BMW S1000RR vs RSV4 1100 Factory | Head To Head
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- In this episode of head to head we take the BMW S1000RR the current top Daddy of the Superbike world and pitch it against the updated for 2020 Aprilia RSV4 1100 Factory! With a new scoring system a winner will be decided and pitched against the new kid on the block the 2020 Honda Fireblade CBR1000RR-R
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My head says BMW, my heart says Aprilla, my wife says 'don't even think about it'!
Hehe so does mine! 😂
Lol
Can you imagine if you were single? You'd probably never could figured out which bike to get and ended up with two :)
@@FxRiderST always the right answer Felix ;-)
We haven't got the same wife ? Have we ?
This format is absolutely excellent, really enjoying it! Glad I'm a patreon of you :)
Thanks Rutger! 😁😁👍👍
I’ve owned or ridden all the super nakeds and Aprilia Tuono was the best hands down. Power, chassis, ride, feel, fun, sound. Did everything amazingly. Now one I haven’t tried is the new 2020 Super Duke R and I’ve heard they improved the chassis significantly from the previous year which is the one I owned. That was the biggest downfall. And side-note, if you’re getting one of these bikes for the street get the naked version. Not a question.
It's worth noting the Aprilia is generally discounted by £2000 to £3500 depending on time of year etc. the BMW is full price = so they are the same in real terms
S K a very true comment, you could soon buy a set of carbon wheels, which would take it even high in the top trumps awards👍❤️❤️
You probably would not keep Aprilia for 5 y as it would brake too much,people that have them mostly say that they love them buy swap for something else as they brake so much,I had 2 RSV1000R and spent more time in the garage than on the road and from comments on a newer versions from riders it's even worse
Bloody hell. That aprilia is hot. Dang.
Hey, good co-host on this one, his input was great!
Some helibars would be needed for the Aprilia to take the strain of your wrists!
A little unfair in the scoring.
In saying that I agree with 99% of your scores.
Scored as a stock bikes:
The BMW got penalised for having carbon wheels and the Aprilia got points for the Acro exaust even though they were both stock items.
BMW lost points for having BMW branded brakes even though they worked better than the Brembos on the Aprilia. It is amazing what branding can do to your head.
BMW lost points on suspension because they were not branded Ohlins.
But they worked just as good if not more comfortable. but no bragging rights there.
syndrome
@allan in fairness, a Casio watch keeps better time than a Rolex but most people would prefer and find the Rolex more appealing. The same could apply to bikes I guess....?
Loving these vids Chops. Maybe score in secret so you don’t bias each other, then explain your reasons. That could be interesting lol
I bought the Aprilia Tuono V4 Factory late last year after seeing Chops review. Thank you Chops, It's a keeper Thx.
Chris Maxwell 😂 Me too 😍
I’m looking at a Tuono, what are your thoughts on it a year later? Miles and issues? Thanks!
This review format is much more interesting and easy to comprehend vs standard on bike reviews
Brilliant to hear thanks for the feedback 👍
Agree, like 44T videos
I too like this format - I would recommend a bit more time on the actual bikes.
PS: I humbly disagree with your result, guys.
The Aprilia gets a lot of points for her Brembo and Öhlins components and for the carbon parts that are used. I don't get the advantage of this. Functionally the Marzocchi Suspension on the BMW works more comfortable and therefore less exhausting on the road. And the Hayes brakes are as good as the Brembos concerning outcome. It's seems that the Aprilia got more points just for brand names and not the performance. If you look at the carbon bling-bling on the Aprilia, this is just optical but less functional stuff. The BMW ist lighter than the Aprilia and has carbon, where it's really needed: at the rims.
If you'll change all these mentioned point for the BMW, there's a clear winner. Not the RSV4.
It might be different on the race track. But in road use, the BMW is the clear winner.
I my eyes you've been emotionally distorted by the Aprilia and her heartwarming sound.
even on the track the s1k would be the winner! The electronic assists make that bike easy to lay down faster and faster lap times. It's one of the easiest 1k's to hop on the track on.
The BMW just feels kind of cheap and bland, this coming from a former owner
I think your discussion indicates how Aprilia got the RSV4 so right that they haven’t had to do much other than tweek and refine so that it’s still a major force among the Superbikes of today. As you’ve said as well, there are no bad bikes just different flavours.
