I just feel I'm getting less for my money with a break barrel, when I spend a lot on a springer, I want levers and loading ports, the process of loading makes it feel more special. In the immortal words of Nick " In my opinion " 😂
another great vid. Thanks. Keep them coming. Ideas for video(s): Review of Weihrauchs at or near full power for those in “free” countries or with “certificates”
That difficult choice i wanted skip, thats why i bought them all except the 57 an 90, those are still on my list. 😁 Some models i have in .177 and .22. My HW80K is in .25 and a beast.
I'm in the 97K camp, I bought mine new in 2007 for $499 USD. Mine is marked Beeman on the back left side of the receiver. I've completely modded and tuned it several ways, it's currently shooting at 815 fps with a 8.48 QYS pellet. Extremely accurate. The 98 I would like to try someday, but I'm an under lever guy and .177 only cal.
Ive got two 97s MK1 25m and mk2 and just got the new 98 in my local neath gunshop the 95 was 440 and the 98 was 550 its alot nicer stock an had it tuned the 98 has jusy shocked me accuracy wise and much better ease of use and easier to hunt with
It’s £70 more 😳Well the way I see it is if you like it and can afford it buy it and enjoy it you won’t regret it and there’s no point being the richest man in the graveyard , it’s absolutely fantastic air rifle well both are but I’ve always liked break barrels 😊 absolutely fantastic video’s can’t wait for the bsa lightning tune 👍
I have a 98 with TBT, had a 97 Venom tuned, both very good indeed, I prefer breakers but there is a drawback with breakers and that's scope selection. if you want high mag long scope for serious FT for e.g. you'll better make sure not too long or it'll go over the breach and especially if you want a sunshade on. Out of the box, the best gun is the TX200 IMO, getting a 90 soon though. If I ever went back to serious FT it would be a TX200 so as not the restrict scope selection.
The 97 KT has a adjustable butpad 😁but that version is even more expensive as a 98 🤔 In my experience the hw97 is easier to shoot accurately than the hw98. I always get like 4 or 5 great shots and then a bit of a flyer. That does not happen to me with the 97. By the way both have TbT kits in them.
My 97KT did not come with an adj. butpad, but i know they where sold with adj.butpad for a while. I installed one myself but i could not get used to the plastic look so i bought a nice wooden stock instead. Only a matter of taste of coarse because the plastic stock did fit me like a glove. Cheers!
My 98 is the best break barrel ever in 177 there is no other one to match this gun and the hw77 is as good as the hw97 enjoying your reviews and look forward to seeing the rest 👍
I think the 77 is even better if you like to use iron sights too. I own one 77K and two 97's think the 77 looks better too without that no sense kind of moderator look pipe at the end.
You need to try a cometa fusion, I've seen a few guys on here who own a fusion and a 98 and they have said accuracy wise there is nothing in them and sometimes the fusion outshoots the 98
I own a Hw77 and a Hw 97 , ive owned three 80's and tended to sell them to finance a Pcp? Picked up 95's 98's in shops and to me they've always felt a bit slim and light🤔 anyway ive special ordered a 20 calibre 80 so im either going to be really happy or totally upset with the new calibre 😂 it will be TBT'd of course.
Id say the extra £70 quid pays for the nice stock, the 97 can get really expensive once ya start changing the stock from synthetic, nevermind if ya go laminate stock with silver finish😅 98 is a nice change from laminates, i even prefer the beech 98 over the special edition black laminate one they did
Easy just buy a AA TX200 or a Prosport, I’ve got both as well as a LSD grey laminate HW98, and the rifle that shots just as well is the HW90K in a custom stock 500,it is so accurate.
Under leaver is more accurate but I take my hw 98 laminate edition 177 pellet on pellets 50 metres with hawke endurance 6-24x50 perfect guns all hw are faultless......
