It was down to these two for me, and I chose the Predator. I added the NG/Propane kit from PNG Technologies and a MicroAir EasyStart. Runs my whole house including my 4 ton AC on propane! Great comparison, keep up the good work!
I got duromax 13000 but havnt hooked up yet. U say it runs your house and thats what im wanting but my ranch style house is all electric so my a/c ,furnace,water heater,well,septic system all is electric just wondering if it will run it all. Do u happen to have those things as well? I hope i got a big enough gen for all of it.
@@jd-it4on I have gas furnace, stove & water heater so the 7600 running watt is enough for my situation. The Duromax 13000 is not an inverter generator so it won't produce clean power (THD of 5% or less) which is needed for sensitive electronics like computers, newer refrigerators and TVs.
Just for the record, I just bought the duro max and it now comes with a CO monitor and in my opinion is leaps and bounds a better generator than the predator at the same price. Dual fuel out of the box, full LED display, auto choke, two remote start fobs, no switching between 120/240 like the predator. Just a better all around unit when comparing apples to apples.
Another Awesome video Gavin! It had all of the information I wanted for comparing between these two great generators. Thank you for taking the time to do this video.
So they're essentially straight out of the same factory, with different options on them. Great video, thank you. It's weird, I kinda want the Predator setup with the Duromax control panel really
Like all things, there is a pro and a con to switching from gasoline, to propane. The con being, reduction of power, and the pro is longer run time, AND, longer engine life. I believe the DuroMax generator is available in a model offering more power, while the Predator 9500, is the largest model available from Harbor Freight. There's a company out of Michigan called PNG Technologies that actually makes a gas to propane converter specifically for the Predator 9500. It's not easy to install, but it's well worth the effort, HOWEVER, to switch between gas and propane, you have to remove the front and side covers to switch back and forth between the two fuel sources. Before you buy that conversion kit, make sure your warranty has expired to avoid voiding it out. Another thing, in the owners manual for the Predator, it tells you that you MUST use fuel stabilizer in your gas, or you will void the warranty, with a simple oversight of not reading the manual. I don't know if the DuroMax has the same requirement or not. Long story short, the DuroMax is a bit more expensive, but it is much easier to switch between fuels, and you won't void out your warranty by doing so.
Clear winner Gaven's Garage videos. I'm all in on the Duromax I purchased one from Lowes $2299 when the first came out. Love this Genny it's a beast runs everything I throw at it. It runs my 3 ton AC with a Soft Start already installed. The digital display, Propane, ATS, 3 year warranty and remote start are worth the extra bucks. Thanks again for another great Video from this time inside Gaven's Garage lol
A few additional comparison questions: 1. Fuel tank capacity and run time? 2. For either, are the handles removable so you can mount them on the other side? 3. Noise level with low-idle mode on, vs. off? 4. Any weight difference?
Fuel capacity of 6.7 gallons a run time off around 11 hours at 50% load fuel consumption around .61 gob and a 20 pound propane tank is about 1.04 gallons per hour The handles are removable and I think you should be able to place them on either side Duromax gets up to about 68db off Eco mode Duromax is 237 pounds
Absolutely fantastic video Gavin! I couldn't have done a better review myself! You covered everything! I was about ready to tell a family member to buy the Predator, but the Duromax is a much better choice for his needs. And the 3 year warranty vs 90 days... One question: Did you get any better result with charging the 12V battery with the Predator? It should have jumped up to 13.5+ like the Duromax did, but it barely crept up to 12.8V.
might not be a prob over longs runs, dont want to cook the battery. I just grabbed the Predator on sale. Outside running it in on non-ethanol for a hour of so. Output voltages are AOK, ran a 1500w heat gun no sweat.
Very helpful video thank you, im a predator fan but the 3 year warranty sold me on the DM. Plus the option for propane which ill probably never use but its there. I have the 3500 but HF has really jacked up the prices and over 600 for an extended warranty is crazy for a 2500 dollar generator. Thank you again I enjoy your videos and that coach is lit.
Both good units Gavin. I modified my Predator 9500 to run on Natural Gas so it should never run out of fuel as long as the gas company is supplying gas. It runs my 4 ton soft start 4 stage A/C unit just fine on a 101Deg. day. I lose proably 10-15% power running NG vs Gasoline but it suits my needs just fine.
Right now, today, I could buy the Duromax for $500 LESS, free deliver instead of picking it up, I get remote start & dual fuel AND I can purchase a FOUR YEAR Protection Plan for just $82 !
So the extra ~$600 buys: 1) Significantly better warranty 2) Better control display and more user friendly controls 3) Dual fuel 4) Auto transfer switch control 5) Remote start 6) Regulated battery charging circuit
Excellent video Gavin. Yes. Hey are both excellent units. I prefer the dual fuel capability on the Duramax. Not to say that the Predator can’t be set up to run on propane. It’s a personal decision. I have the Predator 3500 inverter generator,. I’m very happy with it.
⚠️Reminder about generator safety: Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips when you use your portable generator. This is just a reminder to make sure. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully whenever you use your portable generator. 1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards. 2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house. 3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules. 4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords. th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators Hope this helps
I think I get it now. These generators are made at the same place and are identical. It's kind of like buying a GMC or Chevy pickup. They're both the same but have different options. So, if I take off the LPG stuff and the remote start/auto choke from the Duramax, I have a predator with a fancy control panel. Oh, geez. Never mind. I wrote this comment while watching and that's pretty much what you said at the end. Another great video though! BTW: I wonder if you can change the handle location on the Duromax?
Yup you got it. I think they are probably made by the same place in China somewhere. I believe Consumer reports may have covered this a while back. I think.
⚠️Always make sure you follow all the generator safety rules when you use your portable generator: This is just a reminder to make sure. It is important to follow all generator safety rules whenever you use your portable generator. Here are the things that need to be followed; 1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards. 2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house. 3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules. 4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords. th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators Hope this helps
Great video. Im still waiting for a back ordered duramax. It will eventually be connected to a 250 gal house propane tank. Is there a output spec on the propane regulator?
The handle on the Duromax was a problem that I did not like. But, it was easily moved from its original location to the other end by the controls. Just a little time to unbolt and move to other end.
Thank you for your time, solid comparison. I think your opinion is on point. Fortunately and or unfortunately, I just bought a champion 10-8 dual fuel, still in tha box. Currently setting up tha panel backfeed.
I'm just curious why neither has a 50-amp receptacle? I kind of like the Duromax just because of the dual fuel. What if we have another gas shortage? Or you’re at a campground that’s far away from a gas station, many RVs and BBQs run on propane you could borrow from in an emergency? At least it gives you options. Great video. Thanks
Harbor Freight recently raised the price on the Predator to $2199, sometimes you can get it on sale for the original price of $1999, but no cheaper (you used to be able to get it for as low as $1599 with the right inside track deal). Plus you will have to pony up $200 for their warranty. With the price change, it's a better option to go with the Duromax at $2599 and get more info on the control panel and dual-fuel. A DF kit for the Predator can be had for ~$500 aftermarket, but then you are over the Duromax price. Inflation is pushing HF to raise their prices so they aren't as appealing any longer.
So Gavin the difference in running wattage and start up are different on the two, but SAME engine. Is this solely due to the Duro has ability to run on propane therefore that affects performance specs when running gas?
To me, the Duromax is the way to go. The only benefit the Predator has is 500 additional starting watts. That's it. The Duromax beats it everywhere else. If you were to install a propane conversion kit on the Predator, it's wattage would go down as well. I'm interested in emergency power during a power outage. We just lost power for a day and a half during this winter storm and running a generator off of a huge 500 gallon propane tank (as opposed to driving to the gas station and carting stinky gas cans in your car) is soooooo much more convenient. Anyone who's had to 1. go find a gas station still pumping gas during a power outage, try not to get the car smelling like gas, 3. not pour any gas on themselves and 4. actually get the gas in the generator without pouring any on themselves knows how difficult those 4 steps are. Almost certainly, your car, even if it gets only a drop of gas spilled, will smell like gas for a week, you'll pour a few drops (or more) of gas on your hands/wrists/clothes, you'll struggle to get the gas in the generator and you might struggle to actually find a gas station pumping gas. How much simpler to run your generator off of a propane tank and not have to deal with any of that. Duromax all the way!
