Tesla knew this, tatarians knew this, Egyptians knew this, the higher you go, theres more static atmospheric electric Please look at yt channel GLOBAL VISION
@@divineeyeobserver754 problem with channels as those, they never get to the point quickly and you waste your life watching pointless opinions and conjecture.
Nice video. It is great to show how ideas often may not work on the first try, but that this is not a reason to give up, as they can still work with additional effort.
The Benjamin Franklin key story is a Masonic occult parable. A key unlocking / locking the heavens. There is a lot of strange stuff with Franklin, Freemasons, and the stories told about them.
This technology has been on the books for so long and yet we haven’t or at some point decided not to use this, but think the applications it can be done like on a big ballon or a high rise building. The sky shouldn’t be the limit. Thanks for bringing this out!
It's kinda useless. Makes for a good project, but it isn't viable for any real... use. You wouldn't be able to charge a phone, in example. Solar panels or wind turbines are significantly more useful than this.
@@TheTattorack That's simply not true. If we spaced copper-lined towers at 50 meter heights across the desert floors here in California, we could generate cities' worth of energy. It's free, always available, and has nothing to do with wind. It has to do with ionization and electron-depleted grounds. Places with lots of water also generate massive amounts of ionization so these could be used in conjunction with dammed rivers. It is calculated that a square meter of space can generate 400,000 volts between the Earth at sea level and the top of the Ionosphere. Do the maths.
@@TheRotnflesh Reading a few sentences on a wiki article does not count as "doing the math". Show me a scientific paper that proves the potential viability of atmospheric electricity extraction, then we'll talk.
Any idea what happens if you make the earth or ground deeper? Or let's say near a deep source of water or a well? I did see somewhere that Tesla built his tower over lay lines or underground water. I was wondering if you can't get higher you could increase the difference by going deerper. Just curious. Thanks, great video.
Yes, having a better ground would have helped. That's why I was holding on to the ground wire with my bare hands, trying to make as much contact as I could. My body was acting as a ground. Connecting it to a big metal plate or wire mesh that was submerged in water would have given a better ground yet.
@@RimstarOrg I was an electrician. We use 10 foot ground rods. We pound them in with a fence post driver. Just make sure that there are no utilities under ground.
If you install 10 - 20 vertical aerial at reducing height and run it through a sequencing high voltage switching chamber and run it through a voltage transformer to earth the height voltage low current could be converted to low voltage high current . Resulting in endless free power. The switching is required to create a varying voltage so the transform will work.
I didn't know this was a thing possible.years ago I had a theory on collecting electricity through atmospheric electricity and drawing lightening to strike a tower and possibly collecting the energy and storing it for future use.
Awesome awesome video thank you so much for all your super interesting and clear presentations and explanations! Iv been following and sharing for a while now! Cheers and best wishes!
Great job not giving up and doing all possible to make it work. The will to succeed certainly has its benefits. When the will of thought manifests into the actions of reality, the rewards are often undescribable. Thanks for taking us on your journey and keep the wonderful videos coming :)
Just a suggestion: Try running your copper wire from the ground up to the top of the CN tower (height of 553.33 metres) and see what results you get. That ought to be enough height to get an atmospheric voltage of just over 50kV. You should be able to run a pretty decent motor with that much potential.
Well, the thing is, buildings like that typically have grounding rods, so the entire building more or less remains at ground potential. That being said, the field lines become more and more compressed the higher up you get, so if you were to fly the drone just ~20 meters perhaps, or maybe a bit more, then you'd probably be able to get up in the tens of kilovolts.
I do believe that as well and the fact that nasa actually did an experiment with that in lo earth orbit extending a line around ten miles before earth turbulence made them cut the line!
+WKDworks -- Was just thinking that. However, I think this is really best as a demonstration of atmospheric electricity, rather than a practical use of it.
+Ostsol Yeah, there's not much practical use other than as a very neat thing and a science demonstration and that's all it was intended as. I've been wanting to do it for at least two decades. I have considered using a balloon but was always afraid of having a wire landing across some electrical system should the wire break near the bottom, like I showed happen in the video. I'm more confident now of how low the odds of that are, but there was no way I was going to do it before these tests.
+gekiryudojo The danger with kites is even worse than with balloons though. With a balloon you can fly it on a windless day and so there's little chance of the wire breaking. With a kite you need a windy day and so the chances of the wire breaking are worse. I recall as a kid flying a kit up to these altitudes and the string breaking near the bottom. The string ended up lying across treetops and branches. I grew up elsewhere in a small mining town surrounded by forests - not even any farmland.) That is unless I'm overly paranoid of wires landing on power lines and power systems.
Can you imagine the HP capability of the motor if magnetic bearings were used? See a lot of similarity to the spires in "Victorian" (but likely much earlier) buildings - did these use atmospheric energy?
This should be tested at the grand canyon. using fiber glass rods and the sides of the canyon to support the copper wire. Also include capacitors and batteries as part of the electrical. Maybe enough power to tricked charge the batteries?
+David S. You're gonna report nothing. If you do, I promise I will look for you, and I will find you. RimstarOrg is under Nedrotnyl's protection, whoever goes against him will go against Nedrotnyl.
What if you find a 200 meter high building, tie the copper line at the top and let it extend to the ground in a 45 degree angle? Or 40 degree angle? The cupper line could be longer than 400 meter, and presumably generate more electricity.
The top of the building would be at ground potential, so it wouldn't work if you tie it to the top of the building. But you could hang a wire between two buildings. The middle of the wire would be at a different potential. See my video here where I explain more about how it work th-cam.com/video/qhXxSAv6rMg/w-d-xo.html
@@RimstarOrg Thank you for the comment. But I am not sure that the building in itself necessarily need to be equivalent to the ground potential -- if you insulate the connection between the building and the copper wire so there is no flow or current between them, then there should be no problem.
Oh, sorry,, I wasn't clear. Because the building is at ground potential, the air nearest it is also at ground potential and the potential (voltage) increases as you go farther from the building. So any sharp points near the building aren't at a high voltage. See the equipotential lines surrounding the building and tree that I show near the beginning of the video I linked to if that's not clearer.
Hmmm... yes, it does sound like the same thing as Saint Elmo's fire. It would be happening at the top of the wire where the sharp points are. Maybe if you did the experiment at night then you'd see a bluish corona around the sharp points.
@@RimstarOrg knowing that there was something as the Baghdad battery thousands of years ago I will say the someone have figured out how to utilize sent Elms fire except what JPMorgan says is true " if I cannot put a meter on it I do not want it " , it's all about money and slavery .
I wonder if you can use a darlington transistor to make amps form the high voltage with a bifilar pancake coil like a joule thief to extract power from an atenna and a ground?
