Actually watched the anime before I played the game, so I thought everyone who kept saying P5 was a masterpiece lied. Then I ended up buying the game because it was on sale, and the difference was EXTREMELY noticeable.
I think P5 (in terms of story and character development) is ass compared to P4, and there's FAR less fun moments with the group. Half the P5 cast seemed like cheap knockoffs of characters from 3 and 4. What really bothered me was that every group meeting was somewhere extremely public and they're all talking about being phantom thieves, but then yell at Ryuji for saying literally anything and I guess that was the joke. The gameplay and system mechanics are vastly improved, but to me, everything else is way worse. The entire game I was just waiting for something "fun" to happen that never did. Like, they go to Hawaii, but instead of doing anything fun or interesting, they sit in the hotel and jack each other off about how sick it is to be phantom thieves.
@@Squidward-jv7go Is it though? They're all dipshits. They all stand around the middle of a crowded street shouting about how they're the phantom thieves, but the only one who gets called out for it is Ryuji. What's annoying is not only is Ryuji the only one called out, but it's basically a running gag to yell at him and call him stupid or to shut up. He's the butt of every punchline and none of them are funny.
JZStudios Ryuji is probably my favourite character but I’m not one to get annoyed at clear running jokes, even if they aren’t always funny, because it’s obvious the whole team cares about Ryuji. It sounds like that’s your only reason and that really is weird. And I don’t even remember that happening often, maybe only twice... and it’s not a big deal.
The problem of the anime can be summed up in one scene: when Sojiro discovered the identity of the Phantom Thieves Anime: . Totally *COOOOL* with it....doesn't even care Game: . Furious about being lied to for months, but still sympathetic to the Thieves' cause . Worried about Ren and Futaba's safety . Split between his responsibility as Ren's and Futaba's guardian but also his desire to avenge Wakaba (Futaba's mother) ....See the difference ?
Couldn't have said it better myself. Not to mention that one scene in Episode 1. Anime: . Kawakami drops a flyer for a maid service business in her first scene... Literally no one cares. (Except for Joker, of course) Game: . Ryuji just finds a flyer somewhere. . Shows it to Joker and sets it up, also bringing Mishima along. . Ryuji finds a vacant room so that they can test the service out. . Maid comes, Ryuji and Mishima hide while Joker does the job. . Ryuji and Mishima chicken out. Maid turns around and... It's Kawakami. Game version is how you do build-up to something without some stupid foreshadowing.
Joel Elombe Well honestly, I like to look at the anime as a way to experience the game again without having to play through the many hours. The anime is also a way to bring new fans to the game.
roast beef Well the anime is meant to give more exposure to the game dude. How can a newcomer who only watches anime know that Persona even existed if he didnt watch the anime first? (Even if its not its entirety). I have friends who watched the anime of P4 first and didnt even know it was a game and enjoyed the heck out of it. Some of them played the Arena games first and didnt think that it started as a JRPG yet they loved it so much even without the background knowledge of it. They bought the Original afterwards. Exposure is exposure. So the content by which you get it does not matter whether it being seeing the anime first or playing the spin offs because it will lead to the game being exposed therefore it will most likely lead to the original game being played. It doesn't matter because everyone will enjoy the franchise differently. I started with Persona 3 and Persona trinity soul. Just like the Star Wars franchise. You can watch the prequels first and then the original and you'd have a different yet still an amazing experience just like the people who watched the original first then the prequels.
Siegfried Final sure, exposure is exposure, but Persona is one of the most popular JRPGs out there. It falls on folks like us that knows of it to turn our friends onto it if they don’t already
P3 Movie - art style and animation are amazing, a bit rushed on the story but what can you do. P4 the Animation - serviceable art and animation, and the execution of story beats and social links were amazing, Yu Narukami's personality is engaging too. There were some parts where it even handled better than the game P5 the Animation - What the fuck happened with you? The only good things that came from you were the opening songs! And oh yeah, at least you handled Goro Akechi and Ren's relationship better than the game. Edit: Yep, P5R pretty much further invalidated the Persona 5 the Animation.
I think the p4 anime was WAY better. Sure it wasn’t perfect but the characters didn’t feel like cardboard cut outs and they followed the story pretty well.
P4A at least for me brings something new to the character and the story of the game itself, it cut down some part from the game but enhance everything that follows the game story. P5A doesn't just cut down parts of the game, it CHANGES some part of the story that was perfect and make it subjectively worse
I also like how the anime does a number of things that the game doesn't do, and some of the scenes are done better than in the game. Makes it much more worth watching compared to this, where it's literally just an inferior version of the game.
P5A is trying sometimes to be P4A which does not work. It is passable and yeah the bitch slap from Makoto makes my watching experience worth it. I like that the anime tried to give Akechi more screen time and interaction with Ren and honestly, it is the only thing handled better in the anime. It makes the betrayal more impactful in the end.
Reno Kyrielium Because the show misleads you into thinking Kirby is the main character when contrary to popular belief, the TRUE protaginist is King Dedede.
@@joshuaholmes7929 The thing that i think majorly helped the P4 anime was the murder mystery aspect. New characters get introduced along with their palaces, but they're more like short term points of focus, getting 1-2 episodes per character intro, while the long term goal is still always "find the killer", and the characters get further development while on the way to completing that goal. P5 doesn't really have a concrete end goal till late game, which makes the beginning and middle of P5's story sorta aimless, especially when presented in the format of an anime.
The only redeeming feature it has is some of the dubbed lines, and that’s thanks to the fantastic English VAs. Ryuji yelling yeet is never gonna leave me.
I know this is a late comment, but I think the ending credits song "Infinity" is fantastic, and I wish it was used for Persona 5 Royal. In addition, I do think that they made the mistake of trying to copy the narrative of the game, albeit in a condensed form. Instead they should have came up with an entirely original story that was tailor made for the medium of a TV series; Video games and film/TV are entirely different mediums, after all
I greatly enjoy how in-game, Ren as Joker is a cocky, flamboyant, badass little show-off who taunts his enemies, shows no fear when facing an opponent, and does what he does due to his unquenchable need to help other people, the catalyst to him being able to awaken his Persona and wield Arsene in the first place while Anime Joker is..... kinda tough.... a bit mean...... can fight...... meh.... Point is, In-Game Joker: Cocky and flamboyant little show-off with a flare for the dramatic and a strong sense of style and grace in what he does Anime Joker: He knows how to use Personas, wears a mask, and and can use a gun. Yay....
Kifflom Dolphin Exactly; I was actually quite disappointed when I saw the casino escape scene at the start of the anime and saw how stoic he was. I already missed the scene in the game where you see the theatrical shot panning up to Joker: perched up high, briefcase under his arm, coat swaying in the breeze and that cocky, mischievous smirk spread across his face before he makes his escape.
In the beginning of the game it kinda feels like joker is trying to be cool and failing or just ending up looking like a goofball but by the casino palace he becomes a cocky badass and I love that.
I would have preferred the anime if Ren was totally written off the story (and Haru too). A silent protagonist with no point in the plot except being the player's insert, why can't you simply TAKE HIM OUT and make Makoto the protagonist?
@EdMarlo Ulpindo I think it was intentional, as they wanted to avoid giving Ren too much of a personality and ruin the "self-insert" he was created to be. If that was what they wanted, they I'd rather want him completely taken off from the anime, rather than him being given a canon name, because a canon name doesn't always mean he's going to be non-silent and to get a good characterization (and he didn't), while completely writing off the silent protagonist means that the party member (Makoto Niijima) that acts as "replacement protagonist" is a good character.
@EdMarlo Ulpindo For Persona 6 the animation I want the protagonist not to appear at all. While we had a few protagonists like Yu Narukami and Serph from the Quantum Devil Saga book adaptations, who were turned into characters with personality that were even well-written, most protagonists from Megaten are still silent in adaptations or are kept generic to be self-inserts (see for instance Hibiki Kuze, Makoto Yuki or Ren Amamiya). A protagonist that doesn't exist in the anime gives those who want a player avatar their avatar, and to those who want a well-written protagonist for the anime a party member who takes over the protagonist's duties. After all, Persona 5 showed us that half of the cast was an overglorified mouthpiece for Ren
CloudKpop More like “Don’t let people make games into EXTREMELY BAD anime adaptation” Let’s be honest if the studio wanted to make a great anime they would definitively do it
As if the English VA's death would ever stop a Japanese studio. In fact, Wikipedia says the Japanese version of P5A recast a few characters whose VAs had passed away.
I simply look at it as another gateway into the Persona franchise. I originally got into P4 after watching "the animation" because I was so intrigued in the characters. Its the same with this 1. After watching the Daybreakers OVA I was excited to play the game.
I have to say while the P4A got me into the game, It was decent enough for me to enjoy even after playing the game. this is just plain insulting. Just like P4AG by the same ppl
This one doesn't even function as a gateway thou...unless you mean that this gate has a giant titanium padlock on it that you have to open with a nuclear bomb to not be deterred by it.
tbh i dont understand how someone could have a crush on the MC since you are controlling the character so its your own personality which controlls his decisions. Well, accept when you should go to bed...
@@danielcrosby4035 He is rather boring in the anime so he is as neutral as possible personality-wise and in the game he follows your own actions. Still no reason to have a crush. I know that he is a character but that doesnt change the fact
@@zema9401 Why I dont have a crush on him, I totally understand why he is more than just a medium as he does actually have a personality as Joker, from the way he theatrically move and interact to the few uncontrollable parts like at the beginning from him standing up to against an adult to his catchohrase "The show's over!" All clearly demonstrates a personality. Even his Persona Arsène gives him more as we all know that a persona is your hidden self and compared to the others Mc's, he isn't a Wild Card by going with the flow or obediently follows but he is one by putting a mask to hide his true self and appear as someone else. Joker forcefully lies to the persona to make a mask to rely upon if a new problem arise. He's the puppeter of the show, the phantom of the opera and the leader in the shadow directing a rebellion against society. So yes, he does have a personality.
Said it at 2:37 The wiki summery of the game's plot is the most faithful adaptation of Persona 5. They cut a lot of stuff out, but they kept what mattered.
Yeah I noticed that, how weird. Did they change it because people complained or was the previous one just a placeholder? Does that mean the opening seriously wasn't completed until the fourth episode? Just how tight a schedule is this anime being made on?
A n d y S Side quests and unimportant shadows: filler episodes in every anime.
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Talking about JoJo I wonder how the anime would have turned out if it was produced by David Pro instead of A-1. Every point that the game masters and P5A flaws (Opening, musical direction, visuals, sfx, etc) is managed very well in the JoJo adaptation. I know that JoJo isn't an anime with a mainly God tier animation (It does have god tier moments but almost everytime is standard) but the direction manages to make its better aspects compliment its flaws.
GG-27 but I wouldn’t consider persona 4 a 100 plus hour game. Generally speaking this is supposed to be a brief taste of what you will experience if you wanna play the game. Will they leave some stuff out? Of course, Persona 5 the Animation is basically a commoner’s approach to the material its merchandising (much like Pokémon with its game and YuGiOh with its trading cards) Persona 5 the Animation’s main goal is to sell you a product that you want to invest. After all the way they approach the anime appears like so. Much like Persona 4 the Animation and Persona 4 the Golden Animation, Persona 5 the Animation is to give you a take on the game and if you want to emulate or create a different approach then you can buy the game and play it yourself. It’s the main rule when it comes to product-based Anime.
I really don't like how they handled Ren. In the game he had a lot of funny and sarcastic comments. He was snarky and I couldn't wait to see what he would say. Even the other characters knew he had a mouth on him. There was one scene in the anime where he got so used to taking off masks he almost did it in reality. I wanted more of that! They also down graded scenes like where Mishima blabbed about Komoshida. You don't hear what happened in the anime when Ryuji and Ren found out so its nothing big for the audience when it was a big deal in the game. You could feel Ryuji's anger when its implied the worst happened, that's why you got angry with him in the game. You get nothing like that in the show. Then there's the animation, I understand you can't make it like the game, but the all out attack needed work, but I really didn't like the lighting. I felt like giving the characters an umbrella because it was so dark anytime an episode came on.
I wasn't expecting much from P5A, and I was still let down. All I wanted was some good action, man. Why couldn't they give me some good action? That's something A1 *can* do.
