Impressive work in all your videos very well explained , thank you very much for share with all...this motor can run conected to a source of static current to , with a ground conection ?
foupana Thanks. What do you mean by static current? I recently released a video showing how to run this corona motor using triboelectricity, which is a way of charging something electrostatically. You can see that video here th-cam.com/video/6x6DqPL14yU/w-d-xo.html
Thanks my friend,is my error i have make a confusion loking to your motor, and i thinking in other ...my question is about an opinion that i have that we can use a LITLE of DC power (Volts and Amps),to produce a hudge quantity of (high voltage) , than this type of motor is very importante , conected to high voltage , source: sucking of the air or other ways like a big wimshurst machine, but in resume the idea is with high voltage put in rotation a motor with a flywheel that produce more Amps that we need to put in (to extract), to run for example the wimshurst but with some modifications in the type of the rotor and capacitor's, regulating the spark to be more fast as possible and more power , maybe we can run a very important motor generator of DC power out , use an inverter , charge bateries 24 h a day... in my research about rotors i have see that is possible to make them anti-gravity with the repulsion of magnets, and in one side o axe"rotor" a metal sephere in contact with a glass , (reduce the quntity of friction) and the amps that we need to a good rotation "velocity"will be more low, in my opinion probably with a flywheel to asist the 2 disc's of the wimshurst machine is better , anti-gravity technic and without bearings , only glass and spheres "speaking about the type of rotor"... thanks for your time keep the good work my friend, i consider extremely important people like you that educate and help others in many ways, like the (the production of electricity) . if you need to ask something you can contact me in the facebook : Name :(João Cantinho) Country: Portugal
foupana You can use a small DC power (voltage x amps) to produce a high voltage but at the same time the amps will be made smaller. With the losses, the output power will be less than the input power. You always need an external energy source to get more out. I don't know if you have built things yourself, but if not, try building your ideas and you'll quickly learn the limitations.
Awesome work! I plan to make one of these at some point! Have you tried connecting one side to a rubber spray-painted steel plate (or ball) high in the air and the other to Earth ground. You should be able to get this thing spinning using atmospheric power alone collected by the plate/ball. Tesla has a patent for this patent No. 685,957 "apparatus for the utilization of radiant energy".
Use Van De Graaff generator instead of Wimshurst machine so you can spin the Corona electrostatic motor very fast with 15+ kilovolts of static electricity. Next step experiment, you can connect Corona electrostatic motor to electric generator so you can spin the generator to generate AC voltage.
Great video. Very good camera action and clear explanation. I am going to build this motor as well. If I will be able to build electrostatic motor big and powerful enough to run 9-10 kW generator…. I will say bye-bye to city power. Very excited!
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First time I've heard of this sort of motor. It's an interesting concept, though I still don't understand the function of the aluminum foil inside the jar after reading you webpage. It only says, "For improved performance, an electrically conductive material lines the inside of the cylinder". Given that it seems to produce a significant amount of torque, I wonder if it wouldn't be even more powerful if the blades rested lightly on the rotor so that the electrons would have an easier time flowing onto the plastic and back off.
The blades resting on the rotor would introduce "drag" on the rotor. This likely preventing it from turning at all, as there is very little torque available during start up due to the small or limited amount of current flowing through the device. The demonstrated torque produced while spinning is of course the effect of the mass of the moving rotor assembly.
Try to think of the drum and the knives a (set of) capacitors. Putting the alu-foil inside the cylinder increases the capacitance of the capacitor. It is much like switched capacitor filter, where the cylinder is the center capacitor. The more energy (charge) it can switch per cycle, the stronger the force from the electric field, and the more mechanical power is transmitted to the shaft
I made this with a 3 kv power supply and got < 1 efficiency. But it was cool to see it work. Thanks for the idea. Mine was much smaller. I used staggered needel design rather than a blade design, maybe that's why I got low efficiency?
Could be. With needles there's less charge area to repel and attraction the charged areas of the cylinder. But I haven't redone my efficiency test for this one yet... it may also be < 1% efficiency.
Does the surface of the rotor have to be covered in a conductor? I imagine that some of the charge can be transferred to the surface of a non conductor right?
I never had seem one before, it is really amazing what can be done with eletrostatic. But I got curious about the power. if you had made it with a bigger radius or with more blades it would harness more power?
Thanx for this awesome video . I am going to make it for my science exhibition . Can u plz give me a brief explanation on how it works and also tell me whether the doping is necessary or not??
Akshat Ahuja I have an explanation of how it works on my website here rimstar.org/science_electronics_projects/corona_motor_electrostatic_atmospheric_motor.htm. The doping isn't absolutely necessary - most people don't do it at all. It's just an enhancement.
Pyramids and Tartarian structures were apparently aware of this free energy as were Zeppelins back in the day. Did you ever notice Zeppelins always had an anchorage at the top of the highest buildings/structures?
Tesla's idea was to keep the voltage and boost the potential; is what's needed to run motors, televisions and any other electronic or electrical devices.
can you make a corona motor with charged electrets out side of the cylinder or reverse it and have a large electret in the center to be driven by other electrets or static discharge?
Very nice demonstration. Given that the high voltage has very little amperage, why can't you introduce a small transformer coupled with a few capacitors in series. You engineer some amps. What do you think?
