Definitely! I hope they will do something like this again next year! I would also love to see a Razer Blade 14 with a high-end GPU option, I am sure their current chassis would be able to handle it ...
Mh, two very different performance tiers. But we have review for both of them on the channel already! This is an overview about the Legion Pro 7 and its contenders: th-cam.com/video/Rz3xJbWzZqg/w-d-xo.html This is a general 2024 legion overview: th-cam.com/video/Kg9sRz0KtUQ/w-d-xo.html and the Alieware M16r2: th-cam.com/video/MRG97AvgHw4/w-d-xo.html
It's too bad ASUS didn't carry the 4090 onto their 14-inch laptops this year. Pure gaming performance aside, a 120w 4090 laptop, hell, even the 100w on the MSI Stealth 16 2024) is STILL nearly quadruple times faster than a 100w 4070. I wish they'd continue doing this and add a slightly thicker "Pro" variant (possibly with a 2023 chassis) of a G14 or Zenbook Pro 14 in 2025 with the RTX 50 series. Not every laptop gamers seek 100% pure performance, sometimes they just want to pay more for portability to game anywhere without looking ohio while understanding the cost of performance already.
Those who wants a TRUE workstation level laptops: MSI CreatorPro X18, i9-14900HX, RTX 5000 ADA up to 192Gb RAM. MSI CreatorPro 16 AI. Core Ultra 195H + RTX 5000 ADA. 96Gb RAM Other lower ends creator series like MX and Z with i7HX CPU and RTX 3500 ADA. Other brands behaves with identical specs i9 14900HX+RTX 5000 ADA or i7 HX + RTX 2000/3000 ADA including: Lenovo P series workstation laptop Dell precision HP Zbook series. However the last 3 have complicated options and configuration than MSI With 2025 new CPUs and GPUs are coming, these options still new and performant but some configurations will get discount price
@@NotebookcheckReviews well, I dont know why MSI don't do such an aggressive marketing on such promising segment. I've been looking for these MSI laptops but very few retailers sell it. I mean, with such nice configuration with miniLED screen, and especially the RTX 5000 ADA , they are actually great machines , perfect fit for heavy duty professional workloads. Especially for the CreatorPro 16 AI, the only laptop on the earth that uses Core Ultra CPU +Nvidia workstation GPU.
Guys do you know how to fix the problem where armoury crate closes as soon as I open it. I have ROG Flow X16 rtx3070Ti version, but after armory crate stopped working my battery started to drain faster 😢. It has been 1 month since I bought it
I was thinking about adding it to the selection, but since its MiniLED does not offer switchable local dimming and you get no additional color presets, I felt like you are just a little too limited in more visual professions and when colors are important. But of course, if you do not care about that, it's a terrific laptop.
I dig the video but I think at least 1 MacBook Pro should make it in the line up, they're fantastic creative laptops. (not an apple fanboy, I use both windows and Mac)
The reviews indicate that M4 MacBook Pros are top performers with impressive specifications. While they may be pricier, professional creators might find the additional cost justifiable for quicker workloads. The title perhaps should have been 'The Best Windows Laptop for Creators,' as omitting the M4 seems to be an oversight. However, I recognize that sponsorship could influence such comparisons, likely preventing Nvidia laptops from being evaluated against the M4 Pro or M4 Max.
Ah well, they are not much more expensive than some of the other notebooks I discussed. There are quite a few reasons why I have not discussed them in this video. Of course, there is the obvious sponsor situation, and the focus on Nvidia's Studio validation, but even beyond that there are a few things I do not like about the macbook (pros) that make them less ideal for creator workflows. (you can not calibrate the display, the sRGB profile locks the brightness to a very dim level, and as fast as the integrated GPUs might be, they are no match for something like a laptop 4080 or 4090) In addition, I haven't used a Macbook Pro in a while, and the new M4 samples are coming. I prefer to talk about tech I have used for a considerable amount of time to talk about it confidently! :) But we will have a direct comparison soon, so stay tuned for that!
Love my rog zephyrus duo 16 with 240hz mini led screen 2.5k screen. An that second 4k screen comes in so clutch for cosing walk throughs an got it for 2300. Def great for everything except battery life lol😂.
Which Laptop is Best for Architects in Early 2025? For an architect on the go using Autodesk programs and rendering engines like Unreal Engine or D5 Render but also programs for graphic design, which laptop offers better value: Legion Pro 7i Gen 9 Intel Core i9-14900HX NVIDIA RTX 4080 ASUS ProArt P16 AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370 NVIDIA RTX 4070 Identical RAM and storage configuration
The ProArt is much more portable since its sleeker, but I would say the Legion offers the better value and much better performance. You can also upgrade RAM and storage and get a few more ports. The ProArt has the edge regarding battery life, though, if that is important for you and you get an OLED. That is just 60Hz tho ..
