The Chinese woman who created Wing Chun kung fu
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- According to Chinese folklore, Ng Mui was one of the legendary Five Elders who escaped the Qing Dynasty destruction of Shaolin Temple and went on to spread martial arts knowledge throughout China and the rest of the world. Said to be the originator of Wing Chun, Wu Mei Pai, Dragon Style, and White Crane martial arts, Ng Mui is a seriously badass woman of epic proportions. Here's what I learned about her when researching my painting called, "The Abbess."
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Everyone, please take note that she used the words "legend", and "folklore" to qualify that it cannot be substantiated as fact.
There are now Chinese academic historians who specialize in researching the origins of kung fu who have said that it is difficult to validate whether many kung fu stories are true, or whether they were just fanciful stories. For example, do you really believe 8 immortal gods created drunken style? Highly unlikely.
One of the problems is that the origins of many kung fu style origins have no written history because they were passed down in the oral tradition where facts can get skewed or exaggerated. Even something like an Ip Man movie gets highly exaggerated and, unfortunately, many people assume they are factual like Ip Man going to America to visit Bruce Lee. It never happened.
Some believe that a more plausible origin of wing chun was that it originated from the Red Junk opera troupe with various martial artists exchanging ideas and contributing to the style.
Stories and legends are wonderful and important to keep a style alive but understand that it may just be folklore and not actually factual.
Very well said! Thank you for underscoring this important perspective.
You people are extremely stupid if you believe that Ng Mui and Wing Chun existed!!! There are NO records of EITHER ONE existing!! The Chinese have records that date back over 400 years and there are no records of either one of them existing!! The five elders are: Choi Dak Jung; Fong Daai Hung; Ma Chiu Hing; Wu Dak Tai; Lei Sik Hoi.
@@ReginaLinke yeah, Adam Chan actually outlines this idea more, where he speculates WC's origins came from 班中詠春 or red boat, he covers this in a video from 2011, (th-cam.com/video/opkNCu_y0Mk/w-d-xo.html) and there's also a pretty recent one that's much more focused on WC's origins (th-cam.com/video/II9pYRAedGk/w-d-xo.html)
@@MatthewTraceur thx for hipping me to Adam Chans‘s video 👏🏿🙌🏿!!
@@mightymeatmonsta Please do not upset yourself. I wouldn't say people are stupid for believing what they believe. People believe lots of things, and it's not through name calling but rather study and communication, through which all of us expand our understanding and appreciation of that which is previously unknown.
As a Jeet kune Do instructor I really appreciate Wing Chun as it is part of our lineage. I believe you did a wonderful job explaining the story. I know some people might disagree if it was true or not, either way it is part of Wing Chun and I believe should be carried on.
what an amazing episode. Since I was a little girl I loved watching kung fu and wing chun videos and now I am learning the wing chung 6 months. I love it, but my classes mostly focus on the fight rather that the art itself which I am lacking of. The whole beauty of it is to prevent the fight, to see the art of living in regard of the fight itself. Sending love from Poland, Europe.
You are on the right path. Your goal is true Kung Fu as I believe it was meant. 🙂
Beautifully explained, as a Wing Chun student I thoroughly enjoyed listening to this
That's wonderful! How long have you practiced?
Hello regina, please can you tell me the name of the Sifu at minute 5:07 please. I used to watch his videos when i was a kid, now I cant find him
It's not factual or history.
@@ReginaLinke Hi Regina,
Good video. Informative. As a bloke, what I love about Wing Chun Kung Fu is that it was created by a lady & taught to the 1st student, a female & the rest is history.
Just goes to show we're equal & as an egeliterian ( meaning M & F are equal in all areas despite our biological differences)
I practised Wing Chun as a teenager in the 1980's but didn't follow through. It's called life. But it has never left me. It's come & gone then back again over the past 40 or so years.
Now it's like a revival & am practicing again. But with my conditions, I can only do so with my upper body, without my legs, so I'm practicing on my own.
I can't even walk properly, let alone kick anything. So doing it properly is out the window 🪟 I'm afraid!
I've learnt the Siu Nim Tao form but from a sitting position & am studying Wing Chun Kung Fu, academically & scientifically.
@@ReginaLinke Do you practice Wing Chun kung fu by any chance?
Thank you so much. That was a wonderful presentation of an interest I’ve had for many years. You gave it so much clarity.