There is a maximum voltage that will exist - that's the voltage required for breaking down the air in the gap between the blades and the surface of the cylinder. The voltage won't go any higher than that. So I guess once you determine what that voltage is then you can do something like you suggest and tune your supply to better match.
since you used your cube generator to power this...which uses flyback with internal diode and it provide pulsed dc so can i assume that an output from flyback of a plasma tv will work?
Would applying this vertically to harvest atmospheric static energy work? Would I get better results using copper, but also insulating the antenna line up to the peak point of where I want?
Sure, I harvest atmospheric electricity with it in this video here th-cam.com/video/qhXxSAv6rMg/w-d-xo.html and explain it here th-cam.com/video/2rVdEhyMR6A/w-d-xo.html. Note that this is not an electromagnetic motor so it does work with an antenna. Antennas receive electromagnetic waves. This motor works using high voltage and electrostatics instead. So the wire used for atmospheric electricity isn't called an antenna, it's just a long wire collecting charge from higher up in the atmosphere. I don't think the type of metal used makes any difference. And insulating the antenna up to the peak point is what I did. The wire has an enamel coating on it which insulates it. However, I do wonder if having more of the wire be uninsulated near the top end might collect more charge.
Increasing the number of antennae would increase the current, not the voltage. But that's okay, that would still mean more power. The voltage is increased by going higher. I don't really have a good answer regarding the blades, there seem to be a lot of variables there.
If you put the tin foil on the inside of the jar, how does the charge get to the foil to charge it positive? Is it breaking down the plastic dielectric surface?
BGT Productions The charge doesn't get to the foil inside the jar. However, the charge does move around on that foil wherever there's a blade on the outside of the jar. There is an electric field between those charges on the foil and those on the blade, since an electric field isn't blocked by the plastic dielectric. That electric field is added to the electric field between the blade and charges on the surface of the plastic, resulting in an overall stronger electric field. That stronger electric field helps move charge between the blade and the jar.
BGT Productions Yes, for this one you need a corona between the blades and the outer surface of the jar. That's how the charge is moved from one to the other. Or I guess you could say that the corona is largely the charge that is moving from one to the other. For electric fields alone to work I guess you could make a different machine with a different power supply that would use high voltage pulses to produce motion by repulsion without charge transfer. I don't think a smooth surfaced jar wouldn't work. You'd probably need the jar to have a sawtoothed surface and turn on the field only when the next diagonal surface arrived. Hard to describe in words and I'm making it up as I go, but I think something could be done.
Muneer Arif In my experience with these bearings, adding lubricants like oil has the opposite effect. The I linked to explains the purpose of the lubricant. Some say that graphite makes them work more freely but I haven't tested that myself.
I tried putting it on a small four wheeled vehicle with a pulley system to convert to a lower speed, gearing it down essentially, for the wheels but I couldn't get enough torque.
Awesome project! I am currently designing and building one of these motors and am trying to maximize the speed of the rotor. What do you think the relationship between a number of blades and the speed/torque is? Do you have any tips? Thanks!
Nope, I don't have any formulas or tips. I just went on intuition. For all I know, double the number I have might be better. Another variable might be the amount of current your power supply has to offer. I give an explanation of how the corona motor works near the end of this video th-cam.com/video/2rVdEhyMR6A/w-d-xo.html where I powered it on atmospheric electricity.
sorry I know that this video is old but I have a question... Do you know a place where I can get my wood cut into that shape, and also a paper mold, so they know how to cut the wood. Thank you
At someone's request, I drew up the plans for the two end pieces and made them available for a reasonable $5 (to support this channel) on my Etsy store here www.etsy.com/ca/listing/630576535/corona-motorelectrostatic-motor It sounds like what you're looking for. I don't know where you can get it cut though. Maybe look for a makespace/hackerspace in your area or possibly a school with a wood shop.
now THAT's a sexy motor! Would love to see you connect it to Lord Kelvin's Thunderstorm. I'm trying to figure out how/why this works. I don't see how it could be moved by corona because the inner foil is insulated from the current in the blades by the plastic jar. I can believe there is an electrostatic induction in the foil as the current flows, and likewise in the shaft (insulated by the air in the jar). But I don't understand where the motion comes from. Obviously it works, but where is the torque coming from? Also, I'm not sure why the blades are used? Wouldn't this work just as well with bare wires instead of the blades?
hi li Very thin bare wires would also work. The advantage of the blades is that you can angle them, which gives an initial direction for the motor to move. If you use wires or if you make the blades point straight at the motor then the initial direction is left up to chance.The foil isn't necessary to get it working, but gives you enhanced performance due to that electrostatic induction. The foil results in a stronger electric field between the blade and the foil than you'd have if it was just between the blade and the atoms of the plastic. That gives more corona and more repulsion.I've yet to make a video explaining how it works but I do have an explanation on my website here rimstar.org/science_electronics_projects/corona_motor_electrostatic_atmospheric_motor.htm
interesting, so the charge flies directly out of the blades, like a tangent to the surface of the jar? I always thought electrostatic charge acted radially. Interesting.
OOOH cool cool cool. great description page. I didn't realize the blades alternated that way. That makes so much more sense now. The charge gets stuck on the insulator as it tries to move to the foil and that attractive force between the charge and the positive blade pulls them together. perfect. Thanks so much for your reply. I've never seen one of these before. I've only heard of them once. really awesome.
