ASUS ROG FLOW X16 Review - The Display is Too Good!
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- Review of the ASUS ROG Flow X16 convertible laptop. It comes packed with an AMD Ryzen 9 6900HS CPU, NVIDIA RTX 3070TI and a gorgeous mini LED Display!
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What do you guys think of the ASUS ROG Flow X16? I want everything to use mini led or oled going forward. Also, if you missed it check out my video on the HP Pavilion Plus. Insanely well priced for what you get th-cam.com/video/tK3G-lAKgds/w-d-xo.html
Finally dude, finally. would you compare the cpu power of it and the x13 both from 100w usb-c the xg mobile 3080 and also the x16 from 240w wall power only, also i would see a test of the 125w 3070ti from 240w wall power from 100w usb-c power and also compare it to the 150w 3080 xg mobile? aso with the xg mobile, how muh better will get the cpu performance compare to 240w wall power only and usb-c power, thanks in advance! Do you have any solution to use windows prntscreen on this laptop?
Does it support Linux?
Superb review Matt! About the thermals tho, i think this puppy is supposed to game while in tent mode just like the flow x13. Can u please check if there is any difference in temperatures when u put it in tent mode and then regular laptop mode? Thanks alot mate and keep up the good work!
This display looks incredible! I was planning on going for the Z13, but after seeing this video, I have to get the X16 for the mini LED display. I hope Asus comes out with a 40 series XG Mobile gpu next year.
that hindge would be a problem with an external webcam like dell cmos i think its a big drawback there.
I've had mine for a few days now. I don't game much at all, what i use it for is 3d modelling & rendering for landscape architecture. It's a damn sight cheaper than workstation equivalents, has much better features and still looks completely professional. unlike pretty much all over powerful gaming laptops.
i've already taken this to clients to show them around models & renders in tablet mode, letting them navigate with their fingers. Inside, and outside on the sites.
This laptop i feel will earn its money back in no time at all.
Also;
- You can charge it from usb c.
- It runs completely silent for normal spreadsheet, streaming, youtube, emails etc.
- The screen rotates any which way you want, so you can have the warm air keeping you warm if you're outside/in the cold, or rotate the device and have the vents blowing away from you.
lovely machine so far.
p.s the hinge is plenty stiff enough on mine
Bro, can i ask, what type that u buy?
Ryzen 9 or ryzen 7
I want to buy for modelling too, its ok on lumion too?
@@whyfire-yh3zr Ryzen 9, top spec. i use sketchup with lumion. the cpu and gpu were off the chart in the lumion benchmark. the ram & graphic memory were at the recommended level.
lumion 12.5
What's the charging like on USB C?
@@taylor2688 I forgot about that feature. Will try it now from my macbook charger.
@@taylor2688 gone up 23% in the 1hr 30 mins ive been charging it by usbc, whilst using it for sketchup and emails. full brightness.
96w macbook charger.
I'll try it when the laptop is off later
If the pricing wasnt so insane, this would be an amazing buy
especially if you keep the laptop in good shape for long time, because if you eventually want an upgrade for performance down the line, you can just buy an XG mobile 4080+ (if they release one) instead of buying a whole new laptop, a 15 inch laptop with an XG mobile port sounds so good on paper
@@santiagom5900 on paper but when you consider the price your paying for that xg mobile + support for the xg mobile in the laptop itself, its enough money to buy a completely new better laptop a few years down the line...
@@santiagom5900 i want to buy one should i?
@@mrawesome6239 there is a built in rtx grphic card so you wont need xg mobile?
@@kenzo1489 if you have 3$-4$k and need a good display, I'm chilling with my used last gen clearance razer blade 13" XD
if i could i would though, but im sure you can get better performance for cheaper
but for the future instead of spending 3k for a new laptop with a nice screen you could buy an xg mobile for 1400 with a 4080 possibly if you get this laptop + you get to keep the nice screen that this on has
hey Matt! thx for great review :) Was waiting for it, because I’m really interested in this product (to replace my GX531GX). As I heard there is one solution for achieving better thermals - just put it in tent mode or place it on cooling pad. Because its convertible they made really small rubber feet’s under it, in other words they just chocked air vents.
