The anode will erode during this process. If you do a lot of this you'll notice the rebar gets thinner over time. If you reverse the polarity your part will erode. The surface will become grainy as metal is lost. Electrolysis has been heavily studied by the archeology departments of various universities (Texas A&M for instance) where it is used to conserve iron artifacts. They have recommendations for how much current to use based on the surface area of the part. The 1st choice for chemical to dissolve in the water is lye (NaOH) - its supposed to give the best results in a 2% solution by weight. Sodium hydroxide is a bit nasty though and so a close second would be the sodium carbonate (washing soda) in a 5% solution by weight. Its usually available in the laundry aisle of the grocery store but if you can't find it, you can make your own from baking soda. Put the baking soda in a glass baking dish and bake it at 250F for an hour or so. The sodium bicarbonate decomposes to sodium carbonate with the release of some carbon dioxide gas. You can easily tell if you've achieved the conversion because baking soda has a salty taste and washing soda tastes bitter (spit don't swallow!). After electrolysis your part will have a black coating which is another type of iron oxide called magnetite. Its essentially the same stuff as mill scale. You can take it off mechanically as with the wire wheel. Another way is with HCl (hydrochloric or muriatic acid) which should be diluted with water 3:1. Follow up with thorough rinsing and drying before you prime and paint. Avoid heating the part to dry it faster or it may flash rust. Magnetite will not hold a paint finish so it must be removed.
After treating iron with muriatic/hydrochloric acid and a water rinse always followup with an ammonia wash and water rinse. This will dramatically reduce flash rusting (sometimes for weeks). Try and use a 10% janitorial ammonia (household ammonia is only 3%) Ace Hardware stocks 10% ammonia. Afterward, it's safe to dry with non-petroleum heat (no torches) or water dis-placers (WD-40) unless you're painting.
Dont know if you guys gives a damn but if you're bored like me atm then you can stream all of the new movies and series on InstaFlixxer. I've been streaming with my gf lately =)
I tried this for the first time on a couple of pairs of pliers that we're in the bottom of my toolbox. Totally seized with a heavy layer of rust. After about ten hours I cleaned them off with a wire brush and both worked excellent. After I cleaned off all the rust I sprayed them down with some good quality penetrating oil and put the in a Ziploc baggie for a couple of days. Now I have two more pliers back in service.
Thanks for this video! I was looking for a material to show to my class about the use of electrolysis. It just isn't enough to discuss it to them , they need to know its meaningful use too!
I just wanted to add a little helpful info , Some battery chargers are automatic , If they do not see a 12 volt current they will not turn on and perform like you want them too , I have found using a car battery to be useful by using wires to hook up the part you are trying to de-rust and then attaching the other ends to the battery then hook up your battery charger to the battery to keep the battery charged and complete the electrolysis cycle ...
Electrolysis will release hydrogen at the cathode and oxygen at the anode. So don't do this in an enclosed space. Just a heads up for everyone else wanting to do this.
Brandon c IMPORTANT safety tip. Thank you! This is much like charging a car battery. You never want to do it in a confined space especially around pilot lights. Thanks Brandon!
Because hydrogen is flammable and when mixed with oxygen it's more of a bomb then fiery explosion. It's not really that big of an issue if you're doing this the same way it's done in the video since the amount of gas released is quite small.
Only really an issue for prolonged periods of time or on a large scale. It takes a lot of both gases to be of concern, otherwise it will just be diluted by the air. If you're worried, have a fan circulating air in a room and you'll be fine. Doing this once in a while over night, not likely to create enough gases to risk blowing yourself up. If it's a small part like in the video though, you're better off using distilled white vinegar anyways. All you need is a plastic container and the white vinegar. Drop the part in and come back like 8 hours later with a wire brush.
The one and only way that I know is better than what you showed in this vid is to increase the size of the anode. A flat piece of steel as large as can be fit into the container works best. Increased surface area increases the speed at which the process happens. Otherwise, yet another great vid. Thanks Tyler.
