As he should be.! Cant wait to see the pick of him walking into the paddock for the first race of 2026 with two middle fingers raised and a big smile on his face!
I would laugh so hard if Michael Andretti stepping down and this revised proposal was a play to get the team approved, and once they get greenlit they would simply sign him back on as team principal and change the name of the team to Andretti GP or whatever.
I think the other teams all have to agree to a name change for any team... ? if so that would not work. as for michael being a true Team Principal, maybe...? I see him more as a zak brown role with an "Andrea Stella" in Pat Symonds as a Team Principal... Michael , for all he has accomplished, has literally 0 experience as an F1 team principle... why would any New F1 team looking to make a respectable impact on the sport sooner than later take that risk.?
@@robertreinecker9007 You guys don’t realise that Stroll makes Alonso look incredibly good. Alonso is washed, never been a fan of his after he left Renault.
Not running a Renault engine they aren't, and maybe they already knew/strongly suspected that Renault was going to pull out of F1, there were many strong rumours to that effect.
@@TXnine7nine Sauber and any uncompetitive teams on the F1 grid gets the grandfather rule. It basically means that their spot is safe as long as they want it since they invested in F1 years ago.
most likely was beacause andretti made a big fuss with the arab part of liberty, and is not well liked in the grid, this was definitly personal, but to be fair the biggest logistic reason was renault trashing their engine department, and mercedes and ferrari denying andretti (clearly because of past feud) so they would not have a engine deal, by that time honda wasnt on the grid back yet and redbull is not obligated to have costumer deals so they might have ended in a situation with no engine suplier or with a super bad deal with ferrari.
Andretti’s biggest adversary was Greg Maffei, who said as long as he was CEO of liberty, Andretti wood would never get a spot. So it’s no coincidence that since he recently “stepped down”, this has been reignited.
F1 clearly doesn't want Andretti. He steps down, they're suddenly okay with their entry, while the embarrassing Audi soap opera continues on? Yeah - I'll believe it when I see that car on the grid.
Yea, and after Michael backed out and Liberty Media’s CEO Greg Maffei stepping down end 2025, suddenly F1 is playing nice with Cadillac/Team Andretti. GM is more serious about entering F1 than Audi or Renault.
Problem is... GM, Cadillac, does not have anything CLOSE to the technology or expertise to race F1. So everything has to be bought in from other companies. Which means it will be just a GM badge on somebody elses technology and engineering. And using the Andretti team to consolidate this. And F1 does not want to be just a billion dollar corporate marketing deal. Thats not what F1 is for. Mercedes, Toyota, BMW, Honda, all of them run their own tech. Cadillac would not. And as if this needed more proof, Cadillac also runs a new LeMans team, but not a single screw or bolt is made by Cadillac themselves. Because no American racing team, or car manufacturer has that kind of expertise.
@@captain_context9991F1 is corporate marketing. That’s literally why HAAS is even on the grid he thought they could just buy everything from Ferrari and just show up every weekend and promote his brand. Every team has to develop things in house so your argument of them rebadging things doesn’t make sense.
Problem is... GM, Cadillac, does not have anything CLOSE to the technology or expertise to race F1. So everything has to be bought in from other companies. Using Andrettis racing heritage to consolidate this. Which means it will be just a GM badge on somebody elses technology and engineering. And F1 does not want to be just a billion dollar corporate marketing deal. Thats not what F1 is for. Mercedes, Toyota, BMW, Honda, Ferrari, Mclaren, all of them run their own tech. Cadillac would not. And as if this needed more proof, Cadillac also runs a new LeMans team, but not a single nut or bolt is made by Cadillac themselves. Because no American racing team has that kind of expertise.
So it was Liberty Media, basically having a personal vendetta against Andretti? That's what it sounds like to me. It doesn't sound like there had any other problems with the entry besides potentially GM going full works
F1 can't be serious to say that they're denying a new team entry because they "wouldn't be competitive" when they have Sauber on the grid with 0 points with 3 races left in the season. 🤣
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Don’t forget, they are turning into Audi which will hopefully give them the backing to do well.
I imagine redbull are likely to drop tsunoda after 2025 and Aston will be locked up with stroll, so I could see tsunoda taking one of the Andretti seats for 26 and 27 if Honda ends up supplying them
What stops GM from selling their shares back to Andretti and the team from renaming itself to "Michael Andretti's Personal Hobby Project" after they're approved and become part of Concorde Agreement? Silly requirement.
Honestly I hope that happens. Fuck F1 for trying to stifle competition. Teams are worried about lesser payouts with more competition? Make faster cars.