And the canvas! WoW 🤩
Beautiful! Thank you!
Thank YOU! Let me know if there are any other stories you're interested in hearing.
Thank you for taking the courage to explain this.
Excellent thanks! I really enjoyed this video. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos. Cheers Regina!
You're very welcome
Thank you and your paintings are gorgeous
Thank you, Susan, you are very kind!
Love your content! Keep it up!
Thank you for the encouragement.
Beautiful painting ❤
Hi Regina, that was very interesting and well researched, thankyou. I am a Wing Chun teacher and my second Master teacher was a very slender Chinese lady from Hong Kong who studied for 11 years fulltime with Master Yip Man's top student Chu Shong Tin. She was the living embodiment of the art I think. I once say her send a huge bully flying with what looked like a shrug. He was utterly defeated and she was being kind to him. As you seem a caring person I want to tell you that the real art still lives. It is not a fable that a small girl could defeat a large bully male however even women have bought into the idea that strength is only about muscle sinew and bone strength. This is untrue. Real strength, real kung fu power, is purely in the mind, the subconscious mind, the Nim Tau (anglicized Cantonese). Ng Mui's legacy lives on :)
Your painting is lovely, I am a painter as well, however the time lapse was missing. Is there another link? Kindest regards, David
I love your historic presentation, therefore you
owe my subscription; keep up the good work
I could listen to your lectures for hours
Thank you, that is so kind.
Simply outstanding. Thank you for posting this. Very informative. 👌
Sorry for the late reply, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I trained in one of the most cut down versions of Wing Chun which was Ng Mui’s style. It didn’t have all the forms, no weapons, and many of the fancy stuff wasn’t added yet.
It was a very short style to learn, only a few moves, but much practice in each of those moves. It has the low shin kick, the shin scrape, the basic slap block & punch (pok da) and grab/pull & punch (lop da)
It had elbows, finger jab to the eyes, groin strikes with the front kick or knee, throat chops, heavy emphasis on side stepping and avoiding energy coming at you. This all may seem like a lot but it’s not. Wing Chun was NOT designed for cage fighting, but for self defense and escape, nothing more. It kills me to see people talk about it like it’s Karate or jui Jitsu, it’s not for sport, not even a “fighting” style, but just, you attack me, I side step and strike your throat and then I take off 🏃♂️💨
Thank you Regina. I am truly taken by you painting of the Abbas . Ng Mei and my decades of training in Wing Chun have stimulated my curiosity and continued interest and research in to wing Chun and its history. Although there’s uncertainty , My Sifu did follow and pass on the same story you recited. As was passed to him from Ip Man. Thank you. You are a truely gifted painter. Thank you for sharing your heart and skill.
Fun history lesson, awesome art (love the vibrant colours).
You are really talented !
Thank you, I appreciate that
Thank you so much for this 🙏 I’m a huge Ng Mui fan, so glad to finally see some good content about her on TH-cam!
I'm honored I can bring something to the subject!
Lol. Your kung fu jesus never existed.
Continue with your journey. Look , research and question. I hope you will find the road to the answers you’re seeking.
Great content, got to learn Wing Chun approximately 29 years ago. I was 19 years old when I first learned it. The story that I’ve heard is that a nun was threatened with sexual harassment on a road while she was traveling. Protected herself and the people she was with. She then later passed it on to other women, to protect themselves from such. Glad there is some more clarity on the roots of Wing Chun.
This was very interesting. Thank you for sharing.
Happy to share this folk tale!
Amazing video, thank you
Glad you enjoed it!
Really happy to found this video! I also practice wing chun and its just a very interesting topic !
Glad you enjoyed it! All the best with your practice.
Thank you very much for sharing
You are mot welcome! Let me know if there's anything else you're interested in hearing about.
I love the style and i practice wing chun it is great to know about it again
Thank you for the insight.
You're very welcome.
Really cool
loved the telling and the painting! I'm also finding it a cosmically cool coincident that Im leaving the 211th comment.
211 was my candidate number at U. S. Army Special Forces Assessment and Selecting Course
21 has been one of my numbers that frequently come up in my life as a sign.
Thanks
You are most welcome, Todd.
beautiful!
Thanks for the support.
Me encanta mucho el yongchun.
Great
Perfect, I love wing chun❤
Thank you for this. I have not heard the story in a long time. Sadly closed captioning was messed up at times.
Sure thing, and sorry about the CC!
