Ducati Panigale V4 S vs. BMW S 1000 RR vs. Aprilia RSV4 1100 | Superbike Comparison

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  • We put the three class-leading superbikes head to head at Thunderhill Raceway Park to decide the 2019 Cycle World Superbike Shootout winner. Will the 2019 Ducati Panigale V4 S retain it's edge in the category? Or will the all-new 2020 BMW S 1000 RR or big-bore 2019 Aprilia RSV4 1100 Factory take the crown?
    All bikes fitted with - Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SC
    Arguments will be made for other categories of sportbikes, but nothing delivers the emotion-evoking exotic personality and outright performance like a modern-day superbike.
    Each is a brutally fast piece of industrial art optimized with everything it needs to strive for the fastest lap time and nothing it doesn't. Superbikes are simultaneously raw yet refined. These machines are built solely to push the boundaries of pure performance, but addictive personalities beware: Superbikes can and will induce obsessive horsepower highs.
    So, while there are a number of sportbikes on the market that mix in more practicality and comfort at a more affordable price, the open-class superbikes here-the Aprilia RSV4 1100 Factory, BMW S 1000 RR, and Ducati Panigale V4 S-represent the pinnacle of motorcycle performance. With these machines, a combination of mass horsepower and knife-edge handling makes previously unthinkable lap times easily obtainable, while a rock-solid chassis begs to push the limit a little further. Of course, pushing the envelope means increasing the consequences, but sophisticated rider aids have made this level of superbike performance more accessible than ever.
    Accessibility of raw capability is one thing, but cost of entry is something entirely different. Each bike being priced at roughly $25,000 makes for an exclusive owner's club. But what you get with any of these motorcycles is racing DNA drawn from the front lines of MotoGP, and they also form the basis for cutthroat World Superbike competition-right down to the winglets. Buying a modern superbike has moved beyond just buying the bike with the most horsepower; it has become about owning exoticness, and getting the best a manufacturer has to offer.
    And in the case of Ducati, this means the Panigale V4 S, which claimed Cycle World's Best Superbike title in our 2018 Ten Best Bikes voting. Sure, there is the FIM-homologation-special Panigale V4 R with its superbike-legal 998cc, but comparing the rest of the current crop of literbikes to the class-leading street offering from Ducati with its burlier 1,103cc engine is only sensible.
    Aprilia's best? The big-bore RSV4 1100 Factory. Updated with an additional 79cc, top-shelf braking components, and MotoGP-derived aerodynamic winglets, this is a refined version of an already-potent platform-and stiff competition for Ducati.
    BMW has something to say to its rivals, redesigning the 2020 model-year S 1000 RR from the ground up with a revised inline-four, a narrower and lighter chassis, and more sophisticated electronics. Oh, and the up-spec M and Select packages (an additional $3,700 and $1,400) come equipped with carbon-fiber wheels and semi-active electronic suspension. Thankfully, we were able to get ahold of one, much thanks to San Jose BMW employee and local racer Cory Call, who loaned Cycle World his privately owned M model for the track test.
    We also requested the multitime Ten Best Bikes-winning YZF-R1M for the fun, but Yamaha declined. With updates made to the forthcoming 2020 model, the company decided to wait for next year's shootout, which is already shaping up to be an even higher-speed showdown.
    The Test
    Exploiting absolute open-class performance requires worthy testing grounds, and for the 2019 Cycle World Superbike Shootout, it meant Thunderhill Raceway Park's 3-mile road course for two full days of private testing. Thunderhill's variety of fast sweepers, hard-braking zones, dramatic elevation changes, and fifth-gear straightaways puts each bike to the detailed scrutiny of our testing staff, which included current licensed professional roadracers, longtime moto journalist and motorcyclistonline.com editor Adam Waheed, Red Bull stunt lunatic-I mean, street freestyle motorcycle artist-Aaron Colton, and legendary CW road test editor emeritus Don Canet.
    Our vote for equal and abundant grip came by mounting Pirelli Supercorsa SC race rubber to each contender. (It is important to note Ducati’s stock rear-tire spec is a 200/60, but only a 200/55 is available in this tire.) Then we weighed, measured, and ran the bikes on the Cycle World in-house dyno.
    At last, it was time to inject our veins with superbike stimulants.
    To see how each bike compared, read the full story on Cycle World: www.cycleworld.com/aprilia-rs...
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  • @cycleworld
    @cycleworld  4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    To see how each bike compared, read the full story on Cycle World: www.cycleworld.com/aprilia-rsv4-1100-factory-vs-bmw-s-1000-rr-vs-ducati-panigale-v4s/

  • @aluisious
    @aluisious 4 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    I remember when I used to give a shit about videos like this, then I went to dozens of track days and learned it doesn't make a difference what bike I'm on. I'm not going to win anything anyway.