Would be nice to see the temps on cooling pad and in tent mode. Nonetheless I will still buy this product, it will be perfect for my type of use. Cheers :)
No one is going to pick up their laptop with a screen that wide open @2:15. In laptop mode there is a notch in the mechanism that will stop the hinge from going beyond 95 degrees which means if you pick up your laptop in laptop mode it will not flop.
Note that AMD is moving with USB4 and those USB-C already are USB4 on some devices and can be in the future via firmware update. Full USB4 gives eGPU and other goodies known from TB3.
Glad at least someone is trying to put good screens on gaming laptops, Makes me hopeful for the future when it's time for me to upgrade again.
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The perfect high-end laptop: 16:10, MUX switch, 2in1 convertible, mini-LED, HUGE battery with very efficient AMD6000 CPU. replaceable ram, extremely small and light for the high end specs, probably 8-9 hr battery when using the very competent iGPU.
This marvel of engineering is the perfect proper gaming laptop . I really wish it came with the Radeon 6700S or 6850M options . They would have managed to make it around 200-300 grams lighter and $200 cheaper.
Asus make some of the best laptops on the market. The only thing that's prevented me from buying one is that they sell all of their ROG models with ANSI layouts in ISO countries. Their low end machines all use the correct layout. Why is this excluded when you pay for the premium models?
_"I really wish it came with the Radeon 6700S or 6850M options"_
That would be Lenovo Legion Slim 7 (Gen 7 AMD), not a 2-in-1 but basically identical to Flow X16.
@@JasperCrowe Lol no Asus sucks
@@JasperCrowe Lol no Asus sucks
@@blue4059 Only comes with 16 GB ram max in dual channel mode....
I would like to know if it does not support thunderbolt what resolution could you use the USB C Display port with? 4k/144Hz? 8k/60Hz? or the maximum is 4k/60Hz?
For the SSD expansion slot, do you put the SSD over the black cable or under the black cable? it kinda gets in the way...
0:14 Dude...
1. Tent mode raises the operating components off the desk/bed to improve thermals and reduce ingress collection. Tent mode also takes up less space for watching series and movies on a plane.
2. You can lay it flat with more peace of mind than a clamshell that can lay flat
3. If you eat your greens and do your pushups, tablet mode allows easier content consumption walking around the house.
4. You no longer suffer from bottom firing speakers.
Take it from someone that moved from a puny, old Acer swift convertible to a traditional gaming clamshell. It's an acquired taste but the benefits are there if not ideal for a gaming laptop.
I'm so happy it's a convertible because I annotate a lot and touch screens with stylus support is standard for my work flow now.
But an 1080p or webcam would've made this perfect and competitive to surface product line webcams.
It has a webcam with windows face unlock. The 2560x1600 resolution is the resolution with or without the multi zone mini led nebula display. The quality of the webcam is so so at best, but that really does come down to software more then hardware. For me it is fine since if it didn’t support face unlock I would have just blocked the webcam otherwise and if there was no webcam I would have also not cared in the slightest.
Thank you so much for this! Been waiting for a long time!
Agreed, thanks, Matthew has so many reviews lately!
You're very welcome guys! Thanks for all your support.
Hi, just wanted to ask if you could compare the rog flow x16 and the rog zephyrus g15, I'm stuck between this two and don't know which one to buy
I hope someday ASUS switches to normal or minimal looking key typefaces on laptops like these.
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It's actually not that noticable in person, I used to think the same but glancing at them at Best Buy you literally cannot tell.
is the type C port USB 4 compatible? If it is, then it is for all intents and purposes thunderbolt compatible.
