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  • @idaofficial1173
    @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Commonly asked questions:
    #1 How many trackers can I use?
    The headset supports 5 trackers by itself, and you'll have to use the dongle plug in to the headset in order to use the initial 5. If you want to use an additional 5, meaning 10 trackers then you'll have to attach a second dongle to the PC for the additional 5 trackers and use the Vive streaming app to set them up. So, in order to have 10 trackers active at once you need headset, battery, plus PCVR.
    #2 How well do they work with PCVR vs headset? They work about the same but I will say the accuracy with the XR Elite headset seems better. Also with PCVR (any headset but XR elite or Focus 3) it seems like you need the dongle CLOSER to your playspace in order to improve the accuracy so I have my dongle attached to a USB-C to USB-A cord. If you're not using the XR Elite, I recommend having the tracker dongle closer to your playspace.
    #3 Do they get occluded easily? NO. In fact the only way I lose tracking is if I cover them completely with my clothes, or if you put them on your ankles but then you're wearing baggy pants or something like that. The trackers require a well lit room but other than that, they work very well out of the box.

    • @jacobreigle9176
      @jacobreigle9176 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Finally somebody who's actually using his headset and can respond to questions. I see that you said you were able to use the index controller via PC VR now what happens with the factory controllers because I've noticed when I did that the controllers wanted to be trackers.

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@jacobreigle9176 ok! So make sure that you ENABLE "hand tracking" in your XR Elite vive hub (or w.e. the default vr space is called when you first power on your headset) settings, then BEFORE you select steam VR in the library, TURN OFF THE ELITE CONTROLLERS. Then use hand tracking to start steam VR, you can point your hand at the menu and select steam VR. Remember, before you start steam vr, all of your ultimate trackers should be on and tracking if you're using an XR elite headset.
      Once you're in steam VR, you'll need to use Open Vr space calibrator. Now turn on the index controllers. If they show up and are tracking then you should be good

    • @jacobreigle9176
      @jacobreigle9176 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@idaofficial1173 awesome thanks man

    • @NicholasPleppoHarris
      @NicholasPleppoHarris 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      not directly related to the headset but the mention of the diver x gloves.
      I have been considering getting the rev 2 with the controller attachments and using slime vrs as the tracker for the glove. is this possible? I've had mixed answers that the slimes wouldn't be able to track fast enough, but I'd have inside out issues with ultimates as the trackers for the gloves. I'm trying to stay away from base stations and wires entirely, but I'm trying to drop controllers I have to hold all the time.
      can someone please enlighten me from here on if slimes or at the worse case, ultimates work for the diver rev 2 gloves

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NicholasPleppoHarris I want to get the revision 2 and test them. I only have the 1.0 version but I can upload a video using that with these trackers

  • @Kairidjj
    @Kairidjj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Man this is extremely useful! Very full of information, honest info!

  • @JL_infinite
    @JL_infinite 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This is fire thank you for all the information.🔥🔥

  • @KumaTempest6557
    @KumaTempest6557 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    THIS IS SO DOPPPEEEE, can’t wait for more content like this and more

  • @papajose1148
    @papajose1148 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Great honest review 💯 I needed this

  • @vrliquid
    @vrliquid 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    was waiting for a review like this, thank you so much jj!

  • @SiNc0001
    @SiNc0001 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    i love you for doing this

  • @GhostPsi69
    @GhostPsi69 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    For anyone asking the original XR elite controllers are not as great as the index but they are pretty similar if you add extra grips: The Quest 2 extended grips works if you remove the plastic piece. Add that and 3 ultimate trackers and you have yourself a very wireless setup!

    • @TargotheWart-mc6il
      @TargotheWart-mc6il 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which extended grips are you referring to? There's about a dozen different brands that make those, so its hard to guess which ones would work.

    • @GhostPsi69
      @GhostPsi69 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TargotheWart-mc6il Anyone of the extended grips should work, I prefer the kiwi design :)

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's the ring and the fact I can't place my hands out of sight of the headset for me, but if people don't care about that, then the XR controllers are fine as is

  • @LostKronos
    @LostKronos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    this is crazy 🔥🔥

  • @Borntobreach
    @Borntobreach 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Currently vive is selling a package deal for the head set, controllers, some accessories, and 5 trackers that totals to 1700 usd

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  หลายเดือนก่อน

      i never saw this but thats not bad for everything tbh you'll never need to spend that money again

  • @Snitchie
    @Snitchie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thanks for sharing, Im still sitting on the fence to see how these will work on pico 4 headset. I am dancing in the pico with 12 slimevr (=8 vive), but there is drift, so gotta hit yaw rest button here and there depending on how fast i move. So we wait ^^

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I added a "commonly asked questions" to the comments section here. I understand waiting due to the price. They already lowered the trackers initial price from 250 at release to now 200, so we may see a price of 150 soon which puts them more in line with the vive 3.0 trackers at 130 USD

    • @Snitchie
      @Snitchie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@idaofficial1173 Thanks for reply, ye I must wait , student here ^^ Can live with FBT drift for some more time ^^

  • @lo_bobvrc
    @lo_bobvrc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Awesome to see HTC catering to people who cant use traditional trackers because of their playspace.
    great video JJ!