Hailing from Barbados, and thanking the Bleepin Jeep team. i have and 89 xj and i have learnt a lot from you guys... But the electrolysis video.....LOVE IT LOVE IT. keep up the good work guys
Wow that came out minty mint! Nice job there Tyler, this was awesome. Another trick of the trade to try and store in the memory bank. Cool stuff, and very well explained. Thanks guys. Pidge.
Great job, I love watching electrolysis videos. Also electrolysis videos to help dye aluminum different colors and turn titanium pretty colors. One thing to add, don't mix metals in electrolysis like aluminum or copper it can ruin one metal while doing the job on another. Stick to iron in one bath of solution. The bubbles forming are the gases of the molecules breaking free from the chemical bonds. A good example is 2 electrodes in distilled water, a negative and a positive rod. The negative rod will have hydrogen(H+) gas bubbles since neg-pos and the Positive rod will have oxygen(O-) gas bubbles Negative->positive rod.
I think it was this video that first led me to BleepinJeep, a few years ago now. Can't even remember what I was looking for rust removal for, but glad I found you guys. Thanks!
You can use the same process to electroplate items. You can also create a mask for your part out of tape and electro-etch patterns and cut outs. Pretty cool stuff, though we always used pool pellets to do it.
Having done this many times over the years, I can tell you that the amount of washing soda (sodium carbonate [not bi-carbonate]) **does** make a difference, as this is what creates the conductivity between the anode and cathode. With higher amps (up to several hundred) and higher voltage (12-24v) and a1/2c to 1 cup of washing side dissolved in the water, you will see a LOT of bubbles and fizzing activity, and it's unlikely you will need to use a wire wheel at all.
I have heard that after you have electrolysed the rust off, you can zinc plate the part to protect from future rust by replacing the iron anode with a zinc anode and electrolysing again.
Suscribed for life!! people like you that actually take the time to prove things like this actually works. dumb question, does it matter if you use tap or distilled water?
Actually...I did my whole trailer frame this way. Piled up a 12" dirt berm around it, lined the berm w/single sheet of plastic, placed large scrap sheet metal on the bottom (my sacrificial anode). Some small plastic blocks on top of that, upon which my rusted, ol trailer frame sat. I took off the axles, but could've just as easily flipped it over with wheels sticking up out of the water. Hooked up the appropriate wires, filled w/water & pre-mixed bucket of electrolyte...and plug in! Easy Peasy! (Pro-Tip---Works better if you hook up a battery to the solution and just let the charger keep the battery charged)
If you put more curent and more voltage the proces will be faster? I have a 50 v ,65 to 120 Amps trasformer and sure its has a 200A ,4 diodes bridge rectifier.
+Viricial Its an old Rod Stick welding machine witch i modified or you can say i put a rectifing bridge on it.The machine has its original leads and crocodile style clamps.Big clamps i my add.The wire is 20 mm in diameter (not 20 Square mm) .I dont know in awg sorry.They are thick like a pointing finger.
Could you use wire hangers to hold both steel anode and object, instead of wood and clamps etc.? Wire could loop around objects then have hooks with "terminals" since wire is easy to shape.
great tutorial,the only thing i would like to add is it does work with baking soda. (i couldnt get washing soda in ireland) just used some baking soda and it worked great, might take a bit longer but it still works
Alan Conway Yes, you really just need some sort of electrolyte to make the water more conductive. I recommend the washing soda because it dissolves so easily and is really inexpensive. Like you said though, if you cant get washing soda, baking soda will work. You may have to put a bit more in the water though.
Another H&S point. Don't use any stainless steel in the system as I have been told that it decomposes into some very nasty/toxic chemicals, hexavalent chromium. Love the video and the humour, and no I don't want to derust me parts.
Got myself an old 200 amp linear power supply and a kiddy pool ( Turtle shape of course) it srsly took bout 10min to shine up my 8.8 solid rear axel like new
Yes, Negative to positive. Most of the world has it wrong. Even after it was proven, the majority of the world wont accept it. So your on the right track. DC. leaves out at Negative, and return to positive. The hot side of a battery is the negative post. It leaves the negative post, goes through ur car back to the positive post of the battery. Notice that you put the charging cable from alternator on to the positive post. Adding power back to the battery. So as the electrons move from the negative charge, they carry the rust toward the positive charge in their wake. Hope this gives a better understanding of how it works.