    • @fattymcgee123
      @fattymcgee123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      yup. most people who aren't pros will not be able to tell a difference, not one that will translate to faster lap times. even if it did, like you said, the prize for winning a track day is... ??

    • @ReapeR948
      @ReapeR948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      aluisious I’m just about buying what looks the best to me. They’re all fast as fvck.

    • @krayzieegg7294
      @krayzieegg7294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      thats a 100% the TRUTH! so seeing most of these comments saying faster this faster that better this better that is a bunch of bullshit.. they might not even own a superbike

    • @johnpark6138
      @johnpark6138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yup - I went to the track with my 400cc dirt bike / supermoto - had a blast / passed people on track .. too much fun.

    • @carpenter751
      @carpenter751 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Truth

  • @NinerJonny
    @NinerJonny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Aprilia RSV4 FTW...but alas, too uncomfortable for me now. Thus, I bought a Tuono :)

    • @MLambdaman
      @MLambdaman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      And you got the best of both worlds :)

    • @Claimjumper55
      @Claimjumper55 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So did I.

    • @LookAtMeLuis
      @LookAtMeLuis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes tuono ftw best of both worlds

    • @ApriliaRacer14
      @ApriliaRacer14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      NinerJonny FTW indeed...got myself 2 Tuonos!

    • @MegaTechpc
      @MegaTechpc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’ll deal with the comfort issue, couldn’t stomach the ugly Tuono over my RSV4!

  • @JK-qj9qp
    @JK-qj9qp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Yet another 2020 S1KRR that still retains the restrictions. Why not flash all the bikes and run them? No one keeps a bike stock anyways

  • @Rriitthhuu
    @Rriitthhuu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Loved that Aprilia RSV4 1100 Factory.. It sounds completely brutal!

  • @NCC2087
    @NCC2087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I love when Aprilia wins.

  • @manavmishra9071
    @manavmishra9071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank You for making this video!!

  • @5up614
    @5up614 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Huge fan of all of these bikes. And own the Ducati and have had the 11-99 and 1299. And the V4 is far superior. The BMW on the other hand is a absolute astonishing bike after a bren tuning ECU flash. Unbelievable that the bike is even the same bike and you actually feel the shift cam working.

  • @timbarry5080
    @timbarry5080 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review! Thanks, guys

  • @bram461
    @bram461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Having had the 1100 Factory and now a 2020 BMW with a re-flash and full Akra exhaust, you still need to get rid of the electronic suspension to get it anywhere close to the Aprilia.

    • @hby7768
      @hby7768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im the slowest in advance group. - was thinking about going into club racing but decided to just keep it to trackdays - any 3 of these is still better than my skill level

    • @Kurlach
      @Kurlach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bollocks does it. Depends who is riding it; the S1K is a rocket, the difference between all these is tiny fractions.

    • @pravesh736
      @pravesh736 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kurlach BMW made with cheaper parts. Nissin MCs , seperate function forks, does make sense to get rid of the stock suspension.

    • @happydays1165
      @happydays1165 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris H winning is winning 2nd is the first of the losers

    • @92RB20Monster
      @92RB20Monster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pravesh736 thats your argument? Nissin master cylinder? I have ridden bikes with a brembo master cylinder and the brakes were absolutely trash,example _ 2018zx10r vs 2018 bmw s1000rr _ The brakes on the BMW only take a finger,like i single finger to stop on a dime,and thats with a nissin master,and the zx10r with the brembo master takes far more pressure to get anywhere near the same braking force.

  • @divjay6403
    @divjay6403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best reviews for the trio!

  • @mroy2443
    @mroy2443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    When did they hire Valentino Rossi?

    • @mattsiegel1446
      @mattsiegel1446 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣

    • @superchargedpetrolhead
      @superchargedpetrolhead 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yeah, he just needs a bigger sideburns...

    • @jasondavis9215
      @jasondavis9215 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was just going to say that. Till i saw your comment lol😅👍

    • @apymv6128
      @apymv6128 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol i got shocked at first second,😂🤣

  • @SuperTacticalcom
    @SuperTacticalcom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I guess the US version of the BMW is restricted differently, because it easily pulled on the other bikes in the other tests I've seen.

