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Imagine if they just hired good writers to tell compelling stories and didn't start shooting until they had the right script.
"Shoot first and ignore questions later" is their policy.
Theyve gotten so comfortable with just shoving somebody's politics into their films that they have almost no concern as to whether it's good or not.
Its kind of amazing but also kind of depressing.
And of course double down, double down, double down is the policy they follow when any criticism is leveled.
That would save $300 million in cost, and probably bring in more at the box office.
That would make sense and Disney has lost all sense. I'm tickled watching them hurl their money into the abyss. :)
Oh man that's just crazy talk, it's only shareholders money 🤑💰
And what if they did. A good writer means nothing when the company he works for has these minority quotas, mandatory hate messages against white people and so on.
What is their writing good for when these movies have a purpose, and it is not giving us what we like.
If you are still paying to watch Disneys slop you deserve what you are getting
I just hate disney now. Everything they make will be seen as divisive as that's what they normalized in their moral compass.
They're a cult now. You are either with them or against them.
I've hated disney since last jedi, and after endgame I absolutely loath them
And somehow it’s the audience’s fault according to Disney
They'll just call anyone who doesn't like the film a racist, sexist, or homophobe, it's getting really boring and predictable at this point.
@@vanillajack5925 ikr
so let me get this straight: we have the evil hulk as the president in this movie, played by 80 year old Harrison Ford, who is supposed to be an allegory for Trump, which is insanely cringe, and the entire movie plot is an allegory for Jan 6th..? Hollywood needs to stop trauma dumping. no one wants to spend $30/ticket for a quippy marvel movie about your privileged psuedo-trauma.
This is going to be the most cringe shit ever
I thought he was playing Biden.
well said
Hollywood, Disney are cucks for the DNC.
Fk Hollywood and the DNC
No amount of reshoots are capable of making Woke bile not smell horribly bad and make the WokeUgly look presentable..
I don't understand how a studio can drop and lose so much money and simply turn away onto the next failed project like nothing ever happened. How are people not fired left and right?
They already fired everyone who knew how to make a movie!😅
Disney never reports financial results for studios, instead all of the studios and much more are rolled into one big bucket. That bucket is not doing g great for quite some time, but Disney is mainly a parks and resorts company, so investors aren’t that sensitive to the movie side of the business. That should explain why Disney (a) has more than enough money to burn (thanks to the parks) and (b) why their failure isn’t triggering immediate reactions.
But it doesn’t fully explain why Disney keeps on feeding billions to Marvel. For that we have to consider the ego of the people involved. Bob Iger praises himself on how good a CEO he is, but the parks were there long before he joined. So what’s his great contribution? Well, he bought Marvel right when it started to become big. Everyone knows that Marvel is the biggest movie franchise ever in terms of box office and that it used to sell merchandise for billions. Bob Iger simply can’t just pull the plug without admitting failure, failure on the one thing he always got praise for.
You can't fire diversity hires.
They fired left and right… mainly right
@@chriswhite2151tell that to the creators of Deadpool and Wolverine and inside out 2 it was chapeks idea but still made by this era which you claim is incompetent so explain how they made these two succsesses then
Question that is puzzling me for years: If disney do several rounds of reshoots and comes out with terrible movies, how bad are first versions of those movies??
Really really really BAD
My guess is it had too many straight white men and was good.
@@ValliantRenegadewhats the possibility that the test screeners were DEI folks n the previous versions were actly bearable, n they didnt make the final cut coz it wasnt ticking the checkboxes?🧐
@@arsyadidris6349 Extremely low, this is following Falcon and the Winter Soldier and they couldn't help having a superhero under Tony Stark's payroll be broke because he's *black,* being profiled by the police and the infamous "you've got to do better" speech, there's no way Captain America 4 wasn't a terrible political mess and they're trying to re-write their way out to be palatable for normal people.
@@Steroyd666 owh crap… i forgot about that. Yeah ur right. They did the checkboxes BEFORE the script, in a matter of speaking😅
I just don’t care about Disney. Hating something means you still have an emotional connection, I am just apathetic to them.
Which is worse when you think about it. It’s hard to win bag ppl who are full of apathy towards your brand
Disney is the most incompetent company if it comes to entertainment in the whole world. Bob , wannabe businessman, Iger will be going in history as the worst CEO of the whole world!