I own the Aprilia 2020 tested them all recently too on my channel. It’s all about what makes YOU smile. They are all so good these days.
Got the 2020 Factory as well. I'll see how I like it in a few years' time, but at the moment, I am over the moon with it. It's just so awesome and the sound cannot be beat.
It’s a shame Aprillia don’t have such a great dealer network, my nearest is essentially a Piaggio scooter shop and when I enquired about a test ride in 2018 they just shrugged. Both great bikes though!
I have to agree with you about dealers especially with the master cylinder recall on the 2017 Tuono that I owned and a swing arm recall on a V2 Tuono which took nearly a year to source.
Love the sound and the bike(s) when "on song" though!
There working on it
I don't have a official dealer anywhere close but there's a motorcycle shop that's specialized in Italian motorcycles and they are extremely knowledgeable. Maybe you can find something like that.
When you were stood in that layby doing the flypasts on each bike......
Aprilia,....offbeat V4 booming throaty throb,..sounds like an RC30 on steroids,...absolutely epic!!!
BMW.....errr..Is this a 600 Bandit coming???....dull boring ordinary in line 4 !!
Aprilia wins on “ specialness” 😬👍😂😂.
I'm curious if these guys got blown by BMW? Aprilla RSV4 Factory is the PERFECT moto!
On my 3rd Aprilia since 2000 (V twins and V4), other bikes in between. Something about them as a desirable machine that ticks all the boxes. These days try to buy bikes with my heart and not my head.
That RSV4 and the R1 are the best sounding bikes out there. The Ducati V4 sounds pretty damn good too!
Conclusion: BMW it's made for the roads, Aprilia for the tracks.
I agree with your verdict... GIVEN the keys, Aprilia every time. If it was my actual money it wouldn't be a straight forward choice. I think I would still go with the Aprilia but I'd be nervous.
Only the aprilia look and sound are enough to choose this motorcycle over another Japanese or BMW
Aprilia all the way at 16 and a half grand for a 2019 I’m getting one 😎👍
I have a -17 S1000rr and best rider m8 have a Rsv4 RF -17. We usually swap bikes. I really want it to be easy beamer, but I’l say my next will prob be an Aprilia :-). More agile, more under the rider and more fine control!
Great video Chops (& Greg). You guys are onto a winning format by working together. Brilliant viewing. Looking forward to a lot more content from you two. You just seem to hit the spot on reviewing as genuine bike fans.👌 Cheers from Melbourne.
Thanks very much Craig 👍
I've got that APE - sensational bike that makes me feel special, brilliant review
Lots of cheap looking plastic on the BMW and the yoke just looks awful!😫
bmw seat ‘painful’ after 15 minutes...but it scores higher than the Aprilia on comfort...well that makes sense then 🙄
Let’s just take a minute to take that in the Aprilia is basically a 12 year old design amazing machine also any Aprilia main dealer will sell u a brand new rsv4 factory for £20k
It’s what stirs your emotion that wins! ....APRILIA V4 🥰
I have an 19 RSV4 but I like the look of that new bmw
Reason I would never buy an ape is there dealer network sucks!! I’ve also heard of them denying a lot of warranty claims..
You won’t get that with a bmw that’s for sure
Sorry boys, Aprilia put a great bike together then have the audacity to give it those dreadful colours. A shame really
All I see is two old men accelerating and braking on a straight road, obviously all that's needed to do a hyper bike review.
Aprilia has so many more expensive technical issues over time that it’s not worth owning it. Better go with bmw.
£22,400 for the best sound system ever made..... Bargain!!!!
My mt10 would disagree on that one 😉
Aprilia all the way for me Sirs!👍🏻For a 20 year old design, it has the best arse out there!
I’m currently looking at the bmw but I must admit it sounds awful next to that Aprillia
I think it's quite interesting that BMW claim the bike has 207bhp and that aprilia claim the RSV has 217bhp yet the when 44t dyno'd them the BMW had more peak power and beasted all the others in the midrange. Either BMW are being modest with their figures or more likely I expect that all the others are overstating their power figure.
Get new microphones guys....can’t even here you during the seated sessions.
