Building a Generator

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  • @Gh0sb0ss
    @Gh0sb0ss ปีที่แล้ว +4075

    This actually gives people a very easy way of physically feeling how much power it takes to run different types of circuits, I think it would be a cool idea for a science fair or something

    • @thebirchwoodtree
      @thebirchwoodtree ปีที่แล้ว +234

      reminds me of a science museum that had a device with a hand crank and would let you try and power old lightbulbs vs new led bulbs and see how it's easier to power led bulbs

    • @KingJellyfishII
      @KingJellyfishII ปีที่แล้ว +50

      pretty sure they have something like this in the glasgow science museum

    • @kiburebuc
      @kiburebuc ปีที่แล้ว +39

      ​​​@@thebirchwoodtreeSame at the Los Angeles Science Center, but it's a stationary bike there. There are, iirc, 5 incandescent light bulbs and 5 LED bulbs of the same light output that you can switch between powering.

    • @DiverseGreen-Anon
      @DiverseGreen-Anon ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@thebirchwoodtree I saw this the first time when I was a kid and visited the "Abrafaxe Extavium" in germany. They had a bike with a generator and besides different light bulbs (incandescent, "Neon" (energy saving), LED etc.) they also had a toaster... After pushing the lever down the bike felt like it instantly slammed the brakes as it is actually quite a lot of energy to only keep the magnet engaged, nevermind feeding the heating coils with "only" ~600w xD. They had a lot of devices plugged into that bike for kids and parents to try out. I only remember these and a fan though

    • @ehhhhhhhhhh
      @ehhhhhhhhhh ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Many exercise bikes include this as a feature. They have watt readouts and you can feel how much a particular wattage is with your legs.

  • @Acamperfull
    @Acamperfull ปีที่แล้ว +773

    Once the supercaps are charged you can use them to start a car with a flat battery. This way you can (hand) crank start a modern car engine!

    • @bob2859
      @bob2859 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      This is hilarious. I did the math and it looks like 100F is about right. That dragster bank is 100F, but I'm not sure about its voltage rating or ESR.
      There's also the old Electroboom video "Cranking a Car with Super Capacitors (Supercap)"

    • @jasonharrison25
      @jasonharrison25 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      I have a bank of 6x 3000f supercapacitors in place of my car battery in my TDI. Starts very well if fully charged. I have a 5w solar panel on the roof and charge controller to keep it topped off if I'm not driving it.
      6x in series is 500f. I don't recommend anything less after using it for about 10 years now. They will only give you one or two tries before the voltage is too low to start the engine. Another benefit is they charge up in seconds. So 10 seconds or so it's charged enough to reset the engine. Would be excellent for delivery vehicle, postal service, etc that have a lot of stops and starts.
      The few times I've had to jump it or put a charger on it to charge it back up took only q few minutes to be fully charged. A jump is only 10 seconds like when the engine is running. The cheaper jumper cables get hot with the amount of current running through them. I've also been able to jump start other larger vehicles and pickups with my car and a good set of cables. People are always scratching their head confused when they see it

    • @Let_the_nonsense_blaze.
      @Let_the_nonsense_blaze. ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thought of the same thing. Also, I've got a few old tractors where handcranck+supercap could be a very usable solution.

    • @Parker-di7ef
      @Parker-di7ef ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@jasonharrison25I’d love to see a video on this! I never heard of anyone doing that!

    • @luppano
      @luppano ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Or charge the phone. Crank hard a few minutes, and let the capacitors charge the phone for longer at lower power.

  • @_Matyro_
    @_Matyro_ ปีที่แล้ว +1660

    You should move to active rectifier instead of passive diode one. At these low voltages, you lose most of your power in the diodes at the moment.
    For ultra low drop diodes you will lose 0.2V per Diode which is around 10% for your voltages, for classic diodes (which you seem to be using) its 0.7V per diode resulting in quite a bit of wasted energy.

    • @nathansmith7153
      @nathansmith7153 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      FERD diodes are about the same as a synchronous rectifier

    • @bgdwiepp
      @bgdwiepp ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Sm74611

    • @oliverer3
      @oliverer3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      ​​@@manitoba-op4jxThen you're back to needing brushes. Not to mention that they're quite inefficient.

    • @fishyerik
      @fishyerik ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Oh, how surprised I would be if it turned out Tom wasn't aware about diode voltage dropout already.
      As the loss depends on the voltage he can also reduce losses by creating a higher voltage, and step it down afterwards, if necessary. Higher voltage and lower amps at a given power reduce losses in wires too.

    • @BillyNoMates1974
      @BillyNoMates1974 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      4 Schotky Diodes would do the same job in a ractifier layout. the same 0.2v drop across each diode.
      their only downside is that they are hard to get hold of in higher amperage but can be done.
      Plus add a bank of Zener Diodes in parallel to handle the current when regulating back down to the higher limit voltage.
      say a bank of 12.1V zeners at 5 watts each

  • @EvGamerBETA
    @EvGamerBETA 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

    This feels very satisfying, that you can build something that would convert raw mechanical power into something that could interface with complex electronics. It's like holding a manifestation of the civilization at your desk

    • @LuxAuroraWinery
      @LuxAuroraWinery 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Now all we need is a power inverter and some batteries and we just powered a neighborhood .❤
      I wonder if I could get the 3D plans to this!

    • @over7532
      @over7532 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's in the description! 👍

  • @renson2160
    @renson2160 ปีที่แล้ว +372

    It's amazing how 4 chapters worth of topics of physics electronics have been covered in a single generator building video

    • @haidara77
      @haidara77 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Welcome to real life man!

