I did not think I could have more respect for Woolsey but you just told me he did this localization on a 30 day deadline. I will hear NO disrespect on this man's name ever for the rest of time holy shit what a legend
Spoony is not a bad or weird translation. Look up the word "spoony" it's old timey slang that essentially means overly emotional. Telleh is supposed to be practically ancient, it would make sense he would use old timey slang. And Edward is in fact, a spoony bard.
@@TheReturnersHideout Fair. But everybody points to that as a example of Woosley doing bad translation, and perhaps it was, I don't know what world he translated to get that. But with localization in mind, it makes sense and lots of videos call it out as nonsense, when it's not. it's a mission I'm on. It's a calling.
My fan theory for the game is that Kefka is Bahram, and lost most his memory/mind/etc during the multitude of magicite experiments... the timeline matches up, but moreover it helps explain why Shadow is almost always near Kefka during parts of the story, he's keeping an eye on him. Shadow is the one who tries to stop Kefka on the floating continent, and after Kefka finally dies Shadow knows his job is done so he goes to rest on the collapsing tower.
since Celes was infused, and she's 18 yo, the time gap between Clyde's turning to Shadow and the game play is plausible. Baram becoming Kefka as a failure and thereafter Celes meets the surgery room...
@@mestrealvarensisoh dude that's pretty disturbing , then that means celes is possibly a clone of Baram. She has similar hair color, but just imagine that Baram was infused with magicite first. Then they cloned him, that's why celes has inherent magic and runs knight capabilities because it's in her genes. They may have even used Shiva as a surrogate. And cid over watched it, which would explain why he considered himself her grandfather
Barams age and kefkas age do not match. They have different colored eyes. And did you forget Baram only has one eye and kefka had two? This theory is full of more holes than swiss cheese.
I think Woolsey did a great job at localization. Certain things were altered, usually to conform to NOA censorship standards, and I think that he did the best that he could given the short deadline, and the ever present problem of cutting down the script to still fit on the cartridge when converted to English which requires more space to say the same things. The man is a legend. People often cite Secret of Mana as an example of bad translation, but with the short time given and the cartridge space limitations (the game was originally being developed for CD and had to be heavily cut down to fit on a cartridge when that fell through, and you can definitely feel that later in the game where it is obvious things had to be rushed and condensed, and then the localization itself had to undergo a similar process) it is a miracle that we got what we did. Sure, he took some liberties, but I quite enjoyed them. It's funny how Frog from Chrono Trigger talks in a "ye olde" type of way even though no one else from the same time period talks that way. If you notice, in the flashbacks of when he was still human he talked like everyone else. It makes me wonder then if his manner of speaking, though an artifact of the localization at the end of the day, was caused by the curse that turned him into a frog, or if it is something he picked up for reasons unknown. It helps him stand out more distinctly in a game where so much is conveyed through text and limited animations, so I don't think taking liberties like that is always a bad thing, especially when in English the process of giving a character a different tone or manner of speaking is different than in other languages. That's one reason I prefer the original SNES script. Here's to you, Woolsey, and all of your immortal Woolseyisms.
Also, I imagine the whole Sim City idea could work for a kind of pseudo-sequel that takes place after the ending and the goal is to rebuild the world to its former glory and beyond. Although magic has disappeared from the world, there would still be powerful beasts to make things difficult. It could be a fun game, but knowing how many mobile games there are about building cities or whatever that are marred by ridiculously long real time waiting that you have to pay real money if you want to speed up, only being able to work on one structure at a time unless you pay more money, and other microtransactions, paired with the knowledge that Square Enix is not afraid to make Final Fantasy mobile games built around popular micro transaction systems like real time waiting and gacha mechanics, and suddenly this idea that sounds like it could have been fun if it was made in the '90s or '00s suddenly sounds less appealing
I think one thing he was criticized for was a liberal use of the “American-isms” that took many non-Americans out of the game. It’s something that bothered me as a kid but not as an adult. “Way to go!” Frog has certain old Japanese grammar as well, so that’s a good translation from Ted.
Subscribed! Really interesting videos. I'm 34, and I first played FF6 as a 7 or 8-year old. At the time, I didn't have the guts to get through Kefka's tower and face him. Years passed and I never sought to beat Kefka once and for all. It became a game "forgotten in the mists of time". But the characters always stuck with me... This morning Asia time, I finally finished FF6! It's been my "LOTR before I knew what LOTR was", and I'm really happy to see a vibrant community including creators like you The Returners' Hideout still talking about this masterpiece.
It's amazing how fantastic games can be made with so few people. It shows that most games don't NEED 3000 devs, photo realistic graphics, and 100% voice acting to be good.
When I read those facts I had the same thought. This is one of the best games I’ve ever played and a handful of people made it. It’s astounding to me! Thank you for commenting!
And if FF6 was released today, it would be less popular than Nickelback. This is the evolution of the industry, not some grand observation on complexity. EVERY game had only a handful of devs and development time back then. And nowadays, every Triple A game is made by 3000 people over 5 years. That includes Square's games. "You don't need photo realistic graphics and quality voice acting, you just need the rose tinted nostalgia goggles I have for a game I played in my childhood" There, I fixed that typo for you. Some indie games hit it big with unique and quality gimmicks. FF6 would not, because it doesn't offer anything unique. It didn't at the time of its release either. If anything it was regressive, not featuring a superboss after 5 introduced them and how it devolved into spamming ultima and there being no meaningful distinction between characters (besides Gau and the sasquatch, which were distinct but not in a good way). The only thing FF6 would get is *TORCHED* for how buggy it was, and rightfully so. People whine about patches nowadays, but it beats paying $80 for a game and 30 years later it still nukes your saves if Relm uses her custom command. I'm sure the rose tinted glasses are already being donned, so go ahead and google "Final Fantasy 6 bugs". Check the wiki. There's a shitload of them.
@Veladus You can fix bugs and balance the gameplay WITHOUT the photorealistic graphics, voice acting, or a massive budget. Every complaint you can (rightfully) make against FF6 is completely unrelated to my original post no nostalgia goggles needed.
@Veladus but.. FF6 DID release recently and sold really well in the form of a pixel remaster. And to say something would sell as well as Nickelback, don’t let your own opinion of something flaw the facts, they still sell far above average sales despite people saying they hate them. Proof is in numbers (take a peek at their Spotify streams real quick). I can understand rose tinted glasses can get in the way, 100%. But to call it regressive because it didn’t have a featured enemy that the last game had is irresponsible at best. It actually did have a super boss that got cut. Yes it’s no secret to anyone who loves or hates the game that it’s full of bugs, but please google that same phrase with any game tacked onto the end of it. Every game has bugs, it happens. You simply don’t know if it would perform well if the game was brand new - no one does, and to claim that you DO know is just impossible. You can have an opinion about probability and all that but it’s still just an opinion. Thank you for your comment! There’s no reason to get snippy with folks for having a strong opinion about something that is in opposition to your strong opinion. tl;dr - just let people have fun, friend. Life’s better that way.
