2018 Aprilia RSV4 RF Vs. Ducati Panigale V4 S - Part 1: Track

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  • We teased you recently with a dyno shootout between the Aprilia RSV4 RF and the Ducati Panigale V4 S, with the Ducati blowing the doors off the less powerful - and smaller displacing - Aprilia to the tune of 187 hp for the Panigale and 168 hp for the RSV4. This set the stage for our track shootout between the two Italians nicely, as on paper, anyway, the Ducati seemingly has the Aprilia’s number. A bigger engine clearly gives it a power advantage, while 20 pounds less mass on the official MO scales and electronic Öhlins suspension prevails over the RSV4’s extra heft and manual Öhlins bits. But what does that all translate to once the tire warmers come off and fast lap times need to be set?
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  • @Real_MisterSir
    @Real_MisterSir 6 ปีที่แล้ว +371

    The Ducati is like the hot and crazy one night stand with that chick from the club. One hell of a night for sure, but you probably aren't gonna be able to keep up that lifestyle every day. The Aprilia is the girl you actually want to wake up to the next morning, the girl you can appreciate for everything she is, and who brings the best out in you.
    RSV4 best waifu

    • @Hellsslave666
      @Hellsslave666 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      The thing is, even the Aprillia is the type of wife that goes bungee jumping with you, and pushes you out of the plane while sky diving :D.
      She still brings out the crazy in you.
      Most Peoples wives are a Goldwing or a BMW R1200 GS :D

    • @reerbaadia1896
      @reerbaadia1896 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Which wives are you on. Only in machines will you find consistency.

    • @axs7689
      @axs7689 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      With that logic I suppose the CBR is the librarian wife until you realize it's a liter bike and she has more than enough to make you work just as much as the club one night stand.

    • @kareldegreef3945
      @kareldegreef3945 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      mmmm => i've seen this comment before a few months ago ;-)
      it is still a good , might i even say a classic comment .
      but i hope your the same guy who said it and not a coppy cat because you need to pay royalties for it , hahahahhaa ;-D

    • @cnossen86
      @cnossen86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Daniel Kemnitz I’ll tame that hot chick from the club..

  • @sebastiansanchez3248
    @sebastiansanchez3248 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How come they did not clarify that this review was shot at 2 different tracks?

  • @nitingiri230
    @nitingiri230 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love❤😘Ducati

  • @imaleafonatree6128
    @imaleafonatree6128 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Aprilia is more practical as no one would do track day everyday but if u have the money and the balls then go ahead with the ducati

  • @williamtravis9283
    @williamtravis9283 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those suits speak volumes!

  • @edwardlo3599
    @edwardlo3599 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I spy footage from The Ridge, while on-board the V4S

  • @bobbybackmarker9665
    @bobbybackmarker9665 6 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    I'd use that 4 thousand uprading the suspension on my 08 Fireblade and spend the 20 odd thousand left over on hookers and booze :)

    • @GIGABACHI
      @GIGABACHI 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bender approves...don't forget the Black Jack.

    • @crimzikk
      @crimzikk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dont forget the charlie

    • @bobbybackmarker9665
      @bobbybackmarker9665 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      crimzikk 20 grand might not be enough! ;)

    • @axs7689
      @axs7689 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol best way to go about it

    • @docdude3007
      @docdude3007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'd buy both then to celebrate go and spend $20k hookers, booze and coke.

  • @JaretCampisi
    @JaretCampisi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    I think this was a really fantastic review guys. Very well done. It sounds like the Aprilia is much more consistent and probably faster for the average track rider where the Ducati has an insane engine and might be a bit more out of control. The question I always ask myself as an enthusiast is which bike is more fun and would you want to see in your garage at the end of the day? For me the sex appeal of the Ducati is just too much to resist. haha

    • @HectorMariscal
      @HectorMariscal 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes sir! And just think this is the FIRST Panigale V4S! Just wait until the next few generations!

    • @colonialrogue1997
      @colonialrogue1997 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jaret Campisi Your feed must be inundated with Ducati videos.

    • @TroySiahaan
      @TroySiahaan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really appreciate the reply, Jaret. Thanks! You've pretty much summed up our opinions. Ha! Personally, I wouldn't mind either one in my garage. :) Your bike looks great, btw!