  • @simiken1234
    @simiken1234 ปีที่แล้ว +371

    Its super cool how electrical resistance turns to physical resistance with this thing. Would be a great learning tool for kids!

    • @markoap91
      @markoap91 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      It's not really electrical resistance turning into physical resistance, it's electrical power turning into physical resistance. The more power draw you have the harder it is to turn. But I agree it would be a great learning tool for kids. This is actually true for any generator and is a part of the law of conservation of energy and not only kids but most people are not aware that generators are harder to turn the more power draw you have from them.

    • @megaman1997ful
      @megaman1997ful ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@markoap91 what is the reason for the power draw causing more resistance?

    • @Kycilak
      @Kycilak ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@megaman1997ful Because you cannot create energy out of nothing. The speed of turning the generator gives the voltage, but you may draw different current at the same voltage, meaning it has to be possible to generate different amounts of power using the same crank speed. The only things, that affect the power generated, is the speed and the force (alternatively the torque and angular velocity), and with constant speed, the only thing that may change is the force. Hence higher power draw causes the need for more force.
      As per the mechanics this is caused because the current flowing through the generator coils produces magnetic fields that oppose the change caused by the rotation of the magnets in rotor. When no power is drawn, no current flows, and there is no resistance (ideally). When the power draw increases, the current rises and the magnetic fields opposing rotation are stronger, hence one has to crank against more resistance.

    • @megaman1997ful
      @megaman1997ful ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Kycilak Thankyou for the detailed response! thats completely cleared up the confusion for me :D

    • @markoap91
      @markoap91 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@megaman1997ful @Kycilak covered everything quite well. Nothing I can add to that.

  • @jana171
    @jana171 ปีที่แล้ว +732

    Absolutely LOVE this project Tim ! Attach a propellor, and you have a windmill, add a battery, and you go offgrid camping with full 12V electricity available. Measure available Kw output and explain calculations for windings, batteries, magnets and such, and there's a scientific story to be told too. This could take you in every direction you'd please 🙂

    • @pauls5745
      @pauls5745 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Sure you can. The only difficulties are in storing enough until next charging. excellent project!

    • @flexairz
      @flexairz ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That's why wind power has failed massively. It's intermittent and not demand driven. Nice for small projects but not for large scale applications.

    • @jana171
      @jana171 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flexairz 🤡

    • @jarateman6427
      @jarateman6427 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@flexairz Water works tho u just need flowing water. Instead of the handcrank u could add on a waterwheel.

    • @KitsuneKimmy
      @KitsuneKimmy ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@jarateman6427 True, but it takes quite a bit of water to store energy using gravity. Unfortunately, the amount of cranking on a generator like this that would be needed for practical use would wear your arm out pretty fast! Might be better to hook it up to an exercise bike, though you would still get pretty tired.

  • @sgtbrown4273
    @sgtbrown4273 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Yes, I agree, you need a passive diode and definitely hook a super capacitor to it. Charge it for a few minutes and then it will charge your phone. That way you don't have to keep cranking continuously. Awesome project is always.😊

    • @dragoscoco2173
      @dragoscoco2173 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Well considering a standard phone battery has enough energy to lift a 2tone car 1 meter off the ground, you will need to crank that a while.

    • @Dollarwine
      @Dollarwine ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@dragoscoco2173so you're saying all I need is several dozen pulleys...

    • @dragoscoco2173
      @dragoscoco2173 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Dollarwine With great leverage comes great amount of pull.
      Energy=Force x distance.
      The more you skimp out on the use of force the more distance you need to travel to produce said energy.
      2tonnes lifting at 1m height.
      Or 100kg at 20m.
      Or 2 kg at 1km.
      Take your pick.

    • @TheJohnreeves
      @TheJohnreeves ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@dragoscoco2173 That's not much energy. A car jack can easily lift the car in a few seconds. It's a car jack with a much higher "gear ratio". He's limited by the 1 amp output of the USB board he was using which is why it will take the amount of time his phone said it would take (a little over an hour). Maybe with a high power USB board so it can fast charge, but even that would probably take 20 minutes or more. I can lift a car in 20 minutes easy with the right leverage. Use a bicycle to power it instead and I can output enough energy to charge the phone in a couple minutes (but the phone would still need 20 or whatever it ends up being).

    • @dragoscoco2173
      @dragoscoco2173 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@TheJohnreeves I totally agree that is not much for a human to pull off. It is roughly the equivalent energy of me climbing a 6th of 7th story building with my own weight. I could do it in 2 minutes casually. Yet that crank system is not geared or levered for such a feat in 2 minutes.
      What I tried to imply is just the amount of hand cranking necessary for a standard size phone charging.

  • @zescoot2590
    @zescoot2590 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    Seeing something like this in action really makes understanding electricity way easier than just some formulas

  • @ArktinenPeikko
    @ArktinenPeikko ปีที่แล้ว +17

    My daughter was just asking a few days ago about how electricity is made. This should be clear enough way to show and tell. Might even print a project for us to build out of this. Thanks for providing the link to the files.

  • @paulmelois
    @paulmelois ปีที่แล้ว +86

    I have an old Singer sewing machine stand that I've always wanted to repurpose as a manual charging desk; now I've got all the R&D already done thanks to you! Awesome job, thanks a lot

  • @BernardSandler
    @BernardSandler ปีที่แล้ว +99

    This was fascinating. When it comes down to it, a generator/motor isn't that complicated. Always good to see that demonstrated.