Boy....it's a close one. I really like the panel on the Duramax with the remote start. Tht would be a great test to run your RV with propane with the Duramax. Great video. Thank you.
Great video, very informative. My question is if you were just using it for your particular house which generator would you buy if you were only running it on gasoline
Great comparison!! Question? I have a electric power pressure with 30amp 230 volts. What inverter generator would you recommend. Or how many watts on generator do I need to operate. Thank you
You’re gonna need at least minimum 9000 starting watts because your pressure washer needs 7200 watts running. So I’m gonna be reviewing I new 9000 W generator the Genmax. So you have choices
Gavin, I just purchased a Predator 9500. The Muffler Exhaust Hood came off the muffler Housing. I have not been able to replace myself due to space constraints (there is no room for my hands to place it back to its correct position. Can I get it back on? I really appreciate any help you can provide.
Great videos Gavin! Keep up the great work. Just purchased the Duromax 9000 and was wondering if I can change the handles to the other side like the Predator? It looks like we should be able to. Can you do a video on this? Thanks as always!
I don’t know much about these big generators. I have the portable Ecoflow Pro 3600, also the Bluetti AC200P, and a number of smaller Ecoflow plus their extra batteries. I need something that can charge the ones I have in case the sun isn’t out to use with my solar panels. Would I be able to just plug my portable generators into either one of these? Is there a smaller user friendly inverter dual fuel generator that you could recommend as well for what I need it for? Would appreciate any advice. Do these use cords for anything?
Yes, you would be able to charge your power stations directly to this generator because the power coming out of it is pure sine wave inverter technology.
Would the Predator start a 3 ton or 2 ton house HVAC? Was thinking of one of these for whole home backup. I realize it couldn't run both AC units at the same time. Being able to run one of the units is better than none.
In short yes, i have the predator and use it as a whole house backup and it can run all my home lights, 3 ceiling fans, my fridge and my 3 ton ac using a MicroAir easy start. All running at the same time without any problems. Hope this helps
@@rgvideos21 ⚠️Reminder about generator safety: Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips when you use your portable generator. This is just a reminder to make sure. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully whenever you use your portable generator. 1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards. 2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide detector if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house. 3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules. 4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords. th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators Hope this helps
Thanks for the information, I live in Puerto Rico and just had Hurricane Fiona pass by and no power here where I live. I will prepare for the next one with this information I will be prepare. Look like the Predator is the one I will purchase. Thanks, again.
Do you have a maintenance video for the duramax? I just purchased one, the xp5500hx, by the way, what did the hx stand for? Anyway, I'm sure it'll come with instructions that are black and white and impossible for anybody that's never had any experience with generators to follow because that's just the way it works with stuff like this. I don't know how to change the oil? At a minimum I need to know how to do that.
I believe the Duromax lists for $2600 and the Predator is $2000. The extra $600 is totally worth it. An extra brake and better handle placement is neglible. The Duromax can use propane which stores forever without going bad and there is the possibility of modifying it to run on natural gas so you could hook it up to your home gas source and never worry about fuel.
I don’t agree that the value is there. You get less surge wattage in favor of a built in propane system, auto choke and remote start. An upgrade kit will cost ya less than $100 to install for propane.
⚠️Reminder about generator safety: Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips when you use your portable generator. This is just a reminder to make sure. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully whenever you use your portable generator. 1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards. 2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house. 3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules. 4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords. th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators Hope this helps
@@mikeerin5031 cheapest conversion kit for the predator I've seen is north of $400. Duromax also comes with a three year warranty whereas the predator comes with a 90 day warranty.
@@tomroth2634 got one on order for $132 after tax. But I put it together myself. It’s not rocket science. I have not seen an NG conversion kit yet for it.
Hello Gavin! Thank you for your videos full of great information! I bought two of the Duromax XP9000ihs and was wanting to know if I need to ground one, both or neither of the units to the earth when I am plugging them into my main panel? I might run one unit or parallel both together which goes to a power inlet box. Thank you again, Mike in DFW
If the portable generator is providing electric power to a structure by connection via a transfer switch to a structure (home, office, shop, trailer, or similar), it must be connected to a grounding electrode system, such as a driven ground rod. If connected to a house via a interlock kit, a generator is grounded by the ground wire in the power cable that runs from the generator to the distribution ...
No you don’t have to ground it. It’s already grounded to the home ground My ground in your generator you gonna create two paths to ground, and that’s not good
Besides Gavin's comment you have to worry about the neutral being BONDED or not if you are connecting to your house panel. Having 2 ground paths (one is required) and/or 2 neutral paths are both bad and not allowed by Nat.Electric Code. Lots of research is needed to partially understand the subject.
Nice comparison. What doesn't make sense to me is the use of 30A 240 plug. That only gets you 7200watts max. A 9000watt surge is over a 30A breaker. Needs to be 50A plug which will go up to 12000w. Technically, would need a parrallel kit just to use surge amount or full load wattage.
How does the DuraMax run on natural gas or can it? PNG Technologies makes a natural gas conversion kit for the Predator 9500, but its about $500 by the time you've got it installed and its not covered under the OEM warranty and there is a large fuel regulator mounted outside the cabinet that is likely to catch on things when moving it around or transporting it. $300 more for the DuraMax for dual fuel its no brainer unless it is only going to be used for job site work. The DuraMax has a lot more features with readouts for load, frequency etc. It looks like the Predator may have had a slight design refresh with better placement for rectifier, dual wheel locks verses one, switched sides for handle position (It might be the DIY could swap the handle sides), while the DuraMax has not had its design refreshed. It might be the DuraMax was an older model and newer models will reflect the same refreshed design seen in the Predator 9500. Both of these generators appear to still have the nearly impossible to open air filter housing that requirers leveraging up the engine on its mounts to get to the bottom clip of the air cleaner lid. It also looks like a small air cleaner subject to quickly clogging if exposed to any dust.
⚠️Reminder about generator safety: Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips when you use your portable generator. This is just a reminder to make sure. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully whenever you use your portable generator. 1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards. 2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house. 3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules. 4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords. th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators Hope this helps
I see the build looks similar which often makes me think they are made by the same company just under different brands. (If they are or not) I am watching because I need a generator that will run the whole house during possible rolling blackouts in SOCAL this summer. My wife is on life sustaining equipment and not to mention it would be a hit and a mess to clean and restock two refrigerator's and soon an extra freezer. Thanks for the content Gavin and God Bless PS: Lets ad the fact that I know nothing of watts, volts and so on. I will look for video's of how to set up my generator to connect for my house and the process of doing so. Thanks Again
I went with the DuroMax. I connected it to the house electric panel (mechanical interlock). I have the battery tender on full-time. I tried starting it with the remote for my weekly run, and it didn't work. Nothing. But it started just fine with the start push button. Do you know if the remote start function "times-out"? If it does, the "remote start" function is useless for me.
The "Start Up" switch has been "On" for 1 week as of today. The remote did not start it. I turned the "Start Up" switch to "Off", then back to "On". The Control Panel did not come on. And the remote did not work either. So, I pushed the Start button. The Control Panel lit up and it started just fine. It appears that I cannot use the remote start function unless I start the inverter more frequently than once a week. Next, I'll try after 6 days - then 5 and so on until I know how often I'll have to start it (so the remote will work in an emergency). If there is no "work-around" or fix for this, I'll have to add this to my Amazon review. Everyone should know about it.