We're all reminded of this from time to time, and it's always lovely. I'd say the latest example is probably Balatro with its simple graphics, made by one fellow (as his first game, no less) and currently nominated for 2024's "game of the year" in numerous gaming award presentations. There's always going to be those huge budget overproduced games made for mass audiences, but the smaller games have always served as the heart and soul of the industry.
My #1 favorite game of all time. Not just Final Fantasy game, but GAME. I spent hours on this back in the day. Hours, days, months! It was also the first game soundtrack I ever purchased, having used the included order card. I'll never forget the day it arrived and I could hear one of the discs sliding around inside the case. NIGHTMARE FUEL! Fortunately it was okay and I still have my original copy of Kefka's Domain!
I always wanted the OSTs before Spotify was a thing, I attempted to get 2 copies and got 0 lol, but all is good. FF6 is also my favorite game of all time!
I like the idea of Celes also being unstable due to Magitek poisoning. It would have given more insight into Kefka's motivations if we saw someone in the party struggling with the same symptoms.
I think part of it is her lack of empathy at first, she's really young as a general of the empire so she's actually very out of touch with her own instincts. So much so that the entire world ends before she realizes what she's lost. I've also heard you actually are playing from her perspective in world of ruin but that the reason the world seems bleak is actually because that's how celes sees the world, it's not actually how it looks.
While Ted Woolsey's work did become controversial for awhile, I think most people who grew up with the series in the SNES era now agree it's acquired something of a narm charm and, regardless of what's technically accurate, you have to tip your hat to the old son of a submariner.
@@obscured.by.clouds. The term Woolseyisms was coined to refer to script changes that not everybody appreciated when they learned about them later. It might not be entirely fair to pin that all on him since he had his marching orders and his memory limitations when dealing with the English language that is less character-efficient than Japanese.
Wow! Fantastic! One of my favorite games, and I didn't know these facts! I only knew about the terra-garbage moment, the 1 year development, and cid-airship moment. You only get this kind of content in the returner's hideout!
I always thought it was weird that after we save Cid by feeding him the good fish, we just leave him there. Man's a master engineer, surely there's something for him to do on the airship
Wow! Here I think I know everything there is to know about my favorite game and you continue to surprise me. That's some amazing information! I didn't know any of that.
FF3/6 is my favorite game of all time! I can only hope for a proper remake, that does justice to the original! That said, I wish that they had kept the feature where Strago directs the building of a town! It's have been so cool to have the characters have a base of sorts, besides the airships! And for the player to get at least some control over things such as the looks and layout of the town! As well as the people that are invited/approved to live there! Sort of like Township, in Breath of Fire 2!!! Anyhow! Great video! I'm always impressed when TH-camrs share new knowledge about my favorite game! Especially since it's been out for around 30 years! Now I need to go dig out the SNES Mini, to put some FF3/6 play time in! It's been a couple of years now!
In the live stream like a month ago, you promised me a cool city-building-related fact about FF6 and you delivered. Man I wish that ended up in the game. I love city-building mechanics in RPGS. *cough*BreathOfFire*cough*
Back in the 90s there were Square fansites that featured all sorts of different media, one of which was various character designs. I used to run a fairly popular site and it was always super cool when someone would find stuff no one else had and then send it to me so I could share it with everyone else. ❤❤
Remember when the Thamasa villagers come together to try to put out the flames, and there's this awkward pause while this random old woman runs in from offscreen to help? I wonder if that was the developers acknowledging the cut character.
That very well could be! Or maybe not acknowledging the cut, but maybe there was more dialog that was cut between Strago and the old woman! Solid point thank you for that
When I tried it in editing, because the quality of the source material is so rough (it was 360p and I upscaled it to 480), it wasn't a very clear image of Relm, unfortunately.
While that was also a favorite theory of mine, I've come to accept that he's more likely the same Gogo from FFV, who wandered in from the Interdimensional Rift after banishing himself. Kinda like how Gilgamesh does.
@@Nealend86I used to think this but a detail came to light that gogo in ff6 has no backstory meaning it's actually not the same gogo from the end of the ff5 fight. In fact, the sunken tower of walz where gogo is found may have been there for hundreds of years, and at the end of ff6 gogo drops to the first floor of Kefkas tower. In ff5 gogo is on the first floor, which is actually the last floor. Gogo enters the rift and doesn't go to ff6 they go to ff14s universe. So chronologically, ff6->5->14.
Video idea: talk about box cover art for the games and how they connect to the story. I remember as a kid going to rent a video game, y'all remember that?, and all I had to go on to pick a game was the box art and a couple pics on the back. Sometimes you get a winner sometimes you didn't. Just thought it would be a neat idea for you
It would have been pretty cool if Terra was actually Locke's rival while still being the badass magical girl that she is. Like if they shared a love interest or some treasure hunting goal.
As some one who grew up in the UseNet era back in the day it's so interesting to see the shift in Woolsey the past few years. Guy was enemy number one on alt.games.final-fantasy and even rec.arts.anime news groups. It's seems like now that all us Final Fantasy fans are turning into old folks and realizing the job that he had on his plate, what he had to do to get things done and provide for his family, we all sort of respect the man for what he was able to accomplish and do. Guy was pushing him self to 1000 for a pay check with next to impossible goals.
You’re 100% right. Early on there was a pitchfork hatred for him but it’s all flipped now and I would love it if he started a Q and A series answering the questions of us old RPG fans!
I still despise the man, just because one can understand the reasoning behind it, doesnt mean I am required to excuse his slap dash "translations". Like any villain, you can understand their motivations but that doesnt mean you handwave their actions.
Before I watch this I want to say I had to beat this game well over 45 times often to get sprites from specific scenes that just weren't readily available for flash animations I was making as a kid. I feel like I should know everything, but if I don't I will salute you.
Nope, it's officially pronounces Kate (as in the girl's name) Sith (as in the counter religion to the Jedi). We have it said out loud by the entire main cast of FF7Rebirth now. And SquareEnix themselves confirming it even before release. I've been saying Cait Sith right since 1997.
Of course I call Cait Sith “Kate Sith” lol, I just pointed out that the original pronunciation is different. We *should* also eat healthy and other virtuous things but we don’t. We’re a stubborn lot
@ very true. Need to work out more. Even when I do, I get annoyed about it eating into valuable video game time. That’s time I could be replaying the classic Final Fantasy games. Most likely, when the name was picked, someone in Japan read about the Scottish (or is it Irish?) myth, but never heard it said out loud, so they said it phonetically. Nearly 30 years later, people in the west tried to tell them the historical pronunciation, but they’d been saying Cait Sith for decades, and decided to stick with it. It’s the nature of language, it changes over time.
@BunBun299 oh 100% yes, I’m sure it’s some cultural dialect in Scotland that is hardly used anymore. It was a tidbit I saw in a strategy guide in 1997 that I held on to, that’s it lol
@@DefinitelyReagan “yes it’s actually pronounced Ket Shee - look it up it’s based off Scottish Lore” Yes the pronunciation is *exactly* what I said in the video… which was made before Rebirth came out. What did I not say, friend?