    • @AlexusMaximusDE
      @AlexusMaximusDE ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I mean yeah.. these days we have access to materials and methods of manufacturing for home users which far exceed the capabilities and materials early specialists had access to.

    • @NandR
      @NandR ปีที่แล้ว +7

      My favorite daydream is going back to like 1200 AD and creating a generator. They had metallurgy. Copper and iron and magnets. Energy storage would be harder but running power from a water mill wouldn't be impossible. But using that power would be limited. Lights would be basically impossible to make. Motors would be relatively easy. Using it for heating could work.

    • @AlexusMaximusDE
      @AlexusMaximusDE ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NandR If you can build a generator, you can figure out how to make a motor and some gears. If you can make a motor and some gears, you can make a lathe. If you can make a lathe, you can make a vacuum pump. If you can make a vacuum pump you can do a low friction flywheel and lightbulbs. If you can do that, you can be burned for witchcraft.

    • @dragoscoco2173
      @dragoscoco2173 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlexusMaximusDE The Energy equation implies that the early specialists could build this easily just heavier.
      We had at some point in time hand cranked army phones.

    • @AlexusMaximusDE
      @AlexusMaximusDE ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dragoscoco2173 So you are saying they could have built a much worse version with much more effort because they had access to worse materials and technologies. Cool.

  • @jerremm
    @jerremm ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Potential upgrades, have a steel plate on either end of the rotor so the magnets have a low reluctance path and you'd have more magnetic flux. (or the same with less magnets) Also a freewheeling clutch thing for if you stop cranking and the rotor can spin freely.

    • @ransombot
      @ransombot ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Taking transformer plates and shoving them in the center of the coils would probably be better, for less over all weight. Like doubling the output power better. Would also be interesting to see ferrofluid in the center. More used in speakers as a lube for the driver & a flux enhancer but it should work there too.

    • @BronzSoldier
      @BronzSoldier ปีที่แล้ว

      What happens if you put coils on both sides of the plates that holds the magnets? I mean the parts where the magnets are should be open on the both sides and then you put coils on both sides of it. What would happen?

    • @ransombot
      @ransombot ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have the problem of transferring power when you do that. Tend to ark and cause corrosion having you wires stationary makes it much easier. Unless you are just talking about making a stacking generator. He hints at that in the video when he talks about the series parallel configuration. You'd get more amp/volts depending on the configuration. The ends though waste magnetic field if it's not directed back in with some ferromagnetic material, or a Halbach array Generally want your ends to redirect the field back in where you are capturing the work. That said it's harder to deign and heavier so where weight is an issue you don't always or to the same degree.
      Worth noting that the coils when this happens generate heat, copper / aluminum are diamagnetic and appose the field around generating the power. More work More heat more coils even more heat. You'd run a good risk of a PLA generator melting without regulating that extra current or adding in thermal correction with airflow or convection. Not so bad with a hand crank but a wind or motor driven one would Definity suffer a meltdown. Much like an induction heater.

    • @markusw9455
      @markusw9455 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The low reluctance path needs to be laminated otherwise he will get huge eddy currents. Perpendicular to the direction of magnetic flux, a bit like arches. Maybe he will get away on bother outer sides with only a flat plate, since the field of the magnets is much more dominant compared to the induced field of the stator. Main benefit will be if he can provide a low reluctance path for the stator coils (filling coil with lamination). Big benefit with the axial machine is, theses paths are already short by design (different as in radial flux machines)

  • @nerddwarf
    @nerddwarf 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +348

    "Don't know if I could spin it for an hour and 13 minutes"
    Just 3D print a small water-wheel, attach it to the handcrank, and mount the generator by a river.

    • @Ryuko15
      @Ryuko15 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      It would be great to have a bicycle to generate electricity for a gym

    • @barookQ8
      @barookQ8 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      3D printing a hydroelectric dam

    • @deskmat9874
      @deskmat9874 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@Ryuko15 I thought some gym machines actually turn themselves on by you beginning to use it, and then it converts that energy you used and powers on the display for the machine

    • @brett_norris
      @brett_norris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@deskmat9874 I have an exercise bike at home that does exactly that!

    • @TotalDec
      @TotalDec 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I've always wanted one of these pushes by fan blades. Set it outside during a high wind time, and have charged batteries for free.

  • @ashurean
    @ashurean ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm a big fan of the pedal-type generators. Those are something I could see actually being useful in an emergency. They're a bit bigger, but if you lose power, it's easier to charge up a battery bank with your legs.

  • @jaydeep-p
    @jaydeep-p ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Hand cranks get hard after some time but a foot pedal like those on sewing machines is significantly easier to turn for a long time.

    • @GeomancerHT
      @GeomancerHT ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hamsters jay, hamsters!

    • @markifi
      @markifi ปีที่แล้ว +9

      there's so much power in the legs. 100-200 watts easy, for hours, even more power for a lot of people

    • @laflador_7691
      @laflador_7691 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      attach it to your bike and you will be able to charge your phone during travels

    • @greasher926
      @greasher926 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I was thinking the same thing, you could easily retrofit a spinning wheel (for spinning thread).

  • @camelmer02
    @camelmer02 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    You have been the only person to ever successfully explain a rectifier to me. Thank you

    • @TimpBizkit
      @TimpBizkit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like a dual action flap valve box bellows for electricity.

  • @chipcode5538
    @chipcode5538 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I think you can increase the efficiency by changing the coil design. As far as I know the part off the coil that is perpendicular to the changing magnetic field contributes the most to the output. The rest is just added resistance. Also you can increase the power of the magnetic field by adding a backing metal or hallbach configuration of the magnets.

