Your channel is singlehandedly the best air rifle review channel out there. Honestly, the professionalism in everything you do, scripting, cinematography, unbiased reviews...it tops them all. Your effort makes them days when I get back from work shafted, so much easier to get on and shoot after. To get some me time! Invaluable mental tool these vids. Here's to many, many more! Cheers.
Thank you kindly. I’m sure she’s glad to get me from under her feet sometimes. we do try to promote the Airgun community and a sense of enjoyment and safety. stay safe. Andy & Mrs AAR x x
I have shot air rifles for the last 54 years. Had a few in my time but my favorite is my BSA S10 in .22. A friend let me try his BSA R10 in 177, what a gun!!, so accurate you could cleanly shot the nuts of a gnat at 30 yards. Trying to think of an excuse to get one!.
Just entered the 177 fac family with my own purchase of a FX Dreamline bullpup. I could not agree more with you comments of this superb calibre at 18ft/lbs. Love it. Superb and so capable. Great video content. Si
Talking BSA - a few months ago my dad handed me his original BSA Meteor and in its original box too. It even has the small bottle of oil that came with it. It still shoots accurately using the BSA scope it came with after all these years and has an oddly satisfying kick though it is really loud compared to my RM8 carbine.
@Ejuice Vaper When I said original I should have stated that it the first ever released model of that rifle (I think 1959-ish). So considering it's all still as it came and shoots well is saying something. And yes, I agree, shooting with open sites and then moving to scope is a good way of developing accuracy as well as patience.
Absolutely brilliant video and I have to agree that the .177 is the most underrated FAC gun in the bag. 18ftlb is ideal for up to 50m (and beyond on a still day ) with very humane dispatch and accuracy, ideal for enclosed barns and round live stock where collateral damage has to be avoided but longer range/terminal efficiency for the pests is needed. I wonder if the possible slugs being talked about in the caliber will finally materialise as this would most definitely put an end to people tittering quietly about the "lowly" .177. Oh and a note about Spain and the 18ftlb rule, yes thats with out Certificate but all Air Weapons are "in theory" banned from any type of hunting or pest control though as with most things there it is a tad flexibly enforced.
I have the BSA R10 SE in .177 cal. I have the right handed Walnut version. Iam getting 50 shots per fill. It shoots 10.34 gr. JSB around 900 fps. I absolutely love this rifle. It can still get 820 fps with the JSB 13.43 gr. Monsters. Thanks brother for your excellent review. I think the UK should change the laws to at least 30 ft pounds. This would be ideal for most. 177, or. 22 rifles. Or unlimited for Air Rifles. Put in perspective. A. 22 long rifle powder burner using CCI STINGER bullets gets 190 ft pounds of energy. Most Air Rifles 30 cal. and under, aren't even half that. Times have changed. Better laws will only increase sales. God bless you!!! From the USA!!!👍👍👍😎😎🎯🎯
Personally I agree *but* I can't see this happening in the UK sadly. In some ways we're lucky to have the 12ft/lb in some countries it's terrible, think in Ireland it's 1 joule! It's especially ridiculous in the UK though as the way the certificate system works it's technically easier to get a 2+1 semi-automatic shotgun than a 20ft/lb .177!
@@Ryan.90 I agree. What's sad is that the same people that have a problem with the 20ft pound 177cal, have no problem whatsoever shipping in certain individuals far more dangerous to society.
Thanks to your channel and a couple of others I acquired my first pcp rifle this month. An avenger in 22cal. with a wood stock. The extra weight makes it easier for me to steady. The vermin in Florida needed another thing to worry about. Thanks for a great channel.
totally agree with the 18fpe for us non FAC holders. Would eliminate many problems for the fans of .177 calibre. Yet another quality video from you 2. I owned a BSA goldstar SE a couple of years back and I thought that the gun was not very accurate. It turned out it was me not understanding how to shot properly. Watching videos like yours helps me to understand shooting, and therefore I have improved as an air rifle shooter using a sub 12fpe set up. thanks Andy and the misses. 👍
THANK YOU!! This is the first time any channel has discuss the issue of the sub 12 ft lb law in the UK! I really appreciate your view on that as well as your explanation of what's going on with the law. I really appreciate your view on asking people to petition their lawmakers if they so choose to and your explanation of what fac stands for and how you all get this FAC designation. I do feel bad for you all that you have to go through this rigmarole just to get a full-blown rifle that the rest of the world is allowed to have. Congratulations with your channel, you do a fine job 🤗😊
You deserve sponsors my friend. You have earned your following because of your honest unbiased reviews. You do not seem like a man that would let that change.
Hello, I am an American viewer and I am often intrigued with how big of a fan of silencers you are, I rarely hear of aftermarket silencers in my area. I personally shoot only Benjamin air rifles with Redfield optics. I appreciate the high quality videos you produce and thoroughly enjoy watching your videos
I agree, I have two sub 12ft lb air rifles. First one I bought was a BSA scorpion se Como in 1.77. Second one was going to be the gun I wanted first, which was a Weihrauch 110 again in 1.77. I have a number of issues with the Weihrauch, loss of power, not cycling and firing. And firing by it's self on safety. The BSA no issues, and it's my go to gun. By the way I use H&N Baracuda Match in the BSA and Bisley Magnum in the Weihrauch. I recently tried Hades. Good hitting power but not very accurate, ok for 15 yeard ratting.