    • @user-yj1dw8um1g
      @user-yj1dw8um1g 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i see vid were guys made 44 hp in mid range on s1k,in us

    • @JuanRamirez-bq3iw
      @JuanRamirez-bq3iw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      An s1000rr pulling a v4? No...

    • @mabrokenleg2388
      @mabrokenleg2388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @Manu Ramirez watch the video from 44teeth. It blew the doors off of the v4s. 210+hp at the crank

    • @ridingwithsam
      @ridingwithsam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JuanRamirez-bq3iw 44teeth here in the UK said the aprilla struggles against the BMW in a straight line

    • @siraff4461
      @siraff4461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Devil is in the detail. Different regs mean different settings for emissions. If it's a 50 state bike it will need to meet Cali standards which is why it gets the flatspot but there is also the difference between Euro 3/4/etc specs which also make a massive difference.
      Pure stupidity to keep strangling bikes which do little mileage and damage in the first place while leaving planes to do what they like and moving the whole EU parliament every month for no reason.

  • @cidemirhenriques5524
    @cidemirhenriques5524 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ducati a Ferrari das motos e Aprilia a Lamborghini das motos! Dois mitos na pista!

  • @balasundar4124
    @balasundar4124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Wow the Aprilia. I wish I could have one.

  • @pistolpete6321
    @pistolpete6321 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video!

  • @Henno3000
    @Henno3000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I thought I have a network problem at 12:00 lol 😁

  • @rjamesorcena3329
    @rjamesorcena3329 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great review and nice opinion to all.. hopefully this year i get the Aprilia RSV4 1100 2020, i'll try to my self..

  • @adamstratford6740
    @adamstratford6740 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ive just become a proud owner of a 2018/19 Aprilia RSV4 RR. Ive only rode it back from the dealership but in them couple of hours its blew my mind just how good the bike feels. Obviously i need to get to know the bike better but they do say first impressions last and this has definitely left its mark on me 💯. Adam 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @selectrideorrace6344
      @selectrideorrace6344 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where abouts you from Adam?

    • @adamstratford6740
      @adamstratford6740 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Select Ride or Race uk 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 buddy 👍🏻

    • @ALC6914
      @ALC6914 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have any problem with water pump,,,( leaking coolant) .I have the same one like you and went back to dealer 3 times for that,,,bad bad bad

    • @adamstratford6740
      @adamstratford6740 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cristian Alexandru ive not no mate sorry to hear you’re having problems dude 😔

    • @ryanmalone2681
      @ryanmalone2681 ปีที่แล้ว

      Out of curiosity, how tall are you and how uncomfortable is it? I’m 6’2” and not sure if I can deal with the high pegs or not.

  • @happydays1165
    @happydays1165 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11 year old design Aprilia still kicking the best most up to date bikes in the nuts Aprilia is on a different level

  • @terryboehler5752
    @terryboehler5752 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review! Best ever!

  • @rickbgard
    @rickbgard 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review and I agree with the result!!

  • @axs7689
    @axs7689 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I watch these with so much interest but I'll still never get rid of my old ass 05 R1. Progress waving me on by but I'm cool with it.

  • @Gautam454
    @Gautam454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I would choose either Italian bike over the S1000rr on the engine alone. Inline 4s are very effective but simply don't have character

  • @randyheiser5367
    @randyheiser5367 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Is Adam the guy on Ancient Alien's? Lol

    • @Adeysworld
      @Adeysworld 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Adam was first with the hair. lol

  • @650ib
    @650ib 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Great review! Why didn't you use the Ducati V4R for this comparison? ✔️✔️✔️✔️

    • @dheerajmurthy393
      @dheerajmurthy393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. If it was track a comparison then v4r was the bike.

    • @joeridestrijcker445
      @joeridestrijcker445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      perhaps they had a certain budget in mind?

    • @Csirkefoga
      @Csirkefoga 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think Ducati does Not allow comparisons with the V4R.

    • @adrianbrown3894
      @adrianbrown3894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is the same the same thing I was wondering why not the V4R

    • @VinnigsSpinTheBlock
      @VinnigsSpinTheBlock 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Electronics... simple

  • @jorgemarques8708
    @jorgemarques8708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's interesting how the reviews are different from the US to Europe! :D

    • @BrianEvansracer
      @BrianEvansracer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      not really > th-cam.com/video/5q3sbhq9dcs/w-d-xo.html

  • @AkaiSuzume
    @AkaiSuzume 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Oh yea, my Aprilia is godly

  • @bakrs5417
    @bakrs5417 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Aprilia the Greatest bike ever

  • @beasto61
    @beasto61 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video I also like the Aprilia

  • @motozest7856
    @motozest7856 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That BMW restriction seems to be only for the US models. Here in Europe we're having no problems whatsoever.

