Resident Evil 7 - A New Standard In Horror
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2024
- *Spoiler Warning For RE7 And Outlast 2!*
If you are going to play one horror game this year, play Resident Evil 7. In every aspect where Outlast 2 falls short, Resident Evil 7 excels. Please enjoy this Talk Gaming Extra on RE7 and Outlast 2!
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My main gripe with Outlast is that it has amazing environments and graphicsb but the majority of the game is spent with the night vision filter on and you cant appreciate how beautiful the game is
Go Tell Aunt Rhody fits in perfectly because it has that “childhood” vibe, the thought of being at my grandma’s in the village pops up in my mind every time i hear it.
So that’s more of a psychological horror approach they did by using this particular song.
Btw i really liked that you used it at the end even though you didn’t want to because of copyright stuff during the video
Outlast 2 was extremely boring for me.. the first one was certainly more entertaining
I actually loved the school scenes in outlast wayyyyyy more than the junge/forest scenes..
As always, excellent dissection and discussion. Found your channel with you Witcher 3 analysis and have watched every video since. Keep up the great work!
A bit late to the party, but I can explain the choice of song for RE7. There is a NPR podcast called Music Respawn that interviews composers for video games, which they did with the creative mind behind this rendition of "Go Tell Aunt Rhody". The reason they chose this song is because the melody is well known in English and in Japanese, where it is known as "Musunde Hiraite". In both cases, it is a children's song that has been re-purposed into a more disturbing version (though the original English version is pretty dark itself).
please send link to original english version and song can't find it
Luke, I’ve been watching video game analysis videos on TH-cam for a while. Just wanted to tell you that yours are simply the best, you take your opinion and not only give it but really do find the sweet spot of being biased on things you like and being balanced with things you don’t like but are subjectively bad. The research, the editing, I mean even the script is well written. Super awesome man, I feel like I’m getting away with something watching these for free with an ad, I’m donating to a patron if you have one, keep being awesome man, looking forward to all your new videos.
In the level with spider Marguerite, I was actually down to just my pocket knife and I was able to defeat her. But I made sure I could get to spots where she had no chance to corner me
I did that in madhouse mode lmao
@@carolusrex5213 I'm too chicken for madhouse mode, heh
Much better than last of us. Glad you started to include more of your opinions, thoughts, and analyses on this like the original witcher 3 video (why I subbed)
paulTHEboss he was talking about how he reviews games
I'm still waiting for P.T. or Alison Road maybe even Death Stranding
Dark Shadows bruh P.T. Got cancelled
Big fan of yours keep up the good content! Highest quality reviews on YT imo.
+OBS Infodesk thank you so much! I'll try to keep it coming!
I love your definition of Outlast 2 as a chore. You're stuck in that shit, constantly anxious, the boss ""fights"" make you sweat, cry. You, exactly like the main character, only want to get it over with, get the fuck outta there. It's almost always no fun; You are not just going around shooting monsters with shotguns. It is actually, ironically, the very reason I love it and it works for me, if not for a big audience of players just wanting to enjoy themselves.
It's the only videogame that actually made me feel the lost of hope, the despair, the HORROR, especially in the Permadeath difficulty.
Still, I agree on many of your points, there is a lot they could have done different, but as someone who doesn't play many videogames, that was an experience I'll never forget.
Now being the largest wuss in the Southern Hemisphere, I don't get to experience horror games, but this was a fun insight with good points, so it's win/win in my book 👍🏻
the good thing about re7 too with being able to defend yourself is you can easily run and hide too! if you sprint away from enemies the humans will give up quickly and the molded are easy to outrun.
Wait why was there a flash of the room at the end is that a hint to your next video or something?
You should really try playing Outlast and Outlast: Whistleblower. I thought that they were much more enjoyable than Outlast 2 and worked much better as games, especially Whistleblower. That said, Resident Evil 7 is still by far the best horror game I've ever played.
Have you played the Amnesia games yet?
@@wakkjobbwizard Nope, still haven't, though I should definitely get to those, they look great. I have played a lot more horror games by now though for sure
I only ever played this in VR . Truly horrifying.