You can easily tune up the r10mk2 or SE to around 25ft lbs, slinging jsb exact beast 16 grains to 880 fps. Get a Huma reg. Set it to 150bar. The R10 has a rear hammer guide. Flip it on to the front to act as a hammer weight(or you can machine a small circular weight), crank up the hammer spring and youre done. You can also get a 300cc carbon fiber cylinder from best fittings as well.
Great review as usual Andy. Really appreciate your time you and your wife put into the show. I have a FAC regal also. Had a absolute nightmare with it. Once i obtained my licence i sent it to Daystate to be uprated to 40ft. When i got it back from Daystate the problems began. The magazine didnt index properly, the rifle inconsistent with accuracy, the bolt would lock out, pellet fussy etc etc. To top it of on 15 shots befoe refilling. I felt like crying after spending so much money on it. I was going to give up then i decided to take it to my local gunsmith. John from Caunton was amazing. He found the probe had been bent. The bolt was loose and has changed the power to 28 ft after changing all the O rings and servicing it (rifle only a year old) Now it shoots like a dream and the only problem is i haven't had chance to zero it since the lockdown. Can't wait to get it set up so i can get out on my 100 acres of permission 😃
Have a think about dropping the power down to 22 or less you'll get more shots & have a wider choice of pellets. !8 is really nice in .22 too out to 60 yards & great accuracy.
Hi Andy, I have to agree with you about the 19ft/lbs, and the R10. I have a .22 R10 SE And it is superb. I did have to change the Regulator for a Huma though. The Scorpion Se is also a fantastic bit of kit. Looking forward to the BSA 'range' test. Brilliant review, keep up the good work.
@@bigb5681 I would love to own a pistol at that power! I really enjoy pistols anyway and wish Andy would cover them more. they could stick a little red dot (or a scope) on it, and BOOM... Much more convenient. I do have a scope on my HW75 but most of the time I prefer irons on pistols, or red dots.
Just found this channel, it's so nice to see a UK based airgun source that is so down to earth. This is my second video, and I am already subscribed. Looking forward to catching up and viewing new content.
I think 18ft lbs is reasonable provided the owner / buyer understands the safe & appropriate use of an air rifle. Perhaps a safety certificate issued by a recognised organisation or gun club, like they do in some other countries?
In my country (Poland) to own a FAC rifle you only need to pass a mental test and tell the police that you have one five days from buying it, if you passed the test - which is easy of you're a normal sane person - they cannot say that you can't own one. This being said, the police never checks power of airguns inless they were used in a crime and even if you get caught with an unregistered one, you just pay a moderate fine - so many people who own FAC guns don't even bother with registering them. And I didn't hear about one used in a crime or some kind of horrible incident.
I’ve two slots on my FAC it’s not until the last 2 years I’ve seriously considered putting in for it it was granted 3 months ago until fx and slugs came along my options would of just been a basic 30/40ftlb Theoben or impact but now I’m looking at a .22 fx impact and .22 dreamline both running at different speeds
You make an excellent point about the limit being raised to 18ft lbs. I have thought the same for a long while. In fact, I would be prepared to see an Airgun Licencing system being introduced that would make it easier to own Airguns up to say 24 or 30ft lb. That wod give more control over the idiots that misuse Airguns without the onerous restrictions of a full FAC for the vast majority of sensible owners.
Andy even in sub 12 my little air arms s200 .177 was a much preferred vermin tool, often running very close to the limit, and using the heavier choices of pellets it accounted for most of my vermin kills. On a personal preference note I would rather use an Airforce rifle with a .25 barrel shooting either slugs or solid lead bullets for my 100fpe FAC shooting as it is far lighter and has the capability of in the field power adjustment right down to sub 12fpe if deemed prudent. But that's just me and I love casting my own ammo. Any road up your channel is by far the most interesting and informative for us UK shooters, keep up the excellent work.
Great review!! That Wolverine .303 is a beast, way to heavy for hunting. I have a PCP with scope at 6 1/4 lbs in .177 regulated to 120 bar = 840 fps for 10.8 fpe at 40 yards with a 10.5 pellet have taken coyotes, fox and raccoon, shot placement is everything. CCI subsonic 22lr 1070 fps is 90+ fpe @ 50 yards , CCI 960 quiets 22lr 730 fps is 40+ fpe @ 50 yards and quieter than the PCP.. just can’t get excited about the big bore air rifles 🤷🏻♂️. Always looking for new vids from you and the wife. Thanks I’m in the Western U.S. without any regulations on air guns so far OMG they are coming out with 700 + fpe toys.
Well he's loyal to his Country, all 3 are British air rifles and none are by anyway cheap. Its good to see BSA is still in business, I remember looking at their guns back in the late 70's when my Beeman catalog would show up in the mail, filled with high end imported European air rifles. How about Webley, was that the name? I think I remember that being another British company, most of the rest were German made match rifles. . Ill have to check the good old internet on Webley.
I agree 18ftlb would be much better than the present 12ftlb. However I don't believe this would be achievable legally in the UK. As a collector I have had to over look some really nice Rifles because of power outputs exceeding 12ftlbs and the need for FAC. With regards to the BSA R10, this a fantastic Rifle and extremely accurate, one of my favorites too Andy! Great video, really enjoy all of them, excellent research and information, made clear and understandable. Thank you. 👍
In sub 12 I love the. 20 calibre ,its so over looked, I've got two rifles in that calibre and I use them the most, I even shoot hft with one of them, the extra power at distance knocks targets over much better than a. 177.
