I made a mistake in 2006. Worldpurge isn't from Dissention, it's from Shadowmoor which was in 2008. Thankfully it was just an honorable mention, but still worth pointing out.
1995 could have been Jester's Cap. It yields the same effective result as Jokulhaups with all the brutal efficiency of Counterspell: it guts any deck by knowing the right to card to name. It is less fair and less fun and equalizing than Tormod's Crypt. 1996 it has to be Lion's Eye Diamond because there are no fair fun uses for the card but there are a lot of uses that could inspire someone to Jester's Cap the Diamond or Tormods Crypt your graveyard in a preemptive self defense.
@@zaya431green was objectively busted in half that year, and 2020. Oko, Uro, Growth Spiral, Veil of Summer, Once Upon a Time, Nissa, and Hydroid Krasis were all supposed to be in Standard at the same time, if many of them hadn’t been banned.
@@andyspendlove1019 honestly i'd love that standard format if the cards were moved around the color pie a little bit (of course changing cards to fit their new color; i mean power wise)
@@aqswd6825 idk, with shocks and checklands being available for most of those cards’ lifetimes, I don’t know if moving them around the color pie would’ve really changed anything. Plus I wouldn’t want to see those cards real those colors for other formats 😅 the problem is with the cards themselves, which are hilariously overpowered to the point where I sincerely believe it was a tactic to boost sales of paper Standard sets in a time where that format was starting to wane in popularity, with the rise of Commander and Arena
Since I learned today about Stasis being done by Richard Garfield's aunt from this video which made me do some research: She was an established artist, it wasn't just "oh my dear boy please put this into your game"
While I don't mind the iconic art, I think a game benefits from a more uniform look and feel. At some point, they got it right and just nailed it set after set. However, I believe they lost this streak quite a while ago. Currently everything is so uniform, it is almost bland.
@@pinobluevogel6458 While I still think MTG has the best art of any TCG ever, the switch to mostly digital art hurt the game IMO. Non digital art simply can't be totally recreated yet digitally. This sounds weird, but digital art is almost too good.
@@mattm7798 Thanks for the response. I think you are on to something. With the advent of AI made art, this is only going to be more prevalent. I don't want to sound like an old boomer and say everything was better in the old days, as it certainly wasn't. However, as much as I fell in love with the art being more standardized and recognizable as 'magic' art, I also slowly fell out of love with it a few years ago. This might be the digital art issue you mention, or it could be the style they chose not being designed for players like me, or maybe their graphics department isn't as good as it used to be. I would say, it is probably a combination of all these factors.
@@pinobluevogel6458 I completely disagree. I think that the contrasting art styles gives the game more variety, I can understand that even you have your limits, but I think the game hit those limits a long time again. I'm a huge fan of the old art style with less of a focus on photorealism and a lot more abstract styles. I love the Stasis art, I think it's just great. But honestly, art is so insanely personal to evaluate that literally anyone can like any art for any reason.
I think it is worth mentioning that Alchemy isnt hated because the cards dont exist in paper, it is hated because rather than being treated by WotC as a way to fix Standard by balancing, it is treated as a money grab that further breaks standard with OP Alchemy ridiculous cards.
@@283leisyes that too. I don't hate them it just feels weird.... There are definitely waaaaaay more archetypes in alchemy tho. I put together a burn list that's mostly uncommons and commons, allows me to play burn seriously which is cool.... I guess I've been kind of enjoying it lol
I'm still utterly amazed by Ajani in 2008, no that it was hated, but by the fact that you went so in depth to identify the addition of the mechanic and the rarity in a video like this truly shows your passion for content creation
I'm a little sad that the planeswalker I find by far the best looking, in a color combination that I like to play (RW) is a stand-in for 2 of the things I dislike heavily about modern magic: Planeswalkers and Mythic rarity. Teferi, or one of the many Jaces could have been a better example. While the planeswalkers in the first set they showed up in were okay, it didn't take them long to come up with completely broken versions. They utterly dominate every lower powered format and it took Wizards years to design some reasonable removal for it. I don't even want to start with the Mythic rarity issue, it reflects everything WotC corporate greed stands for and negatively affects the players by making necessary game pieces even more artificially scarce than they already were.
I think Elspeth would've been a better example. No one was really concerned about Ajani's rarity because it was the pre-release promo so there were a million copies floating around and you could get it for like $5.
No one actually hated siege rhino though. It was literally honored as the best card in standard at the time and so many people made goodbye videos for it
i think it was one of the most beloved 'best cards' in history of standard. it was just an efficient "fair" card that didnt hose any archetype (no not even aggro, multiple aggro decks existed despite siege rhino)
I would like to point out that Fay Jones the Stasis isn’t just some person, she’s a renowned artist with works on display in many places in the Pacific Northwest.
I mean I stopped playing magic in 2019 for a reason. I haven't picked the game up again since. My only exposure to magic now is through Seth, just because I like Seth as an entertainer.
Seems like a lot of these are through the lens of Commander. Commander wasn't nearly as popular when a lot of these cards came out. No way Rift was the most hated card of 2012. I seem to remember Supreme Verdict, Thragtusk/resto Angel etc. Most people wouldn't have even heard of notion thief in 2013. They WOULD definitely have had a groan inducing experience playing against Voice of Resurgence.
True-Name Nemesis deserves most hatred of 2013, no other card comes close. Not just for being awful to play against but because it started the trend of cards from supplemental sets ruining non-rotating formats
That's not the problem with those cards though. The problem is that wheels punish the snot out of everyone whether they wish it or not, and often, the decks that abuse these draw punishers are also drawing a bazillion cards.
Gitaxian probe is also a solid argument for 2011, just for how many formats it was played into. It makes your deck 56 cards and gives you a bunch of free info if it's safe to storm off.
I was there in 2010/2011. The most hated card wasn’t anything you mentioned, though those were all rightly hated. The most hated card was Squadron Hawk. The least powerful card needed for the Caw-Blade decks that annihilated standard. Stupid bird that finds more birds. Not particularly broken, but very annoying with JtMS controlling card advantage, mental misstep and mana leak controlling board state, and a handful of swords and living weapons to give to your stupid, stupid little birds.
For 1998 it was Tolarian Academy. There was all kinds of broken stuff going on, but with Academy you just knew what the rest of the game looked like. Until Academy was hit, games were just down to whos gets their academy first so you could "stroke myself until I go off and stroke you until I win." After it was banned, I got 8 of them for about $6, 4 of which became my first 4 cradles...
Watching this video felt like a time capsule of emotions. This game has come a long way and so have we as players. Cheers to those who stuck around all this time!
Story time: I remember way back when, at a PTQ I was playing mindslaver lock. I was super dead on board game 1. I don't quite remember the exact board state but I remember I was dead next turn. I draw, Mindslaver (no academy ruin on board). I play Mindslaver, crack it, get to look at opponents hand and then I say this : "I want to see the sideboard" . My opponent immediately called a judge. Back then Mindslaver ruling was that you controlled all of the oponents actions, including peeking at sideboard. Judge ruled in my favour and opponent actually CONCEDES game 1 to make sure I don't get to see any information. I won the second game easily after that .