I don't really think anything persona 5 related has a right to look standard. The game flagrantly defies what is to be expected stylistically from a JRPG, taking style to a new level. The game itself is about defying the opressive grip of authority and expressing yourself in the way you feel is right, so what is the irony that the anime not only looks standard but is stiffly animated, cheap and lifeless? Just look at the opening to the Game, that could've been what the whole show looked like this abstract, symbolic representation of the themes at play with in the story, but instead the decided to play it so safe which is antithetical to the very ideas that P5 thrives on. Why does the sky need to be blue why do the character need look on model, why do the buildings need to look so generic? Go crazy, have fun, you would've made a bigger impact doing that than trying to adhere to what is expected. Hell even the promo looked like it would've been a better style for the anime than what they went for. Such wasted potential.
Marche800 ok, you’re exaggerating. You’re talking like this game was some milestone for jrpg’s.... it really isn’t. It’s one of the best recent jrpg’s, but don’t talk like it’ll go down in video game history as legendary as something like Chrono Trigger or FF7.
Baba Bobo Am I exaggerating? I'm of the mind that the aesthetic of Persona 5 is going to loom over every RPG I play from now on. It sets a pretty dominant precendent in that regard. If an rpg doesn't have a strong aesthetic it will always have something inferior to P5. Now I'm not saying it redefined the genre entirely but neither did FF7, FF7 just popularized the RPG genre and pushed it towards the 3D era but as far as gameplay and story it was fairly standard when compared to the previous games. Other games did the the same or even more that FF7 but because of how popular FF7 was the changes it brought were more prolific and set a standard.
Marche800 it’s cool that you think Persona 5 is that great. I like it quite a bit myself (although I think P4 is superior, and is better in every aspect besides graphics and gameplay); but don’t be mistaken in thinking it’ll be nearly as celebrated as the other jrpg’s that truly defined the genre. It’s just a really good game, nothing special; we get tons of those over the years. Again, it’s cool you think it’s revolutionary, but it’s just another popular game of the year that’ll be somewhat forgotten by the masses in the years to come, much like the Arkham games, or Nier: Automata.
Baba Bobo Again it's not that I think that it's revolutionary in its own, it's that I think it's presentation is revolutionary and it should become an industry standard to create a unique and rich aesthetic for your RPG instead of going the generic status quo. Also you mentioned NieR automata but that game borrows heavily from pre established ideas in both gaming as a whole and the Drakengard/NieR franchise. Gameplay wise it's pretty standard platinum fare and it's tone, themes and writing style are thing that were explored pretty heavily in the previous games but, like Final Fantasy 7, it only seems revolutionary because Automata was popular and heavily regarded. The same is true for Persona 5 in a lot of ways, it's a audience and critical darling, so even though it did a lot of things that the previous games established those elements that were overlooked in the previous games are brought to the forefront and attributed to P5 because of its popularity. For a lot of people Persona 5 is there first Persona game and so the elements present in the previous games will appear brand new to them and given that their first experience was with 5 they will likely attribute that feeling with Persona 5. It's like how many people still think back to their experience with persona 3 when they talk about what so great about Persona. If those same people go on to make game ormf storues of their own there's a great chance that it'll be inspired by Persona 5. It may seem like a Renaissance for of veteran fans but to newcomers, to which there are a lot of, it's all brand new.
Apparently that openings getting an update in Episode 4, so it could be much better. Unless you’re saying the song itself is bad, in which case you’re objectively wrong, that song is great.
Mysterious Jojo Wake Up Get Up Get Out There was a better song no matter how great, and the anime can never match the godly visuals. Persona 5: the Animation could have been great if under a better studio and staff however.
MB has never been much of a music guy, he mostly focuses on visuals. And he's right on that front, the OP's visuals are garbage rn. ESPECIALLY when compared to the amazing game OP.
Even though the anime is shit, Ren is the canon name for Joker now. You all have to deal with that. (tbh, It's a better name in general in my opinion, The surname literally means "Rain Palace" how neat is that.)
@N GUY i belive that persona 4 golden had a better story and was better on a handheld like the psvita where the new game p5 is on a worse system for portability and has a worse but still excelent story, but i think that persona 5 has better gameplay both in the social asspect and the fighting aspect as well as the dungeon exploring aspect so it was easier to finish persona 5 for me but the story as a whole wasnt as great. it wasnt trying to be though. it had villans that were not sympathetic and although that is what it was trying to do sympathetic villans like in persona 4 golden are better for an engaging story. both games are great but i like persona 5 as a game better and persona 4 golden better as a story
How to save the anime. "So why is this model gun working only in the metaverse mona?" "Basically our mind amplifies the power by thinking its a real gun. The more realistic it feels the more amplified it is, like palaces!" "So that means that someone with strong cognition can make fantasy weapons work?" "Yes?" "Right, so that's why Akechi uses lazer swords" "ITS A LIGHTSABER!" "SAME THING!" This is how it should have been but the reality is that. "So why do our guns work in the metaverse?" "I'l explain it to you later." "WHY LATER AND NOT NOW? WE HAVE ALL THE TIME MONA!"
I’m pretty sure Akechi uses a lightsaber because he basically got his childhood stolen away from him when he was passed around homes like a basketball, never actually getting to experience real home. Also probably why he also has a Laser Gun.
The Persona 4 Animation felt needed and welcomed! It gave Yuu a personality that seemed like he was many things that you could imagine him being in the game. Cool, confident, caring, a bit of a dry goof. I loved him! And like was mentioned, because the original game was on the ps2, what happened with Nanako didn't have the same punch that the anime did. I cried my eyes out. It was so heartbreaking.
Nanako's death in anime hits harder in the anime because you didn't see Nanako resurrection. Yu sparing Namatame while Nanako still dead, makes him question his choice.
Impression of a first time Persona 5 fan or non-watcher of the game/anime: "I'm so confused." "Why does that guy(Ren) seem like he knows everything?" "Who are these twins?" "Why does that guy hate the teacher?" "What exactly is the metaverse?" "Why does the cat keep saying he's not a cat?" "Why is the teacher an a-hole?"
To be honest, a lot of this either didn't confuse me or didn't bother me. The teacher questions seemed pretty obvious to me once the whole "views school as his castle" thing was dropped, the metaverse was obviously a uniVERSE of META-cognition (reinforced by calling it the "cognitive world"), the cat... really, I've seen "obviously anthro animals" vehemently deny that they are that animal in too many ways to have this bother me, and the Velvet Room... Okay, obviously I saw more than just the anime if I'm familiar with that title, but the intro of the LP was as far as I got before growing tired of it.
Oh God. Those all-out attacks are hurting my soul. They look like cheap chinese knock-off compared to the actual in-game animations. How is that even possible ?!
Apathetic animation. It's clear this adaptation was cranked out with a C-grade effort of "Well as long as we jsut put in everything we need to, it'll pass." Like a kid rephrasing a wikipedia article into his own words for a book report. There is no love being put into this adaptation and it shows, especially compared to P4A.
AuraCreed my faith in the persona fandom has been restored. Take that, Rentards -I’m not actually attacking to the people who prefer the name Ren, just take a jab to idiots who forced their opinions on Joker to be Ren and call them Akiratards-
As much as I prefer "Akira Kurusu", I also like the meaning behind "Ren Amamiya". Apparently it means Lotus, Rain, and Palace. Palace is obvious, Rain I'm guessing is meaning to make something fall (the palaces), and the Lotus is a symbol of purity and cleansing in Buddhism. I personally think going for something around the word Trickster or Thief would've been more fitting, kinda like how Narukami meant "howling god" and was the name of the Japanese god of thunder, and Izanagi was a lightning persona based on a god.
It's notable that the P4 protagonist is the only Persona MC to have one name stick. Nobody calls him Souji Seta instead of Yu Narukami. Meanwhile, we still have Minato Arisato/Makoto Yuuki arguments over a decade later, and I think that we will have Ren Amamiya/Akira Kurusu arguments for a very long while as well. You wanna know why? Yu Narukami left an impression on the viewers with his goofy and funny dialogue. He held a presence within the story. Meanwhile, Akira and Ren are completely different.
...........lol what corners have you been poking around, I have seen *way more* of people switching between Yu and Souji then i ever do with Makoto and Minato. Like I agree it does the best of the animes adaption wise, for still being meh, but yeah no I see people swap around all the names plenty enough 😂
In reality, it was because all the spin-offs of Persona 4, many, many of them, used the Yu Narukami name, while only Persona Q2 and I think Persona 5 Dancing in Starlight uses the Ren Amamiya name, while Strikers lets you name him however you want. Also, for a *long* time, Akira Kurusu was the only name and folks just got used to them.
"Like watching someone else play a JRPG with slightly more camera movement" I didn't play Persona 5 directly, I sat on the couch and coached my roommate through it due to our different skillsets. That being said, I can say with 100% certainty, that your statement is an insult to watching someone else play a JRPG.
I started watching P5A as it first aired, enormously excited to see my favorite game get an anime adaptation. But oh, was I disappointed, I kept watching for a while until episode 13, but then just dropped it, and couldn't find the desire to pick it up again. The animation was boring, and it didn't have the color or the style that the game had. The game was imo, superior in every conceivable way.
while the anime is definitely okay at best it did get me interested enough in the story that I went out and brought the game for myself, so in that respect it accomplishes it goal in creating hype for the original source material
I wish I could play Persona 3 but I can't get a port of it on my PS4. Plus I heard P4 improved on the P3 game mechanics so I don't want to feel like I'm playing a down graded game. But a remaster would solve all of that.
I want them to be real characters on their own. In the anime Yu was an actual character, even though Makoto in the movie was still silent (he had a few lines, but roughly the same as Ren in the game), and in the adaptations, the other non-Yu Persona MCs lacked the choices, but their mutism was explained with plot reasons, such as Souji in the manga being born with damaged vocal chords, or Yu from the Golden Animation being born mute, or who knows. As for the protagonist in P6 I hope he'll be an actual character (or who knows, TWO actual characters!), but, if he's going to be silent in the game, then I think the anime won't make another exception like Yu, instead giving him only facial expressions a la Wind Waker but no dialogue whatsoever. Like the protagonist in P1 manga and unlike Yu, I also think the P6MC might stay unnamed in the anime. As for Ren, I think they might retconnect him as an actual mute in spinoffs and have Futaba speak for him.
I would prefer for them to animate Persona 2 Innocent sin and Eternal punishment, although i think it would also suffer because of how much content both games have like P5. At least P3 fared better being a film, P4 wasn't bad but some episodes and the animation felt meh unlike the game.
^ Same. I bought P1 on PSP, and both parts of P2 on PSN a few years back. I like to think I can get over old game mechanics to a degree, but they just feel so inaccessible by today's standards.
Seven_Martinez I'm fifty fifty about the remake idea, it sounds good cause it could reintroduce the p1 p2 games again and attract gamers with a new look sticking with the same story, but at the same time I'm not very keen about it since I'm really attached to the old game mechanics and its old unique style. I remember playing my first persona game on the ps1 and it was innocent sin, thing is it was in Japanese cause of the issue of not being localized, it was hard getting by not understanding anything but my big brother was mainly playing it too so we got the handle of it, luckily the psp versions were released, understanding the game made it a thousand times enjoyable then it already was.
Honestly, I think an anime studio COULD make a good anime out of Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment, for a couple reasons; a) no social links, so all the charactization happens IN the main storyline, b) those games take place over a MUCH shorter period of time, rather than almost a full year, and c) most places and events in P4 and P5 were essential to the plot structure, so you could rarely condense things, but in Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment, there are some plot points and areas that could fessiblly be shuffled around and combined without losing anything, especially since the game isn't played on a calendar system, so if you move stuff around there's no "what on earth were the characters doing for that WHOLE MONTH-LONG GAP OF TIME???"
There's actually less excuse for this anime's low quality considering the Persona 4 anime was a masterpiece. In fact, I never played the Persona 4 game and I wasn't lost at all
Mother's Basement: Well to be completely fair, we haven't seen Kamoshida's boss battle yet. Me: *Hoo Boy!!!* You'll *never see it coming* to how much of a disappointment it was.
How did they manage to make the P3 movies actually okay (putting more focus on the main cast, I especially liked how they fleshed out Ken and Shinji's relationship more) but turn this into a soulless adaptation? For god's sake the game was praised for how much it was bursting with visual charm. Instead we get the most bland, lifeless interactions and every bit goes from point A to point B without a single pause. Pacing is moving horribly fast and the characters seem to barely even register each other's presence. What the hell happened? edit: I'm glad i'm not the only one who was actually kind of let down by the opening. the music starts off interesting but becomes predictable 20 seconds in and the opening is LITERALLY just animated official art.
Different studios, different directors, different amount of time given to work on the product. Also this is the studio that game us the Persona 4 Golden Animation, and that was 12 kinds of mediocre (except the bad ending episode). It's really a shame they couldn't bring us something on par with the Daybreakers OVA, but its almost definitely cause they rushed the damn show out like crazy.