    • @simonlinser8286
      @simonlinser8286 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Look at hard drive motor, coils shaped like wedges with rounded corners. Why? What you just said about the impedance reluctance resistance etc

    • @markusw9455
      @markusw9455 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This type of motor works well, it is called an axial motor. Backplate would be nice, but only if laminated perpendicular to flux direction. This would mean like an arch of bricks between each coil. Winding layout should be 3 coils for each pair of magnet (easiest, classical synchronous machine). And the interconnection should be diffenent. It sure works with all coils in line. But he gets big circular currents driven by voltage differences due to the coils seeing different fields - also depending on winding direction of the coils (clockwise, ccw).

  • @panther105
    @panther105 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is brilliant. From some experience with hand cranked tools, having a little more weight to offset the crank handle can help smoothen the power input from your hands and help with the overall balance of the whole apparatus.

  • @qerku_5640
    @qerku_5640 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your explanation of a full bridge rectifier is the first one that I was able to understand! Thanks

  • @JackAllpikeMusic
    @JackAllpikeMusic ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I'd love to see a series of iteration upon this just like your planes - where you try and design better and better generators, finding what works best/worst and create the most powerful hand powered generator you can while keeping it reasonably easy to use and maintain.

  • @jtruant
    @jtruant ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Favorite content creator on TH-cam. I’m a total electronics novice and feel like I come away with a much better intuition from your videos than I would from other types of learning. Definitely want to print this one!

  • @Bein_Ian
    @Bein_Ian ปีที่แล้ว +11

    After watching many electroboom videos I never could understand what a full bridge rectifier was, but your video made it seem so simple. I love electronics but can't wrap my head around them a lot. Thanks for the video!

  • @crunchymilkentmt6351
    @crunchymilkentmt6351 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    These were my absolute favourites when we went over them in 9th grade!!!

  • @ilanlee3025
    @ilanlee3025 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No idea why this was recommended to me but very happy it was. Best video I have ever seen explaining and showing the conversion and storage of electricity. Subscribed!

  • @joshua3291
    @joshua3291 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Cool video Tom, maybe you could make a stationary bike where the wheel charges through the same method, would be a lot less tiring than hand cranking

  • @michroz
    @michroz ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Another idea for improvement is to put 2 thick steel discs on the outside of your magnetic rotors. I believe this would increase the magnetic field by containing it within the steel discs. Also this could somewhat increase the fly-wheel effect. Maybe the coils also could be wound around (or in-between) the steel cores to even better direct and improve the magnetic field.

    • @bosstowndynamics5488
      @bosstowndynamics5488 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      High performance axial flux motors generally use either 2 sets of coils, one on each side of the magnet rotor, or 2 sets of magnets, either side of the coil stator, to maximise flux through the coils per unit weight. Obviously this doesn't need to be as optimised weight wise but I suspect a twin magnet setup would be better for increased flux density over trying to direct the field with steel

  • @Maarrk
    @Maarrk ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Cool project, if I may add a safety concern is that you'd really prefer to use *female* XT60 connector on your generator.
    As is, the pins can be shorted easily by anything conductive, and that's why power sources should have female terminals - look at your batteries with the same XT60 plug, or even electrical sockets in the wall.
    Probably not an issue for this one, but it's a good habit to have 👍

    • @TimStation
      @TimStation  ปีที่แล้ว +123

      Yes, that's correct. However, I wired it this way because it doesn't matter if the generator short circuits (the crank resistance just goes up). But if I charge a battery or capacitor, I don't want the wrong connector on them as that short would be far worse.

    • @Duamerthrax
      @Duamerthrax ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@TimStation There's also 15 Amp Anderson Powerpole Connectors, which are genderless and protected on both ends. Regardless, you're right that the battery bank end is the one you need to worry about.

    • @jayw900
      @jayw900 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not actually a concern in this use case.

    • @jonathanodude6660
      @jonathanodude6660 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      shorting a hand cranked generator...??

    • @Raccy-theftine-offical
      @Raccy-theftine-offical ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm no electricity nerd so I have no idea what you mean by female-

  • @GroovyGears69
    @GroovyGears69 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am currently printing out the parts and have the extra hardware hopefully coming in this weekend. Thank you Tom for your wonderful content. Ill post an update when i finish mine and share my results

  • @ToddyPoddy-fy5dc
    @ToddyPoddy-fy5dc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Do you have a hamster

    • @beaneater6932
      @beaneater6932 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      i ate mine 🙂

  • @mennims
    @mennims ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Tim, been watching you for over half a decade. Your generator came out beautifully. It looks amazing, seems to operate smoothly and work eficiently enough for it to have some practical use. It's great to see you do more electronics as well!
    Something I struggled with in electronics was understanding voltage and current and it's relation to watts and using the "correct" terms that other electrically experienced people will understand. I'd like to share a concept that works for me.
    Power = RPM x Torque
    Power = Voltage x Current
    I see RPM as Voltage, current as torque.
    When I look at the charged storage in your generator I imagine a metal flywheel spinning relatively slowly (low voltage) but with a lot of mass (available current). When that flywheel is charged, your brain may not think "what do I do with all this speed" (or volts), you may think of it in terms of power instead.

  • @strawman9410
    @strawman9410 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Use the capacitor bank to a step down converter to charge a phone etc then once you charge the bank you won't need to keep cranking the handle.
    Mine powers LEDs for upto 45 minutes after 10 minutes of cranking.
    Thanks for sharing. Yours gives more power output than mine. 👍🇬🇧

  • @SapioiT
    @SapioiT ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Next thing to do would be to get a bicycle, add a stand on both sides so you can pedal with the back wheel in the air, and then connect it to the pedals. Or maybe even make a custom bicycle pedal assembly to be able to charge a phone while cycling, regardless of whether stationary or not.

