COLD HARD SCIENCE.The Physics of Skating on Ice (With SlowMo) - Smarter Every Day 110

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    Figure skate, Hockey skate, and blade diagram Graphics by Kelly Richard.
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    Glenn Replogle, the Figure Skating and Hockey Player coach was great to work with. Also, a big thanks to Glenn for helping me borrow two skates from the Huntsville IcePlex. www.iceskate.org/
    Nick Laurila was very helpful and accommodating. We also became friends pretty fast. It would bring me great joy if people reading this video randomly years into the future would randomly tweet hot dog photos with the words "Here's a Hot Dog on @SmarterEveryDay" to him / nick_l12 . He has reminders setup in his phone when local fast food chains have "Dollar Hot Dog day". It's quite funny, but deep down I'm jealous of how clever it is.
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    JR Ginex-Orinion - he helped me by putting the equation in LaTex and giving me a file. This saved me a lot of time and I'm grateful.
    Kevin Butler at the Pettit National Ice Center in Wisconsin was helpful in coordinating the filming of the speed skaters.
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  • @captainimperialism4568
    @captainimperialism4568 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2235

    When Destin mentioned the physics going on in the players’ brains, he wasn’t saying that they were consciously doing math equations in their head, rather that their brain can subconsciously calculate the exact angle, velocity, speed, etc of all the maneuvers fast enough to keep up with the game.
    I think his point was that, while they may not consciously understand the math, their brain can calculate everything just fine, showing how powerful the human brain is.

    • @billymays495
      @billymays495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Yeah there's this part of the brain that controls balance and it's crazy cuz all of ur body has to move for ur arms to move out straight and you not to fall down or anything like that even walking would be impossible if we had to control everypart of out body

    • @julidiamondlover
      @julidiamondlover 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yeah, but that's happening no matter what you are doing, like walking.

    • @roryhassett9581
      @roryhassett9581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@julidiamondlover Exactly!! I do it every time I brush my teeth, so that I don't knock them all out with my toothbrush! HAHAHA...hard enough to clean them, and gentle enough to keep them in my mouth! HAHAHA

    • @thegulfwarairsofter1352
      @thegulfwarairsofter1352 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      similar to how we toss something into a box.

    • @ahope4u2
      @ahope4u2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Captain Imperialism .....we are wonderfully created.....

  • @christianpeters345
    @christianpeters345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1717

    “Hockey players we geniuses”
    *gets shot at while trying to conduct an interview*

    • @alexandrpetrov6812
      @alexandrpetrov6812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      True

    • @rivahkillah
      @rivahkillah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      He didn't say they were nice.

    • @math768z5
      @math768z5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂

    • @Kneichion
      @Kneichion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I didn't think that was good. Unprofessional.

    • @healgoth
      @healgoth ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kneichion it was unprofessional to do an interview for an internet video during practice, fair enough trade yeah?

  • @russell2952
    @russell2952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2124

    Every Canadian watching this is thinking "whoa, you are really overthinking this".

  • @isitbowseason
    @isitbowseason 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3567

    We aren’t smart it’s all Muscle memory

    • @faisalpaalijo7127
      @faisalpaalijo7127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      💯 honesty..
      Agile..

    • @adequitevelocity1089
      @adequitevelocity1089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      So true

    • @lemonyeti894
      @lemonyeti894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I mean....your not wrong....

    • @IAMDEAD_01
      @IAMDEAD_01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea

    • @Ares_Zelf
      @Ares_Zelf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Cap, inventors don’t memorize inventions they create them

  • @13sci
    @13sci 7 ปีที่แล้ว +899

    Shows what an insanely complex piece of work our brains are. The fact that a person can do these things without even knowing it just blows my mind.

    • @boah1668
      @boah1668 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      nice words

    • @RADKIT
      @RADKIT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No please don't let it blow it its a wonderfully complex piece of creation!

    • @aplane9248
      @aplane9248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Raid kaboom, your brain matter is all over the place.

    • @phonn6935
      @phonn6935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's mostly muscle memory, so its basically the spinal cord that's the smart one

  • @literalantifaterrorist4673
    @literalantifaterrorist4673 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2120

    As a hockey player myself, I have to say that we do not conciously think about the balance when stopping. We do, however, semi-conciously calculate the stopping point and angle of the skates so that we get the perfect stop.

    • @reigning
      @reigning 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      O.O

    • @literalantifaterrorist4673
      @literalantifaterrorist4673 7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      +Gessica Tran (Ulfonius) It's actually easier than you'd think.