One more time Disney has shown that they can´t handle this business and one more time Bob, the lyer, Iger is convicted of lying: "Quality over quantity" -please, who in the whole world is believe his lies? Oh yeah, the shareholders of Disney who like to burn their millions of money in the same way Disney productions burning their budget to the movies. Between $ 200 and 350 million budget, flashing down the toilet isn´t new for Disney. They´ve done that in the last, several years!
And you are absolutly right. Delaying movies isn´t new either for Disney! How many money has Disney lost in boxoffice last year? It was $ 900 million, nearly $ 1 billion, wasn´t it?!?
Over the last two and a half years, The Walt Disney Company has suffered a loss in value of $192 billion. To put this into perspective, their current value is $165 billion, which means they have lost more than 50% in value.
Disney will be the same, hopefully sooner than later, like the franchises they aqcuired in the last years with Marvel and Lucasfilm, a dead brand! Can´t wait for that!
I will NEVER believe ANYTHING what these clowns of Disney will say to us, the audience! Because it is lie after lie, after lie, after lie. So let the investors going down and losing all their money, in the end they do it by themselves and voted for that crap.
Captain Falcon will be another hilarious WOKE FLOP.
There is only one Captain Falcon and Wilson is not him. Falcon Punch.
Imagine inviting all your non critical friends to a test screening. And they hate it, repeatedly. And you throw another $80m into the production without fixing the fundamental issues. Again.
Disney had every opportunity to make this a good film. It doesn't matter that Falcon took Cap's place, Disney is utterly incapable of keeping themselves out of politics and political messaging.
What made Steve Roger's Captain America stories compelling? First, his allies. Howard Stark, Peggy Carter, Bucky Barnes and the Howling Commandos. Sam Wilson, Natasha Romanoff, Nick Fury and Sharon Carter. Finally a mix of the first two in Civil War. Who does Sam Wilson have?... Nobody, the film is a one man army, literally the opposite of every single Captain America appearance to date. Secondly, Captain America is about leadership and working as a team towards a greater goal even when the odds are stacked against you. They gave Falcon none of that. Not other existing MCU characters or even bothering to bring in new ones. (If the leaks are to be believed)
As for politics... oh boy. Why on earth did they pick Japan as the aggressor. (even under mind control) There are half a dozen made up countries in the marvel universe, why not use one of them? Why not include Wakanda as a sign that, wow this guy is a threat he even managed to trick Wakanda. Or Atlantis, or Latveria, giving Doctor Doom a reason to be angry for upcoming movies. What about former Sokovians who have a bone to pick with the US over the Ultron incident. (cough Zemo cough) Maybe understanding the marvel universe is too hard for the writers, so then why not use a nation that has never been hostile to the US before. That way the viewer understands, oh this would never happen, this mind control must be powerful. No, they decided to invoke WWII imagery. I don't even need to comment on the White House stuff, I'm sure anyone even remotely aware of politics could tell you why that's a bad idea.
The entire movie seems like a front to introduce yet another Young Avenger. Which basically all of Phase 4 & 5 have been, either a Young Avenger or Thunderbolt. Speaking of which, they also use it to introduce Red Hulk and come up with a reason to get him in jail so he can join the rogues of the Thunderbolts. (Which frankly looks a lot more entertaining, if for no other reason than it actually has characters who can interact off each other.) Sam like so many other recent protagonists is becoming a side character in his own film. A plot device to get those other pieces to appear.
The worst part is we already know the same song and dance is coming. Oh the movie failed? "Those bigots sure hate that Sam got the shield." No, they put Sam alone in a movie with nothing significant to do while deliberately making blatant political statements. Bucky or even Steve would be just as disliked in the same scenario. (Tell me Steve thanking Ross for turning himself in would be better from his mouth.) Further, the executives are so incompetent that they have had reshoots more than once because they had a poor plan from the start and lack the willingness or ability to fix it. Personally, I think Sam *should* have the shield because ever since they gave it to him that is all he has been. A shield for Disney to make a grossly over budget, poorly written, unnecessarily political movie. (Following the over budget, slightly better written, unnecessarily political show.)
The bad writing goes beyond that. The Ant Man series was a flop without the messaging. People like the core characters and nobody in this movie is one.