Hey Tyler! If you use scrap stainless steel for the anode it won't dissolve near as quickly, your water won't get all gunky, and your electrolyte will last about forever.
Yes, but using SS also releases Hexavalent Chromium which is incredibly toxic and all but impossible to dispose of. Creating or storing it without a license is actually a criminal offense in most states.
Electrons flow from positive to negative. For best results make the re-bar the cathode and the part the anode. This way the rust will move more quickly from the part to the re-bar.
The negative pulls the hydrogen (because it's positively charged) and the Positive pulls the oxygen (neg. charge). Oxidation is what causes rust to form. Oxygen is required for just about any degrading chemical reaction, that's why it's called oxidation. The positive lead in any electrolysis setup is always corroded and crud covered while the negatives are spotless. I have always noticed that but never thought to use it to clean metal parts (I use electrolysis in making hydrogen fuel cells and am in an in between phase trying to turn it into a business for myself). That is a clever idea. Where did you get it from and why do you use the washing version of baking soda vs. regular baking soda?
Nice video, thanks. Question, does the entire part have to be submerged? The reason I ask is that I have a bike frame that has rust in one corner and if I could just dip that corner into the liquid, that would make finding a container easier.
Will this work on carbarator housing. My friend has a old one off of a old bobcat from the 70s. I know a ultrasonic cleaner would be best but he doesn't have one.
Use baking soda in the water, you'll get better connectivity. Don't purchase the Soda Wash, it's like $11 more than generic baking soda which is around $3.50 for a big box. It's all just Sodium bicarbonate. A half cup in a five gallon bucket is plenty. You'll see it fizz, it's pretty cool. You can do it in different time settings if you want the patina to stay. Leave it in long enough and it will vanish.
What other Products are good instead of washing soda? my dad used vinniger and Electrolysis to clean out a motorcycle gas tank it worked really well. let me know
I tried this a few times and started to think the charger was a type that couldn't do the job, I was wrong and almost bought another. Turns out adding MORE washing soda is all it took. The stuff is cheap put more in! After adding about 3x more I could see the bubbles forming and it was working.
Thanks for the informative video. I set this up at home to de-rust a corroded BBQ grill. I bought the cheapest battery charger, but sadly it had some built-in analytical system which automatically switched the charger off because it recognized that it wasn't attached to a car battery. Oh dear, so frustrating. Be careful if you are buying a charger, why does it have to be so complicated!?
Reuse it later, it lasts forever. Dilute it and pour it onto the lawn. The trace iron is what's used in spray-on "Weed And Feed". Don't do that if you have used a Stainless Steel anode, as there will be Cadmium in the solution.
Hi can I use dc adapter plugged in to home electrical (will be stripped off) but with different volt and ampere? e.g 19v 5a? What's the point of using 12v 2a? pls reply thanks
Yea absolutely!! You might need to do it a few times and wire wheel it a bit to get it perfect though. Whatever rust and corrosion that doesn't come off on the first try will still be loosened up and will be way easier to knock off with a bead blaster or wire wheel. Electrolysis is great because it takes the rust out of the places you cant scrape on or brush the surface. Gets the nooks n' crannies!!
I love it. I am going to do this for sure. Thank you so much. I will probably have to replace the piston seals though. Or buy new calipers. I would have to be real careful on rotors though..
Simple enough process. Seems like it would be good for many things from fishing hooks to gardening tools, kitchen to bathroom to garage! Think of how much has been wasted by not knowing this...
Great video. What I can't understand is why your battery charger doesn't cook. I have tried this and the external fuse on the charger blows the moment I switch it on. Its a 12 volt charger, same as yours but with a non variable amperage setting. Any ideas on how I can make it work?