    • @TheSuperpod
      @TheSuperpod 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very much agree. Sex appeal is a big deal for buyers when performance is so close. I think Panigale just needs more seat time and tweaking. I found that I love my V4S more and more as the time and track days go by. Some things were not to my liking at the beginning but with time and some suspension adjustments this bike came to me. I also ride 17 Tuono daily and can fully appreciate the differences. The engine, technology and sex appeal is what sold me V4S, plus having Tuono and RSV4 would be kinda silly =). Great review.

    • @felixarbable
      @felixarbable 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its wierd the 44 teeth guys say the exact opposite, the rsv4 requires a better rider to get the most out of it

  • @TheSpeedKing
    @TheSpeedKing 6 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I'd go with the RSV4 anyway, thanks for the 24 min. talking :D great video

    • @TroySiahaan
      @TroySiahaan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @Wu.Tang.Financial
    @Wu.Tang.Financial 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The RSV4s are such dope track weapons. On my third Ducati but I swapped for a friend’s priller on a track day and it was just so easy to go fast with. V4s are the best sounding sport engines too, full stop.

  • @epicengines2565
    @epicengines2565 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Very happy to arrive in the comments and see Aprilia supporters because I honestly didn't expect them with this new Ducati. RSV4 FTW

  • @rio3242
    @rio3242 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I Love Ducati💓😍

  • @krysistheabyss
    @krysistheabyss 6 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Rsv4 still has the better sound. Rsv4 any day of the week.

    • @ChronicTHCBlaze
      @ChronicTHCBlaze 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The Aprilia is a true V4

    • @tnelliott2447
      @tnelliott2447 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Desmo Dromico I wouldn’t really say that
      I’ve owned Ducati and Aprilia
      Different bikes for different likes
      Pros and cons on both

    • @hydrochroniccthculu9550
      @hydrochroniccthculu9550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Desmo Dromico mv agusta= ferrari

  • @albaniansk8er
    @albaniansk8er 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Aprilia all day. RSV4 1100 and the RSV4 RR my machine of choice.

  • @grindathont9729
    @grindathont9729 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    whats wrong with the color in the video the duc looks like its been sitting in the sun for 10yrs and has faded

    • @neilrevhead9941
      @neilrevhead9941 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looks like wax hasn't been buffed

  • @guybramwells
    @guybramwells 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the looks of the Aprillia more. I think in a few years the Ducati will get updated and tweaked and adress its weaker areas. If I had to buy an Italian race bike. It would be an MV augusta F3 800 RC Limited edition. Its gorgeous!

  • @sk2283
    @sk2283 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    RSV4 is more refined and stable, the Ducati is more powerful but wild and loose - you have that spot on, I have an RSV4 RF & have ridden the Ducati. the 4K difference buys an Akrapovic tail pipe that removes the CAT & flapper valve and adds a few HP Plus Lithium battery to same more weight, and still have enough left over for a couple sets of tyres and a few track days !
    Let’s see how good the Ducati gets after 2 years of recalls and developments 😉 and the new Aprilia will be out then too!

    • @TheRidersHistories
      @TheRidersHistories 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/channels/17AsiF0ZDJdhvNdTM6CdfA.html?view_as=subscriber&pbjreload=10
      Um canal criado e elaborado para os apaixonados por motocicletas, onde as experiências e histórias são interpretadas e contadas pelo próprio público, ou seja, as grandes estrelas são os amantes por duas rodas em matérias sensacionais. Nossa proposta é formar um canal onde iremos revelar contos e segredos vividos em viagens nas mais diversas rodovias, proporcionando aos motociclistas a oportunidade de compartilhar suas aventuras.

  • @fenrir1g
    @fenrir1g 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I would get rsv4rf and a full system exhaust for 4k bucks

  • @spktylr
    @spktylr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Aprilia 4 Eva! Caint wait to see what the 2019 1100cc RSV4 brings 😈

    • @DuzBee
      @DuzBee 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      AC Taylor Aprilia 4 Eva for the second place losers, always taking home the scraps because they couldn’t take home and Fuck the pram queen.

  • @MarcSob22
    @MarcSob22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love bolt bikes, but the Ducati all day for me!

    • @Curry3659
      @Curry3659 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bet you like BMWs too.
      LOL jk I couldn't resist.

    • @vicati7536
      @vicati7536 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bolt bikes? What in the fuck?