Very useful information😀🤠👍💝
I'm glad you found it interesting.
thank you Regina Linke thank you for this wonderful admiration of wing chun that inspires
me and everybody in the world who knows about its history and who follows it up till today
When i started i was with karate going for my brown belt 2nd Dan but so i left and one day came i went with my uncle to his girlfriend and i heard this screaming sense of noise when i came close it was a Chinese family training i didn't know what it was they where doing so i went closer and the one Chinese student the (youngest son) asked me what do i want then i said to the humble of my voice I'd like to learn what you are doing and it sounds very interesting from that moment on i was part of a martial art students club from there originated country where it all began (wing chun) up until today it is in my blood.
...cool picture
Good video
Thanks very much for the feedback!
I have also heard the same story from my Sifu. There is also a documentary on the American Hero Channel called kungfu nun
As I also learned it that Ngmui was one of Five Monks that had met to form what we now call wing Chun. It was formed by the five monks to help create a system of combat to help fight against the Hans as they , at the time, produced fighters in 2 years or so while it took Shaolin at that time, 10 plus years to produce fighters. So they needed a method to produce fighters a lot quicker. and as such, they took the best of Shaolin to form one cohesive method of fighting. With thst said, it was stated that "Wing Chun' was actually the Hall where they used to meet at. Later on, the person that help teach Luk Dim Boon Kwan into Wing Chun on the Red Junk Opera Boat was also one of the escaped five monks from the temple.
I liked this video
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice
Thank you
One of many origin stories :)
Hello regina, please can you tell me the name of the Sifu at minute 5:07 please. I used to watch his videos when i was a kid, now I cant find him
Of course, it's Sifu Fong Chi Wing... The clip is from Murat Kaplan. His video can be accessed from the link in the description.
The beautiful part about wing Chung is that a Buddhist nun of small stature, prayed incessantly to God, her God, which she called Buddha Siddhartha Gautama, a manifestation, like Avalokiteshvara of infinite compassion, and prayed to whatever God she knew that existed of infinite compassion to help her not get hurt because she was so small! And Buddha responded! like an avatar or a archangel, she had a response that showed her how to do the best scientific algorithm ever existed as far as self-defense is concerned. This algorithm was made famous by IP man, which was the teacher of Bruce Lee. IP man was small and stature and taught this algorithm to Bruce Lee who created Jeet Kundo, and in the book about Giocondo you can understand why are you gonna have to every once in a while switch up your cadence otherwise the enemy will be able to understand your trajectory
No the narrow stance in wing chun came from the red river boat opera performers in china who traveled from province to province by boat. The stance was used so that they could balance themself while practicing chi sao as the boat would rock side to side.
That's pretty cool and would make an interesting narrative in itself!
Cool! :D
Thank you!
Ng Mui is undoubtedly the inspiration to author Jin Yong's fictional characters Guo Xiang and Miejue Shi Tai in his Condor Heroes novels.
Really? I haven't looked into these novels but will definitely do so now. Thanks!
@@ReginaLinke i recommend it, the stories are fascinating. Jin Yong is the Asian equivalent to author JR Tolkien in fantasy novels.
Hello Regina linke about wing chun how did ipman came about it ? regarding Ng Mui concerned
I want to see a movie with ming na wen as ng music agent may from agents of shield would be awesome
❤
Beautifully said Ms. Regina as a Wing Chun practitioner it's very important that people know the origins of the art.
Thank you so much, Anthony!
@@ReginaLinke you welcome!
Hello regina, please can you tell me the name of the Sifu at minute 5:07 please. I used to watch his videos when i was a kid, now I cant find him
But please be educated do not keep passing these fairy tales as the real history of this great system.
Yes, it’s only a legend based on oral traditions. But it served its purpose during the time of struggles.
First of all, there is no trace of any records on the nun, the father, the husband, or YWC the girl.
Second, there is no nun in the Shaolin Temples. That was never a part of Shaolin tradition. This is true in the North and South Temple.
Third, the story is not logical. Why would the nun want to come out of hiding for some girl’s romantic problems? It will get both of them kill. During this time the Ching dynasty was very harsh with death penalties. The Ching authorities will kill nine generations out if you are caught as a rebel.
Fourth, YWC is a secret code. Yim means to be discreet or to be secretive. Wing means to talk or praise. Chun is the word Spring which symbolizes rebirth. Together the word means to be secretive and keep talking and praising about the rebirth of the Ming Dynasty. The nun symbolizes the roots of Wing Chun which is Shaolin.
