*Meanwhile inside a Challenger 2...* Loader Jenkins: Can we load the HESH now, sir? Commander: FOR THE LAST BLEEDING TIME JENKINS WE NEVER USE HES---- *Leopard 2A5 appears from behind the trees* Commander: WRONG SHELL JENKINS! WRONG SHELL! LOAD THE HESH! Loader Jenkins: APFSDS loaded sir! Commander: YOU ARSE!
Surprise every other nation :D Germany did still the best tanks in the world. one reason why the M1A1 using the rheinmetall cannon and not their own ;) think about the history. Many things come from us.
@@enochvarga7570 abram models sold to other nations like the Leopard 2 are downgraded versions qhich both have suffered losses in those conditions but battlefield result have shown both tanks used by their parent nations has ot had a single tank lost in combat. They have taken casualties and damage but not lost due to enemy action.
doodskie999 funny fact russian HE byas can fuck this tank like a bitch so the russian armor its not stronk but have the possibiliti to kill it like nothing so dont do jokes like this one
@@hazardous458 my last line up was leo 2k, 2a4 and a panther D got almost all rank 10 with the panther, M1, T80B, type 90, both challengers, leo 2a4 it`s such a fun challenge, and it must make other players sooooo mad
German Main : "We Suffers No Longer!" Gaijin: "Oy blyad this is too stronk, must nerf for balance cyka))))" German Main: "NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN!!!!"
Markus Pecher I was going for a “British b*tches” so I combined the 2 words, I also didn’t know britches was an actual word back then (English is not my native language)
33% chance to kill crew in WoT be like: Hans: takes 152mm to the skull. Fritz: HANS! ARE YOU OK!? Hans: 'tis but a flesh wound *entire cranium is missing*
@@Aska1980 Also ich hab den Kommentar gelesen und schreibe einfach mal das ich von 11.1999 bis 10.2001 den 902050 von der 7/104 gefahren bin. Erst war er schrott dann war er top.
Btw these numbers you see are entirely fictional, and roughly double what it had IRL, gaijin said they will change these numbers since the model is very unfinished right now.
@@panzerkampfwagenvitigeri2080 technically the first part of the armor if it gets penned, the shell will be tilted inside the empty space and end up stuck in there not going throught the turret, that's what i understood from a documentary about that tank! very genius but also has weaknesses, coz they made the empty space between the outer armor and the turret longer than the shell , and if there is a more modern shell longer than that space, then that armor will be useless in most cases coz the shell will be long enough to get to the turret before it gets tilted in the empty space between the armor and the turret, well just search up how it's armor works! sry for not explaining it right!
And to think: The Leopard 2A6 gets even more armour, specifically an add on piece of armour on the lower plate, to protect the tank from explosions that occur underneath the tank. I don't know how far War Thunder wants to go, but if they add the 2A6, that will be some good times.
Btw these numbers you see are entirely fictional, and roughly double what it had IRL, gaijin said they will change these numbers since the model is very unfinished right now.
This is just testserver, leo armor is not finished yet. In real life leo has 850 mm tower armor and ~650 hull. I do not know how gaijins will balance it, but Im sure that armor will be not so powerfull.
@@j.b.4835, Actually that is the minimum for the turret because that was leopard 2 improved armor. Realistically it should be around 1,000 to 1,100 base. What people don't realize is that even though it is 800 vs KE there is a good chance it could stop 1000 mm penetrator.
@@j.b.4835 No, ~650 hull is actually and understimated value, ~720mm vs KE is actually the closed value of estimate. Even Polish Army (owns 2A5) claimed it to be impenetrable from the front to any ammunition they have in their storages at point blank (DM33 Improved, more than 550 vs KE) and claimed it to have more than 700 mm vs KE. But i mean, it's a game so.
@@hazardous458 That was L2A5 (IMP)P(Prototyper) with 2A4B armour package, that was still a prototype at that point. While i still agree with your words, C/D package is absolutely superior as it was KE oriented.
Amaciado. The Sherman was 5 to 1 more and the Sherman couldnt pen the tiger at 200m Where as the tiger Could penetrate the sherman at a distance of 3 km
@@acgamer1916 A Sherman 75mm can pen a Tiger at around 4-800m. Not considering the ammunition and power of the shell. The Sherman jumbo could fire further and pen through it as well. It wasn't until late 1944 early 1945 that the Sherman started to have problems.
@@LeNathDuNet This 2A5 will have B-tech turret with probably B-tech hull but mabye C-tech, both penetrateable with top shells so I don't see any problem. If you want T-90 ( not the A cause it's worse than T-80U ingame ) then we need full C-tech 2A5
@@LeNathDuNet We don't know yet. it had full b-tech composite but with extra RHA armor i'm pretty sure it will be a standard version which should look like this: C-tech hull , B-tech turret with D-tech wedges. That would be balanced. But you know what i could accept B-tech hull with more resistant wedges.
@@schattenpelzttd7123 Ok, the a5 has the L55 cannon and the a7+ has the L44 cannon. So basically the a7+ has a shorter barrel,which makes him weaker, but he has a shorter barrel because it was made for urban fights. A shorter barrel is better for fights between houses for example. But the main changes were many technical improvements like a new thermal visor and a better air conditioner for the fight in hotter areas like Syria or Afghanistan. I know, that the shorter barrel is a big difference between the a7+ and the a5, but the biggest changes are only some technical improvements. The a7+ also has a better protection against mines, but this is not necessery for War Thunder. So in conclusion, the a7+ has a weaker cannon (This is bad for War Thunder :D), a better protection against mines, which is not necessary for war thunder, and newer technical devices, which can be necesarry for war thunder (reconnaissance for example). So in general the a7+ is bassicaly the a5 with better technologies.
@@fredkasten1647 the a7 has the longer barrel and the a5 is the kws (kampfwertsteigerung) Variant of the a4 that has the Short Barrel and the Barrel on the a5 is the same as on the a4 and the l/55 is longer since the a6 Just look at Pictures
tiago morais gayjin cock blocked me from the A1A1 by adding that shitty m48 or whatever that phuck, i had started researching it and then they put that thing smack dab in the middle, like phuck off reeeeeeeee
Leo 2A5 is an extremly upgraded Leo 2A4 while the americans still use the same tank with the same weakspots and only puts a tiny amount of armor on it wich is useless
@Dex4Sure Firstly, this is the dev server so everything is going to change anyway. I don't know why every patch people completely lose their minds about stats but there we are. Secondly, you admitted yourself it has more penetration so I wasn't lying when I said it is the best APFSDS round in the game, in fact, you were lying when you accused me of lying. Congratulations, you played yourself. You sound exactly like all of the people who were having a hissy-fit when the Abrams was introduced about it not being strong enough, and turned it into a clubbing machine when it hit the live servers. Conclusion, stop moaning about dev server statistics, it's pointless.