Well I need a laptop for machine learning and watching videos with some gaming. It needs to be portable and have a nice screen. The fact that it's bendable is also awesome because it's easier to use it while on the go. Damn I'm getting this!
Finally a bright screen I can use outside while watching tv, films or gaming!
It's amazing to see a laptop like this (I just saw it available for ~$1100). Not even more than a few years ago, laptops with this level of performance didn't even exist and now they're able to make a slim 2-in-1 that can keep up with a lot of desktops?
Sign me up!
Does anyone have a recommendation for a dock - other than the Asus one (XG) with the additional GPU.
I don't need an external GPU, but support for 4k displays, gig ethernet, VGA and as many other ports as possible...
Pls tell me if your Flow x16 also crashes when starting valorant, or when you know how to fix this issue, i already tried many things
Doesn't the macbook pro 16 mini led display XDR screen have more local leds they can dim than this one ? Because blooming is a serieus issue on them... If you like to watch a movie at night in the dark... it's horrible...
Does anyone have the IPS variant of flow x16? Please let me know how the screen..are the blacks good? I have bought the IPS one ..hope its not night and day between that and mini led..
I really need a convertible for my handwritten study notes, but I could also use something powerful for video editing. I think this is the most powerful convertible there is, so is it the right choice to get this one?
Are these test temps in a traditional desk mode or in tent mode?
I love how succinct this video is. I hate these 50+ min reviews for something that should take less than 10
Where is it available right now?
I am thinking to buy it just confused that in a long term it will become loose due to 360 portability, please reply
Hi sir
what can you suggest for games & photoshop that has 2in1 laptop with pen
Just got this today, doesnt come with a manual, anyone got a pdf or link to the manual?
well, this looks like something I could use instead of my GE75 Raider 8sf. But... I use my gaming laptop at my lap 99% of the time and I really don't want my jewels melted, so what about bottom temps during 1440p gaming and stresstesting?
I encountered coil whining noise problem on 2 of the ROG Zephyrs Duo 16s, the noise seem to come from the chip that controls the mini led panel. Do you hear that on the X16?
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Hi! For everybody, who wants to know how it goes one year later. There are a lot of problems to talk about... Here is my experience with Asus ROG Flow X16 2023:
First of all I am a hardcore gamer and a game developer. So I used this laptop every day and push it to the limits a lot while I am working or playing. So problem number 1: after one year of everyday use the painting gets completely off (literally) in the areas where your hands rest below the keyboard. Problem 2 the integrated keyboard started to get randomly disconnected, so you are left with the touchpad only most of the time. Problem 3: even if you are not gaming or doing heavy tasks the maximum of battery lifetime which I ever had from the moment when I purchased this laptop was 2 hours total.
Hello, thank you for this détailed review
At 1.01 there is written the delta average is 0.73 : are you speaking about the delta e ?
Thank you
How is this screen vs the 2022 Asus oled displays?
been waiting for this one
x16 vs m16 whats your choice?? it is too hard for me..
The laptop close to perfection 🥺 if only it's available
this versus the Pro Art. Which one would you get?
I can’t find where to buy please help
can't wait to see the 2023 model
Is there any coil whine coming from the screen? I believe this is the same display as the Zephyrus Duo 16 with the MiniLED and a lot of people are having coil whine issues on that particular model.
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does it support usb 4.0? pcie 5?
Can hinges be replaced at all if they wear out with time? Is it possible?
Ofc yes
Where did you buy it? :
So strange that the battery life is not that great, considering it has similar battery life to the m16 with the i9 intel cpu, and less battery than a similarly speced g15, with the only major difference being the hdr display :(
Been waiting for months and still can't find this for sale anywhere!
battery life ?
since we are living in world of this vs macbook, I would love to see comparison of performance on battery next to regular one.
Does it have stylus support?
Matt pointing at the camera and saying "ribbed for your pleasure" made me feel some kinda way idk that hit me hard
It looks pretty nice, though I wish it had a slightly nicer design. Also, I have no idea when it will actually be on sale.