@@orlock20 As far as I know neither of the first two Ant-Man films lost money. Granted they weren't runaway successes like other MCU films but they weren't losses. Ant-Man 3 on the other hand did have messaging, but not only that, like the rest of Phase 4 & 5 had an absurdly high budget.
There is nothing wrong with a story about other characters so long as the budget matches. Regardless of if it is a film or TV show, and frankly with how much Disney+ is costing Disney, at least with film they have a chance of getting a profit. Granted, if they feel the need to do stories for minor characters, they probably should include more minor characters at once like Thunderbolts. At least then you have fans of multiple minor characters watching and not just Sam Wilson fans. They split up Captain America's team, Fury was put in Secret Wars/The Marvels, Yelena was put in Hawkeye/Thunderbolts, Bucky was put in Thunderbolts, Sharon Carter is doing who knows what. Could they have done a Rhodes/Wilson team up? Sure, but they have Rhodey in Armor Wars with Riri.
If nothing else Marvel seems to have forgotten that these movies are plot with future set ups not future set ups with plot. Rather than finding out what is happening with several of the many moving pieces of the MCU, we get another Young Avenger, a set up for Thunderbolts and New Avengers. It's almost funny, Marvel is now doing the very thing that people hated Batman v. Superman for. DC has spent all this time trying to copy Marvel, but now Marvel is copying DC.
@@ThemeParkZilver The first two Ant-Man movies flopped in the domestic box office and were saved by the foreign box office.
What ever happened to making cheap movies that make a few hundred million? Why does everything have to be a supermegaultra blockbuster?
As in gaming, the corporate giants appear to have largely ceded that to indies and smaller studios.
I keep thinking this: you have Thunderbolt Ross as Red Hulk, The Leader and Betty Ross, but the main character is Captain America?! This should’ve been a Hulk movie! Sam Wilson has no connection with the latter two, while Bruce Banner has, especially where Betty is concerned (though it could be awkward trying to explain if there was a falling out with her and Bruce, as he was with Black Widow). Yeah, this just sounds like a mess, and a $400 million one at that.
It sure does sound like they wanted to make a Hulk movie, but they cut out the Hulk because I'm guessing they could only use Thunderbolt, The Leader, and Betty and didn't have enough money left to pay Universal for the Hulk.
I'm just guessing, but I bet we won't see much of Bruçe Banner again and Amadeus Cho will become the new Hulk, since he came along after Disney bought Marvel and Universal won't have any movie rights on him. But that's just a guess
@@samspurgeon4222BINGO
Isn't there still a kerfuffle regarding Universal having half the rights to Hulk? That might be the reason.
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid yup....after the Edward Norton film, I guess Marvel just decided to use Hulk as a side character since that movie wasn't a huge hit even though it had a lot of Phase 1 things in it like Tony telling Thunderbolt about the Avengers and actually seeing Cap on ice. They must get a discount if the movie isn't named The Hulk and he isn't the main character...maybe they could trade She Hulk and a Gamma irradiated character to be named later to Universal for the Hulk lol
You are right, but Iger would of changed it to SHE-HULK, so SHE could kick HIS arse, LOL Either way this will be a Brave New Turd, lol!
Bucky Barnes was injected with the Super-Soldier serum, for years Marvel was clearly setting him up as the next Captain America (following the comics) and then "diversity & inclusion" took over Hollywood.
Sam Wilson has no superpowers at all and would be killed instantly going up against many of Cap's classic enemies.
Let's not play dumb here, Anthony Mackie's Falcon was promoted to the role of Captain America as a diversity hire, period. He didn't earn it and it makes no sense otherwise.
Mackie is GREAT as the Falcon, but he will never be accepted as Captain America by the general public.
Batman seemed to survive fighting Justice League characters. Sure he was able to handle humans as the world's greatest detective, but when he went to the Justice League he was fighting creatures that could one punch the planet.
@@orlock20Batman was mega rich surrounded by the greatest tech, super intelligent, and trained to be one of the greatest martial artists on earth. He wasn't a slub from the air force with average skills.
@@Scooterwithaplan Which is fine against mad scientists and gangs, but when partnered with Superman and Wonder Woman fighting planet conquering aliens that can defeat world armies, he is on the much weaker end.
@@orlock20 Which is why he is usually depicted as the tactician and long term strategist who has planned for a wide array of of hypothetical problems he sees as possibly becoming real. You don't see him trading blows with somebody who can give Superman a problem, unless there is some hidden weakness Batman exploits without needing superhuman powers.