The commercial angle, imo, should be flatout ignored when determining whether or not to admit a team. F1 is a _sport_ not a f*cking product to be sold.
To be honest, that failed spectacularly. 2010 was a good season, but the new teams were not even close to be competitive. I understand F1 not wanting another HRT or Virgin.
Forgot one important point: a new Concorde Agreement will be put in place between now and their entry, with the entry fee tripled or more to at least 600 million USD. That, along with liberty CEO leaving, is the key.
So we're entering another era of manufacturers, merc, ferrari, mclaren, red bull and RB (with help from ford), haas (with help from Toyota), audi, GM, aston martin (with honda) and alpine possibly...
F1 has needed a new team on the grid for some years now but I think it’s taken so long because the teams hold too much voice on the sport and use f1 reps as a puppet to voice what they really want
The reasoning of the FIA are ridiculous. Why it's taking so long to approve the Andretti entry into Formula 1. Those mentioned reason for blocking the approval by the FIA are absurd. There's no reason not to accept them they have the expertise and the budget S o what the hell Its taking so long.
That was their initial plan, but as you said, top management is lacking both in vision and smarts. These idiots don't even know how to manage their Alpine brand on the commercial side of things (EB110 looks great, but A290 doesn't belong in), and it's a testament to how good they are that their F1 project is now faring worse with a CEO allegedly in favour of it, in contrast to Carlos Ghosn' era one, who definitely wasn't.
@@5340robert What irks me (as a McLaren fan) who has a soft spot for Renault, is it doesn't market very well when you a car and engine manufacturer in and out of M/Sport can't build a good engine and have to get one from somewhere else.
@@TBCFormula Oh, because nothing could possibly have changed since 2010? This isnt something I just made up. Audi / Porsche wants in. So they bought an already existing team. Because there is no room for new teams.
Maffei tells Mario Andretti recently that he "will do everything in his power" to stop Michael from entering F1. 1. Maffei has been fired and has no power now (and no one volunteers to moves on from a powerful and lucrative position without a better gig, which Maffei does not have.) 2. Why would Maffei have said such a thing? What made Maffei so furious at America's famous racing family? Andretti's confrontational/abrasive approach? No, I think that just gets an emphatic "NO". Recall that the United States senate moved to launch a DOJ investigation into F1 anti-competitive tactics. This investigation could have resulted in the government looking at Liberty Media much more closely, including financials and tax issues. Now, if Liberty very much want to avoid such scrutiny Maffei's harsh rejection and words to Mario can be seen as a serious blunder.
I genuinely think I’m going to stop watching formula 1. Im beyond sick of the inauthentic nature of everything. It’s 99% reality tv and 1% sport. Not to mention that they treat their fans horribly. The business side of the sport has evolved into this grotesque version of itself. This isn’t Motorsport. It’s lost ALL of what makes racing amazing.
Reminds me of that scene from Major League when the team finds out the owner is betting for them to come in dead last so she can move the team to Miami. Taylor says “well I guess there’s only one thing left to do then…win the whole f@cking thing.” LFG.
I looked at the teams that were in favour of Michael Andretti's bold initiative to enter F1 and who were against. Only McLaren and Alpine were for Andretti being in F1 and I find myself asking whether the others have no vision and additionally lack the courage to see F1 itself grow. For them it's better the ( devil ) ten you know than the eleven with an element of the unknown. I'm glad things are about to change but I lament that the name of Andretti may not be as prominent. A sad reflection of the absence as I said of courage to take F1 to another higher level and the presence of not a little envy too perhaps. Given that Michael Andretti has driven the project this far it would have been fitting that his name does not fade away as the project becomes a reality and grows with the passage of time.
The other teams who were resisting may have shot themselves in the foot. They are still bound by the rules limiting CD and wind tunnel testing. Since Andretti is not an "official" entry, they can do all the cd and wind tunnel testing they want. Andretti may not be as far behind as others are suggesting when they hit the grid.
Way to finesse his way into F1!!! Gotta love Michael Andretti's determination! An American driver is a MUST. TBH, this is a perfect opportunity to bring Danny Ric back onto the grid given his experience and popularity with the American fans. Then partner him with Herta. Great base.
The real reasons >F1 lost a manufacturer(Renault) which is embarrassing considering the excuses they put out Pre-season. >The CEO who had the vendetta to block the new team is stepping down
@@captain_context9991 so ur telling me that f1 managment were fine a few years ago with the entry but then they deny it, after that andretti steps down and immediatly they accept them as a new team and that isnt personal? also I think theres worse teams than what andretti would be but ok
@@shadowduds @shadowduds All the other fluff is just public perception. Im trying to explain it in general terms. The fact is... GM / Cadillac does not have the technology or engineering skills to race F1. So they are trying to blag their way into F1 by using Andrettis international street cred and GMs money. But F1 is not taking the bait because they know that it would just be Cadillacs logo on somebody elses car. And F1 does not want to be just a billion dollar corporate marketing deal. Thats not what F1 is about. So after a lot of back and forth, Andretti / Cadillac are viewed as grifters and hustlers and made themselves unpopular.
