10 Greatest Battles In Star Trek History
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- Roddenberry may have wanted a Utopian future, but that doesn't mean it didn't kick ass.
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The battle of the Mutara Nebula was in a class by itself. I can't take this list seriously without it..
Even the battle half way to epsilon 9 is good. It’s the battle that took Kirk by surprise.
You said it brother, just rewatched that movie 2 days ago and was impressed anew by it's brilliance the battle of will and wit between Kirk and Khan plus the introduction of blood and fire to the franchise make it easily the best
Khannnnnn!!!!
Sauce for the goose me savek
I expected to see it in this list as well. It’s the Star Trek version of submarine warfare, complete with amazing ILM effects for the era.
I remember being 10 years old and watching ST6 in theaters and absolutely loved the end battle between the cloaked bird of prey and the enterprise! Fav moment ST moment ever included; Sulu's; Fly Her Apart Then!
I was 9 when I saw it in theaters and loved it.
I am skeptical of all TOS-movie battles after ST2 because we never see the Enterprise-A fire its phasers on screen.
Not even the new stuff has been able to even come close to matching shit that they pulled off on Deep Space Nine. That show is beyond epic.
...No. I'm sorry, but no. The battle in Generations was an utter embarrassment. It wasn't a battle, it was 'the Enterprise returns fire once then gets twatted over and over'.
I miss people saying 'twatted'. They don't say it in The Netherlands. If I say it, then I have to explain what it means.
Oh... you are also 100% correct too.
@@toumbryth7862 Well, don't forget season 2, where Riker said 'combat skills are a minor province of a starship captain'... they were a good deal complacent, back then.
@@toumbryth7862 I agree. When I first saw it the battle didn't bother me too much but in subsequent viewings, and knowing their phaser modulations needed to penetrate Borg shields, I would think there would be a standard battle procedure to re-modulate their own shields in the event an enemy found a way to penetrate them.
@@toumbryth7862 Do you have the same complaint about The Undiscovered Country?
@@kwebb121765 the enterprise wasn't destroyed in that movie.
Wait, what about the battle with the xindi in Enterprise? That battle is amazing as well.
I miss the "Battle of Mutara Nebula" (Star Trek II) also and the "Balance of Terror"'s battle scene (TOS)...
The final battle during the Xindi war was intense, surprised this wasn't included. It was awesome that Shran got involved.
Al the battle where Enterprise got into the middle of a fight between the Vulcans and Andorians was pretty cool.
All fantastic choices, Just a shame there was no room for the battle in "Azati Prime" The Enterprise NX-01 getting its arse handed to it by a fleet of Xindi ships, Wrecked and adrift in space powerless as the end credits roll had my jaw on the floor.
Enterprise never gets the credit it deserves. In a mirror darkly could have also made the list.
Definitely a highlight for that series.
Thank you my thoughts exactly
That scene was absolutely amazing and where season 3 finally found it's footing
I want to also make a case for the Xindi Arobrials, Primates, Aquatics, and Enterprise vs. the Xindi Insectoids, Reptilians and the Weapon. It wasn't just a hodgepodge of exploding ships, it had structure and placement, AND had definite stakes
The battle with Khan from the surprise attack until the Nebula is the best. Hard to believe you completely ignored that.
This video is bullshit.
"Stuck in the middle with garak" might just be the best joke ever on TH-cam. No need for anyone else, you can all go home
But we're already home? ;)
I think the TOS battle with the planet killer should get a nod.
Yep. The gaint ice cream cone. That was a great TOS episode.
Don't forget the music that was such an obvious inspiration for the Jaws theme.
You forgot four of the best battles in the franchise's long life: balance of Terror (a battle of wits against two principled, talented commanders and their crews), The Doomsday machine (a good man's misguded attempt to make good on past mistakes) and Ultimate Computer (a toast to captain Dumsel). And, of course, the entire ST II: TWoK, one of the hallmarks of space battles in science fiction, not only Star Trek.