⚠️Reminder about generator safety: Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips when you use your portable generator. This is just a reminder to make sure. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully whenever you use your portable generator. 1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards. 2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house. 3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules. 4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords. th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators Hope this helps
I would really like to see this comparison as well. Harbor Freight advertises some very questionable stats on their equipment. Yes maybe as some split second does it reach 9500 watts but..... how usable is it. Can we throw some meters on both of these to see who is telling the truth. One over stated one under stated?????Thank you. Great vid.
Every generator that is a dual fuel propane vs unleaded gas will be de rated while running on propane,… example I have a 5000watt generator, in fine print it states 4550 watts while using propane….. it gives less horsepower, but while running on propane the motor will run a bit cooler, and without all the carbon and soot buildup that you get from gasoline you will find that the oil stays cleaner when running on propane since it does burn cleaner than gas. The few first oil changes on these I’d do with short intervals anyway just to get the metal shavings worked out since they don’t have oil filters. I have about a dozen generators I use for work and off grid use, I also have this 9500 as well as the predator 3500,…. I have 6200 hours on my 3500, and 1100hours on my 9500 watt predator…. It kept dry, out of the weather and if you keep fresh gas in them, keep the air filter clean and run them at least every few weeks they will all last years.
Can you tell if they have the same brand inverter? They're different obviously since the paralleling is different, but I'm curious if they're two versions from the same inverter manufacturer, or if they're totally different. If one is much higher quality than the other, that might explain the price and warranty difference.
Have you done a fuel consumption on these two generators? Curious to what they’re using at roughly 50% load. Love the previous videos testing them on the RV! Great work thank you.
Will the tri fuel carburetor from the duromax work on the predator? I have the predator and since they look exactly alike I would like to add the dual fuel to my predator. Thank you for your help.
Iam a subsciber of yours for some time now and without your knowledge of these generators i would have been lost i now own the westinghouse 4500 and the generac 3000i thank you so much for educating me for what i did not know
⚠️Reminder about generator safety: Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips when you use your portable generator. This is just a reminder to make sure. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully whenever you use your portable generator. 1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards. 2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house. 3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules. 4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords. th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators Hope this helps
Has anybody noticed that neither generator can output more than 7200 watts on 240 Volt without tripping the 30 amp breaker on the ONLY 240 volt outlet. So you are losing access to the 7500 or 7600 running watts if you connect to your house with 240V; and possibly to most of the extra "starting" watts. The Duromax Parallel kit does have a 240V 50A 14-50R receptacle but would it work with only one generator connected? My current 7500 running watt generator has a 120/240V 50A (14-50R) receptacle so I can get everything into my house (using #6 cable) that the generator outputs; enough to start a 4ton AC. Thank you for your videos.
Another Awesome video Gavin. Thanks for the comparison. I would go with the duramax, I like the dual fuel, Again I’m willing to give away the 500 watts. Because in a electric shortage if the fuel pumps don’t work for lack of electricity, you won’t be able to pump gas and use it. And the dual fuel you got the propane as a back up, plus propane can last a long time in its cylinder. Since I’m a home owner I’ll have to go with the Duramax, and also cause I’m retired so that takes me out of the working man category. Lol 😂😂. I’m interested in the propane test of the Duramax on you motor home to see just how many watts it would use and how much you would have leftover. Thanks again buddy. 👍
@@GeneratorReviews hey Gavin, seems like it’s getting harder to find these inverter generator. They all seem to be out of stock. So how much different is just a regular generator on producing clean electricity? Or should home owners not even consider buying a regular generator, because of smart appliances or computers that need clean electricity. I thought maybe some of your viewer might be interested in knowing about this. Thanks 🙏 buddy.
@@sae1964 Hey Steve I wouldn’t use a modified sine wave or non inverter Generator on any sensitive equipment. Pressure washers, Air-compressors shop tools all these can be ran on a regular open frame Gens because they don’t need clean power. Charging your cell phones, laptops on non-inverter generators can cause them to overheat and while charging you should be cautious when using non-inverter generators to power electronic devices. This is because inverter generators produce reliable, steady electricity without any surges.
@@GeneratorReviews thanks Gavin, I had a friend ask me the difference between them. I knew the inverter generator would produce the clean electricity, but wasn’t sure what the regular generator would do. Thanks 🙏 for the information. I’m gonna be looking for the Duromax inverter 9000, they’re out of stock. But I got 2- champion 4500 inverter generator I parallel to get me the 9000 for now till I find another one. Thanks 🙏
I think it comes down to what type of service you have. A Predator with a PNG natural gas conversion will cost about the same as the Duramax. In my part of the country there’s very little propane except in rural areas. I went with the Predator and added the natural gas kit. It can easily be switched over to propane as well.
You can’t it wouldn’t make sense to parallel them because together you’ll have less power If you parallel the 9000 with a 3500 you’ll end up with 7000 starting watts
I thought all devices were supposed to be disconnected before turning off the generator and reconnected after generator is started. How does the Duromax overcome this when it is remote started?
You overcame that by getting you a surge guard that has a 128 second delay every time it starts it restarts it’s countdown so when your remote shut off your generator it automatically disconnect the load.
Thank you for the comparison. Curious though, gas compared to gas with the same motor, how is the predator claiming to have more power? And yes I'd be interested in seeing the duromax tested on propane. Thanks!
@@mdunbar04 ⚠️Reminder about generator safety: Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips when you use your portable generator. This is just a reminder to make sure. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully whenever you use your portable generator. 1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards. 2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house. 3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules. 4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords. th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators Hope this helps
Does the predator have a 50amp plug? Not round. 3prong and a ground. We have a food trailer and have went through 3 Duramax 13000 way generator s not buying another one
Nice video. Based on the pricing which is considerable. The two units are about equal overall. I can spend about $200.00 to $250.00 and convert the harbor freight to tri-fuel. That's gasoline, propane, and natural gas and still save money. I vote harbor freight.
Thanks for this. Would have loved to see what the actual output max is. I am a huge Predator fan, as a result of this ones "little sister" my 3500W. I have about 1250hrs on it and it runs perfect, burns no oil and starts like a dream. With that, I purchased the 9500W and, while it seems to have all the same benefits of reliability etc, I feel it doesn't really put out 9500W. I use it as backup generator for my off-grid home battery system (Lithium with Sunny Island controllers). The system manage the charge current and will often overload the generator, making it disconnect. It appears to happen around 9000W as far as I can tell. BUT I still love it. I've burned through a generator a year until I landed on the Predator. Had it for 2 winter seasons now without any (other) problem.
Remember that the running watts is only 7600. The surge rating is the 9500 watt number, and that is for just a fraction of a second duration, such as when an electric motor starts. If you're getting 9000 watts out of it for more than a second or 2 before it load sheds, that's pretty good... you're working that machine pretty hard!
Carbon monoxide shut off is good to have but not needed since generators have to be outside and you need to read the manual. My generator says to put it 10 feet away my house with the exhaust pointing away.
Those are some awesome generators. That is all you need for a whole house generator. Just put an interlock kit and a 50 or 60 amp inlet and you are ready to go. You just need to be aware of what you can run without overloading the generator. These are better than whole house standby generator, in the sense that they are inverter generators. They should be safe for electronics. As far as I know... most standby generators are not inverter generators and therefore are not safe for electronics.
If you have a flat battery on the Duromax and need to use the pull cord will it start as surely the choke needs power to activate, just a thought. 👍🏻🇬🇧 nice review.
@@GeneratorReviews, Thanks for the response it’s fairly hypothetical as I don’t think either unit is available here in the U.K. (the generator market is very small here) was posing the question out of curiosity. 👍🏻🇬🇧
@@GeneratorReviews TY, approximately 10% less power I figure. Does 5 gallons of propane run for approximately the same amount of time is 5 gallons of gasoline?
Hey again. Have you done or can you do a propane consumption test on the duromax? I have one of these and so far it's great but between the manual , the website and even a DM from customer support all of the figures are different. I would test it but I don't have them means currently. I can send you the info duromax sent me.