  • @KCB39
    @KCB39 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm a Ducati fan

  • @jessetaylor6976
    @jessetaylor6976 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Aprillia has had years of refining so not surprised it's better. I'll come back to the Ducati in 2-3 updates...
    Great vid guys!

  • @kshitij8845
    @kshitij8845 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can anyone tell me why Ducati which has 1100cc competes with rest of the superbikes which has less than or around 1000cc??? Like this RF which has 999.6cc to be precise.

  • @jaybusa3302
    @jaybusa3302 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Aprilia all day....i mean look at the facts. Ducati is lighter and has an extra 100cc so its also making more power. Ducati has all of the advantages and yet aprilia is right there with it. 3tenths of a second is a blink of an eye and aprilia is doing it for 4k less money. Also how can you put a price on comfortability. If you have to ride a bike but be scared the whole time that cant be much fun. Getting on a bike and becoming one with it and trusting the bike is on your side working with you is the best feeling.

    • @Curry3659
      @Curry3659 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not dissing you, it just funny to see someone with busa in their name chime in, sensibly, on a debate on two great handling bikes

    • @ar1029
      @ar1029 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jay busa Yeah thats all cool and all but if you had the money and the choice you would pick the Ducati EVERY DAMN TIME. You know it.

    • @jaybusa3302
      @jaybusa3302 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Curry3659 thats cuz i dont only own a busa....👍🏻

    • @stevehash158
      @stevehash158 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well in EU the aprilia have been quicker EVERY time 😂😂 this track benfit POWER no doubt.

    • @jaybusa3302
      @jaybusa3302 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevehash158 well I think more to the point is how good the Aprilia really is there are going to be some tracks that suit a more high power motorcycle and some checks that suit a Nimble motorcycle but either situation the Aprilia will perform magnificently whereas even at a track that suits Ducati more being the more powerful motorcycle it's still a bear to ride I think that speaks volumes on how good the Aprilia really is

  • @matthewbrown7659
    @matthewbrown7659 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I need to try out a few Aprilia motorcycles... I've been finding it hard to get past the styling, which seems to be straight out of the 1990s.

  • @tonyrichengod9280
    @tonyrichengod9280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That presenter is as bland as unsweetened oatmeal...

  • @AcmeRocket
    @AcmeRocket 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    the 1000 cc goes to 10 but the 1100 cc goes to 11- thx cptn obvious 6:04

  • @james.shafiei
    @james.shafiei 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What's with the rolling shutter? Did you film the first segment with a mobile phone? Seriously distracting and nausea inducing when watching on a big screen. Part of the attraction to you channel is the 4K content but this video is much lower quality than normal. Doesn't even look like the footage was graded.

    • @googboog
      @googboog 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's not rolling shutter, that's just bad compression, most cameras use cmos sensors and they all have a small amount of rolling shutter, that's when stuff goes at angles when something passes by the screen quickly or the camera pans left or right quickly (source : am a camera guy)
      the stuff in this video is just skipping frames, it might be because of youtube's compression as well. I even saw square pixels in the new gopro 7 video

    • @james.shafiei
      @james.shafiei 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @googboog Sorry, mate - you're wrong. Rolling shutter also has a jelly effect when the camera is subjected to vibration. It is amplified when bad software stabilisation is applied in post. Clearly visible in the opening segment when the camera person is walking.
      Compression will just add artifacts when the scene is changing too quickly as the bitrate cannot keep up. Will not add jelly effect.
      (Source: also a camera guy - not that this means anything)

    • @googboog
      @googboog 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      i thought you were talking about the frames skipping at 9:55, the shots of the bikes moving past the screen pretty fast. didnt see the jello effect in the beginning. peace

    • @james.shafiei
      @james.shafiei 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@googboog definitely did not make it that far into this video

  • @lordsmessenger3855
    @lordsmessenger3855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    for me it doesn't matter what bike you choice, the important things is where you comfortable to ride and satisfied for your self

  • @spitfirezip100
    @spitfirezip100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd love to hear what suspension "fix" Shane Turpin would recommend for the Panigale V4S. You guys mentioned that the chassis on the Duc was a bit "hinged", but Shane said for a track bike he would go with the Panigale and "fix" the suspension. Was the "instability" of the Duc due to the chassis or the suspension or some combo of both??

  • @robociock
    @robociock 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When will the ducati v4 on the aprilia chassis happen by a private garage?