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! I appreciate the feedback

  • @synyster_vr3950
    @synyster_vr3950 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You set out and accomplished to so set up an awesome organization / community. love the comparison. Have you tried the Big screen beyond vr yet?

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I haven't but I've only heard good things about it

  • @NeiyahVR
    @NeiyahVR 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    9:16 this exclude VR Ready Computer price

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Oh I sincerely hope people aren't looking at trackers when they don't even have a PC that can run VR lol

    • @Jose-m8g
      @Jose-m8g 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@idaofficial1173 I did!! That's why I got the Xr Elite and the ultimate trackers!! Need no more as for now

  • @andreasmeow452
    @andreasmeow452 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    thankz fur the vid -w-

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ty for the comment

    • @andreasmeow452
      @andreasmeow452 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@idaofficial1173 no problemo matey :3

  • @TheWanderingMonk-ch7pb
    @TheWanderingMonk-ch7pb 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You should see how well you can do intricate movments with it instead of big movments

  • @VRChance
    @VRChance 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Returned my utlimate trackers. I really wanted to like them but I swapped them out for tundras. My current setup is q3 with 4 tundras 1 for continuous tracking and 3 for body tracking index controllers.
    I never tried using them with a xr elite though. My experience using them in steamvr with other headsets was buggy at best. I tried experimenting with lighting and rooms and various items in the rooms to improve tracking and nothing made it perfect.

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea I told people in the FAQ and vive told people themselves on twitter, discord, etc that the PCVR software for the trackers is in BETA! So that means beta bugs, and other headaches. I recommend waiting for anyone who DOES NOT have XR Elite or focus 3 as it seems that the headsets are made in way that the trackers work seamlessly with them.

  • @8x13b
    @8x13b 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great info! Have you tried out the SlimeVR trackers?

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No I haven't, I have heard they are on backorder by a lot,but I have seen some videos of them

  • @gonsodany
    @gonsodany 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    just a quick note, you DONT need the xr elite for these trackers, you can use any headset that connects to steamvr. I've been using the pico 4 with these trackers for almost a month now

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      This is in the pinned comment as well. Although to be fair, I didn't do a 1 to 1 comparison of both specifically since my setup requires 6-8 trackers so I'll never use just 5 or just 3. Although I'm sure that anyone who buys the trackers for PCVR only will see that it's a step above the 3.0's IMO

    • @syrenvrc4037
      @syrenvrc4037 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How did you set them up together, i got the pico 4 pro myself

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@syrenvrc4037Join the vive discord, they have a link to the beta software there for PCVR set up

    • @lilkg69
      @lilkg69 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah but you have to calibrate them together and they’re way more likely to lose tracking

    • @gonsodany
      @gonsodany วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lilkg69 you only need to calibrate one, not all

  • @Eyeofnelms
    @Eyeofnelms 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Does it work for headsets other than the Vive XR Elite? I want to try them so badly but I don't want to buy something I can't use period because I lack the correct headset (on quest pro)

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You can use them with PCVR (any headset), but the build is currently in BETA, from my experience YES it works but I've found they work better with the headset hook up, I am sure that future iterations of the PCVR implementation will make the tracking better in the future. I can make a video doing a PCVR comparison for 3.0s and ultimate trackers using my vive pro instead of XR Elite.

  • @Eqccc
    @Eqccc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yo my elite keep flashing black with the vive logo everytime i play vrchat is there a way to play pcvr with wire only or how do i fix this? ;( pls help

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      most likely your graphics settings is too high for your wifi speed.

  • @sparked6098
    @sparked6098 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Is there any official discord group for the dancing?

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yes there is! If you play vrchat check out IDA official VR, the group is open and the discord is linked there

  • @TechMaestro01
    @TechMaestro01 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The XR Elite is seriously slept on.