Fun facts! Love FFVI, been my favorite since I was a kid and first played it as FFIII on SNES in the 90s. Not just my all time favorite final fantasy game, but one of my top 3 games of all time.
"during the ending CG cut scene...that plays during the ending" not the ending scene that plays during the start? :P hehe, I make the same kind of embellishes in my videos sometimes too, it kind of just happens but it works. GREAT job on this video!
Because FF6 has such a balanced cast of characters and no definitive main, it makes it easy to create an OC that doesn't feel like an imposter. The only rule is, your character also can't be the main lead; they have to mesh well with the existing cast.
It's really weird because FF6 was the first FF to not have a Mr. Poofy Hair protagonist, and yet Terra's male counterpart is a straight up Mr. Poofy Hair. I'm glad they went with something a bit more specific for this game.
Bro I love your content so much and I will watch every video, but can I give a suggestion? Your videos need an intro and an outro, even short ones. Especially at the end, so many of them just end abruptly and as a longtime TH-cam watcher, it can be a little jarring. Plus at the end is when you can toss in your plugs, tell people how to buy your merch etc. Just a friendly tip from one of your biggest fans. Love the content.
Thanks so much, my friend!! You’re far too nice! I’ll definitely give it some thought, I’m still experimenting with what works and what doesn’t and I’m always open to suggestions! Thanks for commenting!
I thought the city sim was supposed to be apart of the sequel. I could be wrong since, I only heard that fact once. Nice list. Also, it did set Celes up quite well as the spy. The side conversation while going up to protect the esper, some of the dialogue the Emperor and Kefka have at the dinner and on the floating continent. It was a good story.
Here's one for ya: FF6 Moogles are blind. Cave dwelling creatures often lose their eyesight, these Moogles are always squinting. Furthermore, when Mog (or any moogle) opens his eyes in shock, you can get a good look at their very big eyes and you can see that their pupils are completely white. This means little to no light is making it to his retinas. So how are they able to walk around as though they can see? Their squinty eyes are not the only change from FF5 to FF6: they also gained that adorable pom-pom antenna. This is why Mog hates it getting touched (as noted in FF Ultimania): you're practically poking the thing he uses to see!
I always thought the nickle line was weird since.... you know Gil has no denominations as far as I know. Idk maybe it's just me but it's a weird disconnect
It’s also insanely harsh and violent when pitted up against Nintendo’s ‘family friendly’ policies at the time. Can’t show a butt on screen, but THAT? Eh it’s fine
@The Returners' Hideout lol yea, that's true too. I believe it's not true, especially when you get to know him, but it is an official in game rumor that possibly slipped through in the translation crunch.
Given that my two favourite games from this era were FFVI and ActRaiser, I can only imagine how obsessed I'd have been had the city builder remained in!
ActRaiser is such an underrated game, I absolutely love it (along with any SimCity game) and yes I would have still to this day never left my room if the city building part was implemented.
@@TheReturnersHideout I think they'd have found my dessicated corpse in my parents' basement circa 1994 had that happened. I'd have forgotten minor details like food, water, and sleep....
SimCity aspect seems neat. There's multiple RPGs over the years that have this 'rebuild the ruined town' mechanic to them, and it tends to work well, I think it could've worked well in FF6 since Strago/Relm never really get 'justice' after their initial scenes and that'd be a good way to keep them relevant.
Had to pause the vid not even 20 seconds in lol. It's not a huge deal, but the >CHARACTER< in FFVII is pronounced, Kate Sith, unless this changes in the remake. You do have a point about the creature Cait SIth though, and I can't really speak for their appearance in other FFs, but for FFVII, its Kate SIth lol (unless this changes in the remake)
Final Fantasy VI also has some extra slots for characters in it that are unused in its code. Maybe some of the artwork characters could have ended up being one of the party members. Some rom hacks even uses them to add custom playable characters to the game. The only thing from those character slots that the source actually let you know, is their names.
Fun fact - that iconic suicide attempt when you fail to save cids life? You actually can save his life. It's hard, you have to give him nothing but the best fish, but he can live,and you can visit him later too.
I've always loved ff6 it just did so much, absolutely right. The only complaint i might have is i never managed to get all of Sabin's moves. Though i did suplex the ghost train so that makes up for it a bit.
Character development for FF6 was not a flaw. Every character with the exception of Umaro and Gogo have a story arc devoted to them, even mog has a little development despite the fact he was an optional character. FF6 also gave its characters closure to their stories something no other FF does as well. It's one of the reasons why it's the most acclaimed game in the series.
Not quite. They finished way ahead of schedule, with them planning on the Floating Continent as the final dungeon, but instead of just turning it in, they decided to spend the extra time to change the original ending and expand the game further, giving us the entire World of Ruin plot!
The family is reunited, and it’s all thanks to you! Although.. I am curious as to what the dynamics of that party would be through the second half of the game in terms of battling! Thanks for watching and commenting!
Celes is also my favorite FF6 character! Then Edgar and Sabin, such great characters too! There really has not been a FF installment that has made me feel as complete as this one.
finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Terra_Branford That's where I got some of the information from, I'd have to dig deeper to find the nitty gritty, but definitely check out the Cutting Room Floor for all sorts of unreleased goodies! tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor
Re: Your wild theory about Gogo being Relm's mother, I more subscribe to the theory that Gogo is Rachel. That one's been around since the '90s, and the more you look into it, the more the pieces all fall into place.
1:18 where is Gau in the concept art? I initially thought he was the one crouching down in the lower left corner but then thought that might be male Terra's esper form
@@NAzo. lol. she' was spy cuz she infiltrated the group through nefarious means. the end. did she come through in the end? nope. she flipped and joined your group. still means she was a spy.
Celes wasn't a spy she was under posthypnotic suggestions, she's not evil. She just wanted to pretend to be and when she realizes she cares about her new friends the world ends that's why the over world song is titled "Searching For Friends" 😊
Celes being a spy would explain why an augmented magic-using general was being pushed around by common soldiers. OTOH they were making a big show of hurting her when nobody was watching, and hid her in a basement instead of putting her in a path to meet the Returners. So eh.
Ditto! FF6 is also my favorite one! And yeah, admittedly Woolsey made some, at best questionable translation choices... but son of a submariner, the entire fandom had a conniption when they "corrected" his most well known lines.
Nah, I always say GoGo is the emperor 👀 When he falls from the floating continent it looks like he lands towards the triangle island. I always told myself he either doesn't remember who he was, or he is trying to atone for everything that he had done.
As a former translator myself of RPGs (working in the Asian market), a month is an incredibly long time. I usually had at most two weeks to finish a project. Given the scope of FF6 though, I can't even imagine how grueling that must have been for him though.