  • @Mazoox500
    @Mazoox500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    187hp? here in Europe it produces 214hp.

    • @Nycooful
      @Nycooful 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marcus Nibell us Pumped gas is kind of shitty to europe

    • @patrickmurphy8008
      @patrickmurphy8008 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nycooful No it is not. 91 octane is the same as 95 from europe, they way the formula and standards are set up is different.
      This is horsepower measured at the tire, not the crank.

    • @Nycooful
      @Nycooful 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Patrick Murphy yeah the german standard is 95octan and 5% biothanol.... US Standard is 85 or 87 with 10% Ethanol? So 100% the german gus has a better quality.
      Tire/ crank theory could be true 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @patrickmurphy8008
      @patrickmurphy8008 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Nycooful Europe uses the RON rating system versus the PON system of the u.s.
      98 in europe is equal to 93 in the u.s.
      The U.S. usually has 3 levels of fuel, at least where I live. 89, 91, 93.

  • @rogerpreece7762
    @rogerpreece7762 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting TRACK review. Many thanks. On the road though the Aprilia is way more user friendly...... doesn't burn your nads all the time. Chuck a £300-£400 end can on the Aprilia and you will get an extra 8odd horsepower.
    Ducati is like a Ferrari.... over one lap its super quick. But boy do you have to concentrate 100% all of the time which is actually rather tedious and tiring.... not everyone can ride or wants to ride like Marc Marquez.
    Aprilia a bit like a Porsche. Maybe very slightly slower over one lap, but you could do 10/20/30 laps all the same time and it won't want to throw you in a hedge all the time..... Check out what happened to Bautista in World Superbikes last year. Fastest bike, very fast rider and almost uncatchable for the first 5 or 6 races and he spent the rest of the year crashing!
    If you aren't bothered about crashing your own bike maybe Ducati might just have the edge. But check out how much grip you will still have after 5-10 laps. Ducati will screw its tyres up. The Aprilia won't.
    If you think the Aprilia RF is underpowered bear in mind its a 10year old design. Try the new 1100 Aprilia RSV Factory bike. It will walk away from any Duc V4S AND the R version!!!!
    Truly an awesome piece of kit. Better in cold weather conditions and in the rain. Electronics are better and nobody ever mentions it but if you ever ride at night the Ducati,s lights are crap.
    And here in the UK. Aprilia Dealers ( although there aren't that many ) are friendly, knowledgeable and helpful rather than Ducati Dealers who all seem to be up their own arses.
    My summary as an ex Racer myself so hopefully some relevant views. Ducati is the bike for dare I say it poseurs. Aprilia more for the true enthusiast, thinking man,s bike.And an Aprilia with a decent aftermarket exhaust. Wow! Sounds just like a MotoGP bike.
    Both great bikes. But for me save £10,000 and buy a 2nd hand RF . Unless you're a Superhero you will get a better all round bike. And much rarer to see them.

  • @Demonoid1990
    @Demonoid1990 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Aprilia RSV4 still looks better than the Ducati in my opinion, sounds better too. I'm really anxious to see when or if Aprilia will be roling out the RS 660 as a production bike soon. If they do, I might just go get my motorcycle endorsement a little sooner. Hopefully they'll put it into production for 2020 or 2021.

  • @georgegao3115
    @georgegao3115 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    V4...i prefer RSV4-FW, or RC213V-S would be my choice

    • @TheRidersHistories
      @TheRidersHistories 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/channels/17AsiF0ZDJdhvNdTM6CdfA.html?view_as=subscriber&pbjreload=10
      Um canal criado e elaborado para os apaixonados por motocicletas, onde as experiências e histórias são interpretadas e contadas pelo próprio público, ou seja, as grandes estrelas são os amantes por duas rodas em matérias sensacionais. Nossa proposta é formar um canal onde iremos revelar contos e segredos vividos em viagens nas mais diversas rodovias, proporcionando aos motociclistas a oportunidade de compartilhar suas aventuras.