Bucky and Sam both took on the mantle of Capt America in the comics. But I agree, they were definitely setting Bucky up for it for years, and he has the powers for it. It was cringe-worthy watching Sam stopping a truck or whatever in the tv show, when he doesn’t have any powers, and also going up against super soldiers. 🙄
Even Captain falcon in the comics did not do well. The movie makers should reflect the popularity of the comic stories and characters
What actually surprises me most, is that this movie thinks it’s clever to reference the Eternals movie. Really? Marvel didn’t reference the Eternals movie, when it was still supposed to be part of the MCU ongoing plot, because it did so poorly that nobody watched it. But now of all times, Marvel thinks it’s clever to bring back the Eternals plot?
Yes, the rest is bad, but it’s the The Marvels and Quantumania bad we expect by now. That we go back to the Eternals movie, that’s unexpected levels of bad for me.
This movie was DOA when it was first revealed. Everyone and theyr dog knew why that movie even became a thing and what it will be about.
Another movie that nobody asked for in long list of flops in Disney slate last few years.
It should have been the second season of the streaming show. The show was not that hot with the ratings.
Marvel, you've got to do better.
In my field (professional software engineering), we have the concept of “septic code”, which is where the source code of a system under development is so bad that it can’t be reworked into an acceptable delivery. At that point, your only choices are to start over from scratch or kill the whole project.
I think CA4 is the cinematic equivalent of septic code.
It deserves to be in a septic Tank!
This particular Captain America film fails each and every test screenings because they keep asking Hydra members to watch it. And the leaks? Maybe ask the Red Skull about it? Also, hail Hydra.
And we wonder why Disney and all of its studios can't get quality talent for their projects now. They get no names, check box fillers, and has-beens looking for a paycheck.
Disney lacks the talent to create a good story, it took reynolds to pull them out of the crapper, it was not the best story but it was fun and as a fan it did cater to the fans. when they discused the next Deadpool including spiderman I did get excited. when they partner two characters with a huge fan base then the story would not need to be fantastic, It just needs to be fun and offer an escape from reality for 2 hours. The new capt America does not have a large fanbase, and this proves that they have not hired any talented writers.
No joke. We used to get great films and average films from Disney. Now you can count on one hand the great films Disney have produced in the last 6 years while the number of average has risen and a new category of Meh/why does this exist has opened up.
Good thing they got rid of Chris Evans, otherwise this production might have been expensive!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Chris wanted out anyway. They wrapped up his character arc nicely, and I think he saw the signs of what was coming, like the woke diversity garbage. 🤷🏻♂️
They already said this was going to suck. We have a few more ill-invested "phase fivers" left in the pipeline before they can "start fresh". Hopefully they get there in sufficiently good shape 👍.
Huh…naval battle… in the Indian Ocean…with Japan…something here screams Red Dawn remake shenanigans.
I am wondering if Disney is still trying to market in China.
Battleships? The U.S. hasn't had a battleship since the 1990s and Japan hasn't had a battleship since WW2. The scene could be a flashback and that would make sense.
Same. Disney does realize that WW2 is over and that we’ve been allies with Japan for almost 80 years now… right? 🤣
@@orlock20That too lol. Either they plan on using sci fi elements to justify some new sci-fi battleships, someone thinks that “battleship” and “warship” or synonymous, or Disney doesn’t know a thing about modern navies. Sadly, my guess is that 2 and/or 3 are correct.
And the hits just keep on coming from Disney .
On a scale from Joker 2 to the Harris interview last night, how bad do you think it will be? 😂
Interesting unit of measurement 😅😅
Honest Opinion: If this is the movie, Disney ends Marvel. I don't believe Joker 2 ended DC, and I don't believe Harris's interview ended her political career. If Captain Falcon is a social commentary on January 6th, I believe Marvel is a dead brand. And Disney will likely believe losing Reedy Creek is the lesser of two mistakes.
Yes.
Depends on who ends up in the White House- wait, no it doesn’t. If POTUS 45 becomes president, the film will be a laughingstock because it’ll be an insult directed at him and his followers from four years prior. If the current VP becomes president, it’ll still be a laughingstock, but because it’s a perfect match for her brand of leadership.