Exactly. Also, 'Ego drain' from WOE. Even if not using or having faeries in play. If you're using plenty of cards with adventures on them, then even though you loose that side of most cards who have them, the other and usually more powerful side of the card can still be used. Like with 'Virtue of Persistence'. Most of us uses the adventure side first, but I've wondered many times, if that is really a "mistake", because it gives a warning for your opponent, and they could potentially prepare themselves for what's to come, which makes the card more fair. But even though it can use more creatures from graveyards, 'Breach the Multiverse' is more scarry, because it happens on the spot, and by having both yours and opponents top 10 cards milled, this gives a higher chance of very powerful creatures to choose from to etb. Very difficult on the other end to prepare for this, if you don't know if your opponent has Breach or not. So if one avoided playing the adventure side of Virtue, then if able to do so, in either the same turn or the next one as playing Ego Drain, that would give your opponent significantly less time to prepare for it. And you could use Ego drain to potentially make your opponent discard a very powerful creature that you could take and use for yourself a bit later. And there're probably other adventure cards that could be utilized/misused this way as well. Maybe even more so for eternal formats from the previous Eldraine set. Oh, and what if one played Breach before the turn, where you'd use Ego Drain and Virtue. Then suddenly there are more potential candidates to etb under your control in the future turns to come 🤔😆😅😬
12:20 I remember Storm, we accidentally nerfed Storm. My play group completely misunderstood the mechanic, and reasoned that the copies still needed to be paid for, so it was only useful if you had lots of extra mana.
As someone who played high lvl mtg tournaments in my high school years 96-01, my recollection of those years is quite different. From tempest-exodus, 'tradewind rider' comes to mind, along with the omnipresent 'hatred'. The later part is very interesting for someone who has just this year gotten back in the game. As an oldtimer do miss land destruction though... Cards like wasteland used to run as standard
Ha, I've also just started a year ago after a break of 25 years. Though I only played one tournament back in the day and only for 1,5 years during the Urza block (though it seemed much longer as a 14 year old). I found the decklist of the Goblin deck I played at that tournament and it listed 4 wastelands. Of course, I sold them for little beer money shortly after, as I did with most of my academy deck (which I built shortly after the ban just for the fun of it).
I'm pretty sure people hate the one ring more than orcish Bowmasters. At least that's what I have experienced. I am surprised you went with Bowmasters for 2023.
He said in another comment that he was working on this video a few weeks ago, so TOR hadn't blown up yet, and that if he did this video again, he'd pick TOR
While Time Stretch may be hated, it is hilarious when I get to triple or quadruple multi-cast it in our pod. My group just agreed to treat it as a win condition. If I can resolve it, they all concede in response and we move to the next game.
That's kinda what I used to do whenever someone pulled a splinter twin infinite out of nowhere, except instead of conceding we'd say "okay you auto-win, now the rest of us will play for second place," and give them a big sarcastic smile.
I distinctly remember playing Ernageddon when Ice Age hit. Seeing Jokulhaups ripped out of a pack of Ice Age, along with Orcish Lumberjack and Tinderwall made me enamored with it. Throw in a Zuran Orb and Stormbind, good times! Also, how can you not mention Plow Under from Urza's? God, that card was such a tempo screw... but not bad enough for most people to abandon all hope. It's like the chance of coming back from a couple resolved Plow Unders would keep you going, and just made it feel that much worse when you lost... Is it wrong that I love all of these hated cards a lot? Then I don't wanna be right! 🥳
Surprised Plow Under didn't get a mention in 1999. At least mass land-destruction is symmetrical. Plow Under not only is a double Stone Rain but also blanks essentially two draw steps as well. It is one of the most frustrating cards I ever had to play against, though that only happened when it was reprinted in 8th Edition.
People really hated Divine Intervention? I've never seen anyone play it, it's a card designed for ante and nobody played with ante. It was banned because it could create problems in tournaments.
Wasn't played back in the day at all. I currently play it in an alt wincon tribal deck and the players that are losing are always grateful when I end the game in a tie.
Fay Jones is not just Richard Garfield's aunt. She was an accomplished professional artist at that point. Her style is just not inline with MTG. But, I would 100% buy a Fey Jones Secret Lair. If you are ever in Seattle she did the mural for the Westlake Transit Tunnel.
One card which definitely deserves an honorable Mention is Future Sight's Steamflogger Boss. The card was rare that did nothing! It was four mana for 3/3 and a joke. When it came out, everyone I knew would be so defeated opening it in a draft pack.
I can't believe bowmasters is the most hated card. It has to be the most loved one, everyone wants to play this card and people's reaction when an opponent plays it is not as bad as when someone plays the one ring
Quite the opposite actually, The One Ring isnt really an issue since it wont win the game on its own and it doesnt prevent you from drawing cards it just helps the opponent a lot and if you know what you are doing and play around it you can get around its protection to everything. Bowmasters is imo Sheoldred on crack because they both tax card draw except Bowmasters has 2 bodies you gotta deal with and its 2 mana compared to 4 while also having Flash becuase why not oh and did I forget to mention its also not legendary? Also the only real good answear to a Bowmaster is your own Bowmaster which is not healthy for the game.
@@JulioDRaiany removal spell is a good answer for an orcish bowmaster. Another bowmaster isn't the greatest answer itself anyway since you have to rely on your opponent to draw cards, so you loose flexibility. And I'd argue that the massive amounts of card draw the ring provides wins games by itself in 60 card formats right now, especially since it's playable in any deck.
@@KeganKirby What removal you have that is 2 mana or less and removes both the bowmaster and the army? I'll be gald to hear all the good options we have that meet that requirement. Also idk what 60 card format you are playing where decks dont naturally draw tons of cards especially since almost everyone is running the Ring in their decks so Bowmasters are naturally good and you dont need to build around them or anything they are just another really strong midrange card you throw into any deck that has access to black.
As a control player, I'd 100% rather face the ring than the bowmasters. Bowmasters are just Sheoldred on crack for 2, which is supremely retarded, while the ring is a 4 mana card that kills you if they counter your other rings.
@@KeganKirby Removing the bowmaster with conventional removal would be a tempo swing for the bowmaster’s controller.. it’s a 2 for 1. Such is the problem with the FIRES design era where threats immediately generate value and snowball later on… best answer to a bowmaster is another bowmaster
4:40 - Correction needed. Flash was SO POWERFUL that it was given power errata, which killed it, and it was the removal of the power errata - not Protean Hulk - which caused it to be powerful again. I played in that time. I know first hand. Steve Menedian wrote an article about how Flash was used with Academy Rector. People thought that Hulk combo might be too clunky and unreliable. They were wrong, but people were already buying copies for Rector Flash after the WotC began to remove power errata from Flash and other cards.