German really learned how to armor xD But with the Heat/HE weakness its still balanced. Fun fact: The 2A5 and later versions were meant to face of Abrams and T90's (secretly) since both Nations don't use HEAT-FS or HESH anymore, at least not much.
Hmm i disagree Heat isn't as effective as you think Hesh just... sucks there I said it!! And Russian HE murders it 1/3rd balanced lol? Germany still fights alongside the Russians all time sooo...
@@eyyze You have it backwards. The Wehrmacht is the Heer(Army), Luftwaffe(Air Force), and Kreigsmarine(Navy). Wehrmacht basically means "Armed Forces".
@@Miraak0Konahrik i swear to lucifer's dick if some shady neo nazi occult mofos do anything about reviving hitler as like one of satan's generals, i'd better wish i go to some shady prefecture in japan even if it means *risk getting raped/eaten by youkai lolis (ya know what im referring to)*
Just learn it's weak spots, you cant expect this game to turn into 1 shot every from the front can you? The Abrams DOMINATED when it was released because nobody knew how to kill it, now they do..
I never had a problem with killing the M1 even when it was added.. I already knew where to aim. But this thing seams to not have a weak spot in front. But yeah I guess not using APFSDS on it will have to do
Pretty much everyone seems to have this in his recommendation. Before the dude from the tank museum in Munster made a video about it, almost noone heard about it. Not even me, who is a huge Leopard and German Military Nerd. There isnt even a Wikipedia page about it. Not even on the Leopard 1s Wiki page.
Actually, it's hollow. The idea is that it acts as spaced armor for HEAT, and destabilizes APFSDS. When APFSDS strikes the outer wall of the wedge, it causes it to tilt up or down. It then strikes the thick turret cheeks at an angle, which reduces its effectiveness. Pretty good idea as long as there are no APFSDS rounds longer than the added armor.
The abrams we have including the soon m1a1 They were basically extensive prototypes if what we have now The difference between the m1/m1a1 and the m1a2 is as follows Stable (unlike the Leo 2a5) 1500mm vs HEAT 800+mm vs KE Front turret and 3/4the amount on the side turret faces Improved turret ring composition making it slightly double of the m1 effectiveness Composite side skirts are now 127mm opposed to currently 65mm-70m Lower glacis like turret now have geometrically formed DU layers So roughly the front of the m1a2 is 1000mm/~700mm ~850mm/~580mm and 35mm-50mm rear Not invincible just reliable not to mention in real life they have space armored cages and other upgrades after $95 billion spent So I'd say the abrams in game currently is just a US sample of the main product
From my understanding angles on the leopards front turret aren't there to bounce like traditional angled armor. They are there to destabilize penetrators as they go through it.
Keep in mind that the effective thickness of the armor varies with the type of penetrator you're using. When I tested APFSDS against the original Abrams, longer penetrators decreased the effective thickness of the armor, even if they had lower penetration than other, shorter ones.
Isoif Stalin The M1A1 has already a huge trump card being its mobility, survivability and gun. Its armour is nowhere near impenetrable. The 2A5 is only slightly slower and its gun is only a little less powerful than M1A1’s, while its armour (turret and upper plate) cannot be penetrated with the A1’s gun in any way. -I’m not a freeaboo, since I play every nation. And from what I see the saying “Germany suffers” is pretty inaccurate, as Axis prop (some jet planes as well - ex. G.91, CL-13) are better than Allied ones. I play both sides and flying 109s doesn’t require as much skill and forward thinking as for example P-51s That’s all.
I love it when TH-camrs put non clickbait thumbnails but when there real and as crazy as this I'm so grateful, so thank you phly for including and not baiting
Why would they? This is a game with make believe numbers where physics don't exist. Front line tank armor composition is Op Sec and unknown and Gaijin is openly admitting their now making stuff up.
The DM 53 can only be shoot from the L55 Gun. The L44 isn't rated for these high Chamber pressures. But old ammunition from the L44 can still be used with the longer L55. So we will have to wait for the 2A6 till we get our hands on the L55 and the DM53 with 800mm pen.
Not really. L44 can shoot DM53 or even DM63. It need chamber and breach modifications but will successfully shoot DM53 and DM63. Of course longer barrel still means higher velocity. So even modified L44 shooting DM63 will be less powerful than L55.
DM53 can be used on L44 gun, it's confirmed by Rheinmetall. DM63 can be used on both L44 and L55, but L44 would need to be upgraded expect for the barrel lenght.
@@jakubw.2779 Maybe Rheinmetall planned such modification. But it certanly did not see service with the German Armed forces. In theory you could shoot a DM 53/63 (Basicly the same projectile, only different propellant) from a L44 Gun but the chamber pressure would most likely result in damage to the Gun aber a few shots.
@@tf-uderpy699 Um maybe, kontakt-1 dosnt help for TOWs, i dont want think about hellfires xD (and hellfires are broken in wt) even kontakt-5 dosnt help, hellfires have fucking 1100pen, and if even its help, its only one time use, where u have 16 tows,hellfires so lmao xD
@@SuiSideex exactly so what does it matter if the Germans don't get a variant of the 2A4 when the outcome is going to be the same with the Germans pretty much always going against the US and have their tanks being killed to asshats in helicopters 2-3kms away with hellfires besides with the new tanks the US, Britain and Russia are getting the Germans are going to need a new tank that is going to be able to compete with them.
There is no known penetrator currently on any tank that can penetrate the turret front of a Leopard 2A5 onwards unless someone makes a longer penetrator, because the way it works is that as long as the penetrator fits inside those frontal add-on armor wedges, it just gets diverted too much to penetrate the composite behind.
This is honestly a more “accurate” representation on how this tank should be lol, now the 2A5 (even the 2A6) feel weak and spongy compared to that of its Russian counterparts anyways.