  • @Calidro146
    @Calidro146 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good vid. Shout out to Cory Call and SJ BMW for the bike!

  • @what2watchyt
    @what2watchyt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice. Excited about the new KTM, these guys got some competition.

  • @CyberGasty
    @CyberGasty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Through the years as the new bikes come out, first S1000RR, R1M, Ducati V4S in the year of the new model they were compared with RSV4 and would be chosen as the best bike of the year. When the hype of the new bike is gone, whenever the journalist would do another test of superbikes RSV4 would be THE number 1, and that consistently from 2010. That says a lot about how good that bike as a concept is. The same goes for the other Supernakeds vs Tuono.

  • @robert673
    @robert673 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done!

  • @BIKELOVERsojib
    @BIKELOVERsojib 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also like aprilia. Love from Bangladesh |🇧🇩

  • @nelsonlorenzo6424
    @nelsonlorenzo6424 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Getting a Yamaha R1 soon and I have a son on the way! Can't wait till we ride together!!

    • @adult1122
      @adult1122 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck i tried with my brothers when they where young both turned it down. But my son just got his crf50 and is taking to it like a fish to water. Some like it some don't

  • @adult1122
    @adult1122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah! Something wrong with that bmw, i hate them but wanna try 1. I think i will go for 2019 there on sale and still makes hell of power. The old 1 was what 179 stock vs 2020 182 stock. I don't mind a good deal.

  • @washedup_adventurer
    @washedup_adventurer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting. This video encapsulates the often debated how much electronics is too much on a motorcycle. One having electronics hampering the experience, one with electronics enabling the ability to ride, and the last with limited electronics to allow more feel. Their conclusions are very telling...

  • @coreybarnes8860
    @coreybarnes8860 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I could use that Aprilia for some food deliveries, and to wake my neighbors up 😇

  • @thephao4327
    @thephao4327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This more of a stand-off, because all the other superbikes are just watching

  • @lachlancrutchfield1916
    @lachlancrutchfield1916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hang on, so the Aprilia is only 0.3 seconds faster than the neutered Beemer? Says it all, as if anyone buying the Beemer for track days isn't going to flash it anyway.

    • @sk2283
      @sk2283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yes I see your point, but on track its running in the higher RPM range anyway not in the lower midrange so there wouldn't be much difference. but if you have to spend $1000 or so to have a re-map you are more likely going to add an exhaust $$$$ more .... it kind of makes it not comparable - as to be fair you would then put a full system and flash the Ducati & Aprilia .... Either way all 3 are epic and way above the Japanese competition !

    • @Turbo329
      @Turbo329 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sk2283 You're only half right. Depending on the track and the corner, you could be right in the flat spot of the powerband and lose "POP" off the corner when driving out. Two bike lengths lost coming off a slow to moderate speed corner is 2 tenths of a second. Multiply that by how many slow to moderate corners you have on any given track and the time lost per lap is huge.

    • @happydays1165
      @happydays1165 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And then flash the Aprilia and see how quick it is there all standard form

  • @gigi9467
    @gigi9467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Guys could u post some
    Lap times? I race at this track and just curious how fast this bikes are thanx

    • @veteq101
      @veteq101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they did at the end of the video...

    • @gigi9467
      @gigi9467 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      veteq101 yea went back and heard it

  • @mmazourov
    @mmazourov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    BMW: welcome to Euro 5 regs - the “future” of motorcycling. You guys probably had a different map in Portimao

    • @fattymcgee123
      @fattymcgee123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Likely, yeah. Best part is, slip on and tune, you're still several grand under what you'd pay for the other two.
      My current bike would fail euro 1, if there ever was such a thing.

    • @mmazourov
      @mmazourov 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fattymcgee123 very true, I was in Alcarraz in May with one of 44teeth guys when he was testing out the S1000RR M Sport - he said the electronics package on that bike made it almost as good at the previous year's HP4... FOR UNDER £20K!!!!