I see... the angle of the blades puts the charge closer to the next positive blade than the preceding blade, so even if the electrostatic charge travels radially into the foil, the geometry still gives it a bias in one direction. fantastic! will have to save my money so I can try to make one of these some day.
The voltage is required to be able to ionize air across the gap between the blades and the plastic and to provide some Coulomb force for the repulsion. I'd guess at least the low thousands. You'd need current too but as you can see in my other video here, th-cam.com/video/3t7npMCxiVo/w-d-xo.html I managed to turn it using just triboelectricity and there isn't very much current there.
how do i use the pvc pipe and cotton facecloth to produce a high voltage??? if i bring a wire close to the charged pvc pipe then where will the other wire go ???
Akshat Ahuja The other wire goes to ground. I have a sections on different grounding tricks in these two videos: th-cam.com/video/QrCgtjZwnB0/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/HZZmKZJrIW0/w-d-xo.html.To do the PCV pipe and cotton cloth technique, 1st make sure the end of the wire ends in a sharp point. I find that to get it to work I have to put the PVC pipe near the sharp point as I'm rubbing the cloth on the pipe. It doesn't work if I rub the PVC pipe and cloth vigorously for a while and then move the pipe near the sharp point. So for every every part of the stroke when the cloth is away from the part of the pipe that's near the point, the motor should get some charge.
Christopher Smith Yup. There are a few videos around that do it but mine using a pipe and rag is here th-cam.com/video/6x6DqPL14yU/w-d-xo.html. It makes use of the triboelectric effect.
Muneer Arif There isn't a lot of force to turn the rotor (the jar) so it has to turn fairly freely. Dry ceramic bearings are good for this. Most grease filled bearings don't turn freely enough, though you could try the trick I show in my video "th-cam.com/video/fdvRFE680u0/w-d-xo.html" to remove the grease and make them turn more freely.You could do without bearings if you can find some other way to make the rotor turn freely. I do that using a pen in my corona motor version 1 which you can see here "th-cam.com/video/ksp_O_1WmvA/w-d-xo.html".The wood I use is pine because it's easy to cut. Any type of wood will work.
if you add more aluminium foil and more electrodes will it become a stronger motor? more voltage and amperage ? also i wanted to ask you if you know how to make a tesla antena the one thath harness electrcity from air or radio waves i dont know because whith thath you could power this motor almost forever i watched otter videos but no one explain whith such detail as you thanks for sharing a way of freedom i have a file whith all the patents of tesla in pdf i can send it to you i want to put this tecnology on my bike
+ivan grompone The inside of the cylinder where the electrodes are is already completely covered so there's no more place to put aluminum foil. Removing some of the foil would make it work less well. As for adding more electrodes, there's probably some sweet spot in terms of how many is best. More than that would probably just contribute to losses. But I don't have any way other than trial and error for figuring out how many. As for a Tesla antenna, I'm not familiar with it. Tesla's Wardenclyffe tower was a transmitter as far as I know. Crystal radios are radios what use the incoming radio waves to power themselves but the power is very low. Re patents, I have a book with all of Tesla's patents but I haven't read them all.
I'm interested in constructing your Corona Motor V2 and would like to ask for the measurements / dimensions of your base (the details the wood part) - so that I can recreate it perfectly). I hope to speak to you soon!
As you can probably guess from 1:40 in the video, I designed and drew it all out on the piece of wood, using the diameter of the cylinder as a starting point (i.e. I made it big enough so that the blades would be close to the cylinder while still being adjustable). So if your cylinder is a different diameter then you'll have to come up with dimensions which work for it. If you still need dimensions then let me know and I'll put something on my website. But I'm super busy so it may take a while.
Could you get this thing to power a flywheel you know how you can lift a heavy fly wheel while it’s spinning relatively easy an move with its energy If you were to find a way to make it catch a string /cable an wind up like a yo-yo flick pulling its mass upward and instead of free spooling back down then have it attached to a alternator you could store it easy an cheap renewable all night round lol
@@RimstarOrg at what scale and Is it possible to use Corona or atmo motors in Fans like ceiling fan or room air coolers with dc supply. As they are light weight and obtain high speed. Less weight means do they consume less electricity as compared to other dc or bldc motors like they are heavier then this. please answer both?
I suspect these (electrostatic motors) are less efficient than electromagnet motors (the kind you find everywhere) despite the weight difference. The conduction of ions between the blades and the cylinders allows for a lot of loss.
hi rimstar, you said that that you bough t were not he bearings from ebay but i searched on it they were not avlbl so can we use skateboard bearings ............
Muneer Arif I gave you a link to where you can buy them on ebay in my reply under my other video. Here it is again www.ebay.com/itm/261462513315?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 They ship internationally. Roller blade bearings might work if you remove the grease from using the method I pointed out in this video th-cam.com/video/fdvRFE680u0/w-d-xo.html But I've never tried it with roller blade bearings so I can't promise it will work.
Probably not. It works by producing ions in the gap between the blade and the surface of the cylinder and molecules (e.g. air molecules) are needed for that.
Thanks. I've never measured it. However, it can't be much since in this video I show powering it using the Triboelectric effect th-cam.com/video/6x6DqPL14yU/w-d-xo.html. With that the current is very small. The gap size between the blades and the cylinder set the voltage limit, probably only one or two thousand volts, but with the small current I'd say the power is in the micro to milliwatts. It is a low torque motor though.