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's due to it's price for sure

  • @Schlafbeduerftigmc
    @Schlafbeduerftigmc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very interesting, incase i ever switch to a similar setup i will remember this

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      if the 3.0's end up getting phased out like the 2.0's it may be another year or so before vive phases them out I'm assuming

  • @wilko169
    @wilko169 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very torn between meta pro and this headset when it comes to face tracking

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I made a new video on the headset check it out! It's the newest video on the channel

  • @nissacavazos691
    @nissacavazos691 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you make a tutorial on how to connect the index controllers to the xr elite?!?! I can’t figure it out😕

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      once you connect to steam vr just use openspace calibrator

  • @onionvr1878
    @onionvr1878 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:08 One of the things about HTC Vive Tracker 1.0-3.0's is they work miles better with proper USB Bandwidth, buying a USB 3.0 PCIE card off Amazon and plugging them into that will increase the tracking A LOT! My one complaint about the Ultimate Tracker's is when you jump high and there's hard contact with the floor and the trackers shake, they seem to lose tracking (Neldy showed a really good example of this in his Ultimate Tracker tracking test). Although they do regain it quickly though.

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The complaint of when neldy does a back flip and lands with the full force of his bodyweight onto the floor, sending the vibration and momentum through his legs ,into the trackers, which causes the trackers to shake is such a niche thing and 99.99% of users won't even be doing anything like this. Since the tech is so small, if you send impact force through them at that velocity , it's definitely going to jarr it for a second. I Suppose landing lighter would be an option but this scenario doesn't apply to the overwhelming majority of people who buy trackers.

    • @onionvr1878
      @onionvr1878 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@idaofficial1173 Makes sense

  • @onrop2004
    @onrop2004 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wonder if the quest pro controllers care compatible with the xr elite?

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HMMMMMMMMMM interesting question since both of these headsets use the headset and not base stations to track the controllers. I have no idea if this would work or not without base stations and open space calibrator which appears to be the go-to app for making different VR headset accessories work interchangeably

  • @Laiceu_
    @Laiceu_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's been 3 months since your awesome video, i want to ask, is the software for the PCVR version still in beta? I really want to get trackers as i want to learn dancing in VR. Unfortunately, my room setup makes it so that base stations are impossible to set up. I have been thinking whether to get the IMU LSM trackers or the ultimate trackers. Has the ultimate trackers been improved since you made this video?

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      im going to be honest: for pcvr? NOT REALLY, so I say this only because I used them recently and I think I need to make a follow up video this about the do's and don't and how these things work for PCVR because it is a WORLD of a difference from using it with the xr elite

    • @Laiceu_
      @Laiceu_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@idaofficial1173 What's your opinion about imu tracker like SlimeVr ?

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Laiceu_ ok so those are bad vs just normal 3.0s

    • @Laiceu_
      @Laiceu_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@idaofficial1173 got it! i will look forward to your follow up videos about this

  • @Magidiny123
    @Magidiny123 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would the ultimate trackers and the dongles be able to communicate with each other through walls at a distance of 40 feet away?

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This is only possible if you're using the XR elite since the dongle is literally attached to your head. I mapped several rooms in my house with the XR elite and had no issues since the dongle will never lose tracking since it is always close to the trackers

  • @yuido
    @yuido 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In your video, you said that Ultimate Tracker works better than Vive Tracker 3.0. Since you've probably tried different variations, I have a question. Which of the following do you think will provide more accurate tracking?
    4x base stations + valve knuckle controller + 8x vive 3.0 trackers + quest 3 headset = ~2500 usd
    2x base stations + valve knuckle controller + 5x vive ultimate truckers + XR Elite Headset = ~2500usd

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      the ultimate trackers were made for the ELITE, although you can use them with other headsets with PCVR, you have to remember that software is current in BETA. So you have 3 options: get elite bundle with ult trackers. #2 get quest like you listed above but just deal with the issues you'll have with the beta software. #3 just wait until the software is out of beta and there are no issues with the software if you want to use it with quest or another headset that is not the XR elite.

  • @MysticalRavenGaming
    @MysticalRavenGaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am getting 3 ultimate and bigscreen for my upgrade

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the comment, I wonder how well it works for PCVR since the software is in beta but I think if you're not doing backflips or breakdancing, it should work really well haha

    • @MysticalRavenGaming
      @MysticalRavenGaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @idaofficial1173 Before I buy them, I am looking at a good haptic suit. I wanted the owo, but I haven't found articles of people being able to use it with vrchat

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think just for sensations, get the bhaptic suit, the owo suit is specifically for causing pain

    • @MysticalRavenGaming
      @MysticalRavenGaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@idaofficial1173 ya but I can turn the setting down so I am not killing my self.
      I want to lay down and be comfy n stuff with it not feeling like I am wearing a bullet proof vest you know

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MysticalRavenGaming ahahaha that's actually a very good point and yea in that case the owo suit definitely feels like you're just wearing a shirt. I recently got it for mys kyrim VR build, if you saw my video " i made a real life isekai in skyrim vr with 3k mods episode 1" video it does comfortably add another level of immersion to the vr experience

  •  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How are you able to use Index controllers with your XRE? Are you letting steam handle the connection and simply powering down the Vive controllers so they dont take priority?