    • @johnnyblaze1372
      @johnnyblaze1372 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      dont worry this will be also in Europe i dont wonna Buy Bikes after 2019,its a fact that tha acctually BMW s1000RR and the v4 s has les Power as the first Models of bouth.Eaven in Europe

    • @mmazourov
      @mmazourov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnnyblaze1372 not sure I understand... Euro 5 applies to us in Europe, I am just saying that the lads rode differently mapped BMWs in Portimao. Anywho, all you need is to remove 4-5 cats, put a new end can and get it remapped - good as new

    • @johnnyblaze1372
      @johnnyblaze1372 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mmazourov yey i know but its not legal on Road and your Garanty avoid.Somthing is hapend with the Power of the BMW and Ducati.First Model of Ducati put 6 hp more and BMW also and today eaven 5 hp less as the first comming Bike

  • @jkalkstein
    @jkalkstein 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So if you got the s1000rr flashed and threw on a full Akra system would that change opinions? Given the $2,500 difference between the BMW and the Aprilia that would offset that. You'd lose further weight and gain immense torque in the mid-range and top end horsepower. Love to hear Cycle World's thoughts on that.

    • @snikwadRR
      @snikwadRR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, but would likely void your warranty too.

    • @Rellek
      @Rellek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And its not streetlegal anymore

    • @krayzieegg7294
      @krayzieegg7294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      44 teeth dynoed the aprilla and bmw and if i remember correctly the bmw won the test and having just a 999cc compare to the aprilla makes bmw still the king of engine superbikes probably even all around.. on a drag race bmw raped aprilla so bad.. but you cant deny how good that v4 engine sounds though

    • @Lawson7086
      @Lawson7086 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@krayzieegg7294 It didn't rape the Aprilia at all, yes it beat it but didnt rape it, furthermore you can clearly see in the 44teeth video they had the Aprilia with the "sport" map selected on every drag race!, Why would you drag race in the Sport map? its the least aggressive map out of the 3 maps you can select on the Aprilia!, unless you haven't done your research on which map is the most aggressive and which map is the least aggressive map?, "Sport" being the least and the "RACE" map being the most aggressive, that alone ruined their comparison for me!, if you look at the Aprilia screen in this video they had the race map selected, also talking about flashing the BMW, almost everyone that buys a new Aprilia dumps the Kated AKRA puts on the none kated Akra and installs the Aprilia Race ECU, so doubt a flash on the BMW would still beat the Aprilia.

  • @n300zx931
    @n300zx931 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need that Aprilia in my life. I’ve got the Honda VFR1200F but she’s a bit heavy. The RSV4 is the light weight V4 I need.

  • @tristandrew5903
    @tristandrew5903 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are power figures down? Is that the fuel in the US or US spec?

  • @karl8805
    @karl8805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So all the uk..and european vids i have seen..the s1000rr is the quickest...yet here in the US the bmw seems extra restricted?

  • @AcXr50
    @AcXr50 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Still not enough for me to rid of my 14' rsv4 factory for the new one.

    • @grahambroad5364
      @grahambroad5364 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here. I still think the RSV4 design is stunning but it is also 10 years old and I reckon they can give it a little tickle here and there, then I might part with some more cash !

  • @RobertOrtiz1015
    @RobertOrtiz1015 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Feels like manufacturers are in a electronics/displays war and are over saturating these bikes with crap! I rented a 2019 bmw bagger w hen i went to Denver a couple months ago and it took me 20-30 mins to learn the electronics and i got to a point that i just wanted to turn everything off and just ride... extremely frustrating... i love my z900 for that reason... i saddle up, start bike and ride! No distractions! No hold ups waiting on displays and modes and crap

  • @galratner
    @galratner 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video! Too bad about the bmw.

  • @ExpatonTwoWheels
    @ExpatonTwoWheels 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was an awkward start to the interview. It did get better once you guys got going.

  • @Fiqih
    @Fiqih 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cycle world motorcycle magazine????

  • @Fire.Rabbit
    @Fire.Rabbit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If i had the money ill get the ducati. Still dreaming that i wish i could have v4s someday.

  • @sireevessireeves5072
    @sireevessireeves5072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It would be cool if Aprilia won more than just the journo's affections, like actual races.

    • @happydays1165
      @happydays1165 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Steven Reeves
      With 294 Grand Prix races won in Road Racing World Championship, Aprilia holds the record for the most wins of any European manufacturer in the history of maximum motorcycle competition. These are joined by an impressive 54 world titles: 38 in Road Racing World Championship (20 in 125 and 18 in 250), 7 in Superbike (Rider and Manufacturer double win in 2010, 2012 and 2014, manufacturers in 2013) and 9 in Off Road disciplines (7 in Supermoto and 2 in Trial).