Hello Gavin! Looking for good generator for home use for like power outages. I live in Houston tx. Power outages have been crazy here. Looking something run like my refrigerator, maybe small a/c or heater and maybe t.v and light. I’ve just don’t know what get. Any pointers. Thanks!
Hi Thanks for watching, sounds like you looking for something to run all the essential loads. I would definitely recommend a starting watts of 3500 - 4500. That should be enough power to get you though those power outages. Check out my videos on 4500 th-cam.com/video/rODZcModfOQ/w-d-xo.html
@@GeneratorReviews yes sir. Stuck between westing house and champion. They seem both great. The 4500 watts video I seen on your videos I’m kinda stuck on Westinghouse I just hope it works. Great videos!
@@DjShane1 ⚠️Reminder about generator safety rules: Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips when you use your portable generator. This is just a reminder to make sure. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully whenever you use your portable generator. 1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards. 2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house. 3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules. 4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords. th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators Hope this helps
I just purchased two Predator 9500 generators and would like to connect them in parallel for whole home backup. Harbor Freight doesn't offer a parallel kit yet for this generator. The only parallel kit I can find online that is powerful enough is the Duromax XP9000iH-PK (up to 15,200 running watts). I purchased the kit, but it is missing the 4th wire (white) that the Predator 9500 generator has where the parallel kit connects to the generator. Does anyone know if you need the 4th white wire for the Predators to run properly in parallel? If it does need the white wire, is there any off the shelf parallel kit for the Predator 9500 with all 4 wires, or is there a way to customize the Duromax parallel kit to add a 4th wire? Any help is appreciated!
Great series Gavin. Thanks for your work here. I'm considering one of these along with EU7000 for home back up and tailgate power. As with my other generators and outdoor equipment, I consider things like ease of maint including fuel tank drain, carb cleaning ease, etc. How easy is draining the fuel tank? How about fuel shut off while allowing engine to run the carb dry between uses?
@@rickbraden4272 You can get two of these for about the same price and parallel them to run the whole house no problem. And if you do propane or NG, the carb isn't a factor.
Hi i watch so many of your vids and im wondering if u know if a duromax 13000 will run my house. The house is in the country in a northern state so get cold and some bad winters.anyways the house is a ranch style 2.5 ton ac and eveeyrhing is electric so my furnace ,septic tank,well,water heater all of it electric. Just wondering your thought i have the gen already because power goes out here during winter several times a year and i got tired of running a bunch of extension cords from my 4000what gen in to house and still not being able to run much at all. Hopefully i got a big enough gen because i didnt want to spend 12k on a generac system
Thanks for watching I appreciate your support With a little load management a 13k should be fine especially if you shed some heavier loads You should probably think of installing a manual transfer Switch the would help with the extension cord problem. Good luck👍🏾
@@GeneratorReviews awesome u replied. Yes im going to hook this 1 up the correct way. I was just doing that with the old because it wasnt even close to enough watts to power the house so i never bothered hooking it up. But i just now got the 50amp wire and starting to buy the rest of the stuff. I was wondering what do u do with all these generators after u r done reviewing them? Ever want to sell 1 of those inverter generators to a subscriber? Or maybe a give away?
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It was down to these two for me, and I chose the Predator. I added the NG/Propane kit from PNG Technologies and a MicroAir EasyStart. Runs my whole house including my 4 ton AC on propane! Great comparison, keep up the good work!
Thanks for sharing this with us about your AC I appreciate your feedback
I got duromax 13000 but havnt hooked up yet. U say it runs your house and thats what im wanting but my ranch style house is all electric so my a/c ,furnace,water heater,well,septic system all is electric just wondering if it will run it all. Do u happen to have those things as well? I hope i got a big enough gen for all of it.
@@jd-it4on I have gas furnace, stove & water heater so the 7600 running watt is enough for my situation. The Duromax 13000 is not an inverter generator so it won't produce clean power (THD of 5% or less) which is needed for sensitive electronics like computers, newer refrigerators and TVs.
Awesome info thanks!
Hi, may ask why you chose the Predator over the Duro max? do you think the Predator will be more reliable than the Duro max, thank you in advance.
Just for the record, I just bought the duro max and it now comes with a CO monitor and in my opinion is leaps and bounds a better generator than the predator at the same price. Dual fuel out of the box, full LED display, auto choke, two remote start fobs, no switching between 120/240 like the predator. Just a better all around unit when comparing apples to apples.
Yeah, I already have the one of the co monitor. This was just the older video.
Why do you think it's so much better? I'm not for either one. I have that Predator, because I caught it on sale for $1,100.
Another Awesome video Gavin! It had all of the information I wanted for comparing between these two great generators.
Thank you for taking the time to do this video.
Glad it was helpful!
@@GeneratorReviews another video about predator 9500 generator vs Honda eu7000is th-cam.com/video/ei0Zk9Em_z4/w-d-xo.html
Gavin....I am immensely grateful for the time you have spent creating this video! Thank you so much! You're very generous.
Thanks 🙏🏾
Excellent comparison video. Concise, thorough, and to the point of their features to point out what people may need or prefer. Great work Gavin!
Thanks Bruce
So they're essentially straight out of the same factory, with different options on them. Great video, thank you. It's weird, I kinda want the Predator setup with the Duromax control panel really
Like all things, there is a pro and a con to switching from gasoline, to propane. The con being, reduction of power, and the pro is longer run time, AND, longer engine life. I believe the DuroMax generator is available in a model offering more power, while the Predator 9500, is the largest model available from Harbor Freight. There's a company out of Michigan called PNG Technologies that actually makes a gas to propane converter specifically for the Predator 9500. It's not easy to install, but it's well worth the effort, HOWEVER, to switch between gas and propane, you have to remove the front and side covers to switch back and forth between the two fuel sources. Before you buy that conversion kit, make sure your warranty has expired to avoid voiding it out. Another thing, in the owners manual for the Predator, it tells you that you MUST use fuel stabilizer in your gas, or you will void the warranty, with a simple oversight of not reading the manual. I don't know if the DuroMax has the same requirement or not. Long story short, the DuroMax is a bit more expensive, but it is much easier to switch between fuels, and you won't void out your warranty by doing so.
Clear winner Gaven's Garage videos. I'm all in on the Duromax I purchased one from Lowes $2299 when the first came out. Love this Genny it's a beast runs everything I throw at it. It runs my 3 ton AC with a Soft Start already installed. The digital display, Propane, ATS, 3 year warranty and remote start are worth the extra bucks. Thanks again for another great Video from this time inside Gaven's Garage lol
Thanks for watching 🙏🏾
It’s an awesome Generator
$2299???? They had them that cheap??? Everywhere I see now is $2599 to $2999....
@@kb8978 yep
I went for the Predator $2299 but only had a 90 day warranty so I purchased the extended 3 year warranty for $700
A few additional comparison questions:
1. Fuel tank capacity and run time?
2. For either, are the handles removable so you can mount them on the other side?
3. Noise level with low-idle mode on, vs. off?
4. Any weight difference?
Fuel capacity of 6.7 gallons a run time off around 11 hours at 50% load fuel consumption around .61 gob and a 20 pound propane tank is about 1.04 gallons per hour
The handles are removable and I think you should be able to place them on either side
Duromax gets up to about 68db off Eco mode
Duromax is 237 pounds
Absolutely fantastic video Gavin! I couldn't have done a better review myself! You covered everything! I was about ready to tell a family member to buy the Predator, but the Duromax is a much better choice for his needs. And the 3 year warranty vs 90 days...
One question: Did you get any better result with charging the 12V battery with the Predator? It should have jumped up to 13.5+ like the Duromax did, but it barely crept up to 12.8V.
I made it run afterwards it finally got up after about five minutes of running but not like the Duramax could be the battery
might not be a prob over longs runs, dont want to cook the battery. I just grabbed the Predator on sale. Outside running it in on non-ethanol for a hour of so. Output voltages are AOK, ran a 1500w heat gun no sweat.
