Thanks for sharing these interesting pistols & revolvers! I think we are lucky that so many pistols were mass produced and sold between 1870-1890, leaving many still around today in excellent condition for us to collect & shoot. I am fortunate to own a few antique pocket pistols including a blued finish S&W model 1½ second issue or new model .32rf, and a .32rf revolver very similar to your Defender, it's a "Protector" spur trigger, nickel plated 5-shot revolver , which according to the 1958 book "Suicide Specials" was manufactured by Bliss & Goodyear, New Haven, Conn. between 1878-89, (Patent april 23,1878) The Protector required that the bore and cylinder chambers be seriously cleaned out, and that I make a replacement cylinder hand spring, which I made from a piece of an old wind up alarm clock's coiled flat spring. For ammo, I have 2 dozen machined brass 32rf long & short cases which I fill with pyrodex RS, and they have a larger, offset primer pocket to accept 6mm Flobert crimped blanks for the primer, and a .310" or .315" roundball which is seated into the case mouth with a small bench vice. I recently won an ebay auction for an antique civil war era .32rf heeled bullet + roundball mold tool, and I will eventually cast some conical heeled bullets to reload and shoot with my revolvers. I also discovered that 32rf cartridges can be made from copper barrel crimp sleeves and .27 caliber nailgun blanks plus a .310" roundball. 4-AWG (length=25mm) is the type of "barrel crimp sleeve" which I used. 25mm is a little bit longer than 32rf long, but by using a .310" roundball instead of a heeled bullet, the crimp sleeve cartridge still chambers perfectly in the Protector. I recall reading that the original .22rf & .32rf cases were made from copper,
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Cool lil thing. I own an IJ Defender 89 in .22 rimfire. Always wanted to convert one of those 32 or 38 rimfire to 22. The tiny v spring behind the trigger broke the first time i cocked my defender. Replaced it with a cut down coil spring from a pen
If you have a ballpoint pen that has a spring you have a spring that will fit the spur trigger. Just cut off a 3/16 length of the spring out of the middle and install that short cut off section. It isn't as strong as the original but does work and is reliable. Just some advice, don't dryfire rimfore firearms because the hammer has a blade that WILL eventually break which would be a shame.
I have a .32 version 89 defender 1889, im looking to get at least functional like that, mines missing the trigger assembly. Do they make parts for these still?
In hindsight, probably shouldn't have. That being said, the blade does not make contact with the cylinder. The old 32 rimfire ammo of the period had rims thick enough to make good contact with the hammer blade.
Thanks for sharing these interesting pistols & revolvers! I think we are lucky that so many pistols were mass produced and sold between 1870-1890, leaving many still around today in excellent condition for us to collect & shoot.
I am fortunate to own a few antique pocket pistols including a blued finish S&W model 1½ second issue or new model .32rf, and a .32rf revolver very similar to your Defender, it's a "Protector" spur trigger, nickel plated 5-shot revolver , which according to the 1958 book "Suicide Specials" was manufactured by Bliss & Goodyear, New Haven, Conn. between 1878-89, (Patent april 23,1878)
The Protector required that the bore and cylinder chambers be seriously cleaned out, and that I make a replacement cylinder hand spring, which I made from a piece of an old wind up alarm clock's coiled flat spring.
For ammo, I have 2 dozen machined brass 32rf long & short cases which I fill with pyrodex RS, and they have a larger, offset primer pocket to accept 6mm Flobert crimped blanks for the primer, and a .310" or .315" roundball which is seated into the case mouth with a small bench vice.
I recently won an ebay auction for an antique civil war era .32rf heeled bullet + roundball mold tool, and I will eventually cast some conical heeled bullets to reload and shoot with my revolvers.
I also discovered that 32rf cartridges can be made from copper barrel crimp sleeves and .27 caliber nailgun blanks plus a .310" roundball.
4-AWG (length=25mm) is the type of "barrel crimp sleeve" which I used. 25mm is a little bit longer than 32rf long, but by using a .310" roundball instead of a heeled bullet, the crimp sleeve cartridge still chambers perfectly in the Protector. I recall reading that the original .22rf & .32rf cases were made from copper,
I also have a Protector in pieces that I may put back together one of these days.
Dont know if you guys gives a damn but if you are stoned like me atm then you can watch all of the latest movies on InstaFlixxer. Been binge watching with my gf lately xD
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Cool lil thing. I own an IJ Defender 89 in .22 rimfire. Always wanted to convert one of those 32 or 38 rimfire to 22.
The tiny v spring behind the trigger broke the first time i cocked my defender. Replaced it with a cut down coil spring from a pen
One of the major issues is that a 32RF or 38RF cylinder will not fit into the frame of the 22 IJ Defender.
Awesome ingenuity of the pen spring.
If you have a ballpoint pen that has a spring you have a spring that will fit the spur trigger. Just cut off a 3/16 length of the spring out of the middle and install that short cut off section. It isn't as strong as the original but does work and is reliable. Just some advice, don't dryfire rimfore firearms because the hammer has a blade that WILL eventually break which would be a shame.
I have a .32 version 89 defender 1889, im looking to get at least functional like that, mines missing the trigger assembly. Do they make parts for these still?
Why would you dry fire that?
In hindsight, probably shouldn't have.
That being said, the blade does not make contact with the cylinder.
The old 32 rimfire ammo of the period had rims thick enough to make good contact with the hammer blade.