We just tried the oil modified poly and wow. What the hell we were wasting time with the full on poly. We were getting plaugued with dust or some kind of cross contamination with the oil. First coat took a while to fill in. The second coat was dry so quick. Since it dried so fast sanding was quick. We had to really scrub with oil. Something we half assed looked awesome . Just going to see if we can do this with a earlex or try brushing it. I don't think it's possible to brush and keep it consistent . It requires a thin coat which might be impossible with brushing and maintaining mini production of a ton of moulding without taking all day
Glad it works for you! The main reason I use it is for the dry time. I can get 3 coats in a day vs 8+ hours per coat with oil 🤷🏼♂️ and the water based is plenty durable for my needs. I personally spray everything because of the quantity I do but I’ve had decent luck brushing it on small items
@@TwoMooseDesign true. But I feel it will be impossible to keep it consistent brushing . plus You sanded so lightly . With oil We had bubbles all over the place. I'ma try spraying tomorrow the oil modified tomorrow. . But wow. I can't believe how good the finish is with a foam brush like you did. Have you tried it with an earlex machine before ? I hope it's powerful enough.
@@shahsmerdis it should be a plenty powerful! I haven’t used an entry level spraying in a while. I used a Wagner for a while with a different water based poly
I see many folks asking about the aircap set used, it's a 1.3. Fuji color codes the caps, silver is 1.3, blue is 1.0, green is 1.8, etc. I'm about to go attempt to finish my cabinets with oil based poly, this video being one of my influences.
The 1.3 and 1.0 will work for most film finishes. You got this! Takes a little trial and error to dial it in. I’d play around with a couple scraps to first but shouldn’t be too bad
@@TwoMooseDesign Couple things I've learned, spraying cabinets uses a lot of poly and I bought the small 3M cups, and second, don't unscrew the cup from the gun when it's upright. It's so obvious once the finish is running down the gun and your hand onto the floor. Also, doing this in my dim garage not a good idea. Very hard to see. I have a Q5 and I am using about 80% of the power, just a random guess.
I like your spray finishing set-up Jef. Here's a few comments to help your audience out: 1. get into the habit of always straining finishes as you pour them into your gun cup (or reservoir) - even if there's a built-in strainer (PPS, for instance) - to filter out any impurities or loose dried fleck of finish which could spoil your finish. 2. if you're spraying a waterborne finish NEVER use a tack cloth, as they contain oil-based solvents which will cause fish eyes and affect the bonding of the next coat. 3. raising the piece you're spraying at least 15cm (6") above your spray table will limit finish bounce-back and make it easier to get your hands underneath the piece to flip it over. 4. until you're as experienced as Jef or Jess and can visually check as you go along, use a wet film gauge to confirm the thickness of the coat you're spraying. As a general rule of thumb, most finish manufacturers suggest each coat be between 3 and 5 mils (.003" - .005") in thickness... but it's always a good idea to check what the manufacturer states on their website. 5. keep your hose from kinking (especially important where it connects to the turbine), as that may cause overheating of your turbine and result in premature motor failure. That's why the manufacturer suggests placing the turbine on the floor.
Thanks for all the info! And taking the time to write it 😁 all amazing tips 🙌🏼 I’ll have to come up with some new lifter blocks mine are getting cruddy anyway
I thought the PPS system already has a built in filter so you never have to filter it before putting it into the cup. It's designed that way to save you the step of pre-filtering.
@@saritsotangkur2438 you are absolutely correct, Sarit. However, I have continued the practice of pre-straining any finish that goes into my spray system's cup or pressure pot reservoir because that was what we did when I first got into spraying over 30 years ago. It is another step which takes me less than a minute to do and gives me peace of mind that I will never have to contend with a clogged PPS strainer cap. And they can become clogged, especially if you're using waterbased finishes such as I do most of the time.
@@saritsotangkur2438 it does. He’s saying that you should filter it anyway and be better safe than sorry so no contaminants get in the finish. You don’t have to filter it with the pps system just and extra step to be safe but you are correct it does have a built in filter and you technically don’t have to filter it at all just pour it in. 🤷🏼♂️
Hey Jeff. Thank you so much for the video man! It was hugely informative. I started my Etsy shop back in April and it’s been doing really well(DairyBarnWoodworking). One thing I’ve been struggling with is spraying finish(I prefer Lacquer). I just have a cheap HVLP connected to a compressor that’s too small. I just ordered the HVLP Fuji sprayer, 3M cups, mixer lids, etc from your affiliate links so I hope you get a decent kick back. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge man. Take care, Travis.
Great tips - love the example of not enough verses nice and glassy. haven't seen many examples like this - unfortunately i learned most of this the hard expensive way .
I really enjoy your content this video pushed me over the finish line to pull the trigger on a mini mite 3. It has worked gloriously. Thanks again. I do have a question. What air cap set are you using to spray those two different brands of poly. Thanks again in advance
Thank you very much very well explained, I just purchased Fuji Q5 ,Can you spray latex? And if yes, what type of nozzle would you recommend for cabinet doors?
Great video! Only the pertinant facts that answer my questions! Some other videos by some others are painful to watch lol😂This video is informative, clean and interesting!😊👍👍
I have a Fuji spray system and refinish stairs and cabinets. Was always wondering about the pressure pot addition and it makes sense after your video.Looking forward to watching more of your videos and I am now a subscriber😊🤛👍
@@johngoudie6676 if your spray more than a few cups it’s amazing. They make a larger one that is 2 gallons? And you can set a gallon pail inside it. Thanks! I appreciate it 🙌🏼
Really appreciate the video! Very thorough and well articulated. Was planning on buying the MiniMite4 for some cabinet work, and certainly appreciated your tips!