I feel like that's a fallacy. A modern mbt cannot have 1000mm of kinetic protection around the breach area. Also the turret face armour of a leopard 2a5/6? If I had to guess would be around 800mm, with the added cheese slopes maybe abit over 1000mm. The new Russian t14 armata has 1000mm of straight up composite armour (supposedly) and that has western governments scrambling to design new tanks and has them rattled. It's a big deal cause no other mbt has had that much protection before. Kf51 with the 130mm gun is a direct counter. I'll admit the leopard do feel abit spongey now but honestly the weak spots on Russian tanks in game are pretty easy to hit, provided you're not sniping at 2kms away.
@@unlockingsnow73 i mean the armata is also supposibly weights less then the t90 and t80, i would take what ever the russians put out with a barrel of salt tbh.
Hey phly about the things on the Leos cheeks, they arent for bouncing stuff and in reality that triangle is actually full of empty air, its to break up incoming Sabot darts, when it punches through the dart gets unbalanced and strikes the actual cheek at a poor angle, making it shatter rather than penetrate the tank. Its very neat.
Nah they should just add a different tank, add the 2a4C. The M1A1 is barely better than the M1, just a better gun really, even has worse HEAT protection, but there’s a M1a1HC that has the DU armor. This is something that would go against the M1A2 or something, not the M1a1.
This is currently inaccurate, although a M1A1HA probably would make it a bit more balanced even w/ the real values, but then that may warrant some kind of T-90 for Russia
Btw these numbers you see are entirely fictional, and roughly double what it had IRL, gaijin said they will change these numbers since the model is very unfinished right now.
@@zeph6182 It has same amor as IP .. it is very irritating when people are thinking that dev server stats and final...... + if this thing will be nerfed or atleast will receive some weak spots, abrams will still be above average in terms of battle capabilities.
The arrowhead is empty it's just spaced armour, the trick is the distance between the turret face and peak of the arrowhead is larger than most sabots that hits it thus the shot passes through the arrowhead and tumbles on the inside and hits the turret face at an angle causing the shot to shatter on impact. but a sabot long enough to pierce the arrowhead plate and meet the turret face before it exits the arrowhead will punch through the armour. It's about having the longest sabot
I can say this is kind realistic. I am a tank crew member at spanish army. Our Leopard 2E are 2A6 with improved protection requirements. Add some modules to the hull, increase some internal protection and there u have. Its a fucking moster, but in real world they are less reliable that those in game
Looking at the gun mantle tells me that it is a shot trap on the beveled underside, sending the deflected kinetic penetrator down on the top deck of the hull at close to 90 degrees. Depending on hull thickness there, and reserved KE of the round, that is a probable penetration. The M1 Abrams turret does not have that feature, and incorporates U238 in the armor scheme. To date, however, no A5 or higher model Leopard has been lost to gunfire.
Phly, i have a good challenge for you!! Play the M48 in stock configuration Or if not up to the task, play the M48 using only the APCR shell. Good luck, you will need it Attempt #209!!!!! If you have fun during it i can guarantee you are not doing it right Requesting it before it was cool
Phly, as I have mentioned before, we should try to get Gaijin to let us race/drive in game car models (such as the ones in the new "Alaska" map, and maybe even make more iconic cars of the era) for this upcoming April fools. Its about time we had some stupid fun (like back when the April fools ponies were a thing) instead of "tests for upcoming tanks/planes" fun. Upvote if you agree, Atempt #3
Put simply, this was the winner tank design for world war III. Designed specifically not only to massacre the best MBTs of the Warsaw pact, but to massacre them when heavily outnumbered by them. If a single one had to fight with 5 or even 10 T-64s or T-72s it was surely expected to take some direct hits and survive. Leo's beauty is that it seems to absolutely nail the tank triangle. It had massive firepower with excellent fire control, it was armoured like a fortress, and still - had one of the fastest chassis in the tank world. It really looks like the age old tank triangle of compromise between firepower, mobility and protection did not apply for Leo.
Btw these numbers you see are entirely fictional, and roughly double what it had IRL, gaijin said they will change these numbers since the model is very unfinished right now.
They just put the Berlin wall inside the turret
That's quite accurate
ah it wasn thick
They put two Trabants inside it
@@adamrezek9333 just for the meme
Shhhh... Nobody should know this. Du hast uns verraten.
When you one shot a leopard 2A5 with APFSDS
*Wait, That’s Illegal*
Tacam T38
Net comrade that's high explosive )))
you can shoot the turret with t80u HE and it doesnt pen but the splash destroys ammo every time
@@FlakAlley fuck off stop cluttering the comment section
Im sensing a actual possibility and cause to implement DU rounds.......
@@ruroc7555 where the F is my M1A1HA or M1A1HC to deal with this with depleted uranium armor
Freaking out about the new Leopard. I'm still researching the Tiger H1.
war thunder research in a nutshell
I'm at the Leo 2k and the 2a5 feels a lifetime away.. so yeah i feel your pain
Did you researched now
Pz 4 G
Not anymore right?
Level 1-Panzer
Level 50-Tiger
Level 100- *EARRAPE* LEOPARD 2A5
Please stop
Level 1000- Super Heavy Tank Maus
@@jimstacey331 thats how german bias works (btw i am german)
That's how blietzkried works
The leo2a5 has this armor in RL
*Meanwhile inside a Challenger 2...*
Loader Jenkins: Can we load the HESH now, sir?
Commander: FOR THE LAST BLEEDING TIME JENKINS WE NEVER USE HES----
*Leopard 2A5 appears from behind the trees*
Commander: WRONG SHELL JENKINS! WRONG SHELL! LOAD THE HESH!
Loader Jenkins: APFSDS loaded sir!
Commander: YOU ARSE!
Yea . . I cant wait to blow off the arrowheads bnb with Hesh then follow up with an apfsds to the face.
I read this in Squire's voice
Its perfect
Bless be those who believe in the Holy HESH of Antioch ,for it as returned to save us .
Varich GB im dieing
@@omnipotank i dont know if you payed attention but even without the composite on the turret its still too thick it has beefier armor than the leo2a4
So basically the German engineers got high and decided to build a modern Maus?
It worked.
Surprise every other nation :D Germany did still the best tanks in the world. one reason why the M1A1 using the rheinmetall cannon and not their own ;) think about the history. Many things come from us.
@@enochvarga7570 Weren't some M1A1 destroyed with RPG-7 in like Iraq idk?
@@enochvarga7570 abram models sold to other nations like the Leopard 2 are downgraded versions qhich both have suffered losses in those conditions but battlefield result have shown both tanks used by their parent nations has ot had a single tank lost in combat.