I love how people who play competitive Magic like to talk down on these cards that are competitive staples. Like... SOMEONE is obviously playing them a lot, and it's not like everyone is going into a tournament to avoid annoying their opponent. You hate when your opponent has them, but I guarantee no one out there is gonna intentionally avoid using Thoughtseize in competitive play because it's "too disruptive"
Ruin Crab and any and all Ashinok cards are my most hated, Tasha's Hideous Laughter too. I'm annoyed with mill, I can at least recover if I have a graveyard deck, but exiling mill just ticks me off.
It did.. he was mentioned in the 2019 section… which seth mentioned the year also had lot of annoying cards and could probably have a section of its own..🤣
This would make a great video on its own. However, it might be nice to focus on some of the good things too, to balance it out. Almost every horrible period had its positive undercurrents. For example: even though Throne of Eldrain was completely busted and they had to ban several cards, the graphic design on the cards was surprisingly good. Making a set about fairytales and still making it cool is an achievement on its own.
@@pinobluevogel64582019 made me quit Magic. Power creep made me hate my life playing modern. I’m happy I retired since everything went downhill from there
I feel like there was a bit too much commander focus with the exclusion of upheaval the choices for mirrodin block. Edit: I'm confused. Didn't worldpurge come out over a year after "grand arbiter whomever the 4th".
Interesting. I'm very new to MtG (only played Arena, will find a small friend group now to have more fun) and Ragavan has already become my most hated card. Nexus of Fate is a close second.
Silly question, but is this list about the most hated card relevant to Commander? Because not seeing Arcbound Ravager/Skullclamp or Jace the Mind Sculptor for their respective years is really confusing. Because though either of them isn't super hated today, they were EXTREMELY hated for in their relevant times.
Surprised that Sharazad isn't on that list. Playing subgame after subgame is so much fun for everybody. And when I saw that one played out in a game of Emperor (which already has space management difficulties for seating 6 players in a certain way), and some clownish player decided to fork that. well.
I didn't believe that Orcish Bowmasters wasn't that good in preview season. Its a 1/1, who cares if it occasionally pings and makes an army bigger That was, until I opened a couple copies and realized if your opponent doesn't have an answer it is a monster of a card. I run it in a Shagrat historic brawl build and it is nutty
Regarding 2003, getting Mindslavered absolutely sucks, but getting Plow Undered feels infinitely worse for some reason. I say this as one who's gotten both treatments plenty of times.
The early ones are all so unique and cool, I like that you used to be able to efficiently interact with mana bases. Sad they’re phasing that out in favor of overpowered threats and snowball resource accumulation with nothing to check it. Sometimes it’s nice to get into a top deck war.
They're really fun in vintage cube draft, but miserable in constructed. Once you reliably break the symmetry they become I-play-magic-and-you-don't cards.
I will never forget the time I resolved a Jokulhaups against Tomer on stream :) "Ok this should wrap up the game, I've got Mogis on the board and surely everyone will die before they rebuild..." Tomer rebuilt like a champ while I struggled to find lands, but eventually I Rakdos Charmed him to death, using his rebuilt board against him. The one remaining Temur player killed me with an Omnath, but I had done what I came there to do.
Nah, fable is forgivable. Plenty of really good players underrated it when it was spoiled, it wasn’t an immediately obvious mistake like Lurrus. An Unfinity card needed to be the 2022 winner
The video was very cool, touring the "saltiest commander cards" by EDHrec despite half the actual monsters of each year ignored or left as honorable mentions. I really like the idea for this series but really hope they would be more localized to time period, as this + the reanimation creature video could be answered by me googling eternal format banlists and most hated cards of commander.
"So any time you would draw cards aside from your draw for turn, i draw them instead." "Seems OK" "Now discard your hand and draw seven cards" "Hol up-!"
This list is clearly inspired by more casual players for a lot of the years but it was nice to see my most hated card, Thoughtseize, make an appearance. A card which can turn an otherwise interesting, interactive game into a one-sided borefest on T1. A card which despite everyone’s claims that it “keep degenerate decks in check” doesn’t ever seem to have done so. A card which turns black decks into a 56-card deck.
The bowmasters arent a problem atm. They've been very whatever when I've met them accross the arena. Someone might find a way to make them stronger for competative play, maybe along the lines of sword of the meek and a cheap deathtouch buff. One Ring is likely the fastest to get banned as it's necropotence with upside. I dont particularly hate the card though. Nazgul need a slight nerf, something along the lines of "If your starting deck contains at least 100 cards, you may include 9 copies of this". My most hated in lotr right now would be rosie cotton, because sitting through the opponent's combo triggers is really tedious, especially when they dont realise they are dead on board no matter how much they spam out.
I think Nazgul are too strong unlike Bowmasters; you need up to 9 removal that do at least 3 damage, deathtouch, counterspell, enchant lockdown (also can suck if it doesn't disable pump), or return (which sucks against Nazgul); or you need multiple board wipes. Nazgul players also seem to understand this and usually only play 2-3 at a time and just Tempt over and over to pump while blasting your board. With 4 x Bowmasters you only need 8 removal max if you include the amass creatures, and returns completely kill them, enchant lockdown also completely destroys amass strat by placing on army, bowmasters die to 1 damage instead of 3, etc. Much easier to deal with. If I hadn't seen so many One Ring breaking strats I'd say Nazgul is my most hated.
Most of Nazgul's problems go away when you get rid of their consistency in a 60 card format. T1 Delighted Halfling T2 Nazgul T3 Nazgul +cmc1 interaction T4 Nazgul +cmc2 interaction The nut draw can be an opening play for any golgari deck. "Fair Agro" likes the t4 kill on the play before 4cmc sweeper. Midrange likes the 3 should answer threats that accrue residual value. Control likes the board tarpit that distracts and delays while they assemble an unstoppable wincon. If you take them down to 4/60, then they are less ubiquitous, so you as the opponent can react in a more informed way. (The Nazgul player is either midrange or playing jank in 4/60)
10:25 🤣 I remember that salted & wounded egoblob's tantrum over a nothingborgar was *_VIRAL_* on the internet. It still circulates a surprisingly good amount. I saw it on ESPN5 or whatever & couldn't hold it in. I cracked up so hard that I was tearing up. I was dying. He was so unbelievably petty, I wasn't expecting he was gonna actually follow through with the table flip... Aimeen bro, it's not deep so go & chill awhile.
Ye this doesn't feel like a historical list, but rather what cards everyone hates in 2023. Winter Orb was not the most hated card in Alpha. That probably goes to Mind Twist, Balance, Sink Hole, or Strip Mine. I don't know how you could even skip over Shahrazad. Shahrazad + Regrowth + Timetwister was an actual thing until Shahrazad was just banned.
@@nekrataali absolutely this does feel like the perspective of a commander/ modern magic player rather than a person who spent time playing in that time. Imho the abyss and nether void were the most hated until 96 .