I’ve built a small 10’x12’ dedicated spray booth in my wood shop. I will be getting an HVLP setup like the Fuji Semi Pro 2 and wondering about overspray? Will I need a dedicated exhaust fan? Or will opening the window be enough? Possibly putting a fan in the window with filter? I think I would be spraying poly, lacquer and latex paint. Thank you for your help.
Great intro to spraying video, well done. I’ve been looking at the Fuji units to upgrade my spray game. I really like the fan pattern you are laying down, much better than my current setup. Thanks to this video I foresee another charge on my credit card next month. Thanks a lot!!!!
Rich Stephens thanks I really appreciate it! And yesss I had a few entry level systems and the adjustability in the more expensive systems is sooooo nice
Two Moose Design I started out with a turbine gun 30 years ago and basically wore it out. I’ve been through about 4 compressor hvlp guns since then and am no longer happy with the results. Time for a upgrade.
Rich Stephens oh man that sucks...I’ve always wanted to try an actual compressor set up but I ended up gravitating to the hvlp turbine units because they are so dang convenient lol
Have never sprayed paint before, looking to invest correctly. I like the idea of the top mount 3m pps for small jobs and clear coats, as well as the external 2qt pot for large jobs and paint. Would a t75g gun cover both uses well? I noticed the hose on your gun for the 2qt pot was a bottom hose mount... is that for hose management only, or something else?
@@TwoMooseDesign I’ve never used any turbine. I’ve always sprayed with my 60 gallon compressor but never anything as large as what i just finished. I’m exploring several options. Either getting into a turbine or spraying lacquer.
@@TwoMooseDesign yes. Didn’t really know about that. I don’t typically paint my pieces. Especially anything that large. Usually I’m using a hard wax oil to finish.
@@dimensionswoodworks definitely try it out. ive used it a few times and it works pretty good. depends on the application but worth a shot! and same i prefer the more natual lookin finishes as well!
Great video. On the PPS system, those liners crinkling up were always a problem until I realized you can suck the air out of the cup and they will straighten out. This makes storing or emptying partially filled liners much easier. No risk of getting any paint in your mouth. What air cap set were you using?
I just bought the semi-pro 2 and hope I made the right decision as far as getting the right Fuji model… I’m just a hobbyist as of now and not on your level! But you explained it well! I like that 3m set up too. When you spray on stain, do you condition the wood prior to staining? Assuming you still wipe after staining? Thanks!
Hey! Depends on the wood whether I use conditioner or not. And yes I do wipe the stain. GF makes stain you can spray on and don’t have to wipe but requires a special touch to get nice even color
Cool video, what needle size are you using and do you thin the finish. Love the upgrade pot, I am going to get that for my Fuji gun. Your video was a pleasure to watch.
Thanks a lot for the video. Great info - that was as informative as you are hot. Love your attitude; if only more folks would know that levity is a more fun way of being serious.
You ever spray precat white lacquer (for like cabinets). Friend wants me to build some built ins for them. I built my own and sprayed them with a white latex using a Graco airless. I ended up with a really good finish but dang it was hard and there was a huge learning curve. I’ve been told spraying lacquer is much much easier. I’m thinking of investing in a 4 stage Fuji so I can do this. Thoughts? (Thanks for the video - it was great)
For topcoats a Fuji with a turbine will be waaay more efficient. Also was it a water based product? I sprayed water based pre cat for about a year and eventually switched back to poly because the lacquer was more sensitive than poly and had a few small issues I didn’t have with poly
@@TwoMooseDesign I’ve never sprayed lacquer or poly because I only have a handheld graco airless. On my cabinets I sprayed SW ProEnamel white paint. I actually got a great finish but it was a HUGE pain. I want something more fool proof, which is why I thought a white precat lacquer would be good. You think a white poly would be even better? I thought lacquer because of the really fast drying times. Then again I don’t know much about it. I’m a novice at spraying. I just want a super smooth white finish that’s way easier than spraying the white ProEnamel paint. I should also note that I want a really durable finish as well. Built ins will be in a house with two little boys. Lol
I don’t recall lol neither machine is very loud. I can hear my radio over both machines. The graco is just nice because of the auto on and off feature. I’d say they are as loud as a vacuum cleaner?
@@TwoMooseDesign checked out your Etsy store - lots of cool stuff. Going to check out the Instagram page also. Looks like people are interested in buying, appears there was several backlog items - may have misread the information. Pretty new to Etsy, Instagram, and the social media scene. Not sure how a small handcrafted shop can keep up with the demand that may be placed on it if their products become real popular. Hope you are able to keep up with the demand after people start watching your videos and figure out who you are. Best of luck.
Rob Sandstrom we definitely get our butts kicked in keeping up! Good problems to have lol and yes we temporarily discontinue items when we are behind. Thanks for checking us out we appreciate it
I have not but I believe it’s a smaller system. Which won’t matter much if you mostly spray top coats then it’s plenty. If you plan to spray a ton of paint I’d probably lean towards one of the larger models.
I also spray the general finishes with the pps system and appreciate all of your tips and the way you’ve got a very smooth system going there. The video and all the comments are really helpful. I was always curious if anyone was spraying oil modified poly successfully and now I know. Thanks
the pps 3m system is a game changer! I lay it right on the table flat and it doesn't leak. The plastic cups that come with it have to be like perfectly clean, the graco was the same way they wear out way to fast.