Oh yes I know this, that line comes across wrong in hindsight. What I meant was, if you ever see a weirdly translated line, blame it on the fact that localization teams don’t get a long time to get it done.
at 1:50 that weird thing that you said who is this, I presume it's Mog.. or the original concept of it.. and I may be wrong.. but I count 13 characters (if we exclude Strago's old woman counterpart) and since I doubt one of the 2 World of Ruin only recruitable characters (Umaro and Gogo) is that girl behind the "male version of Terra" like you called him.. I'm pretty sure there's something else about that unknown guy in the middle and that the girl behind the dude is Terra. Oh and before anyone answer me, I know Umaro and Gogo are not the ONLY recruitable characters in the WoR, I meant recruitable for the first time possible, and yes, for those who don't know it.. you can get Mog in World of Balance..
Actually 1:17 in the bottom middle (under the old lady) looks a lot more like mog. I think the one he mentions _is_ umaro. Or maybe the imp? Though I feel like it goes moogle, Imp, chocobo (I just feel like that makes the most sense) in the bottom there, which lends itself toward the one in question being umaro and not the imp. Also I think the girl behind the center guy is celes, I feel like it looks like other art I've seen of celes especially with that sword. I wanna know who the one on the far lower right is, terra, maybe?
@@phydur3056 you're right for mog, didn't remarked it at first but it is indeed mog there, as for Celes being the one behind if you are right then the woman in far lower right corner is Terra. So if that ugly thing is not mog like I presumed it was... I guess it's Kappa the Imp or if it's Umaro, goodness gracious, a good chance they didn't made him look like that in the final game back in 1994
I do like Amano's artwork, but something I've always hated is the disconnect between the in-game sprites for character designs, the artwork, and also the in-game portraits! Locke for example, his in-game sprite has a headband like the artwork and his portrait has a full head-covering bandana. Celes, like Terra, wears a leotard with pauldrons in the sprite, but the artwork has her with a completely different outfit. She also has a headband in her sprite that's blue and goes across her whole head, but in the portrait and the artwork, it's like a little back barrette thing? Why are the designs so inconsistent, even in later versions, lol. I will say, I do prefer the sprite designs over both the portrait and the artwork, for all the FFs with this problem, cause even though I like Amano's overall artstyle, the character designs all blend into each other due to the sort of same face and hair syndrome, lol.
i like how the explanation for holy = pearl is supposedly due to keeping religious references out, when there are a ton of other games that completely ignored this rule and did things as intended. even after the guideline was lifted, we still had games that followed it for no reason (kingdom hearts, mickey's holy = pearl). we called it ted woolsey syndrome. there was another localizer in line, story escapes me of why he didn't go through with it, but he was far far far more qualified and most likely would have given us a near perfect translation back then. bummer..
Whelp, I knew about the Cait Sith thing, but that doesn't count. Also, did you skip number 6? or was the Sim City thing suppose to be #6? Because if that's the case 3/6 for me, I knew about the Sim City thing, Final Fantasy Union did a video about it. I also knew the Cid thing, and the small dev team but not all the details. honestly though, am I really that high? because number 5 is the last one you did. right?
so he actually liked the name Celesterra. however being it was too long he broke it up between two characters. also originally Character #1 (now Terra) was originally going to be given the Runic secondary ability but then scraped the idea later on giving it to a different character.
I did not think I could have more respect for Woolsey but you just told me he did this localization on a 30 day deadline.
I will hear NO disrespect on this man's name ever for the rest of time holy shit what a legend
All those early localization projects had to be done lightning quick, and yes I too had an insane amount of respect for him after I read that fact!
"every character can be the main character!" *proceeds to teach everyone ultima
yeah, Umaro really rocks with ultima
@@magnusdiridian blizzard orb on him kinda looks like it... going sideways.
Forever my favorite Final Fantasy game and easily in my top 3 JRPGs of all time.
Oh it’s the best!
Spoony is not a bad or weird translation.
Look up the word "spoony" it's old timey slang that essentially means overly emotional. Telleh is supposed to be practically ancient, it would make sense he would use old timey slang. And Edward is in fact, a spoony bard.
I called it funny in the video, because it’s exactly that. That phrase wouldn’t have the love it does if it wasn’t funny.
@@TheReturnersHideout Fair. But everybody points to that as a example of Woosley doing bad translation, and perhaps it was, I don't know what world he translated to get that. But with localization in mind, it makes sense and lots of videos call it out as nonsense, when it's not.
it's a mission I'm on. It's a calling.
Just because it's accurate, doesn't mean it's GOOD...
It's still bad...
I've always considered it accurate and canon. It keeps showing up in remakes of the game too so it's official as far as I'm concerned.
@@gwgux yeah it's accurate... Canon AND OFFICIAL.
It's also bad haha
Like the Rise of Skywalker...
That scrap of paper in the Returners Hideout is one of the few times you can see Terra actually laugh
My fan theory for the game is that Kefka is Bahram, and lost most his memory/mind/etc during the multitude of magicite experiments... the timeline matches up, but moreover it helps explain why Shadow is almost always near Kefka during parts of the story, he's keeping an eye on him. Shadow is the one who tries to stop Kefka on the floating continent, and after Kefka finally dies Shadow knows his job is done so he goes to rest on the collapsing tower.
since Celes was infused, and she's 18 yo, the time gap between Clyde's turning to Shadow and the game play is plausible. Baram becoming Kefka as a failure and thereafter Celes meets the surgery room...
Honestly, same. It's probably not canon, but it should be lol
@@mestrealvarensisoh dude that's pretty disturbing , then that means celes is possibly a clone of Baram. She has similar hair color, but just imagine that Baram was infused with magicite first. Then they cloned him, that's why celes has inherent magic and runs knight capabilities because it's in her genes. They may have even used Shiva as a surrogate. And cid over watched it, which would explain why he considered himself her grandfather
I always thought the "Find me here" in his dreams and his dying line kinda hinted at that as well
Barams age and kefkas age do not match. They have different colored eyes. And did you forget Baram only has one eye and kefka had two? This theory is full of more holes than swiss cheese.
I think Woolsey did a great job at localization. Certain things were altered, usually to conform to NOA censorship standards, and I think that he did the best that he could given the short deadline, and the ever present problem of cutting down the script to still fit on the cartridge when converted to English which requires more space to say the same things. The man is a legend.
People often cite Secret of Mana as an example of bad translation, but with the short time given and the cartridge space limitations (the game was originally being developed for CD and had to be heavily cut down to fit on a cartridge when that fell through, and you can definitely feel that later in the game where it is obvious things had to be rushed and condensed, and then the localization itself had to undergo a similar process) it is a miracle that we got what we did.
Sure, he took some liberties, but I quite enjoyed them. It's funny how Frog from Chrono Trigger talks in a "ye olde" type of way even though no one else from the same time period talks that way. If you notice, in the flashbacks of when he was still human he talked like everyone else. It makes me wonder then if his manner of speaking, though an artifact of the localization at the end of the day, was caused by the curse that turned him into a frog, or if it is something he picked up for reasons unknown. It helps him stand out more distinctly in a game where so much is conveyed through text and limited animations, so I don't think taking liberties like that is always a bad thing, especially when in English the process of giving a character a different tone or manner of speaking is different than in other languages. That's one reason I prefer the original SNES script.