Oh, I agree with those. Doomsday Machine especially. Oh, sure, we all know of Khan quoting the hell out of Moby Dick in TWoK, but this was THE Moby Dick metaphor
I rewatched Balance of Terror recently and it's become probably my favorite episode of TOS.
@@mythicaldakka It's one of the best ones, no doubt about that.
Sacrifice of Angels still gives me chills. 12/10 battle.
I know it was never filmed, but I "saw" the battle in the TOS book Dreadnaught, and if they ever decide to film it that battle would definitely make the list.
Excellent Video. I do think you left out Star Trek 2 however. That Nebula battle scene was so well done and even in our new "CGI" World today still stands up to the test of time as well. Just an amazing battle scene. I think it could have easily been number 1 on your list, it was just that good.
Honorable mention- Battle of the Mutara Nebula. ST II TWOK
w/e... ST:TWoK is THE BEST battle, most of the star trek TV and movie battles show the "ships" moving around like fighter craft which causes the battles to lose a lot in terms of realism, not that many of them didnt look "good" they just didnt look REAL.
What the Battle in the Mutara Nebula lacked was stakes. Literally, the stakes were just "stop Khan from killing Kirk" The rest of the crew mattered little, it all centered around saving Kirk. Even Khan's possession of the Genesis Device was only paid lip-service, and any related stakes thereof only existed in deleted scenes.
@@k1productions87 you seem pretty short sighted... so a historically genocidal madman with a planet killing device isnt "high enough" stakes for you... hmmm.
@@tonyf8167 Oh it would be nice if the movie itself actually presented that. The only indication we get where that is even an issue is in the deleted scenes. Beyond that, the Genesis Device is only a bargaining chip between them. And Khan just detonates it to be a Kirk killer. Even in the extended versions, Khan himself made no reference what-so-ever to any importance of having Genesis other than just having it.
Oh WE can theorize all we want, but that doesn't excuse it. That's us writing for the writers, when THEY should have been the ones doing that work.
Besides, if Khan having the Genesis Device was so important, the battle in the Mutara Nebula shouldn't have even happened. Even Joachim tries to remind him of this... but even then, we only get an incomplete sentence.
Just so much missed opportunity just to have some cool shots of starships superimposed with footage from the "cloud tank" and a few exchanges of weapons fire.
@@k1productions87 read the book, it addresses all your points and it is worth the read (Saavik was a totally gimped character in the movies)... movies dont have time and/or often cant fully actualize what is really happening...
but none of this negates my initial premise; there is a difference between a SHIP and CRAFT, a point that is often ignored in the ST franchise to the detriment many space battle scenes.
The space battles and interactions is why more thsn 15 years ago I played the PC game "Star Trek: Bridge Commander".
How did the Generations "battle" make it onto the list but the final battle of the Dominion War or the Wrath of Kahn were sadly left out?
Also, should add "Space Battles" to the title. Just "Battles" could imply ground battles too where the Siege of AR-558 would reign supreme there :)
Generations does not belong on this list, that is certain. But neither does Wrath of Khan
"Balance of Terror" (TOS) should be however. If only for the larger implications of a war with the Romulan Empire, should the Enterprise fail.
The battle from insurrection was pretty good because of Riker's perfect line: "We're through running from these bastards".
Oh wow! I cant believe you didnt include the Enterprise vs the Reliant! I find the pace of the battle and the strategy behind it far more accurate and fantastic!
Careful... if you say that too loudly, K1productions will come in and make the same dull comment about "Balance of Terror" being the "superior battle"...
Star Trek: Nemesis crosses elements from Star Trek II & Star Trek VI- it was serviceable enough, but its hard to believe that the Scimitar's cloak couldn't be penetrated as Data was there and he advised a defense against the Picard Manuever, and in Star Trek VI, Uhura , Dr. McCoy & Capt. Spock modified a photon torpedo as a heatseeker to destroy Chang's Klingon Bird-of-Prey.