    • @mx.olydian2111
      @mx.olydian2111 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'm well on my way to joining a hockey team, my boss (owner of ice arena) says i can already do everything i need to play, i just need to learn the rules and get the kit
      how much does a full kit cost? from a cheapass cardboard box shoulderpads to badass battle armor, what prices am i looking at here (please give what currency you're using, conversions suck if you don't know what currency we're using)
      oh, and I've already got skates

    • @alip82
      @alip82 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Tremaine Kidman it cost alot if you want anything decent
      Like 2k $ cad

    • @alip82
      @alip82 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +Tremaine Kidman but for starting out you can just go to a hockey shop and give them your budget

  • @alasdairduncan3
    @alasdairduncan3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +509

    I love how much credit he gives to the people he talks to. Scientists, Farmers, Sportspeople who have all worked incredibly hard to do well really deserve that kind of credit!

    • @user-fv4bz8lv4u
      @user-fv4bz8lv4u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      “Hockey players we geniuses”
      gets shot at while trying to conduct an interview

    • @LDacic
      @LDacic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The vast majority of people who are doing well worked bloody hard for it.

  • @holymolythejabroni9040
    @holymolythejabroni9040 4 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    You bring up an interesting point regarding the “background” processing of a hockey player’s brain.
    Wayne Gretzky was not the biggest, strongest, or fastest player in hockey. Far from it. But he had an uncanny ability to predict where a play was going. He was almost prescient in that regard. It’s also why he was such a prolific playmaker, even long into the twilight of his career. He could make passes through loads of traffic because of whatever background geometry/physics processing going on in his brain.
    Hockey is pretty unique among the major sports because of Gretzky. Typically the best players possess some ungodly physicality. Look no further than someone like Lebron James. But Gretzky was a reedy, average sized kid who absolutely dominated the game because he quite literally out-thought his opponents.

    • @CBotts81
      @CBotts81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Gretzky had ungodly talent, yes. And he had Dave Semenko (RIP) to make sure that anyone who even thought about making contact with him would be spitting teeth.

    • @BrucknerMotet
      @BrucknerMotet ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CBotts81 Don't forget Marty "curved stick" McSorley as TGO's "bouncer" in SoCal.

  • @flijk6083
    @flijk6083 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2455

    5:28 as a hockey player, im not implying we are dumb but we dont think of all the math it takes and all that, we just lean back a few inches behind and we are good

    • @NWProductionsHD
      @NWProductionsHD 8 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      +flij yes but you also internalize all the angles and speed you need. Think back to when you first started skated, you could barely push off, let alone stop - definitely not stop of a specific point. Hockey players like to simplify stopping to leaning into it and that's it. But there's really multiple stages where the blade acts differently in each. You need to remember how to adjust on each of these stages to stop precisely where you want.

    • @flycuzflyschool2340
      @flycuzflyschool2340 7 ปีที่แล้ว +191

      I get what your saying but it's more like its instinct you don't have to think about it

    • @mccircled77
      @mccircled77 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      J

    • @RCmies
      @RCmies 6 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      It's in your muscle memory. Implying that you calculate the speed and distance in your brain is complete bullshit that only happens in cheesy science fiction movies. I play a wood wind instrument and it's not like every time I hit a note I'm calculating precisely in my brain what air pressure I blow into the instrument and what frequency the note is I'm playing.

    • @Luna-zk6zy
      @Luna-zk6zy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      figure skaters stop like that a lot too. It's probably the fastest and most efficeant way to stop. Also, the guy wasn't that fast. I could take a stroke, glide and do the same thing.

  • @itrest8626
    @itrest8626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +373

    3:43 the machine looks so cute lawl it has tounge nose n eyes

    • @StrangeTimesIndeed
      @StrangeTimesIndeed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Ha! The sharpening wheel pink tongue.
      Nice observation!

    • @Jaewing
      @Jaewing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It’s... its blepping! Omg I just realized this XD soo cute!

    • @mistyminnie5922
      @mistyminnie5922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      he go blep :p

    • @thequeenofboba6583
      @thequeenofboba6583 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'll never unsee it anymore lolll

    • @slavichwalker9856
      @slavichwalker9856 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      didnt notice that

  • @fancybucket4868
    @fancybucket4868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +898

    Every comment here:
    “As a hockey player myself”
    Then a paragraph

    • @sevensevenseven3818
      @sevensevenseven3818 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fancy Bucket ok

    • @fancybucket4868
      @fancybucket4868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Avocado ok

    • @mallorybymers100
      @mallorybymers100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      not this one

    • @bengosse7217
      @bengosse7217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You are right actully I was watching g the video and he starting saying all the calculations to stop on skates. And I was going to comment as a hockey player it’s not that complicated but then you were the first comment I saw so I just kept watching the video

    • @Samsquamsh
      @Samsquamsh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      As a hockey player myself, I found this comment effing hilarious.

  • @thejokestersquad3686
    @thejokestersquad3686 3 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    "If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't"

    • @nikkiofthevalley
      @nikkiofthevalley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What's/Who's that quote from?