Here's to you, Woolsey, and all of your immortal Woolseyisms.
Also, I imagine the whole Sim City idea could work for a kind of pseudo-sequel that takes place after the ending and the goal is to rebuild the world to its former glory and beyond. Although magic has disappeared from the world, there would still be powerful beasts to make things difficult. It could be a fun game, but knowing how many mobile games there are about building cities or whatever that are marred by ridiculously long real time waiting that you have to pay real money if you want to speed up, only being able to work on one structure at a time unless you pay more money, and other microtransactions, paired with the knowledge that Square Enix is not afraid to make Final Fantasy mobile games built around popular micro transaction systems like real time waiting and gacha mechanics, and suddenly this idea that sounds like it could have been fun if it was made in the '90s or '00s suddenly sounds less appealing
I think one thing he was criticized for was a liberal use of the “American-isms” that took many non-Americans out of the game. It’s something that bothered me as a kid but not as an adult. “Way to go!”
Frog has certain old Japanese grammar as well, so that’s a good translation from Ted.
Subscribed! Really interesting videos. I'm 34, and I first played FF6 as a 7 or 8-year old. At the time, I didn't have the guts to get through Kefka's tower and face him. Years passed and I never sought to beat Kefka once and for all. It became a game "forgotten in the mists of time". But the characters always stuck with me... This morning Asia time, I finally finished FF6! It's been my "LOTR before I knew what LOTR was", and I'm really happy to see a vibrant community including creators like you The Returners' Hideout still talking about this masterpiece.
Hey thanks so much for this comment! Welcome aboard, I haven’t posted in a little while but I’ve been working on some stuff quietly behind the scenes!
It's amazing how fantastic games can be made with so few people. It shows that most games don't NEED 3000 devs, photo realistic graphics, and 100% voice acting to be good.
When I read those facts I had the same thought. This is one of the best games I’ve ever played and a handful of people made it. It’s astounding to me! Thank you for commenting!
And if FF6 was released today, it would be less popular than Nickelback. This is the evolution of the industry, not some grand observation on complexity. EVERY game had only a handful of devs and development time back then. And nowadays, every Triple A game is made by 3000 people over 5 years. That includes Square's games.
"You don't need photo realistic graphics and quality voice acting, you just need the rose tinted nostalgia goggles I have for a game I played in my childhood" There, I fixed that typo for you. Some indie games hit it big with unique and quality gimmicks. FF6 would not, because it doesn't offer anything unique. It didn't at the time of its release either. If anything it was regressive, not featuring a superboss after 5 introduced them and how it devolved into spamming ultima and there being no meaningful distinction between characters (besides Gau and the sasquatch, which were distinct but not in a good way). The only thing FF6 would get is *TORCHED* for how buggy it was, and rightfully so. People whine about patches nowadays, but it beats paying $80 for a game and 30 years later it still nukes your saves if Relm uses her custom command. I'm sure the rose tinted glasses are already being donned, so go ahead and google "Final Fantasy 6 bugs". Check the wiki. There's a shitload of them.
@Veladus You can fix bugs and balance the gameplay WITHOUT the photorealistic graphics, voice acting, or a massive budget. Every complaint you can (rightfully) make against FF6 is completely unrelated to my original post no nostalgia goggles needed.
@Veladus but.. FF6 DID release recently and sold really well in the form of a pixel remaster. And to say something would sell as well as Nickelback, don’t let your own opinion of something flaw the facts, they still sell far above average sales despite people saying they hate them. Proof is in numbers (take a peek at their Spotify streams real quick).
I can understand rose tinted glasses can get in the way, 100%. But to call it regressive because it didn’t have a featured enemy that the last game had is irresponsible at best. It actually did have a super boss that got cut. Yes it’s no secret to anyone who loves or hates the game that it’s full of bugs, but please google that same phrase with any game tacked onto the end of it. Every game has bugs, it happens. You simply don’t know if it would perform well if the game was brand new - no one does, and to claim that you DO know is just impossible. You can have an opinion about probability and all that but it’s still just an opinion.
Thank you for your comment! There’s no reason to get snippy with folks for having a strong opinion about something that is in opposition to your strong opinion.
tl;dr - just let people have fun, friend. Life’s better that way.
We're all reminded of this from time to time, and it's always lovely. I'd say the latest example is probably Balatro with its simple graphics, made by one fellow (as his first game, no less) and currently nominated for 2024's "game of the year" in numerous gaming award presentations.
There's always going to be those huge budget overproduced games made for mass audiences, but the smaller games have always served as the heart and soul of the industry.
I freaking love this game. I played it as FFIII on the SNES as a kid. Great video! I've never seen your channel before, but I am now subscribed!
Hey thank you so much!!
My #1 favorite game of all time. Not just Final Fantasy game, but GAME. I spent hours on this back in the day. Hours, days, months! It was also the first game soundtrack I ever purchased, having used the included order card. I'll never forget the day it arrived and I could hear one of the discs sliding around inside the case. NIGHTMARE FUEL! Fortunately it was okay and I still have my original copy of Kefka's Domain!
I always wanted the OSTs before Spotify was a thing, I attempted to get 2 copies and got 0 lol, but all is good. FF6 is also my favorite game of all time!
Breath of Fire 2 designer: I think I'll "borrow" that idea with cultivating your own town.
I like the idea of Celes also being unstable due to Magitek poisoning. It would have given more insight into Kefka's motivations if we saw someone in the party struggling with the same symptoms.
It would also give Celes and Kefka a dynamic like the Protag and Antag from Persona 4, and that's a hella cool dynamic lol
I think part of it is her lack of empathy at first, she's really young as a general of the empire so she's actually very out of touch with her own instincts. So much so that the entire world ends before she realizes what she's lost. I've also heard you actually are playing from her perspective in world of ruin but that the reason the world seems bleak is actually because that's how celes sees the world, it's not actually how it looks.
If the game ever gets remade I hope they expand on this
While Ted Woolsey's work did become controversial for awhile, I think most people who grew up with the series in the SNES era now agree it's acquired something of a narm charm and, regardless of what's technically accurate, you have to tip your hat to the old son of a submariner.
What was / is controversial about it?
@@obscured.by.clouds. The term Woolseyisms was coined to refer to script changes that not everybody appreciated when they learned about them later. It might not be entirely fair to pin that all on him since he had his marching orders and his memory limitations when dealing with the English language that is less character-efficient than Japanese.
I see what you did there
Wow! Fantastic! One of my favorite games, and I didn't know these facts! I only knew about the terra-garbage moment, the 1 year development, and cid-airship moment.
You only get this kind of content in the returner's hideout!
Bro you are my hero. This the only TH-cam channel that makes me happy and also the most underrated one I've subscribed to
Oh my gosh that’s so nice of you! Thank you so much!
I always thought it was weird that after we save Cid by feeding him the good fish, we just leave him there. Man's a master engineer, surely there's something for him to do on the airship
Wow! Here I think I know everything there is to know about my favorite game and you continue to surprise me. That's some amazing information! I didn't know any of that.