Neither have extra 'power'. Power is ft/b of energy. so a .20 and a .177 and a .22 and a .25 all running at 12ft/b all have the exact same power. The main differential, especially for HFT, is accuracy. Power as a concept is irrelevant if you cant hit the thing you're aiming at. If you have 50ft/b but you hit the dirt its pointless. Under the UK law - 12ft/b maximum, then the .177 has the highest velocity and therefor the flattest trajectory, which is why almost all HFT/FT shooters use .177
Totally agree about the BSA R-10 it is a cracking rifle it’s accurate and so reliable. I did have the Ultra se in .22 but I traded it in for the R-10 mk2 carbine in .177 after seeing and falling in love with it after a member at our club shooting the R-10 but not the carbine version. So far fingers crossed 🤞 I’ve had no troubles or problems with mine when I used it but sadly I don’t shoot it much any more after leaving the gun range as just got to crazy with so many members and most of the time you had to take turns in 30min sessions on the gun lanes and the club was only open for few hours so didn’t get much shooting in. Shame really as I love shooting rifles. Maybe I should get back into it.
Your presentations are excellent. All my guns are magnum break barrels. My favorite , SIG asp20 in .177. A squirrel busting machine. Thanks and keep up the good show.
To AAR I would like to thank you for the lucid reviews you post. Loving to watch and listen to true reviews without any productmanagemant. Please do pardon me for my English, since it is not my primary language. Anyhow, Thanks
Andy, I know this is late, but your videos are so amazing I honestly would not care if you got any sponsors or money for your work. I know you'd still give great and honest reviews
Great to hear with such clarity Andy during the intro of your past associations with certain businesses and your previous links with them and the new greater focus toward absolute independence. Hopefully all those sending items for you to review in future will be completely aware of this fact. No holds barred reviews are refreshing to say the least. It was lovely to see your wife taking a slightly more prominent role and shooting in the video also. Perhaps it would be particularly nice Andy to properly introduce her to everyone in the next video, instead of people having to refer to her as Mrs AAR! Your video editing was even more slick than usual and seeing the split screens was very modern. I hope at some point that you make the shift to 4k as that's always the way to go. Exciting times for you both no doubt. Keep up the great work.😃
Great video and interesting opinion on the .177 FAC. I think it makes for a compelling argument for accuracy and power, so much so I have ordered one for my collection. And very nice shooting by the Mrs's. Wow, she is very steady and calm. That was all wind creating that tell tale spread in her group. Love the show and thanks for the wonderful content.
I've not been watching you for long but watching u has got me more jnto shooting always had springers for back garden fun but today I'm buy the hatsan at44 tactical due to your review on the normal hatsan at44-10 big thank you
Thanks Andy, great video as always, I love BSA rifles, albeit I live not far from the factory and it's a British company, the R10 sub 12lb is my dream rifle.
Good honest review,i went fac a few years ago and never looked back,i went with a .303 hilite,still stunning but way lighter and with the carbon buddy bottle i can eek out 20 decent shots,my regal has 30 ft lbs and also have a airwolf with 40 ftlb,it was a bit of a tank but took off the heavy 500cc buddy bottle and fitted a best fittings 500cc carbon which transformed the rifle to my go to hunting airgun,i also bought a .25 renegade tactical which i ordered with 60 ftlbs,got it delivered just before they brought out the regulated versions which was a bit silly as the regulator would have gave me another 10 shots 🙁 will maybe get it done at some point.keep up the good work Andy👍
Hi Andy been avidly watching your superb videos but you forgot to mention Northern Ireland where you need a FAC for any air rifle sub 12 FPE or greater. Most are FAC versions and fall into the Banded System. Have a look
This is cool! I recently managed to fix my .177 cal Soviet-Era Baikal IZM-38P. Nothing comparible to the stuff featured here, just a break action springer with dovetailed-in iron sights, but can still get pellets moving at a fair clip, around 750fps, (from what I've heard) and does actually have compacity to mount a scope. With a more powerful spring in it, it would probably become a quite viable little gun. I honestly didn't realize they went this beyond, well, toys though. Very interesting!
Ironically here in N.Ireland you need a F.A.C. for anything from a bb firing co2 upwards but that does include a full bore semi auto rifle ,a handgun and shotgun, I've a Ruger mini 14 and Sig sauer 226 but like many have bought an air rifle (a Benjamin .22) for pest control.
Another really good video, I have BSA Meteor Evo and am looking at getting something with some more power but I'd love to see a review on a full line-up of BSA's
Back in the day I had my share of Weihrauch's, and even a Saxby Palmer bolt action, but my last owned air rifle a BSA Airsporter Stutzen out shot them all. More on BSA for definate please. 👍
Without doubt the best Gun Review and Information site in Britain. Equally nice to see you giving BSA a thumbs up as I own a R10TH and my first gun was a BSA Magnum 365 .25 bought in 1987. It is in absolute mint condition but the .177 R10TH is equally amazing. Great channel and keep up the good work.
Having done some 100m competition shooting - Daystate 303 needs to be single fed. This will significantly increase accuracy. Also changing to the newer all black magazine, (the old one shown rubbish).The old one squeezes skirts too tight. Also only 5 usable shots 230-190bar for sub MOA. Ps. Try FX hybrids, they work surprisingly well.
Andy (and Mrs AAR), thanks for the review. I too think the R10 Mk2 is my all time favourite. Looking forward to a BSA line up. (Also, sitting here in my AAR Fleece!)