The only movie in the series that had a different studio was the first one. After that, the remaining three were all animated by A-1 Pictures. It could be the fact that three directors worked on the movies (1, 2, 3/4 all had separate directors). Regardless, they still did a much better job. This anime is just a total disappointment for anyone who has played the game. Even if you haven't, going from the anime to the game will be a shame, because you already know the events that will occur but they won't evoke the same sort of emotion. It doesn't help that again, the game also had brilliant art direction that looked so good when playing. If they can't capture the aesthetic that helped push the game into the mainstream, what's even the point of making the show? That's be like if an "Oyasumi Punpun" anime just completely did away with the bird head - why would you even do that?
@@mistastetraphobia5625 that's exactly what I did. I didn't have the game and I was thinking of watching the anime but I had a feeling that I should watch the gameplay an then the Anime. And I'm glad i did.
FYI, the entire boatload of projects done by A-1 Pictures (including this one) is just fillers done to fill the gap between every Sword Art Online shows. It's success effectively turn the franchise into their Creator's Pet, where they going to spent more time and budget on it more than anything, which is the reason why SAO looks "cool" while the others look like shit. Want a proof? Just look at Phantom Bullet compared to other A-1 shows that came in the same year like Aldnoah/Zero and Cinderella Girls. The difference in quality is so striking that it has become cringe inducing.
While you can argue SAO boom has faded for quite a while since it's undoing in form of Aincrad final and the entirety of the Fairy Dance, it still doesn't stop the merchandise section to cash in the meme further by selling high quality figures (espwcially Figmas) and other schtick we will inevitably buy.
Not necessarily. I'll admit it's not great, but the anime actually COULD capitalize on one big problem: the lack of development before and after The Big Stuff with Goro Akechi. He was sort of just a forgotten plot point after a point, not mentioned or anything. Akechi could certainly get a lot more development than P5's english release gave him. They botched a lot of his lines in localization, for example. So I think it could be a good thing we get more Akechi, and it already seems like we are. That's a pretty big redeeming factor to me, at least. There are definitely some plot points like Akechi the anime could improve on/give us more about, I think.
Char You’re considering your assumption that the game could do more with Akechi as a redeeming factor? Let’s be real. They aren’t going to do anything more with Akechi that the game hasn’t already done.
I second this and raise you: further development for the other party members as well as they were significantly less explored than their counterparts from the previous games in the series.
Not that I disagree with you that they could use the anime to add in more development for all characters (Akechi included), I just don't agree that he lacked with in the game to begin with.
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The anime made me so angry, I felt almost betrayed. I wish it never existed, I wish it I could remove the absolutely disgraceful mockery of the beloved franchise from existence! And you're absolutely right, his name is Akira, not Ren! Ren is the name of Rachnara's previous host family from Monster Musume, not the name of the P5 Protagonist! Lol
Siegfried Final You don't really need an overly strong PC to play it. You don't even need to have a good GPU as the emulator is mostly dependent on the CPU. I have a 3.1ghz 4440k,8gb of Ram and a potato for the GPU and the game runs fine with some slowdown in crowded areas. Totally playable and was able to finish it.
RasenRendan X Don't worry, boy, I love it too. Animation looks legit af, opening was great (it managed to make me tear up T_T) and awakenings and action so far gave me the chills. I don't really get why this would be waste of time, because during playing I often thought like; "Man, it sure would be awesome to see P5 animated. Maybe it will be possible someday since P4 has an anime".
Nizama this is literally what I thought. I watched the P4 anime in January to get ready for this and I never played P4. I loved it. P5 I'm enjoying a lot too
Usually what happens is that there will be the manga for the game that has the main character having one name and then when the anime comes out they decide to give them a completely different name. Why they do this I have no idea.
they only have 1 canon name never 2 the manga names are just made up by the mangaka making the manga and in no way official by Atlus then when Atlus makes spin offs and anime they make a canon name with a meaning that fits the character and theme of the game it would probably be a smarter idea to just have a canon name from the start like P2 with Tatsuya and Maya and give you an option to change it if you wanted to. Then there wouldnt be the manga problem
the manga came first however the manga arent officially made by Atlus so nothing included in them should be considered canon the manga come out around the time the games did iirc the canon names are Tatsuya Suou, Maya Amano, Makoto Yuki, Yu Narukami, and Ren Amamiya the only protag that doesnt have a canon name is P1 Protag (hes called Naoya in the manga however like i said that isnt official)
Yeah I agree with what you said about P5A but P4A is legit way better compared to P5A. It’s funny, still stays true to the games, and is a great way to recap the plot of P4! I still played P4G before watching the anime but I’d still recommend the anime to anyone who hasn’t played the game!
I watched up to the "normal ending". I would've gone for "No One is Alone" if I hadn't sworn to myself that I wouldn't do that without playing the game to the ends first. Man, what a long wait it turned out to be!
Ace Attorney the game : Creative, innovative, and intense master piece of a game no one expected from a game series about lawsuits. Ace attorney the anime : Pointless, lifeless, low budgeted massive pile of cringe festival.
I watched that. I thought it was good. I really don't like the game mechanics they use and have no interest in the game, but the quirky characters and cases are fun to watch
This sounds familiar to how the Danganronpa anime was handled. Basically, they made it an abridged version of the game, cutting out what made the games so loveable. And the same thing happened to the P5 anime. Rest in Pieces....
There's two general problems with video game adaptations that studios haven't solved yet. Both have to do with the simple question of why you are adapting. Firstly the audiance of a video game adaptation will be gamers. People who have played the game. Sure if your'e adaptation is well enough recieved by this audiance you might tap into the general public but you need to start here. The problem is that most studio executives don't understand that games are a modern artform fully able to tell a story as good as or better then the medium of film. They seem to think that the hook of the show will be seeing the game told in a fleshed out story.. you know.. the thing that games have already. The second is that while an adaptation of say a book to film ads something, audio and visuals (yes the book will usually be better and deeper but there is a technical reason for adapting) with games however you have both of these things. Games adapted to film usually just remove a quality, the audio and sound is in the game, so is the story so the film-medium only removes the aspect of player interaction. Gamers don't want to see some famous actor or animated figure as their favourite carachter when they themselves are used to being the carachter. You simply remove a quality of the game without adding anything substantial (sure you might add better graphics but that's usually doesn't cut it.).. Film needs to find a reason to adapt source material. They have to realise that games are completaly capable of telling a story and find a way to adapt to film adding something that would not work in a game. Otherwise we will never see a truly great video game adaptation..
The Utte! True; reason why I feel that the best way to do a Silent Hill movie is to make an original story first (and not one that heavily borrows from an existing story). Which is probably why we’ll never get one. As for adapting games like the Persona series, a reason for watching would probably be changes that improve the story in some way. For example, I think the fight against Shadow Mitsuo in P4: the Animation is done really well. Rather than just doing the fight, the episode focuses on Yu’s fear of the gang splitting up once the case was solved through a hallucination created by the Shadow. This made it all the more satisfying when Yu defeated the Shadow using manifestations of all the bonds he made. It also tied into the main theme of the story more; note that after that fight, Yu is more open to people (including being on a first-name basis with Yosuke). In fact, most of the Shadow battles are improved just by having the victim conscious. Because now, rather than just beating up the Shadow, the heroes have to first help the victim face their issues (ex. Shadow Yosuke pretty much dominates the fight against Yu/Izanagi until Yosuke admits that the Shadow was telling the truth, weakening him enough for Izanagi to finish him off. Yu also has to protect Yosuke during the battle).
Hey did you play Persona 5? "uhm, no but I did watch the anime, it's close enough right? the game is just a graphic novel basically" yeah, sure. whatever helps you sleep at night
Not to sound like a downer, but the boss fights in the anime are kind of a disappointment. They’re short and anti-climatic. That’s why I skip parts of it.
I've never got this culture of anime fans judging shows with finality after the first 2/3 episodes. I remember watching one of the weebcasts and finding it weird Geoff and the guests were categorically and confidently saying a show was great or awful based only on the very first episode. There're a million shows which have thrown away an interesting initial premise and become trash (Kabaneri, BBK/BRNK) and there are shows that have ditched their initial premise in the first 5 episodes and become even better for it, going on for another 100 (Yu Yu Hakusho). Here there are three episodes of P5A out which is 12% of the show, it could turn around and be great or it could get even worse and be awful, *we don't know yet* .
that's because he and many other already played the game. He knows how much potential it had as an anime. But if the first 3 episodes are badly adapted and rushed af, then it's bad. The fights are beyond horrible. why even watch the anime when a let's play is more fun to watch
It’s just cause big anime fans in general are fucking annoying. Over analyze everything and only “like” the anime that make them scream “Dat ANIMATION!” Never mind the story. If it doesn’t have a lot of detail, it’s shit to them. I wanna go back to the mid 2000’s, when they weren’t every where and so vocal.
Baba Bobo We'll you have somewhat of a point but the problem is that P5 the anime does a bad job telling the original games story and doesn't uses it's advantages as an anime. It's just an inferior product in every way.
i've recently finished the game and LOVED it so i started watching the anime and it's pretty cool seeing some things animated but i probably wouldn't even enjoy it if i hadn't played the game
Well, we have the Shadow Kamoshida fight,,, and it sucked too. The fight only lasted about 4 minutes. Joker's ability to use multiple personas is just introduced and shrugged off. Both parties barely do anything before all the sudden Shadow Kamoshida is going in for the killing blow. I think this fight really highlights my issue with P5: The Animation, it is progressing too quickly for it's own good. It's like they are moving way too fast to get all the characters introduced and get the main story of the game going that they are sacrificing necessary character development. I'm really afraid to see how they will handle Haru considering she didn't really get much development time in the game as well.
PeaTearGryfin the anime does not have time? If Persona series could do 40 minute long episodes and over 50 episodes then they could prolong the battles. But they have only 24 minutes and 24 episodes to handle Persona 5 from the beginning to the end.
Riku Väkeväinen I'd like to point you towards Persona 4 the Animation: which had prolonged battles and decent pacing. But I will concede that Persona 5 does have the caviat that th dungeons are more importnat than P4's. But still if you can't find a way to put the content in the alotted time in a way that weaves a narative and effectively shows the action in new interesting portayals, then don't bother trying to force EVERY Major Plot point from begining to end, also don't waste time with pointless character additions that serve no purpose than cameo/quota. If they took their time and made P5 the animation's 24 a season covering half or a third of the game(I will admit that a third is being VERY generous) they could have had the time to deveop the narative, designs elements, and characters properly. Because come on, if P5 the animation was great do you actually think they would hav trouble getting another season?
Kage1713 "sigh" that's why I have given up on comparing manga to anime or game to anime or game to manga. I could spend the rest of my life doing that, but what there awaits me? Nothing. I figured out long ago that putting exceptions to new version of games or series is waste of time. And if they repeated everything the same way as it was in the game or manga, watching anime would be pointless because I know the story. That's why I am more then happy when they do things differently. It gives me exitment to watch series. I know that Persona 5 the animation is pane combared to game, but I safe a lot of time thinking that Persona 5 game and Persona 5 the animation are from different universe. I can watch them knowing the plot, but I can enjoy both if them at the same time.
I'm not saying "DO it exactly like this or not at all" I'm saying "don't bother if you're going to take the lazy option" because that's what P5 is doing: putting forth the minimum effort without bothering to make a narative or characterize their MC. That's why I'm complaining they aren't doing anything new, they're doing the same thing from the game but crammed into impactless portions that quicly move onto the next impactless portion, the only new things P5 Animation has done are naratively pointless cameos that waste space in an already cramped run time.
I actually enjoyed the persona 5 anime But because I haven’t played the game Yea I was kinda lost on some things but I really just watched it cause I SERIOUSLY wanted to play the game but I don’t own a PS4, I certainly enjoyed some moments on the anime but I still have plans to play it some day and I just wanted to understand a bit to the plot of it cause I was really in love with it thanks to a video relax alax did and many other influences
To be honest I watched the anime before the game and I loved the story. I thought the game would be terrible before I even saw the anime and now I really dont
Personally, my biggest complaint in the anime is it's just so ...drab. Sure some areas in P5 had a relatively grey look to illicit certain emotional responses, such as gloomy streets on rainy days, but on the whole it was a very vibrant game. All colours, but specifically red, POPPED and it was a true treat visually. By comparison, all the colours in P5A seemed very muted. No longer was there that same sense of vibrance, stark contrast, and bold colours, instead everything seemed dark, drab, and dreary. This is perhaps MOST notable in the All-Out Attacks. Why oh why did they get rid of the character specific still frames and change them to a boring all red background for the final frame? It just seems so empty by comparison.