Architects, eh?! I'd recommend something with AMD CPU Cause as an Intel user myself, battery life is a not a thing in my laptop (even with my low power intel CPU)
It depends on where he plans to work and how intense his workloads are. I bet many architects work on desks with outlets and need quite a bit of GPU grunt for rendering or computing purposes.
@@NotebookcheckReviews Can completly confirm this. As an architect I mainly work on a desktop workstation when in the office, at home and while traveling I use an Asus studiobook 16 (13980hx, 4070, 64GB ...) and keep it pluged in whenever I have an outlet. To be honest I never have a situation that I can not plug in while working (as working on for example the train is quite hard without periphirals and extra screens ^^' ) ... also every little bit of extra power is always welcome working on large scale and complex buildings.
That is what I figured! I would actually love to do a case-study similar to what we did with a CGI artist a while ago, just with an architect! I think that would be a very interesting video!
@@Mido_Response time are usually only seen by gamers who see super fast refresh rates. Average person won’t see them and they did increase the response time with the M4 MacBooks but still no where near OLED. They need to put their tandem OLED in the screens and add more GPU cores for the max series.
@@NotebookcheckReviews So the title of this video is a little misleading. It should say "The best Windows Creator-Laptops you can buy right now." It seems very likely that your testing will find that one or more of the MacBook Pros (which are available right now) should be added to the list as a premium price entry. 🙂
@@NotebookcheckReviews Just the simple fact of what a mess Lightroom and Adobe Bridge are with regards to the Ui fonts sizing and how the side panel sizing are a mess …plus how you need a degree in wizardry to get colour correction to work in Windows OS is enough to realise….before we go into the real reasons.
Windows notebooks have never been better. In what application do you get a big advantage when opting for Apple instead of a similarly specced windows machine?
16GB M2 Air is good enough for like 95% of people and it's $749. Macs have better resale value and can even be traded back in to stores like Best Buy for very reasonable offers. Nothing can touch that on the Windows side. Apple making 16GB base models is the nail in the coffin for now while Windows laptop manufacturers run around like clowns with the X86/ARM CPU dilemma. Yes, I have a modest 14900K/4080 Super rig. I like Windows more for sure but the laptops are whack. If you need something dirt cheap, buy a Chromebook. Need midrange? MacBook Air. Enthusiast? M4 Pro MBP. Done deal. What do Windows laptops do better? Gaming and that's it.
How can you compare a macbook air (a capable machine for what it is) with the laptops I have showcased here? Even the Samsung Book4 Ultra with its 4050 runs circles around an M3 Macbook Air 15 in Blender just as a single example. The situation might be different when it comes to "everyday" kind of use cases, but that was not what this video was about! ;)
Spoken like a true apple Fanboy. No MacBook in history can keep up with any of these an you pay 4k for literally the worst specs. You just got 16 gigs for m4 in 2024 an still can't play real games on a MacBook 😂😂😂
@@kennymccormick829516 gig is not good enough for 95 percent of people that includes people doing coding, machines learning, music, working with editing vids an pics, 16 is not enough. You like many other apple fanboys will say everything apple does is right because you have no idea about anything tech related an your parents have way to much money for you 😂😂
Nah, heavent done any measurements, but Dragon Range is simply not made for long battery life. The CPUs are amazing, but the notebooks are desktop replacements.
@@NotebookcheckReviews i want to get a nice laptop for my university but i really like the zephyrus duo with the 4090 i keep telling myself i can make it work somehow but i might go with the g16 because i need the battery life :‘)
Seriously the G14 2023 with 125W 4080 and 4090 options were one of a kind. Nothing like it anymore.
Definitely! I hope they will do something like this again next year!
I would also love to see a Razer Blade 14 with a high-end GPU option, I am sure their current chassis would be able to handle it ...
This guy always looks chill, i like his videos
Thanks for watching! :)
Hey man, just wondering if you could compare the legion pro 7i to the Alienware M16R2?
Mh, two very different performance tiers.
But we have review for both of them on the channel already!
This is an overview about the Legion Pro 7 and its contenders:
th-cam.com/video/Rz3xJbWzZqg/w-d-xo.html
This is a general 2024 legion overview:
th-cam.com/video/Kg9sRz0KtUQ/w-d-xo.html
and the Alieware M16r2:
th-cam.com/video/MRG97AvgHw4/w-d-xo.html
@ oh sick, thanks
why is this awesome man so underrated
That is a very, very valid question!
It's too bad ASUS didn't carry the 4090 onto their 14-inch laptops this year.
Pure gaming performance aside, a 120w 4090 laptop, hell, even the 100w on the MSI Stealth 16 2024) is STILL nearly quadruple times faster than a 100w 4070.