    • @danthanhhuynhpham685
      @danthanhhuynhpham685 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Im thinking more of using the motion of a rocking chair to run it
      So you can rest and charge at the same time

    • @skullmax3595
      @skullmax3595 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@danthanhhuynhpham685 itd be impractical and i think if you wanna rest, a windmill type of energy generator would be best. The bicycle idea would work better ig.

    • @slurricrasher9923
      @slurricrasher9923 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@danthanhhuynhpham685 A simple setup similar to this that could attach to either a spinning wheel like a bike or a dual pedal rocker for a chair would be one of the best camping accessory inventions ever.

    • @WOLFPACKED
      @WOLFPACKED 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      oh i just made a comment about the kickr core - a bike smart trainer system that i think could be modded for this purpose exactly

  • @khaledadams4329
    @khaledadams4329 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is so interesting to hear you say how much physical resistance it creates with a load. I want to try printing one of these now.
    Thanks for sharing!

  • @googooboyy
    @googooboyy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Why hasn't anyone created bikes with these generators for home-use? That way people can get cardiovascular exercises and charge batteries up too! Forget Peloton! Welcome, Electron!

    • @GroovyGears69
      @GroovyGears69 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm going to give it a try!

    • @olcuqap1789
      @olcuqap1789 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      they do

    • @ProfessionalGasLighting
      @ProfessionalGasLighting 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      You don’t generate a lot of electricity unfortunately, even at the high end of efficiency and at the high end of human ability… there are TH-camrs that have done this and have shown the amperage… alternatively, if you have any fan, you can spin it and measure the outlet cord with a multimeter and you will get a very tiny amount of electricity. Most a/c motors are also a/c generators because of the law of enthalpy or something like that

    • @richhagenchicago
      @richhagenchicago 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People have built them. There were a few on the Fieldlines forum a number of years back.

    • @RehaanPlayz0306
      @RehaanPlayz0306 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There’s something like that in my city named ‘SmartBike’. They are bikes you can rent for 1 whole day and they have battery packs that are charged by your pedalling.

  • @skrymerU
    @skrymerU ปีที่แล้ว +51

    That was fun. Would have been interesting to see how many amps it could generate and calculate the power.

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal ปีที่แล้ว +1

      maybe 20W

    • @TimStation
      @TimStation  ปีที่แล้ว +29

      This video was meant to be a short build/info video for an upcoming video on my main channel. However, it's gained far more interest than I expected, so I'll be making a follow-up soon!

    • @specialneedsmolester1957
      @specialneedsmolester1957 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TimStationmake it into a mini wind turbine

    • @corpuschristihq4370
      @corpuschristihq4370 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TimStation Could you also please explain more in detail how you connect coils, diodes, capacitors, and mini digital voltometer? Any electronic schematic would be greatly appreciate.

    • @aloismapanzure
      @aloismapanzure 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TimStation Hi Tim, do you help with 3D printing prototypes?

  • @marsrover001
    @marsrover001 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hand crank rail gun time? It only makes sense. The fallout 3 fans require it.

  • @elliot6758
    @elliot6758 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    hey tom! i built something like this just the other day, using a nema34 stepper motor. stepper motors are great for low rpm high voltage generators as that is how they're designed to operate

  • @targetdreamer257
    @targetdreamer257 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant! It is a compact and elegant piece of equipment.
    That being said just a few minor design tweaks and you’re golden.
    1. Broaden the base of it. That way screw holes can be integrated into it so as to be mountable.
    2A. Alter the cranking part. Like having it so two hands can be use.
    2B. Or Keep the two crank design so the hand cranks can be swapped out for foot pedals.
    2C. You could even change it up so it can be rigged up so the stator can be cranked by a gravity battery. Suspend some weight in the air and connect that weight to the generator by s long cable.

  • @artpam
    @artpam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So interesting to see how you apply what you've learned in the past to new projects. Thanks for the 3D files, this will be a fun (and useful) project.

  • @CoreyKearney
    @CoreyKearney ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I would add a clutch and flywheel to smooth out the cranking effort. And some Caps so you can crank around 15v to store that up. Cutting the cranking time by 2/3.

  • @londonnight937
    @londonnight937 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Tom, the only real way to know how much your generator produces is to get a maximum power point tracker and a suitable load for it. The load impedance must match perfectly the impedance of your generator, at which point you measure the power dissipated on the load, and that's your generator rating, for a certain RPM of the generator. Would be cool if in the next video you would do that, because I'm quite curious how much a hand cranked generator will make.

    • @veryInteresting_
      @veryInteresting_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If I had to guess it would be in single digit watts

  • @B0A2
    @B0A2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Would love to see future iterations of this project perhaps on a bike

  • @phazephlux3260
    @phazephlux3260 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I built this and it works amazingly after a little bit of tweaking.
    It outputs 38 V at max.And about fourteen volts at an average spin

  • @Mr.ky89
    @Mr.ky89 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The air core hand crank generator is very wonderful. Thank you for sharing with the audience

  • @RandomBogey
    @RandomBogey ปีที่แล้ว +6

    8:34 there’s a calibration pot/screw on the back of the blue led volt meter to dial in the voltage readout

    • @Sembazuru
      @Sembazuru ปีที่แล้ว

      For what he is doing the readout is probably "close enough". But, yeah. Most decent voltage readouts like that have a small calibration pot for when it matters.