  • @sbklvr
    @sbklvr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I just had Superbikeunlimited build me a sick rsv4 rf . Will eat the v4s on any track. From the ttx gp rear shock to the fkr front forks, oz gas wheels, Aprilia race ECU, Akra full ti evo, thumb rear brake, 520 conversion, attack rearsets, etc etc. When you take advantage of the Aprilia chassis, theres no beating it. ( still less$ than a Speciale including new RF)

    • @pags1981
      @pags1981 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup an RSV4 with a race ECU and decent setup will completely spank the Duke V4

  • @sherwinsalvatori6997
    @sherwinsalvatori6997 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ducati top. Aprilia great , I was scared as hell you guys would not as much allow a hair scratch on these beauties

  • @DLITINTHEHOUSE
    @DLITINTHEHOUSE 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aprilia has been refining and refining the same design for 10 years now. Makes sense it’s that much on point. The Panigale sounds like...a Panigale. They have always been beasts to handle, and I like that. I think with the Panigale, it has improved a ton for street riding. Looking forward to that review. They DO need to slap cruise control on it, though!

  • @navinbabji
    @navinbabji 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I already have the RSV4, was thinking about getting the new Ducati v4, thanks for this comparison.

  • @007ninja4
    @007ninja4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I was lucky enough to spend an entire day on the 2018 Ducati Panigale V4 Speciale and on the 2018 Aprilia RSV4 RF Limited Edition with Winglets... Both amazing bikes but for me hands down I much preferred the Aprilia, it was just much more user friendly and a more physically comfortable bike after a full day of riding. But that just my personal experience.

  • @GIGABACHI
    @GIGABACHI 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Aprilia consistency all the way...plus to me the Duc looks like dog barf and recycled looks. Don't care about top speed or HP, I'll leave that to the squids.

    • @Curry3659
      @Curry3659 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You calling 650ib a squid? That's Mr. Hyper Squid to you sir. Plus squids usually don't spend $2X,XXX+. They shop used

    • @GIGABACHI
      @GIGABACHI 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't. But I could if you want to.
      You're almost completely right on Squids. Most don't have money but some still do and take the plunge.

    • @stevehash158
      @stevehash158 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well in EU the aprilia have been quicker EVERY time 😂😂 this track benfit POWER no doubt.

  • @michaelm.1576
    @michaelm.1576 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And Aprilia has a “new bike”......yeah, do it again with the Factory 1100 and let us know what the outcome is.......the Duc is in big trouble ......Aprilia sublime indisputably the best handling in the world now with equal power but delivered much smoother and more usable than the V4 Pani.......Can’t wait for the redo of this competition.

  • @michaelpiano7052
    @michaelpiano7052 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Aprilia is and always was the chassis god. Ducati is and always was the twitchy god. That’s why these manufacturers are who they are. Honda is and always was the bore you to death god.

    • @pramathewyayawar6934
      @pramathewyayawar6934 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Michael Piano
      Honda was, is and always will be the best of the best. Be it GP racing or in real world riding.

  • @one-of-us9939
    @one-of-us9939 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If I owned a Ducati, you guys made me proud. I own aprilia RSV4 RF LE #14...
    1st sold aprilia says...
    and I cannot be happier!
    Thanks for your honest report.

    • @vicati7536
      @vicati7536 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whoaaa please do review.. any way we could see that baby?

  • @awdeveau
    @awdeveau 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm on my second Tuono and both were reliable. My current is a 2017 Tuono and I've put over 11k trouble free miles on it in a year, Aprilia just makes awsome bikes!

    • @amurika2018
      @amurika2018 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      SavageApeV4 until a day after warranty. Then sell that thing! Have to take a haircut but it’s still a superior choice.

  • @thepassionofthegoose5472
    @thepassionofthegoose5472 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have no interest in either bikes, but this is one of the best MC videos I've seen in years. A+ gentlemen.

  • @franklinwilkerson2061
    @franklinwilkerson2061 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    500th comment!! I love Ducati's and Aprilia's having had 2 each but for the tie breaker I bought........ an RSV4 1100 Factory! ('20).

  • @turkishexpress
    @turkishexpress 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great bikes, horrible commentary, exposure, color grading and sound on the video. C'mon man that's the best motorcycle.com can do?

    • @Curry3659
      @Curry3659 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. I've seen iphone videos with better quality. I still appreciate the honest, unscripted nature of the review though.

    • @rzu7120
      @rzu7120 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Having a bad day?