Fifth, this whole story about the nun teaching a girl was actually borrowed or stolen oral tradition from the system of White Crane.
Six, if this story were true that means the nun has to be at least 200 years old. The Temple was destroyed in the mid to late 1600s. Based on the story of the nun teaching to YWC and then she passed on to her husband, and finally the husband passed it on to the Red Boat Opera people, this happen in the middle of the 1800s. So there is a 200 years gap. Someone in this fairy tale has a secret to long life and lived two hundred years.
Seven. For hundreds of thousands of years, the fighting is mostly done by the men, not the ladies. So if there is something more efficient for fighting, we men are the one that needs it, not only the ladies.
Also, number eight. The effective human combat system is based on human nature and physiology, not based on some girl watching two animals fighting.
The important thing here is that every oral tradition or fairy tale served its purpose. But please be educated do not keep passing these fairy tales as the real history of this great system
More than likely and truer to the facts wing chun which is southern martial art style probly was developed from other chinese southern martial art styles.
Just want to make it clear that Yong Chun or Wing Chun in cantonese is a chinese translation for Singing Springs that what it means
Austing fong is the instructor in video
Agustine Fong's W/C seems pretty legit.
I'll have to check him out. Thanks
linda!
Thank you for your support!
I've learn wing chun through youtube videos because there's no master to teach and guide me, and then later I met someone to guide me and introduce me to balintawak eskrima and as I train in Balnitawak, the wing chun I've learned improves and develope by itself together with my balintawak training because Filipino martial arts is so flexible and fluid that it's flow and method becomes what it is according to the practitioner's martial arts backgrounds. And most of all, chinese traders brought us there influences so possible our martial arts is included in that trade and exchange of chinese traders and our ancestors.
Dude, same as me. Balintanwak and wing chun go together like batman and superman, captain America and iron man
It’s interesting to Note that the Origin story of Wing Chun is the same as Chen Style Tai Chi. Even more funny is that both of those styles came out at the same time and they both use sticky hands 🙌
Where can i get a print copy of that painting ?
All prints have currently been sold, but thank you for your interest... I'll let you know if I make any more.
I’m a big fan of wing Chun and you made my dag
So glad I did, thanks for watching!
As a Wingchun practitioner taught by my father with linage to the Weng Gong Ci Wushu Guan in Yongchun county, I’d like to set the record straight. The legend of Ng Mui being the founder of Wingchun is just a legend and nothing more. The actual origin of Wingchun traces back to Yongchun County, Fujian. The original art is called Fujian White Crane, which was founded by Fang_Qiniang. Yongchun is the Mandarin pronunciation of Wingchun (Cantonese). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fujian_White_Crane
When Fujian White Crane was introduced to Foshan, it was known as Yongchun Quan or Yongchun fist. By the time this art was passed down to the next generation, many legends were made up and the connection to Yongchun county, Fujian was forgotten. Another fun fact is Okinawa Karate was also a descendent art of the Fujian White Crane from Yongchun County, Fujian.
Thank you for sharing the history and its lineage!
Hi Regina. Really interesting your video. Where did you get these informations from? I knew that Wing Chun came from a woman but there are so many details. I didn´t know that she used to live in the Forbidden City. A question please: Have you ever searched for her´s grave? Where is it? I think that many visitors have already had the pleasure to visit it. What do you think about it? Other question please: I have searched for Ng Mui drawings or self portrait but I didn´t find anything that make me feel confident because of the films made about any actress who played Ng Mui. Cheers and congratulations.
Ah enjoyed the story. If you are into movies /(and old kung-fu movies in general). A good one to see : Stranger from Shaolin (1977)/free, just search on youtube, and tells this story; with Ng Mui and Yin Wing Chun in all her glory! full of excessively oversized hats and excessive iron body/Qi or Qi gong -chi or "inner strength". Its a fun watch if your a fan of old kung fu flicks, a little silly and over the top but a must see if your looking for more Wing Chun in your life. Thanks for the vid, 🙏 -Cheers
Thanks for sharing these recommendations, especially for the nostalgic entertainment value. Cheers!