Yep a board with screws in it. I beat down the points a tiny bit, and for the most part they are wet. They sit for a minute or two then I flip them. If your careful you don’t see any marks.
@@MoniGhaleyDIY you bet! If it seems like your getting a lot of little bubbles and you already lowered your air output try the smaller needle.The 1.3 that comes with it does great for most top coats.
I received the package last week. I haven’t even opened it yet. Tomorrow I’m spraying my bed. I’m Definitely going to use your tips from the video. This is my first HVLP spray gun. I’ll let u know if anything goes south. I hope not tho. Thank you!!
can ya tell us what size cap and fane setting i'm spraying nitrocellious laquar on guitars with the fuji q5 just got it just trying to get in the ball park settings
I would start with a 1.0 cap and needle and if it feels like it’s not pushing out enough material hope upto a 1.3 needle. Those two are all you need for everything but like paint and thicker materials
Looking to do some wood finishing, interior and exterior painting. Would I save money without compromising quality by purchasing a compressor, pressure pot, a conventional gun & HVLP gun instead of purchasing an airless paint sprayer unit and a fuji hvlp unit?
When you are passing over the top, maintaining a nice 90 degree angle to the wood...how are you adequately getting the vertical walls on top side edges?
I have same machine and gun but the cup that came with is too small what the name of your cup to buy it? Cuz I see your gun is like mine but you change the top cup
I've started using the oil modified poly after watching this video. I usually spray outside with a Fuji Q5 and get great results, but now that it's gotten colder, I've moved into my garage and I keep getting an orange peel like effect as I spray. I'm thinking it's temp/humidity related (as I've already checked the usual causes of orange peel) since temp/humidity are the only variables that have changed. Have you ever had an issue like this? What, if anything do you do in the winter months for climate control in your spray room? Thanks
Our shop is climate controlled. But I did have issues with lacquer in the past. I added extender to product so it wouldn’t dry as fast in the low humidity. I know general finishes makes a water based dry time extender which is what I used with the lacquer. I haven’t had the issue with oil modified but it sounds like a similar issue.
I also run a small heater in the finishing room as it gets super cold here. I’ll also start running a humidifier around this time as the humidity falls off a cliff lol I try and keep the temps around 65-70 and humidity at around 40-50.
For spraying large horizontal surfaces like a table top, which type is better, gravity or siphon? Or will both have constant supply of finish flowing to the nozzle?
Really good video. Looking for my first sprayer, hobbyist woodworker, I'm between the Wagner Control Pro 130 and the Fuji Semi Pro 2. I know the Fuji is better but its twice the price.
I’d say it depends on what you plan on spraying most. The wager appears to be an airless sprayer which has the ability to spray thicker paints and the semi pro 2 might struggle a little with thick latex paints. If you plan on spraying mostly top coats like poly I’d definitely go with the Fuji. I personally don’t know anything about the Wagner I just Google it 🤷🏼♂️ I’m not sure how well it will lay down poly and what not since it’s designed to paint houses essentially 😬 either way you’ll love having a sprayer!
@@TwoMooseDesign Gotcha. Basically just sick of rolling paint and cleaning brushes. Want to be able to throw a coat of primer, paint, or topcoat onto whatever project I need some paint on, cabinet, shelf, wall, etc. Would be nice to be able to touch up the exterior white sealer on the concrete block foundation and that stuff is super thick.
@@bilmcgee8494 I would go with the airless sprayer 👍🏼 I like water based products makes clean up way easier you pretty much just spray water and a touch of soup through it
Thanks! I apply 3 coats and allowing them to dry per the finish manufacturers instructions. So for me it’s about 3 hours between coats. I do not do anything after the last coat I will occasionally hit them with like 320 by hand very lightly if I have a few specks in the finish. Also before I ship them I wipe them down with a wood cleaner/wax to make sure they are dust free!
How many coats of water based poly could you get on a 4x8 sheet of plywood with a 600cc cup using a mini mite 3 or 4? I'd like to have an idea of the coverage from these cup guns before i buy one. I've never sprayed.
Great intro for new sprayers! This was so beneficial! Like your tips and tricks and the upgrades! It looks like you use Brad nails to hold the handles/sides of the tray together. Does that seem to have any issues with the spray poly?
@@TwoMooseDesign it’s fantastic but boy these are tricky for sure. The paint dries so fast it doesn’t have time to lay down smooth. I bought some additive that will help slow down the drying time and a piece of glass to practice on. Hopefully I will be a pro by the end of the day. Lol. It’s nothing like the 3 other sprayers I have. Again, thanks for the video.
Ummm probably the mini mite 4 platinum or larger with a gravity fed cup 😬 I’ve never painted a car so I’d probably reach out to Fuji prior to purchase just to be sure, they are pretty helpful
New subscriber here, first thanks for the great video! 🍻🍻 I'm looking to getting into hvlp spraying as of now I do new interior home finish (the trim work, laying the flooring when needed and all the interior painting) but have a fair amount of requests for other odds n ends and cabinet painting so I've been researching different hvlp spraying units. As of now I'm leaning towards a T75G Q5. I have a Graco airless for the work I do now, but haven't researched their hvlp sprayers as of yet, any info or comparisons you may have will be much appreciated! Also any extra pointers or tips for someone just getting into hvlp spraying are appreciated too of course. Thanks again for the informative video and anytime you may have for input! Again...👍👍🍻
The q5 is a great option! We have the graco 9.5 pro contractor as well they are both very similar. The main difference is the graco has an auto on/off feature which the Fuji does not. You will be more than happy with either system! I have links to them in the description! Thanks for subscribing we appreciate it!