I wish they'd continue doing this and add a slightly thicker "Pro" variant (possibly with a 2023 chassis) of a G14 or Zenbook Pro 14 in 2025 with the RTX 50 series.
Not every laptop gamers seek 100% pure performance, sometimes they just want to pay more for portability to game anywhere without looking ohio while understanding the cost of performance already.
100% agreed, let's hope for 2025
Those who wants a TRUE workstation level laptops:
MSI CreatorPro X18, i9-14900HX, RTX 5000 ADA up to 192Gb RAM.
MSI CreatorPro 16 AI. Core Ultra 195H + RTX 5000 ADA. 96Gb RAM
Other lower ends creator series like MX and Z with i7HX CPU and RTX 3500 ADA.
Other brands behaves with identical specs i9 14900HX+RTX 5000 ADA or i7 HX + RTX 2000/3000 ADA including:
Lenovo P series workstation laptop
Dell precision
HP Zbook series.
However the last 3 have complicated options and configuration than MSI
With 2025 new CPUs and GPUs are coming, these options still new and performant but some configurations will get discount price
I would love to try those workstation focused MSIs, but apparently they don't sample them :(
@@NotebookcheckReviews well, I dont know why MSI don't do such an aggressive marketing on such promising segment.
I've been looking for these MSI laptops but very few retailers sell it.
I mean, with such nice configuration with miniLED screen, and especially the RTX 5000 ADA , they are actually great machines , perfect fit for heavy duty professional workloads.
Especially for the CreatorPro 16 AI, the only laptop on the earth that uses Core Ultra CPU +Nvidia workstation GPU.
Guys do you know how to fix the problem where armoury crate closes as soon as I open it. I have ROG Flow X16 rtx3070Ti version, but after armory crate stopped working my battery started to drain faster 😢. It has been 1 month since I bought it
What about thinkpad p16 gen 2? Or Gen 3 in 2025?
We did review it on the website: www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-P16-Gen-2-workstation-review-Heavy-with-supercharged-graphics.903804.0.html
Good list. I think the Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i is often slept on too
I was thinking about adding it to the selection, but since its MiniLED does not offer switchable local dimming and you get no additional color presets, I felt like you are just a little too limited in more visual professions and when colors are important.
But of course, if you do not care about that, it's a terrific laptop.
How about aero 16 especially for someone who is in Germany it cost 1500 euro for 4070
Not a bad deal, I really enjoyed the Aero during our initial review!
Hello my dear best channel ! Why no words about the Thinkpad P1 Gen 7 ?
Just got my sample today! :)
i have galaxy book 4 pro! Maybe not a powerhouse but oh boy it is fast!! even withouth being charged
I like it as well, I just wish the RTX4050 SKU would come with 32 GB RAM!
I dig the video but I think at least 1 MacBook Pro should make it in the line up, they're fantastic creative laptops. (not an apple fanboy, I use both windows and Mac)
I got a sample of the MacBook Pro 16 with the M4 Max in the mail, let's see how well it holds up!
@@NotebookcheckReviews awesome! looking forward to the video :)
The reviews indicate that M4 MacBook Pros are top performers with impressive specifications. While they may be pricier, professional creators might find the additional cost justifiable for quicker workloads. The title perhaps should have been 'The Best Windows Laptop for Creators,' as omitting the M4 seems to be an oversight. However, I recognize that sponsorship could influence such comparisons, likely preventing Nvidia laptops from being evaluated against the M4 Pro or M4 Max.
Ah well, they are not much more expensive than some of the other notebooks I discussed.
There are quite a few reasons why I have not discussed them in this video. Of course, there is the obvious sponsor situation, and the focus on Nvidia's Studio validation, but even beyond that there are a few things I do not like about the macbook (pros) that make them less ideal for creator workflows. (you can not calibrate the display, the sRGB profile locks the brightness to a very dim level, and as fast as the integrated GPUs might be, they are no match for something like a laptop 4080 or 4090)
In addition, I haven't used a Macbook Pro in a while, and the new M4 samples are coming. I prefer to talk about tech I have used for a considerable amount of time to talk about it confidently! :)
But we will have a direct comparison soon, so stay tuned for that!
Ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe for chocolate chip cookies.
Love my rog zephyrus duo 16 with 240hz mini led screen 2.5k screen. An that second 4k screen comes in so clutch for cosing walk throughs an got it for 2300. Def great for everything except battery life lol😂.
Yeah battery life is a bit of a bummer, but it's such a unique laptop, and a ton of fun to use!
Which Laptop is Best for Architects in Early 2025?