The problem becomes acquiring sufficient charge; the reason the voltage gradient is so high to begin with is because air is a relatively good insulator, so there are a certain amount of ions in a given place, and when you've neutralized those, which happens rather fast, you'd have to wait to collect the next batch, which depending on antenna design and implementation, as well as height and atmospheric conditions, might take a while. On the other hand, if you've got a good antenna, get high enough up, and the conditions are good, you can probably achieve some pretty high amperage. I suppose the epitome of this would be to get a robust antenna high enough up to achieve a standing lightning bolt spark gap, but at that point you're going to have to start considering that a voltage might start to develop in the ground you're discharging from unless you take precautions.
@@hoon_sol The only luck I have had is two matching transforms with one coil 300,000mh or very high henry rating, I put a piezo element across it and get power out from a matching transformer.
check out the levi strauss nederland building in amsterdam. it contains a dodecahedron antenna that is ornamental these days, but the sides of the building contain decorative spheres with spikes (resonator lamps). yes, all ornamental now, but highly likely they were functional as we suspect.. a tartarian antenna is doable, but it won't function correctly without a proper amplifier/resonator. i hate using the term "red mercury" because there's still no solid proof of the stuff (until someone produces it and gets in trouble with the CIA), but... it is highly likely that red mercury was key to the use of atmospheric energy, so that one didn't have to lift a wire hundreds of feet in the air. interesting note though.. today's electronics are technically "dated/useless". an electromagnetic motor consumes way too much energy and is to be considered useless. a proper corona static motor could use up to 90% less electricity and function just as well or even better. what the chap in this video is using is a rudimentary or crude model of a corona motor. the real thing could certainly be used in a blender, fan, or car motor. the amount of electricity at 5ft (a car on rubber tires) with a proper antenna should indeed be able to run perfectly.
I remember watching something on TV years ago about a couple guys researching lightning. They launched small rockets with small thin spools of bare copper wire attached... They were getting lightning to strike on a clear day without a thunder cloud in sight!
The ground rods can be very thin, and may be copper-plated steel to save money. It carries virtually zero current. It could be only some #26 wire leading to an aluminum pan containing a saline solution, lying on the grass or sunk into a shallow pit.
If you mean the wire going into the air, I would think so since at a high voltage the thin enamel insulation on my wire doesn't make much difference. But make sure it doesn't touch anything, otherwise you'll have losses.
Sorry, I don't know. Certainly many orders of magnitude mote than we were producing but we did it just as a fun and challenging science experiment and project.
Well you can mix this with multiple setup and end up with something working(for more you scale), you use capacitor to boost it; converter to put it in ac if you want or just store it in battery as it come out in dc.
It kind of reminds me about what they were talking about what the Sphinx with the pyramids being its own power source by that little Broad in the ground balancing on that water in that bouncing up and down created a electronic charge
Really interesting, great post! Layman's suggestion/question: I wonder if a big helium filled foil balloon carrying that wire up could increase the gains of atmospheric electricity. Or even several big foil balloons evenly space along the wire? Final layman's suggestion/proposal: Using foil tape, attach MANY short lengths of foil ribbon evenly distributed all over the surface of the big helium filled foil balloon(s) attach to the wire and measure any gains. I'm done, thanks!
Totally cool. If I remember the Tesla patent correctly, he used sheets of metal. One suspended in the air, the other buried in the ground. There was then an oscillator driving the HV onto a short secondary to deliver amps. In another paper, to do with attracting atmospheric electricity for the purposes of grounding lightning around/across buildings, he showed with math that using a hollow sphere was much more beneficial for gathering energy. So, how about a large balloon filled with Helium, covered in aluminium foil for the top, with a ground plate of the same capacitance? It doesn't have to be actually buried, but if it were in a conductive gel, such as a salt water/corn starch mix, to connect to the ground laterally, (??) then the current might go up. I don't remember what the galvanic opposite of aluminium is....I think it is lead. So, some lead flashing might be worth a try for the ground plane??
I've read that Tesla was making use of the photoelectric effect. This effect is a different one entirely and needs sharp points high up in the air. Check out my follow-up video about how it works th-cam.com/video/2rVdEhyMR6A/w-d-xo.html. I did once play with Tesla's method but didn't go very far with it.
With high voltage and low current, you should be able to use a transformer to bring the voltage down to a useful level and the current up as well. Need a mechanical circuit break to cause alternating magnetic fueld though
@@G-ra-ha-mdoesn't need AC just needs field that builds and collapses. Simple off and on will do that. But as I said need a mechanical means of breakin and making the circuit
@@visionofwellboyofficial You don't understand electric virus? How about Virial theorem? How would you think kinetic energy affects humans on the scaler level? LTE = Long Term Evolution. CME= Corona Mass Ejection. It's all nothing but radiation. Learn the symptoms of Corona Discharge and compare to this "vi-rus".
I have a video somewhere that a man on TH-cam flying a drone around that had no battery just a coil in resonance with the coil on the Tesla coil it had enough power to run the chopper, he did explain how it worked but not sure now something to do with running the motor with induction rather then pushing the motor with amps.
I would imagine that the atmospheric electric field changes daily. Did you try it on different days and different weather patterns? We used to have a bank of spark gap style lightning arrestors to protect some radio equipment. During thunderstorms, those things chattered constantly due to the high charge level in the atmosphere at the top of the antenna tower.
I didn't try it in different conditions. My opportunity to do it was very limited. But I did read the same thing, that it varied depending on humidity at least. During a storm, it's even it supposed to be the reverse since the bottoms of the clouds would be negative with respect to the ground.
Many years ago, some scientists stretched an insulated cable between two mountain tops. The result was a nearly steady stream of 15 foot long arcs emanating from the ends of the cable. I read about it in a book titled, "Light and Electricity in the Atmosphere ", by Hal Hellman. It 's been many years, over 40 actually. I was a teen back then.
The higher up in the atmosphere, the greater the voltage output? So thats why Wardenclyfe Tower that Tesla had built stood so high. Amazing free energy experiment! Have you tried to recreate utron regenerative coils?
Seawater should provide a good ground, so yes. I also recall back when I was researching this something about certain kinds of ions being generated near the sea so that may help as well.
it is suspected (speculation yes) that pylons, those high tension power lines) are literally harvesting atmospheric electricity. these wires are suspended by glass insulators, run for miles into the countryside (us and uk) with almost no obstructions in sight. it is estimated to account for 80% of the us' power production, while conventional power plants only account for a mere 15% and 5% from alt energy (solar/wind/etc). don't forget, solar is connected to "feed" the grid, in much the same way a power plant also "feeds" the grid, while the grid itself is the main energy source through atmospheric energy harvest.
@@EbenezerScroogeMcDuck absolutely true...all the governments/families in power have always known these ancient technologies...scammed us all for years
If the wire is very thin, 30 AWG for example, insulated is probably better so that you don't lose charge on the way down. Enameled wire is insulated so that will work.
So for power if you put up an antenna you can tap into the natural electric grid? Tesla spent his time doodling with lightning generators when all was needed was an antenna? Could you electrify a large sphere with a coil underneath in order to step down the lightning to a more consumer available voltage ?