It will be burdened by what has been.
Captain America 4 has been a not watching or adding to my collection since it was introduced. My mcu collection ends with phase 3, and capt marvel swapped for black widow.
I personally would add No Way Home, Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and Deadpool 3 as worthwhile finales for their respective trilogies, but yes, otherwise phase 4+ imo isn’t worth it.
PS: for personal reasons I skipped Black Widow, but I have been told it’s ok for people that don’t have my issue with it. And it would definitely have made sense to be released instead of Captain Marvel before Endgame (it fits in their, but doesn’t fit in later).
@@davidgantenbein9362 I never considered the Spiderman and Deadpool series to be MCU in any real way, they are in my collection and I watched both in theaters as well. Guardians was more MCU adjacent to me than actual MCU and it is also something that I will add eventually. Black Widow wasn't great, but I like it well enough.
How can they even spend that much? Are they building a whole city to blow up? Yawn, seen it.....
The fact that they're putting (in his first appearance) the Red Hulk in a movie without the actual Hulk tells you everything you need to know about this movie...
So they have to make at least a billion to break even? Good luck with that! I'm guessing maybe 4 to 500 million tops and I'm being very generous.
Not even close. I estimate 200-300 worldwide, and it might even be lower than that.
@@scubasteve2189 you understand I put very generous, right?
Another day and another dose dismal Disney. This movie sounds like another Frankensteinian disaster by Disney/Marvel. This movie will need to make over a billion dollars in order to break even. They've had a number of opportunities to "fix" CA4 and still couldn't pull it off. If this movie is the beginning of the course correction, I hate to what the rest of it looks like. I expect the anti-marketing campaign at any moment.
Again:
Steve Rogers is Captain America
Sam Wilson is the Falcon
Bucky Barnes is the Winter Soldier
Stop the bs mantle passing!
Anytime the Mcu channels it’s Dave Filoni they fail, this movie is the purest I don’t have any thing to follow and my creative team is lost
Get Woke, Go Broke - It's simple.
Captain America isn’t just some plastic suit and shield you can put on and become him. Its the man in the suit that makes him Captain America. Its not about the color of his skin or what checkboxes he fits. This guy isnt Captain America. First whats his super power? He can carry someone elses shield? He has no super strength. He isnt s mutant. He’s a DEI hire filling in for a retired super hero. Theres nothing super about this guy. Boring.
The sad part is people liked Anthony Mackie and Falcon 5 or 10 years ago, whatever it was
He's the right color!
Sam is captain America in the comics. So saying he’s just put the costume on and now he’s captain America is the dumbest thing ever. Maybe read the comics first. It helps
Yeah , everyone is not gonna be a comic book reader
Also if u wanna go that way the comics also flopped btw
@@lalaboi5526 doesn’t matter. It’s canonically accurate that Sam is captain america. If the movie is bad then it’s just bad but don’t make the argument that Sam as Cap is a DEI thing when he’s been Captain America for almsot 10 years now.
Iger should resign as captain of this sinking ship-but he won’t til he’s done lining his pockets with every dollar he can.
The fact that this film is loaded with many characters from the “Incredible Hulk”-and is supposedly a “political thriller” like “Winter Soldier” tells you why it’s tanking.
True. Getting the leader as villain and he isn’t fighting against Hulk hurts my comic book heart. And once again Marvel skips like 50 years of history to fast forward to Red Hulk.
What you just described is the plot of a 32 page, bi monthly comic book issue that costs 25k to manufacture and will gross 100k if it sells out. It takes 10 minutes to read. Great business inside that parameter. Anything outside that is crazy. But na, it' ll be fine.
"Why he talked disney's movie committee into the costliest fiasco of all time! And refused to admit failure!"
Harry Booth on Bob Eiger
This is a textbook example of the sunk cost fallacy. There is no way Disney is going to make a profit on this film.
Deadpool and Wolverine is the last good Marvel flick we'll get for a long time and the last FOX movie ever made😔
Is it just me or does the audio seem just a little off? Like there's a miniscule delay between his lips and the audio?
Hope the crew are all on hourly rates.
Holy crap, that summary sounded like the hour mark for an actual set up for the climax. With who as the villain I still don't know, but wow. Disney moved on from making movies and seasons to set up the next to making movies to set up the second half of the movie.