    • @Wetnapkin69
      @Wetnapkin69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That makes no sense

    • @Wetnapkin69
      @Wetnapkin69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At least to me

    • @thejokestersquad3686
      @thejokestersquad3686 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nikkiofthevalley due to the others guys reply I was reminded this comment exists, but it's contested, it's either Lyall Watson, George Edgin Pugh, Emerson M. Pugh, or Ken Hill. One of the four

    • @Anonymous8317
      @Anonymous8317 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ALAH_AK_BOI 69 it makes sense.
      We don’t know how the brain works fully.
      If we did it would have to much less complex.
      But if it was that much less complex….we wouldn’t be smart enough to figure it out.

  • @murdocha
    @murdocha 10 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    As a Canadian, it always makes me smile when people talk about "ice skating". At least to those of us who grew up here, there are skates and roller skates.

    • @Freakcent
      @Freakcent 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Here's a Dutch guy agreeing with you. :)

    • @brentos96
      @brentos96 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vincent Carmiggelt as a Canadian with full Dutch roots, I have a strong love and appreciation for both hockey and speed skating :)

    • @m4xchillax959
      @m4xchillax959 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because the term “skating” is used for skateboarding.

  • @SpecificLove7
    @SpecificLove7 10 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Another great video. I had no clue about the curvature of the blades. Thank you for enlightening us.

    • @viktorbergendahl2696
      @viktorbergendahl2696 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bandy don't have a curvature on the blade like speed skating

    • @sjuns5159
      @sjuns5159 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@viktorbergendahl2696 idk if you're saying that speed skates don't have curvature, but they do. It's just very subtle, so that you don't notice it unless you look closely.

    • @viktorbergendahl2696
      @viktorbergendahl2696 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sjuns5159 ok i didnt know that but i think that bandy skates dont have a curvature at all

  • @Ms.Anonymous
    @Ms.Anonymous ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love how when he's with experts he's able to say "I don't understand" and let them explain further
    No one is an expert in everything and it's fine to not get concepts right off the bat
    Even someone as smart as Destin learns new things everyday :))

    • @rakketz5976
      @rakketz5976 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      “The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.”
      ― Socrates

  • @zilchbupkis3109
    @zilchbupkis3109 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I always like when destin is asking questions and destin manages to make them smile and you can just tell they really needed that laugh that’s so awesome

  • @ClubPenguinBand1
    @ClubPenguinBand1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    I don't know why but this video is insanely interesting to me. I've watched it like 4 times in the past few days

  • @DMSrunit
    @DMSrunit 10 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    im pretty sure for a lot of athletes do it from muscle memory...reasons for practice

    • @GldnTnkr19K
      @GldnTnkr19K 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Exactly what i was saying... like when im playin ball, i make it in the hoop because i can feel my muscles telling me how much force and height i need to make it in. I aint doin no trigonometry or geometry to get that shit done.

    • @calebarchambault9706
      @calebarchambault9706 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      muscle memory is not in the muscles your brain controls it all the genius part is that you have practiced so much that your brain can perform the geometry and trig without conscious thought and you can drive the ball to the hoop. where as if i tried to take the ball to the hoop I would mostly like trip, fall and hurt myself (seriously im not good at basketball at all)

    • @Zaviex
      @Zaviex 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      caleb archambault your brain is only remembering sensory input from your nerves in your arms when you shoot. and replicating that not the other way around

  • @brycerahr7829
    @brycerahr7829 4 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    See you all in another 5 years when TH-cam recommends this again

    • @kaylaautry5348
      @kaylaautry5348 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WHEEZE

    • @alandecowski5945
      @alandecowski5945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello from 10 months later.

    • @jaakev
      @jaakev 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      hello! from a year later i dont know if you still use this account but hello!

  • @benxvariety8878
    @benxvariety8878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    5:55 i beg to differ. i have a D in physics.

    • @sap2472
      @sap2472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too😑

    • @simplifimusic
      @simplifimusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LMAO

    • @tilmanstockert6442
      @tilmanstockert6442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We aren’t the best at school, but we wheel some single moms so it’s fine

    • @benxvariety8878
      @benxvariety8878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@tilmanstockert6442 so true. I can't live without barbara now

    • @itsurboidonnie
      @itsurboidonnie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@benxvariety8878 BARBARA IM DEADDD😂😂😂😂

  • @ChipArgyle
    @ChipArgyle 10 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Jocks and nerds are both physics geniuses. Nerds understand the concepts, math, and formulas involved using their cognition skills but are often not able to translate it into personal physical ability very well. Jocks understand physics intuitively and instantaneously with their bodies, muscles, and nervous systems, but not necessarily cognitively. Both are impressive.