@@captain_context9991 "GM / Cadillac does not have the technology or engineering skills to race F1" they have done incredible advancements, they definetly have the technology, in the video they have already talked about wind tunnel testings, cockpit safety and they have gained so many plp from the F1 world already. Also I want to point out that Haas still doesnt have a simulator after 9 years in the sport, I would bet Haas is less technologically advanced than Andretti rn. And GM is the largest car manufacturer in america theres no way they dont have the technology.
@@shadowduds Yeah.... By setting up a proxy in England where 80% of F1 teams are. Where they can easily buy the manpower, engineering skills and technology. If you need further proof of this. Look at Cadillacs new LeMans team. Which is exactly 0% engineered by themselves. Haas is another America-LICENSED team. They have a headquarter in North Carolina, but all their tech is done in Banbury England and Maranello Italy. They got an engine from Ferrari, chassis from Italian Dallara, and bought their racing team from ex Jag and Red Bull employees.
@@Theriotwright Problem is... GM, Cadillac, does not have anything CLOSE to the technology or expertise to race F1. So everything has to be bought in from other companies. Which means it will be just a GM badge on somebody elses technology and engineering. And F1 does not want to be just a billion dollar corporate marketing deal. Thats not what F1 is for. Mercedes, Toyota, BMW, Honda, all of them run their own tech. Cadillac would not. And as if this needed more proof, Cadillac also runs a new LeMans team, but not a single screw or bolt is made by Cadillac themselves. Because no American racing team has that kind of expertise.
Well... GM wants to hustle and scam their way into F1 using Andrettis street cred and GMs money, but F1 does not want to be just a billion dollar marketing deal. It would be just a Cadillac logo on a car made by somebody else. Just like Cadillacs LeMans car which is 0% built, or run by Cadillac. Cadillac simply does not have the engineering or technology to be at F1 levels. So instead they are trying their best to sneak around the rules.
Andretti can run the team like Pratt Miller run Corvette Racing. I personally would choose Chevy rather than Cadillac as it’s already a global brand. Seeing the bow tie on the car would be so cool.
I will believe it when a car is on the grid. If then name Andretti doesn't get on the grid, but the GM bid does, that shows it was a personal attack on Micheal.
Currently GM engines in Indycar are built by Ilmor, who used to build the Honda engines before HPD got back into Indycar several years ago. So it's all very mixed up anyways. GM and Honda actually work together on many projects.
@@charlespletzke8311 Traces back to Saturn, the 3.5L V6 in the Vue was from Honda, but other projects throughout, Honda receiving Isuzu diesel engines, a subsidiary of GM at the time.
Its not about that. This is a case of Cadilac trying to hustle and sneak themselves into F1 using Andrettis street cred and GMs money. But F1 isnt playing along.
Good to see other people also can see what is going to happen here once everything is signed and greenlighted, Michael Andretti will be back doing whatever he wants no matter what.
"Cadillac" is such a weird choice of brand, being known for large luxury sedans for the most part. I'd have thought Corvette or something would be a better GM brand for racing
Need to sort by Newest because most of the top comments here are populated by replies from one git with a bone to give. I'm not going to bother about the reasons for the rejection, because it seemed like F1 is being very political, so if there's a way to give the F1Group a black eye, I'd be very happy.
I feel like at some point in the past, Michael Andretti told somebody at F1 their mother was fat, and ever since they have done everything to keep him out.
10:10 why would they make a deal with Honda, when a GM owned brand is literally competing with Honda in indycar?
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Although it does look like they hate the guy I think the real reason is that they would be worried about such a weakly setup team (everything bought in externally) would lower the overall perceived value of formula 1, especially the top teams.
Let's get down to Earth. GM is not going to develop a power unit from now until the homologation date, even if some work has been done already. Neither will Cadillac run with a Honda PU. So, if GM is going to enter the sport, it will do so in 2028 at the earliest. It is extremely optimistic to expect any kind of power unit to be ready before then.
GM was already going to badge Renault units as Cadillac, that was their original plan over a year ago. Join in 2026, run customer engines (with Cadillac badging) then their own motors by 2028. They are very likely going to be badging Honda units as Cadillac, which is better than their original plan to badge Renault units. Factor in Andretti's connection to Honda and Honda and GMs already strong working ties and it will be a no brainer for GM to badge Honda units until 2028.