You lost me at "5 to 10 in game hours you spend exploring the world of Tokyo" . Who the hell would get through a persona game that fast? It's a freaking persona game! Anything less than 50 and you weren't playing it right.
I think he might be referring to the time in between each palace being roughly 5 to 10 hours? He also followed it up saying the anime had it cover it in "less than 2 hours" and at the rate it's going, if all they had was 2 hours, everything after Kamoshida would be footnotes at best. So I'm pretty sure he wasn't talking about the entire game being done in 5 to 10 hours, just some part of it, or something, I dunno.
I think the anime is good enough. There’s just no way they could pack all of the subtleties of the game into the show. For me it just functions as a way to share the experience with friends who I can’t convince to commit to the game :(
The characters are cardboards probebly falter then that the pacing is slow the animation compare to the game cutscenes are laughably and even if they can't copy the games fights they can make it better then shoot persona shoot again risen and repeat
P3: Has great animation and a decent plot which makes the viewer feel different emotions by covering all the main points in the game with a great original soundtrack only reusing a few songs. P4: Decent animation and a wonderful adaptation of the story which made the viewer feel as much emotion and perhaps even more in certain scenes as the games by covering even more than just the main points with brilliant openings and a wonderful original soundtrack which reuses songs from the game a bit more but it works effectively. P4G: animation quality has gone far downhill, has about 3 good episodes which are all filler and are captured way better in the game. The opening was pretty good and the rest of the soundtrack was too but it wasn't enough to save the anime as a whole P5: Absolute car crash. Fucking hell it's as if you took the bad parts from the other animes and mixed them into one thing. Animation is poor, soundtrack is used ineffectively and the writing is terrible and extremely simplified making the viewer feel little to no emotion. Had like 3 good jokes in the whole thing and that's all the redeeming qualities it had. Please don't fuck up with Royal.
I freaking love Persona 4! But I disagree with you in the first one. Persona 3 movies were really rushed, they had a pace so fast that if new PLAYER is watching it, he/she wouldn't be able to understand it properly.
I look forward to the day that someone as skilled as Peter Jackson gets a chance to adapt a video game they know as well as Jackson knew Lord of the Rings into a traditional visual medium, and creates a LotR-style masterpiece that brings enough credibility to both video game adaptations that more people actually _put in effort_ when working on them. Until then, we're going to get a _lot_ of anime and films like this and the Silent Hill movie...
Having beaten the game thrice on vanilla p5, and twice on royal, I think I'm the only person this show is for. Especially with the dub now out, the animation feels evocative of the moments of the games for someone that's SO FAMILIAR with what happens and the actual fleshed out story and character beats. I think the performances in the dub are phenomenal and make the animation worth watching on their own merit
Actually watched the anime before I played the game, so I thought everyone who kept saying P5 was a masterpiece lied. Then I ended up buying the game because it was on sale, and the difference was EXTREMELY noticeable.
I think P5 (in terms of story and character development) is ass compared to P4, and there's FAR less fun moments with the group. Half the P5 cast seemed like cheap knockoffs of characters from 3 and 4. What really bothered me was that every group meeting was somewhere extremely public and they're all talking about being phantom thieves, but then yell at Ryuji for saying literally anything and I guess that was the joke.
The gameplay and system mechanics are vastly improved, but to me, everything else is way worse. The entire game I was just waiting for something "fun" to happen that never did. Like, they go to Hawaii, but instead of doing anything fun or interesting, they sit in the hotel and jack each other off about how sick it is to be phantom thieves.
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That’s a weird thing to be bothered by
@@Squidward-jv7go Is it though? They're all dipshits. They all stand around the middle of a crowded street shouting about how they're the phantom thieves, but the only one who gets called out for it is Ryuji. What's annoying is not only is Ryuji the only one called out, but it's basically a running gag to yell at him and call him stupid or to shut up. He's the butt of every punchline and none of them are funny.
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Ryuji is probably my favourite character but I’m not one to get annoyed at clear running jokes, even if they aren’t always funny, because it’s obvious the whole team cares about Ryuji. It sounds like that’s your only reason and that really is weird. And I don’t even remember that happening often, maybe only twice... and it’s not a big deal.
@@Squidward-jv7go You completely missed the point.
The problem of the anime can be summed up in one scene: when Sojiro discovered the identity of the Phantom Thieves
Anime:
. Totally *COOOOL* with it....doesn't even care
Game:
. Furious about being lied to for months, but still sympathetic to the Thieves' cause
. Worried about Ren and Futaba's safety
. Split between his responsibility as Ren's and Futaba's guardian but also his desire to avenge Wakaba (Futaba's mother)
....See the difference ?
Couldn't have said it better myself. Not to mention that one scene in Episode 1.
Anime:
. Kawakami drops a flyer for a maid service business in her first scene... Literally no one cares. (Except for Joker, of course)
Game:
. Ryuji just finds a flyer somewhere.
. Shows it to Joker and sets it up, also bringing Mishima along.
. Ryuji finds a vacant room so that they can test the service out.
. Maid comes, Ryuji and Mishima hide while Joker does the job.
. Ryuji and Mishima chicken out. Maid turns around and... It's Kawakami.
Game version is how you do build-up to something without some stupid foreshadowing.
@@louiscypher4996 You actually discribe how it was is Anime.
You mean only start of conflict, and yeah, it's suck in Anime.
No, because I haven't played or watched Persona 5
Akira
who tf is ren
I don't think the show is that bad. HOWEVER, the game is an ABSOLUTE MUST and will give you a much better experience than watching the show.
Joel Elombe Well honestly, I like to look at the anime as a way to experience the game again without having to play through the many hours.
The anime is also a way to bring new fans to the game.
I completely agree with your first point, but newcomers should definitely play the games before consuming any other related media
roast beef Well the anime is meant to give more exposure to the game dude. How can a newcomer who only watches anime know that Persona even existed if he didnt watch the anime first? (Even if its not its entirety).
I have friends who watched the anime of P4 first and didnt even know it was a game and enjoyed the heck out of it.
Some of them played the Arena games first and didnt think that it started as a JRPG yet they loved it so much even without the background knowledge of it. They bought the Original afterwards.
Exposure is exposure. So the content by which you get it does not matter whether it being seeing the anime first or playing the spin offs because it will lead to the game being exposed therefore it will most likely lead to the original game being played.
It doesn't matter because everyone will enjoy the franchise differently.
I started with Persona 3 and Persona trinity soul.
Just like the Star Wars franchise. You can watch the prequels first and then the original and you'd have a different yet still an amazing experience just like the people who watched the original first then the prequels.
Wish I could play the game instead but Atlas refuse to port it to PC and there's no way I'm buying a PS3/PS4 for one game :(
Siegfried Final sure, exposure is exposure, but Persona is one of the most popular JRPGs out there. It falls on folks like us that knows of it to turn our friends onto it if they don’t already
P3 Movie - art style and animation are amazing, a bit rushed on the story but what can you do.
P4 the Animation - serviceable art and animation, and the execution of story beats and social links were amazing, Yu Narukami's personality is engaging too. There were some parts where it even handled better than the game
P5 the Animation - What the fuck happened with you? The only good things that came from you were the opening songs! And oh yeah, at least you handled Goro Akechi and Ren's relationship better than the game.
Edit: Yep, P5R pretty much further invalidated the Persona 5 the Animation.
P4 was great.
What's ur hobby
Other people: cycling, soccer etc
Yuu: fuse persona
"Changing things, and fusing things."
P3 movie only covered the important parts but it did so better than the game
Yeah i agree persona 5 is not completely trash but still disappointed
I think the p4 anime was WAY better. Sure it wasn’t perfect but the characters didn’t feel like cardboard cut outs and they followed the story pretty well.
Patrick PFC “I kinda wish I had taped that (._. )”
P4A at least for me brings something new to the character and the story of the game itself, it cut down some part from the game but enhance everything that follows the game story.
P5A doesn't just cut down parts of the game, it CHANGES some part of the story that was perfect and make it subjectively worse
Can't agree more!
I also like how the anime does a number of things that the game doesn't do, and some of the scenes are done better than in the game. Makes it much more worth watching compared to this, where it's literally just an inferior version of the game.
P5A is trying sometimes to be P4A which does not work. It is passable and yeah the bitch slap from Makoto makes my watching experience worth it. I like that the anime tried to give Akechi more screen time and interaction with Ren and honestly, it is the only thing handled better in the anime. It makes the betrayal more impactful in the end.
Nobody can ever beat Kirby, Right Back At Ya
True
PezPro Ahh Kirby
My first anime as a kid that i dont even know the protagonist name until i was 14th years old
Reno Kyrielium
Because the show misleads you into thinking Kirby is the main character when contrary to popular belief, the TRUE protaginist is King Dedede.
That one was good
Jugo The worst Kirby has ever been is just "okay". Considering how many Kirby games there are, that's an accomplishment.
The problem is that this would need to be a long running mutli season show. Like one palace per season mixed with a different confidant every season.
Kale Chips They didn’t do that in the P4 anime. They could’ve done the same for P5A.
@@joshuaholmes7929 The thing that i think majorly helped the P4 anime was the murder mystery aspect. New characters get introduced along with their palaces, but they're more like short term points of focus, getting 1-2 episodes per character intro, while the long term goal is still always "find the killer", and the characters get further development while on the way to completing that goal. P5 doesn't really have a concrete end goal till late game, which makes the beginning and middle of P5's story sorta aimless, especially when presented in the format of an anime.
Unknown yes but the P5 anime felt rushed
@@joshuaholmes7929 True it did
I wouldn't go that far. I would say that they need a lot more than 22 minutes.
The only redeeming feature it has is some of the dubbed lines, and that’s thanks to the fantastic English VAs. Ryuji yelling yeet is never gonna leave me.
I know this is a late comment, but I think the ending credits song "Infinity" is fantastic, and I wish it was used for Persona 5 Royal.
In addition, I do think that they made the mistake of trying to copy the narrative of the game, albeit in a condensed form. Instead they should have came up with an entirely original story that was tailor made for the medium of a TV series; Video games and film/TV are entirely different mediums, after all
I greatly enjoy how in-game, Ren as Joker is a cocky, flamboyant, badass little show-off who taunts his enemies, shows no fear when facing an opponent, and does what he does due to his unquenchable need to help other people, the catalyst to him being able to awaken his Persona and wield Arsene in the first place while Anime Joker is..... kinda tough.... a bit mean...... can fight...... meh....
Point is,
In-Game Joker: Cocky and flamboyant little show-off with a flare for the dramatic and a strong sense of style and grace in what he does
Anime Joker: He knows how to use Personas, wears a mask, and and can use a gun. Yay....
Kifflom Dolphin Exactly; I was actually quite disappointed when I saw the casino escape scene at the start of the anime and saw how stoic he was. I already missed the scene in the game where you see the theatrical shot panning up to Joker: perched up high, briefcase under his arm, coat swaying in the breeze and that cocky, mischievous smirk spread across his face before he makes his escape.
In the beginning of the game it kinda feels like joker is trying to be cool and failing or just ending up looking like a goofball but by the casino palace he becomes a cocky badass and I love that.
I would have preferred the anime if Ren was totally written off the story (and Haru too). A silent protagonist with no point in the plot except being the player's insert, why can't you simply TAKE HIM OUT and make Makoto the protagonist?
@EdMarlo Ulpindo I think it was intentional, as they wanted to avoid giving Ren too much of a personality and ruin the "self-insert" he was created to be. If that was what they wanted, they I'd rather want him completely taken off from the anime, rather than him being given a canon name, because a canon name doesn't always mean he's going to be non-silent and to get a good characterization (and he didn't), while completely writing off the silent protagonist means that the party member (Makoto Niijima) that acts as "replacement protagonist" is a good character.
@EdMarlo Ulpindo For Persona 6 the animation I want the protagonist not to appear at all.
While we had a few protagonists like Yu Narukami and Serph from the Quantum Devil Saga book adaptations, who were turned into characters with personality that were even well-written, most protagonists from Megaten are still silent in adaptations or are kept generic to be self-inserts (see for instance Hibiki Kuze, Makoto Yuki or Ren Amamiya). A protagonist that doesn't exist in the anime gives those who want a player avatar their avatar, and to those who want a well-written protagonist for the anime a party member who takes over the protagonist's duties. After all, Persona 5 showed us that half of the cast was an overglorified mouthpiece for Ren
Wow, ok. That "All-out Attack" animation from the anime looks......Wow that's bad compared to the game. XD
Remember kids:
*Don't let people make anime games into animes*
CloudKpop
More like “Don’t let people make games into EXTREMELY BAD anime adaptation”
Let’s be honest if the studio wanted to make a great anime they would definitively do it
Xenoblade chronicles anime would be interesting
Haruhi Suzumiya Wait, are you referring to 1 or 2?