    • @nobodycares85
      @nobodycares85 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is 100% spot on and exactly what I was thinking though worded it much better than I would have.

    • @frollard
      @frollard 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's just a shame the two sides usually don't see the other's 'ability' as valuable...

    • @hermest99
      @hermest99 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      frollard Not untill the nerd becomes the athlete, or the jock starts paying attention in physics class.
      glad to be the right amount of both :3

    • @SpiidAcis
      @SpiidAcis 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Actually none of them are necesseraly geniuses. Knowing or executing known data doesn't make you a genius. Hmm.. implement imagination, improvisation, innovation - now that's a genius!

    • @tjNephilim
      @tjNephilim 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      SpiidAcis Genius - an exceptional natural capacity of intellect, especially as show in creative and original work in science, art, music, ect.. a person having such capacity.
      We're all geniuses in our own elements. What are you a genius of?

  • @williamtishuk1159
    @williamtishuk1159 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1550

    I play hockey and i hate when figure skaters are on the ice before us because they carve up the ice

    • @StyilshSteph
      @StyilshSteph 9 ปีที่แล้ว +545

      I figure skate and I hate it when hockey players are on the ice before because even after the zamboni there are still dips in the ice

    • @williamtishuk1159
      @williamtishuk1159 9 ปีที่แล้ว +365

      Lets just agree to disagree

    • @FlexibleToast
      @FlexibleToast 9 ปีที่แล้ว +186

      It was painful to watch the figure skater jumps. I'm a goalie and I feel like they're always trying to mess up the crease. Always huge divets in the ice after figure skaters.

    • @tpeezyYT
      @tpeezyYT 9 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      I play hockey and i hate figure skaters for all the same reasons and because they think because they can ice skate they can play hockey.

    • @StyilshSteph
      @StyilshSteph 9 ปีที่แล้ว +277

      Tommy Page I don't know any figure skaters who think just because they can ice skate that they can play hockey...that's a very general assumption haha

  • @user-vp1sc7tt4m
    @user-vp1sc7tt4m 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please bring this back to the top of your channel along with many more of your older videos. Consider where you started and so many still are in that space. I watched your wonderful old 2014 video in 2021 and got so much out of it.

  • @nemo227
    @nemo227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, Destin. I've been watching ice skating for more than 60 years and I've been on skates but I think I've learned MORE from your videos in just a few minutes. Thank you.

  • @sofiadeleonardo2629
    @sofiadeleonardo2629 7 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    As a figure skater, skating comes so naturally to me now that I honestly don't even think about all physics and angles put into skating. It always seems weird when people that don't skate talk about skating. I don't know why but it just puts me in check realizing that not everyone knows about skating

    • @Fish220
      @Fish220 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I play hockey, and it’s so true. I am a great defenseman but it’s so weird. I just kinda know where they are going. And I literally just use muscle memory to skate as I think “okay you here he’s gonna go here”

    • @lz5517
      @lz5517 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is true of everyone about the various skills in each individual's skillset - sports, music, art, etc.

  • @UPlayNetwork
    @UPlayNetwork 10 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Very educational video, i feel smarter everyday watching these, thanks

  • @somethingsomething2100
    @somethingsomething2100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    When you’re job is just being an extreme over thinker, love it

    • @RJ-ue3ub
      @RJ-ue3ub 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Your*

    • @dorothymiles7097
      @dorothymiles7097 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was watching this during the New Years countdown

  • @Savebythetender
    @Savebythetender 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love that sharpness diagram! I use it all of the time and I never knew you guys made it! Also, goalies tend to sharpen their skates to have more bite because we have to be technical in our movements in order to position ourselves to stop the puck. The skaters tend to have less bite because, well, they skate more. It helps them skate faster and they don't need to grip the ice as much as goalies do.

    • @flare2000x
      @flare2000x 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? I used to play goalie and we always had our skates duller to slide sideways easier.

    • @Savebythetender
      @Savebythetender 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flare2000x To be honest, not really sure why I said that. I must’ve had them flipped around. I’ve always liked mine sharper so I could get a better grip on my butterfly slide while my goalie coach‘s blades where flat and rusted.

  • @makaylaz2004
    @makaylaz2004 7 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    I don't understand any of this, but I'm interested

  • @Icarus.s
    @Icarus.s 10 ปีที่แล้ว +764

    You sir, most definitely earned my subscription :)

    • @smartereveryday
      @smartereveryday  10 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Thanks Scott. I'll do my best to keep it.

    • @Icarus.s
      @Icarus.s 10 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      :D Holy crap your like the first channel to actually respond to my comments! Dude....You Are AWESOME

    • @prometeusz2
      @prometeusz2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +SmarterEveryDay Hi there! Small correction to an otherwise super video. The melting of ice under the skate isn't due to friction, but regelation, the decrease of the melting point temperature in greater pressure (because of the special thermodynamical properties of water). It's why glaciers move, and why a rope can go through slowly a block of ice, without cutting it in half.

