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"Take on the role of IDAP explosive specialist Nathan MacDade, who is tasked with identifying and deactivating mines after the war in the Republic of Altis & Stratis has ended. While you are being interviewed by an investigative journalist, you will uncover what happened in the town of Oreokastro, experiencing the events from the perspective of various sides, in recollections that span multiple periods of time." - arma3.com/dlc/lawsofwar
Let me know what you think of the endings and who was to blame for the suffering in the town? Please post below your opinion.
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This DLC was so surprising to me! Most of the games, even the "East Wind" campaign of ArmA 3, depicted manichean situations, with heroes and villains... I found this so refreshing! And each side had reasons to act like they did :
-NATO tryed to avoid collateral damages, but their presence in Altis made the population become hostile, creating FIA, so somehow causing the war.
-FIA used civilians as human-shields, hiding in the village, and attacked humanitarian deliveries, which is a crime. So, because they thought they had better ideas than the actual government, they caused a massacre. But if you can't rebel, the government can take advantage of the situation.
-Too bad, CSAT doesn't give a fuck about the civs and bombed the village. Actually, I didn't find any good reason for CSAT to act, so I think they're the ones to blame.
-Anyway, AAF dropped papers with a drone, saying that if you stay, you're considerated as a member of FIA. So after the cluster bomb, they tryed to kill the unarmed civilian (Markus if I remember correctly), who could have left the village, but he chose to stay. Maybe I'm wrong with this part. But anyway, AAF were fighting rebel forces, they had a reason, at least.
The 2 survivors of AAF we saw at the end HAD to use those cluster mines, or they would have died! Sure it's horrible for the ones who walk in the minefield after the war, but if my life was threatened, and if it was the only solution, I don't know what I would have done, honestly. Because they couldn't have known that a civilian would come back in a ghost-town, looking for his brother!
Anyway, if one of you beared my bad english, I would like to know your point of view on all of this !
I choose to believe that it was Miller instead of CSAT that lazed the town as was hinted at the end of that mission. As you said CSAT had no reason but NATO did. NATO was fighting the FIA it was in their interest
@rn3631 Not yet this was before East Wind
@@thecommunistdoggo1008 But Miller isn't really NATO. He's secretly CTNG (Combat Technology Research Group), so he isn't an option, although he even could be a main culprit of the war, for all we know and we don't know he did.
@@santiagorojaspiaggio CTRG is under the NATO command. They're NATO black ops secret squirrel stuff but they're definitely NATO. Access to all NATO hardware
The castle was for sure CSAT, katiba's use caseless rounds, so makes sense they didn't find any trace of their munitions, and FIA is known to use NATO munitions and sometimes weapons.
Tho It would make a hell of a Story involving Viper team and CTRG fighting and manipulating altis since the beginning
True, and the EXO's he found were AAF types, meaning AAF called in support from CSAT by the looks of it to take control and mark the target for the AAF, although I get your point of the story aspect of that version, how would a goat herd see a tac team of vipers with full body camo with thermal isolation?
The point is that they *did* find shell casings at the castle - the character emphasises they found "NATO mil-spec" casings (even if you do the mission 100% stealthily where the FIA don't fire back), so I think it was CTRG all along. The cutscene heavily implied it, but didn't actually confirm it officially since your player character - a civilian - isn't supposed to know the truth, but has a suspicion which he doesn't voice (his first assumption is wrong because CTRG wouldn't want to win back favour from a government which leans towards CSAT. Instead, they would actually like the government gotten rid of if they're the friend of their enemy). The fact that that tiny detail is heavily officially hinted means that the developers are trying to give us a major hint to the story, they wouldn't have wasted their time if it wasn't supposed to be a valid suspicion.
Ask yourself this though: who gains from the illegal airstrike on the FIA - an almost pitiful force with hardly any power (at the time of the mission) - and unarmed civilians? CTRG do, not CSAT. That airstrike was really unnecessary and only added fuel to the fire to destabilize the region, which is what CTRG ultimately wanted in an effort to grab the East Wind device from the secret CSAT technology labs. CTRG were very likely to be the cause of the AAF turning on NATO on Stratis island as well - it makes absolutely no sense that the AAF would want to start a war with NATO when they were already packing up and leaving... unless the AAF were attacked first. All we know is that as soon as CTRG arrived via the helicopter (Camp Rogain), within half an hour the island was up in flames and in weeks NATO came back in full-force to oust the AAF from what they thought was an unprovoked aggression, when it was probably the other way around. I think it's too much of a coincidence.
As to how CTRG provoked them? Nobody knows... yet. Maybe that special forces DLC campaign coming up next will reveal something.