It really bums me out that land destruction is such a hated archetype these days. I grew up with it and will always love it. Shoot i run Jokulhaups in my rakdos group slug deck, but i only really use it if I'm locking up the game (it notably doesn't kill enchantments 😂)
I was expecting 2008 to be Cruel Ultimatum. It pretty much singlehandedly warped Block Constructed and is just such an incredible swing of the game state that it's a major feels-bad whenever it resolves on you.
speaking as someone who was playing 20 years ago but fell off, we hated land destruction with a passion. There's a reason the first community designed card was one that let you get land back from the graveyard.
It's his 'video voice'. This fella has been making incredible decks for at least a decade that I know of, but it makes him impossible watch for more than 10 minutes for me. Smart dude, such a bummer that he puts on this persona. Truly hate it to my core
As a blue player, it makes me chuckle a bit knowing that Cullblade, Affinity, and BlueTron will forever solidify Blue as the boogeyman of magic and that’s only scratching the surface of the last 15 years of MTG 😂
I won a local tournament thanks to not one but TWO Apocalypses. The first got countered. So I trapped my opponent into countering every single one of my direct damage instants that would kill him to cast a second apocalypse a few turns later once he was out of mana to counter spells. The guy didn't even finish the round. He grabbed his deck and smashed it on the floor screaming: "WHO THE HELL PLAYS WITH TWO APOCALYPSES?!?!". And I ironically replied: "Only me!". The store we were playing in found that so funny that everything there was a funny move during a match, people just said "Only me" in the same tone I used. 😂
One thing I don't like about your videos, is your cadence to giggle while saying a word every sentence is like your about to burst into laughing and it annoys the hell out me. I like your videos don't get me wrong its just your voice gets annoying every 5 seconds. kinda like how Ryan Reynolds whisper talks.
I can't agree with all the hate against lockdown stuff and land destruction, because Counterspells have always been way more common and way way more annoying. In that category, Force of Will is my most hated card. and in another category, every single 1 black mana "Reveal your hand and the black player chooses and forces a discard" card are super annoying for making me feel like conceding on turn 1. Hate having an opponent already know my plan and dismantling it before I've even played a land.
Narset not being mentioned indicates how insanely toxic 2019 was. She saw play in a lot of decks with wheels and ruined newer formats like oath breaker or brawl where she could be your commander. It's disheartening to play such a format only to see narset across you, knowing at t3 or 4 you'll be completely empty handed unless you have a counterspell or planeswalker removal spell
I made a mistake in 2006. Worldpurge isn't from Dissention, it's from Shadowmoor which was in 2008. Thankfully it was just an honorable mention, but still worth pointing out.
1995 could have been Jester's Cap. It yields the same effective result as Jokulhaups with all the brutal efficiency of Counterspell: it guts any deck by knowing the right to card to name. It is less fair and less fun and equalizing than Tormod's Crypt.
1996 it has to be Lion's Eye Diamond because there are no fair fun uses for the card but there are a lot of uses that could inspire someone to Jester's Cap the Diamond or Tormods Crypt your graveyard in a preemptive self defense.
OBM is annoying as hell but I honestly thought 2023's would be The One Ring.
It's okay, we all made mistakes in 2006.
You also said "it's basically just _seven_ mana restart the game..." when it does in fact cost 8 mana.
@@billdotmu Zidane and Trezeguet agree
>Make WUBRG deck
>Include every card mentioned in this video
>Make lots of friends
2019 was so bad that Nissa, Who Ruins Standard and Veil of Summer didn't even make the list.
Nice 2nd account crim, but yeah it was rough
@@zaya431green was objectively busted in half that year, and 2020. Oko, Uro, Growth Spiral, Veil of Summer, Once Upon a Time, Nissa, and Hydroid Krasis were all supposed to be in Standard at the same time, if many of them hadn’t been banned.
Nissa, Who Breaks the Game*
Also don't forget Kenrith and Fires of Invention.
@@andyspendlove1019 honestly i'd love that standard format if the cards were moved around the color pie a little bit (of course changing cards to fit their new color; i mean power wise)
@@aqswd6825 idk, with shocks and checklands being available for most of those cards’ lifetimes, I don’t know if moving them around the color pie would’ve really changed anything. Plus I wouldn’t want to see those cards real those colors for other formats 😅 the problem is with the cards themselves, which are hilariously overpowered to the point where I sincerely believe it was a tactic to boost sales of paper Standard sets in a time where that format was starting to wane in popularity, with the rise of Commander and Arena
I absolutely love the “blank” of every year videos. Always ends up highlighting overlooked cards and giving a piece of niche history along the way!
Thanks! They seem to work well for the 30th anniversary yet. I expect we'll get a few more over the next few months.
Same. This gave me upgrades for edh
Since I learned today about Stasis being done by Richard Garfield's aunt from this video which made me do some research:
She was an established artist, it wasn't just "oh my dear boy please put this into your game"
Also not sure why people would objectively hate the card because of the art...yeah it's weird but alot of MTG art back then was weird.
While I don't mind the iconic art, I think a game benefits from a more uniform look and feel. At some point, they got it right and just nailed it set after set. However, I believe they lost this streak quite a while ago. Currently everything is so uniform, it is almost bland.
@@pinobluevogel6458 While I still think MTG has the best art of any TCG ever, the switch to mostly digital art hurt the game IMO. Non digital art simply can't be totally recreated yet digitally.
This sounds weird, but digital art is almost too good.
@@mattm7798 Thanks for the response. I think you are on to something. With the advent of AI made art, this is only going to be more prevalent.
I don't want to sound like an old boomer and say everything was better in the old days, as it certainly wasn't. However, as much as I fell in love with the art being more standardized and recognizable as 'magic' art, I also slowly fell out of love with it a few years ago.
This might be the digital art issue you mention, or it could be the style they chose not being designed for players like me, or maybe their graphics department isn't as good as it used to be. I would say, it is probably a combination of all these factors.
@@pinobluevogel6458 I completely disagree. I think that the contrasting art styles gives the game more variety, I can understand that even you have your limits, but I think the game hit those limits a long time again. I'm a huge fan of the old art style with less of a focus on photorealism and a lot more abstract styles. I love the Stasis art, I think it's just great. But honestly, art is so insanely personal to evaluate that literally anyone can like any art for any reason.
I feel like at this point in Magic design history, having "MIND GOBLIN THESE NUTS!?" be the most annoying card of the year is a real achievement.
I would disagree with the 2023 choice...... The One Ring will be more hated and probably banned before Bowmasters will.
Agree. I don't think Bowmasters should get banned, but The One Ring probably needs to be emergency banned in every format it's legal in.
imagine paying 2 million dollars just to have to Rule 0 your One Ring
I lost one time vs the one ring on mtg arena, this card suxx ;)
if you watch/play Legacy then Bowmasters is definitely your most hated card of the year so far
I hate atraxa more than bow masters. Bow masters is just a strong card.