Muneer Arif If you mean the plastic that the blades are attached to, I cut them from plastic sheets that I bought at a hobby store. But anything that's not electrically conductive (don't use metal) will work e.g. plastic, wood. Look around your place or in stores for anything you can use as is or you can cut pieces from e.g. popsicle sticks, straws, plastic containers, ... Maybe even corrugated cardboard from boxes will be rigid enough. Keep an open mind when looking. The plastic I used for the circuit boards in my latest video about wireless transmission of electricity was cut from plastic that was a container for an appliance I took apart.
hi rimstar ii made this motor but it doesnt work pls can u tell me what all can be the reasons for not working .............. i have tried till 6000 volts but still it wasnt working .
Muneer Arif What did you use as a power supply? 6000 volts should be enough since you just have to cross the gap from the edge of the blade to the jar. Make sure no blades touch the jar. Make the spacing as close as you can get it. If you give the jar a turn by hand it always stops at the same place then it isn't balanced and that may make it hard to start. Do your bearings have grease in them or no grease? Greased bearings can have a lot of friction. Mine are ceramic dry bearings, dry meaning there's not grease in them.
+Onur Cevik Wax is a good alternative, you can melt wax onto it. Epoxy/resin is also good and will last longer than wax since wax can come off easily. Wherever there are sharp edges there is a stronger electric field than where there is a flat surface. Because of that stronger electric field, charge can leak off from there. But the only place you want charge to leave the blade is at the sharp edge facing the cylinder. So by insulating those other edges you reduce some losses from leakage.
Muneer Arif In the comments to my video th-cam.com/video/fdvRFE680u0/w-d-xo.html one person said he uses "Carb cleaner" and another said "you can clean the grease out with brake cleaner. I would do it outside though as the stuff is stinky. You don't need to rinse after using brake cleaner."
Muneer Arif I don't know how much power it needs, but it is very little. It needs high voltage but very low current. Pretty much any high voltage DC source should work.
Thanks for this - Ive never heard of an Electrostatic motor! Very cool. Now an important question - who is the background music from (seriously) ? It sounds like a take on Pink Floyd's "One of these Days"
This guy does more to earn his Likes than any other TH-camr out there.
You turned on the corona motor and 5 years later it spread corona all over the world. Nice job
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Lol :)
What do you do when when the motor starts coughing?
excellent build, i had NO idea an electrostatic motor could have such tourque.
4:51 the moment you realize you could've just attached the handle to the fan itself LOL Great video, love the clear instructions
I have to admire your craftmanship with simple tools, these devivces look pretty good for the resources you use.Great videos and to the point!!
You make the coolest things and you have so much knowledge to share. Keep up the good work and thanks for the videos you make. :)
New video showing the making of my newest Corona Motor (v2). And a new demo at the end running it at high speed off of my Cube power supply. Enjoy!
Impressive work in all your videos very well explained , thank you very much for share with all...this motor can run conected to a source of static current to , with a ground conection ?
foupana
Thanks. What do you mean by static current? I recently released a video showing how to run this corona motor using triboelectricity, which is a way of charging something electrostatically. You can see that video here th-cam.com/video/6x6DqPL14yU/w-d-xo.html
Thanks my friend,is my error i have make a confusion loking to your motor, and i thinking in other ...my question is about an opinion that i have that we can use a LITLE of DC power (Volts and Amps),to produce a hudge quantity of (high voltage) , than this type of motor is very importante , conected to high voltage , source: sucking of the air or other ways like a big wimshurst machine, but in resume the idea is with high voltage put in rotation a motor with a flywheel that produce more Amps that we need to put in (to extract), to run for example the wimshurst but with some modifications in the type of the rotor and capacitor's, regulating the spark to be more fast as possible and more power , maybe we can run a very important motor generator of DC power out , use an inverter , charge bateries 24 h a day... in my research about rotors i have see that is possible to make them anti-gravity with the repulsion of magnets, and in one side o axe"rotor" a metal sephere in contact with a glass , (reduce the quntity of friction) and the amps that we need to a good rotation "velocity"will be more low, in my opinion probably with a flywheel to asist the 2 disc's of the wimshurst machine is better , anti-gravity technic and without bearings , only glass and spheres "speaking about the type of rotor"... thanks for your time keep the good work my friend, i consider extremely important people like you that educate and help others in many ways, like the (the production of electricity) . if you need to ask something you can contact me in the facebook : Name :(João Cantinho) Country: Portugal
foupana
You can use a small DC power (voltage x amps) to produce a high voltage but at the same time the amps will be made smaller. With the losses, the output power will be less than the input power. You always need an external energy source to get more out. I don't know if you have built things yourself, but if not, try building your ideas and you'll quickly learn the limitations.
thank you,!
You are a genius, congrats dude! this machine can help you or others to found a new society of this new way to get renewable energy
Bro I hope that's sarcasm lol
Awesome work! I plan to make one of these at some point! Have you tried connecting one side to a rubber spray-painted steel plate (or ball) high in the air and the other to Earth ground. You should be able to get this thing spinning using atmospheric power alone collected by the plate/ball. Tesla has a patent for this patent No. 685,957 "apparatus for the utilization of radiant energy".