You probably had a short circuit somewhere. You don't want the anode or cathode to come into direct contact with each other. Either by themselves or through extension by what whatever they're connected to. And make sure your container is non-conductive too.
cool. My battery charger seemed to cycle off for a while every 15 minutes or so. I reckoned it was some thermal safety shutoff nonsense. I set up a small desk fan pointing at the charger and it doesn't seem to be doing it anymore. Pro tip for cool kids - you need a crappy old school battery charger with nothing but an on off switch and an amp meter on the front. The fewer "smart" or safety features the better for this kind of thing to work properly. You should us a GFCI protected outlet though...for realz.
I've heard you have to keep stainless steel (Vise Grip) out of the solution because it releases some chromium chemical solution that's really bad for your health and illegal to dispose of in the drain or nature. IMO You should use regular steel wire to suspend your parts.
Peter Alfonso No, Peter, electrolysis wont harm any of the rubber components. It will not effect anything that doesn't conduct electricity. You should be fine de-rusting calipers. A couple people have asked about calipers, so maybe I should do a video on this process on a pair as a test run?
The anode will erode during this process. If you do a lot of this you'll notice the rebar gets thinner over time. If you reverse the polarity your part will erode. The surface will become grainy as metal is lost. Electrolysis has been heavily studied by the archeology departments of various universities (Texas A&M for instance) where it is used to conserve iron artifacts. They have recommendations for how much current to use based on the surface area of the part. The 1st choice for chemical to dissolve in the water is lye (NaOH) - its supposed to give the best results in a 2% solution by weight. Sodium hydroxide is a bit nasty though and so a close second would be the sodium carbonate (washing soda) in a 5% solution by weight. Its usually available in the laundry aisle of the grocery store but if you can't find it, you can make your own from baking soda. Put the baking soda in a glass baking dish and bake it at 250F for an hour or so. The sodium bicarbonate decomposes to sodium carbonate with the release of some carbon dioxide gas. You can easily tell if you've achieved the conversion because baking soda has a salty taste and washing soda tastes bitter (spit don't swallow!). After electrolysis your part will have a black coating which is another type of iron oxide called magnetite. Its essentially the same stuff as mill scale. You can take it off mechanically as with the wire wheel. Another way is with HCl (hydrochloric or muriatic acid) which should be diluted with water 3:1. Follow up with thorough rinsing and drying before you prime and paint. Avoid heating the part to dry it faster or it may flash rust. Magnetite will not hold a paint finish so it must be removed.
After treating iron with muriatic/hydrochloric acid and a water rinse always followup with an ammonia wash and water rinse. This will dramatically reduce flash rusting (sometimes for weeks). Try and use a 10% janitorial ammonia (household ammonia is only 3%) Ace Hardware stocks 10% ammonia. Afterward, it's safe to dry with non-petroleum heat (no torches) or water dis-placers (WD-40) unless you're painting.
You'll also find sodium carbonate among the pool supplies. Probably labelled soda ash.
Dont know if you guys gives a damn but if you're bored like me atm then you can stream all of the new movies and series on InstaFlixxer. I've been streaming with my gf lately =)
@Ryland Trenton Yup, I have been using instaflixxer for months myself =)
@Ryland Trenton Yup, I have been using InstaFlixxer for months myself =)
I tried this for the first time on a couple of pairs of pliers that we're in the bottom of my toolbox. Totally seized with a heavy layer of rust. After about ten hours I cleaned them off with a wire brush and both worked excellent. After I cleaned off all the rust I sprayed them down with some good quality penetrating oil and put the in a Ziploc baggie for a couple of days. Now I have two more pliers back in service.
Why did you store them in a ziploc bag after oiling them? What does that do?
@@Syberz To give the oil time to penetrate the metal. Not sure if that works or not but doesn't hurt.
Thanks for this video! I was looking for a material to show to my class about the use of electrolysis. It just isn't enough to discuss it to them , they need to know its meaningful use too!
I just wanted to add a little helpful info , Some battery chargers are automatic , If they do not see a 12 volt current they will not turn on and perform like you want them too , I have found using a car battery to be useful by using wires to hook up the part you are trying to de-rust and then attaching the other ends to the battery then hook up your battery charger to the battery to keep the battery charged and complete the electrolysis cycle ...
How long can a car battery last during this presses ?
@@HaythamBuKhadra You use the battery as a buffer with the charger connected
its a door latch for an early model t ( around 1918). I have several.