Benjin Very good and interesting point of view. I agree
Benjin i realise that they did find NATO Mil-Spec casings. Which are just NATO issue rounds, which the FIA use as well as their weapons, as they sometimes steal supply drops (which was shown, and I can guarantee NATO dropping weapons earlier in the entire thing for the FIA), and the Katiba uses caseLESS ammo, meaning you couldn't find the CSAT 6.5mm Katiba casings, there are none to be found.
Another thing, most FIA weapons use 5.56mm NATO rounds, so yah, no shit they found NATO Mil-Spec casings there.
I really liked this dlc.. When I got to this point, I had to stop and think.. I don't think there is a right answer.. But as for the question of who is MOST to blame? I said AAF. You don't blame the gun maker for a murder, (csat/NATO) and you don't blame a criminal if a cop shoots a hostage.. It's up to the main power to do things right. People do all kinds of crazy things when they are in desperate situations, that's why the people who deal with them need to be trained.
I chose the last one, even if I think guerrillas did a mess
[Calm and melancholy]
there were so many missteps.. older can do is still down on our efforts This Is War.
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I AM FLESH AND I AM BONE DING DING!!!!!!!!!!
thank you for making this video
No problem, got a bit of the Arma 3 Global Mobilization DLC! And soon enough the Contact DLC will be uploaded here! But thanks for the support appreciate it :)
How are you playing this? Did you pre-order and use the dev branch?
Yes I did
nice vid m8
I think AAF is most to blame because Csat bombed Oreokastro to clear it from guerillas and the civs was "collateral damage", but AAF shot non-combatants on purpose. But FIA guys did make the people suffer, they made the city a target.
War
War never changes
lol u stole it from game trailer
+Phoenix or maybe he was quoting Fallout
Outro song? 👀
Dang whats the outro song called?
Glitter and Gold by Barns Courtney
I mean, i think the AAF is the main culprit of the war and all of the conflict. They did the Coup, several years before; they were the first ones to do war crimes and crimes against humanity. But sure, everyone contributed, and most of all, in Oreokastro. Plus, i totally agree with the "This is War" speech. I always tell people i know that there's no black and white in politics, nor in social conflicts, nor in war (generally speaking).
Guys NATO called the air strike didn't you hear it said there were NATO shell casings found (and it showed NATO forces in a flash at the end of the episode)
I don't think they did, it's true that it's suggested on the air strike mission, but the casings belonging to NATO weapons actually means nothing considering guerrillas often used NATO weapons / ammo (CTRG SPAR 16 / 17 use same ammunition as TRG, Mk20 / Mk 18 EBR), you wouldn't find CSAT cases showing their presence since their ammo is caseless (and the bullet itself is the same as NATO), and finally, the explosive shells arond Oreokastro are AAF, who pretty much only obeyed to Akhanteros and CSAT. I think it's just a reference to the confusion caused by the fog of war and how truth can be "the first casualty", but not really that Miller called it in
@@johjoh9270 Here's the thing though, during the mission you use the CSAT laser designator, however the one you find in that little house is the NATO variant... Remember, CTRG had a vast interest in the situation escalating and AAF commiting attrocities to justify a full scale invasion so they could steal the East Wind device off CSAT hands. Like everyone else, I cannot say with full certainty that it was NATO or CSAT, what I can say however is that we learn some pretty nasty things about CTRG, including that Miller's team was responsible for sparking the whole conflict. Like a guy on reddit said, hopefully this next "special forces" DLC will shed some light on the matter.
@@RoyalDart30 oh yeah, I mean, I agree on that and it's true that Miller was the one that caused the shit to blow up in Stratis after doing something in Altis and most likelly killing McKinnon, since you can also see how his team arrived at Maxwell on the Ghosthawk that you can spot from the Little Bird at first mission and his death was required for Miller to be the ranking officer, but I don't think ammo meant anything, and dunno, the laser designator you find in the house... how would they designate Oreokastro from the very same Oreokastro? cause I doubt Miller went back specifically to leave that designator back there, but yeah, as they say, at war, truth is the first casualty
Even more, remember Miller with his black ops bullshit. I think CTRG has done that thing to get eastwind device. But, IMO AAF started that war. I mean, AAF killed a lot of civilians of the Republic and if AAF were more loyal to their population, there wouldn't be any resistance and as the result there wouldn't be any war.
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I think CTRG bombed the village. I mean, what if the guerrilla uses the same weapons tan NATO? It doesn't looks like they have a fighter jet
Mh
Also it's very unlikely that the bombing was made with mortars
It was crealray clearly an airstrike
Orang boys
Csat didnt have reason to do anything maybe cluster bombs were NATO'S