@@TwoMooseDesign hey thank you very much for your reply and very quick at that!!!! And for the info... I really not sure which way to go, but I do have to do more research on the Graco.
I sprayed on old masters interior water based gloss finish… it’s leaving bubbles here and there but enough that I have to sand and re-coat the table top again…. Do you have any suggestions? Should it be thinned a little bit? What am I doing wrong? Thanks!!!
Hey! I don’t know anything about your set up or that finish but typically a bunch of bubbles is too much air. So I would use a smaller tip or try to use less air flow. You could also try an extender which will slow the curing process and give it more time to level out and pop bubbles.
It depends on the gun 🤷🏼♂️ I can only go so in-depth and keep people interested. I do my best. Also everyone is different. Some people move faster than others so you may need more fluid than me
Dude, where is your mask??? I've been spraying for over 40 years and started out like you are doing...you'll pay for it later in life...got to have a good respirator or a spray booth...don't care what you're spraying, it's a slow killer.
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We just tried the oil modified poly and wow. What the hell we were wasting time with the full on poly.
We were getting plaugued with dust or some kind of cross contamination with the oil.
First coat took a while to fill in. The second coat was dry so quick. Since it dried so fast sanding was quick. We had to really scrub with oil.
Something we half assed looked awesome .
Just going to see if we can do this with a earlex or try brushing it. I don't think it's possible to brush and keep it consistent . It requires a thin coat which might be impossible with brushing and maintaining mini production of a ton of moulding without taking all day
You mentioned you used this with the earlex. ? How did that work out ?
Glad it works for you! The main reason I use it is for the dry time. I can get 3 coats in a day vs 8+ hours per coat with oil 🤷🏼♂️ and the water based is plenty durable for my needs. I personally spray everything because of the quantity I do but I’ve had decent luck brushing it on small items
@@TwoMooseDesign true. But I feel it will be impossible to keep it consistent brushing . plus You sanded so lightly . With oil We had bubbles all over the place.
I'ma try spraying tomorrow the oil modified tomorrow. . But wow. I can't believe how good the finish is with a foam brush like you did.
Have you tried it with an earlex machine before ? I hope it's powerful enough.
@@shahsmerdis it should be a plenty powerful! I haven’t used an entry level spraying in a while. I used a Wagner for a while with a different water based poly
@@TwoMooseDesign thanks !!!!! I really appreciate it.!!!
I see many folks asking about the aircap set used, it's a 1.3. Fuji color codes the caps, silver is 1.3, blue is 1.0, green is 1.8, etc. I'm about to go attempt to finish my cabinets with oil based poly, this video being one of my influences.
The 1.3 and 1.0 will work for most film finishes. You got this! Takes a little trial and error to dial it in. I’d play around with a couple scraps to first but shouldn’t be too bad
@@TwoMooseDesign Couple things I've learned, spraying cabinets uses a lot of poly and I bought the small 3M cups, and second, don't unscrew the cup from the gun when it's upright. It's so obvious once the finish is running down the gun and your hand onto the floor. Also, doing this in my dim garage not a good idea. Very hard to see. I have a Q5 and I am using about 80% of the power, just a random guess.
Thanks for the great info! You’re trays look great
I like your spray finishing set-up Jef. Here's a few comments to help your audience out:
1. get into the habit of always straining finishes as you pour them into your gun cup (or reservoir) - even if there's a built-in strainer (PPS, for instance) - to filter out any impurities or loose dried fleck of finish which could spoil your finish.
2. if you're spraying a waterborne finish NEVER use a tack cloth, as they contain oil-based solvents which will cause fish eyes and affect the bonding of the next coat.
3. raising the piece you're spraying at least 15cm (6") above your spray table will limit finish bounce-back and make it easier to get your hands underneath the piece to flip it over.
4. until you're as experienced as Jef or Jess and can visually check as you go along, use a wet film gauge to confirm the thickness of the coat you're spraying. As a general rule of thumb, most finish manufacturers suggest each coat be between 3 and 5 mils (.003" - .005") in thickness... but it's always a good idea to check what the manufacturer states on their website.
5. keep your hose from kinking (especially important where it connects to the turbine), as that may cause overheating of your turbine and result in premature motor failure. That's why the manufacturer suggests placing the turbine on the floor.
Thanks for all the info! And taking the time to write it 😁 all amazing tips 🙌🏼 I’ll have to come up with some new lifter blocks mine are getting cruddy anyway
I thought the PPS system already has a built in filter so you never have to filter it before putting it into the cup. It's designed that way to save you the step of pre-filtering.
@@saritsotangkur2438 you are absolutely correct, Sarit. However, I have continued the practice of pre-straining any finish that goes into my spray system's cup or pressure pot reservoir because that was what we did when I first got into spraying over 30 years ago. It is another step which takes me less than a minute to do and gives me peace of mind that I will never have to contend with a clogged PPS strainer cap. And they can become clogged, especially if you're using waterbased finishes such as I do most of the time.
@@saritsotangkur2438 it does. He’s saying that you should filter it anyway and be better safe than sorry so no contaminants get in the finish. You don’t have to filter it with the pps system just and extra step to be safe but you are correct it does have a built in filter and you technically don’t have to filter it at all just pour it in. 🤷🏼♂️
Slick system you got there just outstanding!