@@ReginaLinke Ah, no worries. I dabble in Wing Chun , Choy lay fut and a few other styles on my spare time and its interesting to compare contrast to what there doing on the big screen/to books/ to formal (in studio/kwoon/dujo) training. There will always be hidden training methods etc in obscure places/ one thing i can think of off the top of my head is Wing Chun ring training, not so popular these days; but never the less considered "old school" or proto Wing Chun methods. Anyway, best of luck -Cheers
Your painting is gorgeous! Do you sell your art work?
Thank you very much... the painting and prints have been sold.
Fantastic painting, very beautiful!
I can't believe there hasn't been an "origin" movie based on this nun. I would think this would be an epic movie if it was done by a great writer and director. Or, has there been a film created already?
I agree... There's a movie called "Wing Chun" starring Michelle Yeoh from more than 20 years ago, but I haven't watched it.
@@ReginaLinke: Michelle Yeoh is awesome, great actress. I'll have to check out that movie. Thanks.👍
@@ReginaLinke Yes, that's the movie. The only thing is for those require that Wing Chun looks like Wing Chun, this will look more like Wushu which is understandable given the kind of film style and time period (80s/90s) it was a part of.
so quit and lovely nice woman
Nice video. I have recently featured the art of WuMei (Ng-Mui) on my channel.
I really enjoyed that episode!
Oh really? I will check it out, thanks!
I keep
Looking at the stance and kicks and think having bound feet and a dress with a slit only up to knee has a lot to do
With the structure
Hahaha, yes definitely... It's a long-held secret that uncomfortable clothing and physical handicaps only make you stronger.
My name is Fei_chuan and the difference in styles could simply be the master solving various problems as they arise osu!
She was me in a past life
Wing Chun and the greatest Woman Ng mui IP Man wing Chun helps me through everything life and business training and respect and sense of humor and calm and control,I practice Wing Chun everyday before I go to work I sleep Wing Chun I eat Wing Chun I Walk Wing Chun my life is based upon it all
Reason the time when IP Man fought for his country that is what makes the difference there's nothing nobody else that did it the way he had done. Rest in pease IP Man
WunderBaR
Hi
Chinese culture and civilization is so awesome. That's why China is the future 🇨🇳💪
It has been said for a long time that Wu Mei did not exist, but there is a Kung Fu system with her name and several systems claim her as the founder. Well, in China, her grave has been found:
Wu Mei Shitai not far from the South Shaolin in Shaolin Village, Dongzhang Town, Fuqing City, and the old people know that this place called Dongping in the mountains of Shaolin Village used to have a nunnery. Today, the archaeological excavations are the site of the Five Ancient Tombs of Shitai and the location of the nunnery.
五枚師太墳墓 If you put those words it will take you to the Shaolin temple report.
Great video!
Only something overall (not specific for this video, just overall):
To write the chinese names in 3 single names is a little bit outdated.
Today in 2021 the western world has adopted to writhe cantonese and korea names with hyphen, and mandarin names together. From today´s standards, Wong Shun Leung should be written as:
Wong Shun-leung or Shun-Leung in cantonese and Huang Chunliang in mandarin (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Shun-leung)
Same with other names like Shan Wah-shun or Yim Wing-chun (mandarin Yan Yongchun)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yim_Wing-chun
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chan_Wah-shun
Not important but maybe interesting for some people.
So or so i like your video very much! :D
That's interesting, I wasn't aware of those standards being established.
@@ReginaLinke Sure. :)
So or so i like it because its more easy for western people with the chinese names. Make an example:
A) Wong Fei Hung
B) Wong Fei-Hung
C) Wong Fei-hung
D) Wong Feihung
A is very confusing since many ppl would think "Fei" is maybe a middle name like Fitzgerald from John Fitzgerald Kennedy.
B is much better, but its still strange since it looks like Fei-Hung are two names like Jean-Claude. But its only one name with two syllables.
C and D is the best way since anyone can see on the first look Fei-hung/Feihung is one name with two syllables like Patrick.
1Pat2rick
Nobody would ever come to the idea to write the english name Patrick as Pat Rick (A).
PS:
The mothod C is mostly used for cantonese and korean names, like Wong Fei-hung or Hwang In-shik.
The method D is mostly used for mandarin, like Huang Feihong or Li Zhenfan.