  • @jongreene4687
    @jongreene4687 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, guys! I def want one of these bikes next year! Also, who has the Shoei Daijiro Kato Memorial? I have one too! #twinsies 🤙🏽✌🏽🏍💨

  • @leokeller682
    @leokeller682 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They made it aound like the Ducati was too fast for them to handle. I remember another review where they said the Streetfighter 1098 was too much for daily riding and then said the knock off Super Duke was better because it had more power. The next thing you know, they'll be quoting JD Powers.

    • @markjurczyk
      @markjurczyk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ducati is a junk, overpriced junk

    • @2_Bike_is_Life
      @2_Bike_is_Life 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Everyone seems to say that the Ducati is like riding a razor at the top end of the performance curve. These guys were saying the same.

    • @ShamanWS6
      @ShamanWS6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What they're actually saying is that the chassis isn't up to the demands of the motor.

  • @BinhLe-uf7vj
    @BinhLe-uf7vj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ducati, BMW, Aprilla, KTM, MV agusta, Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki

  • @eddiet204
    @eddiet204 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how does the 2017 S1000rr compare to the 2019 out of the box. Not concerned about the specs, just seat of the pants. I’m on a 2017 as my track bike and have owned all the other liter bikes and the S1000rr is the easiest to go fast on for me.

  • @MrAckers75
    @MrAckers75 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t by a super bike to be fucking comfy!
    And when the Ducati is dismissed due to it being a wild ride I was lost for words.

  • @ricosta75
    @ricosta75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aprilia!!! ❤️

  • @mysurlytrucker7510
    @mysurlytrucker7510 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That aprilia is awesome.

  • @greenjackal4362
    @greenjackal4362 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The RSV4, the chassis/engine combination make it an assassins tool. Piloted by a skilled rider, the chassis will overtake BHP all day long. Aprilia' Achilles heel is,,,, it's the smallest factory of all the premier factories, yet it's a force.

  • @kawicepticon8866
    @kawicepticon8866 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ll take the Duc since it makes me feel Like I’m taming a wild animal while the Ape feels like a trained attack dog and the bmw felt like the dog was neutered and laked the “it” factor . The
    duc looks the best and makes me smile the most and fliessss w the full Akra and flash

    • @2_Bike_is_Life
      @2_Bike_is_Life 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree with everything you said, except the sound of the ape is nuts, and I'd prefer not to ride the edge if I can help it. :)

  • @utubeski42
    @utubeski42 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    big ups to aprilia man, the rsv4 is a 10yo design just about, still king of the hill against the all new beemr and duke v4... amazing.... i luuuurve my tuono! the sound man, the sound!! buhahah

    • @ShamanWS6
      @ShamanWS6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      11yo actually.

    • @cannondaleit
      @cannondaleit 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also have a Tuono with the Akra & race flash, it’s worth it for the sound alone, nothing else like it 👍

  • @expatbiker6598
    @expatbiker6598 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best bike should be the one that takes you to the finish line a 10th faster. Doesn't matter the difficulty.

    • @hby7768
      @hby7768 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      that would be skill level no the bike - spend 10 tracks days on any one these bikes and you will be faster than spending 5 trackdays on the other

  • @rogase68
    @rogase68 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In race pro mode on the BMW dynamic dampening is reduced to just 10% of the dampening range. I would have thought that translates to a pretty consistent setup

  • @pags1981
    @pags1981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The BMW has been crippled by emission restriction, thanks to the CA Govt. Can't blame the Germans for being cautious after VW/Audi being sued...

    • @mroy2443
      @mroy2443 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So why isn't this the case with any of the other 2 bikes? German engineers couldn't figure it out but April and Ducati can? You have to flash the ECU and void the warranty to make it run correctly. Sad. So my point is...we can blame the Germans for releasing it like this in the us market.

  • @vdsedits3542
    @vdsedits3542 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The guy in the cap looks like young rossi wearing a ktm cap😂

  • @theoracleprodigy
    @theoracleprodigy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to ride an Aprilia from everything they say. I really don't get what they mean about the Ducati being a wild ride. I mean yeah it head shakes all the time, wheelies quite easily, head shakes more... Oh I have the 1199 R and quite love it. Although if you want a wild ride try an old liter bike. These new liter bikes are kittens compared to some of those older bikes that are 100% manual.

  • @grabir01
    @grabir01 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    lap times?