FF3/6 is my favorite game of all time! I can only hope for a proper remake, that does justice to the original! That said, I wish that they had kept the feature where Strago directs the building of a town! It's have been so cool to have the characters have a base of sorts, besides the airships! And for the player to get at least some control over things such as the looks and layout of the town! As well as the people that are invited/approved to live there! Sort of like Township, in Breath of Fire 2!!! Anyhow! Great video! I'm always impressed when TH-camrs share new knowledge about my favorite game! Especially since it's been out for around 30 years! Now I need to go dig out the SNES Mini, to put some FF3/6 play time in! It's been a couple of years now!
Thanks so much! Let me know how your playthrough goes!
In the live stream like a month ago, you promised me a cool city-building-related fact about FF6 and you delivered. Man I wish that ended up in the game. I love city-building mechanics in RPGS. *cough*BreathOfFire*cough*
I recently joined your channel looking up info for pixel remasters. Great Content for sure - Thank You!
No, thank you! That’s super nice of you!
Holy shit, I got whiplash from how quickly this video got to the point. Great job! Subbed!
I know a lot about FF6, but hadn’t heard of any of these. Nice video!
Also, commenting for the algorithm.
Back in the 90s there were Square fansites that featured all sorts of different media, one of which was various character designs. I used to run a fairly popular site and it was always super cool when someone would find stuff no one else had and then send it to me so I could share it with everyone else. ❤❤
Which site?
Final Fantasy 6 will always be my favorite game of all time. Kefka is GOD! (Insert maniacal laugh here) 😏
Remember when the Thamasa villagers come together to try to put out the flames, and there's this awkward pause while this random old woman runs in from offscreen to help? I wonder if that was the developers acknowledging the cut character.
That very well could be! Or maybe not acknowledging the cut, but maybe there was more dialog that was cut between Strago and the old woman! Solid point thank you for that
Why would you not freeze frame the flash of realm?
When I tried it in editing, because the quality of the source material is so rough (it was 360p and I upscaled it to 480), it wasn't a very clear image of Relm, unfortunately.
Great video man! I love this. Keep em coming! And I hope you're still non smoking.
Crazy Celes makes sense since she WAS still made a Magitek Knight using flawed esper magic extraction systems.
Hell yes! These were some facts I *actually* didn't know. Loving your channel, friend.
Thanks so much! That’s super nice of you!
wow... literally never knew about the piece of paper... im pretty blown away by that actually
FFVI was always my favorite FF by far. I've always held that GoGo is Setzer's missing love, Darill. She was never found, after all.
While that was also a favorite theory of mine, I've come to accept that he's more likely the same Gogo from FFV, who wandered in from the Interdimensional Rift after banishing himself. Kinda like how Gilgamesh does.
Me too thanks.
@@Nealend86I used to think this but a detail came to light that gogo in ff6 has no backstory meaning it's actually not the same gogo from the end of the ff5 fight. In fact, the sunken tower of walz where gogo is found may have been there for hundreds of years, and at the end of ff6 gogo drops to the first floor of Kefkas tower. In ff5 gogo is on the first floor, which is actually the last floor. Gogo enters the rift and doesn't go to ff6 they go to ff14s universe. So chronologically, ff6->5->14.
Video idea: talk about box cover art for the games and how they connect to the story.
I remember as a kid going to rent a video game, y'all remember that?, and all I had to go on to pick a game was the box art and a couple pics on the back. Sometimes you get a winner sometimes you didn't. Just thought it would be a neat idea for you
Oh this is good! I can do this! I’ll credit you in the video!!
@@TheReturnersHideout
Just sound out the name - pizza roll 😂
Haha thats my new favorite!
Damn, straight into the video! Always refreshing to not have a 2 minute intro unrelated to the actual video title!
It would have been pretty cool if Terra was actually Locke's rival while still being the badass magical girl that she is. Like if they shared a love interest or some treasure hunting goal.
Lol we would have never gotten a FF7 if one of those things happened in the 90s lmao
As some one who grew up in the UseNet era back in the day it's so interesting to see the shift in Woolsey the past few years. Guy was enemy number one on alt.games.final-fantasy and even rec.arts.anime news groups. It's seems like now that all us Final Fantasy fans are turning into old folks and realizing the job that he had on his plate, what he had to do to get things done and provide for his family, we all sort of respect the man for what he was able to accomplish and do. Guy was pushing him self to 1000 for a pay check with next to impossible goals.
You’re 100% right. Early on there was a pitchfork hatred for him but it’s all flipped now and I would love it if he started a Q and A series answering the questions of us old RPG fans!
I still despise the man, just because one can understand the reasoning behind it, doesnt mean I am required to excuse his slap dash "translations". Like any villain, you can understand their motivations but that doesnt mean you handwave their actions.
Before I watch this I want to say I had to beat this game well over 45 times often to get sprites from specific scenes that just weren't readily available for flash animations I was making as a kid. I feel like I should know everything, but if I don't I will salute you.
I salute you. Didn't know half of these things.
Nope, it's officially pronounces Kate (as in the girl's name) Sith (as in the counter religion to the Jedi). We have it said out loud by the entire main cast of FF7Rebirth now. And SquareEnix themselves confirming it even before release. I've been saying Cait Sith right since 1997.
Of course I call Cait Sith “Kate Sith” lol, I just pointed out that the original pronunciation is different. We *should* also eat healthy and other virtuous things but we don’t. We’re a stubborn lot
@ very true. Need to work out more. Even when I do, I get annoyed about it eating into valuable video game time. That’s time I could be replaying the classic Final Fantasy games.
Most likely, when the name was picked, someone in Japan read about the Scottish (or is it Irish?) myth, but never heard it said out loud, so they said it phonetically. Nearly 30 years later, people in the west tried to tell them the historical pronunciation, but they’d been saying Cait Sith for decades, and decided to stick with it. It’s the nature of language, it changes over time.
@BunBun299 oh 100% yes, I’m sure it’s some cultural dialect in Scotland that is hardly used anymore. It was a tidbit I saw in a strategy guide in 1997 that I held on to, that’s it lol
@@TheReturnersHideoutThat’s not what you said in the video at all. 🤨
@@DefinitelyReagan “yes it’s actually pronounced Ket Shee - look it up it’s based off Scottish Lore”
Yes the pronunciation is *exactly* what I said in the video… which was made before Rebirth came out. What did I not say, friend?
Fun facts! Love FFVI, been my favorite since I was a kid and first played it as FFIII on SNES in the 90s. Not just my all time favorite final fantasy game, but one of my top 3 games of all time.
The way you jump straight into the video caught me off guard 😂
Lol something new I’m trying out!
1:50 It's obvious that it's Umaro...
"during the ending CG cut scene...that plays during the ending" not the ending scene that plays during the start? :P
hehe, I make the same kind of embellishes in my videos sometimes too, it kind of just happens but it works.
GREAT job on this video!
Haha I caught that after editing of course! Thanks so much!