Hey Jeff. Thank you so much for the video man! It was hugely informative. I started my Etsy shop back in April and it’s been doing really well(DairyBarnWoodworking). One thing I’ve been struggling with is spraying finish(I prefer Lacquer). I just have a cheap HVLP connected to a compressor that’s too small. I just ordered the HVLP Fuji sprayer, 3M cups, mixer lids, etc from your affiliate links so I hope you get a decent kick back. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge man. Take care, Travis.
Hey! Thanks I appreciate it! You’ll love a nice sprayer it gives you sooo much adjustability and good call on the 3m cups it’s a really nice upgrade.
Thanks for the video!! This have probably been one of the best videos to help me get better at spraying!
Thanks!!
Thanks much for the video, I am just getting into spraying and this was very helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
Good video, thanks. And I purchased the quart and gallon Mixers through your link.
Thanks! 🙌🏼🙌🏼😁
Great tips - love the example of not enough verses nice and glassy. haven't seen many examples like this - unfortunately i learned most of this the hard expensive way .
Same here! Trial and error 😆 thanks for checking out the video 😁
Thanks for the video. It's helped me make my decision for doing my office built in spraying. Great video....oh, and I wanted to smack that darn fly!
Thanks! And right! 😆 little bugger
I really enjoy your content this video pushed me over the finish line to pull the trigger on a mini mite 3. It has worked gloriously. Thanks again. I do have a question. What air cap set are you using to spray those two different brands of poly. Thanks again in advance
Thank you very much very well explained, I just purchased Fuji Q5 ,Can you spray latex? And if yes, what type of nozzle would you recommend for cabinet doors?
Great video! Only the pertinant facts that answer my questions! Some other videos by some others are painful to watch lol😂This video is informative, clean and interesting!😊👍👍
Thanks! I need to make another soon showing more spray technique!
I have a Fuji spray system and refinish stairs and cabinets. Was always wondering about the pressure pot addition and it makes sense after your video.Looking forward to watching more of your videos and I am now a subscriber😊🤛👍
@@johngoudie6676 if your spray more than a few cups it’s amazing. They make a larger one that is 2 gallons? And you can set a gallon pail inside it. Thanks! I appreciate it 🙌🏼
Really appreciate the video! Very thorough and well articulated. Was planning on buying the MiniMite4 for some cabinet work, and certainly appreciated your tips!
Thanks for checking it out I appreciate it!
Really great video! I love my Fuji sprayer as well. It's probably the best thing since chocolate ice cream.
Heck yeah! Its a game changer if you finish a lot of items! Or even just awkward items
Great info and setup, thank you for sharing! Fuji spray is on my wishlist. Great idea with the drying rack!
Thanks! And thanks for checking out the video!
Really enjoyed your presentation. You do great work.
Phil Sparks thanks! I appreciate it 🙏🏼😁
I’ve built a small 10’x12’ dedicated spray booth in my wood shop. I will be getting an HVLP setup like the Fuji Semi Pro 2 and wondering about overspray? Will I need a dedicated exhaust fan? Or will opening the window be enough? Possibly putting a fan in the window with filter? I think I would be spraying poly, lacquer and latex paint. Thank you for your help.
Great intro to spraying video, well done. I’ve been looking at the Fuji units to upgrade my spray game. I really like the fan pattern you are laying down, much better than my current setup. Thanks to this video I foresee another charge on my credit card next month. Thanks a lot!!!!
Rich Stephens thanks I really appreciate it! And yesss I had a few entry level systems and the adjustability in the more expensive systems is sooooo nice
Two Moose Design
I started out with a turbine gun 30 years ago and basically wore it out. I’ve been through about 4 compressor hvlp guns since then and am no longer happy with the results. Time for a upgrade.
Rich Stephens oh man that sucks...I’ve always wanted to try an actual compressor set up but I ended up gravitating to the hvlp turbine units because they are so dang convenient lol
Hello Jeff, I really like the Fuji gun and the Graco 9.5 turbine because of the smart start. Will the Fuji gun work with the Graco turbine? Thanks.
Have never sprayed paint before, looking to invest correctly. I like the idea of the top mount 3m pps for small jobs and clear coats, as well as the external 2qt pot for large jobs and paint. Would a t75g gun cover both uses well? I noticed the hose on your gun for the 2qt pot was a bottom hose mount... is that for hose management only, or something else?
Very nice lesson, thanks!
Thanks for checking it out!
Great info! I’m looking into the turbines now , after struggling to spray latex on my last big piece
Latex is rough. Definitely thin it some and I’d get a bigger turbine to handle the heavy material
@@TwoMooseDesign I’ve never used any turbine. I’ve always sprayed with my 60 gallon compressor but never anything as large as what i just finished. I’m exploring several options. Either getting into a turbine or spraying lacquer.
Like tinted lacquer?
@@TwoMooseDesign yes. Didn’t really know about that. I don’t typically paint my pieces. Especially anything that large. Usually I’m using a hard wax oil to finish.
@@dimensionswoodworks definitely try it out. ive used it a few times and it works pretty good. depends on the application but worth a shot! and same i prefer the more natual lookin finishes as well!
Lots of great information man! Very helpful!
Coffey Custom Builds thanks man 👊🏼👊🏼
Great video. On the PPS system, those liners crinkling up were always a problem until I realized you can suck the air out of the cup and they will straighten out. This makes storing or emptying partially filled liners much easier. No risk of getting any paint in your mouth. What air cap set were you using?