    • @Curry3659
      @Curry3659 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rzu7120 probably not

    • @beamdoctor5637
      @beamdoctor5637 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It wasn't horrible

    • @Erunanethiel
      @Erunanethiel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dogru soyluyosun baskan

  • @jryer1
    @jryer1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is the Ducati Panigale V4 at 1103cc being compared to 1000cc motorcycles in the first place? The Panigale V4 IS NOT a faster or more powerful motorcycle per cc than other manufacturers, so please stop trying to promote this bike as if it's better, because if fact it is worse! If and when the V4 has 1000cc engine then come back and do a real comparison, until then this is nothing but a lie!

  • @jasonetter9171
    @jasonetter9171 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every Ducati I have ever had (and I have had all of them) were set up like absolute garbage out of the crate. But they had the components to get dialed in really nice. A little spring change here, a little geometry change there, and you're ready to go bonkers.

  • @gnarshread
    @gnarshread 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review! I do wish there was a segment where your average intermediate group track day guy has his say. The average joe part of the review for the average skill level of people who will actually buy these bikes.

  • @greyanaroth
    @greyanaroth 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The ducati runs far too hot. Heat management is significantly superior on the aprilia. Maintenance can get tiring on the ape. But the riding confidence, sound and linear power makes the ape delicious. I do believe the new 2023 pani v4 finally gives the aprilia a run for the money in terms of feel

  • @Motofreebird
    @Motofreebird 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know what Clint Eastwood said opinions are like, and he is especially right on these recent comparisons of 2018. I myself have ridden these and more (34yrs) and am not a brand guy; am a straight shooting model focused guy. And no one should have any opinion . . . until they put a leg over the saddle, grip-and-rip the new Duck V4 (S+ preferably as the traction cntrl elct/Ohlins and +++ EVO flash esp w Akra!) and toss it hrd and exit a corner quickshifting full rippage!! No ad here, it WILL change your entire perspective on motorcycles evolution! | And to those waiting as if the next few years are a sound reason to wait, keep in mind this is a 2015 MotoGP motor tuned for the street/track day (as in 3yrs ago folks), and trust me that little could be better than this machine!!!! So much so, I bought a Speziale (yes my very first Duck!), and have been smil'in 1k mi a month (zero issues) on her as my own odometer rolls backwards to my two-stroke days!! 100% AMAZING!!!! 🤩👍🏻

  • @omieboriboun9862
    @omieboriboun9862 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Easy pic= spend the 4k $ at KWS for a 3mm over bore kit and get 220whp on race gas, maybe 10 less on pump gas. KWS has been doing this since 2010, when Max Biaggi won the WSBK championship for Aprillia. They used this motor as a prototype in the US. Proven technology, it's obvious it has the suspension, now you got the hp. KWS Motorsports.

  • @greenjackal4362
    @greenjackal4362 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aprilia has gotten it done with this chassis for 10yrs, and 999cc. Give Ducati 2 or 3 years to dial in their moto and they'll be asking for more cc's again. They can get it done with like displacement. Aprilia RVS4RF is the shit!

  • @toni3488
    @toni3488 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, 1100 cc on the new Aprilia ;)

  • @raynic1173
    @raynic1173 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this but most people can't even use a 600 cc to it's limits. And even if they can you can't do it on the street, that's just stupid, And how many will take a $27K bike and risk tossing it at the track? It's just a big ego driven, I have money, penis measuring stick. Take that money buy an older sport bike, tweek it and do a shit load of track or race days. Then get a sport tourer, cruiser or Motard for the street, bone heads...

  • @flowrider5548
    @flowrider5548 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a brilliant video! Slightly more riding shots vs. garage talk is still my preference (& no chewing gum please), but what an inspiring thing you just made. Truly well done, thank you!

  • @ducatirottie
    @ducatirottie 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Duca ALL DAY! are you kidding me?

  • @TomEnduro
    @TomEnduro 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The problem with the Aprilia choice is that once you have done 5 laps, you will be doing the same lap time and time again and you will be looking for something else in a few weeks.. Get the Ducati and spend the time to work out what you need to do to get the times down... What does the suspension do and why, what can I try differently... 4 grand buys you a lot of instruction days, but that is a given.. And a boring answer..

  • @biker9374
    @biker9374 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'The Aprilia RSv4 Factory' will finish the panigale any day....

  • @RizwanAnwarAKAFLYTIGER
    @RizwanAnwarAKAFLYTIGER 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ducati should've worked on their exhaust a bit more sounds like a power generator.the Aprilia sounds so much better. Ducati is prettier though in red. Maybe Aprilia needs to ditch all the extra colors and shit.looks Jamaican af

  • @aluisious
    @aluisious 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMFG guys turn off the image stabilization. I can't stand the swimming effect, THERE'S NO POINT.

