Hellcat Supercharger on 392
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Hellcat Supercharger installed on 6.4L 392 Scatpack & now have dyno results. Is the Hellcat Supercharger worth installing on 5.7L or 392 Charger/Challenger? Let's find out the HP gains. The Hellcat Supercharger is a solid upgrade & great supercharger for the right price tag. The stock 6.4L 392 can only handle 6-7 lbs of boost so the WHP gains will not be the best but the Hellcat Supercharger does a solid job. Most Whipple or Magnuson Superchargers are in the 150whp gained range - will the Hellcat Supercharger be in the same range.
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I would say this is a pretty impressive - certainly a solid option!
Absolutely!!! Do you think the internals will hold?
R/T Life so why does the RT with the hellcat supercharger make more whp?
@@rt_breezy I think it's the dynos. This Mustang dyno is pretty stingy. A hellcat on this gets 600whp range.
R/T Life so which u think is more accurate the 5.7 or the 6.4?
Well you gotta remember the 392 6.4 is Bigger motor so it automatically produces more compression, it’s a higher compression motor.
I like the shop owners conservative approach to builds.....gives you peace of mind when you take it to a guy like that.
I agree. Allows you to beat on it every once in a while without worrying. Chris does some solid work.
I like how honest he is about pushing the cars to their limits keeping it safe and not giving the customers a short lived high boost engine
Agree, the Hellcat supercharger is a solid option. It all depends on how far you are going to push your car. If you are going forged, this is an awesome option because you can really crank it up.
100% agree with you on that. I know Shake N Bake is headed down this path.
how much is it?
I would have done Forged internals like you did on yours. Do a blower later if desired. If a ring lets go, it can mess up his valves, heads, cylinder maybe even the block.
If he did that - I bet 12lbs of boost would get him in the 700+whp range
@@RTLife more than that. I video'd a couple scatpacks at Rockingham Dragway doing mid 9s. Both were 1100 HP.
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Definitely, id be driving that in fear lol
He'll be allright on 6lbs but I'd def do intenals too
Yo Mason looked pissed in the car Lol.
hahaha he wasn't happy about me waking him up!
8 days into owning my new Scat and you have to drop this video 😩😩😂😂 don't tempt me! I'll PayPal Credit that blower 🙉💥😂😂
hahahhaa - always fun seeing some options if you decide to modify. Enjoy it man!
@@RTLife it is though! When i had my RT i wanted to modify, but i had a really good full warranty for 5 years. After watching you i wanted to go the same route basically as your car. But i would void the warranty immediately into modding lmao! So i went with the Scat. This is a great option i feel like for in the future, when the car is out of warranty/payed off, for modding the Scat! Thanks for the reply! Keep them coming!
Hahah PayPal credit is a trap! Haha🤫🤭
@@mr.300c You are not wrong! 😄
I know these videos are torturous for us SP guys.
Your new baby is a gift from God. Merry Christmas to you and your family. And may the new year bring you peace and happiness.🌟
Thank you very much - he has been an amazing addition. I hope you & your family have a wonderful Christmas/New Year.
If only. Love that Trans Am at the end, classic!
That was my dream car as a kid.
this by far, is some of my favorite mopar content and I'm not even a mopar kinda guy
You got snow! Cool it's about time lol, a great veiw, Sure enjoyed that Dyno and the conversation, I for the coin would go in a different direction then this build, 6lbs of boost for a12lb+ blower,, Still nice Car & at that almost bullet proof. The little guy was cool lil dude! Cheers Bud.
yah we did - man the snow came down like crazy! Chris is a great guy - certainly knows his stuff about these rides. Was cool seeing that 392 up on the dyno. The little man is growing up quick - I've been Mr. mom for the last 6 months haha. Thanks man
Look at this guy 😊❤️ making the content 👍🏾
hahaha thanks man
Always the best content 👍
Thank you - def appreciate it
A Hellcat blower is a solid option. However, I think I would prefer the centrifugal because it is easier on the drive train. Because the centrifugal has a rising boost curve and doesn't make peak boost until you hit redline, you could run a little more boost. That Scat Pack is a quick car and would probably run about an 11.2 in the quarter mile.