The wire I put up could be used as an antenna, probably a pretty good one. Put a crystal radio at the bottom and you'd probably get a good signal. Or tune into the 60Hz power grid an you'd pick that up instead -- though it'd be illegal so don't do it for too long.
"something went wrong with the hexacopters...and it ent to 120meters" Sure it was te programs fault. lol. Glad it had such a failure in the height limit prog. Awesome stuff.
LOL. Wink wink. Seriously though, that is what happened, or so my friend told me. Whatever happened, I'm glad it did after all that effort. It is possible it would have worked at a lower altitude if the problem was instead that the rotor was being stopped by the wingnut inside the frame. After all, it was when I accidentally knocked into it causing the rotor to shift over that it started working, so the altitude may have not been the issue. I'm glad you liked it, thanks.
The more points of contact in the sky and the ground will produce more amplitude. Same as when people make hydrogen and oxygen from electrolysis. The bigger the surface area of contact the more juice you will get . Be safe around electricity please Dave
Try little metal spheres at the end of those six wires. The idea being ... you want to collect electrons rather than emit them. Think of yourself as an electron in the air seeing that entrance, the point, you want to go there but as you move towards it you're being crowded out by other electrons all trying to go to that same spot. But like a stadium with a nice wide entrance, a sphere gives you more breathing room. Or just an aluminum foil disk on top of the wires, lots of surface area.
@@RimstarOrg Actually I have to correct myself as I thought the air charges were negative so in this case, in those old smoke detectors is a mild radioactive source and might help electrons just off into the air. I don't have first hand experience with it but it struck me when my friend mentioned it, he developed the world's first automated heart defib unit and said he used that principle at the tips of the wings of a model airplane with wires out there, using the electrical potential in the air, that precisely even, for better control/turning. I don't exactly understand but think there might be something to that possibly worth trying here. The material he used may have been beyond alpha though.
I didn't measure the speed but it spun quite fast as you can see in my first video about the motor here th-cam.com/video/hpvHRHs7o7I/w-d-xo.html. I got it going even fast with my HV power supplies in the making video here th-cam.com/video/9uEjXsX1F14/w-d-xo.html.
what happens when it turns out you had a very long radio antenna hanging in the air and were picking up EMR from radio transmissions from everywhere and that was enuf power to make things work...
In this case that's not what's powering the motor since this was an electrostatic motor wouldn't turn if just powered by radio waves. But it would have been fun to hook up my crystal radio and see how loud the output would have been, probably pretty loud! Here's my video on the science behind atmospheric electricity th-cam.com/video/qhXxSAv6rMg/w-d-xo.html
The problem with that is the hill or cliff are at ground potential, 0V, so that wouldn't help. What would work is stringing an insulated line from the top of one hill to the top of another hill, over a valley, and then having the wire go from the ground in the middle of the valley straight up to the line.
The earth is a huge magnet, electrons from the atmosphere fall straight down, they do not flail about. Your copper wire could absorb more electrons if it were stretched above the earth horizontally; more wire = more electrons. Try it. PS....Good video.
If it is close to ground it will have less potential Its because the closer to ground the more of those icons are lost to random electrons from the ground Tho if you can rise this line to higher altitude it will get more current like was done by the ion group A simple line is still less efficient than a sharp point tho
The problem with a building, a residence and a metal pole is that they're all grounded. You need the sharp points where you're collection the charge needs to be far from grounded objects. If you could string a wire made of non-electrically conductive material, such as a nylon fishing line, between two tall objects and then put a lot of sharp points somewhere along the middle of it and then hang a wire down from those sharp points then that might work. I show how a building is grounded in this video where I explain how this works th-cam.com/video/2rVdEhyMR6A/w-d-xo.html
If you're talking about the cable connecting your antenna high up to your circuitry/devices on the ground, then you don't need anything special, just plain old copper write would do perfectly fine, but you can use a coaxial cable if you like. Far more important is the design and implementation of the antenna itself, which should at the very least have as much surface area as possible (making a fractal antenna particularly good in this case).
Can the antenna pick up be mounted horizontal to the ground at about 3 feet or so? Also.. Have the FAA changed the height regulations? It wasn't very long ago it was 400 feet, I set my height to 121 meters which is within our CAA regs here.
+Green Silver No, the antenna has to be vertical. It's making use of the fact that there's a potential difference vertically above ground, as well as some ions. The voltage increases 100 volts/meter as you go up. So at 120 meters the top of the wire was at 12,000 volts with respect to the ground,... well, until it starts conducting, and then much of the potential is down at the corona motor. Regarding the FAA, I'm in Canada (Ottawa). But according to this www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/standards/general-recavi-uav-2265.htm?WT.mc_id=21zwi the limit is 90 meters here. It's labeled safety guidelines but the local drone flyers stick to it. Do you have a link to the CAA regs that have it as 121 meters? It'd be great if that is the case since that's where we had success.
Here's the CAA 400 foot regulations, article 166 clause C. www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=1995&pageid=16012 I thought the FAA had pretty much the same regulations, soon the FAA will be requiring all U.S. UAV's to be registered to an owner. How this will affect Canada I don't know. It's up to the operators to keep up with current regulations, they don't accept ignorance as a good enough excuse.. Fly safe!
Whoa even just the noise of the last spark you got was painful enough o.O And don't let me think once a colleauge of mine was used to search for disfunctions of user terminations (I worked on a telco) by licking is thumb and putting it on the bolts: "shock, shock, shock... hey! I don't get shocked here: this is faulty!" Anyway, I'm pretty curious to try and build something: your videos are pretty amazing (and at least a nice Franklin bell to use at our civil defense area to sound in case of thunderstorm forthcoming would be some nice ^_^ )
the amount of current achieved by the antenna is determined by the mass and surface area of the antenna itself. The voltage is determined by altitude. Increasing at 100v/m
It's possible that the resistance of the long wire is decreasing the available power and so, yes, a thicker copper wire might help. There's so little current here though that I wonder if it would make a difference.
how could you actually make a small corona motor a feasible power source? i dont see running 400 ft of wire into the air as a practical solution to finding power.
it started turning once you put the coil closer to the motor, is it really due to atmospheric current flowing or due to induced current from the coil?.or vice versa
RimstarOrg it would have to be modified to use the highest possible voltage devices and I think it will work possibly it would need multi stage devices there are semiconductor devices which operate in the kilovolt range
I don't know how well is scales as you go higher. The thinner atmosphere may mean fewer ions and so less current but I'm not sure. And thanks! I'm glad to hear you loved it. It was a challenging and fun project.
To get a higher voltage you just have to go higher. A weather balloon would certainly work. I'd just be afraid of the wire breaking low down and the long wire falling across power lines somewhere in the city. Also, make sure it's secured well at the bottom end. But if you don't go in winds that are too strong then you should be fine. If your balloon has enough lift then you could even use a plastic coated wire which won't break.
I also wonder if I could just make more than on of them and link them up and have sort of a grid of towers all set at a fixed hight so I don't get into trouble with the air force
Absolutely. Just keep in mind that if the towers are made of metal or get wet then the towers act as ground and so you'd have to instead string plastic wires from tower to tower and have sharp points somewhere along the middle of that plastic wire and then a copper wire going down from that. There are a number of ways you could do it.