  • @adamjc86
    @adamjc86 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fantastic stuff Tim, this kind of tangible, real world, but simple project seems like a great way to get people into electronics

  • @yungu1776
    @yungu1776 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A nice piece of work! It would be great if you show us the actual usable peak current output off this generator.

  • @heikoschwertner1050
    @heikoschwertner1050 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, from Switzerland for this video. Clear and easy to understand. I try to build this modell with my 3D printer.

  • @ankiesiii
    @ankiesiii ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive been on youtube since 2005, and this was probably coolest video ive ever seen.

  • @gshingles
    @gshingles ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Very nice design. I don't know if you've seen Robert Murray Smith's channel, but he uses serpentine coils which seem like a lot less work to make, to me. :)

    • @paradiselost9946
      @paradiselost9946 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      serpentine coils. ahhhh, stupidity at its finest!
      go look into "jacobs law".
      a serpentine coil, by its very nature of construction, limits the amount of power that can be delivered to a load, and instead forms a load itself, and WASTES power as heat in its own resistance.
      go back to the demonstration of eddy currents, lenz law... dropping a magnet in a pipe. start THINKING about it. what if you cut the pipe? what if its a coil? what if theres a resistor across the cut you made? across the coil? what happens to the magnet? to the lenz reactions aka eddy currents? what is current, what is voltage, anyway? when you start to get an idea of that, you might see these videos for what they really are. trash. they all do the same thing and fail to show anything at all of any merit, and they all just go over the same basic BS... no more.
      yknow whats sad? that youtube proliferates all these half baked ideas based on miseducation and lack of knowledge on basic fundamental principles... this video was another demonstration of how not to do things, half understood principles, with no attempt to apply well over a century of acquired human knowledge and experience.
      "just wave magnets (of unknown strength? with no thought of reluctance or the most efficient magnetic circuit?) past some wires (of no given size, length, resistance) wound into coils (of no known inductance or turns) and generate electricity! wow! its magic! and and and... its axial flux!!!! and i used a full bridge rectifier, and made yet another explanation of how a rectifier works... like there arent enough already... and i made sure i had an animation or two..."
      whatever. i guess im just a troll... :D

    • @Ed.R
      @Ed.R ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think has channel is best avoided, its full of BS as he's only into TH-cam for the views and money.

    • @strawman9410
      @strawman9410 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An even easier build and more powerful is Robert Murray Smith thunderbolt generator. Think he got 150V out of it. Really impressive.
      Just went round the bolts in a big circle. Easier than his serpentine. With offset magnets to reduce the drag.

    • @paradiselost9946
      @paradiselost9946 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@strawman9410 150v into what LOAD? what resistance? how many amps? how many WATTS?
      and how much power did it take to SPIN?
      how EFFICIENT was it?
      did he talk about that? did he mention that? did he test that?
      150V means nothing.
      theres a potential difference of 150v or so from my head to my feet, atmospheric electricity. doesnt do much, does it?

    • @strawman9410
      @strawman9410 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paradiselost9946 go check his upload called THUNDERBOLT all the information you want

  • @lawrence1md
    @lawrence1md 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You should have put coils on both sides of the magnet array

    • @FieldBoy111
      @FieldBoy111 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What would that do

    • @lawrence1md
      @lawrence1md 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@FieldBoy111 it would either double the current or double the voltage depending on how you electrically connect them

  • @jonathanfernando-k3b
    @jonathanfernando-k3b 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If u think about this type of self electrical generation its hella genius, cause ur eliminating a whole lot of lossy steps for power generation cause ur literally converting what u eat and drink into electrical energy.And the other big bonus is that it is enviromentally beneficial no pesky co emissions to worry about

    • @stevenschnepp576
      @stevenschnepp576 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If all you're powering is an LED light, sure!

  • @UnKnown-hf4mi
    @UnKnown-hf4mi ปีที่แล้ว

    If this thing was made to be as efficient as possible… I would totally buy one from this guy.

    • @SmartZero-f8e
      @SmartZero-f8e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      this guy doesn´t have the necessary equipment to do it.

  • @ancientstraits9288
    @ancientstraits9288 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I REALLY want to make this for some reason. One part of me feels like there's no point, because of the electricity we readily have, but the other part of me thinks that this could help me be more self-sufficient and off-the-grid, or something. Anyways, 2-3 hours to charge a phone is actually extremely impressive. And if you made a generator from a bicycle, you could probably charge it even faster!

  • @p1ayM0NKEY
    @p1ayM0NKEY 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Now do a portable bicycle generator

    • @Vegetable-Jesus
      @Vegetable-Jesus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "please"

    • @mayday8443
      @mayday8443 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Imagine an electric bike you could charge by pedaling it 🤯

    • @Vegetable-Jesus
      @Vegetable-Jesus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mayday8443 that's already a thing

  • @blacklight683
    @blacklight683 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    0 electricity blender

  • @hallenb328
    @hallenb328 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You didn't show the schematic for your series+parallel arrangement of the coils. The output of each coil will be AC, but at different phases from one another. If you have several out of phase coils in parallel, a lot of wasted current will be running between each coil and the mathematical sum of the voltages will go to the "output" of the group. You will generate (example) 10 kW of power but only be able to make use of 3kW. This will heat up the coils more than you probably expect and you'll have to derate the current capacity of the wires.
    A way to fix this is if you have a fullwave bridge on each coil, and you can combine the bridge output in series and/or parallel to your liking to get a more efficient generator. [There are other ways too.]

  • @AKATEATime
    @AKATEATime 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The increase in resistance to turning it with a load is exactly how regenerative braking works.