Ain’t much there
Batman and Robin doesn’t look that bad now, right?
You know what screw it and throw beast in it. Maybe they’ll get a few bucks back like the Mervels
Valliant, help us promote a movie that doesn´t suck... Transformers One is struggling out there.
I am so done with this shi t show from Disney that I will not be watching it!
"Re-recordings"...sounds like burning money 2.0!
The problems with this film definitely cannot be solved this way.
Problem 1: Steve Rogers is Capt. America...that will never change.
Problem 2: The incompetent idiots who made that horrible Falcon/Wintersoldier series...also made this movie, brilliant idea letting these guys make a movie (hahaha)...how stupid can you actually be?
Problem 3: Disney turns their own shitty ideas into films that OF COURSE no one wants to see. There are hundreds of awesome comics from the 60s/70s/80s that have millions and millions of fans. Maybe a few thousand (worldwide) want to see this Disney/Feige garbage... Millions upon millions would want to see the real old Marvel!
If Disney continues this "course of super stupid madness" there will soon be no more Disney. And maybe that would be better!😞
Damn. I had heard a rumor they were making a white woman cap after only giving Falcon one film. That would have been hilarious in film and the woke backlash as well
This sounds like all those Olympus has Fallen type movies from 10+ years
Just get a tax write-off 😅😅😅😅
With all the repeated major project delays, wouldn't you think Disney might get the hint that something is not working right in their organization?
How can Disney continue to burn money?
The traditional formula is that marketing spent is equal to production. Does that formula still stand when dealing with films in reshoot purgatory?
That depends on how extensive the reshoots are, since major changes will require additional duplication of costs (recutting new trailers, setting up new info dumps in the trades, and additional promotional expenses).
Disney Marvel... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
🫥Are you serious?
Apparently
I actually really liked Falcon and the winter soldier show and your telling me that Brave new world is not a duo movie with Bucky then it’s trash and I won’t watch it all I wanted was a buddy cop movie with the two and they get even give me that smh
As Gary calls it Captain African-American
Just write if off for the tax benefit. No one ever wanted this and it will NEVER come close to making it's money back.
Profit margins? Who needs em lol
Apparently not disney
Basically they start with radical left wing messaging. Then they look at it and know good and well its awful and not what people want. Step 2, reduce left wing messaging and hope substance emerges from it. Step 3, after realizing no substance has emerged, then they try to shoehorn in franchise nostalgia that they can reinterpret as supporting the radical left wing messaging. Step 4, ask their media allies to insult and attack the traditional audience in hopes to shame them into paying for the movie.
Adjusted for inflation, Cleopatra (1963) cost $320M in today's $$.. a film w/ 79 physical sets, 26,000+ costumes, 1,000s of extras
Fast-forward to 2024, Dizney can't make a live-action cartoon remake (that only features 10 characters!) for that same amount
Great point
wait--so the plot involves a conflict over Adamantium, not Vibranium? Is that a minor x men reference being suggested, or a normie leaker confusing technobabble between movies?
Given the battle happens around the dead Celestial, it could make sense that they introduce Adamantium, now that they own all X-Men rights again. So imo at least possible that it’s not an error by the leaker.
who is greenlighting these scripts? ..... and who is writing these scripts?
If I was in charge of this film I would cut my losses and run. Reshooting again would be throwing bad money after bad. It is obvious management cannot ascertain what a good script looks like so either the writers are DEI hires (Didn't Earn It) and are completely useless and clueless OR the director is terrible and no matter how good the script is he or she is ruining it. Either way, no one at the top seems to be able to determine where the issue lies so I would fire the person that is in charge on the board, the producer, the director, and the writers then just throw the project in the trash.
"The Critic" theme plays loudly in the background. 😂
*It stinks*
I'll start buying Disney stock at 55🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sam is no hero, he hasn’t been genetically modified
Neither has Scott Lang, Hope Van Dyne, Tony Stark, Rhodey, Peggy Carter, Sharon Carter, Hawkeye, Black Widow (technically, they semi changed that in Black Widow movie ), the entire Howling Commandos, and several others. Sam is a soldier, just like Rhodes, and the commandos. In the real world I qualify that as a hero by default. (though some may disagree)
Don't let Disney and their shills distract you. The movie won't fail because Sam has the shield. The movie is going to fail because it's cost is approaching record levels, even without any other obstacles it will need to clear a billion just to break even. Something it will struggle to do because the plot is so awful no one will recommend it or see it twice. (Steve Rogers couldn't save it.) Disney *wants* people to blame Sam and the media will repeat this, that way the incompetent executives that let this happen get to get away consequence free. (All while dodging the fact that they knowingly green lit a movie that deliberately attacks one of the US's two major political parties. IE. Roughly 50% of the US adult population.)