@RimstarOrg what is the lowest (estimated) height that I could start experimenting with if not the 1 meter = (100v) mark? And why is it do you think (or know) that the 1 meter (100v) doesn't seem to yield any discernable results? I understand that the amps really really low, but surely a 100 volts would be detectable/measured in some capacity, no?
You can measure it with an electrometer. Luckily, Caltech has generously put Feynman's lectures online www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html and if you scroll down to the 3rd paragraph, the one that begins, "How can we measure...", you'll see a suggested experiment without having to lift a wire high up.
@RimstarOrg without raising a wire... I'm intrigued! And will sure be delving into that. But in the meantime, do you have a recommendation of pole length to start with? The shortest you'd suggest that is..
I haven't tried it with an electrometer so I don't have a recommendation for pole height. Another approach is to suspend a wire between two well separated, tall poles. Here's a demonstration by Lasersaber of that idea but without the poles th-cam.com/video/3EG-zjqs9xM/w-d-xo.html
I'm sorry if I missed a comment/reply: have you used this to measure static in a thunderstorm? I have a theory I want to try out but have not yet found a way to accurately measure electrical atmospheric strength in various positions in a thunderstorm. Thanks! Cool vid and new ideas!
You have to replace those metal pins with magnets for it to produce actual amperage. Look up the atmospheric electricity generator patent by Roy Meyers.
That doesn't really make sense; in any application for this you will be connecting your antenna to ground through whatever it is that you're doing, so the ions of the air will be attracted to those pins as if they were magnets anyway in this case.
wow plenty of hard work and attempts made, what can we infer from this? the six pointed needles helped improve the setup, the higher the distance the better it gets, the corona motor should have been built and tested on the ground with a spark gap emitter before the real flight attempt?
+fidel catsro I just guessed that the six pointed needle would be better than the two pointed needle given how it works - I don't know that for fact. It was out final flight that finally had success and since we get that success above the height limit, we can't do further testing, though we might do more testing at the limit since weather conditions are a factor. We thought about the spark gap test but we have batteries for only 4 attempts per trip out so went with the corona motor directly. Anyway, winter's starting here so more testing will have to wait until the spring.
Wow, that's pretty tenacious of you, busting through three failures in a row. That was a great demonstration- I guess 1% of the people will miss the thumbs up and accidentally click the thumbs down. (It's happened to me before also as well as reporting videos. Sometimes the settings are just too hair-trigger.) I'm surprised it would give you such a biting shock, but barely turn the motor, when you could run a same-size motor with a AAA battery. For it to continually have that much shock (as opposed to pulsing) seems like it ought to have a lot more energy. Maybe it's because the parts are very large and spaced apart, whereas an electric motor is able to be tiny and it has tiny windings and connections because of its lower voltage, giving it a lot more leverage and immediacy of action. I wonder if it would be safe to do it during a storm? On one hand, it might help discharge and relieve some of the charge instead of allowing it to continue building up. But on the other hand, it might accommodate the charge by causing the atoms in the air to be attracted to the wire and clump together, and providing a physical ladder for the charge to descend along.
+gilbet Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. I don't think the shocks would be continuous; the voltage would take a little time to build up between each shock. However, I didn't test that, for obvious reasons :).
+gilbet I don't know how fast the recharge is. I can't judge it on the fact that the cylinder keeps moving since the cylinder moves pretty easily and so doesn't need a lot of momentum to rotate for a while.
I love the trial and error.. narratives. I like that you don't edit them out. It's more inspiring to me.
That's awesome! I didn't know you could get that much charge at ca. 100m altitude. It's nice to see the behind-the-scenes as well.
Hey, you should string enough of these together to get the 1.21 gigawatts needed to power your Delorean ;)
+Applied Science Thanks Ben! I agree, it is a surprising amount of charge.
Can it can dc toy motor
Tesla knew this, tatarians knew this, Egyptians knew this, the higher you go, theres more static atmospheric electric
Please look at yt channel GLOBAL VISION
@@divineeyeobserver754 problem with channels as those, they never get to the point quickly and you waste your life watching pointless opinions and conjecture.
Nice video. It is great to show how ideas often may not work on the first try, but that this is not a reason to give up, as they can still work with additional effort.
First time I see your comment anywhere
love your channel man
From Ben Franklin attaching a key to his kite to Steve attaching a corona motor to his drone xD
The Benjamin Franklin key story is a Masonic occult parable. A key unlocking / locking the heavens. There is a lot of strange stuff with Franklin, Freemasons, and the stories told about them.
This technology has been on the books for so long and yet we haven’t or at some point decided not to use this, but think the applications it can be done like on a big ballon or a high rise building. The sky shouldn’t be the limit. Thanks for bringing this out!
Or natural mountains. The Grand Canyon has 1800 meter deep drops.
It's kinda useless. Makes for a good project, but it isn't viable for any real... use. You wouldn't be able to charge a phone, in example.
Solar panels or wind turbines are significantly more useful than this.
@@TheTattorack That's simply not true. If we spaced copper-lined towers at 50 meter heights across the desert floors here in California, we could generate cities' worth of energy. It's free, always available, and has nothing to do with wind. It has to do with ionization and electron-depleted grounds. Places with lots of water also generate massive amounts of ionization so these could be used in conjunction with dammed rivers.
It is calculated that a square meter of space can generate 400,000 volts between the Earth at sea level and the top of the Ionosphere. Do the maths.
@@TheRotnflesh
Reading a few sentences on a wiki article does not count as "doing the math".
Show me a scientific paper that proves the potential viability of atmospheric electricity extraction, then we'll talk.
@@TheTattorack The Ion Power Group in Florida does this very thing using carbon rods. They have a website.
Cool video! :-) I like how you did the video illustrations. Very nice work.
+electronicsNmore Thanks!
Any idea what happens if you make the earth or ground deeper? Or let's say near a deep source of water or a well? I did see somewhere that Tesla built his tower over lay lines or underground water. I was wondering if you can't get higher you could increase the difference by going deerper. Just curious. Thanks, great video.
Yes, having a better ground would have helped. That's why I was holding on to the ground wire with my bare hands, trying to make as much contact as I could. My body was acting as a ground. Connecting it to a big metal plate or wire mesh that was submerged in water would have given a better ground yet.
@@RimstarOrg Thanks for the reply. Great video
right ..a ground wire into a deep well would be excellent
Or sea bottom
@@RimstarOrg I was an electrician. We use 10 foot ground rods. We pound them in with a fence post driver. Just make sure that there are no utilities under ground.
Thanks for making this video! I know it was a lot of work. And thanks to your friends with the drone too!
Amazing job
It's inspiring to see you never give up, even after failed attempts. Thank You!
If you install 10 - 20 vertical aerial at reducing height and run it through a sequencing high voltage switching chamber and run it through a voltage transformer to earth the height voltage low current could be converted to low voltage high current . Resulting in endless free power. The switching is required to create a varying voltage so the transform will work.