Great list but much as I love Star Trek, the greatest space battle on screen has to go to the S3 ep of Babylon 5 - Severed Dreams. Now THAT is a battle.
The reason Star Trek doesn't do small craft battles usually is because their cap ship weapons are fast enough and precise enough to hit small craft. The Aircraft Carrier doesn't become the dominant force if the Battleship can hit planes WITH THEIR MAIN GUNS.
That's one of the main reasons DS9 is my favorite series
Normally I hate most narration during a video... But I love this its hilarious... Starfleet double fist club punches lol... Love your star trek videos, keep them coming mate... Love from Scotland...
Gotta be some DS9 ones in here.
Love that DS9 takes up half this list!
Operation Return. Gotta be.
That and The Way Of The Warrior.
And A Call To Arms.
There has never been a time in Star Trek when the warp core ejection system worked properly. Apparently the Pakleds developed the technology.
Voyager managed it, but just once. Why the auto-ejection system and even the backup manual ejection system always seemed to fail in tandem is beyond me! And I have always found the Galaxy Class ships to be amazing to look at on screen, they more than any other starship look like they were made for exploring deep space! They way they killed the Enterprise D, and the reason they killed Enterprise D, has always pissed me off! :-|
Actually Commander Riker and Lieutenant Commander LaForge ejected The Enterprise E Warp Core in Star Trek Insurrection in the Battle against Son'a In the Briar Patch.
"Balance of Terror"
Charge of the Light Brigade beats them all...
...as crazy as it sounds, I actually first read about it in the novelization...
... then saw it on TV during a rerun a few months later, and for someone who was used to watching TNG battles, i was like: holy shit...
You can add the battle between Enterprise D and the Hoosnuk ship.
I loved Nemesis. Hardy was a brilliant unknown at the time.
And unfortunately the unfair treatment he got from the fanbase afterward meant that Tom Hardy would have nothing to do with Star Trek ever again.
I don't get the hate behind nemesis, I think that it boils down to it not being what people had hoped for, and in movies people often hate what they weren't expecting even if they would have liked it otherwise.
The battle was also one of my favourites. Especially the triangulation of where the scimitar was using all the ships.
I think it’s just fans retaliating against losing a favorite character. Except it was Brent Spiner’s own wish to “retire” Data, as he was getting too old to play him. Sure, he ended up doing it again last year, but only episodically, and playing other Soongs (Arik and Altan) means he doesn’t need as much makeup
Me too, I don't get all the pearl clutching. I think some rabid ST:NG fan put forth a narrative and people latched onto it thinking that _everyone_ thought that way and they should too.
The Battle of Azati Prime should have been included.
Not only are they excellent battles, but they have some superb names for them. "The Battle of the Basses Rift". Beautiful.
This is probably my age and nostalgia, but my favorite Star Trek space battle is and will always be the duel with the Romulan ship in the original series - Balance of Terror.
If they redid these battles into what Discovery is with the CGI, im sure we would all be blown away more than the original scenes did.
DS9 Dominion wars provided the best for me, 600 starships vs 1200 Jem Hadar plus the klingons and the Romulans joining in...💪🏽
Damn...DS9 is the best!
i was disappointed the Battle in the Altamid sector wasn't noted here from Star Trek Beyond, but very pleased with the list and happy to see Voyager on it!!
Its time to use the Briar patch the way Brer rabbit did. A befitting prelude to this battle. Riker's lines alone should rank this battle in the top 5.
It's criminal that you didn't mention Khan! That movie arguably enabled every other item on your list!