Hai. I remember you. And i agree.
Pokemon
It's heartbreaking that we may never get a P5R anime because nobody could replace Billy's incredible performance as Maruki
Wait, whaaat!?!? Ouch... Googled it... Yeah, thats really sad... That hurts. He was great in the game, the world lost a good one...
As if the English VA's death would ever stop a Japanese studio. In fact, Wikipedia says the Japanese version of P5A recast a few characters whose VAs had passed away.
@@ender7278 Yeah, no it wouldn't. Oh yeah, Chihayas VA died I recall. And one other... Which one was that?
@@amvmaker88 Kaneshiro's Original Seiyu Kazunari Tanaka
If it's made by A1 Animation again i prefer they leave it like that.
Easiest way to sum up this video. If P5 was the Death note anime and P5A was the Death Note live action. There ya go.
which one? There are two live action death note adaptations. One, which was a two-part movie adaption, or two, the Netflix adaptation.
Archangel Gaming ^^ Yes, just say the Netflix version.
Archangel Gaming oh... Oh dear
Manga: P5 manga
Anime: P5 (the game)
Netflix adaption: P5A
@@arsene6514 three actually. there's a full on live action tv series thing
I simply look at it as another gateway into the Persona franchise. I originally got into P4 after watching "the animation" because I was so intrigued in the characters. Its the same with this 1. After watching the Daybreakers OVA I was excited to play the game.
Pretty much the same way I got into the series. Well, that and the Hiimdaisy comic dubs.
I wouldve never given P4 a chance if I saw that animation before-hand- the characters are fried food versions of themselves they sucked.
I have to say while the P4A got me into the game, It was decent enough for me to enjoy even after playing the game. this is just plain insulting. Just like P4AG by the same ppl
This one doesn't even function as a gateway thou...unless you mean that this gate has a giant titanium padlock on it that you have to open with a nuclear bomb to not be deterred by it.
RandomBlackGamer God have you seen the all-out attack tho....
The cutscenes in persona 5 were better quality than the anime
edit: akira is better and I had a crush on him in the game
The anime is shit
tbh i dont understand how someone could have a crush on the MC since you are controlling the character so its your own personality which controlls his decisions. Well, accept when you should go to bed...
@@zema9401 Because Akira himself is a character, not just another RPG protagonist.
@@danielcrosby4035 He is rather boring in the anime so he is as neutral as possible personality-wise and in the game he follows your own actions. Still no reason to have a crush. I know that he is a character but that doesnt change the fact
@@zema9401 Don't you think she/he has a crush on Akira for his looks?
@@zema9401 Why I dont have a crush on him, I totally understand why he is more than just a medium as he does actually have a personality as Joker, from the way he theatrically move and interact to the few uncontrollable parts like at the beginning from him standing up to against an adult to his catchohrase "The show's over!" All clearly demonstrates a personality. Even his Persona Arsène gives him more as we all know that a persona is your hidden self and compared to the others Mc's, he isn't a Wild Card by going with the flow or obediently follows but he is one by putting a mask to hide his true self and appear as someone else. Joker forcefully lies to the persona to make a mask to rely upon if a new problem arise. He's the puppeter of the show, the phantom of the opera and the leader in the shadow directing a rebellion against society. So yes, he does have a personality.
5 to 10 hours....? IT'S FREAKING 100+ HOURS
Ikr, there is no way someone can complete the game 💯
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I think he is talking about the first palace
He is talking about EACH palace, he compares 5-10 hrs in game to 2 hrs in anime
Lmao really 😂
It's only 100+ hours due to the forced side chore content. The meat of the game that revolved around the main plot was hardly more than 30+ hours.
Said it at 2:37
The wiki summery of the game's plot is the most faithful adaptation of Persona 5. They cut a lot of stuff out, but they kept what mattered.
Joker has more personality in the game than in the anime, even being silent there.
Joker is a sassy bitch in the game which is why i love him
@@squidsona8509 but he still deserved spoken dubbed lines. Silent protagonists is a dumb idea.
@@locked89 how is it dumb?
locked89 “Silent protagonists is a dumb idea”. That’s why so many games with silent protagonists make so much money right?
ImFxrr They didn’t think before typing.
Geoff: "Don't even get me started on the opening"
A1 Pictures: "O shit" (immediately changes opening)
alex haggerty Even the new one is pretty meh
alex haggerty lol
By comparison, the newer opening is better, in my opinion.
Still bad though.
Yeah I noticed that, how weird. Did they change it because people complained or was the previous one just a placeholder? Does that mean the opening seriously wasn't completed until the fourth episode? Just how tight a schedule is this anime being made on?
Persona 5 itself is a anime.
Living a honest high school life = Slice of Life anime
The Metaverse = Isekai Anime
Persona = Jojo Stands
A n d y S
Side quests and unimportant shadows: filler episodes in every anime.
Talking about JoJo I wonder how the anime would have turned out if it was produced by David Pro instead of A-1. Every point that the game masters and P5A flaws (Opening, musical direction, visuals, sfx, etc) is managed very well in the JoJo adaptation.
I know that JoJo isn't an anime with a mainly God tier animation (It does have god tier moments but almost everytime is standard) but the direction manages to make its better aspects compliment its flaws.
Its been said over and over but just play the game guys. They can't fit a 100+ hr game into a 24 episode anime.
Angel Pacheco persona 4 animation did really good tho
GG-27 but I wouldn’t consider persona 4 a 100 plus hour game. Generally speaking this is supposed to be a brief taste of what you will experience if you wanna play the game. Will they leave some stuff out? Of course, Persona 5 the Animation is basically a commoner’s approach to the material its merchandising (much like Pokémon with its game and YuGiOh with its trading cards) Persona 5 the Animation’s main goal is to sell you a product that you want to invest. After all the way they approach the anime appears like so. Much like Persona 4 the Animation and Persona 4 the Golden Animation, Persona 5 the Animation is to give you a take on the game and if you want to emulate or create a different approach then you can buy the game and play it yourself. It’s the main rule when it comes to product-based Anime.
persona series is full of repetitive pointless stuff, so you can remove 60 hours from that.
The did it before with P4. To be fair, the P4 game had a lot of useless filler that could have been on the cutting room floor to begin with.
RyuSaarva you obviously haven’t played it...
In the words of the penguin from Madagascar:
"Well this sucks"
Justin Y. I saw you everywhere
Asking someone to kill themself just because they fucking comment shit on youtube?
Justin you sly bastard
Every. Single. Video!
Holy Moly you're everywhere It's both crazy and hilarious.
I really don't like how they handled Ren. In the game he had a lot of funny and sarcastic comments. He was snarky and I couldn't wait to see what he would say. Even the other characters knew he had a mouth on him. There was one scene in the anime where he got so used to taking off masks he almost did it in reality. I wanted more of that!
They also down graded scenes like where Mishima blabbed about Komoshida. You don't hear what happened in the anime when Ryuji and Ren found out so its nothing big for the audience when it was a big deal in the game. You could feel Ryuji's anger when its implied the worst happened, that's why you got angry with him in the game. You get nothing like that in the show.
Then there's the animation, I understand you can't make it like the game, but the all out attack needed work, but I really didn't like the lighting. I felt like giving the characters an umbrella because it was so dark anytime an episode came on.
also... HIS NAME ISNT REN
@@dylangraham6188 its his canon name lmao
@@ey3ri1n no it's not, its Akira but whatever
@@dylangraham6188 whatever you say dude
@@ey3ri1n In the game his cannon name is Akira and Ren is his cannon name in the anime. They are both cannon (tho I think Akira fits him much better)
I just start playing P5R, SUPERB! Loving it!
I heard it got an anime, watch it, I die when i see the all out attack anime version...
omg its so bad
yep
remeber kids dont watch anime
Of course when they dubbed it they fixed that problem
@@boyyeeemamama137 persona 5 is anime game
Like P5 in general is bad compared to previous Persona games especially Persona 1 & 2 and all other Shin Megami Tensei.
I wasn't expecting much from P5A, and I was still let down. All I wanted was some good action, man. Why couldn't they give me some good action? That's something A1 *can* do.
every game that turns to anime always fail, how i feel there is exceptions, but these anime shouldn't exist its just better to "PLAY THE GAME"
Android 19 I can't trust your judgement you have a sans profile pic
Well for this season Caligula seems to me a pretty good game adaptation and the original was written by the writer of Persona 1 and 2.
Nope. They can't. Good action is rare in A1 shows. Don't get distracted by the few Apo fights they did well.
Yeah, I don't mind the fast pace the story progresses at, but they NEED to put more effort into animating the fights and demons.
I don't really think anything persona 5 related has a right to look standard. The game flagrantly defies what is to be expected stylistically from a JRPG, taking style to a new level. The game itself is about defying the opressive grip of authority and expressing yourself in the way you feel is right, so what is the irony that the anime not only looks standard but is stiffly animated, cheap and lifeless? Just look at the opening to the Game, that could've been what the whole show looked like this abstract, symbolic representation of the themes at play with in the story, but instead the decided to play it so safe which is antithetical to the very ideas that P5 thrives on. Why does the sky need to be blue why do the character need look on model, why do the buildings need to look so generic? Go crazy, have fun, you would've made a bigger impact doing that than trying to adhere to what is expected. Hell even the promo looked like it would've been a better style for the anime than what they went for. Such wasted potential.
Marche800 dude you played the game right can you help me ??? Looking for the 3rd hideout jn shibuya it's not on my map yet
Marche800 ok, you’re exaggerating. You’re talking like this game was some milestone for jrpg’s.... it really isn’t. It’s one of the best recent jrpg’s, but don’t talk like it’ll go down in video game history as legendary as something like Chrono Trigger or FF7.
Baba Bobo Am I exaggerating? I'm of the mind that the aesthetic of Persona 5 is going to loom over every RPG I play from now on. It sets a pretty dominant precendent in that regard. If an rpg doesn't have a strong aesthetic it will always have something inferior to P5. Now I'm not saying it redefined the genre entirely but neither did FF7, FF7 just popularized the RPG genre and pushed it towards the 3D era but as far as gameplay and story it was fairly standard when compared to the previous games. Other games did the the same or even more that FF7 but because of how popular FF7 was the changes it brought were more prolific and set a standard.
Marche800 it’s cool that you think Persona 5 is that great. I like it quite a bit myself (although I think P4 is superior, and is better in every aspect besides graphics and gameplay); but don’t be mistaken in thinking it’ll be nearly as celebrated as the other jrpg’s that truly defined the genre. It’s just a really good game, nothing special; we get tons of those over the years. Again, it’s cool you think it’s revolutionary, but it’s just another popular game of the year that’ll be somewhat forgotten by the masses in the years to come, much like the Arkham games, or Nier: Automata.
Baba Bobo Again it's not that I think that it's revolutionary in its own, it's that I think it's presentation is revolutionary and it should become an industry standard to create a unique and rich aesthetic for your RPG instead of going the generic status quo.
Also you mentioned NieR automata but that game borrows heavily from pre established ideas in both gaming as a whole and the Drakengard/NieR franchise. Gameplay wise it's pretty standard platinum fare and it's tone, themes and writing style are thing that were explored pretty heavily in the previous games but, like Final Fantasy 7, it only seems revolutionary because Automata was popular and heavily regarded. The same is true for Persona 5 in a lot of ways, it's a audience and critical darling, so even though it did a lot of things that the previous games established those elements that were overlooked in the previous games are brought to the forefront and attributed to P5 because of its popularity. For a lot of people Persona 5 is there first Persona game and so the elements present in the previous games will appear brand new to them and given that their first experience was with 5 they will likely attribute that feeling with Persona 5. It's like how many people still think back to their experience with persona 3 when they talk about what so great about Persona. If those same people go on to make game ormf storues of their own there's a great chance that it'll be inspired by Persona 5. It may seem like a Renaissance for of veteran fans but to newcomers, to which there are a lot of, it's all brand new.
I think the Persona 4 animation was a pretty good homage to the game itself which made it a shame how Persona 5 animation turned out.
@Aaron9 persona 5 is literally the worst persona game
Aaron9 you are one stupid fuck
Gameplay wise, P5 definitely beats P4. On the other hand, I prefer P4's setting, and characters.
Manuel Madrid That’s definitely not true. I think it goes 3,5,4,eternal punishment,innocent sin,1.