Just saw a video from him about it
Wonderfully clever motor! Simple materials but you balanced the rotor and allowed for correct alignment of parts.
Nine years later I'm giving this video a like and a comment, since I'm just discovering this tech now.
Very creative. Nice build. Well done video. A lot of work went into that project.
Thanks. It's lot of work but doesn't seem like it since it's done one step at a time.
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He cited Dr Richard Feynman.
great experiment making one these and the other neodymium generator
Only your imagination & tech skills can go further with these idea's .
Wow that is really well-engineered.
So is the coronavirus
Nice build. Easy and using common parts and tools! Good work!
You forgot to show what it looks like running in the dark. ;-)
Thanks! Yeah, since this was the one on making, I figured I'd do easy on the demos... so no running in the dark :).
You have a huge amount og time on your hands!
P.s. I really like your videos keep them coming!
Use Van De Graaff generator instead of Wimshurst machine so you can spin the Corona electrostatic motor very fast with 15+ kilovolts of static electricity. Next step experiment, you can connect Corona electrostatic motor to electric generator so you can spin the generator to generate AC voltage.
Great video. Very good camera action and clear explanation. I am going to build this motor as well. If I will be able to build electrostatic motor big and powerful enough to run 9-10 kW generator…. I will say bye-bye to city power. Very excited!
a happy new year rimstar
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+Lemuel Crentsil It weighs 664 grams.
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First time I've heard of this sort of motor. It's an interesting concept, though I still don't understand the function of the aluminum foil inside the jar after reading you webpage. It only says, "For improved performance, an electrically conductive material lines the inside of the cylinder".
Given that it seems to produce a significant amount of torque, I wonder if it wouldn't be even more powerful if the blades rested lightly on the rotor so that the electrons would have an easier time flowing onto the plastic and back off.
The blades resting on the rotor would introduce "drag" on the rotor. This likely preventing it from turning at all, as there is very little torque available during start up due to the small or limited amount of current flowing through the device. The demonstrated torque produced while spinning is of course the effect of the mass of the moving rotor assembly.
Try to think of the drum and the knives a (set of) capacitors. Putting the alu-foil inside the cylinder increases the capacitance of the capacitor. It is much like switched capacitor filter, where the cylinder is the center capacitor. The more energy (charge) it can switch per cycle, the stronger the force from the electric field, and the more mechanical power is transmitted to the shaft
Awesome build and demonstration.
I had a though why only electromagnetism is being used and why not electrostatics. I was searching for answers when I found this. Great work.
That is really cool.
I made this with a 3 kv power supply and got < 1 efficiency. But it was cool to see it work. Thanks for the idea. Mine was much smaller. I used staggered needel design rather than a blade design, maybe that's why I got low efficiency?
Could be. With needles there's less charge area to repel and attraction the charged areas of the cylinder. But I haven't redone my efficiency test for this one yet... it may also be < 1% efficiency.
Well Done, Nice.
I love you and your channel.
Man, this is amazing
Yeah, it really moves when powered with my cube power supply!
Does the surface of the rotor have to be covered in a conductor? I imagine that some of the charge can be transferred to the surface of a non conductor right?
Awesome stuff!
Dime no probastes usar la estatica de una antena para onda larga tal como una radio galena ? Te felicito por el ingenio esta muy facil de hacer
thanks for that idea sir
AWESOME!
I never had seem one before, it is really amazing what can be done with eletrostatic.
But I got curious about the power. if you had made it with a bigger radius or with more blades it would harness more power?
It's hard for me to say. There's probably a trade-off point somewhere where increased losses from more blades will start to mean less power.
i love this.
Grt8 job very smart thank you
Thanx for this awesome video .
I am going to make it for my science exhibition .
Can u plz give me a brief explanation on how it works and also tell me whether the doping is necessary or not??
Akshat Ahuja I have an explanation of how it works on my website here rimstar.org/science_electronics_projects/corona_motor_electrostatic_atmospheric_motor.htm. The doping isn't absolutely necessary - most people don't do it at all. It's just an enhancement.
Genius!
Wish this would work in my Coronado RV air conditioner!
Pyramids and Tartarian structures were apparently aware of this free energy as were Zeppelins back in the day.
Did you ever notice Zeppelins always had an anchorage at the top of the highest buildings/structures?
Nice motor but now time to try to make any static antenna to make it work then u will have all the free energy u want
Already done! Check it out here th-cam.com/video/P0lYZtz7TZ0/w-d-xo.html
thanx rimstar
Tesla's idea was to keep the voltage and boost the potential; is what's needed to run motors, televisions and any other electronic or electrical devices.
Grwat job guy
That is awesome
Thanks. It turned out pretty nice.
can you make a corona motor with charged electrets out side of the cylinder or reverse it and have a large electret in the center to be driven by other electrets or static discharge?
I don't see how it would work. There wouldn't be any energy source. Electrets themselves aren't a source of energy.
hi rimstar please can you tell if we can put another of bearing other than ceramic
Very nice demonstration. Given that the high voltage has very little amperage, why can't you introduce a small transformer coupled with a few capacitors in series. You engineer some amps. What do you think?
There is a maximum voltage that will exist - that's the voltage required for breaking down the air in the gap between the blades and the surface of the cylinder. The voltage won't go any higher than that. So I guess once you determine what that voltage is then you can do something like you suggest and tune your supply to better match.
rimstar aso pls can you tell what type of plastic have you used ........... i am making it for a science exhibition
thanx
since you used your cube generator to power this...which uses flyback with internal diode and it provide pulsed dc so can i assume that an output from flyback of a plasma tv will work?