Very helpful video thank you, im a predator fan but the 3 year warranty sold me on the DM. Plus the option for propane which ill probably never use but its there. I have the 3500 but HF has really jacked up the prices and over 600 for an extended warranty is crazy for a 2500 dollar generator. Thank you again I enjoy your videos and that coach is lit.
Thanks 😊
Both good units Gavin. I modified my Predator 9500 to run on Natural Gas so it should never run out of fuel as long as the gas company is supplying gas. It runs my 4 ton soft start 4 stage A/C unit just fine on a 101Deg. day. I lose proably 10-15% power running NG vs Gasoline but it suits my needs just fine.
That’s awesome Harry! 👍🏾
Right now, today, I could buy the Duromax for $500 LESS, free deliver instead of picking it up, I get remote start & dual fuel AND I can purchase a FOUR YEAR Protection Plan for just $82 !
So the extra ~$600 buys:
1) Significantly better warranty
2) Better control display and more user friendly controls
3) Dual fuel
4) Auto transfer switch control
5) Remote start
6) Regulated battery charging circuit
Kevin!! You get an A+
Thanks buddy for watching
True.....the Predator is only good for 90 days. Harbor freight really needs to up their game on that.
They want to sell you their warranty
@@badashcoupe1977 True....I'd still go for the Duramax.💪💪
Also a remote start
Excellent video Gavin. Yes. Hey are both excellent units. I prefer the dual fuel capability on the Duramax. Not to say that the Predator can’t be set up to run on propane. It’s a personal decision. I have the Predator 3500 inverter generator,. I’m very happy with it.
Sorry unrelated question. Are you planning on doing anything with the solar panels in the back? Thank you for the informational videos.
⚠️Reminder about generator safety:
Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips when you use your portable generator. This is just a reminder to make sure. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully whenever you use your portable generator.
1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards.
2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules.
4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators
Hope this helps
I think I get it now. These generators are made at the same place and are identical. It's kind of like buying a GMC or Chevy pickup. They're both the same but have different options. So, if I take off the LPG stuff and the remote start/auto choke from the Duramax, I have a predator with a fancy control panel. Oh, geez. Never mind. I wrote this comment while watching and that's pretty much what you said at the end. Another great video though! BTW: I wonder if you can change the handle location on the Duromax?
Yes you can. Just unclamp it and move it to the other side.
Yup you got it. I think they are probably made by the same place in China somewhere. I believe Consumer reports may have covered this a while back. I think.
Duromax also comes with a three year warranty, Predator comes with a 90 day warranty.
⚠️Always make sure you follow all the generator safety rules when you use your portable generator:
This is just a reminder to make sure. It is important to follow all generator safety rules whenever you use your portable generator.
Here are the things that need to be followed;
1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards.
2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules.
4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators
Hope this helps
@@The_Happy_Aviation_Enthusiast Nice advertising.
Great video. Im still waiting for a back ordered duramax. It will eventually be connected to a 250 gal house propane tank. Is there a output spec on the propane regulator?
Thanks for taking the time to do this comparison.
The handle on the Duromax was a problem that I did not like. But, it was easily moved from its original location to the other end by the controls. Just a little time to unbolt and move to other end.
Perfect 👍🏾
Thank you for your time, solid comparison. I think your opinion is on point. Fortunately and or unfortunately, I just bought a champion 10-8 dual fuel, still in tha box. Currently setting up tha panel backfeed.
Gavin what reasonable and practical size propane tank would you recommend with the duomax 9600?
I would get the 40 lbs tank with wheels that’s the recommended size for that size generator 👍🏾
Thanks for watching and subscribing
I'm just curious why neither has a 50-amp receptacle? I kind of like the Duromax just because of the dual fuel. What if we have another gas shortage? Or you’re at a campground that’s far away from a gas station, many RVs and BBQs run on propane you could borrow from in an emergency? At least it gives you options. Great video. Thanks
Thanks Doug thanks for watching
I’m curious myself why don’t they update?
Maybe on the next model
Harbor Freight recently raised the price on the Predator to $2199, sometimes you can get it on sale for the original price of $1999, but no cheaper (you used to be able to get it for as low as $1599 with the right inside track deal). Plus you will have to pony up $200 for their warranty. With the price change, it's a better option to go with the Duromax at $2599 and get more info on the control panel and dual-fuel. A DF kit for the Predator can be had for ~$500 aftermarket, but then you are over the Duromax price. Inflation is pushing HF to raise their prices so they aren't as appealing any longer.
Hi James
Happy new year 🎊
Plus to add to your list harbor freight still have no idea when the parallel kit is coming out for the predator 9500
DuroMax $1,999 on Amazon right now, free shipping!
Good job brother. Currently shoping for a generator, any advice for 2022/23 generators that are worth their money
So Gavin the difference in running wattage and start up are different on the two, but SAME engine. Is this solely due to the Duro has ability to run on propane therefore that affects performance specs when running gas?
I believe so.
Gavin, great job always. I would like to see more propane load tests done on duel fuel models. Thanks
To me, the Duromax is the way to go. The only benefit the Predator has is 500 additional starting watts. That's it. The Duromax beats it everywhere else. If you were to install a propane conversion kit on the Predator, it's wattage would go down as well.
I'm interested in emergency power during a power outage. We just lost power for a day and a half during this winter storm and running a generator off of a huge 500 gallon propane tank (as opposed to driving to the gas station and carting stinky gas cans in your car) is soooooo much more convenient. Anyone who's had to 1. go find a gas station still pumping gas during a power outage, try not to get the car smelling like gas, 3. not pour any gas on themselves and 4. actually get the gas in the generator without pouring any on themselves knows how difficult those 4 steps are. Almost certainly, your car, even if it gets only a drop of gas spilled, will smell like gas for a week, you'll pour a few drops (or more) of gas on your hands/wrists/clothes, you'll struggle to get the gas in the generator and you might struggle to actually find a gas station pumping gas. How much simpler to run your generator off of a propane tank and not have to deal with any of that. Duromax all the way!
Boy....it's a close one. I really like the panel on the Duramax with the remote start. Tht would be a great test to run your RV with propane with the Duramax. Great video. Thank you.
Thanks for watching
Great video, very informative. My question is if you were just using it for your particular house which generator would you buy if you were only running it on gasoline
Oh my gosh I would probably get the Predator
Great comparison!! Question? I have a electric power pressure with 30amp 230 volts. What inverter generator would you recommend. Or how many watts on generator do I need to operate. Thank you
You’re gonna need at least minimum 9000 starting watts because your pressure washer needs 7200 watts running.
So I’m gonna be reviewing I new 9000 W generator the Genmax.
So you have choices
Gavin, I just purchased a Predator 9500. The Muffler Exhaust Hood came off the muffler Housing. I have not been able to replace myself due to space constraints (there is no room for my hands to place it back to its correct position. Can I get it back on? I really appreciate any help you can provide.
You usually have to take off all the plastics in order to work on these generators
Nice comparison. I'd get the DuroMax right now if I could find one. Sold out everywhere.
Thanks for watching
Yep you gotta get it as soon as it’s available I don’t think that will change
Great video! Can that Duromax power you're 5 ton a/c like the predator?
Yes it can
Great videos Gavin! Keep up the great work. Just purchased the Duromax 9000 and was wondering if I can change the handles to the other side like the Predator? It looks like we should be able to. Can you do a video on this? Thanks as always!
Thanks for watching
Yep I will do it 👍🏾
I’ve got the 5000 predator and will upgrade to the 9500 predator version real soon to use on my camper. Thanks for the info.
I don’t know much about these big generators. I have the portable Ecoflow Pro 3600, also the Bluetti AC200P, and a number of smaller Ecoflow plus their extra batteries. I need something that can charge the ones I have in case the sun isn’t out to use with my solar panels. Would I be able to just plug my portable generators into either one of these? Is there a smaller user friendly inverter dual fuel generator that you could recommend as well for what I need it for? Would appreciate any advice. Do these use cords for anything?