Electrolysis will release hydrogen at the cathode and oxygen at the anode. So don't do this in an enclosed space. Just a heads up for everyone else wanting to do this.
Brandon c IMPORTANT safety tip. Thank you! This is much like charging a car battery. You never want to do it in a confined space especially around pilot lights. Thanks Brandon!
Brandon c now if the hydrogen and oxygen can be captured independently and stored...hmmm
Because hydrogen is flammable and when mixed with oxygen it's more of a bomb then fiery explosion. It's not really that big of an issue if you're doing this the same way it's done in the video since the amount of gas released is quite small.
Is a great way to use H2 on a 4.0 L.
Only really an issue for prolonged periods of time or on a large scale. It takes a lot of both gases to be of concern, otherwise it will just be diluted by the air. If you're worried, have a fan circulating air in a room and you'll be fine. Doing this once in a while over night, not likely to create enough gases to risk blowing yourself up.
If it's a small part like in the video though, you're better off using distilled white vinegar anyways. All you need is a plastic container and the white vinegar. Drop the part in and come back like 8 hours later with a wire brush.
I learned more watching this video than I have learned in quite awhile. A+++
furyiiiplate that's sad
furyiiiplate Thanks!
The one and only way that I know is better than what you showed in this vid is to increase the size of the anode. A flat piece of steel as large as can be fit into the container works best. Increased surface area increases the speed at which the process happens.
Otherwise, yet another great vid. Thanks Tyler.
Hailing from Barbados, and thanking the Bleepin Jeep team. i have and 89 xj and i have learnt a lot from you guys... But the electrolysis video.....LOVE IT LOVE IT. keep up the good work guys
Wow that came out minty mint! Nice job there Tyler, this was awesome. Another trick of the trade to try and store in the memory bank. Cool stuff, and very well explained. Thanks guys.
Pidge.
Great job, I love watching electrolysis videos. Also electrolysis videos to help dye aluminum different colors and turn titanium pretty colors. One thing to add, don't mix metals in electrolysis like aluminum or copper it can ruin one metal while doing the job on another. Stick to iron in one bath of solution.
The bubbles forming are the gases of the molecules breaking free from the chemical bonds. A good example is 2 electrodes in distilled water, a negative and a positive rod. The negative rod will have hydrogen(H+) gas bubbles since neg-pos and the Positive rod will have oxygen(O-) gas bubbles Negative->positive rod.
Best part was the horns on the head at 9:20. LOL I am definitely going to use this for something. Thanks.
A easy way to remember the polarity is the + side will add material and the - side will lose material . + get / - give
Does this depend on if you use a basic or an acidic water though?
@@kwinzman No.
I think it was this video that first led me to BleepinJeep, a few years ago now. Can't even remember what I was looking for rust removal for, but glad I found you guys. Thanks!
I always always forget my tools outside
this works perfectly for my ME and for a bunch of my friends
thank you
I like the tip on placing a piece of PVC, with holes drilled in it, around the rebar to keep it from touching the part. Clever.
Oh my this is an old video. You've come very far!
You can use the same process to electroplate items. You can also create a mask for your part out of tape and electro-etch patterns and cut outs.
Pretty cool stuff, though we always used pool pellets to do it.
Having done this many times over the years, I can tell you that the amount of washing soda (sodium carbonate [not bi-carbonate]) **does** make a difference, as this is what creates the conductivity between the anode and cathode. With higher amps (up to several hundred) and higher voltage (12-24v) and a1/2c to 1 cup of washing side dissolved in the water, you will see a LOT of bubbles and fizzing activity, and it's unlikely you will need to use a wire wheel at all.
I have heard that after you have electrolysed the rust off, you can zinc plate the part to protect from future rust by replacing the iron anode with a zinc anode and electrolysing again.
The best, most informative video I've seen on this subject. Thank you greatly
Great instructional video. And the injection of your humor ('doesn't work on cats') only makes it more entertaining. Well done!