I was leaning Centrifugal for a while. But I think positive displacement might be the route. I like the torque & overall gains throughout the RPM range.
@@RTLife - I can understand why you would feel that way. The positive displacement supercharger better fits the personality of your car. It would make a good race between you and Modern Red Hemi. Although you have the forged internals and the engine will take higher boost, I wouldn't go crazy with it with the stock transmission.
Those are great numbers bro. Pretty cool that supercharger is compatible with it. People wanting this can maybe try their luck finding the blower off a crashed car 8-10k for some good power is great
That's what I was thinking - you can set a supercharger off a low miles hellcat. End up being less $$$. Certainly has a cool factor
Reminding of the dealer installed Performance Stages for the 5.7, if Dodge would have continue with the program this would have been a nice addition, the ultimate stage 4 for the 5.7.
I agree. This supercharger running 5-6 lbs with the stages 1-3 would have made some really nice power.
That’s a unique set up thanks for this vid !! 💪🏽💪🏽
shows it's a pretty solid option. The gains are def there
OMFG that old school Trans - Am looks fantastic
It's in really good condition - that the car I wanted when I was a kid
@@RTLife
You & me both
I work at the bus company on 3rd. Love the area, always hearing dynos going on all sides.
yah I always see tons of buses in that area. These cars sound so damn good!
All I gotta say is love seeing you with your son bro hats off we need more fathers ❤
I also live in NY, I drove my scatpack the day after the storm and it was terrifying...
agreed. Those back tires break loose quickly.
Yeah agreed my Challenger sleeps inside until the snow is gone .
I saw a hellcat on the van Wyck 😳 with the snow falling. Made me think I made a mistake buying a beater to leave my scat at home when it snow, and rain.
Try driving a cammed/stalled truck in 2wd with no weight in the bed lol idk which is worse😂😂
Yes definitely want to see what that Demon does.
same - I will see if I can make my way back over there to see it. Should make some nice power
I’ve always wondered about this combo, now I have the answer. Not a bad option.
yah the gains are certainly respectable. Certainly worth considering
Congratulations on the baby brother
Thanks man, def appreciate it. I've become Mr. Mom!
That's a decent number for only 6 lbs of boost!
I agree - 150whp make this a solid option
@@RTLife I'm curious to see what it makes at 12 lbs. I'm not sure how much boost those blowers make but that is a good option if your looking for more of a factory look
For the work that's a shit gain. 2 68s brings you up to 600 wheel at the same psi
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I wanted to originally forge my internals then go with a pro charger but now I’m considering this (still after forging the internals)
I have a 2017 392 Daytona charger with a whipple 3.0 supercharger long tube header jlt intake and a Tsp cam made 675whp with 6 1/2 pd of boost..gonna forge the motor this winter so I can really turn it up..
The good thing about going the hellcat blower route(I would chosen that route myself) is if years down the road if he needed to replace the blower for another OE blower for what ever reason he could find a replacement, as opposed to going the aftermarket route and not being able to find a replacement because the proprietary unit is no longer available or the company has gone out of business. Models, and kits get discontinued, and companies have gone out of business.
The footage reminds me of my days in rottenchester and carrying my lil boy around. He's 30 now lol
✌🏽✌🏽🙏🌲🌲 813
The time flies by quick! My other son is now 6
@@RTLife yeah it does ✌🏽✌🏽
that pull put the biggest smile on my face lol
Good video. Information from the conversation was right on point with all the research I’ve done. I put a Whipple on my 392 challenger and love it.
It's a big time difference right? A lot of people don't realize 150whp gain is big time & that's only running 6-7lbs of boost
@@RTLife that car went from a good time to a freaking riot. I rarely listen to the stereo just so I can hear the blower whine
I want one for my 5.7
it's a solid option
If you would like to save some money go with torqstorm . 3000 for the whole kit and then add a cam. Cam install where I live with tune is 2500 where I live.
@@justinmitts3605 you live in Michigan?
@@Ermiasthomas no sir. I live in Augusta ga
Dont blow your engine doin it
My stock 6.4 ran 426/425 rwhp/rwt. For 125hp/75lb-ft that is not enough gain for me. Before blowing a 392, I would have to drop in forged internals first.