They have taken casualties and damage but not lost due to enemy action.
Dreamer King There hasn’t.
Ussr tank: *shoots leopard*
Leopard: *NO U*
LEO bounces shot back to ur tank
Proceed to load HE
@@midnighteclipsed2738 T80U and anyways i started blasting
Stalin: russian armor is stronk
Future Hitler: laughs in 2500mm
doodskie999 funny fact russian HE byas can fuck this tank like a bitch so the russian armor its not stronk but have the possibiliti to kill it like nothing so dont do jokes like this one
Sorry the Hesh
Two and a half metes thick
I saw a 5000mm
Stalin: Laughs in 152 HE
Cool tank, to bad that 90% of War Thunder players will never be able to play it.
Us who have gotten to this point had to go through so much anger/suffering. We deserve to have it. Just keep playing and you will get there
@@connorchattin7792 the panthers with no reverse and outstanding 20 degrees/second turrets... that was a dark time in my life
Marcos Bettega Panthers are really fun to play despite the slow reverse and awful turret traverse ( exception panther A)
@@hazardous458 my last line up was leo 2k, 2a4 and a panther D
got almost all rank 10 with the panther, M1, T80B, type 90, both challengers, leo 2a4
it`s such a fun challenge, and it must make other players sooooo mad
*too
German Main : "We Suffers No Longer!"
Gaijin: "Oy blyad this is too stronk, must nerf for balance cyka))))"
German Main: "NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN!!!!"
True
@@MausOfTheHouse true
@@menkobeastz6331 true
@@tomatensaft3491 true
Most likely what will happen is that the leo2a5 will be uptiered in the future aginst m1a2 and t90 like it was supposed to IRL.
Almost enough armor to bounce a KV-2... *almost*
What do you mean bounce comrade, glorious HE round will send turret back to country from which it came
@@The_Undead_Mage Straight to the Gulag
*Katyusha intensifies*
The Undead Mage no it will not. She’ll will get deported straight back to the factory the shell came from
@@The_Undead_Mage no just no SHUT UP WE NEED A LEO 3 oh wait...
,,Zhey are scratching your paint job Helmut"
Oh no zhat was like 50€
Haaans
It would rather be like Helmut, der Ivan hat meinen Lack zerkratzt !
Ahhh a man of culture.
2000 mm of kinetic protection?
Pffft...
Just use a .50 cal
where's the HE only sheridan
@@michobin2146 already commented
american 50 cal bias
Taking out the AVRE
MG 42 is what we prefer to use ;)
Leopard Bois: Beep beep its blitzkrieg hans
@Hans Blitzkrieg HANZ GET ZE PANZERFAUST AMERKAN TANK ON ZE HEEL
@Hans Blitzkrieg ja commandant
Germany be like: Not for a 3rd time britches
I hope Britches was no mistake
Markus Pecher I was going for a “British b*tches” so I combined the 2 words, I also didn’t know britches was an actual word back then (English is not my native language)
Hans pakf du flammenwerfer for ze britches
@@guleble6000 why tho?
@@Onyxar remember the Tiger I that got captured because its turret jammed by a trap shot from British 57mm ?
Still gets penned by Stronk BT-5
Literally play BT-5 against T80s and Leopards and I have knocked out turrets WAY too much lol
it will overpen
apocalyptic survivor I agree!
And... Me?
Type 74 Yes you
7:15
"hanz.. ze good?"
"yeah why"
"you just had ze round go right through you"
Nevver better!!
just a scratch
“Just a flesh wound”
Just a limb got cut.
33% chance to kill crew in WoT be like:
Hans: takes 152mm to the skull.
Fritz: HANS! ARE YOU OK!?
Hans: 'tis but a flesh wound *entire cranium is missing*
I was gunner on Leopard 2A4...War Thunder has a newer tank? I am getting old 😭
Tobias R. Was it hard?
Was it soft?
@@withers5657 ......,.....
THATS WHAT SHE SAID
Warst du in Pfreimd in der 104 und wenn ja wann bzw wo warst du stationiert und zu welcher Zeit
@@Aska1980 Also ich hab den Kommentar gelesen und schreibe einfach mal das ich von 11.1999 bis 10.2001 den 902050 von der 7/104 gefahren bin. Erst war er schrott dann war er top.
Leopard 2A5 engineer:
"LET'S GO GET COFFEE BOIS! WE GONA MAKE A MODERN MAUS"
Well they are German so I think rum is more appropriate lol
@@aaronbeeson9198 you mean beer
Btw these numbers you see are entirely fictional, and roughly double what it had IRL, gaijin said they will change these numbers since the model is very unfinished right now.
@@patton333 well it will be shit like every other german tank in the game
@@patton333 Actual numbers are classified for the most part, so all we can do is speculate
4:44 "What do they got in this turret?"
It is empty, srsly the Arrowhead is empty.
German engineer: "Imma weaponize air!"
Ya, German Engineering can turn nothing into armor.
Its spaced armor i guess.
@@panzerkampfwagenvitigeri2080 technically the first part of the armor if it gets penned, the shell will be tilted inside the empty space and end up stuck in there not going throught the turret, that's what i understood from a documentary about that tank!
very genius but also has weaknesses, coz they made the empty space between the outer armor and the turret longer than the shell , and if there is a more modern shell longer than that space, then that armor will be useless in most cases coz the shell will be long enough to get to the turret before it gets tilted in the empty space between the armor and the turret, well just search up how it's armor works!
sry for not explaining it right!
GerMEMEy tanks smell like sausages
Yes but actually no
I like your channel matsimus
Hey you here too!
Hey mats
It shoots glizzy
And to think: The Leopard 2A6 gets even more armour, specifically an add on piece of armour on the lower plate, to protect the tank from explosions that occur underneath the tank.
I don't know how far War Thunder wants to go, but if they add the 2A6, that will be some good times.
Btw these numbers you see are entirely fictional, and roughly double what it had IRL, gaijin said they will change these numbers since the model is very unfinished right now.
Armor upgrade *and* the Rheinmetall L55. Fun times.
If they added the M1A2 Sep well rip everything lol
Doesn't the a6 or the a7. Can't remember if there's a 7. But doesn't it have a long gun too. So just retarded pen as well
@@dominicviner6619 there is an a7
So basically Leopard 2A5 is just using bulletproof vest in steroid
This is just testserver, leo armor is not finished yet. In real life leo has 850 mm tower armor and ~650 hull. I do not know how gaijins will balance it, but Im sure that armor will be not so powerfull.