Suscribed for life!! people like you that actually take the time to prove things like this actually works. dumb question, does it matter if you use tap or distilled water?
tap water will work just fine mate 😀
Fantastically informative, before and after condition of parts, I really enjoyed it and learned a few things...great
I don't know about anyone else but I was pretty amazed. This is awesome.
*starts digging a hole to put my trailer in and do this.*
Hahaha!
Saves money for pool*
Actually...I did my whole trailer frame this way. Piled up a 12" dirt berm around it, lined the berm w/single sheet of plastic, placed large scrap sheet metal on the bottom (my sacrificial anode). Some small plastic blocks on top of that, upon which my rusted, ol trailer frame sat. I took off the axles, but could've just as easily flipped it over with wheels sticking up out of the water. Hooked up the appropriate wires, filled w/water & pre-mixed bucket of electrolyte...and plug in!
Easy Peasy! (Pro-Tip---Works better if you hook up a battery to the solution and just let the charger keep the battery charged)
Works really well . Great way to restore a little life to some old parts
Great video! Am making sculpture for neighbor as going away present. Currently electrolysis-ing a strange piece of antique piping from our yard!
I did get a old battery charger couple of weeks ago can't wait to try this thanks for sharing
Really like these secret of the trade videos lately keep em coming!! Cause I don't own a jeep, but these videos are great too learn something from
If you put more curent and more voltage the proces will be faster?
I have a 50 v ,65 to 120 Amps trasformer and sure its has a 200A ,4 diodes bridge rectifier.
+Viricial thank you
+Viricial Its an old Rod Stick welding machine witch i modified or you can say i put a rectifing bridge on it.The machine has its original leads and crocodile style clamps.Big clamps i my add.The wire is 20 mm in diameter (not 20 Square mm) .I dont know in awg sorry.They are thick like a pointing finger.
Great video! I think I'm going to give it a try on some of my control arms that have surface rust.
Could you use wire hangers to hold both steel anode and object, instead of wood and clamps etc.? Wire could loop around objects then have hooks with "terminals" since wire is easy to shape.
great tutorial,the only thing i would like to add is it does work with baking soda. (i couldnt get washing soda in ireland) just used some baking soda and it worked great, might take a bit longer but it still works
Alan Conway Yes, you really just need some sort of electrolyte to make the water more conductive. I recommend the washing soda because it dissolves so easily and is really inexpensive. Like you said though, if you cant get washing soda, baking soda will work. You may have to put a bit more in the water though.
This video really gets me amped up
That herz.
@@Xareal watt?
Thanks I have heard of electrolysis but never thought it would be that easy or work that well. Better that using Rust-eze (sorry lighting)
Lightning McQueen is hatin right now!
+BleepinJeep hahahaha
Tyler, great tip. Well explained. Awesome video. Thanks.
Hello, Thanks For The Great Video...... What Happens If You Use A Higher AMP. 10amp For Example??
Another H&S point. Don't use any stainless steel in the system as I have been told that it decomposes into some very nasty/toxic chemicals, hexavalent chromium.
Love the video and the humour, and no I don't want to derust me parts.
Got myself an old 200 amp linear power supply and a kiddy pool ( Turtle shape of course) it srsly took bout 10min to shine up my 8.8 solid rear axel like new
Yes, Negative to positive. Most of the world has it wrong. Even after it was proven, the majority of the world wont accept it. So your on the right track. DC. leaves out at Negative, and return to positive. The hot side of a battery is the negative post. It leaves the negative post, goes through ur car back to the positive post of the battery. Notice that you put the charging cable from alternator on to the positive post. Adding power back to the battery. So as the electrons move from the negative charge, they carry the rust toward the positive charge in their wake. Hope this gives a better understanding of how it works.
Good tip about the drilled holey PVC tube
Hey Tyler! If you use scrap stainless steel for the anode it won't dissolve near as quickly, your water won't get all gunky, and your electrolyte will last about forever.
Yes, but using SS also releases Hexavalent Chromium which is incredibly toxic and all but impossible to dispose of. Creating or storing it without a license is actually a criminal offense in most states.
Electrons flow from positive to negative. For best results make the re-bar the cathode and the part the anode. This way the rust will move more quickly from the part to the re-bar.