The BSA r ten rifles are just as good as any fx,daystate, etc, yes the metal work is different shades of black, but thats the only negative I can give, I've had the r ten rifles from the mk1 onwards, and although I know there were some problems with the regulators on the early ones ,I was lucky I've never had a problem at all, I've had five so far over the last 11 years, and I still love the latest version and I hope the rifle stays in production for years to come.
Just to correct you re the Huntsman Regal Xl....you say the magazine are anti 'double loading'. I've done it many times to the point where I've had to discipline myself....I load just before I take the shot. Daystate missed a trick by not making a slightly larger diameter mag that would have a blank chamber for the last position. The probe wouldn't go in and you'd know you're 'out'. Instead you take the shot and frighten quarry off. I have nothing but praise for the maker of CARM mags who has added a round AND the blank chamber. True, they index onto the pellet but the indexing spring is so light, no damage is sustained. My FAC running at 30'Lb with JSB 18.13. Nice tight groups and with a steady aim, pigeon to 60 yards.
Love your channel, it's by far the best air gun oriented channel in TH-cam. I have gotten a lot of good tips from you as a beginner hobbyist and hope to see a lot of new videos from you in the future. I particularly love how responsible you are with the gun safety and thorough you are with the reviews. Meanwhile I'm focusing on modding my Crosman AK1 (witch I chose from your recomendation) and building my indoors shooting range to my basement. Keep up the good work!
That daystate Huntsman is incredibly beautiful, The wolverine .303 is awesome also , I usually prefer the black guns or military style just because I be afraid of scratching that Wolverine it would be too nice for me to take it into the woods LOL
BSA r10 guns had some problems over the years mainly with regs . I agree 18 ftlbs would be ideal, specially in .177 . The best BSA gun imo is the ultra
Love your channel. It's crazy in the USA I can buy a 705 ft lb .50cal air rifle for around $900 no permit or licences needed. Can buy it right on amazon.
The .177 fac isn't a waste of time. It just shouldn't really require a fac. As you say though it currently does so thats that. I'm defo not risking a firearms charge so its sub 12lb for me for now.
Greatly Appreciate your being open with the integrity of your business and greatly appreciate your candor and ability to work with other supplies and companies to get the most stuff for your customer. Also I wish go could review higher powered guns than 12 ft lbs guns.
Hi Andy very exciting news in the pre video . i,ll be looking forward to all the new content on it's way . Any way back to the said video on your F.A.C collection very nice indeed young man , it would be good to see a video of your full collection including my favs pistols .Thanks for a very interesting informative video . ( Ivan )
Excellent reviews! Tempting me to invest in a PCP air rifle. I've enjoyed airguns for years, recently got more into firearms, getting the itch to get back into air powered more.
regarding his opinion on the spanish limit of eighteen foot pounds being all around a more practical limit than twelve foot pounds i totally agree and would like to add one other point and that is that an eighteen foot pound limit would reduce the need to have an fac gun of thirty to ninty foot pounds for a lot of people
Well done Mr & Mrs AAR, love it, I am thinking of getting a BSA R TH or a Daystate huntsman regal , not sure witch ? That's 12 ft not fac, 👍👍👍👌🌈stay safe.
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Your channel is singlehandedly the best air rifle review channel out there. Honestly, the professionalism in everything you do, scripting, cinematography, unbiased reviews...it tops them all. Your effort makes them days when I get back from work shafted, so much easier to get on and shoot after. To get some me time! Invaluable mental tool these vids. Here's to many, many more! Cheers.
A BIG Amen 👍👍👍
Amen
Thank you , Mrs. AAR for your participation and for sharing Andy with us . You are both an asset to the airgun community . Cheers from Texas !
Thank you kindly. I’m sure she’s glad to get me from under her feet sometimes. we do try to promote the Airgun community and a sense of enjoyment and safety. stay safe. Andy & Mrs AAR x x
I have shot air rifles for the last 54 years. Had a few in my time but my favorite is my BSA S10 in .22. A friend let me try his BSA R10 in 177, what a gun!!, so accurate you could cleanly shot the nuts of a gnat at 30 yards. Trying to think of an excuse to get one!.
Get one to help reduce the gnat population. Problem solved.
Today i got An r10mk2, it's a beast indeed.
Just entered the 177 fac family with my own purchase of a FX Dreamline bullpup. I could not agree more with you comments of this superb calibre at 18ft/lbs. Love it. Superb and so capable. Great video content. Si
Talking BSA - a few months ago my dad handed me his original BSA Meteor and in its original box too. It even has the small bottle of oil that came with it. It still shoots accurately using the BSA scope it came with after all these years and has an oddly satisfying kick though it is really loud compared to my RM8 carbine.
@Ejuice Vaper When I said original I should have stated that it the first ever released model of that rifle (I think 1959-ish). So considering it's all still as it came and shoots well is saying something. And yes, I agree, shooting with open sites and then moving to scope is a good way of developing accuracy as well as patience.
I can honestly say it is you alone that has both encouraged me to get into air rifles and since watching your videos, I've bought 6.
I have had my trusty .22 HW80 for 44 years it's a bit heavy but still does the job well, great show Andy keep up the good work.
Absolutely brilliant video and I have to agree that the .177 is the most underrated FAC gun in the bag. 18ftlb is ideal for up to 50m (and beyond on a still day ) with very humane dispatch and accuracy, ideal for enclosed barns and round live stock where collateral damage has to be avoided but longer range/terminal efficiency for the pests is needed. I wonder if the possible slugs being talked about in the caliber will finally materialise as this would most definitely put an end to people tittering quietly about the "lowly" .177. Oh and a note about Spain and the 18ftlb rule, yes thats with out Certificate but all Air Weapons are "in theory" banned from any type of hunting or pest control though as with most things there it is a tad flexibly enforced.