How on Earth (in space) did the battle of Wrath of Khan not make itself onto the list... :o
Anyway, I sadly see, that now we have to wait for Axanar to see some real Star Trek again...
because Wrath of Khan was just a skirmish. "Balance of Terror" would be much higher
"Eric Foreman's dad" transcends the voyager episode, he also played the President of the Federation
The Wrath of Khan will be 40 years old next year. The overall strategy of the movie is top shelve in my book. " if transmissions are being monitored during battle" "No un-coded messages on an open channel". "By the book Admiral".
It's been over a year ... time to watch DS9 again.
On Voyager the was the battle involving The Prometheus. That was one hell of a ship
What about the battles against the Xindi in Star Trek Enterprise? Come on.
Honorable Mention:
Battle of Ceti Alpha (ENT : "Twilight"). Starfleet gets its butt kicked, but it was GLORIOUS!
i agree great gloriously produced BATTLES
Excellent choices. Although I think Dragons Teeth from STV is a honorable mention. I probably have afew others but thats top of my head
Thr battle in Call to Arms is easily my favorite
12:21 I remember jumping off the couch and cheering when the Klingons showed up......
The Battle of Sector 001 - "All new classes of ship.." including one Millennium Falcon, who probably set a faster response time than when Han traversesd the Kessel Run in 12 Parsecs instead of 20.
The best and probably most realistic of Trek battles was the TOS episode "Balance Of Terror". Not a battle of Bang, Bang Shoot 'em up but a true 1 on 1 battle of Strategy and Tactics.
The Starfleet Double Fisted Club Punch is surely the Ottoman Slap of the 23rd century.
Everything is in Space, Morty!
--Rick
A Helmsman aboard federation starships was responsible for navigation as well as the offensive and defensive systems of the ship. Considering that they must input navigation co-ordinates while defending the ship the whole time they are under a barrage of fire it must be one of the most stressful and difficult jobs on the whole ship.
Helmsman, I salute you!
You talk too much, couldn't make it past the 2nd minute. 👎🏻
First 'large scale' battle for DS9, the first battle its in the first episode/two part episode Emissary, you've got wolf 359 in part one and if that doesn't count because its a rehash of a TNG on, then part two has the station trying to fight off the Cardassians with next to now weapons.
In fleet conflicts on water, there was plenty of maneuvering from the age of sail to the big gun dreadnoughts of WWI and WWII. Which further illustrates Discovery not understanding Star Trek or warship combat.
Dude that ship-ramming scene in Nemesis is amazing.
An honorable mention in the best battles of star trek history for me would be the battle of the briar patch.
Note to the author of this Video. Go watch Star Trek 2, The Wrath of Khan and fix this list before you embarrass yourself further. The Wrath of Khan is the only reason we have Star Trek movies today. The battle, the dialogue, the music score, Richdo Montobahn, William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, in their primes! This movie set the bar as the gold standard for Star Trek.
"Surely, I have made my meaning plain. I mean to avenge myself upon you, Admiral. I deprived your ship of power, and when I swing around, I mean to deprive you of your life."
A brief mention should be made for the Battle of Procyon V.
Regarding the charge of the light brigade, they charged to take an artillery redoubt... and they bloody well did it... yes, they died after in the counter attack, but they took the bloody position!
Actually #6 is the most unrealistic one. Thousands of small ships spawn out of the DSC and ENT like they are clowns coming out of a small car. Plus: Most Navy Vessels are not aircraft carrier, thats why most neval battles are without spawning small battlers.
Dude you really need to play Starfleet Battles or Federation Commander. I think you'd have a blast.
The Scimitar looks like the ship from the video game "Descent"...I just realized that!
you made a good argument for my continuation of the discovery series
*Shows Lower Decks USS Titan in the Opening*
Me: Yes!
*Doesn't show up in the list*
Me: WTF?!
Yep, I can even imagine Riker’s reaction: I finally get to shoot someone during my cavalry save in a season finale and not have it be erased from time!
The Mutara Nebula wants to have a word with you.