Thank you!!!
Best channel on the face of this earth! Loved this!
+Mr Malibujunkies Thanks!
hurrah! success! nice work, and the animations are looking better and better :)
I didn't know this was a thing possible.years ago I had a theory on collecting electricity through atmospheric electricity and drawing lightening to strike a tower and possibly collecting the energy and storing it for future use.
Awesome awesome video thank you so much for all your super interesting and clear presentations and explanations! Iv been following and sharing for a while now! Cheers and best wishes!
Great job not giving up and doing all possible to make it work. The will to succeed certainly has its benefits. When the will of thought manifests into the actions of reality, the rewards are often undescribable. Thanks for taking us on your journey and keep the wonderful videos coming :)
Just a suggestion: Try running your copper wire from the ground up to the top of the CN tower (height of 553.33 metres) and see what results you get. That ought to be enough height to get an atmospheric voltage of just over 50kV. You should be able to run a pretty decent motor with that much potential.
Well, the thing is, buildings like that typically have grounding rods, so the entire building more or less remains at ground potential. That being said, the field lines become more and more compressed the higher up you get, so if you were to fly the drone just ~20 meters perhaps, or maybe a bit more, then you'd probably be able to get up in the tens of kilovolts.
Well done ...
Great invention ...
That´s why above 90 meters is banned.
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I do believe that as well and the fact that nasa actually did an experiment with that in lo earth orbit extending a line around ten miles before earth turbulence made them cut the line!
A lot of laws are designed to keep peoples powerless in ignorance.
Can’t have regular people making their own electricity for free, eh?
@Elkster Eidolon water has hydrogen in it and that's used for nukes should we ban it?
You're like a Canadian Tesla!! Awesome dude!! I'm sharing your video to all of my social media sites! Facebook, Twitter and reddit!! :D
+Micah Carr Thanks!
Wow great job! I've wanted to see this test. Excellent work! Inspiring. :)
What about using a balloon to loft the wire/spiky thing?
I was worried that the wire would break low down and then the balloon would carry the wire away and drape is across power lines somewhere.
@@RimstarOrg Oh! Dang, yeah good thinking!
So you're wasting more power getting hexa up there then you get back? Wouldn't a balloon (weather or other large types) work?
+WKDworks -- Was just thinking that. However, I think this is really best as a demonstration of atmospheric electricity, rather than a practical use of it.
+Ostsol Yeah, there's not much practical use other than as a very neat thing and a science demonstration and that's all it was intended as. I've been wanting to do it for at least two decades.
I have considered using a balloon but was always afraid of having a wire landing across some electrical system should the wire break near the bottom, like I showed happen in the video. I'm more confident now of how low the odds of that are, but there was no way I was going to do it before these tests.
+WKDworks I was thinking that too so better to use a kite then or several kites
+gekiryudojo The danger with kites is even worse than with balloons though. With a balloon you can fly it on a windless day and so there's little chance of the wire breaking. With a kite you need a windy day and so the chances of the wire breaking are worse. I recall as a kid flying a kit up to these altitudes and the string breaking near the bottom. The string ended up lying across treetops and branches. I grew up elsewhere in a small mining town surrounded by forests - not even any farmland.) That is unless I'm overly paranoid of wires landing on power lines and power systems.
+gekiryudojo That would work.
Looks like damn magic! Great experiment!)
That was fantastic! I certainly wouldn't have expected it to work but thankfully science was there to prove my intuition wrong.
Can you imagine the HP capability of the motor if magnetic bearings were used?
See a lot of similarity to the spires in "Victorian" (but likely much earlier) buildings - did these use atmospheric energy?
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This should be tested at the grand canyon. using fiber glass rods and the sides of the canyon to support the copper wire. Also include capacitors and batteries as part of the electrical. Maybe enough power to tricked charge the batteries?
Lightning conductors.
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120 meters? I'm gonna have to report this to the Canadian authorities just to be safe. Thanks for another great video!
+David S. You're gonna report nothing. If you do, I promise I will look for you, and I will find you. RimstarOrg is under Nedrotnyl's protection, whoever goes against him will go against Nedrotnyl.
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Look up use of Rodin coil to amplify electricity harnessed and do video on it please.
What if you find a 200 meter high building, tie the copper line at the top and let it extend to the ground in a 45 degree angle? Or 40 degree angle? The cupper line could be longer than 400 meter, and presumably generate more electricity.
The top of the building would be at ground potential, so it wouldn't work if you tie it to the top of the building. But you could hang a wire between two buildings. The middle of the wire would be at a different potential. See my video here where I explain more about how it work th-cam.com/video/qhXxSAv6rMg/w-d-xo.html
@@RimstarOrg Thank you for the comment. But I am not sure that the building in itself necessarily need to be equivalent to the ground potential -- if you insulate the connection between the building and the copper wire so there is no flow or current between them, then there should be no problem.
Oh, sorry,, I wasn't clear. Because the building is at ground potential, the air nearest it is also at ground potential and the potential (voltage) increases as you go farther from the building. So any sharp points near the building aren't at a high voltage. See the equipotential lines surrounding the building and tree that I show near the beginning of the video I linked to if that's not clearer.
try carbon fiber line tied to a balloon
Is this house Saint Elmo's Fire operate ?
Hmmm... yes, it does sound like the same thing as Saint Elmo's fire. It would be happening at the top of the wire where the sharp points are. Maybe if you did the experiment at night then you'd see a bluish corona around the sharp points.
@@RimstarOrg
knowing that there was something as the Baghdad battery thousands of years ago I will say the someone have figured out how to utilize sent Elms fire except what JPMorgan says is true " if I cannot put a meter on it I do not want it " , it's all about money and slavery .
I wonder if you can use a darlington transistor to make amps form the high voltage with a bifilar pancake coil like a joule thief to extract power from an atenna and a ground?
The problem becomes acquiring sufficient charge; the reason the voltage gradient is so high to begin with is because air is a relatively good insulator, so there are a certain amount of ions in a given place, and when you've neutralized those, which happens rather fast, you'd have to wait to collect the next batch, which depending on antenna design and implementation, as well as height and atmospheric conditions, might take a while.
On the other hand, if you've got a good antenna, get high enough up, and the conditions are good, you can probably achieve some pretty high amperage. I suppose the epitome of this would be to get a robust antenna high enough up to achieve a standing lightning bolt spark gap, but at that point you're going to have to start considering that a voltage might start to develop in the ground you're discharging from unless you take precautions.