@Aaron9 Persona 4 is a both a better game and a better anime bruh
Persona 5 starring
Protagonist dude
Bone man
Cat
Cat 2
Paint boi
Bike bih
Hackr
And
Cowboy
And Protagonist Friend That Secratly Hate Him
@@Droub_ You mean Kira in disguise?
@@TheMetastasia LOL
And dead clown
Well Cowgirl instead of Cowboy
Apparently that openings getting an update in Episode 4, so it could be much better. Unless you’re saying the song itself is bad, in which case you’re objectively wrong, that song is great.
Mysterious Jojo it’s good, but it’s not as lively as the opening theme for the game.
Mysterious Jojo Wake Up Get Up Get Out There was a better song no matter how great, and the anime can never match the godly visuals. Persona 5: the Animation could have been great if under a better studio and staff however.
Merciless Mode As long as the visuals for the opening are fixed I’d still give it a pass or just straight up rip the game’s opening and paste it on.
MB has never been much of a music guy, he mostly focuses on visuals. And he's right on that front, the OP's visuals are garbage rn. ESPECIALLY when compared to the amazing game OP.
It is a good song but it's a slow mellow song and it doesn't work with the fast paced exciting persona 5
Honestly Akira (We don’t call him the R name on this Christian server) is the ultimate sass.
In the game or in the anime?
Ren amamiya 😀
Akira is the sass master.
Ren is typical bland A-1 protag.
Even though the anime is shit, Ren is the canon name for Joker now. You all have to deal with that. (tbh, It's a better name in general in my opinion, The surname literally means "Rain Palace" how neat is that.)
Silent in the game yet so cocky at the same time like when the teacher throws the chalk and he dodges it.
Can't believe I wasted my time watching a video explaining how P5A is a waste of time. Can't believe I wasted my time commenting on this either.
Cant believe im wasting my time on living too
I can't believe it's not butter.
I can't believe I wasted time reading and commenting on a waste of time comment that was about this video being a waste of time.
@N GUY i belive that persona 4 golden had a better story and was better on a handheld like the psvita where the new game p5 is on a worse system for portability and has a worse but still excelent story, but i think that persona 5 has better gameplay both in the social asspect and the fighting aspect as well as the dungeon exploring aspect so it was easier to finish persona 5 for me but the story as a whole wasnt as great. it wasnt trying to be though. it had villans that were not sympathetic and although that is what it was trying to do sympathetic villans like in persona 4 golden are better for an engaging story. both games are great but i like persona 5 as a game better and persona 4 golden better as a story
N GUY I wish I could make you eat your own words.
How to save the anime.
"So why is this model gun working only in the metaverse mona?"
"Basically our mind amplifies the power by thinking its a real gun. The more realistic it feels the more amplified it is, like palaces!"
"So that means that someone with strong cognition can make fantasy weapons work?"
"Yes?"
"Right, so that's why Akechi uses lazer swords"
"ITS A LIGHTSABER!"
"SAME THING!"
This is how it should have been but the reality is that.
"So why do our guns work in the metaverse?"
"I'l explain it to you later."
"WHY LATER AND NOT NOW? WE HAVE ALL THE TIME MONA!"
btw Akechi has a lightsaber when he's disguised as a Phantom Thief because he views the Phantom Thieves as childish
@@Stei_n Nice. But doesn't Akechi also use lightsabers dressed as Black Mask in Royal or in his fight?
@@mat8791 I'm pretty sure it's a long red multiple edged blade
@@CrimsonTy The blade is a serrated sword, like a k-bar knife.
I’m pretty sure Akechi uses a lightsaber because he basically got his childhood stolen away from him when he was passed around homes like a basketball, never actually getting to experience real home. Also probably why he also has a Laser Gun.
"Whose name is, and always will be, Akira"
Oh god finally someone understand this
We should All Laugh At the Idiot's that call Akira kurusu Ren Amamia that's just About As much Attention they Diserve
@@KingofYggdrasil we dont care that it sounds more japanese Akira just sounds better
@@wah8974 I think Akira Kurusu sounds more edgier, that's why I prefer Ren
@@StormDracoX I like the meaning of Ren: Lotus. I think it fits with Joker well.
In-game Joker, that is.
Anime Ren should just be called paper.
Just like how Minato Arisato will always be Minato Arisato. Not that Makoto Yuki shit
The Persona 4 Animation felt needed and welcomed! It gave Yuu a personality that seemed like he was many things that you could imagine him being in the game. Cool, confident, caring, a bit of a dry goof. I loved him! And like was mentioned, because the original game was on the ps2, what happened with Nanako didn't have the same punch that the anime did. I cried my eyes out. It was so heartbreaking.
Yup! Both were absolutely masterpieces! It's one of the best adaptations of the game!
Nanako's death in anime hits harder in the anime because you didn't see Nanako resurrection. Yu sparing Namatame while Nanako still dead, makes him question his choice.
A-1 has a problem with making *boring anime*.
a thing persona isn’t boring 😕
@Kaze Kanata Yours is aswell.
@CopyrightStrike FkingSucks And I didn't say that you said Persona is boring.
@@JazzStation95 I think madhouse could do the series justice, but I don't know what they have been up to lately.
Don't worry atleast they are not making persona 5 "Live Action".
persona 3 the movies and persona 4 the animation were godlike, wtf happened with 5 lmao
movie premium budget hello ?
A-1 happened
Impression of a first time Persona 5 fan or non-watcher of the game/anime:
"I'm so confused."
"Why does that guy(Ren) seem like he knows everything?"
"Who are these twins?"
"Why does that guy hate the teacher?"
"What exactly is the metaverse?"
"Why does the cat keep saying he's not a cat?"
"Why is the teacher an a-hole?"
To be honest, a lot of this either didn't confuse me or didn't bother me. The teacher questions seemed pretty obvious to me once the whole "views school as his castle" thing was dropped, the metaverse was obviously a uniVERSE of META-cognition (reinforced by calling it the "cognitive world"), the cat... really, I've seen "obviously anthro animals" vehemently deny that they are that animal in too many ways to have this bother me, and the Velvet Room...
Okay, obviously I saw more than just the anime if I'm familiar with that title, but the intro of the LP was as far as I got before growing tired of it.
I mean I don't have a PS4 nor do I want to see someone else play a game with minimal commentary so I just choose the anime
Indira Turner I literally never even heard of persona and thought none of these things
No...?
Uhhh...
Oh God. Those all-out attacks are hurting my soul. They look like cheap chinese knock-off compared to the actual in-game animations. How is that even possible ?!
Apathetic animation. It's clear this adaptation was cranked out with a C-grade effort of "Well as long as we jsut put in everything we need to, it'll pass." Like a kid rephrasing a wikipedia article into his own words for a book report. There is no love being put into this adaptation and it shows, especially compared to P4A.
"Whose name is and always will be Akira" amen.
AuraCreed my faith in the persona fandom has been restored. Take that, Rentards
-I’m not actually attacking to the people who prefer the name Ren, just take a jab to idiots who forced their opinions on Joker to be Ren and call them Akiratards-
As much as I prefer "Akira Kurusu", I also like the meaning behind "Ren Amamiya". Apparently it means Lotus, Rain, and Palace. Palace is obvious, Rain I'm guessing is meaning to make something fall (the palaces), and the Lotus is a symbol of purity and cleansing in Buddhism. I personally think going for something around the word Trickster or Thief would've been more fitting, kinda like how Narukami meant "howling god" and was the name of the Japanese god of thunder, and Izanagi was a lightning persona based on a god.
Amen
Just call him Protagonist. :)
Gamegerelateerde Nerd I just call him Joker. It's canon and simple.
It's notable that the P4 protagonist is the only Persona MC to have one name stick. Nobody calls him Souji Seta instead of Yu Narukami. Meanwhile, we still have Minato Arisato/Makoto Yuuki arguments over a decade later, and I think that we will have Ren Amamiya/Akira Kurusu arguments for a very long while as well.
You wanna know why? Yu Narukami left an impression on the viewers with his goofy and funny dialogue. He held a presence within the story. Meanwhile, Akira and Ren are completely different.
...........lol what corners have you been poking around, I have seen *way more* of people switching between Yu and Souji then i ever do with Makoto and Minato. Like I agree it does the best of the animes adaption wise, for still being meh, but yeah no I see people swap around all the names plenty enough 😂
thats because the p4 anime was actually good despite being short
In reality, it was because all the spin-offs of Persona 4, many, many of them, used the Yu Narukami name, while only Persona Q2 and I think Persona 5 Dancing in Starlight uses the Ren Amamiya name, while Strikers lets you name him however you want. Also, for a *long* time, Akira Kurusu was the only name and folks just got used to them.
All these complaints and here I am waiting for a Persona 1 and 2 Remake
オオサキナマコ you can never forget smt 2 but I loved persona revelations
I would much rather have a remake of 3. 3-5 are honestly much better than 1 and 2.
=PSP Versions
@@Tofuey well, not story wise, at least I have heard about p2 duology being the best game story wise.
Nah either 3 or 4 remake
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"Like watching someone else play a JRPG with slightly more camera movement"
I didn't play Persona 5 directly, I sat on the couch and coached my roommate through it due to our different skillsets. That being said, I can say with 100% certainty, that your statement is an insult to watching someone else play a JRPG.
Mothersbasenent: "The 10 hour long game"
Me:(looks at second playthrough file of 200+ hours)
10 hours long? The WR speedrun for p5/p5r is about 16 hours, give or take.
He speedrun the speedrun of the game
He meant 10 hours per Palace
@@ggs27 Yes he feeds on 10 hours per palace
@@slavishentity6705 Haha didn't notice my typo
*YOU STILL OWE US AN ERASED ED BREAKDOWN GEOFF*
Yes, I'm still wrapping my head around it
Well said Connor but why did you reply to this comment to say that
ew Erased
What about that ghost in the shell what's in an op?
There are other videos he has promised, but has yet to provide, such as a second part of his analysis of Space Brother's OPs.
I started watching P5A as it first aired, enormously excited to see my favorite game get an anime adaptation. But oh, was I disappointed, I kept watching for a while until episode 13, but then just dropped it, and couldn't find the desire to pick it up again. The animation was boring, and it didn't have the color or the style that the game had. The game was imo, superior in every conceivable way.
Should of let Ufotable make it.
Giantspaz *should have
*should've
Giantspaz the art style is different
Shaft would've probably nailed the aesthetic better though
you do realize that UBW was a horrible adaptation
while the anime is definitely okay at best it did get me interested enough in the story that I went out and brought the game for myself, so in that respect it accomplishes it goal in creating hype for the original source material
Just put money in Persona 1-2-3 remakes, not anime smh
I wish I could play Persona 3 but I can't get a port of it on my PS4. Plus I heard P4 improved on the P3 game mechanics so I don't want to feel like I'm playing a down graded game. But a remaster would solve all of that.
If the protagonists were characters in the games, the games could be much better and there wqouldn0't be any need for the anime
I want them to be real characters on their own. In the anime Yu was an actual character, even though Makoto in the movie was still silent (he had a few lines, but roughly the same as Ren in the game), and in the adaptations, the other non-Yu Persona MCs lacked the choices, but their mutism was explained with plot reasons, such as Souji in the manga being born with damaged vocal chords, or Yu from the Golden Animation being born mute, or who knows.
As for the protagonist in P6 I hope he'll be an actual character (or who knows, TWO actual characters!), but, if he's going to be silent in the game, then I think the anime won't make another exception like Yu, instead giving him only facial expressions a la Wind Waker but no dialogue whatsoever. Like the protagonist in P1 manga and unlike Yu, I also think the P6MC might stay unnamed in the anime.
As for Ren, I think they might retconnect him as an actual mute in spinoffs and have Futaba speak for him.
RPGs with pre-established protagonists are very rare nowadays. Even Tales switched to a silent after Xillia!
And even Xenoblade X and 2 had character creation, and they are the sequels of Xenosaga, which never had mutes!
I would prefer for them to animate Persona 2 Innocent sin and Eternal punishment, although i think it would also suffer because of how much content both games have like P5. At least P3 fared better being a film, P4 wasn't bad but some episodes and the animation felt meh unlike the game.
Jun Taiohara I'd say Atlus should just go ahead and make a remake of persona 1 and both the persona 2's . Will be better than a anime.
^ Same. I bought P1 on PSP, and both parts of P2 on PSN a few years back. I like to think I can get over old game mechanics to a degree, but they just feel so inaccessible by today's standards.