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I'll believe it when I see it.
Me too.
Exactly what was in my mind.
Michael Andretti will be straight back into the helm at Andretti Racing once they get the green light ;)
Yep. Everybody knows it.
hope they dont get it
@@KingofClubsMCDLXXXVIII why?
I hope so, so that way it’s like a middle finger to F1 for rejecting the team just because of him
As he should be.! Cant wait to see the pick of him walking into the paddock for the first race of 2026 with two middle fingers raised and a big smile on his face!
I would laugh so hard if Michael Andretti stepping down and this revised proposal was a play to get the team approved, and once they get greenlit they would simply sign him back on as team principal and change the name of the team to Andretti GP or whatever.
Yep. Everybody knows it.
I think the other teams all have to agree to a name change for any team... ? if so that would not work. as for michael being a true Team Principal, maybe...? I see him more as a zak brown role with an "Andrea Stella" in Pat Symonds as a Team Principal... Michael , for all he has accomplished, has literally 0 experience as an F1 team principle... why would any New F1 team looking to make a respectable impact on the sport sooner than later take that risk.?
@@RaptorV1USAsince when? They are entirely separate business units with entirely different ownership. Not like the FIA is an HOA
@@RaptorV1USAno they don’t
His Team Principal licence application would just get rejected...
F1 desperately needs more teams. There are so many young talents being wasted because of lack of seats.
Aston Martin are wasting 2 seats alone. That’s 10% of all seats.
@f1milo177 stroll yes, the other is a rookie. Leave him alone, he knows what he is doing
@@f1milo177 are you saying Alonso doesn’t deserve a seat? He is better than half of the grid in my opinion. Stroll needs to go, I agree.
@@robertreinecker9007 You guys don’t realise that Stroll makes Alonso look incredibly good. Alonso is washed, never been a fan of his after he left Renault.
@ just because you aren’t a fan of him, means that he’s washed. Did you watch last year? He was getting podiums all over the place
What really hurt FOM's case was the claim a "customer team" could not be competitive, and guess who is top of the championship? A customer team
Not running a Renault engine they aren't, and maybe they already knew/strongly suspected that Renault was going to pull out of F1, there were many strong rumours to that effect.
So this is rock solid proof that the reasons laid out by F1 for Andretti not joining is complete BS!
Exactly. Citing "lack of competitiveness" while having Sauber sitting on 0 points with 3 races left is hilarious.
@@TXnine7ninekinda different situations
@@TXnine7nine Sauber and any uncompetitive teams on the F1 grid gets the grandfather rule. It basically means that their spot is safe as long as they want it since they invested in F1 years ago.
They’ll prove their uncompetitiveness soon enough.😂
most likely was beacause andretti made a big fuss with the arab part of liberty, and is not well liked in the grid, this was definitly personal, but to be fair the biggest logistic reason was renault trashing their engine department, and mercedes and ferrari denying andretti (clearly because of past feud) so they would not have a engine deal, by that time honda wasnt on the grid back yet and redbull is not obligated to have costumer deals so they might have ended in a situation with no engine suplier or with a super bad deal with ferrari.
Andretti’s biggest adversary was Greg Maffei, who said as long as he was CEO of liberty, Andretti wood would never get a spot. So it’s no coincidence that since he recently “stepped down”, this has been reignited.
And Michael Andretti stepped down as well. Seems like they just needed better people at the table.
F1 clearly doesn't want Andretti. He steps down, they're suddenly okay with their entry, while the embarrassing Audi soap opera continues on? Yeah - I'll believe it when I see that car on the grid.
Liberty media CEO and Michael Andretti have some personal beef between them. That is the only reason why Andretti team was denied entry.
Yea, and after Michael backed out and Liberty Media’s CEO Greg Maffei stepping down end 2025, suddenly F1 is playing nice with Cadillac/Team Andretti.
GM is more serious about entering F1 than Audi or Renault.
Problem is... GM, Cadillac, does not have anything CLOSE to the technology or expertise to race F1. So everything has to be bought in from other companies. Which means it will be just a GM badge on somebody elses technology and engineering. And using the Andretti team to consolidate this.
And F1 does not want to be just a billion dollar corporate marketing deal. Thats not what F1 is for. Mercedes, Toyota, BMW, Honda, all of them run their own tech. Cadillac would not. And as if this needed more proof, Cadillac also runs a new LeMans team, but not a single screw or bolt is made by Cadillac themselves. Because no American racing team, or car manufacturer has that kind of expertise.
@@captain_context9991 and audi some how does?