Whats the song that plays at the end
What are your thoughts on The Evil Within and the upcoming Evil Within 2?
Evil within is my favorite horror game
The ONLY game I’ve ever played until I got 100% of the trophies on.
A truly great game, but not on the level of The Last Of Us. I’ve been playing video games since PONG (yes I’m that old), so I know what I’m talking about.
When you talked about RE7's problem with the uncanny valley following thought crossed my mind: The animation itself looks believable, however, since it was developed in Japan, they probably used Japanese actors for the motion capture. Putting Japanese mimic and gesture, as well as certain behaviours on Caucasian people looks really off, as if they put on an act… I think that's what's the biggest issue concerning the uncanny problem.
u did some great job so i give sub 2 u.
Well TBH in a world like outlast 2’s I am sure I would just run like my ass was on fire.
Not being able to at least attempt self defense takes you out of the immersive atmosphere, As you mentioned when you were talking about how "I would have hit that guy" Etc. Etc. Fuck, even amnesia way back when let you stun monsters with a chair.
11:23 Skyrim mods?
exactly what I was thinking!
I'm not a particular fan of these hide & seek horror games. True that you can defend yourself in RE7 but weapons feel way too underpowered. Silent Hill and the older RE game (pre-RE4) perfectly had it balanced.
Everything beats Outlast 2...
RE7 is a good survival horror but it doesn't feel like a Resident Evil. I've been playing RE since 99. I was 7 years old when I first played it, believe it or not. This game didn't look or played like a Resident Evil and that was really disappointing. RE6 was also a completely different game and RE5 for the most part too. I still believe RE Revelations 1 and 2 are the true successors to RE4.
thats i think the main reason why i never touched RE7 ... i couldn't even really get through a walkthrough of it. maybe im just not into those types of horror games (RE7 i mean), i love RE, but idk the last 2 games have been.... underwhelming AS RE GAMES. RE7 clearly is a good game, but... yeah.. lol RE7 just wasn't my cup of tea
KillMyVocals u haven’t even played RE7 so how would u know unless u equate spoiling the game by watching on YT as a valid first hand experience
Sure, but RE stopped being RE when 4 rolled around. They removed the isometric like cameras and placed it as a over the shoulder style. So saying RE 7 stopped being RE is not really a good argument.
I'll agree it's not the traditional RE games that we've had before. But RE7 is definitely good in its own rights. And did what it was meant to. A return to horror that the past couple RE has been missing. It's immersive, horrifying, and keeps you on your feet with the dark areas (which sets up for RE2 remake). I myself will say that I've scorned RE7 when I saw the trailer along with some of the play through and said that it's another failure until playing. RE7>RE6/5.
Kou Vue I feel like the re7 is a new take on re for newer people but I think re in fp would be more scary
It's very simple, it's scary and it's not repetitive.
The only thing that was scary for me was how far in the uncanny valley your girlfriend was... and how bad her hair looked.
And it's all going to be squandered by the ridiculous transylvanian-esque, werewolf, gothic horror abomination that is RE 8
Just being able to fight back is inherently less scary to me. If it's like Resident Evil 2, fighting back isn't just something you can do. It's a conscious decision you have to make. This decision in of itself is what's scary about RE2, because the more you fight back the progressively weaker and weaker you get because you have highly limited resources.
This is part of my major complaints with The Evil Within. It's just got tense themes and some scary moments, but that dread of running out of ammo or health or otherwise not being able to fight back anymore because you messed up earlier is just not there, period. Unfortunately, people spoiled by modern "optimized," "smoother," games with "better UI and controls" have to ruin that instead of dealing with the consequences of their actions by lowering the standard of the game by making resources much more plentiful and having you always have more then enough you need and being able to instantly react to, aim at, attack, and fight back against something instead of having to worry about your positioning and the time it would take to fight back against something and being caught off guard by something and so many other cool and fun elements that are completely abandoned by "improving" upon the formula in those ways.