Swap the final numbers and that's right where I want to be. Is there a story to go with El Pollo Gritando?
550whp is plenty to have fun with. Most likely mid/low 11's ride
The Trans Am was getting a auto to manual conversion
@@RTLife Ah, sounds right to me.
Wouldn't it make more sense to just take that extra money to make this build and trade your 392 in for a Hellcat?
@@SRT_DRE Feels better when you build something vs buy it off the lot like that
Need this in my Magnum! Sweet car!
I believe my srt392 with cam and headers made 500 @the wheel on a dyno … once I get used to that I’ll be adding a procharger with 5 pounds ( my engine isn’t built )
The real question is how much did all of it cost
Great video!!! This is why I upgraded to the redeye from a scatpack....motors aren't built for boost.....you have to dump a lot of money into the car get reliable boost....and at the end of the day,its still not a hellcat.....I thought the baby was a glowarm at first when laying on the couch....lol
yah a lot of $$$ needs to be invested to run boost safely. If I ran 7-8 lbs it would always be in the back of my head while doing hard accelerations.
If you can find a Hellcat guy wanting to upgrade and he has a low mileage blower he pulled off for a good price this would be an awesome option. Any blower is going to make more power than you can pulley for on a stock short block. If you have to buy new the 2650 Maggie would be a better choice for similar money since it's an upgrade for the Hellcat guys. I've always been curious about this route so thanks for another great video!
Love that ending my favorite 🤤🤤🤤firebird trans am
That was my favorite car as a kid
That’s not bad at all
Agreed. It's a solid option for forced air
Just to clarify the centrifugal chargers are compressing air 100% of the time, where as the roots blowers are not due to the throttle body mounting to the intake side. In conclusion the roots blowers only take crankshaft hp when they are under boost and can be more efficient. If the car is a race only car this matters 0%.
@R/TLife Congratulations again on the little one brotha you rock ✊🏾 everyday also merry Christmas brotha much love to you and the family
Thanks man, he has been a great addition! I hope you & your family have a wonderful Christmas & New Year. I really appreciate the support
@@RTLife anytime Brotha anytime always sending positive vibes and prayers your way
I thought of this originally on my own before seeing this video. Now after seeing it with the total cost and work involved on top of killing the reliability, you might as well buy a hellcat and take it to the dyno for way less.
Good to see him not pushing it. Seems like so many of these motors are blowing up after thousands of dollars of mods.
Yah it’s a shame. I’d rather have a safer tune and leave some ponies on the table.
I mean for 10 grand it's almost worth it just to put that money in the actual vehicle and maybe get yourself a 2019 Hellcat if you want Hellcat power. Scats run around 40-45k, Hellcat is 50-60k respectively. Anyway great vid.
70k+
@@terror9605 well yeah now the prices have skyrocketed. Example, my 2019 Scat was 35k when I bought it in 2020. It's now worth 47k according to Kelley Blue book value. I'd say the Hellcats are every bit 70k plus now.
@@DirtySerb might find me a used hellcat motor from a junkyard or off marketplace
I was gonna do this and wanted a 392 so bad but after learning that the insurance for a hellcat is literally only $20-$30 more In California, that I rather just buy the hellcat and put money towards the looks.
That makes sense. I would likely do the same.
can I have the address of this tuner
Here is their website - 204 N Fehr Way Bayshore, New York 11706
www.bigpowerracing.com/
@@RTLife thank you 🙏
After getting my Air-Intake, throttle body Spacer, Diablosport i3 tuner, was using 87 octane didn't really notice anything after spending 3641.00 wasn't a happy camper, called a tech an was told to program the Diablosport i3tuner to use 93% octane, gave it a shot an to my surprise I went from what I thought to be maybe an extra 7Hp to Having an Extra 40Hp awesolutly sweet. Waiting for my Short headers an flow sports exhaust the pair with install 3300.00 Canadian. Thks to all Car enthusiasts
I noticed a big jump going from 87 to 91/93. Glad you're enjoying the modding process & seeing some gains.