Seven_Martinez I'm fifty fifty about the remake idea, it sounds good cause it could reintroduce the p1 p2 games again and attract gamers with a new look sticking with the same story, but at the same time I'm not very keen about it since I'm really attached to the old game mechanics and its old unique style. I remember playing my first persona game on the ps1 and it was innocent sin, thing is it was in Japanese cause of the issue of not being localized, it was hard getting by not understanding anything but my big brother was mainly playing it too so we got the handle of it, luckily the psp versions were released, understanding the game made it a thousand times enjoyable then it already was.
p2 is fine but p1 is bullshit
Honestly, I think an anime studio COULD make a good anime out of Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment, for a couple reasons; a) no social links, so all the charactization happens IN the main storyline, b) those games take place over a MUCH shorter period of time, rather than almost a full year, and c) most places and events in P4 and P5 were essential to the plot structure, so you could rarely condense things, but in Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment, there are some plot points and areas that could fessiblly be shuffled around and combined without losing anything, especially since the game isn't played on a calendar system, so if you move stuff around there's no "what on earth were the characters doing for that WHOLE MONTH-LONG GAP OF TIME???"
Still better then Trinity Soul.
Adam Batey That's not an excuse for poor quality and laziness.
That's a low bar it's like saying "well at least this food taste better than shit."
Even that had some funny dumb shit like the whale feathers and drawing forth your Persona being a sex metaphor.
Adam Batey I agree by the way I like your avatar
Trinity Soul? That's just a legend, like Persona 1 and 2
There's actually less excuse for this anime's low quality considering the Persona 4 anime was a masterpiece. In fact, I never played the Persona 4 game and I wasn't lost at all
You can actually Persona 4 golden now! For it is released on PC. Persona 4's the best.
All the anime has done is make me want to replay the game. And not in a hype way either but in a "I need the better version" way.
I haven't heard much about if it's good or bad, but there's also the P5 manga.
Aaaand the Kamoshida Battle was absolutely terrible.
Keihzaru
P4A did better, tbh
And it was still mediocre.
My memory of P4A is that it did basically the same thing, line up Persona and shoot energy at things.
Mother's Basement: Well to be completely fair, we haven't seen Kamoshida's boss battle yet.
Me: *Hoo Boy!!!* You'll *never see it coming* to how much of a disappointment it was.
Well, Persona 4 Arena _is_ a fighting game sooooo.... That's kinda what happens.
tfw no sassy rebellious anime joker
There's no fucking excuse, even the P3 MC in the anime was more entertaining then P5A MC.
They're going for gradual characte development. Sassy Joker only appears in the Metaverse, and the anime avoids the metaverse
@@vittoriopugliese3352 he has plenty of sassy dialogue options in the real world.
@@vittoriopugliese3352 I realize that this is a year-old comment, but "Something witty" is like, peak real world sass.
The battles should be more like Jojo’s Bazaar Adventure
BAZAAR 🤣
@@shane658 i mean, to be fair, that's accurate to a good chunk of part 3
How did they manage to make the P3 movies actually okay (putting more focus on the main cast, I especially liked how they fleshed out Ken and Shinji's relationship more) but turn this into a soulless adaptation? For god's sake the game was praised for how much it was bursting with visual charm. Instead we get the most bland, lifeless interactions and every bit goes from point A to point B without a single pause. Pacing is moving horribly fast and the characters seem to barely even register each other's presence. What the hell happened?
edit: I'm glad i'm not the only one who was actually kind of let down by the opening. the music starts off interesting but becomes predictable 20 seconds in and the opening is LITERALLY just animated official art.
Different studios, different directors, different amount of time given to work on the product. Also this is the studio that game us the Persona 4 Golden Animation, and that was 12 kinds of mediocre (except the bad ending episode). It's really a shame they couldn't bring us something on par with the Daybreakers OVA, but its almost definitely cause they rushed the damn show out like crazy.
Weren't those from a different studio, by a different director, with a different staff?
The only movie in the series that had a different studio was the first one. After that, the remaining three were all animated by A-1 Pictures.
It could be the fact that three directors worked on the movies (1, 2, 3/4 all had separate directors). Regardless, they still did a much better job. This anime is just a total disappointment for anyone who has played the game. Even if you haven't, going from the anime to the game will be a shame, because you already know the events that will occur but they won't evoke the same sort of emotion.
It doesn't help that again, the game also had brilliant art direction that looked so good when playing. If they can't capture the aesthetic that helped push the game into the mainstream, what's even the point of making the show? That's be like if an "Oyasumi Punpun" anime just completely did away with the bird head - why would you even do that?
Of course the P3 movies are better.....since they're movies and are held to a greater standard.
P3 was beautiful, yes but everything else about it was trash
I need sassy Akira back
SNB Sixteen6stars I will now predict that people will call him Akira and Ren fade away in obscurity like Minato from P3
SNB Sixteen6stars Sassy Akira is Best Akira.
SNB Sixteen6stars Sassy Akira > Flat Ren
Akira > Ren any day
How can a silent protagonist be sassy? He isn't, not has he ever been!
I don’t have a PS4 so I watched the anime so I could still experience the creativity of Persona 5. Also so I could understand Joker for Smash
Mitchel Groote same
Dude just watch gameplay it ain’t that hard. And it’s better.
@@mistastetraphobia5625 that's exactly what I did. I didn't have the game and I was thinking of watching the anime but I had a feeling that I should watch the gameplay an then the Anime. And I'm glad i did.
I watched Johneawesome's LP of it. He does a great job!
@@bumblebeebee31 SAME!
That is if they forget A1 pictures made SAO as an anime.
that also if you guys forget the studio who animate P5A is Cloverwork
@@kison7715 OH HO HO
FYI, the entire boatload of projects done by A-1 Pictures (including this one) is just fillers done to fill the gap between every Sword Art Online shows. It's success effectively turn the franchise into their Creator's Pet, where they going to spent more time and budget on it more than anything, which is the reason why SAO looks "cool" while the others look like shit.
Want a proof? Just look at Phantom Bullet compared to other A-1 shows that came in the same year like Aldnoah/Zero and Cinderella Girls. The difference in quality is so striking that it has become cringe inducing.
While you can argue SAO boom has faded for quite a while since it's undoing in form of Aincrad final and the entirety of the Fairy Dance, it still doesn't stop the merchandise section to cash in the meme further by selling high quality figures (espwcially Figmas) and other schtick we will inevitably buy.
Not necessarily. I'll admit it's not great, but the anime actually COULD capitalize on one big problem: the lack of development before and after The Big Stuff with Goro Akechi. He was sort of just a forgotten plot point after a point, not mentioned or anything. Akechi could certainly get a lot more development than P5's english release gave him. They botched a lot of his lines in localization, for example.
So I think it could be a good thing we get more Akechi, and it already seems like we are. That's a pretty big redeeming factor to me, at least. There are definitely some plot points like Akechi the anime could improve on/give us more about, I think.
Char You’re considering your assumption that the game could do more with Akechi as a redeeming factor? Let’s be real. They aren’t going to do anything more with Akechi that the game hasn’t already done.
What lines did they mess up for Akechi?
I second this and raise you: further development for the other party members as well as they were significantly less explored than their counterparts from the previous games in the series.
Not that I disagree with you that they could use the anime to add in more development for all characters (Akechi included), I just don't agree that he lacked with in the game to begin with.
Yes, Akechi.
Geoff, we love you man, thank you for all this great content, but please, give yourself the time you need. You say you lose a lot of sleep for this channel, that's not sustainable. I want you here for the long haul, not for a bright, short burst
The anime made me so angry, I felt almost betrayed. I wish it never existed, I wish it I could remove the absolutely disgraceful mockery of the beloved franchise from existence! And you're absolutely right, his name is Akira, not Ren! Ren is the name of Rachnara's previous host family from Monster Musume, not the name of the P5 Protagonist! Lol
His name is Ren. Sorry.
I still dont get the animes ending could you please explain what that was about?
Omar Dajani it’s not but go off I guess
Sadar yes it is lol. Get the fuck over it booboo.
Omar Dajani no ❤️✨
I only watched the anime because I didn’t have a PS4 at the time that the anime came out.
So many people in the comments saying they don't want to buy a PS4 for it. The PS3 version is practically identical.
or they can use ps3 emulator, p5 is playable there
DDkiki Furolo Money is tight. Some cant afford good pcs to play emulator.
I don't have the money for a PS3 either lmaoooooo
Siegfried Final You don't really need an overly strong PC to play it. You don't even need to have a good GPU as the emulator is mostly dependent on the CPU. I have a 3.1ghz 4440k,8gb of Ram and a potato for the GPU and the game runs fine with some slowdown in crowded areas. Totally playable and was able to finish it.
amr mohamed Mine is a spoiled potato
I guess im the idiot cuz i like this anime even tho the game blew me away last year.
ah well.
RasenRendan X Don't worry, boy, I love it too. Animation looks legit af, opening was great (it managed to make me tear up T_T) and awakenings and action so far gave me the chills. I don't really get why this would be waste of time, because during playing I often thought like; "Man, it sure would be awesome to see P5 animated. Maybe it will be possible someday since P4 has an anime".
RasenRendan X it’s your opinion it’s not like the internet is going to go bad shot crazy over one opinion ha ha
XD i imagine it is hard to keep a straight face typing that
Wait, he said you were an idiot for liking it? I don't recall that.
Nizama this is literally what I thought. I watched the P4 anime in January to get ready for this and I never played P4. I loved it. P5 I'm enjoying a lot too
I'm not a fan of the anime but the dub is actually good! The dub makes the anime more bearable to watch imo.
Especially for Xander Mobus' voice work as Joker. He honestly brings more personality to the character.
dub is always shit
"His name is and always will be Akira"
Damn, what a rebel. Going against the canon name, Souji Seta would be proud.
Some guy with wifi Oh goody, someone who seems to know why Persona protagonists have two canon names.
I don't. Please explain.
Usually what happens is that there will be the manga for the game that has the main character having one name and then when the anime comes out they decide to give them a completely different name.
Why they do this I have no idea.
they only have 1 canon name never 2
the manga names are just made up by the mangaka making the manga and in no way official by Atlus
then when Atlus makes spin offs and anime they make a canon name with a meaning that fits the character and theme of the game
it would probably be a smarter idea to just have a canon name from the start like P2 with Tatsuya and Maya and give you an option to change it if you wanted to. Then there wouldnt be the manga problem
Tatsu Dragneel So, which came first? Yu or Soji? Minato or Makoto? Ren or Akira?
the manga came first however the manga arent officially made by Atlus so nothing included in them should be considered canon
the manga come out around the time the games did iirc
the canon names are
Tatsuya Suou, Maya Amano, Makoto Yuki, Yu Narukami, and Ren Amamiya
the only protag that doesnt have a canon name is P1 Protag (hes called Naoya in the manga however like i said that isnt official)
Yeah I agree with what you said about P5A but P4A is legit way better compared to P5A. It’s funny, still stays true to the games, and is a great way to recap the plot of P4! I still played P4G before watching the anime but I’d still recommend the anime to anyone who hasn’t played the game!
I watched up to the "normal ending". I would've gone for "No One is Alone" if I hadn't sworn to myself that I wouldn't do that without playing the game to the ends first. Man, what a long wait it turned out to be!
Ooooh. Why did you have to remind me of the Ace Attorney anime?
Hey, don't you go dissing an excellent source of memes
Ace Attorney the game : Creative, innovative, and intense master piece of a game no one expected from a game series about lawsuits.
Ace attorney the anime : Pointless, lifeless, low budgeted massive pile of cringe festival.
Season 2 confirmed
P4 golden anyone?
I watched that. I thought it was good.
I really don't like the game mechanics they use and have no interest in the game, but the quirky characters and cases are fun to watch
It gives us gamers who beat the game a few hours to kill for missing the game
I wished P5A was cut into three-four seasons so that it could entirely compass with the game.
This sounds familiar to how the Danganronpa anime was handled. Basically, they made it an abridged version of the game, cutting out what made the games so loveable. And the same thing happened to the P5 anime. Rest in Pieces....
Brazguard3 akaBG3 but at least danganronpa had danganronpa 3 which were 2 fairly decent anime
There's two general problems with video game adaptations that studios haven't solved yet. Both have to do with the simple question of why you are adapting.
Firstly the audiance of a video game adaptation will be gamers. People who have played the game. Sure if your'e adaptation is well enough recieved by this audiance you might tap into the general public but you need to start here. The problem is that most studio executives don't understand that games are a modern artform fully able to tell a story as good as or better then the medium of film. They seem to think that the hook of the show will be seeing the game told in a fleshed out story.. you know.. the thing that games have already.