It was proven some time ago that the Ng Moi story is just a nice little fairy tale. Ip Chun Sifu admitted that his father Ip Man Sifu made up the story because he was being pressured by his students to write an article on the history of Wing Chun but he had told them many times that he did not know the full history of WCK so to satisfy the egos of his demanding students he created the whole Ng Moi story but in truth Ip Man Sifu only knew that he learned from Chan Wah Shun who learned from Leung Jan and so on. The very earliest known WCK came from the Red Boat Opera people. There is no evidence whatsoever that Ng Moi even existed.
Fun poll: Who would win in a fight between a Wing Chun and boxing?
It doesn't depend on the style but on the practitioner itself. It depends on well rounded the fighter is.
I think it would depend on the style of boxing, if you think of the more traditional Eastern and Western styles i think that Eastern boxing would possibly win i think Eastern boxing would lose, weight for weight and comparable skills that is. From what I know, having trained briefly in a few styles, Western boxing is mostly upper body strength while Eastern is more of a mix of styles that I think would adapt better against Wing Chun
That's true, the combination of each fighter's style, execution, and ability to react to the other are all factors.
Very true! I hadn't considered the weight aspect.
Wing chun
Ng Mui and I have the same birthday.
When is her (your) birthday?!
@@ReginaLinke She was born on Feb 4th. So was I.
@@Del-Canada Cool! That's my brother's birthday, too.
@@ReginaLinke I'm surrounded by Aquarians. Mom was born on the 13th, my best friend was born on the 15th, and my daughter was born on the 6th.
It’s a myth. All historians place wing chun to the Red boat operas. Almost entirely from Hakka tribe martial arts, as nearly all wing chun moves come from Hakka styles.
Hundreds of TH-cam videos depicting animals fighting (or eating) each other but I have never seen any animal style martial arts being created as a result!
Wu Mei understood and helped developed many skills and systems. She passed White Crane to those who have much time like monks and made Wing Chun as a fast way to transmit some of the high skills by making a complete but compressed style. Wu Mei(the style named after her) has 5 forms each of which utilizes its own unique and very advanced way of moving and using internal martial arts skills. The style of Wu Mei is almost lost and has only a couple masters still teach and those have diverged into different approaches. Master Yap Boh Heong has deep understanding of the Wu Mei system and perhaps a different historical link to her story through the history passed from master to student. th-cam.com/video/Qwhqp0eJhDw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/B9ywN6PJvCc/w-d-xo.html
This is great, thanks so much for sharing! I look forward to checking out these resources.
themartialman.com/the-history-of-wumei-passed-down-from-grandmaster-chee-kim-thong/
Wai Ming Chau was the sole inheritor of the Ng Mui system. Some other practitioners may have studied-but never under a designated inheritor of the system. Hsieh Peng was the 6th sole inheritor (Chau being the 7th) & only the inheritors were qualified to name the next inheritor. Anyone learning under someone whom isn’t designated as inheritor will never gain the completeness of this advanced Kung fu system
@@jeff3595 the idea of a sole inherited is a ridiculous concept. That of all those studying only one may be labeled as able to teach. This concept was created to put the situation on an untouchable pedestal and is a construct of modern egoists.
Independently if the story can be validated by historical facts, oral tradition to pass down events becomes parts of the culture of a country. In this case where there weren't written records the oral component is the only "book" available to be follow. Either way it is a good resource to start with. Nice exposed Ms Linke.
I just thought it was a cool story. 😅
But please be educated do not keep passing these fairy tales as the real history of this great system.
Yes, it’s only a legend based on oral traditions. But it served its purpose during the time of struggles.
First of all, there is no trace of any records on the nun, the father, the husband, or YWC the girl.
Second, there is no nun in the Shaolin Temples. That was never a part of Shaolin tradition. This is true in the North and South Temple.
Third, the story is not logical. Why would the nun want to come out of hiding for some girl’s romantic problems? It will get both of them kill. During this time the Ching dynasty was very harsh with death penalties. The Ching authorities will kill nine generations out if you are caught as a rebel.
Fourth, YWC is a secret code. Yim means to be discreet or to be secretive. Wing means to talk or praise. Chun is the word Spring which symbolizes rebirth. Together the word means to be secretive and keep talking and praising about the rebirth of the Ming Dynasty. The nun symbolizes the roots of Wing Chun which is Shaolin.
Fifth, this whole story about the nun teaching a girl was actually borrowed or stolen oral tradition from the system of White Crane.