@@j.b.4835, Actually that is the minimum for the turret because that was leopard 2 improved armor. Realistically it should be around 1,000 to 1,100 base. What people don't realize is that even though it is 800 vs KE there is a good chance it could stop 1000 mm penetrator.
@@j.b.4835 No, ~650 hull is actually and understimated value, ~720mm vs KE is actually the closed value of estimate.
Even Polish Army (owns 2A5) claimed it to be impenetrable from the front to any ammunition they have in their storages at point blank (DM33 Improved, more than 550 vs KE) and claimed it to have more than 700 mm vs KE.
But i mean, it's a game so.
J. B. Hull should only be around 550-600, the ones on Swedish test trials has applique hull armor on, this one is are bones
@@hazardous458 That was L2A5 (IMP)P(Prototyper) with 2A4B armour package, that was still a prototype at that point.
While i still agree with your words, C/D package is absolutely superior as it was KE oriented.
9:14
A M4 Sherman trying to extinct a Tiger, 1944 colourized
Haha
You know that even a 75mm at that distance could pen it, right?
Without counting the 76mm that is a big enemy to the tiger even at long ranges
Amaciado. The Sherman was 5 to 1 more and the Sherman couldnt pen the tiger at 200m
Where as the tiger Could penetrate the sherman at a distance of 3 km
@@acgamer1916 A Sherman 75mm can pen a Tiger at around 4-800m. Not considering the ammunition and power of the shell. The Sherman jumbo could fire further and pen through it as well. It wasn't until late 1944 early 1945 that the Sherman started to have problems.
Assassin_rk42 no it couldn‘t
War Thunder Challenge:
Play the Leopard 2A5 and try to die with less than 5 Shots without showing your side.
😂
I don’t have any Russian tanks but...... “laughs in Russian HE”
12:20, when you finally meet your match
"Side turret doesn't work"
*laughs in IS-6/7*
when you thought you finally get a german bias but then you realise that the russian are still able to counter it
Castsmith T90?
@@LeNathDuNet This 2A5 will have B-tech turret with probably B-tech hull but mabye C-tech, both penetrateable with top shells so I don't see any problem.
If you want T-90 ( not the A cause it's worse than T-80U ingame ) then we need full C-tech 2A5
@@christians.597 BUT IT IS A C TECH
@@LeNathDuNet We don't know yet. it had full b-tech composite but with extra RHA armor
i'm pretty sure it will be a standard version which should look like this: C-tech hull , B-tech turret with D-tech wedges. That would be balanced. But you know what i could accept B-tech hull with more resistant wedges.
@@christians.597 hahaha. T-90 from 1992 2a5 from 1995
watching it from 21-12-2019 and now its hull is paper fin. Almoust everythink can pen its upper and lower hull. Only turret stays strong
Yeah that's because the air was modeled as RHA in this dev server
"No lower barrel weakspot....turret is practically impenetrable"
Gaijin: Challenge accepted! Bring out the Sekrit Dokuments!
The leo2a5 has so much armor in RL
Maus: I have the best armor!
Leopard 2A5: Hold my beer
Leo2a5 has this armor in RL
Leopard2A5 is son of Maus ,and everybody knows that Maus is the best tank in the world because of the name....
If the a5 is so Strong i don't warnt to know how strong the a7 would be...
@לוי ישראל i know waht You mean but its Not the a8 its the Prototyp from the Leopard 3 or the research Vehicle from rheinmetall, but not the a8.
basically the a5 and the a7+ are the same tanks. The a7+ only has a few new technical devices.
@@fredkasten1647 new gun, better armor are no Technical devices
@@schattenpelzttd7123 Ok, the a5 has the L55 cannon and the a7+ has the L44 cannon. So basically the a7+ has a shorter barrel,which makes him weaker, but he has a shorter barrel because it was made for urban fights. A shorter barrel is better for fights between houses for example. But the main changes were many technical improvements like a new thermal visor and a better air conditioner for the fight in hotter areas like Syria or Afghanistan. I know, that the shorter barrel is a big difference between the a7+ and the a5, but the biggest changes are only some technical improvements. The a7+ also has a better protection against mines, but this is not necessery for War Thunder.
So in conclusion, the a7+ has a weaker cannon (This is bad for War Thunder :D), a better protection against mines, which is not necessary for war thunder, and newer technical devices, which can be necesarry for war thunder (reconnaissance for example). So in general the a7+ is bassicaly the a5 with better technologies.
@@fredkasten1647 the a7 has the longer barrel and the a5 is the kws (kampfwertsteigerung) Variant of the a4 that has the Short Barrel and the Barrel on the a5 is the same as on the a4 and the l/55 is longer since the a6
Just look at Pictures
Germany is just the master of creating Tanks
no.
Debatable... Definitely not World War 2 German tanks for sure.
yes germany, and ironicly... israel
@@levvy3006 Definitly yes
Germany made until today the best tanks in the world :)
Once that thing is out it won't have any of that armor left. I'm telling you!
Hopefully
Good lord I'm researching the Panther II haha. Nearly there...
tiago morais gayjin cock blocked me from the A1A1 by adding that shitty m48 or whatever that phuck, i had started researching it and then they put that thing smack dab in the middle, like phuck off reeeeeeeee
Same😃
johann heidbreder Feelsbadman ;-;
> Only need 20000 more RP for Leo1A1A1
> Oh a major update
> *M48G2 added*
> REEEeeeeeee
Kaw Milo basically me ;-;
"what did they got in this turret" let me tell you about German magic that turns air into
impenetrable armor.
when a leo 2a5 looks at you
*"my time has come"*
15:13 just fuggin survives a 120 to the face.... ok
The turret is the same length as the hull of the tank???
*erika starts playing*
Basically it is. Looks like an op pancake
0:01 every british tank driver when they pass their test
Next patches dev Blog will be "BRRRRT REMOVE EM - A10"
Can't be far away. I have money set aside in case it is premium
@@thelonewolf_nz7640 it better not be or i will quit the game i have nothing to lose i put no money in the game so
@@joel5716I don't think they would make it premium especially if it's top tier. But it will be magically OP as every awesome addition
MrSchinken maybe they’ll do two versions? Premium and reg
SU-25 be like:
''WHSUH WSHUH WSHUH'' and ''BPBPBPBPBPBPBPBP''
A10 be like:
''BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT'' and '' Murica fuck yeah''
Gajin nerfed it so hard that everyone can penetrate it
No
@@deltaplane9244 Yea
Damn
Real?