@@captain_context9991F1 is corporate marketing. That’s literally why HAAS is even on the grid he thought they could just buy everything from Ferrari and just show up every weekend and promote his brand. Every team has to develop things in house so your argument of them rebadging things doesn’t make sense.
@@km6832
Audi bought out the Sauber team. Which will be running under the Audi logo from 2026. With all new people.
Try looking things up just once.
Sooo f1 wants Andretti but without andretti. They really hate that guy
Any idea why?
He's still in charge, just not officially
Problem is... GM, Cadillac, does not have anything CLOSE to the technology or expertise to race F1. So everything has to be bought in from other companies. Using Andrettis racing heritage to consolidate this. Which means it will be just a GM badge on somebody elses technology and engineering.
And F1 does not want to be just a billion dollar corporate marketing deal. Thats not what F1 is for. Mercedes, Toyota, BMW, Honda, Ferrari, Mclaren, all of them run their own tech. Cadillac would not. And as if this needed more proof, Cadillac also runs a new LeMans team, but not a single nut or bolt is made by Cadillac themselves. Because no American racing team has that kind of expertise.
Just liberty Media the FIA seem fine with it
@@stuartkinzel8195apparently there was personal issues, something with one of their wives
So it was Liberty Media, basically having a personal vendetta against Andretti? That's what it sounds like to me. It doesn't sound like there had any other problems with the entry besides potentially GM going full works
Well, they are trying to hustle and sneak themselves into F1 using Andrettis street cred and GMs money. But F1 isnt playing along.
Yes. This was obvious from day one to anyone who follows Indycar/US racing news
F1 can't be serious to say that they're denying a new team entry because they "wouldn't be competitive" when they have Sauber on the grid with 0 points with 3 races left in the season. 🤣
Don’t forget, they are turning into Audi which will hopefully give them the backing to do well.
Audi is a laughable brand
I imagine redbull are likely to drop tsunoda after 2025 and Aston will be locked up with stroll, so I could see tsunoda taking one of the Andretti seats for 26 and 27 if Honda ends up supplying them
Tsunoda can only drive for Lada in 2026. and later 😂.
Colton was a young American hope 10 years ago...
He can't even win in Indycar 😮🤔
Andretti steps down and f1 says “ok”
Lol
Andretti-Cadillac? ❌
Cadillac? ✅
GM-Honda-Cadillac (yes, with redundancy)
Zandvoort ad jumpscare
Yes, I think they should legally mark it as an AD...
Wtf was that Dutch GP promo? 💀
What stops GM from selling their shares back to Andretti and the team from renaming itself to "Michael Andretti's Personal Hobby Project" after they're approved and become part of Concorde Agreement? Silly requirement.
Honestly I hope that happens. Fuck F1 for trying to stifle competition. Teams are worried about lesser payouts with more competition? Make faster cars.
This is exactly what they would do. And everybody knows it.
GM owns zero Andretti Global shares, for starters
Michael can probably negotiate a deal with Honda to get a customer engine with his ties to the manufacturer.
Also Honda and GM have worked together on other projects in the past.
The commercial angle, imo, should be flatout ignored when determining whether or not to admit a team. F1 is a _sport_ not a f*cking product to be sold.
FIA governs the sporting aspect, and Liberty govern the commercial aspect. That’s the whole point of the Concorde agreement
13 teams were going to be grid in 2010. 13 teams is the maximum they can STILL have. Good all around especially for drivers and engineers.
To be honest, that failed spectacularly. 2010 was a good season, but the new teams were not even close to be competitive. I understand F1 not wanting another HRT or Virgin.
Finally Addretti is here..
Once they get into the grid, a name change back to Andretti will be very welcome, just to piss the full-of-prejudice F1.
Forgot one important point: a new Concorde Agreement will be put in place between now and their entry, with the entry fee tripled or more to at least 600 million USD.
That, along with liberty CEO leaving, is the key.
why dont people like Michael Andretti? What did he do to piss off so many power brokers in F1?
He's American, has self-confidence and comes from outside the European good old boys club
So we're entering another era of manufacturers, merc, ferrari, mclaren, red bull and RB (with help from ford), haas (with help from Toyota), audi, GM, aston martin (with honda) and alpine possibly...
might want to scratch alpine off the list
@Jackinacox it's getting close 😂
@@Jackinacoxummm have you been watching, they climbed from p10 to p6 and are switching to Mercedes engines
F1 has needed a new team on the grid for some years now but I think it’s taken so long because the teams hold too much voice on the sport and use f1 reps as a puppet to voice what they really want
The reasoning of the FIA are ridiculous. Why it's taking so long to approve the Andretti entry into Formula 1. Those mentioned reason for blocking the approval by the FIA are absurd. There's no reason not to accept them they have the expertise and the budget S o what the hell Its taking so long.