  • @roberthone1230
    @roberthone1230 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    BMW designed a super bike for old guys, so they put a lot protection in the ECU and the modes

  • @aurorajones8481
    @aurorajones8481 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I rode my upgraded 18 RF to test the 1100 back to back and was blown away. Its balls to the wall better in every respect. Sadly i was riding to close to a dude w/ no track exp and fell off th mountain as i tried to pass him in his R1M he had a sloppy line, my bike is gone and im home from 3 weeks of hospital after an airlift. split my pelvis in two but i can fucking walk!! Not supposed to, im kept to the wheelchair for another 3 weeks. Lesson learned, its gonna be 3 months to recover :( . BUT the 1100 is now mine when i can lift my leg over it. :)

  • @vozzen
    @vozzen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are talking about the bikes like someone is just going to own the bike for a week. Of course you will flash the ecu on the BMW, I live in europe so I don't have that problem tough. You will probably learn the settings over time? And if you want to race with your bike it's the only 1000cc of the bunch.

  • @hfr8343
    @hfr8343 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you have a shootout with 3 bikes?

    • @iodineclip
      @iodineclip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      they just did

    • @hfr8343
      @hfr8343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iodineclip This reply was more annoying than anything

    • @krayzieegg7294
      @krayzieegg7294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iodineclip i was thinking the same thing lol

  • @pramathewyayawar7857
    @pramathewyayawar7857 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've one word for all these three: CBR 1000RR-R

  • @theplaguemaster4522
    @theplaguemaster4522 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    no offense to that dude but that hair garra go my guy

  • @eashwar999
    @eashwar999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1000cc BMW Vs 1100.... Already chose the winner.

  • @ethanher1683
    @ethanher1683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. Where's the new R1?

    • @Fearless154
      @Fearless154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From what i heard it's basically the same as current model but with updated suspension, Better looks and shiter brakes.

  • @GarryMcGovern
    @GarryMcGovern 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    'The original 1199s Panigale's electronics were 'godawful'? Uhhh, funny that nobody ever said that at the time! :/

  • @sgomez3047
    @sgomez3047 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What Tha is up with that mophead!! 😳

  • @tomlou975
    @tomlou975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the 2016 rsv4 factory and i will Buy the 1100 because cheaper than the ducati but very brutal

  • @MansurPropertyBSD
    @MansurPropertyBSD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where MV Agusta F4 RC??

    • @dennism1919
      @dennism1919 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point! I would not have minded seeing that in the shoot out either! Those things are like unobtanium, though, so it will never happen. But still, it would have been interesting. You wonder if it could hang...

  • @TomaszSkwarek83
    @TomaszSkwarek83 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting how your opinion on BMW and RSV4 is exact opposite of what MCN said 🤔

    • @MCGMB
      @MCGMB 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The video specifically mentioned the tune differences between Euro and US versions of the BMW, with the Euro being stronger in the middle.

    • @TomaszSkwarek83
      @TomaszSkwarek83 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MCGMByes I did watch it before I posted the comment, and they also specifically said that even without a flat spot on the rev range (having ridden it in euro spec on the launch) it was numb, disconnected etc....

    • @rogase68
      @rogase68 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve got EUR spec and I still flashed it as it still has throttle restrictions albeit not as bad as the us. Once flashed the throttle is completely linear and it seriously hauls

    • @MCGMB
      @MCGMB 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the MCN comparison he specifically mentions the flaw of the intrusiveness of the BMW electronics -- which the CW comparison speculated as the reason for the numb feelings. In addition both comparisons mention how the BMW needs to be revved more -- almost like a 600 -- to get proper speed. And I believe the lap-time order was exactly the same between the two comparisons. The subjective opinions of the Aprilia were also mostly alike. My point being the comparisons were remarkably similar, Euro-tuning on the BMW excepted. Semantics excepted.

    • @sk2283
      @sk2283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      MCN was running 3 full page adverts for BMW that week and their tester has been given one for a year as his long term test bike ..... Aprilia don't do favours or big ad spends in the UK. Also on track with a neutral rider the Aprilia still came out quickest in the MCN test .... But either way all 3 of them are amazing, pick the one you like best not the one some tester does, it's your money ! I have ridden all of them and own a 2017 RSV4RF and agree with the testers here, the Ducati is the wild ride, BMW a bit underwhelming, the Aprilia stable smooth and useable. All get 99/100 from me !

  • @evafilmbyantonioeva922
    @evafilmbyantonioeva922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bmw the best, for me.
    V4R is the BEAST

  • @sprottehome
    @sprottehome 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rsv4 i'm in love

  • @sherwinsalvatori6997
    @sherwinsalvatori6997 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    RSV4♡♡♡♡♡♡☆☆☆☆☆

  • @beasto61
    @beasto61 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shame on BMW ,Effing with the ECU.. so it doesn’t run like it supposed to and the dealer should tell you that before you pay 20,000 for it, although there’s a couple people that can flash it it seems to work pretty good again that’s not what I’m paying for.That destroys the shift Cam technology no mid range!!!