I have the BSA R10 SE in .177 cal.
I have the right handed Walnut version.
Iam getting 50 shots per fill. It shoots 10.34 gr. JSB around 900 fps.
I absolutely love this rifle. It can still get 820 fps with the JSB 13.43 gr. Monsters.
Thanks brother for your excellent review.
I think the UK should change the laws to at least 30 ft pounds. This would be ideal for most. 177, or. 22 rifles. Or unlimited for Air Rifles.
Put in perspective. A. 22 long rifle powder burner using CCI STINGER bullets gets 190 ft pounds of energy.
Most Air Rifles 30 cal. and under, aren't even half that.
Times have changed. Better laws will only increase sales. God bless you!!!
From the USA!!!👍👍👍😎😎🎯🎯
Personally I agree *but* I can't see this happening in the UK sadly.
In some ways we're lucky to have the 12ft/lb in some countries it's terrible, think in Ireland it's 1 joule!
It's especially ridiculous in the UK though as the way the certificate system works it's technically easier to get a 2+1 semi-automatic shotgun than a 20ft/lb .177!
@@Ryan.90 I agree. What's sad is that the same people that have a problem with the 20ft pound 177cal, have no problem whatsoever shipping in certain individuals far more dangerous to society.
You do fantastic work Andy! You are one to emulate. Thanks to the Mrs as well.
My first FAC was 2006 Air Force Condor, after that 3 Steyr FAC, Sam Yang FAC, Daystate Ranger FAC, PP700 FAC modified.
Nice to see Mrs AAR!
Thanks to your channel and a couple of others I acquired my first pcp rifle this month. An avenger in 22cal. with a wood stock. The extra weight makes it easier for me to steady. The vermin in Florida needed another thing to worry about. Thanks for a great channel.
My Gamo Coyote .22 FAC is a my go to rife for accuracy and dispatch - Superb bit of kit
I had the .177 BSA I loved it and regularly took rabbits out to 60-70M cleanly. Mine did prefer the 10.65Gr baracuda match in 4.52mm.
BSA Meteor was my first air rifle, so looking forward to seeing the BSA range!
totally agree with the 18fpe for us non FAC holders. Would eliminate many problems for the fans of .177 calibre. Yet another quality video from you 2. I owned a BSA goldstar SE a couple of years back and I thought that the gun was not very accurate. It turned out it was me not understanding how to shot properly. Watching videos like yours helps me to understand shooting, and therefore I have improved as an air rifle shooter using a sub 12fpe set up. thanks Andy and the misses. 👍
I come here often because I believe you are very candid and sincere with your reviews.
THANK YOU!! This is the first time any channel has discuss the issue of the sub 12 ft lb law in the UK! I really appreciate your view on that as well as your explanation of what's going on with the law. I really appreciate your view on asking people to petition their lawmakers if they so choose to and your explanation of what fac stands for and how you all get this FAC designation. I do feel bad for you all that you have to go through this rigmarole just to get a full-blown rifle that the rest of the world is allowed to have. Congratulations with your channel, you do a fine job 🤗😊
You deserve sponsors my friend. You have earned your following because of your honest unbiased reviews. You do not seem like a man that would let that change.
Hello, I am an American viewer and I am often intrigued with how big of a fan of silencers you are, I rarely hear of aftermarket silencers in my area. I personally shoot only Benjamin air rifles with Redfield optics. I appreciate the high quality videos you produce and thoroughly enjoy watching your videos
I just ordered the BSA R10 SE in .22 caliber, glad to see its your favorite. Can't wait for mine to arrive in a few days and start shooting!
I love the fact that the Missis had her hands on the BSA! Bet she gets first “dibs” when you guys shoot together! 😊
I agree, I have two sub 12ft lb air rifles. First one I bought was a BSA scorpion se Como in 1.77. Second one was going to be the gun I wanted first, which was a Weihrauch 110 again in 1.77. I have a number of issues with the Weihrauch, loss of power, not cycling and firing. And firing by it's self on safety. The BSA no issues, and it's my go to gun. By the way I use H&N Baracuda Match in the BSA and Bisley Magnum in the Weihrauch. I recently tried Hades. Good hitting power but not very accurate, ok for 15 yeard ratting.
Nice garden setup behind you
You can easily tune up the r10mk2 or SE to around 25ft lbs, slinging jsb exact beast 16 grains to 880 fps. Get a Huma reg. Set it to 150bar. The R10 has a rear hammer guide. Flip it on to the front to act as a hammer weight(or you can machine a small circular weight), crank up the hammer spring and youre done. You can also get a 300cc carbon fiber cylinder from best fittings as well.
Great review as usual Andy. Really appreciate your time you and your wife put into the show.
I have a FAC regal also. Had a absolute nightmare with it. Once i obtained my licence i sent it to Daystate to be uprated to 40ft.
When i got it back from Daystate the problems began. The magazine didnt index properly, the rifle inconsistent with accuracy, the bolt would lock out, pellet fussy etc etc. To top it of on 15 shots befoe refilling. I felt like crying after spending so much money on it. I was going to give up then i decided to take it to my local gunsmith.