I remember when the 77 came out and all those crappy break barrels and tap-loaders could just go back to the farmyard. The breech-loading fixed barrel system is the standard for target shooting. Try both of them at 100 yards in still air. Are the bench-rest people using the 98? I didn’t think so. The 98 is a brilliant piece of marketing and nothing more. Break-barrels aren’t safer, plenty of people missing teeth and the pretty face they were born with because of the ‘safe’ break barrel. Taps, roller-breeches, trap and pop-ups are the ‘safe’ springers.
@@buijs1967 The 97 has a factory moderator specifically designed for it, The adjustable but pad can be easily bought on eBay. And the stock on a 97 with the higher cheek piece needs no adjustment. And a fixed barrel will always be more accurate that's just physics.
I just feel I'm getting less for my money with a break barrel, when I spend a lot on a springer, I want levers and loading ports, the process of loading makes it feel more special. In the immortal words of Nick " In my opinion " 😂
You can’t beat a fixed barrel in my mind.
another great vid. Thanks. Keep them coming. Ideas for video(s):
Review of Weihrauchs at or near full power for those in “free” countries or with “certificates”
Really enjoying your new videos mate, keep up the good work, atb BAD DAZ
I own both and totally agree 👍🏻 don’t forget the 57 light weight brilliance
The 57 is still on my list. 😉
Loading port issues?
@@redpillnibbler4423 Yes i heard about that there where but that seems to be solved.
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Do you have one? What’s it like?
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I hope it’s been rectified,I would be interested in getting one.👍
Great video always have been interested in the 98. I will be interested to see why it was vertically stringing in the next video
That difficult choice i wanted skip, thats why i bought them all except the 57 an 90, those are still on my list. 😁 Some models i have in .177 and .22. My HW80K is in .25 and a beast.
I'm in the 97K camp, I bought mine new in 2007 for $499 USD. Mine is marked Beeman on the back left side of the receiver. I've completely modded and tuned it several ways, it's currently shooting at 815 fps with a 8.48 QYS pellet. Extremely accurate. The 98 I would like to try someday, but I'm an under lever guy and .177 only cal.
Ive got two 97s MK1 25m and mk2 and just got the new 98 in my local neath gunshop the 95 was 440 and the 98 was 550 its alot nicer stock an had it tuned the 98 has jusy shocked me accuracy wise and much better ease of use and easier to hunt with
Love my 97 but i just acquired a walter lgu and now finding it difficult to see which is better. That 97 stock is ❤❤❤
It’s £70 more 😳Well the way I see it is if you like it and can afford it buy it and enjoy it you won’t regret it and there’s no point being the richest man in the graveyard , it’s absolutely fantastic air rifle well both are but I’ve always liked break barrels 😊 absolutely fantastic video’s can’t wait for the bsa lightning tune 👍
back in the day the 98 was a formidable ft gun lot of championship’s win with it
100% 97, the 98 is just a 95 with a different stock and a shroud on the barrel. The 97 and TX are the best you can get.
The 97 is just a 77 with a different stock.
98 is a 95 with added vanity
95 is an 85 with added vanity
85 is a rebadged BSF
so the 98 is a dinosaur on botox
I have a 98 with TBT, had a 97 Venom tuned, both very good indeed, I prefer breakers but there is a drawback with breakers and that's scope selection. if you want high mag long scope for serious FT for e.g. you'll better make sure not too long or it'll go over the breach and especially if you want a sunshade on.
Out of the box, the best gun is the TX200 IMO, getting a 90 soon though.
If I ever went back to serious FT it would be a TX200 so as not the restrict scope selection.
Another good video Nick keep em coming 👌
97s a heavy bugger though. love mine.
Personally the peace of mind of having a fixed barrel outweighs any ‘downsides’.
The 97 KT has a adjustable butpad 😁but that version is even more expensive as a 98 🤔 In my experience the hw97 is easier to shoot accurately than the hw98. I always get like 4 or 5 great shots and then a bit of a flyer. That does not happen to me with the 97. By the way both have TbT kits in them.