  • @Rockstarbird21
    @Rockstarbird21 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Mr. Tom. I hope you are doing good. I'm from India. I love your videos and the way you explain. I have been watching your videos from past 2 years. My journey to this amazing channel was when I searched for ebike build videos. Since then I have followed you
    Since I changed my account I list my subscribe list. But then thanks to yt I remembered your channel back. I was actually planning to buy a car alternator for this project but then you came in and saved thousands of rupees. Thank you so much. Please keep up the great work😊😊😊.

  • @thatguychris5654
    @thatguychris5654 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    They should have one of these in every school's science class. When kids understand how much effort it takes to power something, they might appreciate how energy dense fossil fuels are.

  • @Rose-yx6jq
    @Rose-yx6jq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Now if you atrach this to a steam engine you've got a very simple power station.

  • @edwardp7725
    @edwardp7725 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Everytime I think im smart I open up youtube and get humbled

    • @samirsragegaming1353
      @samirsragegaming1353 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr man

    • @oylesine285
      @oylesine285 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This platform breaking my hopes. Feeling so dump.

  • @fabiant.2485
    @fabiant.2485 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the most ergonomically convenient version of this would be to power it with a foot pedal. Plus maybe a built in flywheel to even out the effort required to keep it spinning. That way you could operate it while sitting and have your hands free for other tasks.

  • @maikolverasson1735
    @maikolverasson1735 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had nothing to do with electronics so far in my life, so this was super fun to watch!

  • @viermidebutura
    @viermidebutura ปีที่แล้ว +10

    One thing i noticed among all DIY generators videos is no matter how nicely looking the generator is made it always fails in the magnetic circuit part thus the generator will always run with an abysmal efficiency

    • @godfreypoon5148
      @godfreypoon5148 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. Nobody ever seems to have the foggiest about magnetics design.

    • @mylittleparody2277
      @mylittleparody2277 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Well then, please do enlight us and teach how to make more efficient generators.

    • @godfreypoon5148
      @godfreypoon5148 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mylittleparody2277 get rekt, people pay me for things like that

    • @mylittleparody2277
      @mylittleparody2277 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@godfreypoon5148 Then stop yelling at free content if you are not willing to give freely yourself...

  • @biervampir6
    @biervampir6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hi Tom, how about a bicycle pedal powered generator that supports USB-C PD?
    I could imagine charging a large Powerbank or maybe a laptop directly while sitting on a chair and using your legs. Could be a nice gadget for camping or survival stuff or so.

    • @Ed.R
      @Ed.R ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pedal powered generators are cool I've made a few in the past. If you connect it to a 12V battery it's easy to find regulators and chargers to power all sorts.

  • @thatonneguy
    @thatonneguy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I feel like the maker community is going down a very predictable path, and I'm finally starting to catch up. About 10 minutes before this vid popped up for me, I was wondering if this exact thing would be possible. Every time I think "I wonder if this is possible", I discover it was already done quite some time ago. I'm only 6 days late for this one, and it's the first time I've seen your channel.
    If I'm correct.... are we really about to be printing clean energy with 3d printers? I'm stoked.

    • @jarateman6427
      @jarateman6427 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If course its possible people have made gens like this for years by using bikes + and alternators. Its all the same. Turn it using wind,water,hamsters etc

  • @NakedSageAstrology
    @NakedSageAstrology 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You're amazing thank you! I want to print this so my son and I can learn how different sized coils, gear ratios, wire gauge, magnet placement and number of magnets affect the output.

  • @philochristos
    @philochristos 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you attached that to a stationary bike, you could charge your stuff a lot easier and get a workout at the same time.

  • @Spedley_2142
    @Spedley_2142 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Would be interesting to see if you can engineer it for using leg muscles instead of hand. Hooking it to your shoe and hanging it from your belt would allow you to use the far larger muscles in your leg. Charging at battery bank at 12V and 5A could be done in a few minutes but would give a whole days mobile phone charge.

  • @InAJamAgain
    @InAJamAgain ปีที่แล้ว +6

    FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER

  • @rodnyg7952
    @rodnyg7952 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    yes, it's a hand crank generator. They've been around since the late 1950's. Not practical at all for charging a smartphone

    • @SmartZero-f8e
      @SmartZero-f8e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I can push out easily ~60 W with handcranking. I can charge 3 phones/hour with 60 watts via USB. so it IS practical to have tech like that. Especially since hand-crankers are cheap. they cost only 100$, but are really quite powerful.
      Imagine you would have no house. You could power nearly everyhing that way. Price is: the pedal-generators are expensive.
      So with this lowend 5W/10W-Handcranker here you can really have "fun", charging just one phone/hour. It wouldn´t even be fully charged in one hour. But on my handcrankers you can charge so much more and on my pedal-generator you can even charge 4 TABLETS/hour. This assumes a 36Wh-battery used in each tablet. 4 tablets equals 160Wh. 10% power-loss (160W/hour - 10% = 144Wh left netto after USB-conversion = 4 x 36Wh for each tablet 36Wh). My Pedal-Generator can do PD and enables superfast-charging via 12V-Cigarette-Ligher Plug. 10% USB-loss is only because i use a GAN-capable Superfast-charging Cigarette plug.