Yo who the hell runs 87 on a car like that though wtf?
Little late but does the hellcat blower on a scatpack will it still give you that famous super charger whine ?
I like this route, but I will def make sure my Internals are upgraded, I already have an intake and rip coil packs, more to come🙏
The demon looks mean😊👍
yah I want to see that beast on the dyno!
Funny I was just talking to my wife about doing this 😂🇺🇸🇺🇸
It's not a bad option, the gains are there.
Thks Bro Awesome Video
I appreciate the support
Nice build. I need that blower on my 5.7 :)
I hated the freakin salt in Canada! I love the weather here in SC better! No salt, winter is a LOT better.
That sounds... amazing...
i want to get a scat pack with a hellcat engine in it possibly a redeye, it would be funny to trick people in thinking it’s “jUsT a ScAt” and see the looks on their faces when they get beaten by one lol
also considering the hellcats are coming to an end in production sadly due to that stupid electric poor excuse for an hellcat so it is very possible that hellcats are going to go up in price like crazy if you’re still trying to get one in the near future .
I'd love that on my charger scatpack. But with forged internals. An beefed up trans an rear.
If I was to modify my Challenger I would definitely have to come home to Bay Shore because I don't trust anyone down here in Tennessee!! 😁
I love it,very awesome
it's not a bad option - the gains are certainly there.
Back again. I got the 50 min ad about Gut Connect 365. I could hear it in the back ground, and it was going and going and I was like shut the eff up already, so I clicked over to see how much longer this tool was going to talk, and I still have 40 some odd minutes. So I hit the mute button and let em play.
50 minutes!!!! I wonder how much an Ad like that pays. Thank you for watching those ads & letting them run. Def helping the channel a ton. You the man!!!
Good video👍
Thank you - def appreciate the support
I've watched this vid multiple times. I got a '21 scat I bought new, about 4k on the clock. Warranty holding me back from mods, but I REALLY like the idea of adding a HC blower and tune @6lbs. If I'm correct (not an auto mechanic) this mod would be pretty non invasive and still provide a substantial bump to my scat, correct? How much, all in would I be looking at? I know it depends on the price I hafta give for the sc, but..... $8k?
DEFINITELY do not wanna break ANYTHING. Street fun, maybe a couple track runs.
If you find a blower for about 2 to 3k what they are going for MMX sells the rest of the kit out the door about 7k if you do it yourself if you pay someone plus the tune and the pcm unlock your looking at about 8k to 8500. Make sure you don't go anymore than 8lbs and that's pushing it cause the 6.4s can't handle that much boost that's max. And a killer chiller and meth is a great safety net happy hunting
What's the cost @MMX for adapter and accessories?
A couple grand for hellcat supercharger on ebay.
It's around $3500-4000 for the adaptor kit
That's pretty good numbers for the swap and low boost.
150whp gain ballpark on 6lbs is solid for sure
Now this charger appeals to me...
they’re way nicer than the previous gen
Im a fan of the channel, but no offense. When are you gonna boost your car?? I know you've been talking about it for a while.
The centrifugal or the hellion twin turbos make the most power
I hear you man. This year I chose to pay off my RT so my monthly expenses would go down - which took the $8k I saved for the supercharger. I will get forced air in place beginning 2021. Took me a while to save up again.
@@RTLife smart move! Now u can say that you own the charger in full! Cant wait
Would a 6.4 with some forged drop in pistons and rods, mildly ported stock heads, and either a Hellcat cam or aftermarket cam with a ported Hellcat or ported Redeye supercharger, fuel system to support E85, intake, pullies be a worthwhile swap for the 5.7 in a 2017 Ram?
Stock Transmission on scars isn’t strong enough for any hp above 600. You will eventually blow it. I’d put a hellcat transmission in it with some reinforced engine upgrades, the HC transmission can take up to 1000+ hp Max
I have an Edelbrock Eforce 2650 on my 2018 DD Charger 5.7 R/T making 4.5 PSI with only other mod being 6.4 tubular exhaust manifolds that makes 498/495 wheel. I do not understand why the Edelbrock doesn't get more attention from the Gen3 crowd. I think people want this because it comes from a Hellcat....there are better options out there..