RE7 fixes a lot of the problems in The Evil Within in those ways. There's more limited resources, the combat and UI management feels slower and clunkier (and this is a good thing), but I do actually think all the combat being highly scripted does ruin the experience some. Of course, in RE2 every enemy was pre-placed, not randomly generated at all, so you could memorize them and work around them and such. However the gimmicky aspect of what is effectively the same thing in RE2 in RE7 I feel like is unnecessary and pointless and trying too hard to include these so they're more shocking and more reminiscent of actiony set pieces which ruins the horror for me. It also removes most of the most important aspects that made RE2 so fucking scary, that I had already mentioned: The choice of fighting back. Most encounters in RE7 do not end unless you successfully fend them off (This is actually also a problem in RE4 and why I don't think it's as scary as 2). You can't just say "fuck it" and leave streaming urine and poo down your pantlegs as you do so most of the time. This helped out RE2 so much, because if you had to come back through that area you had to risk encountering them again. In the RE1 remake they added Crimson Heads which further cemented this idea that fighting back is something you need to make very conscious decisions about. This decision is ultimately what makes any of the good RE games scary. The dread that you might regret it later. The crazed and panicked motions of aiming the gun and firing. Seeing that you're using so many bullets on a single zombie and they just keep slowly shuffling toward you, and then when they do die it's horribly dissatisfying by just casually and softly falling over limp adding to the dread that fighting these things may not be worth it. You don't actually have that in RE7 (and, to an extent, RE4 too).
You also seem to have this notion that nobody can possibly find the horror elements themselves in a game to be gamey and fun. I would not say Outlast 2 is better than the first one, but Outlast 2 is still a fun game for this reason. The horror aspect is the game and you fundamentally don't understand that. It's not that the game that is bad or doesn't let you play a game, you just don't find the elements that make it a game fun. Outlast uses far more gore and other horror tropes, but you didn't hear anybody complain about it there because the horror as a game was delivered so flawlessly that you didn't really notice the game manipulating you in that way. In Outlast 2 it's not delivered so flawlessly. It is not a good sequel, but it's not that much of a lower quality game overall as you are suggesting. The problem with people complaining about getting lost in Outlast 2 and all the "trial-and-error" stuff in it is that is a pretty subjective experience. A lot of people did not have those problems or they were very infrequent for others.
Also, Outlast 2 at the bare minimum had a pretty mixed reception. You are outright lying when you say things like most people didn't like it.
I think it comes down to two things. 1) it's a game and people have varing levels of intrest or investment in horror so to maximize their audience and playablilty, naturally companies will adjust things for light players or beginner players so they can enjoy it like guaranteeing a flashlight or weapons. 2) this is why adjustable difficulty exists, so more hardcore horror gamers can have the restricted ammo and weapons, greater weakness, stronger enemies that intensify the horror. At the end of the day you have to ask yourself is it really worth knocking on a game that's more widely accessible just because it's adapted and changed to better fit an entry level player. Games are meant to be enjoyed and wider accessibility for enjoyment isn't bad. (Also the RE7 DLC Ethan Must Die is everything you could ask for and I think the fighting in both RE2 and The Evil Within, are actually quite similar)
@@DAmaterasa Ultimately what you are talking about is addressing a minor thing I said and is not really about the rest of my post. While I can certainly agree with the position of getting a bigger more expanded audience, I think generally most genres in video games are just not widely accessible and to try and force that lowers the quality of the game IMO by trying to make it something it's not (more like an action game, or more casual, or whatever). I am not saying RE7 or RE4 are bad games because of this one problem, they certainly have way way more good than bad to them (although I am saying The Evil Within is a bad game, but that's just my opinion).
@Templarfreak I understood your post: you think that a horror game where fighting back is a necessity or is made too easy for the player makes for a less fun game and that the pure essence of horror can be fun. Those are your opinions and I shouldn't fight them, I was simply explaining the rationale for why survival horror games have changed the way that they have (emphasizing the "survival" versus the "horror") and that I don't think these changes are bad ones and that more hardcore horror hasn't been lost.