    • @hassanimtiaz6415
      @hassanimtiaz6415 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hhj

    • @vinceturano1720
      @vinceturano1720 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anton Pegram

  • @articfoxqueen7550
    @articfoxqueen7550 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is helping me with my figure skating jumps- thanks Glenn!

  • @biyuwu8894
    @biyuwu8894 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love seeing the dynamics of figure skating

  • @BenightedStar
    @BenightedStar 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Sports physics is so fascinating! Please do this for more sports!! Volleyball would be awesome to breakdown.

    • @Mitsuraga
      @Mitsuraga ปีที่แล้ว

      As a man who cares not for baseball, I would *love* to see a fastball getting hit by a bat through these super slow-motion cameras.

  • @nopigeon
    @nopigeon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favorite thing to do in life was ice skate. It felt like it was the best sport with the less friction/contact between me and the ground or water. But your video is answering all the why's. I have lived in Florida for 51 years after spending the first twenty years of my life mostly in the frozen north, Canada - ice skating on the Rideau Canal in Ottawa to work at one end and attending classes at the university at the other end. I was SO thrilled when somebody invented rollerblades and was able to carry on my dream to the closest thing to ice skating I would be able to find in a tropical climate.
    Thank you for the video.

  • @TS-xj5mt
    @TS-xj5mt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew most of this but still very interesting and great to see the slow motion footage. Real pro presenter and great explanations.

  • @verdatum
    @verdatum 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The editing on this video is just brilliant. He does picture-in-picture to provide commentary during a slo-mo shot and dynamically adjusts the size and position of the commentary frame to stay near the action without getting in the way. This allows engagement with the audience while presenting the visual information of the high-speed footage in a way that is so organic that it means that only film geeks are likely to notice it.

  • @sebastianocampo8685
    @sebastianocampo8685 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So today I had my very first Hockey training. I couldn't manage to do the Hockey stop, I didn't get how it worked at all. Now sir, my mind is in peace but my feet just can't handle too much greatness yet.
    A big fat thank you.

  • @mp4339
    @mp4339 ปีที่แล้ว

    its not hard to stop in hockey. love your vids, cool how you make it so complex. I've been playing hockey for 7 years and I didnt even know how in depth this is. i really dont even think about stopping, you kind of just do it

  • @Brynnster146
    @Brynnster146 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this, I’m taking the nerd approach to learning hockey and I am so fascinated by how skating even works, but the more I understand the physics and ergonomics the easier it is to get it in practice.

  • @white_shadow_123
    @white_shadow_123 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you Destin. You did an amazing job explaining how these sports work. I missed smartereveryday..

  • @flaplaya
    @flaplaya 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Jeez, no wonder the importance of the Zamboni. I had no idea so much damage was incurred on an ice surface.

    • @fizzybunniez4562
      @fizzybunniez4562 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      fla playa THE AMAZING ZAMBONI

    • @finley3459
      @finley3459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Even with the zambonie they cant get all the deep divots out.

    • @GalaxxVA
      @GalaxxVA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@finley3459 The hockey net dents 😖🤧😭

    • @float7567
      @float7567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "HELLO !, and welcome to tony bamboni's used zambonies!"

  • @sionjones1675
    @sionjones1675 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was awesome. I used to rollerblade years ago and I've ice skated on occasion, I snowboard a lot, and combining those two meant I thought I had a basic understanding of how ice skates worked.
    But everything I thought I knew, was wrong!
    Wonderful! I love moments like that!

  • @AlasdairGR
    @AlasdairGR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    There’s something strange about watching someone doing such graceful skating while they’re wearing jeans 😂

  • @hayleeh18
    @hayleeh18 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    3:17
    "....... I'm sorry"
    "That's the SECOND TIME"

  • @SpiidAcis
    @SpiidAcis 10 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Insects are geniuses too, cause I'm sure they recalculate all the formulas before taking off. They are also aware of their weight, wind velocity, air humidity and pressure.

    • @tjNephilim
      @tjNephilim 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is a difference between a Pseudo-Smartass and actually being smart. You should know well enough that insects and human beings are WAY different when it comes to consciousness.

    • @xenomann442
      @xenomann442 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      tjNephilim he's mocking the idea that hockey players are doing physics calculations in their head in order to stop on ice.