The edelbrock is a solid option - it's pretty efficient with boost. Those are solid results for such limited lbs of boost.
Thanks for the awesome prospective. Watching your channel I think I’m going to stick with
JLT intake
85MM BBk throttle body
Kooks long tube
Comp cam
PCM Unlock Diablo tune
And call it good
You're going to pick up some solid power with those upgrades. Check out @Mackbuilt for a custom grind cam, 5.7 & 392 guys are seeing some solid gains.
only downside is the 6.4 has shiity thin pistons so he might want to get some forged pistons for it so it can handle a higher hp
Definitely a nice option 😈
The 392 is an AMAZING N/A option. I just don't get the desire or need to super charge it. On top of the base price the parts needed to make this work reliability put it way over the cost of a HC. R/T your route makes sence based on where you started. SRT8 or Scatpack guys going this route, I don't get it.
I think most end up upgrading to the Hellcat. A few bolts-ons & most end up trading in. The Hellcat engine is what you want to build off of for big power.
It is the same think 40k for 24k build is like 70k for a hellcat you can get one for 60k a regular not a new one and if you get a new one for 75k with 707hp and end up paying like 90k plus interest unless you pay cash
Because built not bought?? It’s been the way of hot rodding since cars were created
That's waaaaaaay more power than what I would need. I can go for that setup for a weekend driver. At least you know you have the power if you need it.✌️👍
yah this is plenty to have fun with! I bet it's low 11's 1/4 mile
@@RTLife with the right conditions probably high 10's. Ya think? 😅👍
Where is this dude’s located? When i have the money ill be sure to look for him
On a 6.4L like this, what does it really mean to forge it? Just getting forged pistons and rods and throwing them in and you're good to handle more psi?
If your car have less than 30k miles, you can drop in forged internals. If not you have to have your block machined first
@@kendoug5722 wym machined
Whats your opinion on buying a used hellcat blower online? Is it worth the risk and what should I look for when buying it as far as it being a lemon or not? Thanks in advance...
I personally wouldn't do it. It's risky enough seeing it, driving it in person. Many hellcat owners push them hard!
Love it 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Healthy gains
So would you take a whipple or pro charger over the hellcat supercharger?? My plans is to go fbo cammed scat with some type of boost option i was considering the hellcat or pro charger
How did you install it? Does it require any kind of adapter, or is it a perfect fit?
Did the hellcat valve covers bolt right on to the 392 heads or did they need to be modified?
Still own it with my 5.0
Tick tick BOOM
Is there a parts list somewhere of all the misc stuff needed for the swap aside from the obvious the supercharger?
quick question what did you need to install the hellcat blower any adaptors or anything like that?
Sounds decent great modifications though 💯
You would need a hellcat transmission tho , the Scat trans isn’t designed for that much more hp .
I was thinking about doing this as well. What was the cost of everything?
Doesn’t the scat have 485hp?
And the rt 365hp? And with a bigger air box like the trucks have 390 hp? I’m confused as shit
What is that treadmill looking thing called they use I want to watch more videos like that!!!
Best hemi for boost is the 6.1
What can i get the wheels n/a, just internals befor a charger and a price tag?
Damn imagine needing to build your motor at 600hp 😂
Dodge
Same shit with a ss camaro why not a zl1
It’s only 600 cause he hasn’t forged it
Anyone out there ive got a question. I just did a cam install with headers and ported heads. I was wondering if anyone else has a flat spot over 5k rpms. It makes good power then it just stops. Like it should make another 20-30 hp minimum. It is a vvt cam with a phase limiter, should i have gone with a lock out?
That's a cool build but it's sad that a 5.0 with a cold air intake and tune on e85 will gap that 🤦🏾♂️
Listen buddy those 10 speeds aint no joke
Lmfao bro I got a 392 and I beat ‘em you a joke lmao
If you add that to a scat it will beat a 5.0
Does he still have this car and how is the engine holding up?
What will tracking device added Universal.
Ur able put supercharger on stock 392 like fully stock just supercharger?
Whats the oil psi @ lmk extremely interesting