I think it is worth mentioning that Alchemy isnt hated because the cards dont exist in paper, it is hated because rather than being treated by WotC as a way to fix Standard by balancing, it is treated as a money grab that further breaks standard with OP Alchemy ridiculous cards.
i feel like alchemy could be fixed by only allowing alchemy cards in the alchemy format, and not in historic or other formats
Screw alchemy
@@283leisyes that too. I don't hate them it just feels weird.... There are definitely waaaaaay more archetypes in alchemy tho. I put together a burn list that's mostly uncommons and commons, allows me to play burn seriously which is cool.... I guess I've been kind of enjoying it lol
@@l0lan00b3 yeah dont get me wrong some of the arena-only cards are fun....but should only be with other arena-other cards
I'd say the main reason Alchemy is hated is because it pollutes Historic with perpetual and seek and conjure and all that nonsense.
I'm still utterly amazed by Ajani in 2008, no that it was hated, but by the fact that you went so in depth to identify the addition of the mechanic and the rarity in a video like this truly shows your passion for content creation
Thanks! I really love Magic history so I have a lot of fun digging into topics like this.
I'm a little sad that the planeswalker I find by far the best looking, in a color combination that I like to play (RW) is a stand-in for 2 of the things I dislike heavily about modern magic: Planeswalkers and Mythic rarity.
Teferi, or one of the many Jaces could have been a better example.
While the planeswalkers in the first set they showed up in were okay, it didn't take them long to come up with completely broken versions. They utterly dominate every lower powered format and it took Wizards years to design some reasonable removal for it.
I don't even want to start with the Mythic rarity issue, it reflects everything WotC corporate greed stands for and negatively affects the players by making necessary game pieces even more artificially scarce than they already were.
I think Elspeth would've been a better example. No one was really concerned about Ajani's rarity because it was the pre-release promo so there were a million copies floating around and you could get it for like $5.
"2014 was a great year with very very few hated cards" Siege Rhino says hello
No one actually hated siege rhino though. It was literally honored as the best card in standard at the time and so many people made goodbye videos for it
When it rotated, I burnt my copy… that ass destroyed every little deck idea I had when I returned magic that year…
Siege Rhino wasn't a hated card.
The second Siege Rhino, on the other hand...
i think it was one of the most beloved 'best cards' in history of standard. it was just an efficient "fair" card that didnt hose any archetype (no not even aggro, multiple aggro decks existed despite siege rhino)
@@jsweatisdead The second Rhino rarely arrives lubed
I would like to point out that Fay Jones the Stasis isn’t just some person, she’s a renowned artist with works on display in many places in the Pacific Northwest.
2019 is def the worst year, I hope they never approach that level again.
I have an orc and ring for you to consider
Really? Combo winter nearly killed magic.
Probably in your memory…
Bro. Winter orb
I mean I stopped playing magic in 2019 for a reason. I haven't picked the game up again since. My only exposure to magic now is through Seth, just because I like Seth as an entertainer.
Seems like a lot of these are through the lens of Commander. Commander wasn't nearly as popular when a lot of these cards came out. No way Rift was the most hated card of 2012. I seem to remember Supreme Verdict, Thragtusk/resto Angel etc. Most people wouldn't have even heard of notion thief in 2013. They WOULD definitely have had a groan inducing experience playing against Voice of Resurgence.
True-Name Nemesis deserves most hatred of 2013, no other card comes close. Not just for being awful to play against but because it started the trend of cards from supplemental sets ruining non-rotating formats
Yeah, how much to focus on commander and how much to focus on 60 card formats is one of the biggest challenges of videos like this.
People need to accept that if you should be allowed to draw a bazillion cards, people should be allowed to punish you for doing so.
Same for my 5c mana bases
That's not the problem with those cards though. The problem is that wheels punish the snot out of everyone whether they wish it or not, and often, the decks that abuse these draw punishers are also drawing a bazillion cards.
Gitaxian probe is also a solid argument for 2011, just for how many formats it was played into. It makes your deck 56 cards and gives you a bunch of free info if it's safe to storm off.
For 2006: I'm confused how worldpurge from shadowmoor is mentioned here as it is from 2 years later.
Wait, that cards not from Dissention?
@MTGGoldfish blame the hybrid mana cost, which originated in Ravnica ;)
I was there in 2010/2011. The most hated card wasn’t anything you mentioned, though those were all rightly hated. The most hated card was Squadron Hawk. The least powerful card needed for the Caw-Blade decks that annihilated standard. Stupid bird that finds more birds. Not particularly broken, but very annoying with JtMS controlling card advantage, mental misstep and mana leak controlling board state, and a handful of swords and living weapons to give to your stupid, stupid little birds.
For 1998 it was Tolarian Academy. There was all kinds of broken stuff going on, but with Academy you just knew what the rest of the game looked like. Until Academy was hit, games were just down to whos gets their academy first so you could "stroke myself until I go off and stroke you until I win." After it was banned, I got 8 of them for about $6, 4 of which became my first 4 cradles...
DUDE YOU HIT THE JACKPOT
Watching this video felt like a time capsule of emotions. This game has come a long way and so have we as players. Cheers to those who stuck around all this time!
Take a drink whenever narrator over-emphasize a syllable, and you will die.
"... making it one of the MOST aNNOYing card in the coMMANder format..."
Brb i have to get some popcorn with extra salt to watch this video
you should prolly get some low sodium popcorn, there's already enough salt in the video
Story time:
I remember way back when, at a PTQ I was playing mindslaver lock.
I was super dead on board game 1. I don't quite remember the exact board state but I remember I was dead next turn. I draw, Mindslaver (no academy ruin on board).
I play Mindslaver, crack it, get to look at opponents hand and then I say this : "I want to see the sideboard" . My opponent immediately called a judge.
Back then Mindslaver ruling was that you controlled all of the oponents actions, including peeking at sideboard. Judge ruled in my favour and opponent actually CONCEDES game 1 to make sure I don't get to see any information.
I won the second game easily after that .
Does it still allow you to see sideboard? I never even thought of that
nobody hated Divine Intervention; it was banned because forcing draws mucked with tournament matchmaking (which was still done by hand at the time).
It also wasn't even played before the ban which further shows how bizarre decisions behind bans were back in early mtg
Hoogaak from 2019 isnt on the list?
Guess it’s more hated for the response bans they chose rather than the card itself
Probably could have been a honorable mention.
The One ring is my most hated card for this year already
I play Rakdos and seeing people pause on Arena finding out in real time that it gets countered by Stomp has been a blast these past weeks.
Not since I started auto-including exile permanent removal in every deck =) and also only when they play it with Sheoldred
The real problem with thoughtsieze/inquisition etc is getting to see your hand as well. Its a lot of value tacked onto a 1 drop
This comment is correct.
Exactly.