@@hoon_sol The only luck I have had is two matching transforms with one coil 300,000mh or very high henry rating, I put a piezo element across it and get power out from a matching transformer.
you ever try using a tartarian style antenna
check out the levi strauss nederland building in amsterdam. it contains a dodecahedron antenna that is ornamental these days, but the sides of the building contain decorative spheres with spikes (resonator lamps). yes, all ornamental now, but highly likely they were functional as we suspect.. a tartarian antenna is doable, but it won't function correctly without a proper amplifier/resonator. i hate using the term "red mercury" because there's still no solid proof of the stuff (until someone produces it and gets in trouble with the CIA), but... it is highly likely that red mercury was key to the use of atmospheric energy, so that one didn't have to lift a wire hundreds of feet in the air.
interesting note though.. today's electronics are technically "dated/useless". an electromagnetic motor consumes way too much energy and is to be considered useless. a proper corona static motor could use up to 90% less electricity and function just as well or even better. what the chap in this video is using is a rudimentary or crude model of a corona motor. the real thing could certainly be used in a blender, fan, or car motor. the amount of electricity at 5ft (a car on rubber tires) with a proper antenna should indeed be able to run perfectly.
Thank you for the info!
Did you try to add some mercury onto the top of the wire lifted?
I remember watching something on TV years ago about a couple guys researching lightning. They launched small rockets with small thin spools of bare copper wire attached... They were getting lightning to strike on a clear day without a thunder cloud in sight!
wow....I guess there's no juice over well or pit, or top of body of water unfortunately
The ground rods can be very thin, and may be copper-plated steel to save money. It carries virtually zero current.
It could be only some #26 wire leading to an aluminum pan containing a saline solution, lying on the grass or sunk into a shallow pit.
wow, like a lightning motor huh? 😄 great stuff!
Can I use copper wire that is not insulated?
Can I make it using uninsulated copper wire?
If you mean the wire going into the air, I would think so since at a high voltage the thin enamel insulation on my wire doesn't make much difference. But make sure it doesn't touch anything, otherwise you'll have losses.
thank you very much
How much energy does the quad need to stay airborne ?
Sorry, I don't know. Certainly many orders of magnitude mote than we were producing but we did it just as a fun and challenging science experiment and project.
I thinking of 2 words right now.
"helium weather balloon"
OK, it turn out to be 3 words. My fault.
Can you imagine they make a farm to collect electricity. Where it’s like 1000 of these balloons. That would be a sight to see.
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Can you generate useful energy converting the static energy directly to DC ?
Well you can mix this with multiple setup and end up with something working(for more you scale), you use capacitor to boost it; converter to put it in ac if you want or just store it in battery as it come out in dc.
cool project
+Vasilis R Thanks.
It kind of reminds me about what they were talking about what the Sphinx with the pyramids being its own power source by that little Broad in the ground balancing on that water in that bouncing up and down created a electronic charge
I believe you can create a warp drive using the same technology by shoving it into a oval gate you can create a wormhole
I live next to high voltage towers. I wonder if this would work under the towers, without going up in the air? Has anyone tried?
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Fun experiment.
Thanks! I couldn't agree more. Both a fun challenge and just plain fun.
Really interesting, great post! Layman's suggestion/question: I wonder if a big helium filled foil balloon carrying that wire up could increase the gains of atmospheric electricity. Or even several big foil balloons evenly space along the wire? Final layman's suggestion/proposal: Using foil tape, attach MANY short lengths of foil ribbon evenly distributed all over the surface of the big helium filled foil balloon(s) attach to the wire and measure any gains. I'm done, thanks!
and on 1st wind pufff no more baloon
Maybe put the Ballon above the drone
Stabilizing the balloon would be the challenge
@@TomorrowTom1337 interesting 🤔 but wait.. if you use wires to stabilize it, then the balloon would be grounded via the wires no?
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Totally cool. If I remember the Tesla patent correctly, he used sheets of metal. One suspended in the air, the other buried in the ground. There was then an oscillator driving the HV onto a short secondary to deliver amps. In another paper, to do with attracting atmospheric electricity for the purposes of grounding lightning around/across buildings, he showed with math that using a hollow sphere was much more beneficial for gathering energy. So, how about a large balloon filled with Helium, covered in aluminium foil for the top, with a ground plate of the same capacitance? It doesn't have to be actually buried, but if it were in a conductive gel, such as a salt water/corn starch mix, to connect to the ground laterally, (??) then the current might go up. I don't remember what the galvanic opposite of aluminium is....I think it is lead. So, some lead flashing might be worth a try for the ground plane??
I've read that Tesla was making use of the photoelectric effect. This effect is a different one entirely and needs sharp points high up in the air. Check out my follow-up video about how it works th-cam.com/video/2rVdEhyMR6A/w-d-xo.html. I did once play with Tesla's method but didn't go very far with it.
Could you attach a transformer and multiple the energy?
Have you considered doing the Franklin way of obtaining various altitudes using a balloon?
Using a balloon worries me because if the wire breaks low down, as mine did, then a balloon would carry it away and drape the wire across power lines.
With high voltage and low current, you should be able to use a transformer to bring the voltage down to a useful level and the current up as well. Need a mechanical circuit break to cause alternating magnetic fueld though
A transformer needs AC power, but the motor could of course operate a switch, so we get slow reversals, which would also work.
@@G-ra-ha-mdoesn't need AC just needs field that builds and collapses. Simple off and on will do that. But as I said need a mechanical means of breakin and making the circuit
@@patrickrighton1275 what you describe IS alternating :)
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The Corona plasma discharge. You are correct, symptoms resemble radiation poisoning and also cv19.
This is not a virus
This is electric motor
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I have a video somewhere that a man on TH-cam flying a drone around that had no battery just a coil in resonance with the coil on the Tesla coil it had enough power to run the chopper, he did explain how it worked but not sure now something to do with running the motor with induction rather then pushing the motor with amps.
I would imagine that the atmospheric electric field changes daily. Did you try it on different days and different weather patterns? We used to have a bank of spark gap style lightning arrestors to protect some radio equipment. During thunderstorms, those things chattered constantly due to the high charge level in the atmosphere at the top of the antenna tower.
I didn't try it in different conditions. My opportunity to do it was very limited. But I did read the same thing, that it varied depending on humidity at least. During a storm, it's even it supposed to be the reverse since the bottoms of the clouds would be negative with respect to the ground.
Many years ago, some scientists stretched an insulated cable between two mountain tops. The result was a nearly steady stream of 15 foot long arcs emanating from the ends of the cable. I read about it in a book titled, "Light and Electricity in the Atmosphere ", by Hal Hellman. It 's been many years, over 40 actually. I was a teen back then.
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Wonder if thicker and alot more wire and wider receiver would do for the amperage you should get alot more current and increase the amps
The higher up in the atmosphere, the greater the voltage output? So thats why Wardenclyfe Tower that Tesla had built stood so high. Amazing free energy experiment! Have you tried to recreate utron regenerative coils?
Can the electricity be stored in a capacitor or a battery bank, then feed the motor ?
Certainly. It would have to be high voltage capacitors but that's not too difficult to arrange.
Does it work better on the sea? Salty water plus it can be go down underwater easly. Does it increase the current harvest ?
Seawater should provide a good ground, so yes. I also recall back when I was researching this something about certain kinds of ions being generated near the sea so that may help as well.