  • @sylvandespres7654
    @sylvandespres7654 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    funny you guys are trying to split one hair in two.the aprilia is clearly a best investment for track purpose.why? simple.to make the panigaly as confidence inspiring,you'd be forced to stretch another 3k on the suspension.the fork on the panigale is a dud,a well known fact.so then you pay 4k more for the ducati,and then you must add another 3k to make it as stable and front end solid,when you can get all of this for 7k less with the rsv4.i'm racing R1's since decades,but i'm presently thinking about turning my street RSV4 into a track bike.in stock trim,i'm turning the same lap times with my aprilia VS my well mod'ed R1 2018.a no brained between the ducati and aprilia.aprilia alll the way.

  • @mysurlytrucker7510
    @mysurlytrucker7510 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love that amazing Aprilia

  • @bryanrothe4245
    @bryanrothe4245 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I think looks alone the Aprilia is better but I just went to pony Motorsports here in my hometown set on them both yesterday don't like either of them I'll stick with my Suzuki and a couple extra Grand in my pocket

  • @MegaTechpc
    @MegaTechpc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any sane person looking realistically at these two bikes would be far better off doing what I did and getting the RSV4RR for just $17k! 95% of the bike the RF is but with ten grand off the price of the Panigale! Win win!

  • @DuzBee
    @DuzBee 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahaha this comments page is full of Aprilia cry Bois, having a sook sook like little girls, willing to own a bike that comes second while trying not to act sad and pretending to ‘stay loyal’ to yesterdays seconds.

  • @axs7689
    @axs7689 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't believe I'm saying this being a Kawasaki and Yamaha fanboy but I would get the Gsxr out of the 1000s and between these two probably the Ducati.

  • @erik3131
    @erik3131 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aprilia all day.with the money saved get some head work done to the aprilia.That on top of a full exhaust and tune,the aprilia will be more than fast enough.Its the stronger foundation.

  • @ilmostro16
    @ilmostro16 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Either bike is better than 99.9% of us commenting here. Meaning, almost none of us can truly extract full performance out of either of these, so this entire discussion is moot. Buy the one you prefer the looks of, or the one you trust more for warranty and reliability. Because the details at the edge won’t matter for the majority of us who can buy one.

  • @polok890
    @polok890 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i dont see anything in ducati's line up of motorcycles that hasnt been ruined. from in the 90s, motorcycles so beautiful you could hardly stand it, to this .. big mess freak show of the ugliest motorcycles on the market. ducati's been lost since the 999 and ruined everything there after

  • @Vickyrocks247
    @Vickyrocks247 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did elbow down on my 7th lap..on my bone stock CBR650F .. track tyres though 🤣

    • @deathwish8339
      @deathwish8339 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      How the hell did you get elbow down on a stock 650f with those low ass foot pegs?

    • @Vickyrocks247
      @Vickyrocks247 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deathwish8339 Hahaha..yep buddy.. actually I thought of giving my 650F a try on the track, and as soon as I took the first corner, bang, the footpeg was firing, so For rest ofnthe session I tried to just have fun and enjoy the bike, so i was literally hanging out on the bike, intentionally trying to touch the elbow down 😂.. But to my surprise the bike did well than I thought.

    • @Vickyrocks247
      @Vickyrocks247 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deathwish8339 th-cam.com/video/ZNp4dUskGls/w-d-xo.html
      At 02:46 and 03:26 😂

  • @StatementPlus
    @StatementPlus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Holy crap, what potential for an awesome video and I couldn't watch past 2 minutes. Two of the most exciting bikes out there and you guys were able to make it boring. Run on commentary and sub par video production.

  • @Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy
    @Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the Aprilia personally. I picked up a Tuono RR this year, and sometimes wish I got the RSV instead, but I ride street almost exclusively, so Tuono it is. Street Bike of the year awards again, makes me happier in my choice. I like to see the frame on a bike, and Aprilia does that. I think the Ducati took a step back on the looks of the V4 this time, just because of how weird the frame looks now.

  • @Dougmcjock
    @Dougmcjock 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many people who buy any of these will track them? Not many, so why so much emphasis on track performance?