Iron maiden - Trooper song also related to "Charge of the Light Brigade"
No.1 Mutara Nebula. No 2 Khitomer. No. 3 Balance of Terror (against first ever cloaked vessel in ST).... Hell I'd even put the Kobayashi Maru training sim at the beginning of WOK above some of these.
Discovery has no business in a Star Trek video of any kind.
Well said, however this channel seems to love it. What Culture lost my subscription due to being in love with Discovery.
I'm pretty sure the Defiant respawned a few episodes later with just a bit of hand waving exposition.
New battlestar Galactica did what he mention about discovery battle, where the big ships stay where they are in battle
It's so campy it's almost painful, yet at the same time the original was so campy it was on the edge of painful. I guess that is part of Star Treks charm, love star trek.
Stargate in my opinion, even while most episodes were based on a planet or in a ship rather than the ships themselves, still had some of the best fights I’ve ever seen. And these were made a long time ago
11:43 How many survived the Light Brigade charge? Wish I had the time to look it up.
that part where you said the Scimitar looks like a deep-sea fish reminded me of something:
ever seen an old movie called "battle beyond the stars"?
the villain's main ship looks like it was modeled on a Hammerhead Shark.
The Generations battle was the D's last stand. I liken it to them getting one KO punch off & it connecting before it the ref steps in for the TKO.
It's probably just me, but I enjoy the planet surveys more than the battles.:)
If Tom Hardy's Venom meets Deadpool, Deadpool should look surprised and something like "professor why are you here?"
Battle #11: Me trying to convince my wife to sit through _one more_ episode of DS9 when binge watching.
#4...i still remember the last part of the battle:
EVERYONE on the Enterprise bridge is dead except Picard.
the Klingons broadcast a surrender demand.
Picard says "that'll be the day..." sits down at the Weapons controls, and fires.
and keeps firing until the battle abruptly ends.
Kirk's first encounter with the Romulans in the original. Though the effects no where near what modern shows and movies provide. It does show a great battle against an unknown foe and the quality of the original enterprise crew. The battle with Kahn should have gotten a honorable mention. As it was far better than the fight with the cloaked bird of prey.
How can you have a list and not include Enterprise vs Reliant surprise attack? That discredits this list from the start. Not only do I call it the best in Star Trek it is the best in all of sci fi.
"Fly her apart then!!!"
Thrilled every time
The Enterprise - D wasn't at The Battle of Sector 001 as it had been destroyed after crash landing on Veridian III in Star Trek: Generations!! It was The Enterprise - E that was in the battle in first contact!!
"I shall leave you where you left me, where you left her.
Marooned for all eternity in the center of a dead planet. Buried alive. Buried alive".
"KHAAAAAN !!! KHAAAAAN !!! KHAAAAAN !!!"
The Battle of the Omarian Nebula was a one sided massacre, but it still kicked ass!
Need to re-title the video top 10 fleet battles because with one exception these all qualify as group battles/fleet battle and that would hopefully and untick off everybody talking about the reliant in the enterprise and make a second video called top 10 One on one Star Trek space battles
Having any Discovery battles on here yet missing the Mutura Nebula and Wrath of Khan makes me question the list.....
I like this list, but there are two notable battles that are missing. Balance of Terror as someone has already mentioned was an awesome battle of not only ships, but strategy between the opposing commanders. And of course, the battle with Khan was outstanding as well. Should be a top 12 list.
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As soon as they went CGI with the ships shields became less affective lol ;)
Love how shields stop H-Bomb exploding photon torpedoes' but not a ship ramming another ship with only basic metal on metal kinetic energy.
Balance of Terror is at least as good as any battle on here. its a 45 minute battle of wits between two captains both pushed to their tactical extremes. And its longer than all the other battles. WOW, you really missed it on this one, taking CGI over emotional tension as being better.
And lets not forget the Doomsday machine, especially with the updated CGI from the remastered edition. You dropped the ball on this video.
You possibly going to add and space battles from The Enterprise series?