*Edit: Spelling*
@@ThemeParkZilver granted, all the characters you mentioned started somewhere, but Sam is not at the same level as them. Shame he isn’t a superhero that will apparently lead the new avengers team.
The shills don’t work on me, like the paid media bowing to these companies pumping out garbage.
Ironically it’s Disney that has to ‘step up and do better’
@@ThemeParkZilver it will absolutely fail because Sam has the shield. Not even blks want to see a captain America race swap.
Japan is NOT going to like this!
Why does this sound like a crappier version of Debt of Honor? Like that's what came to me when listening to the part about US and Japanese ships fighting each other lol.
Cap4: NWO will make less money that Joker 2. This plot will keep everyone away. Everyone.
I don’t think it will be THAT bad but it won’t be good
/@@ValliantRenegade/ if it's not coming from the (MCU"), as far as the "budget go, everything else is all "rumours", you guys should be checking y'all sources, don't just be reporting anything, .....so you assuming the (Budget is $375 million), come on man!!
I hate what Disney became particularly under Bob Igner. The only way to fix this rot is for Disney to go bankrupt and be sold off. Hopefully bought up by Elon Musk.
Very Unlikely unless it becomes way way way cheaper
@@ValliantRenegade Well going back a few years, no one gave thought about Elon buying up Twitter either.
Can you imagine what Ryan Reynolds could do with half a billion pounds budget?
Disastrous test screenings started with the fact that Marvel/Disney is making a Captain America movie that doesn't feature Captain America. Nobody ever wanted to see this. Steve giving it to a guy he hadn't known for all that long and who was not a super soldier was DEI. Bucky & Steve were best friends pre-war and ended up fighting alongside Cap with the Howling Commandoes until Bucky was presumed to have been killed in combat, but was captured by the enemy and successfully experimented on in their attempt to re-create the super soldier formula. After Wakanda deprogrammed and rehabilitated "The White Wolf", Bucky would be the only legit choice to carry the Shield.
Grew up on Marvel comics. When my Dad bought home the second issue of Spiderman, i was hooked. Read comics until mid 70s when i got to 1000$ a month & had to quit. What i've seen of those things now, i wouldn't spend a nickel on them any more. Another childhood dream that's dead & buried.
I remember a day not too long ago, when studio execs would threaten to pull a plug on a movie for cost overruns...and that was for GOOD movies being created by GREAT directors. The axe seemed to always be hovering. Now Disney drops bottomless amounts of cash on uncertain properties made by relatively unknown directors. What the hell is happening?!?
SMH. What ABSOLUTE TRASH.
No matter how good the story is, no one can truly replace Steve Rogers as Captain America-he embodies the spirit of the WWII “Greatest Generation” of Americans. That should have been the core message of the story. A narrative that contrasts those values with today’s society-where a corrupt government influences people to undermine the morals, ethics, and beliefs of that era-would resonate deeply.
As the story concludes, there’s uncertainty about whether America can endure. Then, from behind, we see a figure that resembles Cap. He approaches his shield lying on the ground after a battle, does the signature move to kick it up into his arm, and as the camera zooms out, a red-haired woman stands next to a tall blonde man. It appears to be Steve Rogers and Black Widow from an alternate Earth, choosing to stay on ours, arriving just when they are needed the most.
This twist would make Captain America 4 a blockbuster, and Captain America 5 a guaranteed hit.
Woke power did it again! Just give us blade with Wesley snipe and make it 18 pls
Why doesn’t Disney just focus on putting out a few new animated movies, normal animated movies with just normal characters, nothing divisive. It’s like Disney is trying to see how many billions of dollars they can throw away.
How to salvage something, recut the movie leaving out the best expensive action sequences. Work them into something else. Willow the remaining movie for tax offset.
I still feel Nightcrawlers attack on the Whitehouse was one of the best opening scenes ever.