    • @rodnyg7952
      @rodnyg7952 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SmartZero-f8e you make no sense. The most anyone can generate from hand-cranking would be 5 to15 watts. That means for every hour of continuous hand cranking you can run your laptop for about 6 to 10 minutes, or smartphone for about 16 min. You'd have to continuously crank most of your life away in order to regularly use any tech. So, silly person, you'd better get cranking, lol

    • @SmartZero-f8e
      @SmartZero-f8e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No. Most hand-crankers today can handle 30-40 Watts. Not 10-15 Watts like you claimed. You get this only with 12V output though, as with USB-output 50% of watts is lost because of voltage-conversion. That´s a user-problem though if he wants to charge via USB. I don´t use USB-charging in most cases so i don´t have this problem.
      My handcrankers can even handle ~50 W max. Though with these old motors the resistance is very high, so you can only reach 40W on these realistically with human hands.
      I use a pedal-cranking device where i use HANDS instead of feet. I get easily 60-80W here via hands, since my hands have really gotten very powerful in the las 6 monhs.
      But my pedal-generator can handle up 200W. And realistic are 120W for me currenly/hour.

    • @rodnyg7952
      @rodnyg7952 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SmartZero-f8e ....you're a dingbat

    • @rodnyg7952
      @rodnyg7952 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SmartZero-f8e you babble a lot

  • @AerialWaviator
    @AerialWaviator ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This "Hank Kranken Generator" is neat project with a simple easy to understand design. Just in time for winter, should the electric go out. ;)
    A leg powered crank could allow producing greater amount of power, or allow longer sessions as leg muscles are more stronger than arm or wrist muscles.

  • @Fifury161
    @Fifury161 ปีที่แล้ว

    How incredibly generous of you! Looks like a really nice design, thanks for sharing.

  • @TheRedRobin96
    @TheRedRobin96 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know it's not producing a lot of power but I feel like something like this should be in every household.

  • @Timothymukansi
    @Timothymukansi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I immediately thought of coupling this on a bicycle wheel and powering rear and front lights (and maybe some LEDs on the spokes too for aesthetics). Well done on the POC

  • @DiyEcoProjects
    @DiyEcoProjects ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10:38 HI TIM ~ i recommend charging power blocks first, then your phone off a power block. That way you can avoid the jagged signal which is likely to kill your phone. All the best

  • @derklempner
    @derklempner 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like this build. As for not wanting to crank the generator for more than a few minutes at a time, you could solve that by converting it into a pedal crank and use your legs/feet instead.

  • @anrchannel6341
    @anrchannel6341 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally awesome. Alot of kids can learn how generator works.

  • @thedarkknight1971
    @thedarkknight1971 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11:46 - You COULD connect the generator to a big blade prop on a pole in your garden to charge your phone! Especially with the winds we've been having recently! 🤔😏😉👍
    😎🇬🇧

  • @tulsatrash
    @tulsatrash ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if a pedal powered generator could let you run a modem and gaming laptop.
    New definition of sweaty gamer.

    • @SmartZero-f8e
      @SmartZero-f8e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes it does. 120W in total is possible @ 12V!

  • @elementkx
    @elementkx ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome. You should sell a kit for people to watch this vid and make one themselves. I would love to make this with my kids.

  • @Hunterfivestars
    @Hunterfivestars 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks like my own club going to build this generator

  • @AtkataffTheAlpha
    @AtkataffTheAlpha 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who likes to fidget, this is pretty neat but also has a function that i can use to power or charge something. Also how simple generators really are.

  • @dice268926
    @dice268926 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🤯6:40 seeing HOW MUCH MORE EFFORT you must put in to equal the one you homemade is UNREAL

  • @akhilbudhal6848
    @akhilbudhal6848 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a South African, this + a hamster is gonna help a lot. Thank you

  • @footlongsubzero1128
    @footlongsubzero1128 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely loved this video. I love the way you explain things for my simple mind to absorb 🥴👌. I've learned a lot from this. Thank you 🙏

  • @Foodgeek
    @Foodgeek ปีที่แล้ว

    What a cool project. Love it :)
    I was looking for something fun to print (and soldier and stuff) :D

  • @hooverity
    @hooverity 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is actually pretty sick. You should make the hand crank detachable and make a lil water wheel to generate power

  • @Hisu0
    @Hisu0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd add that supercap bank to the generator (well, maybe a bigger one), and also a switching voltage regulator. This will give it constant output AND constant physical resistance.

  • @apollo7557
    @apollo7557 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It would be sick to have a much higher gear reduction, and connect it to a bike sprocket! I imagine this would be very handy in a power outage lol

  • @grahamcartwright3632
    @grahamcartwright3632 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can hear Medhi saying "FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER!" in my head

  • @xavior_india_0891
    @xavior_india_0891 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The design and quality of this generator rivals that of Apple products. So beautiful ❤️

  • @kevnar
    @kevnar 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guy will still be watching TV in the apocalypse. It will be fuzz, but it will be powered.

  • @AttilioG
    @AttilioG หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Parabéns !! Um excelente vídeo e altamente didático.
    Obrigado pela postagem !!!
    Mas o que aconteceria se acoplado à uma bike !?

  • @cosmiccrunch8591
    @cosmiccrunch8591 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome project! I'd convert this over to foot pedal power for a more effortless, handsfree charging system.

  • @matthewsemenuk8953
    @matthewsemenuk8953 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool. I wanted to build something like this as a kid and turn local muskrat dam into a hydro electric one.

  • @ko-ne-de-do
    @ko-ne-de-do 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay, I sincerely love this channel.

  • @Kumarrohan67
    @Kumarrohan67 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10 years back, I was very passionate about this when I was in my 4th or 5th grade so then at that time, I made one handheld model using 2 CDs, a cricket bat handle, a long rubber band, an LED, a few wires, and a DC motor. It was one of the first few things I made as a child (who wanted to be an inventor 😅😅😅).