    • @DarthSinistris
      @DarthSinistris 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      tjNephilim /watch?v=xECUrlnXCqk

    • @TheKribu
      @TheKribu 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Adam Wojtczak Insects do complicated physics calculations as well however they use very specialized processors to do so and due to this fact they get more done with smaller processor.
      Hockey players DO complicated physics calculations but they do them using part of the brain we call subconciousness and precalculated values (Center of mass, weight of their limbs, stregth differentia of different muscles that have been figured out over years and stored at readily available memory registers for subconciousness) and thus manage to do it efficiently on the fly.

    • @vedant6633
      @vedant6633 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      IF SO, THEN MATTER IS ALSO GENIUS, IT ALSO FOLLOWS QUANTUM PHYSICS

  • @xxxy0l0xxxxyt4
    @xxxy0l0xxxxyt4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I was watching this during the New Years countdown

  • @thormaster06
    @thormaster06 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of your best videos!!

  • @keithhenriquez1531
    @keithhenriquez1531 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Your videos are just awesome.

  • @lhstodqaimvf
    @lhstodqaimvf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the first video I watched from this channel and I AM definitely subscribing with notifications on.

  • @ella2381
    @ella2381 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    im relatively new to figure skating (1.5 years - ish) and i still trip over my toe pick but this helped me to understand more! and also learning about hockey skates is so interesting :)

  • @GoRepairs
    @GoRepairs 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Really fascinating stuff. I never knew about the bottom of the blades, good to know.

  • @mikestopak4072
    @mikestopak4072 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hockey player living in Colorado via Alabama! Absolutely love your videos. Your passion is obvious and content always interesting. Thank you for showing the world the wonderful things Alabama has to offer! Great stuff!

  • @animod8797
    @animod8797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is at least my second time watching this video, and I just noticed the awesome editing trick you did with the skate switch but your kid doesn't change. well, either cool editing trick, or AWESOME parenting!

  • @smamit2
    @smamit2 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Dustin!!!!
    Talking about the precision of a hockey player, i thought about the precision of a skater or pro-skater.
    A skater doing flip tricks has some amazing physics going on, and the level of skill and precision is awesome. I would love to see a video about that! Thanks

  • @lollertoaster
    @lollertoaster 10 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    If they are geniuses, imagine how smart I am - I can stand straight and not fall over. It took me like 2 years of practice but I finally had figured that out.

    • @MaciejKusnierz
      @MaciejKusnierz 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good for you.

    • @lollertoaster
      @lollertoaster 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_development_stages#Two-year-old poczytaj sobie.

  • @ZamboniJerry81
    @ZamboniJerry81 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude you are great at explaining things. I know everything that you just talked about and you tackled it perfectly.

  • @cs4390
    @cs4390 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Destin Thank you so much!!!! Great videos!

  • @Pathrissia
    @Pathrissia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is amazing and my kind of brain food! Love the presentation! I'd love to see one on snookers and pool! As well as inline skating vs roller skating!

  • @thelemershotx429
    @thelemershotx429 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Hey destin! I just want to let you know that the reason behind ices slippery property is not due to friction melting, I would recommend watching Its Okay to Be Smart’s video on the subject matter,

    • @leotrombley6310
      @leotrombley6310 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      also an episode of Q I that explains it well

  • @Maclolp
    @Maclolp 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so awesome.
    You should do a similar video about skiing.

  • @hailfire27
    @hailfire27 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow after watching this video I realized how much better you've gotten at making videos.

  • @CyclingMikey
    @CyclingMikey 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I recall reading a study that suggested ice skates don't melt the ice when gliding across it, and that this was a popular but wrong myth.

    • @prankfiles
      @prankfiles 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      This makes me want to watch hockey. 

    • @averywetfrog
      @averywetfrog 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He talks about this at 8:07 the layer of water is a few nano meters thick.

    • @zacharyweiner2152
      @zacharyweiner2152 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Skates generate a large pressure on the edge. Ice is less dense than water (why it floats). When you increase the pressure enough, you force H2O to go into its most dense state, which is water. That is why there is a layer of water you glide on while ice skating. You may have also had a science class that "boiled" water at room temperature by putting it in a vacuum - same concept.

  • @gia1420
    @gia1420 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really enjoyed this.

  • @Tang526
    @Tang526 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subscribed! Thanks for sharing knowledge to us

  • @poutineoperator2325
    @poutineoperator2325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd love to see an introductory to physics video series on your channel Dustin. Very interested in physics but overwelmed at the complexity of it

  • @RodrigoVzq
    @RodrigoVzq 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this episode was awesome

  • @frankiemancuso6511
    @frankiemancuso6511 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for making me feel good, off to my game!

  • @erickatlynstarling1036
    @erickatlynstarling1036 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sure you don't read comments on a video this old, but you are awesome, man! I click on a lot of your videos thinking there's not much to learn about the topic, but I ALWAYS learn something cool. Keep it going, bud!

  • @abe3252
    @abe3252 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't count on both hands how many times I've watched this video. Fantastic video Destin!