Oh wow! I didn’t know that! That’s a great tip. Annnnd the 1.0 or 1.3 🤔 I don’t remember off the top of my head I never change it 😆
I just bought the semi-pro 2 and hope I made the right decision as far as getting the right Fuji model… I’m just a hobbyist as of now and not on your level! But you explained it well! I like that 3m set up too. When you spray on stain, do you condition the wood prior to staining? Assuming you still wipe after staining? Thanks!
Hey! Depends on the wood whether I use conditioner or not. And yes I do wipe the stain. GF makes stain you can spray on and don’t have to wipe but requires a special touch to get nice even color
Excellent video. If you don't mind me asking - unrelated to spraying, who did the branding iron logo for you? Thanks.
Hey! We had gear heart industry make it for us a few years back.
Cool video, what needle size are you using and do you thin the finish. Love the upgrade pot, I am going to get that for my Fuji gun. Your video was a pleasure to watch.
Thank you! I use a 1.0 or 1.3 for thin top coats 😁
Thanks a lot for the video. Great info - that was as informative as you are hot. Love your attitude; if only more folks would know that levity is a more fun way of being serious.
Thanks 😊
Drink some water.
You ever spray precat white lacquer (for like cabinets). Friend wants me to build some built ins for them. I built my own and sprayed them with a white latex using a Graco airless. I ended up with a really good finish but dang it was hard and there was a huge learning curve. I’ve been told spraying lacquer is much much easier. I’m thinking of investing in a 4 stage Fuji so I can do this. Thoughts? (Thanks for the video - it was great)
For topcoats a Fuji with a turbine will be waaay more efficient. Also was it a water based product? I sprayed water based pre cat for about a year and eventually switched back to poly because the lacquer was more sensitive than poly and had a few small issues I didn’t have with poly
@@TwoMooseDesign I’ve never sprayed lacquer or poly because I only have a handheld graco airless. On my cabinets I sprayed SW ProEnamel white paint. I actually got a great finish but it was a HUGE pain. I want something more fool proof, which is why I thought a white precat lacquer would be good. You think a white poly would be even better? I thought lacquer because of the really fast drying times. Then again I don’t know much about it. I’m a novice at spraying. I just want a super smooth white finish that’s way easier than spraying the white ProEnamel paint. I should also note that I want a really durable finish as well. Built ins will be in a house with two little boys. Lol
Totally looking into a gravity gun for my HVLP system - great tips and video ........for a CNC guy 😂🥰😂🥰😂🥰
NYWoodworX 😆😆 let me know I’ll help ya out 👌🏼
I have a Q4 and love the unit but dislike the pot gun. What’s that gun you use?
Were you using the Graco when you switched to the pot?
Didnt sound as loud.
I don’t recall lol neither machine is very loud. I can hear my radio over both machines. The graco is just nice because of the auto on and off feature. I’d say they are as loud as a vacuum cleaner?
Well done lot’s of good advice.
Thank you 🙏🏼 😁
@@TwoMooseDesign checked out your Etsy store - lots of cool stuff. Going to check out the Instagram page also. Looks like people are interested in buying, appears there was several backlog items - may have misread the information. Pretty new to Etsy, Instagram, and the social media scene. Not sure how a small handcrafted shop can keep up with the demand that may be placed on it if their products become real popular. Hope you are able to keep up with the demand after people start watching your videos and figure out who you are. Best of luck.
Rob Sandstrom we definitely get our butts kicked in keeping up! Good problems to have lol and yes we temporarily discontinue items when we are behind. Thanks for checking us out we appreciate it
Have you had any experience with the Fuji Semi-Pro 2 and how it may compare to the MiniMite?
I have not but I believe it’s a smaller system. Which won’t matter much if you mostly spray top coats then it’s plenty. If you plan to spray a ton of paint I’d probably lean towards one of the larger models.
I also spray the general finishes with the pps system and appreciate all of your tips and the way you’ve got a very smooth system going there. The video and all the comments are really helpful. I was always curious if anyone was spraying oil modified poly successfully and now I know. Thanks
Thanks! I spray the oil modified every week on our walnut, cherry, and mahogany items. i dont have any issues 🤷🏼♂️
That was good!
Thanks 🙏🏼
I have the same minwax poly. How much thinner do you use, and what kind? Do you add the thinner once to the tin?
I don’t thin it, I’ll add a little extender mayyybe 5% but normally only when it gets cold or excessively dry
@@TwoMooseDesign what is an "extender"?
Great vid...Ive got the mini mite 5 and the t75 gravity gun but that plastic cup is crap, the overflow constantly blocks and leaks
the pps 3m system is a game changer! I lay it right on the table flat and it doesn't leak. The plastic cups that come with it have to be like perfectly clean, the graco was the same way they wear out way to fast.
I'm Using a compressor hvlp gun setup for paint spraying. What size tip and pressure do you recommend?
Curious what your sitting the trays on when you flip them.. is that just 4 nails / screws? Are you flipping when they are still wet?
Yep a board with screws in it. I beat down the points a tiny bit, and for the most part they are wet. They sit for a minute or two then I flip them. If your careful you don’t see any marks.
Really nice , wondering where can I buy those lids that you use to pour the paint from gallons
There’s links to everything I use in the description 🙌🏼
Which tip do u use n do u dip clean your gun every coat? Thank you for the video. I just bought Q5
Hey! I use the 1.1 and the 1.3 for top coats. And I don’t actually clean it more so wipe it off to make sure excess doesn’t dry on blocking flow
Thanks man for getting back to me so fast!!
