My #1 BIGGEST PROBLEM with YWAM and its Repercussions
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ค. 2021
- The book mentioned at 4:30
"A Tale of Two Kings" by Gene Edwards-
www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...
This is part of one of the top reviews on Goodreads which I really appreciated and think really drove my point home:
"Did it ever occur to this author that sometimes the people speaking up against the king are a Nathan? The very fact that this tale of three kings skips completely over those chapters tells me volumes about what the author was thinking when he wrote this book and what pastors are thinking when they hand it out to their unsuspecting congregations. Did it ever occur to this author that those who speak up against the “anointed” are Elijahs, or Daniels, or Martin Luthers? But no, the only option included in this tale is that of Absalom. The author insists that there is no way of knowing the difference between a corrupt leader and a misguided one. Then he suggests that the only option for one who rises to oppose that leader is one of sinful rebellion. The message intended here is obviously “resistance is futile”, and though it promises a study of brokenness, it does nothing to help those who are hopelessly broken other than to suggest that they not speak up in any way against those who broke them. Those who, like me, have tried for years to speak up and be heard, are only discouraged more by this author’s words."
When I was going through my outreach photos and picking out the photos for the slides used in this video, I stumbled on some screenshots from our team group chat right before outreach. They reminded me that we were asked to each make a list of commitments for ourselves for outreach and to send them to our team so that they could hold us “accountable” to said commitments. One of my commitments was to “not be independent”...
“not be independent”
this is why they confidently tell you "take from this what you will, not forcing anything". they have the game set up from the start.
Keep it up. Ywam is a scam. I hope you continue to study psychological typology but more importantly I hope u dont let a ywam experience destroy your allegiance to the King.
So Brave. Your vision is so clear and you see through the manipulative nonsense of “ Spiritual” leaders who have never met the Spirit. Keep speaking your mind!! Proud of you.
Thank you for speaking out. I'm so glad I was able to give the true gospel to some of those that were part of the demise and I do pray for them and I hope that they do not continue because being under that kind of teaching for a few decades was a challenge to wash my brain from all that still in process so I'm glad that you were able to get out and find safety and start your healing journey
another very interesting assertion how they use Saul and David @ 5:50 to eisegete that as "YWAM is right even when wrong". Thanks again. You're blowing this cult mentality away.
Thank you for your videos! I relate a lot!
Please could you turn the volume up in your future videos? It is so low even on maximum. Thanks! :)
Thank you for this video. It really hit a nerve with me. This is a long story, but I think you will appreciate it. I was required, by "leaders" just a few years older than I, who I often did not trust, to literally break another country's law. For two weeks of my life, I did border crossings into a "closed" country literally smuggling Bibles. Sometimes under my clothes, sometimes in suitcases, standing in long lines, trying to subvert checks or find a way around those x ray machines to see what's inside your luggage. It was stressful, scary and totally overwhelming. I was told if I was caught, at best they detain you for the day and then tell you that you cannot enter the country that day, at worst you may be banned from this country for life. I was caught one day, and detained by very terrifying border guards. I was completely alone, as we were all required to do these crossings by ourselves. I felt like there wasn't a healthy fear of a huge, dictator lead country with strict and scary laws. Did they know one hundred percent that I would be safe? I'm not entirely sure. That day was petrifying. Once I was detained and sent back, again alone, I had to find my contact back in country A since I wasn't allowed in country B, and this contact point changed daily and was difficult to find. I was terrified I was going to be lost, completely alone, back in country A while the rest of my team was in country B. and all this after spending hours being yelled at by very intimidating border guards in broken English. Ya, I sort of want YWAM to pay for my therapy from that one. Looking back, I think freedom of knowledge and access to any book is noble. This, this was not noble. This was unwise to require of vulnerable teen and young twenty something youth fresh on the "mission field".