  • @nogoodnameideas3468
    @nogoodnameideas3468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    As a hockey player you don’t really think about friction and angles you just kinda stop. Like my man is overthinking skating

    • @mmonsterr
      @mmonsterr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or you are under thinking

    • @dajapa
      @dajapa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mmonsterr that's his whole point to begin with 🙄

    • @marcuspvxea
      @marcuspvxea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Proves that you are a hockey player because the video is litteraly about going in depth about ice skates.
      This is not overthinking, it's called factual and science.

  • @Azivegu
    @Azivegu 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    No I feel stupid. I knew that skates had two edges, but never thought about why they did. I guess I just assumed it was to make them stop faster. Thanks for the wonderful information!!! And if you ever come to the Netherlands, I would advise going to the speed-skating training center. I heard they even had an ice physics department there.

  • @kix2038
    @kix2038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is vital information for a beginner figure skater about spinning that usually isn't mentioned in many tutorial figure skating videos

  • @dionysius1b870
    @dionysius1b870 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Two things I love the most Hockey and Physics! Great video!

  • @mooshutwentytwo
    @mooshutwentytwo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Needed this video two weeks ago brother.

  • @waynesaban2607
    @waynesaban2607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As far as friction melting goes, I’ve always believed that the melting was from pressure. We know that water expands as it freezes. That makes ice less dense than water. Conversely, compressing ice increases its density, which causes the phase transition back to water.
    Water is unique in that in its solid state it becomes less dense, that is why ice goats in water.

  • @kunalsutar3946
    @kunalsutar3946 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sir are amazing

  • @von4764
    @von4764 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video by the way I learned a lot of stuff that I didn't know before I watched this video!

  • @BruceNJeffAreMyFlies
    @BruceNJeffAreMyFlies 10 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I loved this video, and my dad was happy to finally have an answer as to what a clap skate does, but I went to the tumbler link and the 'Why do speed skates hinge' picture wasn't there. I'd love it if you could put that up somewhere!!!
    Either way, love the videos and keep up the awesome work :)

  • @sethriggen5255
    @sethriggen5255 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You should do one about rollerblade wheels holding on to pavement. I used to use rollerblades as transportation and it's crazy the angles that the wheels can hold at.

  • @haydongreer7881
    @haydongreer7881 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro your old hockey vids got me missing the rink 😭 haven't been in 4 months

  • @ryanjankowski1990
    @ryanjankowski1990 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was so great to watch

  • @XplosivCookie
    @XplosivCookie 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Interesting that you should say that about curling, one of my school's physics teachers is on the national curling team ^^

  • @LeaLikesIcecream
    @LeaLikesIcecream 9 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This was fascinatiing. I am a figure skater and I feel like I understand myself better now :D

    • @Vatsyayana87
      @Vatsyayana87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i like ice cream too..

  • @gedog77
    @gedog77 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an old-time sub this is awesome to come back to.

  • @gyzardo3648
    @gyzardo3648 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've always admired and wished to be a hockey player but this makes me admire them even more. I KNEW it took skill and practice but wow...

  • @defyinggravity8986
    @defyinggravity8986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Yea we aren’t geniuses and we don’t think about the physics while playing obviously but am I the only hockey player who finds this really fascinating

  • @ImReadyD151
    @ImReadyD151 9 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Will you all stop complaining about who ruins the ice before you and all that. Chances are if you've ever skated at all you've put a div it in the ice, doesn't matter what skate you wore.

  • @Visionery1
    @Visionery1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eye-opening as usual. Ice skating is still something I'd like to try, at least now I know how and why I am able to control the skates.

  • @rawerthanraw
    @rawerthanraw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    keep up the great work!

  • @TheFeralcatz
    @TheFeralcatz 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You should make a slow-mo video of someone playing guitar! I bet it would be awesome.

  • @STARPHASE
    @STARPHASE 10 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    First time I went ice skating, I sucked, because I tried figure skates first. it was awful. Tried hockey skates, and I easily picked it up...Just like roller blades. I roller blade very well, but can't use quad-skates for my life =P
    Also, most hockey players are very smart. A lot of them go to high end colleges, the goalie of our local ECHL team, had a degree is accounting I think. And that's not uncommon.
    They're also the athletes you hear the least about..you almost never hear about 'scandals' and/or crime when it comes to hockey players.

    • @JamesBrown059
      @JamesBrown059 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      -smart-
      >
      -degree in accounting-
      top kek

    • @KingHalbatorix
      @KingHalbatorix 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Xthreeo
      >maymay arrows

    • @jakeman8273
      @jakeman8273 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      It takes lots of practice for skating. My hockey team was one of the best in my state last year

    • @AJEDDY97
      @AJEDDY97 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta ask, what team you from Stein?