@@MoniGhaleyDIY you bet! If it seems like your getting a lot of little bubbles and you already lowered your air output try the smaller needle.The 1.3 that comes with it does great for most top coats.
I received the package last week. I haven’t even opened it yet. Tomorrow I’m spraying my bed. I’m Definitely going to use your tips from the video. This is my first HVLP spray gun. I’ll let u know if anything goes south. I hope not tho. Thank you!!
@@MoniGhaleyDIY good luck! Definitely takes a little practice but you’ll figure it out quick 👌🏼
Which of the two finishes that you showed would you say is more durable for something like a desk top?
Both would be just fine.
Appreciate the video. Great tips.
Brian Bowman thanks! And thanks for checking it out 😁
can ya tell us what size cap and fane setting i'm spraying nitrocellious laquar on guitars with the fuji q5 just got it just trying to get in the ball park settings
I would start with a 1.0 cap and needle and if it feels like it’s not pushing out enough material hope upto a 1.3 needle. Those two are all you need for everything but like paint and thicker materials
Looking to do some wood finishing, interior and exterior painting. Would I save money without compromising quality by purchasing a compressor, pressure pot, a conventional gun & HVLP gun instead of purchasing an airless paint sprayer unit and a fuji hvlp unit?
I’m definitely not an expert but I think it would be just fine 👍🏼
When you are passing over the top, maintaining a nice 90 degree angle to the wood...how are you adequately getting the vertical walls on top side edges?
Are you referring to the inside vertical edges?
I have same machine and gun but the cup that came with is too small what the name of your cup to buy it? Cuz I see your gun is like mine but you change the top cup
I've started using the oil modified poly after watching this video. I usually spray outside with a Fuji Q5 and get great results, but now that it's gotten colder, I've moved into my garage and I keep getting an orange peel like effect as I spray. I'm thinking it's temp/humidity related (as I've already checked the usual causes of orange peel) since temp/humidity are the only variables that have changed. Have you ever had an issue like this? What, if anything do you do in the winter months for climate control in your spray room? Thanks
Our shop is climate controlled. But I did have issues with lacquer in the past. I added extender to product so it wouldn’t dry as fast in the low humidity. I know general finishes makes a water based dry time extender which is what I used with the lacquer. I haven’t had the issue with oil modified but it sounds like a similar issue.
I also run a small heater in the finishing room as it gets super cold here. I’ll also start running a humidifier around this time as the humidity falls off a cliff lol I try and keep the temps around 65-70 and humidity at around 40-50.
Thanks for video
thanks for watching!
For spraying large horizontal surfaces like a table top, which type is better, gravity or siphon? Or will both have constant supply of finish flowing to the nozzle?
I prefer the gravity fed guns. If you use a pressure pot you can even spray with the gun upside down it will have constant pressure
@@TwoMooseDesign I am looking at getting the Fugi semi pro 2, which has the pressurized cap, I think that's the one for me. Thanks for the help!
@@careyhenitiuk8423 you’ll love it! Takes a little bit to learn but totally worth the investment if you use a lot of finishes.
Woodworking maestro
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Really good video. Looking for my first sprayer, hobbyist woodworker, I'm between the Wagner Control Pro 130 and the Fuji Semi Pro 2. I know the Fuji is better but its twice the price.
I’d say it depends on what you plan on spraying most. The wager appears to be an airless sprayer which has the ability to spray thicker paints and the semi pro 2 might struggle a little with thick latex paints. If you plan on spraying mostly top coats like poly I’d definitely go with the Fuji. I personally don’t know anything about the Wagner I just Google it 🤷🏼♂️ I’m not sure how well it will lay down poly and what not since it’s designed to paint houses essentially 😬 either way you’ll love having a sprayer!
@@TwoMooseDesign Gotcha. Basically just sick of rolling paint and cleaning brushes. Want to be able to throw a coat of primer, paint, or topcoat onto whatever project I need some paint on, cabinet, shelf, wall, etc. Would be nice to be able to touch up the exterior white sealer on the concrete block foundation and that stuff is super thick.
@@bilmcgee8494 I would go with the airless sprayer 👍🏼 I like water based products makes clean up way easier you pretty much just spray water and a touch of soup through it
great vid man. I'm curious what you do to keep the air clean in that room. just negative pressure fan/ducting?
Stockbilt I have a explosion proof exhaust fan and then just crack a window and it removes it all pretty quick.
Nice! And it sounds quiet. Do you do multiple coats or any process after you spray them?
Thanks! I apply 3 coats and allowing them to dry per the finish manufacturers instructions. So for me it’s about 3 hours between coats. I do not do anything after the last coat I will occasionally hit them with like 320 by hand very lightly if I have a few specks in the finish. Also before I ship them I wipe them down with a wood cleaner/wax to make sure they are dust free!
Two Moose Design, thanks you for the info! Any Onefinity videos in the works? November can’t get here soon enough.
74 Creative American Design yep! I should have a production machine soon then I’ll make a few more 😁
Just bought some of the minwax. Do you thin it at all? Also what size tip do you spray with?
I have the same question
I do not thin any poly or lacquer. I use a 1.3 tip I may try a 1.1 though 🤔
I do not thin any top coats only paints.
Thanks for the video. What size needle do you use for the minwax poly?