I can relate to the feeling insane. I had a crazy experience too. There were good and bad and I’m still trying to heal from a lot of this stuff. To be honest I feel like a lot of my relationships are worse and I haven’t felt like my true self for a while and I have a hard time connecting to others. I think I have social anxiety and many people get a weird vibe from me and don’t want to really stay friends. I used to make and keep friends all of the time but now I’m just different. I learned a lot of good things while I was gone but I also felt horrible. And I think YWAM and Christianity in general have caused me to feel awkward because of making you feel like being close to someone who isn’t a Christian or a YWAMer is a bad thing. If anyone is reading this comment my advice also would be to look into everything. Look at the mission statement, hear some testimonials good and bad, check into their teachings, pay attention to how they advertise. Most importantly read your Bible so that you are able to understand and even call out on any BS they try to present to you.
I’m so sorry this happened to you and is still effecting you in this way. It still effects me too, in many ways. Although I would say that since therapy I have found my social anxiety to be the lowest it’s ever been. I’m not sure if the two are connected, or if it’s just because of my work environments which have forced me to become more confident and outgoing. Either way, I’d encourage you to really dig into the root of your anxiety and see if you can make a plan to eradicate it, because friendship and community is vital to our wellbeing as human beings and especially after being scarred by YWAM, it’s no wonder you would struggle meeting new people.
@@abbytownsend7739 do you mind me asking are you still a Christian? And sometimes I want to go back and do this and I still have a friend that just went to do a DTS. I start questioning maybe it wasn’t so bad and I think about all of the good times but then some where I’m reminded of the frustration I had to deal with and feeling like I lost myself. But you are always told as a Christian to surrender everything to God and whatever I’m just like but before I became a Christian I actually felt like I was myself and had good relationships with others. But I want to talk to a therapist it’s just so hard to find a good one.
@@sidneysmith3426 this is why I always always always recommend secular/non Christian (essentially non-biased) therapy. I did both and Christian counseling was not helpful. It was actually while in Christian Counseling that I realized I wasn’t a Christian anymore. I have found myself and a new surge of confidence without it. Everyone has their own journey and comes to their own conclusions about what is true and what is real and that’s beautiful, but I believe there are so many reasons you are better off without it.
@@abbytownsend7739 yeah I agree I also try to look for non biased understanding. I’ve been back and forth between believing and not believing. But like I said everytime I start to get pulled in to the church again I keep getting a feeling like I don’t want to stay. Recently I watched Midnight Mass on Netflix and I have to say that as weird as it sounds it helped me understand. I recommend you watch it if you haven’t already. But the things presented in that show gave me validation and a feeling that I was okay if I didn’t follow Christianity. I see a lot of things but I always start to feel bad again and remind myself of the miracles that happened when I was “following God” and that I need to be obedient. But that’s also a YWAM thing being “obedient” or God won’t bless you. A lot of Christians say that and that you have to walk in God’s calling and he will provide. I mean maybe but, God is God and I don’t know why there has to be a special case for obedient people. I see obedient poor people who are still poor and still malnourished. It’s a bunch of propaganda
Thank you for speaking out about this, for taking time to do all these videos. Looking at the animals photos though, you realize that animals endure way more unthinkable abuse that people. I’m sure you and your group didn’t rescue even one animal from those photos. The male with the snakes and the monkey, I hope he’s incapacitated to a point that he can never ever abuse any animal no more. It’s heartbreaking to look at that monkey, I so hope that somebody will rescue that innocent creature soon, rehabilitate and give her a good life! 🙏
Time for base leaders to be held accountable.
So sorry you experienced this sort of leadership. There clearly were mistakes made, you clearly were not given space to have your own ideas, your own thoughts. This is very traumatic to experience. This is not at all what good leadership or mentorship is about, it is not a healthy village at all.
All the best as you continue to recover, to grow and learn about life and find your supporting cast back home.
Christian Fundamentalism is the issue.
My issue was the Experience they created, especially around prayer and worship times. They would play emotional moody instrumental music to pull everyone’s emotions during prayer. And you get pulled into a community of immature young people and then after you make friends, you all leave each other. It’s humanly unnatural. I don’t recommend YWAM DTS. Find a level headed dedicated Christian community where you can make functional relationships with healthy trust and zero manipulation and actually base your faith on the Bible instead of emotional Holy Spirit week.