Also, 'Ego drain' from WOE. Even if not using or having faeries in play. If you're using plenty of cards with adventures on them, then even though you loose that side of most cards who have them, the other and usually more powerful side of the card can still be used.
Like with 'Virtue of Persistence'. Most of us uses the adventure side first, but I've wondered many times, if that is really a "mistake", because it gives a warning for your opponent, and they could potentially prepare themselves for what's to come, which makes the card more fair. But even though it can use more creatures from graveyards, 'Breach the Multiverse' is more scarry, because it happens on the spot, and by having both yours and opponents top 10 cards milled, this gives a higher chance of very powerful creatures to choose from to etb. Very difficult on the other end to prepare for this, if you don't know if your opponent has Breach or not.
So if one avoided playing the adventure side of Virtue, then if able to do so, in either the same turn or the next one as playing Ego Drain, that would give your opponent significantly less time to prepare for it. And you could use Ego drain to potentially make your opponent discard a very powerful creature that you could take and use for yourself a bit later.
And there're probably other adventure cards that could be utilized/misused this way as well. Maybe even more so for eternal formats from the previous Eldraine set.
Oh, and what if one played Breach before the turn, where you'd use Ego Drain and Virtue. Then suddenly there are more potential candidates to etb under your control in the future turns to come 🤔😆😅😬
winter orb was always paired with icy manipulator which was also in Alpha
Icy Manipulator - the original Urza.
Ok, now make a commander deck with all of them in the deck.
12:20
I remember Storm, we accidentally nerfed Storm.
My play group completely misunderstood the mechanic, and reasoned that the copies still needed to be paid for, so it was only useful if you had lots of extra mana.
You invented replicate!
2004: Sensei's Divining Top
Everyone loved it at the time. Yes it was a bummer time wise but everyone loved playing with it.
Legend has it the first Top being spun is still resolving.
As someone who played high lvl mtg tournaments in my high school years 96-01, my recollection of those years is quite different. From tempest-exodus, 'tradewind rider' comes to mind, along with the omnipresent 'hatred'. The later part is very interesting for someone who has just this year gotten back in the game. As an oldtimer do miss land destruction though... Cards like wasteland used to run as standard
Ha, I've also just started a year ago after a break of 25 years. Though I only played one tournament back in the day and only for 1,5 years during the Urza block (though it seemed much longer as a 14 year old). I found the decklist of the Goblin deck I played at that tournament and it listed 4 wastelands. Of course, I sold them for little beer money shortly after, as I did with most of my academy deck (which I built shortly after the ban just for the fun of it).
Agreed, a lot of these seem to be hated now but not necessarily then.
Can we have a video for 'most hated decks'? This would be hilariously fun to watch
I'm pretty sure people hate the one ring more than orcish Bowmasters. At least that's what I have experienced. I am surprised you went with Bowmasters for 2023.
He said in another comment that he was working on this video a few weeks ago, so TOR hadn't blown up yet, and that if he did this video again, he'd pick TOR
Worldpugre came out in 2008 and in Shadowmoor not Dissension 2006.
Excellent deck tech Seth, building this for fnm now, just gotta proxy up the original duals and I'm ready to rollllllllllllllllllllllllll
While Time Stretch may be hated, it is hilarious when I get to triple or quadruple multi-cast it in our pod. My group just agreed to treat it as a win condition. If I can resolve it, they all concede in response and we move to the next game.
That's kinda what I used to do whenever someone pulled a splinter twin infinite out of nowhere, except instead of conceding we'd say "okay you auto-win, now the rest of us will play for second place," and give them a big sarcastic smile.
I distinctly remember playing Ernageddon when Ice Age hit. Seeing Jokulhaups ripped out of a pack of Ice Age, along with Orcish Lumberjack and Tinderwall made me enamored with it. Throw in a Zuran Orb and Stormbind, good times! Also, how can you not mention Plow Under from Urza's? God, that card was such a tempo screw... but not bad enough for most people to abandon all hope. It's like the chance of coming back from a couple resolved Plow Unders would keep you going, and just made it feel that much worse when you lost...
Is it wrong that I love all of these hated cards a lot? Then I don't wanna be right! 🥳
As a former and old-school Stasis player i object! It was the 1st card banned from our kitchen table, (and that was 2 years after release!) :)
Surprised Plow Under didn't get a mention in 1999. At least mass land-destruction is symmetrical. Plow Under not only is a double Stone Rain but also blanks essentially two draw steps as well. It is one of the most frustrating cards I ever had to play against, though that only happened when it was reprinted in 8th Edition.
I used to run a Plow Under speed green deck. It was so broken.
I used to play stupid green and run copies of both plow under and stunted growth. And good times were had by none.
I feel Tergrid deserves a mention, especially in Commander
During Khans, Siege Rhino was by far my most hated card... which in reality wasn't a bad thing at all
People really hated Divine Intervention? I've never seen anyone play it, it's a card designed for ante and nobody played with ante. It was banned because it could create problems in tournaments.
Wasn't played back in the day at all. I currently play it in an alt wincon tribal deck and the players that are losing are always grateful when I end the game in a tie.
It's crazy just how many cards there are for 2019 and 2020. It feels like there were way more broken cards in those two years than any other.
I absolutely love Stasis, I love the artwork made by the Aunt, and I used to have a Stasis deck back on the day.
I love Jokulhaps! Fun fact, it's a real phenomenon where ice melts due to volcanic activity but comes out from underneath a snowpack/icepack.
Fay Jones is not just Richard Garfield's aunt. She was an accomplished professional artist at that point. Her style is just not inline with MTG. But, I would 100% buy a Fey Jones Secret Lair.
If you are ever in Seattle she did the mural for the Westlake Transit Tunnel.
One card which definitely deserves an honorable Mention is Future Sight's Steamflogger Boss. The card was rare that did nothing! It was four mana for 3/3 and a joke. When it came out, everyone I knew would be so defeated opening it in a draft pack.
I can't believe bowmasters is the most hated card. It has to be the most loved one, everyone wants to play this card
and people's reaction when an opponent plays it is not as bad as when someone plays the one ring
Quite the opposite actually, The One Ring isnt really an issue since it wont win the game on its own and it doesnt prevent you from drawing cards it just helps the opponent a lot and if you know what you are doing and play around it you can get around its protection to everything.
Bowmasters is imo Sheoldred on crack because they both tax card draw except Bowmasters has 2 bodies you gotta deal with and its 2 mana compared to 4 while also having Flash becuase why not oh and did I forget to mention its also not legendary?
Also the only real good answear to a Bowmaster is your own Bowmaster which is not healthy for the game.
@@JulioDRaiany removal spell is a good answer for an orcish bowmaster. Another bowmaster isn't the greatest answer itself anyway since you have to rely on your opponent to draw cards, so you loose flexibility. And I'd argue that the massive amounts of card draw the ring provides wins games by itself in 60 card formats right now, especially since it's playable in any deck.
@@KeganKirby What removal you have that is 2 mana or less and removes both the bowmaster and the army? I'll be gald to hear all the good options we have that meet that requirement.