Hey! I use a 1.3 for all film finishes. 👍🏼👍🏼😁
Would have liked to see the pressure pot how to hook it up?
How many coats of water based poly could you get on a 4x8 sheet of plywood with a 600cc cup using a mini mite 3 or 4? I'd like to have an idea of the coverage from these cup guns before i buy one. I've never sprayed.
Do you have an exhaust fan or anything for the fumes?
Yes I have an explosion proof exhaust fan but I primarily spray water based products. When I first started out I used a box fan and filter
Great intro for new sprayers! This was so beneficial! Like your tips and tricks and the upgrades! It looks like you use Brad nails to hold the handles/sides of the tray together. Does that seem to have any issues with the spray poly?
The nails are filled and thee sides are glued on. In haven’t had any issues over the past few years. And thanks! I appreciate it 😁
Does the type of wood matter? Looks like you use a lot of hardwood. What about pine?
@@DEEZSIGRAI I use a lot of pine too. We source it from a lumber mill though not Home Depot so it’s processed a little different
You did not mention the Earlex. Great system.
I agree, I haven’t used one but looks like a good budget friendly system
@@TwoMooseDesign it’s fantastic but boy these are tricky for sure. The paint dries so fast it doesn’t have time to lay down smooth. I bought some additive that will help slow down the drying time and a piece of glass to practice on. Hopefully I will be a pro by the end of the day. Lol. It’s nothing like the 3 other sprayers I have. Again, thanks for the video.
Which Fuji Sprayers do you recommend for painting cars?
Ummm probably the mini mite 4 platinum or larger with a gravity fed cup 😬 I’ve never painted a car so I’d probably reach out to Fuji prior to purchase just to be sure, they are pretty helpful
Okay 10:00 definitely brushed on too thin. Thanks ! First coat seemed to raise the grain alot.
I water pop the wood prior to minimize this
New subscriber here, first thanks for the great video! 🍻🍻 I'm looking to getting into hvlp spraying as of now I do new interior home finish (the trim work, laying the flooring when needed and all the interior painting) but have a fair amount of requests for other odds n ends and cabinet painting so I've been researching different hvlp spraying units. As of now I'm leaning towards a T75G Q5. I have a Graco airless for the work I do now, but haven't researched their hvlp sprayers as of yet, any info or comparisons you may have will be much appreciated! Also any extra pointers or tips for someone just getting into hvlp spraying are appreciated too of course.
Thanks again for the informative video and anytime you may have for input! Again...👍👍🍻
The q5 is a great option! We have the graco 9.5 pro contractor as well they are both very similar. The main difference is the graco has an auto on/off feature which the Fuji does not. You will be more than happy with either system! I have links to them in the description! Thanks for subscribing we appreciate it!
@@TwoMooseDesign hey thank you very much for your reply and very quick at that!!!! And for the info... I really not sure which way to go, but I do have to do more research on the Graco.
I sprayed on old masters interior water based gloss finish… it’s leaving bubbles here and there but enough that I have to sand and re-coat the table top again…. Do you have any suggestions? Should it be thinned a little bit? What am I doing wrong? Thanks!!!
Hey! I don’t know anything about your set up or that finish but typically a bunch of bubbles is too much air. So I would use a smaller tip or try to use less air flow. You could also try an extender which will slow the curing process and give it more time to level out and pop bubbles.
I guess the Fuji doesn’t produce a lot of over spray? With my cheap compressor set up I would have to mask off the side I wasn’t spraying....
It definitely still does but it’s far better than the cheaper set ups I’ve had 🤷🏼♂️
Great video can you please show your set how you by pass the 1/4 can I see you only used the hose attach to the gun keep up thank you for your TIPS.
Thanks! And I’m not sure what you mean by bypass the 1/4?
@@TwoMooseDesign I mean the regular 16oz cup gun.
Ohhhh how I converted it over to the pps system? Vs the stock set up
@@TwoMooseDesign yes
@@TwoMooseDesign I have the same hvlp you have.
amazing!
Thanks!
What are all those things, table tops?
您好！固瑞克的这款跟富士的比较，哪个更好用？
What is that bag liner you're using in your cup?
It’s part of the PPS 3m system
What size tip are you useing in the gun?
Can I use other brands of hvlp spray guns with the Semi Pro 2?
Yes, I can use my graco gun on my Fuji and vice versa. I’m not sure what all works but in short yes.
@@TwoMooseDesign Got it, any conversion kit/adapter I need to buy?
@@riciniguez6206 mine just worked, so I’d assume other hvlp guns will work. It just looks like a giant air compressor fitting.
@@TwoMooseDesign ty
@@riciniguez6206 you’re welcome good luck!
prefer Graco edge 2with pressure pot
AND! GF releases ENDURO-VAR II...... Wonderful........
you kept making adjustments on the gun, but you never explained which way to turn for a desired effect
It depends on the gun 🤷🏼♂️ I can only go so in-depth and keep people interested. I do my best. Also everyone is different. Some people move faster than others so you may need more fluid than me
Fresh paint...a place where bugs go to die.
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Stupid hair. Nice work amigo. Like your combo selection. Woodwork looks great.
Thanks
Dude, where is your mask??? I've been spraying for over 40 years and started out like you are doing...you'll pay for it later in life...got to have a good respirator or a spray booth...don't care what you're spraying, it's a slow killer.
Well I see you finally put one on...good
I wear one every time I spray and always have 🤷🏼♂️
What paint product do you use
I very rarely paint anything