I don't know. I've no experience with a flyback from a plasma TV. Maybe someone else here knows?
Would applying this vertically to harvest atmospheric static energy work? Would I get better results using copper, but also insulating the antenna line up to the peak point of where I want?
Sure, I harvest atmospheric electricity with it in this video here th-cam.com/video/qhXxSAv6rMg/w-d-xo.html and explain it here th-cam.com/video/2rVdEhyMR6A/w-d-xo.html. Note that this is not an electromagnetic motor so it does work with an antenna. Antennas receive electromagnetic waves. This motor works using high voltage and electrostatics instead. So the wire used for atmospheric electricity isn't called an antenna, it's just a long wire collecting charge from higher up in the atmosphere.
I don't think the type of metal used makes any difference. And insulating the antenna up to the peak point is what I did. The wire has an enamel coating on it which insulates it. However, I do wonder if having more of the wire be uninsulated near the top end might collect more charge.
.... Easy turn or rotary put ball bearing.... More high speed....
Can you scale this up to capture tornado electrostatic power?
what would happen if you use more blades and more than one antennae? 12 sets? 6 antennaes? wouldnt that increase the voltage
Increasing the number of antennae would increase the current, not the voltage. But that's okay, that would still mean more power. The voltage is increased by going higher. I don't really have a good answer regarding the blades, there seem to be a lot of variables there.
If you put the tin foil on the inside of the jar, how does the charge get to the foil to charge it positive? Is it breaking down the plastic dielectric surface?
BGT Productions The charge doesn't get to the foil inside the jar. However, the charge does move around on that foil wherever there's a blade on the outside of the jar. There is an electric field between those charges on the foil and those on the blade, since an electric field isn't blocked by the plastic dielectric. That electric field is added to the electric field between the blade and charges on the surface of the plastic, resulting in an overall stronger electric field. That stronger electric field helps move charge between the blade and the jar.
BGT Productions Yes, for this one you need a corona between the blades and the outer surface of the jar. That's how the charge is moved from one to the other. Or I guess you could say that the corona is largely the charge that is moving from one to the other. For electric fields alone to work I guess you could make a different machine with a different power supply that would use high voltage pulses to produce motion by repulsion without charge transfer. I don't think a smooth surfaced jar wouldn't work. You'd probably need the jar to have a sawtoothed surface and turn on the field only when the next diagonal surface arrived. Hard to describe in words and I'm making it up as I go, but I think something could be done.
Nice
Love the music who is it please.
It's Bicycle by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com).
rimstar which type of plastic was it
What's the role od innej aluminium foil?
role od innej aluminium foil? Will it work without it?
cool sir
hey rimstar can we put oil to for the in the bearings to make them work freely
Muneer Arif In my experience with these bearings, adding lubricants like oil has the opposite effect. The I linked to explains the purpose of the lubricant. Some say that graphite makes them work more freely but I haven't tested that myself.
thanx you r awesome
How much torque does it have using the wimshurts machine??
Sorry, I don't have any torque data for the Wimshurst machine.
can you make this into a bigger craft for transportation?
I tried putting it on a small four wheeled vehicle with a pulley system to convert to a lower speed, gearing it down essentially, for the wheels but I couldn't get enough torque.
Awesome project! I am currently designing and building one of these motors and am trying to maximize the speed of the rotor. What do you think the relationship between a number of blades and the speed/torque is? Do you have any tips? Thanks!
Nope, I don't have any formulas or tips. I just went on intuition. For all I know, double the number I have might be better. Another variable might be the amount of current your power supply has to offer. I give an explanation of how the corona motor works near the end of this video th-cam.com/video/2rVdEhyMR6A/w-d-xo.html where I powered it on atmospheric electricity.
Thanks for the reply! Yeah, there is not a lot of information about them online. I will experiment and post my findings. Thanks again!
sorry I know that this video is old but I have a question... Do you know a place where I can get my wood cut into that shape, and also a paper mold, so they know how to cut the wood. Thank you
At someone's request, I drew up the plans for the two end pieces and made them available for a reasonable $5 (to support this channel) on my Etsy store here www.etsy.com/ca/listing/630576535/corona-motorelectrostatic-motor It sounds like what you're looking for. I don't know where you can get it cut though. Maybe look for a makespace/hackerspace in your area or possibly a school with a wood shop.
Wow, what a crusher
now THAT's a sexy motor! Would love to see you connect it to Lord Kelvin's Thunderstorm.
I'm trying to figure out how/why this works. I don't see how it could be moved by corona because the inner foil is insulated from the current in the blades by the plastic jar. I can believe there is an electrostatic induction in the foil as the current flows, and likewise in the shaft (insulated by the air in the jar). But I don't understand where the motion comes from. Obviously it works, but where is the torque coming from?