    • @STARPHASE
      @STARPHASE 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The ECHL? The Ontario Reign.

  • @trizumafk
    @trizumafk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My team I watch is ice flyers and they go against havoc a lot. So cool to see you talking to one

  • @MrVocalBaby
    @MrVocalBaby 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is an absolute masterpiece!

  • @rsajay6256
    @rsajay6256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Audible Hopes You've Enjoyed This Program"
    Also, as a hockey player... Ermm, I mean a club level superbike racer, we don't think about the physics involved with backing it into a corner either, one simply (yeah I know, one does not simply, one will half-kill ones self spectacularly) learns by repitition where the traction of a given part of a given turn's entry is, and by gearing down faster than one should and dragging the clutch more or less right, the rear tyre's resistance via the slipping clutch and engine braking, fractionally exceeds the friction between the road surface and the contact patch. This allows the bike to back in or "feint" in to use the car drifting term, and be steered from the rear with a balance of ever decreasing front brake pressure, and clutch slip. The braking trail off is a discretionary, sometimes you may need to still be trailing a little front brake sometimes not.
    Likewise feathering the throttle all the while, and then going positive throttle to actually increase rear tyre spin on exit as you're standing the bike back up, gradually so that when the rear tyre hooks up once you're upright, (larger contact patch toward the sole than in the tyre shoulder increases grip suddenly) and you are shot off down the straight, is also a learned skill. Much I imagine like hockey players don't think about the physics, they feel the skate blade shaving the ice and know how it normally behaves. Need to stop later - less shave, need to stop sooner, more shave.
    And... just like a bike, too much and you slide out. Too little and your slide hooks up and you sort of shoot off in an unplanned direction, and either get some airtime before gravity brings your clamping angus back down on the seat, or you highside and do the ragdoll, maybe get chewed by your bike

    • @deadpanfish
      @deadpanfish 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you think it adds an advantage to know the physics, in either racing or hockey? I mean if you can understand the science I think it would work to a greater advantage having the physical muscle memory, but also an understanding of your motion at a greater extent. Although, being an athlete, the last thing you want is to be doing calculations while trying to compete live. That's why we practice. A lot. Sad to see all these nerds in the comments thinking hockey players are just a bunch of meat heads. To be fair, a great bunch of them are. But you'd also be surprised. Peace

  • @cat_intensifies
    @cat_intensifies 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1003

    Hahaha you are totally overrating how hard it is to stop on ice skates, you just do it on feeling, it's like keeping your balance on a bike, you don't have to know the physics of it at all :D

    • @teddydavis5383
      @teddydavis5383 8 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      cat intensifies You don't have to know the physics of breathing, or drinking water, you just do it. If someone told you to stop running at a specific place, your mind calculates when to angle your foot, and how to do it. You don't even have to give it a thought, its your subconscious doing all the work.
      But you do have to know the physics of how to do it, its just not that hard for you to do so. Its amazing what our minds can do. :)

    • @cat_intensifies
      @cat_intensifies 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep

    • @connorhuard9679
      @connorhuard9679 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +cat intensifies stop trying for people think you are good

    • @cat_intensifies
      @cat_intensifies 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'm not saying that I'm good at iceskating, I'm saying that braking on them is like keeping your balance on a bike, you don't have to know the physics of it

    • @neddh92
      @neddh92 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      have you seen his video on the reverse bike? its not so easy like we want to belive it

  • @haydongreer7881
    @haydongreer7881 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm going ice skating tomorrow at the centennial sportsplex for the first time and I watched this to hopefully help me, thanks!

  • @Mari_youtube_id
    @Mari_youtube_id 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never done ice skating but I'm watching this. Really good video!

  • @lil_kenny_jones
    @lil_kenny_jones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m a college pole vaulter and there’s a lot of Physics behind it and also a lot that goes into the equipment. An episode on pole vaulting would be super sick.

  • @servals2384
    @servals2384 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    My chemistry teacher always told us that ice skates work not by friction, but because of the pressure of the thin blade on the ice. According to her, water is the only element that actually expands as it becomes a solid, therefore when pressure is put on the solid it forms the layer of liquid water you mentioned. Is this actually true or is it just the friction, or maybe partially both?

    • @scotthix2926
      @scotthix2926 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes you have the right explanation.

    • @nikolaihedler8883
      @nikolaihedler8883 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It's a common misconception; in fact, ice has a layer along the surface where the crystal structure can't form properly, so it's still sort of liquid. This layer is only a few molecules thick, but it's enough to create a low-friction surface on the ice.

    • @dwergmeneer2419
      @dwergmeneer2419 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're right but water isn't an element :p

  • @sach219
    @sach219 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing to find this video was uploaded exactly 4 years ago!!