Road riding, depends what your wallet says.
I kinda like the way the BMW is quite er and you don't hear it over 50mph but at that stage on most bikes the wind noise starts to crowd all other noises out anyway so its not such a big deal. Also for resale I feel the BMW would sell more readily here in Ireland than any Aprilia. Delighted with my new S1000RR m package so far and not one fault or recall with 2,500km up on it now.
Brilliant as always guys. The two of you have great cemetery and are very entertaining. Not my genre of motorcycle but I do like looking. Bike porn.....😃
Thanks matey 👍👍 always a worry when you try something new but feedback has been good with these 😎
@@LambChopRides you 2 complement each other well. Always a risk bringing someone else onto your "show" channel" but it works. Oh nearly forgot, got me stickers. Very nice. Oh by the way why does he keep calling you John? Lol 😆 Everyone knows your name is Lambchops!!
Which one would you get? 2021 S1KRR or 2021 RSV4?
I must say as an owner of a 2020 BMW s1000rr Msport with stage2 BT moto tune and mods, the bike has plenty or character. The bike is a ruthless killer. Insane power and the lack of weight is confusing. You feel like it should have R6 power, but no, well over 200. It's an insane beast of a machine with the highest level of refinement. She's an absolute savage!!! I feel like it's underrated at this point.
Having owned a BMW S1000rr and now a 2019 Aprillia Tuono I can say that these comments and statements are spot on. It’s about how the 2 brands go to market. I absolutely loved my BMW it was faultless and was so easy to ride. Makes a crap rider good! However, due to city commuting etc I want a more upright position. The aprillia on the other hand has character the BMW didn’t. But that’s good and bad. But that sound when you twist the throttle makes you feel like a kid in a candy store. So each to the own they are both great bikes.
Thanks Damien 👍
@@LambChopRides the price of the two bikes was brought up quite a few time's. Do a video of a new bike, half the price and compare that in the same points structure - bet it wouldn't get half the point's = you pay a lot more for marginal gains the closer to the edge you get!!!
@@prothewful yes very good point Matthew 👍
@@prothewful Yes but no one ever pays retail! I got my Tuono on sale $$$ way below list and they also had a promotion to throw in Akro pipe and Race ECU tuning for free worth about $3000 AUD. To be honest the factory model is great but you pay a lot for not a huge amount of gains I agree Matthew. However the base model is cheaper than the M model of the BMW and so the choice is once again how much bling do you want. Both base bikes are awesome if you have the spare cash then spec it up. Lets be honest forged wheels... None of us a really good enough riders to ever really notice the difference!
@@LambChopRides No problem mate I think this is the most honest review I have seen. However, I do like Neevesy from MCN as well as he is pretty spot on with his assessments as well.
I wonder, What is the camera used in filming this interview?
Nice review - as soon as my lotto numbers come up I'm off to the Aprilia dealer :)) That sound - OMG :))
Yeah I’ve always wanted the rsv4 my bmw fan boy days are dwindling.
What a pair of belters, bikes weren't bad either! 😂 Wouldn't kick either out of my garage but think the RSV4 has the edge for me 🤗
Thanks Griz 👍👍
It's a choice between the Teutonic quest for engineering perfection and Italian style and panache.
Given that I'm very secure in my heterosexuality, I purchased the BMW S1000RR M a year ago. The Italian bling factor doesn't mean as much to me because I care infinitely more about what it does for me vs. others (especially when parked). I now have almost 10,000 miles on it, both street and track. It was exceeded my high expectations.
But the RSV4 is a great bike and would have been worth more consideration had I fit on it better. I'm 6'2" with old knees and I just found the Ape a bit too crunchy. The warranty and dealer network of BMW are first class in the US. Finally the BMW electronics (Bluetooth integration, performance metrics app, etc.) are brilliant.
These guys have the best job in the world. Better than the Dallas cheerleader team gyno!!
Carbon wheels = telepathic.
Yes, I agree. I have a pair and I just can't believe it. It's impossible to market because you need to try it to realise it.
There is nothing else that really compares to the feeling an Aprilia offers. Can't put a price on that.