What happens if you bring a million wires into the sky? Does this technology allow it to stack in this way?
it is suspected (speculation yes) that pylons, those high tension power lines) are literally harvesting atmospheric electricity. these wires are suspended by glass insulators, run for miles into the countryside (us and uk) with almost no obstructions in sight. it is estimated to account for 80% of the us' power production, while conventional power plants only account for a mere 15% and 5% from alt energy (solar/wind/etc). don't forget, solar is connected to "feed" the grid, in much the same way a power plant also "feeds" the grid, while the grid itself is the main energy source through atmospheric energy harvest.
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Heya,
does it have to be insulated wire in order to work? Does it have to be enameled?
If the wire is very thin, 30 AWG for example, insulated is probably better so that you don't lose charge on the way down. Enameled wire is insulated so that will work.
So for power if you put up an antenna you can tap into the natural electric grid? Tesla spent his time doodling with lightning generators when all was needed was an antenna?
Could you electrify a large sphere with a coil underneath in order to step down the lightning to a more consumer available voltage ?
The wire I put up could be used as an antenna, probably a pretty good one. Put a crystal radio at the bottom and you'd probably get a good signal. Or tune into the 60Hz power grid an you'd pick that up instead -- though it'd be illegal so don't do it for too long.
"something went wrong with the hexacopters...and it ent to 120meters" Sure it was te programs fault. lol. Glad it had such a failure in the height limit prog. Awesome stuff.
LOL. Wink wink. Seriously though, that is what happened, or so my friend told me. Whatever happened, I'm glad it did after all that effort. It is possible it would have worked at a lower altitude if the problem was instead that the rotor was being stopped by the wingnut inside the frame. After all, it was when I accidentally knocked into it causing the rotor to shift over that it started working, so the altitude may have not been the issue. I'm glad you liked it, thanks.
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The more points of contact in the sky and the ground will produce more amplitude.
Same as when people make hydrogen and oxygen from electrolysis.
The bigger the surface area of contact the more juice you will get .
Be safe around electricity please
Dave
Try little metal spheres at the end of those six wires.
The idea being ... you want to collect electrons rather than emit them. Think of yourself as an electron in the air seeing that entrance, the point, you want to go there but as you move towards it you're being crowded out by other electrons all trying to go to that same spot. But like a stadium with a nice wide entrance, a sphere gives you more breathing room. Or just an aluminum foil disk on top of the wires, lots of surface area.
Good analogy. I do just that. If you look to where each set of three wires goes to, there's a brass ball.
@@RimstarOrg Actually I have to correct myself as I thought the air charges were negative so in this case, in those old smoke detectors is a mild radioactive source and might help electrons just off into the air. I don't have first hand experience with it but it struck me when my friend mentioned it, he developed the world's first automated heart defib unit and said he used that principle at the tips of the wings of a model airplane with wires out there, using the electrical potential in the air, that precisely even, for better control/turning. I don't exactly understand but think there might be something to that possibly worth trying here. The material he used may have been beyond alpha though.
How fast will Corona Electrostatic Motor will spin if you connect it to Van De Graaff Generator?
I didn't measure the speed but it spun quite fast as you can see in my first video about the motor here th-cam.com/video/hpvHRHs7o7I/w-d-xo.html. I got it going even fast with my HV power supplies in the making video here th-cam.com/video/9uEjXsX1F14/w-d-xo.html.
Did you try dig that wire?
what happens when it turns out you had a very long radio antenna hanging in the air and were picking up EMR from radio transmissions from everywhere and that was enuf power to make things work...
In this case that's not what's powering the motor since this was an electrostatic motor wouldn't turn if just powered by radio waves. But it would have been fun to hook up my crystal radio and see how loud the output would have been, probably pretty loud! Here's my video on the science behind atmospheric electricity th-cam.com/video/qhXxSAv6rMg/w-d-xo.html
would it work running the wire from the motor at its base up to the top of a near a high hill or even a cliff, instead of using a drone?
The problem with that is the hill or cliff are at ground potential, 0V, so that wouldn't help. What would work is stringing an insulated line from the top of one hill to the top of another hill, over a valley, and then having the wire go from the ground in the middle of the valley straight up to the line.
What can you power with this?
would a larger or a vertically arranged collector increase your voltage
+sketchyssk8shop The only way to increase voltage is to go higher. In fair weather, voltage increases approximately 100 volts per meter as you go up.
C'est possible de le laisser branché à un pilone ou une tour en métal
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The earth is a huge magnet, electrons from the atmosphere fall straight down, they do not flail about. Your copper wire could absorb more electrons if it were stretched above the earth horizontally; more wire = more electrons. Try it.
PS....Good video.
If it is close to ground it will have less potential
Its because the closer to ground the more of those icons are lost to random electrons from the ground
Tho if you can rise this line to higher altitude it will get more current like was done by the ion group
A simple line is still less efficient than a sharp point tho
If you were to collect falling electrons closer to the ground still need the wire going up into the sky to complete the circuit
If one were to delve deeper into this without a hexacopter, what would you suggest? a spire on top of a building? a pole? how about at a residence?
The problem with a building, a residence and a metal pole is that they're all grounded. You need the sharp points where you're collection the charge needs to be far from grounded objects. If you could string a wire made of non-electrically conductive material, such as a nylon fishing line, between two tall objects and then put a lot of sharp points somewhere along the middle of it and then hang a wire down from those sharp points then that might work. I show how a building is grounded in this video where I explain how this works th-cam.com/video/2rVdEhyMR6A/w-d-xo.html
What is the best cable to collect static energy from the atmosphere? Coaxial cable or other type? thanks for your answer
If you're talking about the cable connecting your antenna high up to your circuitry/devices on the ground, then you don't need anything special, just plain old copper write would do perfectly fine, but you can use a coaxial cable if you like.
Far more important is the design and implementation of the antenna itself, which should at the very least have as much surface area as possible (making a fractal antenna particularly good in this case).
Can the antenna pick up be mounted horizontal to the ground at about 3 feet or so?
Also..
Have the FAA changed the height regulations? It wasn't very long ago it was 400 feet, I set my height to 121 meters which is within our CAA regs here.
+Green Silver No, the antenna has to be vertical. It's making use of the fact that there's a potential difference vertically above ground, as well as some ions. The voltage increases 100 volts/meter as you go up. So at 120 meters the top of the wire was at 12,000 volts with respect to the ground,... well, until it starts conducting, and then much of the potential is down at the corona motor.
Regarding the FAA, I'm in Canada (Ottawa). But according to this www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/standards/general-recavi-uav-2265.htm?WT.mc_id=21zwi the limit is 90 meters here. It's labeled safety guidelines but the local drone flyers stick to it. Do you have a link to the CAA regs that have it as 121 meters? It'd be great if that is the case since that's where we had success.
Here's the CAA 400 foot regulations, article 166 clause C.
www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=1995&pageid=16012
I thought the FAA had pretty much the same regulations, soon the FAA will be requiring all U.S. UAV's to be registered to an owner. How this will affect Canada I don't know.