If Renault had any intelligence, they'd ditch the Mercedes deal, offer a GM a short term deal re-start development, and have data from 4 cars not 2.
Renault having a plan. That's a good one.
That was their initial plan, but as you said, top management is lacking both in vision and smarts.
These idiots don't even know how to manage their Alpine brand on the commercial side of things (EB110 looks great, but A290 doesn't belong in), and it's a testament to how good they are that their F1 project is now faring worse with a CEO allegedly in favour of it, in contrast to Carlos Ghosn' era one, who definitely wasn't.
Yes, but they need an engine for short term anyway. Even GM would be a customer team for 2026/27.
@@5340robert What irks me (as a McLaren fan) who has a soft spot for Renault, is it doesn't market very well when you a car and engine manufacturer in and out of M/Sport can't build a good engine and have to get one from somewhere else.
Twice as much data to not understand
When they drop the Andretti name from the bid, get the green light and then unveil Andretti as a title sponsor. 😂😂😂
The uncompetitive reason is BS. Teams are worried of losing that good prize money.
Tell me you dont want an American in F1 but you want American fans and money without saying it
I’m not a Bottas fan but Mercedes put him through it and then he got stooped down to Sauber, he deserves that seat.
If Red Bull/Ford forced to supply Cadillac would be the funniest timeline
One or two new teams are more than welcome.
No. F1 does not want more than 10 teams on the grid. So if 2 more teams want in, 2 other teams need to leave.
@@captain_context9991 Yes F1 was welcome to have 13 teams in 2010. So your argument means nothing.
@@TBCFormula
Oh, because nothing could possibly have changed since 2010?
This isnt something I just made up. Audi / Porsche wants in. So they bought an already existing team. Because there is no room for new teams.
Maffei tells Mario Andretti recently that he "will do everything in his power" to stop Michael from entering F1.
1. Maffei has been fired and has no power now (and no one volunteers to moves on from a powerful and lucrative position without a better gig, which Maffei does not have.)
2. Why would Maffei have said such a thing? What made Maffei so furious at America's famous racing family? Andretti's confrontational/abrasive approach? No, I think that just gets an emphatic "NO".
Recall that the United States senate moved to launch a DOJ investigation into F1 anti-competitive tactics. This investigation could have resulted in the government looking at Liberty Media much more closely, including financials and tax issues. Now, if Liberty very much want to avoid such scrutiny Maffei's harsh rejection and words to Mario can be seen as a serious blunder.
I genuinely think I’m going to stop watching formula 1. Im beyond sick of the inauthentic nature of everything. It’s 99% reality tv and 1% sport. Not to mention that they treat their fans horribly. The business side of the sport has evolved into this grotesque version of itself. This isn’t Motorsport. It’s lost ALL of what makes racing amazing.
Finally someone saw sense. Let’s get a new team on the grid
For a new team to get on the grid, another team needs to leave. F1 does not want more teams.
OUT OF NOWHERE: Dutch GP ad 😬
Reminds me of that scene from Major League when the team finds out the owner is betting for them to come in dead last so she can move the team to Miami.
Taylor says “well I guess there’s only one thing left to do then…win the whole f@cking thing.” LFG.
Imagine if andretti joins up, then right behind is penske...
I looked at the teams that were in favour of Michael Andretti's bold initiative to enter F1 and who were against. Only McLaren and Alpine were for Andretti being in F1 and I find myself asking whether the others have no vision and additionally lack the courage to see F1 itself grow. For them it's better the ( devil ) ten you know than the eleven with an element of the unknown.
I'm glad things are about to change but I lament that the name of Andretti may not be as prominent. A sad reflection of the absence as I said of courage to take F1 to another higher level and the presence of not a little envy too perhaps. Given that Michael Andretti has driven the project this far it would have been fitting that his name does not fade away as the project becomes a reality and grows with the passage of time.
The race is sponsored by the Dutch Gp?
That's.......... random
Seems dubious to be sponsored by the exact thing that the Race is covering...
The other teams who were resisting may have shot themselves in the foot. They are still bound by the rules limiting CD and wind tunnel testing. Since Andretti is not an "official" entry, they can do all the cd and wind tunnel testing they want. Andretti may not be as far behind as others are suggesting when they hit the grid.
Way to finesse his way into F1!!! Gotta love Michael Andretti's determination! An American driver is a MUST. TBH, this is a perfect opportunity to bring Danny Ric back onto the grid given his experience and popularity with the American fans. Then partner him with Herta. Great base.