HOW .....HOW .....HOW.....HAS THE MARVEL LINE GONE FROM END GAME ....TO THIS
Make it a musical. That will just print money.
How bad does a film have to be, that at preview screenings there are two different cuts of the film, presumably the version with the best test score might get released. The only way Captain America 4 will make money is it Chris Evans plays Steve Rogers/Captain America once again, maybe Avenging the death of American Falcon at the hands of the Red Hulk. Dear Marvel please feel free to use any of all of my suggestion!
Yea, Disney/Marvel isn't getting a dime from me until significant change in leadership happens, if ever again.
Imagine if they just gave us the stories from the comic's prime years. Imagine if they just recast as actors age out, like when the comics change artist. Imagine, when they made changes they were not entirely predictable to service an agenda. Imagine.
“This is why we wrapped on Superman a year before release and why they’ve been hard at work on many shots for months before that,” Gunn posted on Threads on August 18. “This is why we start heartily editing during the shoot. It’s why I prepare so vigorously and why we only shoot finished screenplays. And Supergirl, which I’m not directing, is being handled the same way. I can’t praise the VFX artists that help us create magic enough.”
“If you do some research you’ll see my films have always taken a different approach and I’ve always given my VFX artist-collaborators time to do their jobs properly, and the respect they deserve,” Gunn wrote over the weekend. “And the quality of the VFX in those films is uniformly great because of it (and because my friends at Weta and Framestore and ILM and more are amazingly talented).”
This makes me feel warm and fuzzy. LOL. Anthony is a good actor shame he didn’t tell Disney to F off. Don’t even know if he is a wokeite but probably is . After all it’s Hollywood baby 😅
Last Captain America i watched was the original. Think I'll stop there.
My expectations were low.. but holy F
It's "The Marvel Method"!
I've also heard that it's become standard for MCU movies to plan for at least 3 months of reshoots following the 'end' of initial principal photography... I guess they had to start accounting for potentially extensive reshoots in the actor's contracts, to ensure they'd have to be available when things inevitably need to be changed following early test screenings.
Will it be more difficult for Marvel to secure 'A-List' talent when the actors need to agree to remain available for like TWO YEARS whenever signing onto an MCU project?
Or I guess some actors don't care, as long as Marvel PAYS them whatever they could expect to earn by booking other jobs over the extended production schedule? I know they're all 'serious artists, but I imagine someone like Anthony Mackie is probably happy not having to worry about landing another job since the whole Captain America 4 debacle started! lol
So, with anything they could have used, they didn't delve into the geopolitical setup of Earth full of registered superheroes now, the ability to introduced foreign superheroes from the comics (natural diversity), the militarization and politization of the superhero community with the Wakandans and the Avengers and others openly fighting major battles against a foreign actor in Thanos, the shattered public image of the Anerican superheroes not only fighting each other, but also bringing a galactic threat to Earth's doorstep and half of everyone dying and being brought back just to find a changed, depressed world that moved on without them? So literally NONE of that will be addressed? Are these creatives not aware of the storytelling possibilities at their fingertips?
Never mind the Hydra infiltration, and the targeting of civilians with those new, upgraded Helicarrier variants from the previous movies or the fact that SHIELD operated within foreign airspace or that we have Asgardians on Earth that pose the same issues that made Wakanda hesitant to allow others into its borders (others bring their problems and issues with them that the host planet has to deal with, in the case of the Asgardians, Hela and her attack on the new Asgardian town)?
Anyone else getting really tired of "new villain played by Giancarlo Esposito"?
Disney was reinvigorated by Deadpool and Inside Out 2. People should just stop going to all its movies, period.
Well, Captain "Affirmative Action" isn't getting a dollar from me.
500 million for Captain America 4 with NO star power??? Wow. Are they going to just hand out flyers a Disney World to save on marketing?
The show Falcon and the Winter Soldier was preachy too...I quit watching when Falcon said something to the effect of "America wouldn't want a black Captain America"
Isn't this the part where Disney calls everyone racist and sexist now?
Man what happened to the good old days when marvel movies were fun and entertaining with balance.
The Leader is a risky villain. I grew up reading Hulk comics and I like the Leader. But if my wife walked in the room and saw the Leader in a movie, she would immediately disgustedly say, "Stupid" and walk out. The Red Hulk vs Captain America is a good idea, but how long can that fight scene last?