Yes, you would be able to charge your power stations directly to this generator because the power coming out of it is pure sine wave inverter technology.
Very helpful in making my decision to get the Duromax. Thanks!
Would the Predator start a 3 ton or 2 ton house HVAC? Was thinking of one of these for whole home backup. I realize it couldn't run both AC units at the same time. Being able to run one of the units is better than none.
I haven’t tested it yet but I plan on doing it soon
In short yes, i have the predator and use it as a whole house backup and it can run all my home lights, 3 ceiling fans, my fridge and my 3 ton ac using a MicroAir easy start. All running at the same time without any problems. Hope this helps
I have the Predator and a MicroAir Easy Start and it runs my 4 ton AC
@@rgvideos21 ⚠️Reminder about generator safety:
Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips when you use your portable generator. This is just a reminder to make sure. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully whenever you use your portable generator.
1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards.
2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide detector if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules.
4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators
Hope this helps
@@The_Happy_Aviation_Enthusiast dude you are freaking annoying. Just post a comment instead of spamming everyone else's please
Thanks for the information, I live in Puerto Rico and just had Hurricane Fiona pass by and no power here where I live. I will prepare for the next one with this information I will be prepare. Look like the Predator is the one I will purchase. Thanks, again.
Thanks Rosado👍🏾
I only use non ethanol fuel in my small engines, you too? I think you get more power from high octane also?
Do you have a maintenance video for the duramax? I just purchased one, the xp5500hx, by the way, what did the hx stand for? Anyway, I'm sure it'll come with instructions that are black and white and impossible for anybody that's never had any experience with generators to follow because that's just the way it works with stuff like this. I don't know how to change the oil? At a minimum I need to know how to do that.
If you lived in Houston, I would tell you drop it by and I will do it for you, but I will work on the video showing all of that😊
@@GeneratorReviews 🥰 I'm in Indiana but I would bring it to you if I were closer 😉 I'll keep an eye out...
I believe the Duromax lists for $2600 and the Predator is $2000. The extra $600 is totally worth it.
An extra brake and better handle placement is neglible. The Duromax can use propane which stores forever without going bad and there is the possibility of modifying it to run on natural gas so you could hook it up to your home gas source and never worry about fuel.
I agree but as for the handle one could swap it a round after all they look the same
I don’t agree that the value is there. You get less surge wattage in favor of a built in propane system, auto choke and remote start. An upgrade kit will cost ya less than $100 to install for propane.
⚠️Reminder about generator safety:
Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips when you use your portable generator. This is just a reminder to make sure. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully whenever you use your portable generator.
1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards.
2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules.
4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators
Hope this helps
@@mikeerin5031 cheapest conversion kit for the predator I've seen is north of $400. Duromax also comes with a three year warranty whereas the predator comes with a 90 day warranty.
@@tomroth2634 got one on order for $132 after tax. But I put it together myself. It’s not rocket science. I have not seen an NG conversion kit yet for it.
Hello Gavin! Thank you for your videos full of great information! I bought two of the Duromax XP9000ihs and was wanting to know if I need to ground one, both or neither of the units to the earth when I am plugging them into my main panel? I might run one unit or parallel both together which goes to a power inlet box. Thank you again, Mike in DFW
If the portable generator is providing electric power to a structure by connection via a transfer switch to a structure (home, office, shop, trailer, or similar), it must be connected to a grounding electrode system, such as a driven ground rod.
If connected to a house via a interlock kit, a generator is grounded by the ground wire in the power cable that runs from the generator to the distribution ...
Thank You very much!
It does seem though that the handles on both the generators can be moved to the opposite side.
How is the availability of parts on predator generators say several years down the road? Do they use common carbs that are readily available?
The engine in both generators parts are widely available most large Gens and pressure washers have the same one.
Just a question. I just bought the 9500 predator one. In instruction booklet it says to ground the system. Do you have to ground it.
No you don’t have to ground it. It’s already grounded to the home ground
My ground in your generator you gonna create two paths to ground, and that’s not good
Besides Gavin's comment you have to worry about the neutral being BONDED or not if you are connecting to your house panel. Having 2 ground paths (one is required) and/or 2 neutral paths are both bad and not allowed by Nat.Electric Code. Lots of research is needed to partially understand the subject.
Nice comparison. What doesn't make sense to me is the use of 30A 240 plug. That only gets you 7200watts max. A 9000watt surge is over a 30A breaker. Needs to be 50A plug which will go up to 12000w. Technically, would need a parrallel kit just to use surge amount or full load wattage.
The breaker won't trip instantaneously.
those ratings are for residential. emergency and hanging wires having different ratings. for example a 30amp generator wire can handle 9000 watts
Question Gavin, do you see anywhere why the difference in wattage??? Curious why the Predator supposedly has more power, when it seems the same.
Every brand choices their Generators output power
How does the DuraMax run on natural gas or can it? PNG Technologies makes a natural gas conversion kit for the Predator 9500, but its about $500 by the time you've got it installed and its not covered under the OEM warranty and there is a large fuel regulator mounted outside the cabinet that is likely to catch on things when moving it around or transporting it. $300 more for the DuraMax for dual fuel its no brainer unless it is only going to be used for job site work. The DuraMax has a lot more features with readouts for load, frequency etc. It looks like the Predator may have had a slight design refresh with better placement for rectifier, dual wheel locks verses one, switched sides for handle position (It might be the DIY could swap the handle sides), while the DuraMax has not had its design refreshed. It might be the DuraMax was an older model and newer models will reflect the same refreshed design seen in the Predator 9500. Both of these generators appear to still have the nearly impossible to open air filter housing that requirers leveraging up the engine on its mounts to get to the bottom clip of the air cleaner lid. It also looks like a small air cleaner subject to quickly clogging if exposed to any dust.
Actually....does the Duramax have the same air filter setup as the Predator? Or is it different? If it does another bad design flaw. Thanks
Have the exact same bad design😕
Great job Gavin! I will choose the Duromax! The warranty and Dual Fuel. Thank you Sir!
One big difference is warranty. Predator standard warranty is 90 day whereas the Duromax is 3 year.
⚠️Reminder about generator safety:
Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips when you use your portable generator. This is just a reminder to make sure. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully whenever you use your portable generator.
1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards.
2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules.
4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators
Hope this helps
I see the build looks similar which often makes me think they are made by the same company just under different brands. (If they are or not)
I am watching because I need a generator that will run the whole house during possible rolling blackouts in SOCAL this summer. My wife is on life sustaining equipment and not to mention it would be a hit and a mess to clean and restock two refrigerator's and soon an extra freezer.
Thanks for the content Gavin and God Bless
PS: Lets ad the fact that I know nothing of watts, volts and so on. I will look for video's of how to set up my generator to connect for my house and the process of doing so. Thanks Again
They look like they are the same units, one or the other is a rebrand? With some differences!
I went with the DuroMax. I connected it to the house electric panel (mechanical interlock). I have the battery tender on full-time. I tried starting it with the remote for my weekly run, and it didn't work. Nothing. But it started just fine with the start push button. Do you know if the remote start function "times-out"? If it does, the "remote start" function is useless for me.
How long did you leave it on for before it timed out?
The "Start Up" switch has been "On" for 1 week as of today. The remote did not start it. I turned the "Start Up" switch to "Off", then back to "On". The Control Panel did not come on. And the remote did not work either. So, I pushed the Start button. The Control Panel lit up and it started just fine.
It appears that I cannot use the remote start function unless I start the inverter more frequently than once a week. Next, I'll try after 6 days - then 5 and so on until I know how often I'll have to start it (so the remote will work in an emergency). If there is no "work-around" or fix for this, I'll have to add this to my Amazon review. Everyone should know about it.
After seeing your videos I went with the DuroMax 9000. Thank you so much for your videos.
It would be interesting to see if there is really a surge capacity difference between the two machines. I bet there isn't.