The rejection was just a petty personal beef with Michael Andretti, embarrassing for F1.
Boy, they (insecure FIA management) really hate the Andretti name, despite it being one of the best known family names in motorsport history….
If I'm understanding correctly:
1. It was personal
2. US politics caused heads to roll within FIA leadership?
The real reasons
>F1 lost a manufacturer(Renault) which is embarrassing considering the excuses they put out Pre-season.
>The CEO who had the vendetta to block the new team is stepping down
Another very important thing the guy the CEO had the vendetta against removed himself from the bid. (At least until it goes through)
So it was personal after all 😂
Nah, they are trying to grift and scam their way into F1 and F1 doesnt want to be just an american corporate marketing deal.
@@captain_context9991 so ur telling me that f1 managment were fine a few years ago with the entry but then they deny it, after that andretti steps down and immediatly they accept them as a new team and that isnt personal? also I think theres worse teams than what andretti would be but ok
@@shadowduds
@shadowduds
All the other fluff is just public perception. Im trying to explain it in general terms.
The fact is... GM / Cadillac does not have the technology or engineering skills to race F1. So they are trying to blag their way into F1 by using Andrettis international street cred and GMs money. But F1 is not taking the bait because they know that it would just be Cadillacs logo on somebody elses car. And F1 does not want to be just a billion dollar corporate marketing deal. Thats not what F1 is about.
So after a lot of back and forth, Andretti / Cadillac are viewed as grifters and hustlers and made themselves unpopular.
@@captain_context9991 "GM / Cadillac does not have the technology or engineering skills to race F1"
they have done incredible advancements, they definetly have the technology, in the video they have already talked about wind tunnel testings, cockpit safety and they have gained so many plp from the F1 world already. Also I want to point out that Haas still doesnt have a simulator after 9 years in the sport, I would bet Haas is less technologically advanced than Andretti rn.
And GM is the largest car manufacturer in america theres no way they dont have the technology.
@@shadowduds
Yeah.... By setting up a proxy in England where 80% of F1 teams are. Where they can easily buy the manpower, engineering skills and technology.
If you need further proof of this. Look at Cadillacs new LeMans team. Which is exactly 0% engineered by themselves.
Haas is another America-LICENSED team. They have a headquarter in North Carolina, but all their tech is done in Banbury England and Maranello Italy. They got an engine from Ferrari, chassis from Italian Dallara, and bought their racing team from ex Jag and Red Bull employees.
At least the FIA and FOM are showing consistency in how inconsistent they are
I genuinly not know how to feel about this news🤷🏻🤷🏻
I think more big manufacturers in f1 can only be a good thing. Be cool to see bmw come back aswell
@@Theriotwright
Problem is... GM, Cadillac, does not have anything CLOSE to the technology or expertise to race F1. So everything has to be bought in from other companies. Which means it will be just a GM badge on somebody elses technology and engineering.
And F1 does not want to be just a billion dollar corporate marketing deal. Thats not what F1 is for. Mercedes, Toyota, BMW, Honda, all of them run their own tech. Cadillac would not. And as if this needed more proof, Cadillac also runs a new LeMans team, but not a single screw or bolt is made by Cadillac themselves. Because no American racing team has that kind of expertise.
@@shanefanon There's a bit of comment on your bitterness
@shanefanon bro what is wrong with you, I literally just wrote I don't know if GM would be a good or bad thing for the sport😂😂
"Liberty Media" about to get some real liberation 🦅🦅💥💥🇺🇸🇺🇸
Liberty Media is an American owned company lol
Could GM not buy Renault's 26 emgine enry?
You need to work on your ad transitions….it was like a car accident in this video
Could the exit of Mafei on the Liberty, who quote "would personally make sure Andretti woill never get on the grid," be also a factor to this
Andretti has not left, simply behind the scenes, his stepping down was a prerequisite to get into F1
The Euros are afraid of a Burger team.
Who did he piss off ?? There has to something that’s kept him out till now
The fact that F1 doesn't want the GM vs. Ford (Red Bull) rivalry is crazy
So this was clearly a "I'm not letting Michael anywhere near F1" was the only true factor
Well... GM wants to hustle and scam their way into F1 using Andrettis street cred and GMs money, but F1 does not want to be just a billion dollar marketing deal. It would be just a Cadillac logo on a car made by somebody else. Just like Cadillacs LeMans car which is 0% built, or run by Cadillac. Cadillac simply does not have the engineering or technology to be at F1 levels. So instead they are trying their best to sneak around the rules.
Andretti can run the team like Pratt Miller run Corvette Racing. I personally would choose Chevy rather than Cadillac as it’s already a global brand. Seeing the bow tie on the car would be so cool.
