
(I just gave the kid the best present ever) The kid- hey bro my uncle just gave me some useless trash you want some?
Its extremely easy: I sold my collection and with that money I bought a high end PC. Thanks to that I started both TH-cam and Twitch channels and now I get to play much cooler games that are not trying to be Commander in every format. Plus Arena is free, and you can amass a gigantic amount of success in there without spending one penny. MTG has been a train wreck since even before the pandemic. Even Modern rotates now. Decadent ex game☠️
That’s awesome man! Congratulations.
BUY FLESH AND BLOOD horraaaayy! .. its a real game
I do really like Flesh and Blood, but it is not without its issues. I do think it makes a great battle-box though with 4-6 blitz decks.
NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER SURRENDER!!!
By Grabthar's hammer…
better sell now before WOTC tanks the game forever
Aw shute,,,, you're actually Meaning this serious wearing a park ranger suite?
Only the seriousest of business here!
Goddamn dude I feel like you’re my dad. I’m all emotional and shit. I don’t think I’ll ever really quit.. I just would like to have the chance to show my boys the game when they’re a little older..
First of all, I’m proud of you. You’re doing a great job. Secondly, my son started playing around seven and now is an avid Pokémon player so we’re close.
Wtf did i just watch?!?!?!? 😂
The reason I quit was it cost too much, i also could not find time, and i had over half of my stuff stolen. I still miss it, but I don't the time.
mtga is shit.
Fair. I'd argue that it's almost an entirely different game though.
@@TheFirstJake I have read somewhere about a player that said that MTGA is not having games, it's a bunch of algorithms. In reality the matches we play are not matches.
I'm not sure if that's true, but without a face that is definitely what it feels like. It's missing most of what I find interesting about Magic. It really bothers me when people suggest using MTGA to learn the game.
@@TheFirstJake agreed.
Advice: Just put your cards away and not dump them into a dealer. You will be glad you did. Many wortlhess cards before commander are now good money and will happen with cards in your collection. Like having an unexpected rent given to you.
Or you know just move on and play another game. Magic is nostalgic but not special, and I say that as someone who started in 95 and quit pre covid. The game doesn't matter, the people you play it with does.
So what games are you playing now? We've rotated through several, but always end up coming back to Magic.
Magic 4-Life. When I feel like the end is near, I’ll write and sign a message on the backs of my power 9 and disperse them to family.
I feel morally obligated to write that I hope you are just joking about if the end ever comes near. I have some artist signatures on some of my power 9 and would be happy to play a few games with you.
Just play flesh-and-blood
I do. It's fine? It just doesn't really excite me in the same way. Why does it stand out for you?