My 97KT did not come with an adj. butpad, but i know they where sold with adj.butpad for a while. I installed one myself but i could not get used to the plastic look so i bought a nice wooden stock instead. Only a matter of taste of coarse because the plastic stock did fit me like a glove. Cheers!
My 98 is the best break barrel ever in 177 there is no other one to match this gun and the hw77 is as good as the hw97 enjoying your reviews and look forward to seeing the rest 👍
I think the 77 is even better if you like to use iron sights too. I own one 77K and two 97's think the 77 looks better too without that no sense kind of moderator look pipe at the end.
I think the 77 is the same gun as the 97,it just has open sights and a slightly different stock.
@@redpillnibbler4423 77 has also a longer barrel then the 97, even in the K version.
You need to try a cometa fusion, I've seen a few guys on here who own a fusion and a 98 and they have said accuracy wise there is nothing in them and sometimes the fusion outshoots the 98
@@Lander76 I also think the Cometa brand needs some more attention. They seems to be good quality for the money.
I own a Hw77 and a Hw 97 , ive owned three 80's and tended to sell them to finance a Pcp? Picked up 95's 98's in shops and to me they've always felt a bit slim and light🤔 anyway ive special ordered a 20 calibre 80 so im either going to be really happy or totally upset with the new calibre 😂 it will be TBT'd of course.
Im lucky I have both! 98 is a 95 dressed up pretty 🙂, for hunting I would take my 95.
Id say the extra £70 quid pays for the nice stock, the 97 can get really expensive once ya start changing the stock from synthetic, nevermind if ya go laminate stock with silver finish😅 98 is a nice change from laminates, i even prefer the beech 98 over the special edition black laminate one they did
Easy just buy a AA TX200 or a Prosport, I’ve got both as well as a LSD grey laminate HW98, and the rifle that shots just as well is the HW90K in a custom stock 500,it is so accurate.
Can you show the setting of the barrel adjustment screw tension on the 98 please
That is one of the things you have to be careful not tight it a lot, …..but between fixed barrel and brake barrel fixed barrel will be best 👋
Under leaver is more accurate but I take my hw 98 laminate edition 177 pellet on pellets 50 metres with hawke endurance 6-24x50 perfect guns all hw are faultless......
I remember when the 77 came out and all those crappy break barrels and tap-loaders could just go back to the farmyard. The breech-loading fixed barrel system is the standard for target shooting. Try both of them at 100 yards in still air. Are the bench-rest people using the 98? I didn’t think so. The 98 is a brilliant piece of marketing and nothing more. Break-barrels aren’t safer, plenty of people missing teeth and the pretty face they were born with because of the ‘safe’ break barrel. Taps, roller-breeches, trap and pop-ups are the ‘safe’ springers.
Do I buy the jazzy version of the HW77 or the Jazzy version of the HW95 lol
Ciao! Che tu sappia, la 97k la fanno anche depotenziata? grazie 👍
Both 🤔......
Now that there is also a HW95 S with adjustable stock available, how does this compare?
Maccari stock?
Have one of those for my TX200. Soon learned that FT was not the thing for me. Way too heavy. I prefer things light and lively.
Hi, interesting vid, which gun would you say is best for shooting target cards off trigger sticks?
97 all day long!
98 is just a 95 with a poncey stock, a barrel weight and is overpriced
True, but the adjustable stock and butpad and 1/2UNF on the newer ones, justify the higher price compared to a standard 97 in my opinion.
@@buijs1967 The 97 has a factory moderator specifically designed for it, The adjustable but pad can be easily bought on eBay. And the stock on a 97 with the higher cheek piece needs no adjustment. And a fixed barrel will always be more accurate that's just physics.
A tarted-up old BSF or a world beating fixed barrel.
It’s not even a comparison.
Not a fair comparison when one of them is in a fancy, custom stock and a pointless video without shooting them anyway.
Yo, guys,,,is the laminate stock a standard item ,or is it a special,,its wonderful