John from Caunton was amazing. He found the probe had been bent. The bolt was loose and has changed the power to 28 ft after changing all the O rings and servicing it (rifle only a year old) Now it shoots like a dream and the only problem is i haven't had chance to zero it since the lockdown.
Can't wait to get it set up so i can get out on my 100 acres of permission 😃
Have a think about dropping the power down to 22 or less you'll get more shots & have a wider choice of pellets. !8 is really nice in .22 too out to 60 yards & great accuracy.
Hi Andy, I have to agree with you about the 19ft/lbs, and the R10. I have a .22 R10 SE And it is superb. I did have to change the Regulator for a Huma though. The Scorpion Se is also a fantastic bit of kit. Looking forward to the BSA 'range' test.
Brilliant review, keep up the good work.
Andy....keep keeping it real. The unbiased reviews and opinions are well respected and needed in the community
I too think 18 FPE is fair, we should all start a petition. Also, pistols should be allowed up to 10/12 FPE..
allowing pistols to be 12 ft/lbs would make trappers happy cause they wouldn't have to carry a rifle around
@@bigb5681 I would love to own a pistol at that power! I really enjoy pistols anyway and wish Andy would cover them more.
they could stick a little red dot (or a scope) on it, and BOOM... Much more convenient. I do have a scope on my HW75 but most of the time I prefer irons on pistols, or red dots.
Y'all have FPE limits?
*laughs in airforce Texan *
@@justinmochi7323 yep a 7ft lb air pistol is in the same category as a sawn off shotgun or smg.
@@justinmochi7323 over here you get arrested if you so much as breathe aggressively
Another brilliant insight to FAC guns, looking forward the the "BSA shootout", that will be worth watching, stay safe.
Just found this channel, it's so nice to see a UK based airgun source that is so down to earth. This is my second video, and I am already subscribed. Looking forward to catching up and viewing new content.
I think 18ft lbs is reasonable provided the owner / buyer understands the safe & appropriate use of an air rifle. Perhaps a safety certificate issued by a recognised organisation or gun club, like they do in some other countries?
In my country (Poland) to own a FAC rifle you only need to pass a mental test and tell the police that you have one five days from buying it, if you passed the test - which is easy of you're a normal sane person - they cannot say that you can't own one. This being said, the police never checks power of airguns inless they were used in a crime and even if you get caught with an unregistered one, you just pay a moderate fine - so many people who own FAC guns don't even bother with registering them.
And I didn't hear about one used in a crime or some kind of horrible incident.
I’ve two slots on my FAC it’s not until the last 2 years I’ve seriously considered putting in for it it was granted 3 months ago until fx and slugs came along my options would of just been a basic 30/40ftlb Theoben or impact but now I’m looking at a .22 fx impact and .22 dreamline both running at different speeds
Another fair, balanced and informative review of three great guns. Thanks !
You make an excellent point about the limit being raised to 18ft lbs. I have thought the same for a long while. In fact, I would be prepared to see an Airgun Licencing system being introduced that would make it easier to own Airguns up to say 24 or 30ft lb. That wod give more control over the idiots that misuse Airguns without the onerous restrictions of a full FAC for the vast majority of sensible owners.
Andy even in sub 12 my little air arms s200 .177 was a much preferred vermin tool, often running very close to the limit, and using the heavier choices of pellets it accounted for most of my vermin kills. On a personal preference note I would rather use an Airforce rifle with a .25 barrel shooting either slugs or solid lead bullets for my 100fpe FAC shooting as it is far lighter and has the capability of in the field power adjustment right down to sub 12fpe if deemed prudent. But that's just me and I love casting my own ammo. Any road up your channel is by far the most interesting and informative for us UK shooters, keep up the excellent work.
I would give up airgunning today not tomorrow if i was restricted to sub 12fpe.At any rate,thanks Andy,I enjoy your reviews.
You are one of the reasons I got back into air pistols and rifles in 2020.💪🏻🇺🇸
Love your program Andy and I don't even own an airgun... but now I really want to get one again!
Great review!! That Wolverine .303 is a beast, way to heavy for hunting. I have a PCP with scope at 6 1/4 lbs in .177 regulated to 120 bar = 840 fps for 10.8 fpe at 40 yards with a 10.5 pellet have taken coyotes, fox and raccoon, shot placement is everything. CCI subsonic 22lr 1070 fps is 90+ fpe @ 50 yards , CCI 960 quiets 22lr 730 fps is 40+ fpe @ 50 yards and quieter than the PCP.. just can’t get excited about the big bore air rifles 🤷🏻♂️. Always looking for new vids from you and the wife. Thanks I’m in the Western U.S. without any regulations on air guns so far OMG they are coming out with 700 + fpe toys.
Well he's loyal to his Country, all 3 are British air rifles and none are by anyway cheap. Its good to see BSA is still in business, I remember looking at their guns back in the late 70's when my Beeman catalog would show up in the mail, filled with high end imported European air rifles. How about Webley, was that the name? I think I remember that being another British company, most of the rest were German made match rifles. . Ill have to check the good old internet on Webley.
I agree 18ftlb would be much better than the present 12ftlb. However I don't believe this would be achievable legally in the UK. As a collector I have had to over look some really nice Rifles because of power outputs exceeding 12ftlbs and the need for FAC. With regards to the BSA R10, this a fantastic Rifle and extremely accurate, one of my favorites too Andy!
Great video, really enjoy all of them, excellent research and information, made clear and understandable. Thank you. 👍
Really enjoyed this especially the bit on BSA R10 in .177 FAC being good after seeing many people slating it.