It's up to the operators to keep up with current regulations, they don't accept ignorance as a good enough excuse..
Fly safe!
+Green Silver Thanks. Hopefully Canada will catch up.
hello! it can to power small neon lamp?
Whoa even just the noise of the last spark you got was painful enough o.O
And don't let me think once a colleauge of mine was used to search for disfunctions of user terminations (I worked on a telco) by licking is thumb and putting it on the bolts: "shock, shock, shock... hey! I don't get shocked here: this is faulty!"
Anyway, I'm pretty curious to try and build something: your videos are pretty amazing (and at least a nice Franklin bell to use at our civil defense area to sound in case of thunderstorm forthcoming would be some nice ^_^ )
could you use this to light a fluorescent bulb? does that require highish current?
I can't say for sure, but I suspect that requires more current.
the amount of current achieved by the antenna is determined by the mass and surface area of the antenna itself. The voltage is determined by altitude. Increasing at 100v/m
Yup. I go through much of that in a follow-up video here th-cam.com/video/2rVdEhyMR6A/w-d-xo.html
Now if your ground rod was = to the length of antenna
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Would it increase the power if you used thicker copper?
It's possible that the resistance of the long wire is decreasing the available power and so, yes, a thicker copper wire might help. There's so little current here though that I wonder if it would make a difference.
how could you actually make a small corona motor a feasible power source? i dont see running 400 ft of wire into the air as a practical solution to finding power.
it started turning once you put the coil closer to the motor, is it really due to atmospheric current flowing or due to induced current from the coil?.or vice versa
How do you think the current gets into the coil?
Like very much your corona motor I was thinking a buck converter could also work?
I don't know if a buck converter would work. This is high voltage so you may need extra circuitry but I'm no expert on buck converters.
RimstarOrg it would have to be modified to use the highest possible voltage devices and I think it will work possibly it would need multi stage devices there are semiconductor devices which operate in the kilovolt range
If this was done on a mountain would that make a difference vs being done closer to sea level? Loved this entire video thanks
I don't know how well is scales as you go higher. The thinner atmosphere may mean fewer ions and so less current but I'm not sure. And thanks! I'm glad to hear you loved it. It was a challenging and fun project.
@@RimstarOrg thanks for the super speedy response!
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Is there a way to amp up the voltage and is it possible to fly the wire up using a weather balloon I sort of have an idea
To get a higher voltage you just have to go higher. A weather balloon would certainly work. I'd just be afraid of the wire breaking low down and the long wire falling across power lines somewhere in the city. Also, make sure it's secured well at the bottom end. But if you don't go in winds that are too strong then you should be fine. If your balloon has enough lift then you could even use a plastic coated wire which won't break.
I also wonder if I could just make more than on of them and link them up and have sort of a grid of towers all set at a fixed hight so I don't get into trouble with the air force
Absolutely. Just keep in mind that if the towers are made of metal or get wet then the towers act as ground and so you'd have to instead string plastic wires from tower to tower and have sharp points somewhere along the middle of that plastic wire and then a copper wire going down from that. There are a number of ways you could do it.
Could you use a non condutive pole in the ground to raise the wire? In placement of the hexacopter (due to not having one)
Yes. Keep in mind that it would also have to be high up in order to get the voltage.
@RimstarOrg what is the lowest (estimated) height that I could start experimenting with if not the 1 meter = (100v) mark?
And why is it do you think (or know) that the 1 meter (100v) doesn't seem to yield any discernable results? I understand that the amps really really low, but surely a 100 volts would be detectable/measured in some capacity, no?
You can measure it with an electrometer. Luckily, Caltech has generously put Feynman's lectures online www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html and if you scroll down to the 3rd paragraph, the one that begins, "How can we measure...", you'll see a suggested experiment without having to lift a wire high up.
@RimstarOrg without raising a wire... I'm intrigued! And will sure be delving into that. But in the meantime, do you have a recommendation of pole length to start with? The shortest you'd suggest that is..
I haven't tried it with an electrometer so I don't have a recommendation for pole height. Another approach is to suspend a wire between two well separated, tall poles. Here's a demonstration by Lasersaber of that idea but without the poles th-cam.com/video/3EG-zjqs9xM/w-d-xo.html
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Can you do a video about how change Voltage into Amperes?
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I'm sorry if I missed a comment/reply: have you used this to measure static in a thunderstorm? I have a theory I want to try out but have not yet found a way to accurately measure electrical atmospheric strength in various positions in a thunderstorm. Thanks! Cool vid and new ideas!
Nope, I'm not that crazy! :-) I haven't tested this in anything near to storm conditions.
@@RimstarOrg hey, thanks for getting back to me so quickly. If you hear of anything let me know and i will as well . I'll call you "ben franklin" :-D
You have to replace those metal pins with magnets for it to produce actual amperage. Look up the atmospheric electricity generator patent by Roy Meyers.
That doesn't really make sense; in any application for this you will be connecting your antenna to ground through whatever it is that you're doing, so the ions of the air will be attracted to those pins as if they were magnets anyway in this case.
wow plenty of hard work and attempts made, what can we infer from this? the six pointed needles helped improve the setup, the higher the distance the better it gets, the corona motor should have been built and tested on the ground with a spark gap emitter before the real flight attempt?
+fidel catsro I just guessed that the six pointed needle would be better than the two pointed needle given how it works - I don't know that for fact. It was out final flight that finally had success and since we get that success above the height limit, we can't do further testing, though we might do more testing at the limit since weather conditions are a factor. We thought about the spark gap test but we have batteries for only 4 attempts per trip out so went with the corona motor directly. Anyway, winter's starting here so more testing will have to wait until the spring.
Wow, that's pretty tenacious of you, busting through three failures in a row. That was a great demonstration- I guess 1% of the people will miss the thumbs up and accidentally click the thumbs down. (It's happened to me before also as well as reporting videos. Sometimes the settings are just too hair-trigger.)
I'm surprised it would give you such a biting shock, but barely turn the motor, when you could run a same-size motor with a AAA battery. For it to continually have that much shock (as opposed to pulsing) seems like it ought to have a lot more energy. Maybe it's because the parts are very large and spaced apart, whereas an electric motor is able to be tiny and it has tiny windings and connections because of its lower voltage, giving it a lot more leverage and immediacy of action.
I wonder if it would be safe to do it during a storm? On one hand, it might help discharge and relieve some of the charge instead of allowing it to continue building up. But on the other hand, it might accommodate the charge by causing the atoms in the air to be attracted to the wire and clump together, and providing a physical ladder for the charge to descend along.
+gilbet Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. I don't think the shocks would be continuous; the voltage would take a little time to build up between each shock. However, I didn't test that, for obvious reasons :).
RimstarOrg Oh, do you think it discharges and recharges every 1/8 turn?
+gilbet I don't know how fast the recharge is. I can't judge it on the fact that the cylinder keeps moving since the cylinder moves pretty easily and so doesn't need a lot of momentum to rotate for a while.