11:12 could have just changed the script, Lando?? 😂😂
I want them to absolutely humble the most arrogant people in F1
If Honda is the power-train they use, you could almost bet that Honda would insist on one of it's works drivers in the car...enter Yuki.
Is it just me but it seems like someone has a problem with Michael
I'm looking forward to hearing the VBSC jingle when they announce that they won't have Valteri as a driver.
This is the first time I've seen a video be sponsored by an entire grand prix circuit/city.
Indeed! Spot on RACE!
An Andretti built car on the grid before a works Audi car makes it to the grid is now actually possible - and would be hilarious.
I was so right! The delayed saying yes so the lego set for 2025 wasnt missing a team.
If it was down to the Donald, surely it would be Tesla on the grid…😳
Great video. Thanks for sharing
They really just have beef with andretti for no reason
And this is why the FIA should be in charge of F1, not Liberty Media
I will believe it when a car is on the grid. If then name Andretti doesn't get on the grid, but the GM bid does, that shows it was a personal attack on Micheal.
Yeah Baby!!!!!!! Let's get it on!!!!!!!
It's personal.
Would be funny if GM was supplied engines by Honda given how indycar is engine-wise
Currently GM engines in Indycar are built by Ilmor, who used to build the Honda engines before HPD got back into Indycar several years ago. So it's all very mixed up anyways. GM and Honda actually work together on many projects.
@ makes it even funnier then, the gm is actually honda underneath. And yeah they worked together on the EV platform the Honda Prologue sits on
@@charlespletzke8311 Traces back to Saturn, the 3.5L V6 in the Vue was from Honda, but other projects throughout, Honda receiving Isuzu diesel engines, a subsidiary of GM at the time.
The politics of the FIA and F1 are ridiculous.
Can SOMEONE explain WHY Liberty media head Greg Maffei and FOM in general have such a hard-on for the Andretti's FFS?
Its not about that. This is a case of Cadilac trying to hustle and sneak themselves into F1 using Andrettis street cred and GMs money. But F1 isnt playing along.
Good to see other people also can see what is going to happen here once everything is signed and greenlighted, Michael Andretti will be back doing whatever he wants no matter what.
"Cadillac" is such a weird choice of brand, being known for large luxury sedans for the most part. I'd have thought Corvette or something would be a better GM brand for racing
Soooooo F1 more or less just admitted they had a petty feud with a man and that’s why F1 didnt want the team???? So much for the “pinnacle of racing”
USA ban F1 from racing in the USA unless a real US team is permitted on the grid!
@@stevejh69 cota would be missed but not the other shit tracks and no us team. deal
Definitely Botas / Colapinto for Cadillac F1, Botas already has the mullet and Colapinto is South American, which is close enough really.
The whole Anti-Andretti plotline has me kinda hoping F1 falls apart once Max gets bored of it.
A full GM works team with more control sounds great. Couldn't care less if Andretti gets sidelined.
Need to sort by Newest because most of the top comments here are populated by replies from one git with a bone to give.
I'm not going to bother about the reasons for the rejection, because it seemed like F1 is being very political, so if there's a way to give the F1Group a black eye, I'd be very happy.
9:31 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 made me laugh out loud
I feel like at some point in the past, Michael Andretti told somebody at F1 their mother was fat, and ever since they have done everything to keep him out.
So basically it's a fuck you to Michael by F1.
Andretti/Cadillac... Is about to show “Formula-1”... The Fury Of Pure Americana, Big-Time?!
@@X-Warrior.1119 haha delusional
I have a driver suggestion too, one of America's greatest: Logan Sargent
It’s utterly weird that the team can’t wear the name of Andretti…
10:10 why would they make a deal with Honda, when a GM owned brand is literally competing with Honda in indycar?
Although it does look like they hate the guy I think the real reason is that they would be worried about such a weakly setup team (everything bought in externally) would lower the overall perceived value of formula 1, especially the top teams.
Let's get down to Earth.
GM is not going to develop a power unit from now until the homologation date, even if some work has been done already. Neither will Cadillac run with a Honda PU.
So, if GM is going to enter the sport, it will do so in 2028 at the earliest. It is extremely optimistic to expect any kind of power unit to be ready before then.
GM was already going to badge Renault units as Cadillac, that was their original plan over a year ago. Join in 2026, run customer engines (with Cadillac badging) then their own motors by 2028. They are very likely going to be badging Honda units as Cadillac, which is better than their original plan to badge Renault units. Factor in Andretti's connection to Honda and Honda and GMs already strong working ties and it will be a no brainer for GM to badge Honda units until 2028.