@@DSIREX_ yes
If you think upping to an M1A2 would help... that doesn't bring a gun. But it _would_ bring a huge armor upgrade.
Get m829a2 hehehe...
Gopnik M829A4 hehe
Leo 2A5 is an extremly upgraded Leo 2A4 while the americans still use the same tank with the same weakspots and only puts a tiny amount of armor on it wich is useless
@@killer_tedox5280 They also get the best APFSDS in game...
@Dex4Sure Firstly, this is the dev server so everything is going to change anyway. I don't know why every patch people completely lose their minds about stats but there we are. Secondly, you admitted yourself it has more penetration so I wasn't lying when I said it is the best APFSDS round in the game, in fact, you were lying when you accused me of lying. Congratulations, you played yourself. You sound exactly like all of the people who were having a hissy-fit when the Abrams was introduced about it not being strong enough, and turned it into a clubbing machine when it hit the live servers. Conclusion, stop moaning about dev server statistics, it's pointless.
German really learned how to armor xD But with the Heat/HE weakness its still balanced.
Fun fact: The 2A5 and later versions were meant to face of Abrams and T90's (secretly) since both Nations don't use HEAT-FS or HESH anymore, at least not much.
Hmm i disagree
Heat isn't as effective as you think
Hesh just... sucks there I said it!!
And Russian HE murders it
1/3rd balanced lol?
Germany still fights alongside the Russians all time sooo...
Other tank: "noo I can't penetrate this tank"
Leopard 2A5: "haha bullets go *ting* "
PHLY you just used the phorbidden letter on you title, I thought you were better than this...
Das ist deutsche Technik
Ja man XD
Gud tenks 👍
Der A7 wäre wohl aktuell overkill da er ja verstärkten unterbodenschutz hat der selbst panzerabwehrminen standhält.
Krupp Stahl- Schußsicher,Praktisch, Gut
Des maschines lauft perfekt.!
They really need to fix the HE mechanics and penetration values.
The leo2a5 has this armor in RL...
@@edelweiss- Shrapnel doesn't go through 35mm of armor
@@edelweiss- Yes but real life hasn't shrapnels that penetrate more than APDSF.
And the instant crew kill bug that kills crew even if no splitter hits them
@@unfixedcarp8039 you are right but be honest. Who uses hesh or he at 10.0 mostly just apfsds or *elongated rock*
2.5 m od armor
*LAUGHS IN GERMAN*
Nuclear submarines will be fun.
It will
Im ready for regular ww2 submarines lol
Unleash our ultimate move upon the enemy! Initiate Giant Titan Dildo maneuver!
*RAMMING SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!!*
the world trembled at the sound of our rockets. They will tremble again at the sound of our silence!
@@_spooT look like someone played too much BFGA
Phly; "What have they got in this Turret?!"
Me: "German Craftsmanship!!!"
German Anthem intensifies
2800mm of effective protection
*Laughs in Wehrmacht*
Isnt wehrmacht a military branch?
@@kurakulingu9734 Yup. A branch of Heer, Wehrmacht was a land army.
@@eyyze
You have it backwards. The Wehrmacht is the Heer(Army), Luftwaffe(Air Force), and Kreigsmarine(Navy). Wehrmacht basically means "Armed Forces".
@@beurteilung713 Ah, thanks for the correction.
@Secure White Existence That's the name for all 3 combined. Like one of the comments said Heer, Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine make up the Bundeswehr! :)
*This is tank is perfect for Bundeswehraboos*
ja, bundeswehrb, instead of good ol nazi ones
@@Miraak0Konahrik Alright bro.
@@Miraak0Konahrik fucking normie REEEE
@@Miraak0Konahrik i swear to lucifer's dick if some shady neo nazi occult mofos do anything about reviving hitler as like one of satan's generals, i'd better wish i go to some shady prefecture in japan even if it means *risk getting raped/eaten by youkai lolis (ya know what im referring to)*
@@curtismason4932 yes it may sound funny but i'm probably serious about dat. and also u know what i was referring to~~~ last week right???
I miss the days when this leo actually had hull armor. Now it’s the strv that has it all
The leo in this form was busted... the 2a5 and 2a6 are still imo among the top 5 mbts in war thunder, nothing wrong with their performance.
They always find a way to completely break balance in this damn game.
Just use proper ammo on targets. Looks like HEAT, HESH etc will have no trouble destroying this thing.
Just learn it's weak spots, you cant expect this game to turn into 1 shot every from the front can you? The Abrams DOMINATED when it was released because nobody knew how to kill it, now they do..
Just learn its weakspots?
Just give me T-90
@@19Koty96 nope just take your t80u with kontakt-5 and be happy
I never had a problem with killing the M1 even when it was added.. I already knew where to aim. But this thing seams to not have a weak spot in front. But yeah I guess not using APFSDS on it will have to do
This tank is truly beautiful
All that fancy new tank tech and it still gets recked by a Kugelblitz, damn WW2 you scary.
Where is the leclerc ?! 🇫🇷
🥖+🚗=tank
Yeah i wanna see it too it looks cool
Fires an Armor piercing fin stabilized discarding baugette
Ask Eugen
It's in now :)
@@f4fphantomii468 and white flag
Phly, ever heard about prototype Stealth Leopard E1 thres video about it.
Pretty much everyone seems to have this in his recommendation. Before the dude from the tank museum in Munster made a video about it, almost noone heard about it. Not even me, who is a huge Leopard and German Military Nerd.
There isnt even a Wikipedia page about it. Not even on the Leopard 1s Wiki page.
2a5: and this isn’t even my final form
Morphs into stridsvagn 122
And France still have a second gen tank to with a proto...
Just wait till Germany gets the F-104
Andrew Carpenter *PH-104
Andrew Carpenter the flying coffin ?
Definately not before America!
Thu supersonic pipe.
In Germany we call it Witwenmacher wich is translated to widowmaker in english
Actually, it's hollow. The idea is that it acts as spaced armor for HEAT, and destabilizes APFSDS. When APFSDS strikes the outer wall of the wedge, it causes it to tilt up or down. It then strikes the thick turret cheeks at an angle, which reduces its effectiveness. Pretty good idea as long as there are no APFSDS rounds longer than the added armor.