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok so the XRE has hand tracking and you can use your hands to select things from the menu. Before I start steam VR through the Vive streaming Hub, I turn off my controllers for the XRE then select steam VR with my hands. Once steam vr is started and connected, I use my index controllers and then open space calibrator

  • @Xionnara
    @Xionnara หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great video!!

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! I made an updated video about a set using the XRE where you only have to wear the glasses!

    • @Xionnara
      @Xionnara หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ i believe just watched it! the one where you attach a separate battery from amazon & put it in a backpack. i've been wanting fbt for so long, but im afraid of base stations breaking 😭 i'm seriously considering your set up. where can i join your discord?

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Xionnara discord link here discord.gg/tXNMAHff

    • @Xionnara
      @Xionnara หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@idaofficial1173 my man 🙏🏽

  • @isids
    @isids 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    do you know what neldy uses? his headset and his trackers stay on so perfectly and i’m learning the same style of dance

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If I am not mistaken neldy uses the 3.0 trackers and he only uses three trackers. He uses Vive pro with wireless. I believe all of his stuff is strapped to his body as well in order to keep it stable

    • @isids
      @isids 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@idaofficial1173 ohhh bet i appreciate that thank you

  • @andricstudioyt1779
    @andricstudioyt1779 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe quest pro controllers?

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      so I have not tried using quest at ALL. I have no experience 1st hand of quest products so I didn't say anything about them in the video. If I could get a quest 3 I'd test it out but for now, I have no idea.

  • @NWinnVR
    @NWinnVR 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jitter is local only. It's smoothed over the network, which is way other people's IK look smoother. For locally recording _OVR-SmoothTracking_ on booth fixes this.
    Also, if you have 4 BS's and you still are getting drift, I hate to say it but that's on you somehow.. I only use three 2.0 stations and my 11pt tracking is flawless.. I stage dance at events a lot so any drifting and especially flyaway would be unacceptable to me.
    If you have nothing reflecting in your play-space (it's not just glass, plastic and even hardwood floor's can reflect IR) then It might be an interference issue with the dongles being too close or all on the same (internal) usb controller (just because the plug is different doesn't mean they're not connected in the computer to the same bus) Getting a USB hub with individual controllers for each port can fix this.
    Overall like the vid and glad the UT's are working well though.

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      jitter for local is still an issue because if you make content like VR films/videos or stream in VR, the jitter is there when you're recording locally or streaming locally, and the jitter is seen by the audience which often takes away from the impact of the content. Since when I dance I do speed changes from slower movements to quick ones, the OVR smoothing app could actually cause what appears to be latency as my foot or hands move slower than my actual hands as it works to smooth out the jitter. We used to use that app before VRC's IK smoothing updates, it's not a bad app for 3.0's it's just not needed anymore with the ULT trackers although I may test a low setting for them with the index controllers since those still jiggle.
      As far as drifting with 3.0's and reflective surfaces you're right, but I do like that the ULT trackers don't have all of these variables that could make it not work vs it just working out of the box which means you can actually use your VR room as a streaming space or as an actual room by being able to put things in it vs having it completely bare so you don't have anything that effects the base stations. Again, if you want 11 point tracking, its a hefty price so it's up to the end user to decide if it's worth it for them.

  • @Zoey-TV
    @Zoey-TV 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are the trackers directly recognised by steam when using them on the xr elite?

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When you use the XR-ELITE , their program "vive streaming" has steam recognize them as 3.0 trackers. Essentially vive streaming hooks into steam vr very much how the quest link works for quest 3

  • @andreasmeow452
    @andreasmeow452 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    owo 4 hrs ago

  • @drkreuzer670
    @drkreuzer670 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool! wish i can buy it and have it shipped to my country! q-q

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What country are you in?

  • @babyaryy9605
    @babyaryy9605 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is off topic, but is that avatar public and if so can I get the name please? :)

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LMAO it's Korean hip-hop dancer

  • @mohamedelbashir1529
    @mohamedelbashir1529 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    what avatar is this?

  • @TebbleTV
    @TebbleTV 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    VR is expensive

  • @amadeuscrossing7061
    @amadeuscrossing7061 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everyone about to be disappointed.
    Edit:
    I own 3 ultimate trackers and use it on pcvr with Quest 3

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      PCVR ultimate tracker software is in BETA so expect beta activities which is why I use the XR+Ult since it works the best

  • @koma_kossy9008
    @koma_kossy9008 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fireeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @pingosabani2477
    @pingosabani2477 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    avatar pls

    • @idaofficial1173
      @idaofficial1173  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it's a custom grus, if you search grus in the menu it should come up