Six, if this story were true that means the nun has to be at least 200 years old. The Temple was destroyed in the mid to late 1600s. Based on the story of the nun teaching to YWC and then she passed on to her husband, and finally the husband passed it on to the Red Boat Opera people, this happen in the middle of the 1800s. So there is a 200 years gap. Someone in this fairy tale has a secret to long life and lived two hundred years.
Seven. For hundreds of thousands of years, the fighting is mostly done by the men, not the ladies. So if there is something more efficient for fighting, we men are the one that needs it, not only the ladies.
Also, number eight. The effective human combat system is based on human nature and physiology, not based on some girl watching two animals fighting.
The important thing here is that every oral tradition or fairy tale served its purpose. But please be educated do not keep passing these fairy tales as the real history of this great system
I will tell you a profound realization I've had long ago. Kung fu has everything one can IMAGINE in regards to moves (types, angles, heights, forces, speeds, distances, steps, types of defenses and attacks etc.), and strategies. All these are scattered among the countless kung fu arts. It's like an huge lake and everybody has a glass of water from it.
My more profound realization is, all that kung fu includes, that is, from everything from ALL all the kf arts throughout history, is not discovered by humans, it's revealed by spirits; the intelligence behind even just building/structuring/creating a taolu/kata is not merely human. Can you discern the strategies in a taolu, the design and planning of the moves and sequences? It's inspiration given by spirits.
This was one profound realization. Most likely, no one will see it my way and that's ok. But I am 100% sure my perspective is accurate. I mean listen to the narrative: a woman (I said A WOMAN!!!???) sees how crane moves and fights with a snake, and she (a woman!) creates a martial art based on her finds??... Really?? Are we so naive and gullible to believe that? This actually makes sense to you? Can't you see that the wisdom in these arts is not from humans? Have you seen cranes and snakes fight? Can you see and understand their movements? Would you think of using their moves when fighting another human? (
wing chun and wu mei pai is indeed different, but I think this is because ng mui didnt have time to teach wing chun her kung fu, so she made a kung fu that easy to be learnt. I dont know anything about dragon style's history. ng mui isnt inventing white crane, but she brings it from tibet to china, and it is not fujian white crane (so many kung fu have crane in its name lol)
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I do not but this or aikido appeal to me more than other martial arts.
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It might be a myth bc many kung fu style are inspired from the first Chinese martial arts and the woman who made wing Chun could have inspired her own style bc she was a student in other martial arts
Kenpo karate I find is watered down. I feel wing chung is more practical
Kempo deffently needs balance with wing chun -kickboxing
Ng Mui wasn't the creator. Wu Mei was. Wing Chun was taught by Wu Mei who had not named the art. Wing chun taught her husband who named it after her.
Ng Mui (cantones) Wu Mei (mandarin) is the same person.
Rumor has it she's Chun-Li great great great great great grandmother.
I have no way to confirm that. :)
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nice. i like it. why only focus on the woman heroines ? Ng Mui / Pirate / Yang Gui Fei.
where is the rest of the emperors / heroes ?
Glad you're enjoying them. It is just an interest of mine to explore these characters in particular.
I know this but scared to use this I don't want to hurt people unless their is no another way the choice is yours .
For all of you that are stuck on records, apparently you are not aware that not all societies kept written records. The Griots of ancient Egypt passed on oral traditions, and the Arabs were known for their exceptional memorization. Get out of your biases and go research.
Research what? Sitting on our asses playing with the internet all day?
One says a fox and crane this one says a snake and crane.
Which one is it?
Oops did I get my tales mixed up? I have heard both, but I think snake is more common.
@@ReginaLinke yes its deffinitly snake! My Sifu told the origin is white crane and Oei Mey
I heard she learned snake, then later crane. She blended the styles and taught. You can still learn the style she invented named after her. She later taught Wing Chun the 3rd form from Crane which was later broken up into 3 smaller forms in the Wing Chun style. And she taught some of what she new of fighting to Wing Chun. The styles are similar but there is more taught in Ng Mei than in Wing Chun. And each evolved differently over the centuries. So Ng Mei style is Snake and Crane evolved over the centuries, and Wing Chun went into other directions because of being in the harbour cities with small boats and cramped alleys, the cooks and boatmen altered Wing Chun to fit the smaller spaces, the use of chefs cleavers and boatmen poles.
There is Crane taught in my city as well as Wing Chun and you can see the similarities and differences between the styles. Each has its own unique beauty.
Ng Mui was great because no Ng Mui no Bruce Lee
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