Superb review Matt! About the thermals tho, i think this puppy is supposed to game while in tent mode just like the flow x13. Can u please check if there is any difference in temperatures when u put it in tent mode and then regular laptop mode? Thanks alot mate and keep up the good work!
Good point!
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You are right! Asus had to make the bottom feet small in order to make the tablet mode as flat as possible. But due to that, the bottom vents choke on both x13 and x16 laptops.
Both tent-mode and stand-mode improve the thermals quite a lot.
If you absolutely need to use normal laptop mode then I'd recommend use a stand, or just use the cardboard stand that comes with the laptop box.
There is a massive difference in temperature when the bottom of the laptop is exposed to air in tent mode or the horizontal stand mode. Like 10-15 degrees Celsius lower.
Hello Matthew, I really like the content you create and I would like to ask for your advise. Recently I have been managed to receive some offerings on some gaming laptops, for fracture of their release retail price and I am wondering if its still worth to buy 2019 gaming laptop models at authorised reseller, used ones, still with 12 month warranty. I would have been able to get them for the half of the retail price. I would really appreciate your thoughts on this. Thanks!
Depends on the laptop and what you're using it for
This design is perfect for me, I am a 3d designer, sculpting on this thing is amazing , world of difference👌 and you save money cause no longer need a Cintiq.
This is what the surface studio laptop should have been
oh, you can draw on the whole screen? I thought it was just the lower part, cus that's what he showed :P
@@mangomariel yeah its the whole screen, it would be weird if only the bottom had touch😅
What pen do you use on this?
How good is this for stylus support as an artist?
@@ManchurianHeyoka Asus Pen 2.. it's really good, latency depends on program, palm rejection perfect, line quality there's some wooble.
But the performance is overkill for illustration.
I've watched so many videos. Can someone please tell me in plain language whether the asus x16 (or the x13 for that matter) laptop will run my games without the mobile gpu. I don't want and cant afford the mobile gpu. but I want a 2in1 that I might as well be able to play games on. thanks
I’ve had a couple RoG laptops and the ROG Ally, all with eGPU compatibility, never had one and they seemed to run fine to me… that being said, I don’t play competitively. If you need that dependability, and your level of play doesn’t require the backup graphics, you don’t need the eGPU. And that’s probably 97% of PC gamers that use portable devices.
My Flow X16 with the 4070 easily runs most games at 1600p.
@@AgainstWokeness I have the 4070 X16 now and yeah it’s an amazing machine. No egpu necessary!
is the screen shaking ühen you type ?)
I’ve seen elsewhere that the rubber feet on the underside are relatively small, choking the intake fans as a result. Would be interesting to see results with it raised or placed on a laptop cooler.
Tossing up between this or the Raider Ge67HX!
Yeh Asus had to make the feet small to make tablet mode as flat as possible. Unfortunately it chokes the vents as you mentioned.
Using any stand really improves the temps... Even the included cardboard stand proves to be quite an improvement to the temps
What on earth is it with all the laptop manufacturers putting the USB A on the right. The one USB A thing I still use regularly is a mouse. and it's super annoying when plugged in on the right.
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Does it have USB4.0 ?
The tent mode is what I need. So I can hook it up to a portable keyboard.
Hi Matt, was your battery life test with the GPU running? If it wasn't, what's your estimation of battery life with GPU not running? Great video as always.
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What about "screen door effect"? Most of these OLED touch displays suffer from this issue
This is not OLED, this is a mini LED display
Does it support Linux?
Wow this looks like a really well balanced laptop, almost has everything I'm looking for in a high performance all rounder laptop
Hi, thanks for the excellent review! could you tell me which settings you used for the battery test, and on which mode the display was for the brightness test?
40% brightness, silent mode
or if theres a power saver mode I used that
@@MatthewMoniz if max brightness is 1100nits, was 40% around 500nits? It would be great to get battery life data with normalised brightness level. Thanks Matthew!