For an architect on the go using Autodesk programs and rendering engines like Unreal Engine or D5 Render but also programs for graphic design, which laptop offers better value:
Legion Pro 7i Gen 9
Intel Core i9-14900HX
NVIDIA RTX 4080
ASUS ProArt P16
AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370
NVIDIA RTX 4070
Identical RAM and storage configuration
The ProArt is much more portable since its sleeker, but I would say the Legion offers the better value and much better performance. You can also upgrade RAM and storage and get a few more ports.
The ProArt has the edge regarding battery life, though, if that is important for you and you get an OLED. That is just 60Hz tho ..
Architects, eh?!
I'd recommend something with AMD CPU
Cause as an Intel user myself, battery life is a not a thing in my laptop (even with my low power intel CPU)
It depends on where he plans to work and how intense his workloads are. I bet many architects work on desks with outlets and need quite a bit of GPU grunt for rendering or computing purposes.
@@NotebookcheckReviews Can completly confirm this. As an architect I mainly work on a desktop workstation when in the office, at home and while traveling I use an Asus studiobook 16 (13980hx, 4070, 64GB ...) and keep it pluged in whenever I have an outlet. To be honest I never have a situation that I can not plug in while working (as working on for example the train is quite hard without periphirals and extra screens ^^' ) ... also every little bit of extra power is always welcome working on large scale and complex buildings.
That is what I figured! I would actually love to do a case-study similar to what we did with a CGI artist a while ago, just with an architect! I think that would be a very interesting video!
wow, so, new macbooks aren't interesting at all? how come?
Yeah I don't like Macbooks because of MacOS but they are really good laptops for creators and should have been included
Still waiting for our samples of the M4 macbooks! I will do some sort of comparison with one of the better specced Macbook Pro 16s.
Terrible response time, as always. Macbooks are dead until they switch to OLED.
@@Mido_Response time are usually only seen by gamers who see super fast refresh rates. Average person won’t see them and they did increase the response time with the M4 MacBooks but still no where near OLED.
They need to put their tandem OLED in the screens and add more GPU cores for the max series.
@@NotebookcheckReviews So the title of this video is a little misleading. It should say "The best Windows Creator-Laptops you can buy right now." It seems very likely that your testing will find that one or more of the MacBook Pros (which are available right now) should be added to the list as a premium price entry. 🙂
Any serious creative will use a Mac.
What is this (hopefully) well-researched claim based upon?
@@NotebookcheckReviews Just the simple fact of what a mess Lightroom and Adobe Bridge are with regards to the Ui fonts sizing and how the side panel sizing are a mess …plus how you need a degree in wizardry to get colour correction to work in Windows OS is enough to realise….before we go into the real reasons.
the samsungs aren't bad but apple pretty much destroys all of these. idk why windows laptops are so bad now
Windows notebooks have never been better. In what application do you get a big advantage when opting for Apple instead of a similarly specced windows machine?
16GB M2 Air is good enough for like 95% of people and it's $749. Macs have better resale value and can even be traded back in to stores like Best Buy for very reasonable offers. Nothing can touch that on the Windows side.
Apple making 16GB base models is the nail in the coffin for now while Windows laptop manufacturers run around like clowns with the X86/ARM CPU dilemma.
Yes, I have a modest 14900K/4080 Super rig. I like Windows more for sure but the laptops are whack.
If you need something dirt cheap, buy a Chromebook. Need midrange? MacBook Air. Enthusiast? M4 Pro MBP. Done deal. What do Windows laptops do better? Gaming and that's it.
How can you compare a macbook air (a capable machine for what it is) with the laptops I have showcased here? Even the Samsung Book4 Ultra with its 4050 runs circles around an M3 Macbook Air 15 in Blender just as a single example.
The situation might be different when it comes to "everyday" kind of use cases, but that was not what this video was about! ;)
Spoken like a true apple Fanboy. No MacBook in history can keep up with any of these an you pay 4k for literally the worst specs. You just got 16 gigs for m4 in 2024 an still can't play real games on a MacBook 😂😂😂
@@kennymccormick829516 gig is not good enough for 95 percent of people that includes people doing coding, machines learning, music, working with editing vids an pics, 16 is not enough. You like many other apple fanboys will say everything apple does is right because you have no idea about anything tech related an your parents have way to much money for you 😂😂
More on the zephyrus duo please🫶🏻
I hope there launch a successor to it in the next years
You can find our full review here:
th-cam.com/video/52UWHc3wETU/w-d-xo.html
And yes, I hope it will get upgrade next year as well!
Actually I was wondering if the battery performance got better since ur last review
Nah, heavent done any measurements, but Dragon Range is simply not made for long battery life. The CPUs are amazing, but the notebooks are desktop replacements.
@@NotebookcheckReviews i want to get a nice laptop for my university but i really like the zephyrus duo with the 4090 i keep telling myself i can make it work somehow but i might go with the g16 because i need the battery life
:‘)