⚠️Reminder about generator safety:
Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips when you use your portable generator. This is just a reminder to make sure. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully whenever you use your portable generator.
1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards.
2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules.
4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators
Hope this helps
I would really like to see this comparison as well. Harbor Freight advertises some very questionable stats on their equipment. Yes maybe as some split second does it reach 9500 watts but..... how usable is it. Can we throw some meters on both of these to see who is telling the truth. One over stated one under stated?????Thank you. Great vid.
@@sony1998 the inverter electronics are better on the preditor that is why
Every generator that is a dual fuel propane vs unleaded gas will be de rated while running on propane,… example I have a 5000watt generator, in fine print it states 4550 watts while using propane….. it gives less horsepower, but while running on propane the motor will run a bit cooler, and without all the carbon and soot buildup that you get from gasoline you will find that the oil stays cleaner when running on propane since it does burn cleaner than gas. The few first oil changes on these I’d do with short intervals anyway just to get the metal shavings worked out since they don’t have oil filters. I have about a dozen generators I use for work and off grid use, I also have this 9500 as well as the predator 3500,…. I have 6200 hours on my 3500, and 1100hours on my 9500 watt predator…. It kept dry, out of the weather and if you keep fresh gas in them, keep the air filter clean and run them at least every few weeks they will all last years.
Can you tell if they have the same brand inverter? They're different obviously since the paralleling is different, but I'm curious if they're two versions from the same inverter manufacturer, or if they're totally different. If one is much higher quality than the other, that might explain the price and warranty difference.
I will look it up and let you know 👍🏾
Have you done a fuel consumption on these two generators? Curious to what they’re using at roughly 50% load. Love the previous videos testing them on the RV! Great work thank you.
That’s an excellent idea! thanks for the ideas keep em coming
Are the 12V outputs live on either unit? By that, I mean could I plug a battery tender into them instead of putting a pigtail on the battery itself?
After testing the predator it’s 12 V plug is not live but the Duramax comes with a charging port and the 120 V adapter to charge the battery
Thanks for the info. Really enjoy the videos.
Will the tri fuel carburetor from the duromax work on the predator? I have the predator and since they look exactly alike I would like to add the dual fuel to my predator. Thank you for your help.
They make a duel fuel kit for your predator so yes it can be converted.
Iam a subsciber of yours for some time now and without your knowledge of these generators i would have been lost i now own the westinghouse 4500 and the generac 3000i thank you so much for educating me for what i did not know
Thanks for the Subscribe
And thanks for watching
Appreciate this video my friend!!
Super grateful!!!!
⚠️Reminder about generator safety:
Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips when you use your portable generator. This is just a reminder to make sure. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully whenever you use your portable generator.
1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards.
2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules.
4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators
Hope this helps
Has anybody noticed that neither generator can output more than 7200 watts on 240 Volt without tripping the 30 amp breaker on the ONLY 240 volt outlet. So you are losing access to the 7500 or 7600 running watts if you connect to your house with 240V; and possibly to most of the extra "starting" watts. The Duromax Parallel kit does have a 240V 50A 14-50R receptacle but would it work with only one generator connected? My current 7500 running watt generator has a 120/240V 50A (14-50R) receptacle so I can get everything into my house (using #6 cable) that the generator outputs; enough to start a 4ton AC.
Thank you for your videos.
Another Awesome video Gavin. Thanks for the comparison. I would go with the duramax, I like the dual fuel, Again I’m willing to give away the 500 watts. Because in a electric shortage if the fuel pumps don’t work for lack of electricity, you won’t be able to pump gas and use it. And the dual fuel you got the propane as a back up, plus propane can last a long time in its cylinder. Since I’m a home owner I’ll have to go with the Duramax, and also cause I’m retired so that takes me out of the working man category. Lol 😂😂. I’m interested in the propane test of the Duramax on you motor home to see just how many watts it would use and how much you would have leftover. Thanks again buddy. 👍
Thanks Steve
@@GeneratorReviews hey Gavin, seems like it’s getting harder to find these inverter generator. They all seem to be out of stock. So how much different is just a regular generator on producing clean electricity? Or should home owners not even consider buying a regular generator, because of smart appliances or computers that need clean electricity. I thought maybe some of your viewer might be interested in knowing about this. Thanks 🙏 buddy.
@@sae1964 Hey Steve I wouldn’t use a modified sine wave or non inverter Generator on any sensitive equipment. Pressure washers, Air-compressors shop tools all these can be ran on a regular open frame Gens because they don’t need clean power.
Charging your cell phones, laptops on non-inverter generators can cause them to overheat and while charging you should be cautious when using non-inverter generators to power electronic devices. This is because inverter generators produce reliable, steady electricity without any surges.
@@GeneratorReviews thanks Gavin, I had a friend ask me the difference between them. I knew the inverter generator would produce the clean electricity, but wasn’t sure what the regular generator would do. Thanks 🙏 for the information. I’m gonna be looking for the Duromax inverter 9000, they’re out of stock. But I got 2- champion 4500 inverter generator I parallel to get me the 9000 for now till I find another one. Thanks 🙏
@@sae1964 Anytime 👍🏾
I think it comes down to what type of service you have. A Predator with a PNG natural gas conversion will cost about the same as the Duramax. In my part of the country there’s very little propane except in rural areas. I went with the Predator and added the natural gas kit. It can easily be switched over to propane as well.
Agreed!👌🏾👍🏾
Which kit did you go with? Thanks
After watching your video I decided to purchase the Duromax. It will be here in a few weeks. Thanks for a great comparison video.
Nice!!
Can you parallel this generator with a smaller one. Maybe a 9000 and a 3500 together and if so how does the 120/240 work out?
You can’t it wouldn’t make sense to parallel them because together you’ll have less power
If you parallel the 9000 with a 3500 you’ll end up with 7000 starting watts
The frames look so similar, I wonder if it's possible to switch the handle on the Duromax to the other side?
Also, is the Duromax air filter as difficult to access as the Predator? Do they both have the same evap equipment?
Yep Unfortunately they both have the exact same air filter system and the exact same evap equipment.
Is the duromax an inverter? If yes, why is that not emphasized?
Yes! All pure sine waves are inverter Generator
I thought all devices were supposed to be disconnected before turning off the generator and reconnected after generator is started. How does the Duromax overcome this when it is remote started?
You overcame that by getting you a surge guard that has a 128 second delay every time it starts it restarts it’s countdown so when your remote shut off your generator it automatically disconnect the load.
Great question Brent
do you get an ng kit with the Duromax XP9000IH ?
Ng kit?
@@GeneratorReviews natural gas
No just gas and propane
Thank you for the comparison. Curious though, gas compared to gas with the same motor, how is the predator claiming to have more power? And yes I'd be interested in seeing the duromax tested on propane. Thanks!
Great point!
Is 1 over rated or is 1 underrated. Same Engine
@@mdunbar04 ⚠️Reminder about generator safety:
Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips when you use your portable generator. This is just a reminder to make sure. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully whenever you use your portable generator.
1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards.
2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules.
4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators
Hope this helps
@@mdunbar04 the preditor has a better more efficient inverter system
Possibly could be a slightly different inverter unit.
Does the predator have a 50amp plug? Not round. 3prong and a ground. We have a food trailer and have went through 3 Duramax 13000 way generator s not buying another one
It has the 30amp 4 pin twist lock
Will a power conditioner, like Panamax interface between the non-inverter generator and sensitive electronics and be able to clean the signal?
No a power conditioner can’t output pure sine wave from a modified sine wave
I just ordered a Duromax. Going to run it on propane in my food truck. Excited. Moving up from a Onan 5500 Gold.
Nice!!! Congratulations on your upgrade
Nice video. Based on the pricing which is considerable. The two units are about equal overall. I can spend about $200.00 to $250.00 and convert the harbor freight to tri-fuel. That's gasoline, propane, and natural gas and still save money. I vote harbor freight.