Also idk what 60 card format you are playing where decks dont naturally draw tons of cards especially since almost everyone is running the Ring in their decks so Bowmasters are naturally good and you dont need to build around them or anything they are just another really strong midrange card you throw into any deck that has access to black.
As a control player, I'd 100% rather face the ring than the bowmasters. Bowmasters are just Sheoldred on crack for 2, which is supremely retarded, while the ring is a 4 mana card that kills you if they counter your other rings.
@@KeganKirby
Removing the bowmaster with conventional removal would be a tempo swing for the bowmaster’s controller.. it’s a 2 for 1. Such is the problem with the FIRES design era where threats immediately generate value and snowball later on… best answer to a bowmaster is another bowmaster
2004's Possessed portal + Tegrid, God of Fright deserves an honorable mention. You don't lose the permanent/card, you GIVE IT TO THE OTHER PLAYER!!!
winter orb, also known as the orb of friendship
I always love watching these "blank every year" or the "niche moment" videos!
4:40 - Correction needed. Flash was SO POWERFUL that it was given power errata, which killed it, and it was the removal of the power errata - not Protean Hulk - which caused it to be powerful again.
I played in that time. I know first hand. Steve Menedian wrote an article about how Flash was used with Academy Rector.
People thought that Hulk combo might be too clunky and unreliable. They were wrong, but people were already buying copies for Rector Flash after the WotC began to remove power errata from Flash and other cards.
Hurts when you call "Protean" "Protein"
I love how people who play competitive Magic like to talk down on these cards that are competitive staples.
Like... SOMEONE is obviously playing them a lot, and it's not like everyone is going into a tournament to avoid annoying their opponent.
You hate when your opponent has them, but I guarantee no one out there is gonna intentionally avoid using Thoughtseize in competitive play because it's "too disruptive"
Ruin Crab and any and all Ashinok cards are my most hated, Tasha's Hideous Laughter too. I'm annoyed with mill, I can at least recover if I have a graveyard deck, but exiling mill just ticks me off.
Oona queen of the fae sends her regards
How did Oko not even get an honorable mention? Was it just so traumatising that Seth erased that busted planeswalker from his memory?
It did.. he was mentioned in the 2019 section… which seth mentioned the year also had lot of annoying cards and could probably have a section of its own..🤣
There was a brief mention in the long list of hated cards from 2019. Honestly, that year was so broken it was a bit overwhelming.
This would make a great video on its own. However, it might be nice to focus on some of the good things too, to balance it out. Almost every horrible period had its positive undercurrents. For example: even though Throne of Eldrain was completely busted and they had to ban several cards, the graphic design on the cards was surprisingly good. Making a set about fairytales and still making it cool is an achievement on its own.
@@pinobluevogel64582019 made me quit Magic. Power creep made me hate my life playing modern. I’m happy I retired since everything went downhill from there
@@MTGGoldfishthat year was the beginning of the end for MTG. Nothing was the same since then. I’m glad I quit
I feel like there was a bit too much commander focus with the exclusion of upheaval the choices for mirrodin block.
Edit: I'm confused. Didn't worldpurge come out over a year after "grand arbiter whomever the 4th".
"protein hulk"
Interesting. I'm very new to MtG (only played Arena, will find a small friend group now to have more fun) and Ragavan has already become my most hated card. Nexus of Fate is a close second.
Silly question, but is this list about the most hated card relevant to Commander? Because not seeing Arcbound Ravager/Skullclamp or Jace the Mind Sculptor for their respective years is really confusing. Because though either of them isn't super hated today, they were EXTREMELY hated for in their relevant times.
Surprised that Sharazad isn't on that list. Playing subgame after subgame is so much fun for everybody. And when I saw that one played out in a game of Emperor (which already has space management difficulties for seating 6 players in a certain way), and some clownish player decided to fork that. well.
I once built an entire deck around Jokulhaups. It almost never worked, but when it did it was hilarious chaos.
I love it when Seth randomly dumps on the Lord of the Rings movies, never fails to get a laugh from me.
I didn't believe that Orcish Bowmasters wasn't that good in preview season. Its a 1/1, who cares if it occasionally pings and makes an army bigger
That was, until I opened a couple copies and realized if your opponent doesn't have an answer it is a monster of a card.
I run it in a Shagrat historic brawl build and it is nutty
This video should be titled "The most hated cards in commander from each year".
Time revealer Teferi is just ridiculous. The static ability alone is worth 5 mana at least.
i mean we have grand abolisher at 2 mana with a much stronger ability...
That doesn't combo with Knowledge Pool.
Teferi cards have always been busted so
Regarding 2003, getting Mindslavered absolutely sucks, but getting Plow Undered feels infinitely worse for some reason. I say this as one who's gotten both treatments plenty of times.
Especially when there’s an Eternal Witness to go along with the Plow Under 😈
The early ones are all so unique and cool, I like that you used to be able to efficiently interact with mana bases. Sad they’re phasing that out in favor of overpowered threats and snowball resource accumulation with nothing to check it. Sometimes it’s nice to get into a top deck war.
They're really fun in vintage cube draft, but miserable in constructed. Once you reliably break the symmetry they become I-play-magic-and-you-don't cards.
I will never forget the time I resolved a Jokulhaups against Tomer on stream :)
"Ok this should wrap up the game, I've got Mogis on the board and surely everyone will die before they rebuild..."
Tomer rebuilt like a champ while I struggled to find lands, but eventually I Rakdos Charmed him to death, using his rebuilt board against him. The one remaining Temur player killed me with an Omnath, but I had done what I came there to do.
Not sure how Fable of the Mirror-Breaker wasn't most-hated of 2022. We all know it's true.
Facts
Nah, fable is forgivable. Plenty of really good players underrated it when it was spoiled, it wasn’t an immediately obvious mistake like Lurrus. An Unfinity card needed to be the 2022 winner
Fable is mid card outside of standard
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Mid card? Nope… it’s being used everywhere.
Cards like Jakulhaups are perfect when you're stuck at a table with a pub stomper. "Oh, I don't get to have fun? Neither do you!"
The video was very cool, touring the "saltiest commander cards" by EDHrec despite half the actual monsters of each year ignored or left as honorable mentions.
I really like the idea for this series but really hope they would be more localized to time period, as this + the reanimation creature video could be answered by me googling eternal format banlists and most hated cards of commander.
How to break worldpurge
1: tap 11 mana
2: cast worldpurge
3: maintain priority
4: cast teferi's protection
5: say bye to your friends
"So any time you would draw cards aside from your draw for turn, i draw them instead."
"Seems OK"
"Now discard your hand and draw seven cards"
"Hol up-!"
2023 not being The One Ring is kinda miss.