I think the reason why I’d rather have the liter bike over the 600 doesn’t come down to the power. It cones down to the package. I want auto blipper, I want all of the more advanced electronics and creature comforts of the liter bikes these days but in a 600 package. I wouldn’t mind paying liter bike base package money for a full electronics packaged 600. You guys were spot on about not needing all that power, and you’re correct. The power isn’t the main reason people are buying these things.
I just bought 2021 black edition BMW s1000rr. I can't wait to pick it up in a few weeks. I traded my 2016 BMW in which I loved.
Would love the Aprillia with the BMWs dash and led lights
I swear 🙏 the aprilia for me !!! 💯
Very close.But Aprilia just piped it.
Brilliant review as always 👍
aprilla is good but it has too manny light in front
The Aprilia service is a lot more than bmw
From my perspective, both suppliers have done a really nice job, but with different conceptions. The BMW is designed for road use and frequent race track use. The Aprilia is designed for race track use but can be used on roads either.
If you consider that both bikes might be used about 80% in road use, there is a clear winner:
The BMW S1000 RR M-Package.
She is nicer and more comfortably to drive on the road. The seat position is better and less exhausting. The motor has more midrange power. And the BMW is less loud than the Aprilia and you don't risk so much to disturb other people.
For motorcycle enthusiasts, the Aprilia might offer more flair and a much nicer V4 sound to the owner. But practically the BMW takes a big win on the road.
@ubu 9 Off course.... cheap plastic like the carbon rims, right? From my perspective you've got something wrong here. Plastic is saving weight compared to metal. Guess what, which bike has only 193 kg? The BMW.
So, what's the advantage of the carbon parts of the Aprilia, hmm?
And please remind the following: If BMW would choose to enlarge the motor to 1100 ccm like Ducati and Aprilia, the BMW would have 227 HP and 131 Nm of torque and both of the Italian bikes would only see the BMW from behind. Not bad for a 5.000 $ looking Chinese bike, isn't it?
By the way: the Chinese have copied the iconic design of the BMW, not vice versa. And they simple did it because in China the assistant is always trying to copy the real master to honor his capacity in creation.
Where's the Chinese Aprilia RSV4 copy???
BMW more mid-range than Aprilia? No sir. Not accurate. The torque band starts lower on the V4. They always do vs in-line 4s as the latter requires revving much higher. The V4 will pull out of corners with greater immediacy. The M1000RR is north of €30K or $32K and doesn't come with Öhlins full suspension (steering dampener, front forks and rear suspension) and Brembo brake calipers.
The newer S1000RRs and M1000RR come with lower spec Marzocchi suspension, cheaply painted blue rear sets (not even Gilles Tooling as in older HP4), and Hayes (American made) brake calipers with the BMW branding.
Not to mention two other things. 1) The graphics package looks cheap.
2) BMW on the world stage in racing series like World SBK are failures. They haven't won anything like their rival companies (KTM, Ducati and Aprilia in MotoGP), Aprilia's 4 WSBK constructors titles. Pride of ownership is important. I like to know the bike I have has a rich, winning pedigree.
BMW needs Apple car play and then.........lol
Rsv 4 for me, in 10 years it will be a classic and still give you the wow factor 🤩
I don't know about that, a 10 year old RSV4 costs about the same now as a 10 year old S1000RR so I'd say they both have the same sort of "classic potential".
Aprilias just aren't Ducatis in that sense, as much as some of their fans would like to think so, as something like a 1198 costs quite a bit more than those other two today, especially if it's one of the higher spec/limited edition ones.
Agreed Sierra Nevada. Nothing compares to Aprilia. Ride one and everything else just seems...less than.
Agree to Sierra Nevada also. For me the sound and the feeling of the Aprilia is just amazing, pure joy.
No other bike offers the accomplished peace of soul (Not even a Panigale) 💘
License plate huge size is ridiculous.
LOLOLLLL quality: "im gonna give the bmw a 6.5".... nice working with bmw while it lasted... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 love it
BMW shakes like crazy past 7k rpm. Looks good but does nothing best
What bike are you riding? Tire out of balance maybe?
All these new super sports bikes and super nakeds are so good compared to the bikes from 10 years ago, you end up picking nits on comparison reviews. Both bikes are brilliant.