Yep the tri fuel option is nice to have👍🏾
What would you use for the conversion? DIY or a specific kit? The kits I'm finding are more like $350 (PNGtec).
@@timm439 Try looking up US Carburetoration. 1-800-553-5608. Now with inflation I really don't know if the pricing went up.
Thanks for this. Would have loved to see what the actual output max is.
I am a huge Predator fan, as a result of this ones "little sister" my 3500W. I have about 1250hrs on it and it runs perfect, burns no oil and starts like a dream. With that, I purchased the 9500W and, while it seems to have all the same benefits of reliability etc, I feel it doesn't really put out 9500W. I use it as backup generator for my off-grid home battery system (Lithium with Sunny Island controllers). The system manage the charge current and will often overload the generator, making it disconnect. It appears to happen around 9000W as far as I can tell. BUT I still love it. I've burned through a generator a year until I landed on the Predator. Had it for 2 winter seasons now without any (other) problem.
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Remember that the running watts is only 7600. The surge rating is the 9500 watt number, and that is for just a fraction of a second duration, such as when an electric motor starts. If you're getting 9000 watts out of it for more than a second or 2 before it load sheds, that's pretty good... you're working that machine pretty hard!
Do you think there is an actual difference in starting watts?
I think the only difference in starting watts is when running it on propane.
Carbon monoxide shut off is good to have but not needed since generators have to be outside and you need to read the manual. My generator says to put it 10 feet away my house with the exhaust pointing away.
Those are some awesome generators. That is all you need for a whole house generator. Just put an interlock kit and a 50 or 60 amp inlet and you are ready to go. You just need to be aware of what you can run without overloading the generator. These are better than whole house standby generator, in the sense that they are inverter generators. They should be safe for electronics. As far as I know... most standby generators are not inverter generators and therefore are not safe for electronics.
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If you have a flat battery on the Duromax and need to use the pull cord will it start as surely the choke needs power to activate, just a thought. 👍🏻🇬🇧 nice review.
You can manually control the choke by removing the side cover.
@@GeneratorReviews, Thanks for the response it’s fairly hypothetical as I don’t think either unit is available here in the U.K. (the generator market is very small here) was posing the question out of curiosity. 👍🏻🇬🇧
@@AJ-qn6gd Thanks for watching I appreciate you watching from the UK👍🏾
Great job as usual but can you do a test on a generator running the heat in the house not just the AC
Thanks for this review. It was very helpful for us. We are going with the blue one. The 9000.
Hi n thanks. Does the propane run quieter and cleaner?
It’s cleaner than gas but has less power
@@GeneratorReviews TY, approximately 10% less power I figure. Does 5 gallons of propane run for approximately the same amount of time is 5 gallons of gasoline?
Why do you think the Duramax has more charge power for the battery ?
The battery was probably lower and required more power from the rectifier. It just depends on the battery state of charge.
Hey again. Have you done or can you do a propane consumption test on the duromax? I have one of these and so far it's great but between the manual , the website and even a DM from customer support all of the figures are different. I would test it but I don't have them means currently. I can send you the info duromax sent me.
I can do those test in a power outage situation and record it for you but yes, you can email me the info they sent you👍🏾
Looked up the manual for the duromax it says it does have carbon monoxide shutoff?
Yes! The second generation the newest ones does
Hello Gavin! Looking for good generator for home use for like power outages. I live in Houston tx. Power outages have been crazy here. Looking something run like my refrigerator, maybe small a/c or heater and maybe t.v and light. I’ve just don’t know what get. Any pointers. Thanks!
You think igen 4500 work?
Westinghouse
Hi
Thanks for watching, sounds like you looking for something to run all the essential loads. I would definitely recommend a starting watts of 3500 - 4500. That should be enough power to get you though those power outages.
Check out my videos on 4500
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@@GeneratorReviews yes sir. Stuck between westing house and champion. They seem both great. The 4500 watts video I seen on your videos I’m kinda stuck on Westinghouse I just hope it works. Great videos!
@@DjShane1 ⚠️Reminder about generator safety rules:
Please don’t forget to follow the generator safety tips when you use your portable generator. This is just a reminder to make sure. All generator safety rules need to be followed carefully whenever you use your portable generator.
1) KEEPING OTHERS SAFE: Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate and service the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards.
2) WHERE TO RUN YOUR GENERATOR: Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3)🔥FIRE HAZARDS: Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules.
4) GENERATOR OPERATION: make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
th-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/w-d-xo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators
Hope this helps
Will it run the Duramax that is a 220 dryer without overloading and overheating
Yes that shouldn’t be any problem for this generator
Are they both "inverter" generators (pure sine wave)?
Yes they’re both inverter and pure sine wave
I just purchased two Predator 9500 generators and would like to connect them in parallel for whole home backup. Harbor Freight doesn't offer a parallel kit yet for this generator. The only parallel kit I can find online that is powerful enough is the Duromax XP9000iH-PK (up to 15,200 running watts). I purchased the kit, but it is missing the 4th wire (white) that the Predator 9500 generator has where the parallel kit connects to the generator. Does anyone know if you need the 4th white wire for the Predators to run properly in parallel? If it does need the white wire, is there any off the shelf parallel kit for the Predator 9500 with all 4 wires, or is there a way to customize the Duromax parallel kit to add a 4th wire? Any help is appreciated!
I would advise that you wait for Predator to release your parallel kit that’s a lot of power
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I chose the DuroMax for me. mainly because Harbor Freight was two months out or more to get one.
Great series Gavin. Thanks for your work here. I'm considering one of these along with EU7000 for home back up and tailgate power. As with my other generators and outdoor equipment, I consider things like ease of maint including fuel tank drain, carb cleaning ease, etc. How easy is draining the fuel tank? How about fuel shut off while allowing engine to run the carb dry between uses?
The Honda will be running 20 years from now. I doubt a Chinese brand will. Just sayin.
The eu7000i is only choice with fuel injection. The carburated gens are susceptible to clogged jets etc just when you need it.
@@rickbraden4272 You can get two of these for about the same price and parallel them to run the whole house no problem. And if you do propane or NG, the carb isn't a factor.
@@rebellucy5610 you might want to look at where the duromax is made before you spout nonsense
@@carlacton3584 "she's" not called "rebel lucy" for nothin'!
Hi i watch so many of your vids and im wondering if u know if a duromax 13000 will run my house. The house is in the country in a northern state so get cold and some bad winters.anyways the house is a ranch style 2.5 ton ac and eveeyrhing is electric so my furnace ,septic tank,well,water heater all of it electric. Just wondering your thought i have the gen already because power goes out here during winter several times a year and i got tired of running a bunch of extension cords from my 4000what gen in to house and still not being able to run much at all. Hopefully i got a big enough gen because i didnt want to spend 12k on a generac system
Thanks for watching I appreciate your support
With a little load management a 13k should be fine especially if you shed some heavier loads
You should probably think of installing a manual transfer Switch the would help with the extension cord problem.
Good luck👍🏾
@@GeneratorReviews awesome u replied. Yes im going to hook this 1 up the correct way. I was just doing that with the old because it wasnt even close to enough watts to power the house so i never bothered hooking it up. But i just now got the 50amp wire and starting to buy the rest of the stuff. I was wondering what do u do with all these generators after u r done reviewing them? Ever want to sell 1 of those inverter generators to a subscriber? Or maybe a give away?
@@jd-it4onOnce I’ve gone through every video I can do with a generator l’ll sell it.
Once I get enough subscribers I’ll do a giveaway👍🏾
Is the DUROMAX XP9000IH really shorter? It looks like the same height.
They have the exact same frame and the parts are interchangeable with each other. Size wise
@@GeneratorReviews The specs lied to us all. Thanks for responding.
Can you please create a video on how to properly drain fuel from a generator such as this one for storage?
Yes I will definitely make that video
Is it possible to switch handle sides? Looks like it might be.
Yes I think it is possible