@@Manuel-rl6um peak brightness is different from max brightness. Max brightness is around 500 nits. Peak brightness kicks in when using HDR or some SDR content that requires a small portion of the screen to increase its brightness for a small portion of time. A good example is watching HDR content and lets say there is a bright element on the screen like the sun that little portion might kick up to 1100nits while the rest of the display remains a constant 500. Really important for HDR. Hope that makes sense!
@@MatthewMoniz Thanks for your replies. For the display other reviews mention that you can switch between single or multi-zone panel backlighting. Any idea which mode it was on while testing?
Hey Matthew, should I go for the 3060 model of the X16? I live in India, so I know it gets kinda hot here, but I move around a lot and I wanted a gaming laptop I can carry and use it for the years to come assuming that all I need to do is get the external GPU for it. Laptops get sold out really fast here, so I am not sure what to go for right now. What are you thoughts?
What laptop did you bought finally?
@@ajpatidar. I didn't buy anything yet, still waiting for the prices to go down
@@gavinrodrigues5296 which laptop did you end up getting
@@ninx6117 Legion 7i
@@gavinrodrigues5296 any particular reason ?
What about the noise ?
this might be my next purchase with ryzen7000 cpu's for next year and prop rtx4k series
Is this the 2022?
How did you take that thumbnail?
Asus finally releases a laptop with a mini led display. I been wanting a mini led display on a laptop back when there was a 4k mini led display on the msi creator 17 with the Intel i7 cpu and 2070 max q. The msi creator 17 mini led has a 4k mini led with a 1000 nits max brightness that I really wanted but the downside is that the ram and ssd were soldered into the motherboard so that made me changed my mind.
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Same. Also this new 16" mini led screen is way better than that old 17" of the MSI - it has 512 zones vs 240 zones of backlight. And speakers are better and everything else is too basically.
i have an msi gs75 with the 4k mini led display (which i got for a steal at $1500 CAD). It's basically same thing as creator 17 except different colour scheme. ram and ssd are NOT soldered on. The problem is if you want to replace them, you have to take out the motherboard because they are on the other side. it also has a spare slot for another ssd.
also, minimum brightness on the mini led display is pretty high on sdr mode. if i remember correctly, i measured mine at 120 nits minimum, which is blinding in a dimly lit room with a mostly white screen. it was one of the first mini led displays for laptops so brightness levels don't discriminate whether you are in hdr mode or sdr. battery drains super fast at 1000 nits too XD
When is this coming out? I’ve been looking for it forever!!!!
Facts
I have HP Spectre X360 15 (2018) and I'm the content creator that will use all of this. I travel weekly and need my powerstaion with me, so laptop is needed. I use touchscreen with pen input for notes and drawing and I also do a little bit of GPU rendering on top of 3D modeling (Architecture) so this is literaly the best laptop I could wish for
Hi Matt, is fan noise ok ? Can I play without a headset or I’ll hear the fans too much ?
You'll definitely hear the fans but its bearable
Thank you Matthew
Now they’ve made this gimme the Z16 gaming tablet and I’m all set!
Hey Matt great review the specs list it as having hdmi 2.0b while Jarrod had hdmi 2.1 in his engineering sample. Which is it in the final unit? Also was fan noise in turbo mode as loud as the m16? Thanks.
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It probably is very loud just look at the form factor its very thin, personally I would buy a thicker laptop like the MSI or razer blade 17 because Im 100% sure the fan noise will be at a minimum plus you can get the 3080ti version and keep the laptop for a very good time down the line.
can you compare the display side by side with a IPS 16-inch QHD+ 165Hz ROG Nebula Display? the Flow X16 that's available here in Malaysia is only available with IPS display 🥲
Kind of hard to do on camera. Best to go in store and see for yourself.