The second is that while an adaptation of say a book to film ads something, audio and visuals (yes the book will usually be better and deeper but there is a technical reason for adapting) with games however you have both of these things. Games adapted to film usually just remove a quality, the audio and sound is in the game, so is the story so the film-medium only removes the aspect of player interaction. Gamers don't want to see some famous actor or animated figure as their favourite carachter when they themselves are used to being the carachter. You simply remove a quality of the game without adding anything substantial (sure you might add better graphics but that's usually doesn't cut it.)..
Film needs to find a reason to adapt source material. They have to realise that games are completaly capable of telling a story and find a way to adapt to film adding something that would not work in a game. Otherwise we will never see a truly great video game adaptation..
The Utte! True; reason why I feel that the best way to do a Silent Hill movie is to make an original story first (and not one that heavily borrows from an existing story). Which is probably why we’ll never get one.
As for adapting games like the Persona series, a reason for watching would probably be changes that improve the story in some way. For example, I think the fight against Shadow Mitsuo in P4: the Animation is done really well. Rather than just doing the fight, the episode focuses on Yu’s fear of the gang splitting up once the case was solved through a hallucination created by the Shadow. This made it all the more satisfying when Yu defeated the Shadow using manifestations of all the bonds he made. It also tied into the main theme of the story more; note that after that fight, Yu is more open to people (including being on a first-name basis with Yosuke).
In fact, most of the Shadow battles are improved just by having the victim conscious. Because now, rather than just beating up the Shadow, the heroes have to first help the victim face their issues (ex. Shadow Yosuke pretty much dominates the fight against Yu/Izanagi until Yosuke admits that the Shadow was telling the truth, weakening him enough for Izanagi to finish him off. Yu also has to protect Yosuke during the battle).
You spelled "character" wrong twice.
I doubt they would remake it. But I can always hold onto that tiny bit of hope.
Hey did you play Persona 5?
"uhm, no but I did watch the anime, it's close enough right? the game is just a graphic novel basically"
yeah, sure. whatever helps you sleep at night
Not to sound like a downer, but the boss fights in the anime are kind of a disappointment. They’re short and anti-climatic. That’s why I skip parts of it.
I've never got this culture of anime fans judging shows with finality after the first 2/3 episodes. I remember watching one of the weebcasts and finding it weird Geoff and the guests were categorically and confidently saying a show was great or awful based only on the very first episode. There're a million shows which have thrown away an interesting initial premise and become trash (Kabaneri, BBK/BRNK) and there are shows that have ditched their initial premise in the first 5 episodes and become even better for it, going on for another 100 (Yu Yu Hakusho). Here there are three episodes of P5A out which is 12% of the show, it could turn around and be great or it could get even worse and be awful, *we don't know yet* .
that's because he and many other already played the game. He knows how much potential it had as an anime. But if the first 3 episodes are badly adapted and rushed af, then it's bad. The fights are beyond horrible. why even watch the anime when a let's play is more fun to watch
It’s just cause big anime fans in general are fucking annoying. Over analyze everything and only “like” the anime that make them scream “Dat ANIMATION!” Never mind the story. If it doesn’t have a lot of detail, it’s shit to them. I wanna go back to the mid 2000’s, when they weren’t every where and so vocal.
Baba Bobo although the criticism with P5 anime is justified. I agree with you, people go way too much in detail nowadays
Baba Bobo We'll you have somewhat of a point but the problem is that P5 the anime does a bad job telling the original games story and doesn't uses it's advantages as an anime. It's just an inferior product in every way.
All hail Steins;Gate. From okay to perfection.
i've recently finished the game and LOVED it so i started watching the anime and it's pretty cool seeing some things animated but i probably wouldn't even enjoy it if i hadn't played the game
"His name will always be Akira"
THANK YOU
Finally a man of quality
@@joaovc2002 I call him Akira Kurusu as well
Atlus says Ren
Thank god. Akira Kurusu forever.
Honestly the Daybreaker OVA made me preorder the game the current animation is painfully bad.
Yeah I agree I gave the anime a chance and its crap
I tried it and as a 12 year old it is beyond garbage
Well, we have the Shadow Kamoshida fight,,, and it sucked too. The fight only lasted about 4 minutes. Joker's ability to use multiple personas is just introduced and shrugged off. Both parties barely do anything before all the sudden Shadow Kamoshida is going in for the killing blow. I think this fight really highlights my issue with P5: The Animation, it is progressing too quickly for it's own good. It's like they are moving way too fast to get all the characters introduced and get the main story of the game going that they are sacrificing necessary character development. I'm really afraid to see how they will handle Haru considering she didn't really get much development time in the game as well.
PeaTearGryfin the anime does not have time? If Persona series could do 40 minute long episodes and over 50 episodes then they could prolong the battles. But they have only 24 minutes and 24 episodes to handle Persona 5 from the beginning to the end.
Riku Väkeväinen
I'd like to point you towards Persona 4 the Animation: which had prolonged battles and decent pacing.
But I will concede that Persona 5 does have the caviat that th dungeons are more importnat than P4's. But still if you can't find a way to put the content in the alotted time in a way that weaves a narative and effectively shows the action in new interesting portayals, then don't bother trying to force EVERY Major Plot point from begining to end, also don't waste time with pointless character additions that serve no purpose than cameo/quota.
If they took their time and made P5 the animation's 24 a season covering half or a third of the game(I will admit that a third is being VERY generous) they could have had the time to deveop the narative, designs elements, and characters properly. Because come on, if P5 the animation was great do you actually think they would hav trouble getting another season?
Kage1713 "sigh" that's why I have given up on comparing manga to anime or game to anime or game to manga. I could spend the rest of my life doing that, but what there awaits me? Nothing.
I figured out long ago that putting exceptions to new version of games or series is waste of time. And if they repeated everything the same way as it was in the game or manga, watching anime would be pointless because I know the story. That's why I am more then happy when they do things differently. It gives me exitment to watch series.
I know that Persona 5 the animation is pane combared to game, but I safe a lot of time thinking that Persona 5 game and Persona 5 the animation are from different universe. I can watch them knowing the plot, but I can enjoy both if them at the same time.
I'm not saying "DO it exactly like this or not at all" I'm saying "don't bother if you're going to take the lazy option" because that's what P5 is doing: putting forth the minimum effort without bothering to make a narative or characterize their MC. That's why I'm complaining they aren't doing anything new, they're doing the same thing from the game but crammed into impactless portions that quicly move onto the next impactless portion, the only new things P5 Animation has done are naratively pointless cameos that waste space in an already cramped run time.
Kage1713 fair point.
All. The. BOOTY SHOTS.
They tried to make up the lack of story somehow.
I actually enjoyed the persona 5 anime
But because I haven’t played the game
Yea I was kinda lost on some things but I really just watched it cause I SERIOUSLY wanted to play the game but I don’t own a PS4, I certainly enjoyed some moments on the anime but I still have plans to play it some day and I just wanted to understand a bit to the plot of it cause I was really in love with it thanks to a video relax alax did and many other influences
Same here!!!
I want to play the game so badly but I don't have ps4 😢😢
Fiza Rizwan it’s on ps3 too
I have a switch but sadly it's not on it D:
If you are like me, you will find that game is more serious and the animation is more of a humour without bitching about the graphic.
"Who has time for a 100 hour game"
Who has time for shit animation
Jokes on you I beat it in 76. (Not helped by having 5 previous playthroughs of Persona 4 Golden)
@@mr.kenway4554 YOU HAVE TO BE JOKING.
@@lambousginiguccigod2007 I had a screenshot of that But it was lost to time
the fact that they can make P4A better is make me disappointed with P5A (especially the fighting scene)
To be honest I watched the anime before the game and I loved the story. I thought the game would be terrible before I even saw the anime and now I really dont
Personally, my biggest complaint in the anime is it's just so ...drab. Sure some areas in P5 had a relatively grey look to illicit certain emotional responses, such as gloomy streets on rainy days, but on the whole it was a very vibrant game. All colours, but specifically red, POPPED and it was a true treat visually.
By comparison, all the colours in P5A seemed very muted. No longer was there that same sense of vibrance, stark contrast, and bold colours, instead everything seemed dark, drab, and dreary. This is perhaps MOST notable in the All-Out Attacks. Why oh why did they get rid of the character specific still frames and change them to a boring all red background for the final frame? It just seems so empty by comparison.
You lost me at "5 to 10 in game hours you spend exploring the world of Tokyo" . Who the hell would get through a persona game that fast? It's a freaking persona game! Anything less than 50 and you weren't playing it right.
I think he might be referring to the time in between each palace being roughly 5 to 10 hours? He also followed it up saying the anime had it cover it in "less than 2 hours" and at the rate it's going, if all they had was 2 hours, everything after Kamoshida would be footnotes at best.
So I'm pretty sure he wasn't talking about the entire game being done in 5 to 10 hours, just some part of it, or something, I dunno.
TheMultiTasker3 I get what you mean but I only said what I said as a joke to extenuate just how freaking long every single persona game is
Vincent Rather I mean, to be fair it was a terrible joke
Xavier Marshall touché
I mean, even if you were rushing through the game, I’m pretty sure you’d still end up over 50 hours.
I think the anime is good enough. There’s just no way they could pack all of the subtleties of the game into the show. For me it just functions as a way to share the experience with friends who I can’t convince to commit to the game :(
Fair enough, but if that's the case, then why bother making an anime of Persona 5?
The characters are cardboards probebly falter then that the pacing is slow the animation compare to the game cutscenes are laughably and even if they can't copy the games fights they can make it better then shoot persona shoot again risen and repeat
Or, if like me, they can't afford it
Just make 40 episodes. "Take your time."
lol, I was like "Eh, this isn't really that bad so fa--" and then it hit the All-Out Attack.
Okay.
P3: Has great animation and a decent plot which makes the viewer feel different emotions by covering all the main points in the game with a great original soundtrack only reusing a few songs.
P4: Decent animation and a wonderful adaptation of the story which made the viewer feel as much emotion and perhaps even more in certain scenes as the games by covering even more than just the main points with brilliant openings and a wonderful original soundtrack which reuses songs from the game a bit more but it works effectively.
P4G: animation quality has gone far downhill, has about 3 good episodes which are all filler and are captured way better in the game. The opening was pretty good and the rest of the soundtrack was too but it wasn't enough to save the anime as a whole
P5: Absolute car crash. Fucking hell it's as if you took the bad parts from the other animes and mixed them into one thing. Animation is poor, soundtrack is used ineffectively and the writing is terrible and extremely simplified making the viewer feel little to no emotion. Had like 3 good jokes in the whole thing and that's all the redeeming qualities it had. Please don't fuck up with Royal.
I freaking love Persona 4! But I disagree with you in the first one. Persona 3 movies were really rushed, they had a pace so fast that if new PLAYER is watching it, he/she wouldn't be able to understand it properly.
Don’t forget about Yu from the first P4 anime, that guy is the king.
My favorite Persona 4 character is Elizabeth.
Oziach I'm dead
Elizabeth is from persona 3
Oziach And my favourite persona 5 character is Teddy.
Skeletal Destroyer 11 TEDDIE FROM PERSONA 4. FOR FUCK SAKE
It was a game theory joke E. BLANCO
I look forward to the day that someone as skilled as Peter Jackson gets a chance to adapt a video game they know as well as Jackson knew Lord of the Rings into a traditional visual medium, and creates a LotR-style masterpiece that brings enough credibility to both video game adaptations that more people actually _put in effort_ when working on them. Until then, we're going to get a _lot_ of anime and films like this and the Silent Hill movie...
Everyone claiming that Joker's name is Akira or Ren. Im over here like, "Wait, you're not supposed to name him after you?"
Well, Joe, it'd be kinda weird if the Japanese character in the Japanese setting surrounded by people with Japanese names had an English name
@@aionicthunder it was a joke 😂
@@aionicthunder I don’t care if it’s in Japan and I’m surrounded by people with Japanese names, Ima name myself Joe just for the fun of it.
2:12 Triple-Q, back at it again.
Lyrunio typical lmao
"And Then somehow has less-"
Me: please be lines
"Personality"
Me: dang it
I would have axed off Ren completely.
Vittorio Pugliese Why do you keep spamming this? It’s so dumb
@@renamamiya5997 I know it's fumb but keeping Ren in the anime withut giving him any sort of added personality is even more dumb.
Play the game >> watching someone play it on youtube >>>>>>> watch the anime
Having beaten the game thrice on vanilla p5, and twice on royal, I think I'm the only person this show is for. Especially with the dub now out, the animation feels evocative of the moments of the games for someone that's SO FAMILIAR with what happens and the actual fleshed out story and character beats. I think the performances in the dub are phenomenal and make the animation worth watching on their own merit
Yea