Because FF6 has such a balanced cast of characters and no definitive main, it makes it easy to create an OC that doesn't feel like an imposter. The only rule is, your character also can't be the main lead; they have to mesh well with the existing cast.
"This artwork in the middle is the male counterpart of Terra!"
Looks like a generic anime protagonist.
It's really weird because FF6 was the first FF to not have a Mr. Poofy Hair protagonist, and yet Terra's male counterpart is a straight up Mr. Poofy Hair. I'm glad they went with something a bit more specific for this game.
Bro I love your content so much and I will watch every video, but can I give a suggestion? Your videos need an intro and an outro, even short ones. Especially at the end, so many of them just end abruptly and as a longtime TH-cam watcher, it can be a little jarring. Plus at the end is when you can toss in your plugs, tell people how to buy your merch etc. Just a friendly tip from one of your biggest fans. Love the content.
Thanks so much, my friend!! You’re far too nice! I’ll definitely give it some thought, I’m still experimenting with what works and what doesn’t and I’m always open to suggestions! Thanks for commenting!
As always, if there’s more to uncover, The Returner’s Hideout will figure it out! It’s great to see the Resistance growing!
I thought the city sim was supposed to be apart of the sequel. I could be wrong since, I only heard that fact once. Nice list. Also, it did set Celes up quite well as the spy. The side conversation while going up to protect the esper, some of the dialogue the Emperor and Kefka have at the dinner and on the floating continent. It was a good story.
The weird character in the sketch is Umaro (I think that's the English spelling), the yeti looking optional character ._.
Here's one for ya:
FF6 Moogles are blind. Cave dwelling creatures often lose their eyesight, these Moogles are always squinting. Furthermore, when Mog (or any moogle) opens his eyes in shock, you can get a good look at their very big eyes and you can see that their pupils are completely white. This means little to no light is making it to his retinas.
So how are they able to walk around as though they can see? Their squinty eyes are not the only change from FF5 to FF6: they also gained that adorable pom-pom antenna. This is why Mog hates it getting touched (as noted in FF Ultimania): you're practically poking the thing he uses to see!
Oh. My. Goodness. This is fantastic! I love this, I’m definitely going to have to make a video on this! I’ll credit you 100%!
@@NAzo. Seems I misremembered the FF Ultimania detail: he dislikes his tail being touched.
well, they have that pompom antenna, so...
I always thought the nickle line was weird since.... you know Gil has no denominations as far as I know. Idk maybe it's just me but it's a weird disconnect
It’s also insanely harsh and violent when pitted up against Nintendo’s ‘family friendly’ policies at the time. Can’t show a butt on screen, but THAT? Eh it’s fine
@The Returners' Hideout lol yea, that's true too. I believe it's not true, especially when you get to know him, but it is an official in game rumor that possibly slipped through in the translation crunch.
Given that my two favourite games from this era were FFVI and ActRaiser, I can only imagine how obsessed I'd have been had the city builder remained in!
ActRaiser is such an underrated game, I absolutely love it (along with any SimCity game) and yes I would have still to this day never left my room if the city building part was implemented.
@@TheReturnersHideout I think they'd have found my dessicated corpse in my parents' basement circa 1994 had that happened. I'd have forgotten minor details like food, water, and sleep....
And it would be so easy to do it too! Whoopsie forgot to live
SimCity aspect seems neat. There's multiple RPGs over the years that have this 'rebuild the ruined town' mechanic to them, and it tends to work well, I think it could've worked well in FF6 since Strago/Relm never really get 'justice' after their initial scenes and that'd be a good way to keep them relevant.
I think it worked well in ActRaiser, for sure. I would have LOVED to have seen something like that implemented in this game!
Bravely Default had that feature, although it was largely just an excuse to use the network and play coins functionality of the 3DS.
I have the feeling in the 90es, having 60 people working on a game was considered big
Had to pause the vid not even 20 seconds in lol. It's not a huge deal, but the >CHARACTER< in FFVII is pronounced, Kate Sith, unless this changes in the remake. You do have a point about the creature Cait SIth though, and I can't really speak for their appearance in other FFs, but for FFVII, its Kate SIth lol (unless this changes in the remake)
I learned something new. Thanks Lenard!!
my favourite, always play it from time to time.
I already knew about the paper in the Returners' Hideout. I only came across it by chance.
The soundtrack from this game should be considered one of its greatest achievements as well. It's a timeless masterpiece.
FF6 is my favorite JRPG of all time. I can't believe I'm just now discovering your channel. Excellent thoughts and theories.
Thanks so much my friend! I’m glad you found the Hideout, welcome aboard!
Final Fantasy VI also has some extra slots for characters in it that are unused in its code.
Maybe some of the artwork characters could have ended up being one of the party members.
Some rom hacks even uses them to add custom playable characters to the game.
The only thing from those character slots that the source actually let you know, is their names.
The creators of FFVII went on the record saying that Cait Sith is pronounced Kate Sith, NOT Ket Shee, like in Irish folklore
Interesting facts, I think the sim city simulation part was put into the ff6 T-Edition mod. Great video👍
Thats really cool. If that is true.
So... Kitase was "promoted" from director/scenario writer to producer after Final Fantasy X.
That... explains a lot, actually.
Fun fact - that iconic suicide attempt when you fail to save cids life? You actually can save his life. It's hard, you have to give him nothing but the best fish, but he can live,and you can visit him later too.
I've always loved ff6 it just did so much, absolutely right. The only complaint i might have is i never managed to get all of Sabin's moves. Though i did suplex the ghost train so that makes up for it a bit.
I wonder what Rebirth will do about Cait Sith's name. I imagine they'll use the pronunciation we all have used for years.
So I recently played through and beat FF7 and just a couple days ago beat FF6 and I'm going back and forth on which one I like the best
Character development for FF6 was not a flaw. Every character with the exception of Umaro and Gogo have a story arc devoted to them, even mog has a little development despite the fact he was an optional character. FF6 also gave its characters closure to their stories something no other FF does as well. It's one of the reasons why it's the most acclaimed game in the series.
I grew up loving this game. It is STILL one of my all time favorites
Fienamanasee??
That tanaka photo is not her but yoko kanno
Oh snap! I should have researched it more, thank you so much!
Good catch!
That hidden concept art.. makes me wonder whom the doggo character would have been.
Lone wolf? I .. kinda think yes.
Could be, but could it also be Interceptor?
I wonder if Nomura had that unused male Terra/Tina concept in mind while designing Kingdom Hearts Terra. There is a little resemblance.
And the 2nd half of the game was unplanned I heard once. There was so much budget left over they got to do what they wanted right?
I’ll have to research this! Thanks so much!
Not quite. They finished way ahead of schedule, with them planning on the Floating Continent as the final dungeon, but instead of just turning it in, they decided to spend the extra time to change the original ending and expand the game further, giving us the entire World of Ruin plot!