We all know that the leopard 2A5 will leave the devblog with the lower specifications, it has already happened with the previous leopards
Abrams is king of the fiel.....wait what?
Roar! New king's comming :D
Do you really believe that? It's german. Russian company. Ring a bell? Yeah you know what will happen to it.
I bet Gayjin is gonna put some russian sci-fi tanks in the game to compensate for the stronk Leo.
Why would they need to when you can just kill it with one he shell?
US can't ever have top kek tonks....it would break the game
The abrams we have including the soon m1a1
They were basically extensive prototypes if what we have now
The difference between the m1/m1a1 and the m1a2 is as follows
Stable (unlike the Leo 2a5) 1500mm vs HEAT
800+mm vs KE
Front turret and 3/4the amount on the side turret faces
Improved turret ring composition making it slightly double of the m1 effectiveness
Composite side skirts are now 127mm opposed to currently 65mm-70m
Lower glacis like turret now have geometrically formed DU layers
So roughly the front of the m1a2 is 1000mm/~700mm
~850mm/~580mm and 35mm-50mm rear
Not invincible just reliable not to mention in real life they have space armored cages and other upgrades after $95 billion spent
So I'd say the abrams in game currently is just a US sample of the main product
From my understanding angles on the leopards front turret aren't there to bounce like traditional angled armor. They are there to destabilize penetrators as they go through it.
So when are they adding ICBMs/ V1s/ V2s as premium Arty?
Drake Tamer 5 kill streak and we got a special V1 as an arty call!
ICBM = nukes. Sure buddy
German engineering: So good that they manage to turn air into impenetrable armour. ;)
Keep in mind that the effective thickness of the armor varies with the type of penetrator you're using. When I tested APFSDS against the original Abrams, longer penetrators decreased the effective thickness of the armor, even if they had lower penetration than other, shorter ones.
Wehraboos be like
“ *REEEEE* stupid AMERICUNT BIAS M1A1!!!”
“ *_Yaaaa, ze muhh powerful Leopard )))_* “
Also freeaboos: I WHAT CHOPPA WITH 10KM RANGE MISSLE
Isoif Stalin
It shouldn’t be at all,
Just the fact that the front of 2A5 is almost impenetrable affects EVERY nation at 10.0 ground BR mate
Hazardous
???? ;DD
As a former Leo2A4 commander this makes me extremely satisfied :DDD Get outta here with that weird turbine engine
Isoif Stalin
The M1A1 has already a huge trump card being its mobility, survivability and gun.
Its armour is nowhere near impenetrable.
The 2A5 is only slightly slower and its gun is only a little less powerful than M1A1’s, while its armour (turret and upper plate) cannot be penetrated with the A1’s gun in any way.
-I’m not a freeaboo, since I play every nation.
And from what I see the saying “Germany suffers” is pretty inaccurate, as Axis prop (some jet planes as well - ex. G.91, CL-13) are better than Allied ones.
I play both sides and flying 109s doesn’t require as much skill and forward thinking as for example P-51s
That’s all.
I already see russian threads exploding and the heavy nerf on this beautifull tank.
it's still op to T64 T72 and T80 even after nerfing, Russia should just get the T90
@@TeddyKrimsony that wasn't a nerf though
They just modeled the air as RHA in the dev server
I love it when TH-camrs put non clickbait thumbnails but when there real and as crazy as this I'm so grateful, so thank you phly for including and not baiting
8:55 Every American tank lover is from that moment completely triggered
Why would they? This is a game with make believe numbers where physics don't exist. Front line tank armor composition is Op Sec and unknown and Gaijin is openly admitting their now making stuff up.
The DM 53 can only be shoot from the L55 Gun. The L44 isn't rated for these high Chamber pressures. But old ammunition from the L44 can still be used with the longer L55. So we will have to wait for the 2A6 till we get our hands on the L55 and the DM53 with 800mm pen.
Not really. L44 can shoot DM53 or even DM63. It need chamber and breach modifications but will successfully shoot DM53 and DM63. Of course longer barrel still means higher velocity. So even modified L44 shooting DM63 will be less powerful than L55.
DM53 can be used on L44 gun, it's confirmed by Rheinmetall. DM63 can be used on both L44 and L55, but L44 would need to be upgraded expect for the barrel lenght.
@@jakubw.2779 Maybe Rheinmetall planned such modification. But it certanly did not see service with the German Armed forces. In theory you could shoot a DM 53/63 (Basicly the same projectile, only different propellant) from a L44 Gun but the chamber pressure would most likely result in damage to the Gun aber a few shots.
@@mcdolgu this modification will be made for polish Leo 2A4 and A5 during modernisation process to Leo2PL standard.
the 2A5 also had the L55 later
12:30 when an immovable object meets and unstopable force
Watching this in 2022, and it seems like this Leo got nerfed by a lot.
indeed
Kv2 joins the game.
Leopard 2a5 leaves the game
*KV-2 Shot bounces..*
HE Never bounce
Let the metal box come. Such highly visible target will be easy prey against this opponent.
So your saying a ww2 tank would 1 shot a modern tank 🤦🏽♂️
@@dsmvmdsmsdmsd23 Well, its not 100% impossible
2A5:
‘I am invincible.’
Kugelblitz:
*haha machine gun go pew pew*
It's pretty stupid that they added the 2A5 before 2A4 with C armour package.
if gaijin was going to add the armor package it would be a modification like they did to one of the high tier Russian tank that i forgot the name of.
@@tf-uderpy699 but kontakt-5 add nothing, where C armour is like a new tank.
@@SuiSideex would the c armor be able to stand up to hellfire atgms?
@@tf-uderpy699 Um maybe, kontakt-1 dosnt help for TOWs, i dont want think about hellfires xD (and hellfires are broken in wt) even kontakt-5 dosnt help, hellfires have fucking 1100pen, and if even its help, its only one time use, where u have 16 tows,hellfires so lmao xD
@@SuiSideex exactly so what does it matter if the Germans don't get a variant of the 2A4 when the outcome is going to be the same with the Germans pretty much always going against the US and have their tanks being killed to asshats in helicopters 2-3kms away with hellfires besides with the new tanks the US, Britain and Russia are getting the Germans are going to need a new tank that is going to be able to compete with them.
The Kraut launcher.