+delvis11 LOL, SMH
lol,mna and afg to you
The negative pulls the hydrogen (because it's positively charged) and the Positive pulls the oxygen (neg. charge). Oxidation is what causes rust to form. Oxygen is required for just about any degrading chemical reaction, that's why it's called oxidation. The positive lead in any electrolysis setup is always corroded and crud covered while the negatives are spotless. I have always noticed that but never thought to use it to clean metal parts (I use electrolysis in making hydrogen fuel cells and am in an in between phase trying to turn it into a business for myself). That is a clever idea. Where did you get it from and why do you use the washing version of baking soda vs. regular baking soda?
Can u use this method to remove rust from other non steel items such as iron weight lifting plates...thnx so much!
Steel and iron are the same thing. So yes of course.
Nice video, thanks. Question, does the entire part have to be submerged? The reason I ask is that I have a bike frame that has rust in one corner and if I could just dip that corner into the liquid, that would make finding a container easier.
Ya but it’ll only do that submerged part.
Will this work on carbarator housing. My friend has a old one off of a old bobcat from the 70s. I know a ultrasonic cleaner would be best but he doesn't have one.
Use baking soda in the water, you'll get better connectivity. Don't purchase the Soda Wash, it's like $11 more than generic baking soda which is around $3.50 for a big box. It's all just Sodium bicarbonate. A half cup in a five gallon bucket is plenty. You'll see it fizz, it's pretty cool. You can do it in different time settings if you want the patina to stay. Leave it in long enough and it will vanish.
Thanks for this.It sure helps in removing rust effectively😁
What about something like calipers (including the rubber that's on it) or a driveshaft yoke??
The rubber parts wont be affected.
What other Products are good instead of washing soda? my dad used vinniger and Electrolysis to clean out a motorcycle gas tank it worked really well. let me know
Visegrips, clamp and 2x2 ! Way to Macgyver that suspension Sir!
I tried this a few times and started to think the charger was a type that couldn't do the job, I was wrong and almost bought another. Turns out adding MORE washing soda is all it took. The stuff is cheap put more in! After adding about 3x more I could see the bubbles forming and it was working.
Dude the birds in your yard are loud and going crazy! If I were you I wouldn’t go outside without a blindfold on😳
Thanks for the informative video. I set this up at home to de-rust a corroded BBQ grill. I bought the cheapest battery charger, but sadly it had some built-in analytical system which automatically switched the charger off because it recognized that it wasn't attached to a car battery. Oh dear, so frustrating. Be careful if you are buying a charger, why does it have to be so complicated!?
Add a small car battery. So, connect charger to battery to electrolysis tank. It wont harm the battery.
Will this process damage wood parts in the solution ?
I have an old hand crank drill which has some wood parts.
Probably going to go out and do this on some of my own brake calipers - what do you do with the rusty water when you're wrapped up?
Reuse it later, it lasts forever. Dilute it and pour it onto the lawn. The trace iron is what's used in spray-on "Weed And Feed". Don't do that if you have used a Stainless Steel anode, as there will be Cadmium in the solution.
That is absolutely insane! Thank you so much for the vid!
Hi can I use dc adapter plugged in to home electrical (will be stripped off) but with different volt and ampere? e.g 19v 5a? What's the point of using 12v 2a? pls reply thanks
Will this also work on plastic chromed part which has got some rust on it? And any side effects?
Now that is awesome. Will that work on Break Calipers?
Yea absolutely!! You might need to do it a few times and wire wheel it a bit to get it perfect though. Whatever rust and corrosion that doesn't come off on the first try will still be loosened up and will be way easier to knock off with a bead blaster or wire wheel. Electrolysis is great because it takes the rust out of the places you cant scrape on or brush the surface. Gets the nooks n' crannies!!
I love it. I am going to do this for sure. Thank you so much. I will probably have to replace the piston seals though. Or buy new calipers. I would have to be real careful on rotors though..
Electrolysis will remove paint and grease from clean metal no problem. You may need a bit more super washing soda. 1 cup per 5 gallons.
