THE KING OF RAW DENOISING FOR 2024 IS....
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 มี.ค. 2024
- In this video we compare the latest releases of 3 popular denoisers. ON1 NoNoise 2024, DXO DeepPrime XD, and Topaz Photo AI 2. Which is the true champion? Watch and find out!
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ON1 is obvious crab, which was also my finding when I tested 2 years ago. Did not seem to change ;)
Topaz & DxO are both very good with their very own strengths and weaknesses (you have to use the adjustment sliders!). Topaz tends to look artificial sometimes, whereas DxO looks more natural and does not add things that are not there. But it's also a matter of taste.
Yes DXO's RAW denoising performance gap has widened I think. I would use Topaz more for jpeg. I use both actually 😊
@@takebetterphotos8132 I am also using both 😀
On1 struggles the most while Topaz gives the most "unrealistic" results, so DXO produces the best and most realistic results. That's my experience and opinion.
Thanks for sharing. Good improvement for ON1 though even from a low bar. Topaz is better used for jpeg. Will have to test that too 😊
Can you share your base photos somewhere - so that I can see for myself what it looks like?
thanks for the great comparison =)
Glad you liked it!
If we take the best out of each photo program and put it in a new photo program, we will have the best photo program available.
Yes no ediror is perfect. Thats why some buy more than one😀
Regarding the price: You are getting 3 products with Topaz, not only Denoising but also Sharpening and Upscaling ("Gigapixel AI" it was called before). With the upscaling being the best in the market.
That is true. If you need upscaling and lens/motion blur correction then best to get Topaz. Personally my main issue is getting rid of high ISO noise. The best is to get both😊
I have on1raw 2023 - and there is no update to the latest denoise there yet. However, sometimes you need to change the settings. Especially when there are thin, long lines. I take photos at concerts and the guitar strings come out dramatically. But just change the amount of details and sharpening and we have a beautiful, clean photo and nice strings
Thanks for the tip. Will try the said settings to see if there is a material effect. Btw, is nonoise 2024 coming to 2023? I do know that they are updating for photo raw 2024.
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Sorry - I have the latest version 2024 but it does not yet have the denoise AI update. Supposedly it will be delivered within 2 months. I have the December 2023 version
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Can you share your base photos somewhere - so that I can see for myself what it looks like?
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Can you share your base photos somewhere - so that I can see for myself what it looks like?
As far as I am aware the dng produced by all 3 programs, and Lightroom pano dng for example, are linear dng's, that is effectively, a Tif in a dng wrapper so they are not mosaiced raw files as you claim. You should be able to see this from the almost 3 fold increase in file size from the demosaiced RGB channels.
So I can't understand your logic regarding the dng being able to recover more shadow or highlight detail in further editing as they are Tif files?
Hi im merely saying export to dng allows you to recover more shadow/highlight detail than a jpeg. I did not intend to claim they are equivalent to the original raw files. Sorry for the confusion
I consider exporting as a TIFF a better option than DNG.
@@nyobunknown6983 LR, and other 'RAW' programs accept these DNG as 'RAW' files. Which means they have the best editing and workflow experience. Same as a regular RAW.
@wessmith2422 Yes that is what I understood as well. DNG is editable in a way that is similar to a RAW. Thanks for your input. DXO has an explanation on their website about it that it is like a partially processed RAW file
@@nyobunknown6983 The only advantage a dng has is that the white point has not been set. This is why DXO describe it as being similar to a raw file. The dng is demosaiced to a 16bit tif file in a dng wrapper. Any highlights or shadows not recovered during the demosaicing process that produces the dng are list forever and the can't be recovered.
Looks like DXO wins again but Topaz knocks it out the park with face recovery … Good comparison 👍
Yes they are certainly ahead of the pack. I suspect a lot of people will buy both! Thanks for watching
You ignored the extra features that Topaz PAI offers, Best in class sharpening and upsizing that the others don't have.
Yes love those features. I was focusing on denoising for the video.
As soon as you said you used the default (recommended) settings I knew this review was useless. I never, never, never use default settings.
So you don't agree with the conclusions?
@@takebetterphotos8132 I don't think your testing methodology was sufficient to come to the conclusion you did. It would take dozens of different photos with different ISOs under different lighting conditions with dozens of different settings to make a proper analysis. As such I don't know the answer as to which is the best if there even is one.
Hello, I have tried different settings (though not in this video) it doesn't move the needle on the results. But do test it out for yourself. Anyway thanks for watching and commenting!
I am sorry to say this but this is a really bad comparison video. I own 2 of these programs (On1 and Topaz version 3). The comparison showed Topaz denoising as utterly changing the photo's exposure. This NEVER happens. The results shown here must have resulted from misuse of the program by the channel. As a long-time program user, I can assure everyone that the Topaz denoising feature DOES NOT change the image exposure. Further, unlike some of the images presented here, which had some noise left after denoising by Topaz, this also resulted from the channel's misuse of the program since Topaz Photo AI can remove ALL of the noise every single time. Topaz has 3 denoising modes; if one doesn't work satisfactorily, one of the other two will completely remove it. I also recommend using the amount slider to fine-tune the correct amount of denoising.
hello there. Thanks for your feedback. I actually just used Topaz auto pilot and was comparing based on those results.
so topaz it is - for .jpg's ...
I'll be doing a comparison of Topaz vs ON1 for jpegs this week. Do watch out for that!
@@takebetterphotos8132 in my experience (yesterday), it's not that far off but topaz is superior for real estate photography
@libertyisparamount1443 the video is out do check it out