No one could have any quibbles if either of these dropped down the chimney by Santa
Chopsy lad this review. Set up reminds of the 44 teeth lads great review
I was thinking the same thing another fun channel to. 👍
Where was that opening shot of the Aprillia by the water shot? Looks picturesque. Top vid Chops (and pal!)
aprilia is a piece of motorcycling art the beemer is a piece of corporate machinery right down to the nob head msport badge ! for that alone i couldn't own one ! great Vid lads !!
Throw the man on a Bren tuned S1000rr and he will give it a 10
UK bikes dont have the midrange issues US bikes have, unless you're changing the exhaust to suit really dont think it would do much
Chops,
We all know you'd take the aprilia!
I’ll pay for the smiles of that aprilia soundtrack all day long 🔥👍🏼
Dave I can honestly say mate after riding bikes for years.. That sound is the bomb! And I had an R1 with crossplane crank and it is nothing compared to the Aprillia!
Plastic shave the price a bit.
RSV4 is just too expensive and all that carbon is nice but what if you just dropped it while cleaning it etc. I am getting the BMW M package in January. One of the reasons is that the surfaces are not too precious (unlike my Triumph's) and for that reason I feel I will enjoy it more because I don't have to worry about it too much.
Excellent match up and helped me kill 40 minutes at work on a VERY boring night-shift.
Thanks Bill 👍
FANTAstic review, a couple of Europe’s finest in a Japanese themed garden.
Really enjoyed this - love the format, essence of 44t 🙂👍
The winner is the one that has the fewest problem and less expense 15yrs down the road
It’s not inconceivable that both these bike will be unusable by then due to environmental concerns and “ green” taxation
I like Gregory, but he is a Ducati lover. For the money there is no comparison. Bmw!
The aprilla rr is 1000cc not 1100 . Sorry just thought I’d throw that in 🙄
Yes you are correct Mark 👍👍
Lamb Chop Rides sorry pal don’t want to come across as being pedantic 🙈
Rsv4 the best
To BMW S1000RR and Aprilia RSV4 I will have own you someday. That's a promise from be, never to be broken.
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I had the rsv4 2021 1100 and I really couldn't wait to get rid of it - Yes its exciting but its th most impractical bike I have ever owned and the worst fit for some one who wants to ride 2-3 days of the week.
i couldn't bare the heat it decimates from its vents and most of my leather shoes were melted.
The BMW is far more linear and less exciting than the aprilia, and if i had to pick one only for track days i would stick to the rsv4 - but for anything else than racing and riding hard, the bmw is a better companion for me.
Wished that was the same in India too, Aprilia is almost 10 lac more expensive than the BMW. With absolutely shit dealership experience.
I love both these bikes but it's too much power for the road and not to mention the price and maintenance costs. Love my ZX6-R but I am thinking about switching to GSX-R 750 as it has better ergonomics and more than enough power for the roads.
great chat! got me looking at the RSV4
All big bikes have a flat spot at 5000 rpm coz that is where the MOT tests the emissions, its always been that way. Heart says Aprillia, brain says BMW
Would love to see you do a review of the 2024 S1000RR on the road rather than the track.
Great review. I've had a M Sport for over a year now. Agree stock its just way to quiet. It sounds like a scooter. Full Akra system fixed that. It also vibrates a lot but a set of bar ends also reduced that by quite a considerable margin but its still there. (I had a Blade before and that was super smooth).
Carbon wheels, lithium battery, heated grips , cruise , electronic Suspension, German engineering, class leading dash
Dream bike... guys. The RSV4 has something magical and amazing on it.
BMW for me, based upon day to day riding. The Aprillia is too focussed, I believe.
Good review John, rsv4 would be my choice for a sportsbike and at 17k which a few will be next year it’s not a bad buy
Thanks buddy 👍
Sometimes i love you. You yes. Two Nuts Messi Shahara. Means Dust In De. Now Vbi
Nice one chaps. V4 do sound lush.. 👍👍👍
Great vid. Really enjoyed it. It's the Aprilia all day long for me. It's exotic & got bags of character & I know I'd get a buzz every time I opened the garage. Although the BMW's probably the better bike in a practical sense, it's just a bit souless in comparison imo.
i havent ridden the bmw but i know its not an 8 on performance. it is a 10.