@@MatthewMoniz true but we don't have the mini led version here to see it 😆
When is legion 7 and slim 7 gen 7 coming
Still going with the flow x 13 for form factor and better temps but this thing still looks damn impressive
It's 3 inches smaller no way it has better temps.
@@AdvancedGamingYT It has a 3050 ti and lower instead of a 3070 ti to cool. So far I haven't seen any reviews mention the temps on the chassis, especially the keyboard section, get up to the numbers seen in this review
@@krovarus1911 Yeah I mean if you like getting like +60% less FPS then sure go for it!
@@AdvancedGamingYT I'm hooking it up to the xg mobile enclosure anyway so there shouldn't be any less performance
Trust me I had the Flow X13 and it was anything BUT a cool laptop.
forced to buy this as i need pen input and 360 hinge with 32 ram. sucks about the thermals with three fans! amd chip and still short battery life? wasn’t x13 intel?
if display is good then how are the speakers?
time spy results??
Question for your next Q&A - is a 12th gen i5 12500 + RTX 3050 (70-75w) & 16gigs Dual Channel DDR5 Memory good enough for casual to moderate 1080p gaming? coupled with a gen4 SSD, if that makes any difference?
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If you're not going to play high end games or want extremely high fps it should be alright
What I'm amazed about is the fact that , that puny looking battery is 90whrs
Why everyone reviewed models with the mini-LED displays and didn't notice, than most models have simple LED display? Mini-LED had only models with RTX 3070 ti and 4070. A lot of people bought ASUS ROG FLOW X16 and figure out they have only ROG Nebula Display Instead of ROG Nebula HDR.
Just got one 🕺 One reason I did want the 2-in-1 formfactor is so I can use an external keyboard, with tent mode, with the screen positioned nice & close, just behind the keyboard.
P.S how the heck do I switch between single & multi-zone? Is there a user guide?
Looks like the display mode (single/multi-zone) is supposed to be in the System Configuration panel of Armoury Crate, but I don't have that setting. I definitely have the Mini-LED display.
I screwed up completely. I thought "ROG Nebula" meant "Mini-LED", but it doesn't - it needs to have the "HDR" suffix. 😡 I definitely do NOT have Mini-LED afterall. I'm a pea-brain.
Is the display as good as the 14 and 16 inch MBP
Yup! Even better since you get a high refresh rate.
Hey Matt! You mentioned that there are other asus stuff for good thermals. Can you name some?
Zephyrus m16, or proart studiobook 16, if you are looking for similar products
I feel like the better buy would be my personal setup of a MacBook Pro 16 base for work and an Xbox Series S for gaming
(Same Price as this laptop)
Wish it had hdmi 2.1 support instead of 2.0b
I want that display in a thin laptop without a dedicated GPU and with usb-c charging. In something like the new Lenovo Yoga 7i 16".
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I would like to see a comparison with the HP Spectre x360 16”
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Love the thumbnail, cool shot.
Thanks!
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Great specs, clean design, slots for ram and storage and that display looks gorgeous. But I have to say the hinge reminds me if those babies with super heavy heads that can't sit by themselves.
Ya its just veryyy top heavy that. It might be a better with the non miniled version since its a lighter display
@@MatthewMoniz how did you only get less than 6 hours on p0whr battery and 6900hs cpu? that should lead intel, xps 15 with oled got more than double, how than happaned?
I wouldv definately bought this laptop without hinge problem.
This guy’s obsessed with stickers lmao.
(But then again, im the one that’ll take those off if i get a gaming laptop lol)
3k no thunderbolt port... 😢
Does the screen support pen input?
I mention this in the video and it does!
@@MatthewMoniz why not show it?
I wish they make flow Z16 with intel HX processor and rtx 3080 🔥🔥
A H processor and a 3070 would be enough, because of the battery life with an 3080 and hx the battery would be emoty in 1 minute.
Before I'm hesitate to buy this or win max 2, but later I chose win max 2 as well