They all look and sound great. I just wonder why you mount your scopes so high.
Your outdoor sofa area back drop looks stunning!
I don't think you can beat the looks of the BSA R10, and the walnut stocks are great
Wow this channel is like an encyclopedia of air guns. I’m super glad I found you sir.
Agree! I have started my own playlist and don’t trust anyone else really.
In sub 12 I love the. 20 calibre ,its so over looked, I've got two rifles in that calibre and I use them the most, I even shoot hft with one of them, the extra power at distance knocks targets over much better than a. 177.
Neither have extra 'power'. Power is ft/b of energy. so a .20 and a .177 and a .22 and a .25 all running at 12ft/b all have the exact same power. The main differential, especially for HFT, is accuracy. Power as a concept is irrelevant if you cant hit the thing you're aiming at. If you have 50ft/b but you hit the dirt its pointless. Under the UK law - 12ft/b maximum, then the .177 has the highest velocity and therefor the flattest trajectory, which is why almost all HFT/FT shooters use .177
Totally agree about the BSA R-10 it is a cracking rifle it’s accurate and so reliable. I did have the Ultra se in .22 but I traded it in for the R-10 mk2 carbine in .177 after seeing and falling in love with it after a member at our club shooting the R-10 but not the carbine version. So far fingers crossed 🤞 I’ve had no troubles or problems with mine when I used it but sadly I don’t shoot it much any more after leaving the gun range as just got to crazy with so many members and most of the time you had to take turns in 30min sessions on the gun lanes and the club was only open for few hours so didn’t get much shooting in. Shame really as I love shooting rifles. Maybe I should get back into it.
I run a royal Stirling Gold on my one hw35,and hawkes for my own 35 as ones my sons,.
Your presentations are excellent. All my guns are magnum break barrels. My favorite , SIG asp20 in .177. A squirrel busting machine. Thanks and keep up the good show.
To AAR
I would like to thank you for the lucid reviews you post.
Loving to watch and listen to true reviews without any productmanagemant.
Please do pardon me for my English, since it is not my primary language.
Anyhow, Thanks
it's Oct 222. it's amazing how things have changed
Andy, I know this is late, but your videos are so amazing I honestly would not care if you got any sponsors or money for your work. I know you'd still give great and honest reviews
Great to hear with such clarity Andy during the intro of your past associations with certain businesses and your previous links with them and the new greater focus toward absolute independence. Hopefully all those sending items for you to review in future will be completely aware of this fact. No holds barred reviews are refreshing to say the least. It was lovely to see your wife taking a slightly more prominent role and shooting in the video also. Perhaps it would be particularly nice Andy to properly introduce her to everyone in the next video, instead of people having to refer to her as Mrs AAR! Your video editing was even more slick than usual and seeing the split screens was very modern. I hope at some point that you make the shift to 4k as that's always the way to go. Exciting times for you both no doubt. Keep up the great work.😃
Great video and interesting opinion on the .177 FAC. I think it makes for a compelling argument for accuracy and power, so much so I have ordered one for my collection. And very nice shooting by the Mrs's. Wow, she is very steady and calm. That was all wind creating that tell tale spread in her group. Love the show and thanks for the wonderful content.
I was just going to find out what "FAC" meant, but ended up watching the whole video. It was great!!!! Thanks, Bruh......
I’m fixing to find out too, here in a minute.
I've not been watching you for long but watching u has got me more jnto shooting always had springers for back garden fun but today I'm buy the hatsan at44 tactical due to your review on the normal hatsan at44-10 big thank you
Thanks Andy, great video as always, I love BSA rifles, albeit I live not far from the factory and it's a British company, the R10 sub 12lb is my dream rifle.
Good honest review,i went fac a few years ago and never looked back,i went with a .303 hilite,still stunning but way lighter and with the carbon buddy bottle i can eek out 20 decent shots,my regal has 30 ft lbs and also have a airwolf with 40 ftlb,it was a bit of a tank but took off the heavy 500cc buddy bottle and fitted a best fittings 500cc carbon which transformed the rifle to my go to hunting airgun,i also bought a .25 renegade tactical which i ordered with 60 ftlbs,got it delivered just before they brought out the regulated versions which was a bit silly as the regulator would have gave me another 10 shots 🙁 will maybe get it done at some point.keep up the good work Andy👍
BSA R TEN acquired. New to shooting, but your review, helped me decide, Andy. Feels a quality item and I'm looking forward to shooting.
Honest informative review, thanks Andy, I look forward to the all BSA line up.
I for one appreciate your honest independent reviews and salute you and have just ordered a BSAr10TH caerbine Black Pepper cant wait
Hi Andy been avidly watching your superb videos but you forgot to mention Northern Ireland where you need a FAC for any air rifle sub 12 FPE or greater. Most are FAC versions and fall into the Banded System. Have a look
This is cool! I recently managed to fix my .177 cal Soviet-Era Baikal IZM-38P. Nothing comparible to the stuff featured here, just a break action springer with dovetailed-in iron sights, but can still get pellets moving at a fair clip, around 750fps, (from what I've heard) and does actually have compacity to mount a scope. With a more powerful spring in it, it would probably become a quite viable little gun. I honestly didn't realize they went this beyond, well, toys though. Very interesting!
Ironically here in N.Ireland you need a F.A.C. for anything from a bb firing co2 upwards but that does include a full bore semi auto rifle ,a handgun and shotgun, I've a Ruger mini 14 and Sig sauer 226 but like many have bought an air rifle (a Benjamin .22) for pest control.