    • @pags1981
      @pags1981 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup they buggered the ECU, flash that puppy!

  • @darylhagle8565
    @darylhagle8565 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is wrong with that guys hair in the middle ??’ 😂

    • @kmbot
      @kmbot 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      he will fix it, no worries

    • @allnighterist
      @allnighterist 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah he reminds mo of that guy in ancient alien series

  • @ducati3694
    @ducati3694 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ducati all the way

  • @Chickenstrips77
    @Chickenstrips77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:53 lap times?? I wanna see the video. That’s a very good time even for an ‘expert’ level AFM racer.

    • @MustMoto
      @MustMoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gilbert races MotoAmerica Superstock. Finished third in the championship for 2019. He is a pro, not expert.

    • @Chickenstrips77
      @Chickenstrips77 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MustMoto Proof is in the pudding.

    • @MustMoto
      @MustMoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Chickenstrips77 yeah, cause we just make up lap times.

    • @Chickenstrips77
      @Chickenstrips77 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MustMoto You basically did by not providing the proof. All good, I'll make the assumption because hes a pro.

    • @MustMoto
      @MustMoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Chickenstrips77 we will be posting hot lap videos within the next couple of weeks.

  • @sbsb4995
    @sbsb4995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aprilia is always the king.

    • @wikki1350
      @wikki1350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Clueless.

  • @Kurlach
    @Kurlach 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why haven’t I seen a single person talk about ‘disconnect’ with the S1000RR? I have the M package and it’s brutally fast, looks great, stops quick, and is comfortable. ‘Disconnect’ my arse ffs.
    Might want to watch IOM and then talk about it’s lack of performance..

  • @1EVILZ06
    @1EVILZ06 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The euro 4-5 emissions is what’s killing the power. Get them on a dyno and a custom tune and remove that 2 ton packed with catalytic converters exhaust then call me.

  • @stephanest-pierre7646
    @stephanest-pierre7646 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    first , le bmw est seulement 999 cc , second pourquoi personne mentionne que le bmw est déjà
    euro 5 et les deux autre euro 4 énorme différence

    • @2_Bike_is_Life
      @2_Bike_is_Life 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Difference may be big, but why talk about fair comparisons without other important factors? Or you prefer to leave them out because it breaks your case? Like how old is the Aprilia chassis/platform? Or how the Ducati is race bread, or how most bmw owners have a stick up their derriere? It's top three bikes in the world right now. That, and how much $$$ will come out of your wallet.

    • @Csirkefoga
      @Csirkefoga 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stephane St-pierre can’t You just plug Your french into google translate or learn english like everybody else?

    • @stephanest-pierre7646
      @stephanest-pierre7646 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      bravo super commentaire ta juste a apprendre le français

    • @Csirkefoga
      @Csirkefoga 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stephane St-pierre it’s almost ALWAYS the french who make this about the Ego. Newsflash: English is a world language, french is not.

    • @stephanest-pierre7646
      @stephanest-pierre7646 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Csirkefoga fuck you man you understand the :)

  • @Coldestaevadoit
    @Coldestaevadoit 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These bikes are getting waaayyy too expensive

  • @Showmetheevidence-
    @Showmetheevidence- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Haven’t watched this vid yet, and picking the BMW as the winner.
    Also isn’t it a rad time to be alive... how can you go wrong with any of these beasts (and even smaller classes of bikes)!
    2:40 -moaning about some dip yet revs climbing like a mofo 😬

    • @AGD_27
      @AGD_27 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are talking about dips in power. That graph they show plots the revs in a continuous line so any dip you see is a dip in power not revs.

  • @beanwithbaconmegarocket
    @beanwithbaconmegarocket 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imma just get a r1m

  • @No_S3rvice
    @No_S3rvice 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aprilia FTW!

  • @keionchase2144
    @keionchase2144 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    October 2019......youre ONLY the 2nd CHANNEL to compare all 3. Congrats😒😒😒😒

    • @krayzieegg7294
      @krayzieegg7294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and im like i hope this is better than MCN.. unfortunately the flat spot made this the truth but irrelevant for guy who doesnt reside in the US.. but still better than MCN though

    • @keionchase2144
      @keionchase2144 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@krayzieegg7294 Yeah...now that you mention it MCN was lacking. They disagreed on the Aprila being tall guy friendly????