@@AkaiAzul yep that's what I ment if it's not what I said because I heard it form a old co worker
That’s it! I’m doing a playthrough with Relm, Shadow, and Gogo as my main party
The family is reunited, and it’s all thanks to you! Although.. I am curious as to what the dynamics of that party would be through the second half of the game in terms of battling! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@TheReturnersHideout aye! Consider this to be continued for a comment on the future 🫡
Relm, Shadow, Gogo, and Strago is actually one of the best endgame party combinations in ff6 without glitches by the way, that's the whole family.
Celes is also my favorite FF6 character! Then Edgar and Sabin, such great characters too!
There really has not been a FF installment that has made me feel as complete as this one.
Ooh, that’s first time I’m hearing what the concept was for that male character that might’ve been Terra. I couldn’t seem to find any info on it
finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Terra_Branford
That's where I got some of the information from, I'd have to dig deeper to find the nitty gritty, but definitely check out the Cutting Room Floor for all sorts of unreleased goodies!
tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor
Re: Your wild theory about Gogo being Relm's mother, I more subscribe to the theory that Gogo is Rachel. That one's been around since the '90s, and the more you look into it, the more the pieces all fall into place.
1:18 where is Gau in the concept art? I initially thought he was the one crouching down in the lower left corner but then thought that might be male Terra's esper form
A final fantasy video by someone who can’t say ‘final fantasy’ is an interesting concept
at least he doesn't use AI narration
Lol IKR
He just says it kinda fast. Good lord.
I always learn something at the hideout 😎
everyone knows celes was a spy.
@@NAzo. wtf are you talkig about
@@NAzo. nope.
Celes was a spy.
Is there something wrong with YOU?
@@NAzo. lol.
she' was spy cuz she infiltrated the group through nefarious means.
the end.
did she come through in the end?
nope.
she flipped and joined your group.
still means she was a spy.
Celes wasn't a spy she was under posthypnotic suggestions, she's not evil. She just wanted to pretend to be and when she realizes she cares about her new friends the world ends that's why the over world song is titled "Searching For Friends" 😊
Celes being a spy would explain why an augmented magic-using general was being pushed around by common soldiers. OTOH they were making a big show of hurting her when nobody was watching, and hid her in a basement instead of putting her in a path to meet the Returners. So eh.
Ditto! FF6 is also my favorite one! And yeah, admittedly Woolsey made some, at best questionable translation choices... but son of a submariner, the entire fandom had a conniption when they "corrected" his most well known lines.
Nah, I always say GoGo is the emperor 👀
When he falls from the floating continent it looks like he lands towards the triangle island. I always told myself he either doesn't remember who he was, or he is trying to atone for everything that he had done.
Came here for ffvi and learn ffvii Cait Siths really name is ketchup. Mind blown
As a former translator myself of RPGs (working in the Asian market), a month is an incredibly long time. I usually had at most two weeks to finish a project.
Given the scope of FF6 though, I can't even imagine how grueling that must have been for him though.
"Brilliant!" - Vargas
Tara's male version is 100% squall that's wild. 😂
Just a reminder to deny joining the Returners until you get the cooler relic from Bannon.
This is a great video, thanks!
Hey thank you so much! I appreciate that!
Quick side note that Woolsey did not work on FF2(US) and therefore did not make the spoony bard line
Oh yes I know this, that line comes across wrong in hindsight. What I meant was, if you ever see a weirdly translated line, blame it on the fact that localization teams don’t get a long time to get it done.
I've been banned from so many channels, please don't ban me from this one! You're too awesome!
That's weird
Yes I too am a fan of Fffanafanazi VI
I came here to say this
at 1:50 that weird thing that you said who is this, I presume it's Mog.. or the original concept of it.. and I may be wrong.. but I count 13 characters (if we exclude Strago's old woman counterpart) and since I doubt one of the 2 World of Ruin only recruitable characters (Umaro and Gogo) is that girl behind the "male version of Terra" like you called him.. I'm pretty sure there's something else about that unknown guy in the middle and that the girl behind the dude is Terra. Oh and before anyone answer me, I know Umaro and Gogo are not the ONLY recruitable characters in the WoR, I meant recruitable for the first time possible, and yes, for those who don't know it.. you can get Mog in World of Balance..
Actually 1:17 in the bottom middle (under the old lady) looks a lot more like mog. I think the one he mentions _is_ umaro. Or maybe the imp? Though I feel like it goes moogle, Imp, chocobo (I just feel like that makes the most sense) in the bottom there, which lends itself toward the one in question being umaro and not the imp. Also I think the girl behind the center guy is celes, I feel like it looks like other art I've seen of celes especially with that sword. I wanna know who the one on the far lower right is, terra, maybe?
@@phydur3056 you're right for mog, didn't remarked it at first but it is indeed mog there, as for Celes being the one behind if you are right then the woman in far lower right corner is Terra. So if that ugly thing is not mog like I presumed it was... I guess it's Kappa the Imp or if it's Umaro, goodness gracious, a good chance they didn't made him look like that in the final game back in 1994
I do like Amano's artwork, but something I've always hated is the disconnect between the in-game sprites for character designs, the artwork, and also the in-game portraits! Locke for example, his in-game sprite has a headband like the artwork and his portrait has a full head-covering bandana. Celes, like Terra, wears a leotard with pauldrons in the sprite, but the artwork has her with a completely different outfit. She also has a headband in her sprite that's blue and goes across her whole head, but in the portrait and the artwork, it's like a little back barrette thing? Why are the designs so inconsistent, even in later versions, lol.
I will say, I do prefer the sprite designs over both the portrait and the artwork, for all the FFs with this problem, cause even though I like Amano's overall artstyle, the character designs all blend into each other due to the sort of same face and hair syndrome, lol.
Huh, first thought of (maybe male) Aya Brea at what may have been the male Terra in that concept art.
i like how the explanation for holy = pearl is supposedly due to keeping religious references out, when there are a ton of other games that completely ignored this rule and did things as intended. even after the guideline was lifted, we still had games that followed it for no reason (kingdom hearts, mickey's holy = pearl). we called it ted woolsey syndrome. there was another localizer in line, story escapes me of why he didn't go through with it, but he was far far far more qualified and most likely would have given us a near perfect translation back then. bummer..
Whelp, I knew about the Cait Sith thing, but that doesn't count.
Also, did you skip number 6? or was the Sim City thing suppose to be #6? Because if that's the case 3/6 for me, I knew about the Sim City thing, Final Fantasy Union did a video about it. I also knew the Cid thing, and the small dev team but not all the details.
honestly though, am I really that high? because number 5 is the last one you did. right?
Haha, there were only 5 facts, but I added SEVERAL extra ones for fun!
@@TheReturnersHideout I appreciated the extra ones. Thanks.
@@TheReturnersHideout oh my god. the 6 was because of ff6, not 6 facts. sorry about that 😬
My favorite also.
Though I've played it so much that I'll likely not want to again for 8 years or so. I've done just about everything possible.
so he actually liked the name Celesterra. however being it was too long he broke it up between two characters. also originally Character #1 (now Terra) was originally going to be given the Runic secondary ability but then scraped the idea later on giving it to a different character.
Gogo is actually a former president