(It's great that you like the Resident Evil games, The Evil Within was my first horror game experience and I would consider it a good foyer because I grew up with First Person Shooters)
@Templarfreak I've thought on this for a while now, and though I still think that wider accessibility in games is a good thing I can appreciate why genre savys like you want games to stick to their guns: because it can lead to poorer quality or even censorship, and nobody wants that. So thank you, I understand things a little better now
Being scared is not knowing, when your told this is scary and you should be scared is when the movie or game becomes not scary. Scary is not knowing being scared is not knowing
But why was outlast 1 entertaining and not 2, in regards to the “not fighting back aspect”? You keep stating that it’s a big downfall to the game but they did that with 1 as well and it worked.
The first Outlast was set in a huge asylum, you could hide in vents and in lockers as well as let the lunatics deal with each other. Outlast 2 really didnt add much, it was more empty in a way. They should have added new elements, maybe defense items thatvcould let you fight off enemies and outlast 2 used the nightvision way too much
I thought this was lauding RE7, but all I kept hearing about was how bad Outlast 2 was. Didn't realize that was the low bar to beat.
Alien isolation is the definition of survival horror everything else is just, Meh that was kinda fun....once...
Man you really don’t like outlast 😂😂
Bio Hazard 7 was a masterpiece that killed itself.
The last part of the game AND the story turned out os shallow, so stupid, and so boring.
But the whole first and a half game, is a jewel.
I would say the first 2/3rd is damn near perfect the final act was certainly weaker but still fun
Gotta say luke im a lil disappointed in this one. Both are good games for what theyre goin and both fall short as well. I really dont know why you chose to compare the two instead of just review them individually. Resident evil 7 is a great game but im sick of people ignoring the blatant flaws and dumb narrative beats in the game. And i really expected you to hit all those instead you just repeated why its clearly better than a game i dont think anyone thought it was really trying to compete with. I like both games but i came here to hear the critique for resi 7.
Bruh exactly what I was thinking like this wasn’t even a review of RE7 this was a comparison between RE7 and Outlast 2. Plus half of his long reviews are just plot summaries. This is what keeps Luke from being a top tier critic imo.
@@wakkjobbwizard a lil bit man. Hes got some pretty unique and good takes on some games, but sometimes he talks to much on a subject and other times he like completely skips over other subjects maybe. But either way something pessismistic in me just wanted to hear someone actually complain about resi 7 for once. I loved the game, but theres a hefty handful of stuff thats lame, and im just surprised how i never hear anything but 10/10 from people.
@@Magnumscrotus totally agree. Personally I definitely thought the later bits of the story in RE7 were a bit weaker. Still a really solid game though.
@@wakkjobbwizard same all the way up to margerite is awesome, but the game barely feels connected to resident evil, and just has some down right silly shit in it which rRE always had but it doesnt work as hell with the hyper real tone in 7. And the decision to choose between helping your wife or the other girl you just met is one of the dumbest things ive ever seen in a game and it doesnt even affect the story at all.
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Else, you'll end up with other peoples creations. And they don't have always your best interest on their mind.
Often they have their own interest on their mind.
Well duh. It obviously beats outlast 2. I wonder why I subbed to this channel in first place.
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Just because a game is newer, doesn’t mean it’s better. This case, it is, don’t use it as an anecdote for everything else. Check out Madden 19 vs Madden 2K5 for an extreme case lol.
Resident Evil isn’t great though
Alien Isolation is better
For me personally, RE 7 was disappointing. I didn't like the story, and the family was more humorous then anything. I was hoping for subtle yet creepy, instead it was a gore fest, (which doesn't scare me).
No game is really scary Re 7 is survival horror, not that scary but it is meant to make you feel weak until you get strong enough to kill enemies with ease. I never got why people consider resident evil a horrot series, it has some moments but no entirely
RE7 was lame as fuck
Wtf, why couldn't you warn about spoilers about Outlast 2. You gave away a big twist in that when you didn't talk about the twist in RE7...
First sentence in the desciption...