Another really good video, I have BSA Meteor Evo and am looking at getting something with some more power but I'd love to see a review on a full line-up of BSA's
Great stuff. I'm looking forward the the BSA range video. Thanks.👍
Back in the day I had my share of Weihrauch's, and even a Saxby Palmer bolt action, but my last owned air rifle a BSA Airsporter Stutzen out shot them all. More on BSA for definate please. 👍
Without doubt the best Gun Review and Information site in Britain. Equally nice to see you giving BSA a thumbs up as I own a R10TH and my first gun was a BSA Magnum 365 .25 bought in 1987. It is in absolute mint condition but the .177 R10TH is equally amazing. Great channel and keep up the good work.
From one independent collector to another, just a great channel buddy. Well done again 😎👍
QUALITY REVIEWS EVERY TIME.
Great idea to do a BSA lineup review, like you I wonder why so few are covering their excellent products.
Having done some 100m competition shooting - Daystate 303 needs to be single fed. This will significantly increase accuracy. Also changing to the newer all black magazine, (the old one shown rubbish).The old one squeezes skirts too tight. Also only 5 usable shots 230-190bar for sub MOA. Ps. Try FX hybrids, they work surprisingly well.
Andy (and Mrs AAR), thanks for the review. I too think the R10 Mk2 is my all time favourite. Looking forward to a BSA line up. (Also, sitting here in my AAR Fleece!)
The BSA r ten rifles are just as good as any fx,daystate, etc, yes the metal work is different shades of black, but thats the only negative I can give, I've had the r ten rifles from the mk1 onwards, and although I know there were some problems with the regulators on the early ones ,I was lucky I've never had a problem at all, I've had five so far over the last 11 years, and I still love the latest version and I hope the rifle stays in production for years to come.
Love your work sir, sure would be nice if manufacturers polished the sears on their guns! Thank you brutha, Mac from Washington DC.
Brilliant video Mr & Mrs AAR.
Thank you for staying independent and all the very best for the future 👍
Just to correct you re the Huntsman Regal Xl....you say the magazine are anti 'double loading'. I've done it many times to the point where I've had to discipline myself....I load just before I take the shot. Daystate missed a trick by not making a slightly larger diameter mag that would have a blank chamber for the last position. The probe wouldn't go in and you'd know you're 'out'. Instead you take the shot and frighten quarry off. I have nothing but praise for the maker of CARM mags who has added a round AND the blank chamber. True, they index onto the pellet but the indexing spring is so light, no damage is sustained. My FAC running at 30'Lb with JSB 18.13. Nice tight groups and with a steady aim, pigeon to 60 yards.
Love your channel, it's by far the best air gun oriented channel in TH-cam. I have gotten a lot of good tips from you as a beginner hobbyist and hope to see a lot of new videos from you in the future. I particularly love how responsible you are with the gun safety and thorough you are with the reviews.
Meanwhile I'm focusing on modding my Crosman AK1 (witch I chose from your recomendation) and building my indoors shooting range to my basement.
Keep up the good work!
I wish you well, from Northern Ireland, love your work!
That daystate Huntsman is incredibly beautiful,
The wolverine .303 is awesome also , I usually prefer the black guns or military style just because I be afraid of scratching that Wolverine it would be too nice for me to take it into the woods LOL
CHEER'S on 50k subscribers!
BSA r10 guns had some problems over the years mainly with regs . I agree 18 ftlbs would be ideal, specially in .177 . The best BSA gun imo is the ultra
Love your channel. It's crazy in the USA I can buy a 705 ft lb .50cal air rifle for around $900 no permit or licences needed. Can buy it right on amazon.
the impact power of the pellet hitting the target shook it so much I thought you were having an earthquake
The .177 fac isn't a waste of time. It just shouldn't really require a fac. As you say though it currently does so thats that. I'm defo not risking a firearms charge so its sub 12lb for me for now.
What a brilliant video guys. Thanks andy😊👌😃
another great vid andy but tut tut for the rust on both fill ports on the daystates
Greatly Appreciate your being open with the integrity of your business and greatly appreciate your candor and ability to work with other supplies and companies to get the most stuff for your customer. Also I wish go could review higher powered guns than 12 ft lbs guns.
Hi Andy very exciting news in the pre video . i,ll be looking forward to all the new content on it's way . Any way back to the said video on your F.A.C collection very nice indeed young man , it would be good to see a video of your full collection including my favs pistols .Thanks for a very interesting informative video . ( Ivan )
Excellent reviews! Tempting me to invest in a PCP air rifle. I've enjoyed airguns for years, recently got more into firearms, getting the itch to get back into air powered more.
Good job you two... great team!! Man I love that BSA and now you’ve opened my eyes to .177 again lol. Stay on top, never filtered by persuasion 👊
Please do full BSA review thanks for your great work
regarding his opinion on the spanish limit of eighteen foot pounds being all around a more practical limit than twelve foot pounds i totally agree and would like to add one other point and that is that an eighteen foot pound limit would reduce the need to have an fac gun of thirty to ninty foot pounds for a lot of people
I bought a bsa r10mk2 today and it's damn Nice to shoot.
Great video and very informative, thank you 👏👏👍👍
Well done Mr & Mrs AAR, love it, I am thinking of getting a BSA R TH or a Daystate huntsman regal , not sure witch ? That's 12 ft not fac, 👍👍👍👌🌈stay safe.