*Is pretty good (and depends also hard to play)*
*PH*
There is no known penetrator currently on any tank that can penetrate the turret front of a Leopard 2A5 onwards unless someone makes a longer penetrator, because the way it works is that as long as the penetrator fits inside those frontal add-on armor wedges, it just gets diverted too much to penetrate the composite behind.
This is honestly a more “accurate” representation on how this tank should be lol, now the 2A5 (even the 2A6) feel weak and spongy compared to that of its Russian counterparts anyways.
I feel like that's a fallacy. A modern mbt cannot have 1000mm of kinetic protection around the breach area.
Also the turret face armour of a leopard 2a5/6? If I had to guess would be around 800mm, with the added cheese slopes maybe abit over 1000mm.
The new Russian t14 armata has 1000mm of straight up composite armour (supposedly) and that has western governments scrambling to design new tanks and has them rattled. It's a big deal cause no other mbt has had that much protection before.
Kf51 with the 130mm gun is a direct counter.
I'll admit the leopard do feel abit spongey now but honestly the weak spots on Russian tanks in game are pretty easy to hit, provided you're not sniping at 2kms away.
@@unlockingsnow73 i mean the armata is also supposibly weights less then the t90 and t80, i would take what ever the russians put out with a barrel of salt tbh.
Isn't the top speed of the leo 2a5 72km/h? In game it says 68km/h...
Its officiall between 72-68km/h, but it can get faster in real life.
It's called make believe stats. Front line tank actual performance is Op Sec and Gaijin is going into complete fantasy.
Hey phly about the things on the Leos cheeks, they arent for bouncing stuff and in reality that triangle is actually full of empty air, its to break up incoming Sabot darts, when it punches through the dart gets unbalanced and strikes the actual cheek at a poor angle, making it shatter rather than penetrate the tank. Its very neat.
You know what I hope they don’t nerf this. Just give the Abrams it’s DU armor and we’re good to go.
Nah they should just add a different tank, add the 2a4C. The M1A1 is barely better than the M1, just a better gun really, even has worse HEAT protection, but there’s a M1a1HC that has the DU armor.
This is something that would go against the M1A2 or something, not the M1a1.
This is currently inaccurate, although a M1A1HA probably would make it a bit more balanced even w/ the real values, but then that may warrant some kind of T-90 for Russia
Ah yeah, because the only nations in the game are Germany and the US.
Btw these numbers you see are entirely fictional, and roughly double what it had IRL, gaijin said they will change these numbers since the model is very unfinished right now.
@@zeph6182 It has same amor as IP .. it is very irritating when people are thinking that dev server stats and final...... + if this thing will be nerfed or atleast will receive some weak spots, abrams will still be above average in terms of battle capabilities.
ok i will bring my milk truck on the battle field in 10.0 now
because i know it is just the only solution...to defeat Leo 2A5
The arrowhead is empty it's just spaced armour, the trick is the distance between the turret face and peak of the arrowhead is larger than most sabots that hits it thus the shot passes through the arrowhead and tumbles on the inside and hits the turret face at an angle causing the shot to shatter on impact. but a sabot long enough to pierce the arrowhead plate and meet the turret face before it exits the arrowhead will punch through the armour.
It's about having the longest sabot
Auf der Heide blüht ein kleines Blühmelein
Und das heißt
LEOPARD 2A5🤣🤣
Wohl eher Nerfilein weil gaijin
E R I K A
I'm seeing the T-14 being a reality in the game soon
T-14 is a joke lol
@@wargames43 lol ik
But! It would be pretty cool tbh. Crew in hull, Low turret armour, Seems like it will be fun/easy to kill haha
2Б1 "Ока" being a reality in the game soon, not T-14 ormota, ormota is weak.
@@evilfurryfromnowhere4100 Who knows mate
I can say this is kind realistic. I am a tank crew member at spanish army. Our Leopard 2E are 2A6 with improved protection requirements. Add some modules to the hull, increase some internal protection and there u have. Its a fucking moster, but in real world they are less reliable that those in game
Look!!!! A realistic German Tank 👍
Phly: "hit or miss right there don't think of memes guys okay
Me: too late.
Looking at the gun mantle tells me that it is a shot trap on the beveled underside, sending the deflected kinetic penetrator down on the top deck of the hull at close to 90 degrees. Depending on hull thickness there, and reserved KE of the round, that is a probable penetration.
The M1 Abrams turret does not have that feature, and incorporates U238 in the armor scheme.
To date, however, no A5 or higher model Leopard has been lost to gunfire.
Phly, i have a good challenge for you!!
Play the M48 in stock configuration
Or if not up to the task, play the M48 using only the APCR shell. Good luck, you will need it Attempt #209!!!!!
If you have fun during it i can guarantee you are not doing it right
Requesting it before it was cool
Phly satisfy this man he is so damn loyal he has done this over 200 times
@@danehampe2972 =)
Phly, as I have mentioned before, we should try to get Gaijin to let us race/drive in game car models (such as the ones in the new "Alaska" map, and maybe even make more iconic cars of the era) for this upcoming April fools. Its about time we had some stupid fun (like back when the April fools ponies were a thing) instead of "tests for upcoming tanks/planes" fun. Upvote if you agree, Atempt #3
Put simply, this was the winner tank design for world war III. Designed specifically not only to massacre the best MBTs of the Warsaw pact, but to massacre them when heavily outnumbered by them. If a single one had to fight with 5 or even 10 T-64s or T-72s it was surely expected to take some direct hits and survive. Leo's beauty is that it seems to absolutely nail the tank triangle. It had massive firepower with excellent fire control, it was armoured like a fortress, and still - had one of the fastest chassis in the tank world. It really looks like the age old tank triangle of compromise between firepower, mobility and protection did not apply for Leo.
Take the armor of the mause, mix with the speed of the M18 and the Abrams, and put that cannon and BOOM.
Leoparde 2a5 born
Btw these numbers you see are entirely fictional, and roughly double what it had IRL, gaijin said they will change these numbers since the model is very unfinished right now.
Challenge - disastrous AA
shoot down bombers using the BF-110-G2 with WfrGR 21 rockets. The way WfrGR 21s are meant to be used!
Attempt #60
8:06 phly modern projectiles(apfsds ones) can penetrate up to arround 700-950 mm of armor at 0° inside 100 m.
First? Also I already expect this to be the first tank to cost billions of silver lions.
It will prob cost 30 M
Dude you phorgot that at you’re f’s must be ph
TBPH you probably deserve the repair costs iph you manage to die from anything other than an AH-1Z w/ hellphires.