Also, I'm not sure why the blades are used? Wouldn't this work just as well with bare wires instead of the blades?
hi li Very thin bare wires would also work. The advantage of the blades is that you can angle them, which gives an initial direction for the motor to move. If you use wires or if you make the blades point straight at the motor then the initial direction is left up to chance.The foil isn't necessary to get it working, but gives you enhanced performance due to that electrostatic induction. The foil results in a stronger electric field between the blade and the foil than you'd have if it was just between the blade and the atoms of the plastic. That gives more corona and more repulsion.I've yet to make a video explaining how it works but I do have an explanation on my website here rimstar.org/science_electronics_projects/corona_motor_electrostatic_atmospheric_motor.htm
interesting, so the charge flies directly out of the blades, like a tangent to the surface of the jar? I always thought electrostatic charge acted radially. Interesting.
OOOH cool cool cool. great description page. I didn't realize the blades alternated that way. That makes so much more sense now. The charge gets stuck on the insulator as it tries to move to the foil and that attractive force between the charge and the positive blade pulls them together. perfect. Thanks so much for your reply. I've never seen one of these before. I've only heard of them once. really awesome.
I see... the angle of the blades puts the charge closer to the next positive blade than the preceding blade, so even if the electrostatic charge travels radially into the foil, the geometry still gives it a bias in one direction. fantastic! will have to save my money so I can try to make one of these some day.
This is the principle of Lifter (Naudin) and the principle of navigation in space
What is the minimum voltage one should apply to run this
motor?
The voltage is required to be able to ionize air across the gap between the blades and the plastic and to provide some Coulomb force for the repulsion. I'd guess at least the low thousands. You'd need current too but as you can see in my other video here, th-cam.com/video/3t7npMCxiVo/w-d-xo.html I managed to turn it using just triboelectricity and there isn't very much current there.
for the high voltage power supply can we use a voltage stabiliser which is used in our air conditioners ?
Akshat Ahuja I don't know. I'm not familiar with those voltage stabilisers.
how do i use the pvc pipe and cotton facecloth to produce a high voltage???
if i bring a wire close to the charged pvc pipe then where will the other wire go ???
Akshat Ahuja The other wire goes to ground. I have a sections on different grounding tricks in these two videos: th-cam.com/video/QrCgtjZwnB0/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/HZZmKZJrIW0/w-d-xo.html.To do the PCV pipe and cotton cloth technique, 1st make sure the end of the wire ends in a sharp point. I find that to get it to work I have to put the PVC pipe near the sharp point as I'm rubbing the cloth on the pipe. It doesn't work if I rub the PVC pipe and cloth vigorously for a while and then move the pipe near the sharp point. So for every every part of the stroke when the cloth is away from the part of the pipe that's near the point, the motor should get some charge.
Isn't there a way to make it work without physical connecting it to a power supply? Saw a video of one a while back with someone with a pipe and rag
Christopher Smith Yup. There are a few videos around that do it but mine using a pipe and rag is here th-cam.com/video/6x6DqPL14yU/w-d-xo.html. It makes use of the triboelectric effect.
hi rimstar is it important to put bearings and what type of wood have you used
Muneer Arif There isn't a lot of force to turn the rotor (the jar) so it has to turn fairly freely. Dry ceramic bearings are good for this. Most grease filled bearings don't turn freely enough, though you could try the trick I show in my video "th-cam.com/video/fdvRFE680u0/w-d-xo.html" to remove the grease and make them turn more freely.You could do without bearings if you can find some other way to make the rotor turn freely. I do that using a pen in my corona motor version 1 which you can see here "th-cam.com/video/ksp_O_1WmvA/w-d-xo.html".The wood I use is pine because it's easy to cut. Any type of wood will work.
This aged well
if you add more aluminium foil and more electrodes will it become a stronger motor? more voltage and amperage ? also i wanted to ask you if you know how to make a tesla antena the one thath harness electrcity from air or radio waves i dont know because whith thath you could power this motor almost forever i watched otter videos but no one explain whith such detail as you thanks for sharing a way of freedom i have a file whith all the patents of tesla in pdf i can send it to you i want to put this tecnology on my bike
+ivan grompone The inside of the cylinder where the electrodes are is already completely covered so there's no more place to put aluminum foil. Removing some of the foil would make it work less well. As for adding more electrodes, there's probably some sweet spot in terms of how many is best. More than that would probably just contribute to losses. But I don't have any way other than trial and error for figuring out how many. As for a Tesla antenna, I'm not familiar with it. Tesla's Wardenclyffe tower was a transmitter as far as I know. Crystal radios are radios what use the incoming radio waves to power themselves but the power is very low. Re patents, I have a book with all of Tesla's patents but I haven't read them all.
hello rimstar, i have a question
does the wimhurst machine have to be powered by it
can it be powered by batteries
If you mean, can the corona motor be powered by batteries, the answer is no. It needs a high voltage, probably in the thousands of volts.
Thanks, Im missing the use of copper everywhere, isnt copper better for electra?
Can that work in reverse, like a wind turbine electric generator
No, unfortunately not. Electrostatic motors tend to not work as generators when turned like that, unlike electromagnetic motors.
I'm interested in constructing your Corona Motor V2 and would like to ask for the measurements / dimensions of your base (the details the wood part) - so that I can recreate it perfectly). I hope to speak to you soon!
As you can probably guess from 1:40 in the video, I designed and drew it all out on the piece of wood, using the diameter of the cylinder as a starting point (i.e. I made it big enough so that the blades would be close to the cylinder while still being adjustable). So if your cylinder is a different diameter then you'll have to come up with dimensions which work for it.