  • @DuzBee
    @DuzBee 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shane a world class rider picked Ducati, wanna be racer boys pick the ‘pussy class’ - Aprilia

  • @harshjeetsinghmahal3240
    @harshjeetsinghmahal3240 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    13:18 dat laugh

  • @prashantamohanta5994
    @prashantamohanta5994 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apprila rsv4 my favourite superbike

  • @tommygun4355
    @tommygun4355 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I enjoyed your review , both awesome machines.

    • @TroySiahaan
      @TroySiahaan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @thelifeofBrian8
    @thelifeofBrian8 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish you guys would have better camera angles and quality than a weekend youtuber.

  • @NovusMaximus
    @NovusMaximus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GREAT video guys. I loved your analysis of the dynamics of the two bikes. Keep up the good work.

  • @Jason-hk4uq
    @Jason-hk4uq 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    99% of these owners will be garage keeping these bikes and ride it to .05% of the bikes potential

  • @mzk6550
    @mzk6550 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Aprilia is my pick. 👍

    • @TroySiahaan
      @TroySiahaan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @petermoygannon698
    @petermoygannon698 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the chassis wins aprillia for a novice ..we are not race riders

  • @nothingtoseehere293
    @nothingtoseehere293 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The factory is the highest spec. That's what should be against the Ducati.

  • @southernboy5583
    @southernboy5583 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ducati=Ferrari Aprilia=holy fuck I’m gonna die

  • @Allamericangoth4258
    @Allamericangoth4258 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd have to go with the Ducati myself

  • @sophonchan4402
    @sophonchan4402 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a fair comparison, one is 1103cc the other is 999.6cc

  • @jordanjoestar8839
    @jordanjoestar8839 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ducati looks so boring looks wise setting next to the Aprilia

  • @chrispronk98
    @chrispronk98 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Turpin vs Fagan..
    who do you think is better?
    44Teeth FTW
    #team999

    • @TroySiahaan
      @TroySiahaan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh, that's a cool one. I'd like to see that. :)

  • @russellfederici865
    @russellfederici865 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would go with the Aprila too!!

  • @orestkendzora8661
    @orestkendzora8661 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It sounds like a moped, the noise of the older 999r sounds better

  • @one-of-us9939
    @one-of-us9939 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't EVER discount my RSV4 RF LE again!

  • @Gorbyrev
    @Gorbyrev 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review. Interesting there was no talk of how much extra power you could extract from the Aprilia for $4K. I suspect that might even the playing field a little on the straights!

    • @TroySiahaan
      @TroySiahaan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      True, although one way to look at it is that $4k of engine mods to the Aprilia could also make it less reliable. Any number of possibilities, really.

    • @stevehash158
      @stevehash158 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well in EU the aprilia have been quicker EVERY time 😂😂 this track benfit POWER no doubt.

  • @tysoncott7402
    @tysoncott7402 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    excluding that i’ve been around (quite a bit) both rsv4’s and pani’s these past few years at first glance of this video the aprilia absolutely blows away the duc for looks & the rsv is a several year old design!!!! the duc looks 1996’ish!

  • @LisaDiggin4595
    @LisaDiggin4595 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    you ask that Ducati guy, how about it? Ducati or Aprillia? whatt

  • @juanmaldonado3281
    @juanmaldonado3281 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    APRILIA. WOOOOOO. AWESOME. TNKS. SUPER. AWESOME. REVIEW

  • @deeshu3741
    @deeshu3741 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love both these bikes 😍❤️ #RSV4 #PANIGALEV4 💓❤️❤️

  • @morgantroost
    @morgantroost 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow guys get it together. This was like suffering through a highschool level students video production project. The dialogue is lame and hard to follow, the sound quality is garbage, and the host has all the knowledge and authority on the subject as a new rider showing off his cool new toy at the gas station. At this point I think Yammynoob is more of an authority and at least he's entertaining. Initially I was excited to watch the video because it's a matchup I've been waiting to see. Great subject. How about just the slightest amount of science, facts, or data included in the video. I didn't need to watch this to know "both bikes are awesome" ...
    Also your Superbike rider was a good choice, much more articulate and interesting to listen to than the other two goofballs. Too bad the host didn't ask any interesting questions. I really hope you guys can do better than this. I used to love these videos with the old hosts. Hope this doesn't end up being the videos I always skip over.