This list is clearly inspired by more casual players for a lot of the years but it was nice to see my most hated card, Thoughtseize, make an appearance. A card which can turn an otherwise interesting, interactive game into a one-sided borefest on T1. A card which despite everyone’s claims that it “keep degenerate decks in check” doesn’t ever seem to have done so. A card which turns black decks into a 56-card deck.
You place WAY too much influence on commander format.
I don't think Teferi is more hated than Oko. Oko had to be banned in almost every format because it warped the whole game around it.
The bowmasters arent a problem atm. They've been very whatever when I've met them accross the arena. Someone might find a way to make them stronger for competative play, maybe along the lines of sword of the meek and a cheap deathtouch buff.
One Ring is likely the fastest to get banned as it's necropotence with upside. I dont particularly hate the card though.
Nazgul need a slight nerf, something along the lines of "If your starting deck contains at least 100 cards, you may include 9 copies of this".
My most hated in lotr right now would be rosie cotton, because sitting through the opponent's combo triggers is really tedious, especially when they dont realise they are dead on board no matter how much they spam out.
I think Nazgul are too strong unlike Bowmasters; you need up to 9 removal that do at least 3 damage, deathtouch, counterspell, enchant lockdown (also can suck if it doesn't disable pump), or return (which sucks against Nazgul); or you need multiple board wipes. Nazgul players also seem to understand this and usually only play 2-3 at a time and just Tempt over and over to pump while blasting your board.
With 4 x Bowmasters you only need 8 removal max if you include the amass creatures, and returns completely kill them, enchant lockdown also completely destroys amass strat by placing on army, bowmasters die to 1 damage instead of 3, etc. Much easier to deal with.
If I hadn't seen so many One Ring breaking strats I'd say Nazgul is my most hated.
Most of Nazgul's problems go away when you get rid of their consistency in a 60 card format.
T1 Delighted Halfling
T2 Nazgul
T3 Nazgul +cmc1 interaction
T4 Nazgul +cmc2 interaction
The nut draw can be an opening play for any golgari deck. "Fair Agro" likes the t4 kill on the play before 4cmc sweeper. Midrange likes the 3 should answer threats that accrue residual value. Control likes the board tarpit that distracts and delays while they assemble an unstoppable wincon.
If you take them down to 4/60, then they are less ubiquitous, so you as the opponent can react in a more informed way. (The Nazgul player is either midrange or playing jank in 4/60)
10:25 🤣 I remember that salted & wounded egoblob's tantrum over a nothingborgar was *_VIRAL_* on the internet. It still circulates a surprisingly good amount. I saw it on ESPN5 or whatever & couldn't hold it in. I cracked up so hard that I was tearing up. I was dying. He was so unbelievably petty, I wasn't expecting he was gonna actually follow through with the table flip... Aimeen bro, it's not deep so go & chill awhile.
Most of these are fair magic or unplayed in the years they were printed so that's wild.
Ye this doesn't feel like a historical list, but rather what cards everyone hates in 2023. Winter Orb was not the most hated card in Alpha. That probably goes to Mind Twist, Balance, Sink Hole, or Strip Mine. I don't know how you could even skip over Shahrazad. Shahrazad + Regrowth + Timetwister was an actual thing until Shahrazad was just banned.
@@nekrataali absolutely this does feel like the perspective of a commander/ modern magic player rather than a person who spent time playing in that time. Imho the abyss and nether void were the most hated until 96 .
I can feel my blood start to boil at the sight of Teferi, Time Reveler.
the "wanna loose some friends" add read really got me :DD
Heh heh. Loose.
I remember that Ajani! The deck, Tropical Hut, was really fun. I played it, though, before it was even an archetype. I feel pretty proud of that.
It really bums me out that land destruction is such a hated archetype these days. I grew up with it and will always love it. Shoot i run Jokulhaups in my rakdos group slug deck, but i only really use it if I'm locking up the game (it notably doesn't kill enchantments 😂)
Stasis is god-tier. Using boomerang to flip Stasis back into your hand during an opponents turn is how you play this card.
Time elemental
I was expecting 2008 to be Cruel Ultimatum. It pretty much singlehandedly warped Block Constructed and is just such an incredible swing of the game state that it's a major feels-bad whenever it resolves on you.
One problem: no-one plays block constructed.
speaking as someone who was playing 20 years ago but fell off, we hated land destruction with a passion. There's a reason the first community designed card was one that let you get land back from the graveyard.
why are you talking like that?
It's his 'video voice'. This fella has been making incredible decks for at least a decade that I know of, but it makes him impossible watch for more than 10 minutes for me. Smart dude, such a bummer that he puts on this persona. Truly hate it to my core
I have to mute and turn on CC for these videos. Can’t get through it otherwise.
Glad someone else said what I was thinking
Put it on 1.25 speed and it's not too bad
Mute. CC.
As a blue player, it makes me chuckle a bit knowing that Cullblade, Affinity, and BlueTron will forever solidify Blue as the boogeyman of magic and that’s only scratching the surface of the last 15 years of MTG 😂
I wish you'd do a version of this focused on 60 card formats, or just competitive formats.
I won a local tournament thanks to not one but TWO Apocalypses. The first got countered. So I trapped my opponent into countering every single one of my direct damage instants that would kill him to cast a second apocalypse a few turns later once he was out of mana to counter spells. The guy didn't even finish the round. He grabbed his deck and smashed it on the floor screaming: "WHO THE HELL PLAYS WITH TWO APOCALYPSES?!?!". And I ironically replied: "Only me!".
The store we were playing in found that so funny that everything there was a funny move during a match, people just said "Only me" in the same tone I used. 😂
Colossal Dreadmaw
How DARE you
I know nothing about Magic so most of this went over my head, but that “control your opponents turn” card sounds absolutely bonkers, I love it
One thing I don't like about your videos, is your cadence to giggle while saying a word every sentence is like your about to burst into laughing and it annoys the hell out me. I like your videos don't get me wrong its just your voice gets annoying every 5 seconds. kinda like how Ryan Reynolds whisper talks.
My most hated card is Wheel of Misfortune. It's like WotC said "What if we made Wheel of Fortune, but bad and hard to understand."
I can't agree with all the hate against lockdown stuff and land destruction, because Counterspells have always been way more common and way way more annoying. In that category, Force of Will is my most hated card. and in another category, every single 1 black mana "Reveal your hand and the black player chooses and forces a discard" card are super annoying for making me feel like conceding on turn 1. Hate having an opponent already know my plan and dismantling it before I've even played a land.
So far 2023 might have to go to The One Ring. That card is truly obnoxious
Somewhere, Jace the Mind Sculptor is snickering thinking of all of the World Tour wins he handed out...
Narset not being mentioned indicates how insanely toxic 2019 was. She saw play in a lot of decks with wheels and ruined newer formats like oath breaker or brawl where she could be your commander.
It's disheartening to play such a format only to see narset across you, knowing at t3 or 4 you'll be completely empty handed unless you have a counterspell or planeswalker removal spell
2019 was behind busted though. Narset wheel didn’t come around into it hit commander tables