If you still need dimensions then let me know and I'll put something on my website. But I'm super busy so it may take a while.
Could you get this thing to power a flywheel you know how you can lift a heavy fly wheel while it’s spinning relatively easy an move with its energy If you were to find a way to make it catch a string /cable an wind up like a yo-yo flick pulling its mass upward and instead of free spooling back down then have it attached to a alternator you could store it easy an cheap renewable all night round lol
Please make a generator by which I can get ride from load shedding of electricity in my country.
can we use this motor to generate electricity? If so then what scale just fun scale or consumption scale?
Yes, you could connect it to a motor to generate electricity.
@@RimstarOrg at what scale and Is it possible to use Corona or atmo motors in Fans like ceiling fan or room air coolers with dc supply. As they are light weight and obtain high speed. Less weight means do they consume less electricity as compared to other dc or bldc motors like they are heavier then this. please answer both?
I suspect these (electrostatic motors) are less efficient than electromagnet motors (the kind you find everywhere) despite the weight difference. The conduction of ions between the blades and the cylinders allows for a lot of loss.
hi rimstar, you said that that you bough t were not he bearings from ebay but i searched on it they were not avlbl so can we use skateboard bearings ............
Muneer Arif I gave you a link to where you can buy them on ebay in my reply under my other video. Here it is again www.ebay.com/itm/261462513315?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 They ship internationally. Roller blade bearings might work if you remove the grease from using the method I pointed out in this video th-cam.com/video/fdvRFE680u0/w-d-xo.html But I've never tried it with roller blade bearings so I can't promise it will work.
could this work better insie vacuum chamber?
Probably not. It works by producing ions in the gap between the blade and the surface of the cylinder and molecules (e.g. air molecules) are needed for that.
you should check out Daniel Gendron. Its quite fantastic
Thanks, I've seen his. His number look very good.
rimstar can we use an AC stabalizer as a high voltage power supply pls tell fast
Muneer Arif No. An AC stabilizer puts out AC whereas this need DC. Also, I suspect the DC voltage required is in the low thousands of volts.
Nice video. How many watts you need to move this rotor?
Thanks. I've never measured it. However, it can't be much since in this video I show powering it using the Triboelectric effect th-cam.com/video/6x6DqPL14yU/w-d-xo.html. With that the current is very small. The gap size between the blades and the cylinder set the voltage limit, probably only one or two thousand volts, but with the small current I'd say the power is in the micro to milliwatts. It is a low torque motor though.
Miliwats?! Thats great efficiency!
How do i make specific frequencies exact such as 440 a standard tones
rimstar aso pls can you tell what type of plastic have you used ........... i am making it for a science exihbition
thanx
Muneer Arif If you mean the plastic that the blades are attached to, I cut them from plastic sheets that I bought at a hobby store. But anything that's not electrically conductive (don't use metal) will work e.g. plastic, wood. Look around your place or in stores for anything you can use as is or you can cut pieces from e.g. popsicle sticks, straws, plastic containers, ... Maybe even corrugated cardboard from boxes will be rigid enough. Keep an open mind when looking. The plastic I used for the circuit boards in my latest video about wireless transmission of electricity was cut from plastic that was a container for an appliance I took apart.
Can you get something to measure the electricity in the air
The air gets ionized a lot go an ion meter will help measure that.
How heavy is this motor?
hi rimstar ii made this motor but it doesnt work pls can u tell me what all can be the reasons for not working .............. i have tried till 6000 volts but still it wasnt working .
Muneer Arif What did you use as a power supply? 6000 volts should be enough since you just have to cross the gap from the edge of the blade to the jar. Make sure no blades touch the jar. Make the spacing as close as you can get it. If you give the jar a turn by hand it always stops at the same place then it isn't balanced and that may make it hard to start. Do your bearings have grease in them or no grease? Greased bearings can have a lot of friction. Mine are ceramic dry bearings, dry meaning there's not grease in them.
Could you connect capacitors to it?
Yes, you can connect high voltage capacitors directly to it.
can u plz telle the uses of corona motor???
If anyone else is able to help me except for RimsStar plz feel welcome
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is super corona dope realy needed ? i cant find it in my country. any alternative chems ? and what does it do ?
+Onur Cevik Wax is a good alternative, you can melt wax onto it. Epoxy/resin is also good and will last longer than wax since wax can come off easily.
Wherever there are sharp edges there is a stronger electric field than where there is a flat surface. Because of that stronger electric field, charge can leak off from there. But the only place you want charge to leave the blade is at the sharp edge facing the cylinder. So by insulating those other edges you reduce some losses from leakage.
is there another way to remove the grease ???????
Muneer Arif In the comments to my video th-cam.com/video/fdvRFE680u0/w-d-xo.html one person said he uses "Carb cleaner" and another said "you can clean the grease out with brake cleaner. I would do it outside
though as the stuff is stinky. You don't need to rinse after using brake
cleaner."
also pls tell how much power do we need for the motor to work
Muneer Arif I don't know how much power it needs, but it is very little. It needs high voltage but very low current. Pretty much any high voltage DC source should work.
Thanks for this - Ive never heard of an Electrostatic motor! Very cool. Now an important question - who is the background music from (seriously) ? It sounds like a take on Pink Floyd's "One of these Days"
It's called Bicycle and it's by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com).
Sweet! Thanks - now I've learned two very cool things today.