Simple enough process. Seems like it would be good for many things from fishing hooks to gardening tools, kitchen to bathroom to garage! Think of how much has been wasted by not knowing this...
That's cool, I've heard of this but never seen it. Thanks for vidya!
what about carbon rods to conduct the current would that work?
+Sean Chinery Yes
How do you safely dispose of the waste-water?
Poor it down the sink. It will clean your pipes and keep them from rusting.
There are also plenty of 12V power supplies that can supply enough current.
What do you do with the toxic-looking slurry in the bucket?
Great video. What I can't understand is why your battery charger doesn't cook. I have tried this and the external fuse on the charger blows the moment I switch it on. Its a 12 volt charger, same as yours but with a non variable amperage setting. Any ideas on how I can make it work?
You probably had a short circuit somewhere. You don't want the anode or cathode to come into direct contact with each other. Either by themselves or through extension by what whatever they're connected to.
And make sure your container is non-conductive too.
cool. My battery charger seemed to cycle off for a while every 15 minutes or so. I reckoned it was some thermal safety shutoff nonsense. I set up a small desk fan pointing at the charger and it doesn't seem to be doing it anymore. Pro tip for cool kids - you need a crappy old school battery charger with nothing but an on off switch and an amp meter on the front. The fewer "smart" or safety features the better for this kind of thing to work properly. You should us a GFCI protected outlet though...for realz.
AWESOME VID and thanks for sharing
Do you still have that latch?
Could you measure it and would you sell it?
Why washing soda and not baking soda? Baking soda also makes the water more conductive
Awesome video man.
Rodney Johnson Thanks Rodney!
Wow! Awesome,I'll do my trans am seat frames.
great video. very informative!
I've heard you have to keep stainless steel (Vise Grip) out of the solution because it releases some chromium chemical solution that's really bad for your health and illegal to dispose of in the drain or nature. IMO You should use regular steel wire to suspend your parts.
yep. Highly toxic substance you cant just dump down the drain or in the yard
Vice Grips are NOT Stainless. They are normal steel, it wont harm them to derust the tips.
Do you have to submerge the whole part all at one time or can you flip ends of larger parts?
good question for an experiment... I would assume you could do one half at a time.
bleepinjeep will this mess up the rubber components of the part? Can I do this process to my calipers without messing up the components?
Peter Alfonso No, Peter, electrolysis wont harm any of the rubber components. It will not effect anything that doesn't conduct electricity. You should be fine de-rusting calipers. A couple people have asked about calipers, so maybe I should do a video on this process on a pair as a test run?
Great video 👍🏼
Can you do the same process if the tool has a wooden handle, by attaching the clamp to the metal portion of the tool?
yes. as long as there is a current loop back to the battery charger
Awesome im so using this to just try it. Best thing I seen i a while.
Can i use salt instead of washing soda ?
Awesome! Very informative
Does it have to be 2 amp. I am in UK.
would washing liquid do the same thing
nice video man! thanks!
Can this be done on a dana 30 axle housing
Would the lower 6-volt setting be better than the 12-volt setting?
It's not the voltage that is important, it's the amperage that is important. (which is the amount of current flowing)
So if I want to gold plate something then I would do the opposite with the connections when I submerse what ever I want plated in the gold solution ?
Yep. You just need a nice solid bar of gold to act as the anode.
@@johncoops6897 Unfortunately I do not have one of those.
@@ADITADDICTS - well, that's a disappointment LOL
@@johncoops6897 story of my life lol
Awesome video!
where did you discard the waste water/ nasty stuff, properly? Thanks
will this be hard on the charger in anyway? (i would think not)
Will this work on a brand new brake rotor that has been left out in the weather and surface rusted?
yes
just use your brake a few times it'll clear itself.
Also it's a self regulating process so you can't leave it in too long
Once the rust is gone and you have fresh, unprotected steel that is wet with water, how do you prevent flash rust/future rust from occurring?
blow dry with compressed air
3:20 I recommend the neighbor's salt water swimming pool. No charge for that tip!
I wonder, would sparkling mineral water speed up the process?
Does the part have to be suspended in the water? can it sit on the bottom of the tank?
of course.. so long as it's in water mate.